Motley Fool Money - Goldman Sachs Kicks Off Earnings Season

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

Motley Fool contributors Jon Quast, Rachel Warren, and Jason Hall discuss financial news that investors should know about. On today’s show, this includes recent financial results from investing bank... Goldman Sachs as well as the U.S. blockade in the Strait of Hormuz. Finally, the team ends the show with a question from a listener regarding SpaceX’s upcoming IPO.Jon Quast, Rachel Warren, and Jason Hall discuss:-Goldman Sach’s Q1 2026 financial report-Economic trends to watch during earnings season-The impacts from new U.S. blockades-A listener question about SpaceX and major stock indicesCompanies discussed: Goldman Sachs (GS), JPMorgan Chase (JPM), Bank of America (BAC), Cheniere Energy (LNG), S&P Global (SPGI), Nasdaq (NDAQ) Host: Jon QuastGuests: Jason Hall, Rachel WarrenEngineer: Bart Shannon Disclosure: Advertisements are sponsored content and provided for informational purposes only. The Motley Fool and its affiliates (collectively, “TMF”) do not endorse, recommend, or verify the accuracy or completeness of the statements made within advertisements. TMF is not involved in the offer, sale, or solicitation of any securities advertised herein and makes no representations regarding the suitability, or risks associated with any investment opportunity presented. Investors should conduct their own due diligence and consult with legal, tax, and financial advisors before making any investment decisions. TMF assumes no responsibility for any losses or damages arising from this advertisement.We’re committed to transparency: All personal opinions in advertisements from Fools are their own. The product advertised in this episode was loaned to TMF and was returned after a test period or the product advertised in this episode was purchased by TMF. Advertiser has paid for the sponsorship of this episode.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's the start of earnings season and Goldman Sachs is kicking us off. You're listening to Motley Fool Money. Welcome to Motley Fool Money with the Hidden Gems team. I'm John Quas and I'm joined today by full contributors Rachel Warren and special guest, Jason Hall today. Thank you all for being with us. Look, we're going to get right to our first story here and that is that Investment Bank, Goldman Sachs just reported financial results. And I just want to, for context, put out there that
Starting point is 00:00:43 every three months, publicly traded companies report their financial results to investors. And usually these reports are concentrated all kind of in a few weeks of a time span. And so that's what we call earnings season. It's not required, but it just kind of how it happens. And there's always banking companies that kick us off. And investment bank Goldman Sachs is really kind of the first one. out of the gate with first quarter of 2026 results here this morning. Rachel, let's talk about the numbers. What are just a couple of numbers here that investors should be interested in? Yeah, I would say it was a pretty strong start to earnings season.
Starting point is 00:01:21 So Goldman Sachs reported Q1 in net revenues of $17.2 billion. And that was up 14% year over year. It was better than what Wall Street had been guiding for. Earnings came in about $5.6 billion. So the big takeaway, I think, for investors is really how much they earned per share. $17.55. That beat Wall Street's expected $16.49. It's also helped push their return on equity to 19.8%. So the business is being run very efficiently right now. One other number that stuck out to me, Goldman's asset and wealth management unit brought in $4.08 billion this quarter. That was a
Starting point is 00:01:57 solid 10% increase from last year. It missed Wall Street's targets slightly. And basically, what this means is they earned more in management fees because the total assets they over saw grew, but those gains were dragged down by a dip in revenue from their private banking business. Some other things that were in the Goldman Sachs report here, and I want to turn this to Jason, so I did notice that fixed income, currencies, commodities, or FICC revenue, that was actually down 10%. But then on the other side, we see that equities revenue is up 27%. And so for a person such as myself, maybe somebody out there listening who doesn't really follow banks all that much, doesn't really follow Goldman Sachs all that much, seeing one part of the person,
Starting point is 00:02:36 the business up, one part down. Are there any high-level takeaways that we can have there and anything that we should know about the economy from that? So first with Goldman specifically, it's different than Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, a lot of these other banks. Now, JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America have huge investment banks, but they're part of their universal bank profile where they also have the commercial bank, which is like, that's what we is like just regular humans think of as a bank. Like it's where we keep our money. It's where we write checks or pay our debit from. It's where we go to get loans, that kind of thing. Investment banking is a different animal, right? So they do lots of things. And like the thing you
Starting point is 00:03:13 were talking about with FICC and then with equities that we'll talk about too, this is trading, basically. And Goldman has a big role as a market maker for, and that's the intermediation part of the business for trading, you know, fixed income assets like bonds, currency trading, commodities, like oil and gas futures, you know, that kind of thing. And then we'll talk about it, Two, they have an equities business. So equity of stocks, right? So they're the market maker for a lot of this. And then they also provide a lot of the liquidity, and it's the financing part of that.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And if we go back to the first quarter, two things were true. Stock markets were at all-time highs. And then we got extreme volatility at the end with the U.S. war in Iran. Now, for Goldman, bull markets and volatility are really good for the equity business. As we got to the end of the quarter, and again, we go from record highs, markets active, lots of trading volume, that's good. And then the end of the quarter, you're going to see lots and lots of their clients
Starting point is 00:04:08 are repositioning their portfolios, like hedge fund clients and different investment managers like that. And also lots of volatility with oil. So they're trading deaths for commodities. All the commodities that we're going to talk about that go through the Strait of Hormuz, lots of action happened there, but still ended up with like the commodities bucket.
Starting point is 00:04:26 You know, again, FICC broadly is a lot of other things. So you think about the weakness in like the mortgage business, uncertainty with interest rates. Not that long ago, you know, the betting money was on a couple of interest rate cuts this year. Now we're saying the Fed might be raising rates. So if there's any one real takeaway, there's not like a clean, obvious takeaway. It's just a reminder that nothing is working perfectly all the time. All right. So as we go ahead and start closing out this discussion of Goldman Sachs, I just want to frame this in the context of the kickoff of earning season.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Is there anything that you saw here in this report that you think will be a theme in the upcoming earning season? Rachel, let's start with you. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a few kind of key big picture themes from Goldman's management that might echo across the street this month. I think that starts with the resurgence of the capital markets. I mean, CEO David Solomon has very specifically highlighted the firm's leading role in what we're seeing as a very cyclical rebound for advisory and equity underwriting. You've got a very high profile IPO pipeline. You've got names like SpaceX and Open AI that I think are capturing a lot of investor interests right now. And so I do think there's sort of a clear message coming through, which is that this very long-awaited return to normal for global dealmaking is seemingly upon us that could provide a massive tailwind for firms with heavy investment-making exposure, of course, like Goldman Sachs.
Starting point is 00:05:48 But, you know, there's a lot of headwinds in the market right now. So I think we will know a lot more as we get later into the year. Jason, how about you? So I mentioned that Goldman's, it's not like the commercial banks or universal banks out there. And in a lot of ways, that makes its relationships because it tends to be more concentrated in its customers, even more important. So I expect that we're going to hear David Solomon and his team, they're really going to lean on those deep relationships with its clients.
Starting point is 00:06:12 The track record of results that it's delivered backs up the depth of those relationships. And it's precisely for the kinds of uncertainty that we're navigating right now. And, I mean, it's broad, whether it's things like acting as a market maker, helping finance trading activity across any assets, assisting with mergers and acquisitions, wealth management. And like Rachel was talking about, helping finance and deliver on those big IPOs. This is a business that has the resources to deliver for its clients on whatever its client's goals are. Now, one more thing I want to note. It's not like its other, the commercial banks, but it has a growing loan book.
Starting point is 00:06:48 and it's worth noting that Goldman did increase its credit loss provisions. I think that's probably more due to the growth of the loan book than any concerns about credit quality, but it's very much worth watching broadly as we start hearing from the Wells and the B of A's and the JPMorgan Chase is out there. What is credit quality looking like? That's a thing that can give us an idea how the consumer's doing. Okay, well, we'll definitely keep an eye on that then as the other banks start reporting in upcoming weeks. After the break, we're going to look at some of the latest developments in the straight of her moves. You're listening to Motley Fool Money. The Madamy Holmes Bike for Brain Health supporting Baycrest returns on May 31st for its fifth
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Starting point is 00:08:13 Nothing really came of it. And now we're hearing that the U.S. intends to block Iranian ports in the Strait of Hermuz. And by the time you're listening to this, it may have already started. Aside from the obvious instability of the region, there are real world economic impacts here. And I think if I'm listening to the show, I just want to know what is the immediate impact of this decision from the U.S.? What can I expect? Rachel, let's start with you. Yeah, I think there's a few things to be thinking about here.
Starting point is 00:08:40 The U.S. Navy is enforcing this blockade as of this morning. There seems to be a particular enforcement mechanism in place for ships that have reportedly paid tolls previously to Iran. It kind of remains to be seen what that looks like in practice. Grech Crude and WTI had already surged past $100 a barrel. You've got analysts at firms like Onyx Capital Group wording. We can see it go up to $150 if this standoff continues. And, you know, it's worth noting this isn't really just a paper price hike. It effectively wipes out nearly 1.8 million barrels of daily Iranian supply from a market that's already reeling from a regional shortfall
Starting point is 00:09:13 that's estimated around 11 million barrels. The other thing I think that's important to note, the Persian Gulf is a primary hub for nitrogen-based fertilizers. And that blockade has already caused prices of elements like urea and ammonia to jump by as much as 50%. Well, why does that matter? Urea and ammonia are the lifeblood of modern farming. So they're primary ingredients in nitrogen-based fertilizers. Without them, crop yields can drop significantly. That's why we're seeing some grocery supply emergencies.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And when the strait of Hormuz is blocked, the flow of these chemicals stops. And then the cost of growing everything from corn to wheat spikes almost instantly. That's sort of the long-term view of what we could continue to see if this blockade. lasts. Yeah, we think about the Middle East, we think about oil. And to lesser extent, we think about natural gas. We think about transportation fuels, electricity production, heating and that sort of thing. But what we don't often think about just as regular people on the street is the massive infrastructure in petrochemical manufacturing that's happened in those markets. So instead of just shipping oil somewhere else, and then that place gets to make value-added, higher margin
Starting point is 00:10:16 products, there's a massive amount of that that now takes place in the Middle East. And that's exactly what Rachel's talking about. So it extends even beyond that. And I want to talk about some of those opportunities. You know, there is a real human toll that's happening here. And we're not ignoring that. I think I want to really be clear about that for people listening. But this is a show about investing. And we're kind of focusing on the investing aspect of it here. So at the risk of sounding like a heartless capitalist, if we do see the straight remain limited in flow, because that's another important part of this. The U.S. Navy is not blockading the straight. They're blockating Iranian ports to be very specific about what's happening. So if we do see a limited
Starting point is 00:10:55 flow continue for an extended period, companies like Schneer Energy could be beneficiaries, other LNG exporters in North America and also places like Australia that have large natural gas resources. You know, Rachel, you were naming off a lot of those feedstocks. And here's the thing, the reality is that prices are likely to be higher for those goods. Global shipping markets will adapt to where the supply is located. And that means that, That could be beneficial for companies like Sheneer and others. Now, the other thing, too, I think maybe one of the long-tail impacts is we could see domestic energy costs start to move higher if we do see more natural gas leave the U.S.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Because generally, it's just like a locally traded commodity that the price goes up and down based on weather. Like when it's really cold, the prices go up, when it's really hot, the prices go up because the energy demands. But we're starting to see like the fingers of macro-global policy start to affect gas prices. And so what we're talking about right now is kind of the immediate impact of what this decision from the U.S. could mean. But let's extend our time horizon just a bit because we are a long-term investing group and we want to have that long-term perspective always. So let's just extend the timeline here.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I mean, what happens if this continues to drag on or what is going to happen now that the decision is made? I think if it drags on, I mean, the immediate risk is that you see sort of this temporary crisis become a permanent. part of our cost of living. And I mean, some of these cost inputs, even if it were all to reverse now, we might be seeing through the end of this year. But you kind of think of the global economy like a massive just in time conveyor belt. So when the Strait of Hormuz, which is obviously a literal choke point for this, is facing blockades, you know, more specifically in the Iranian ports, that belt stops. So shipping companies are forced to take the long way around the tip of Africa. That adds weeks to travel time. There's obviously massive fuel costs. And those, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:43 billions and extra expenses don't just disappear. They inevitably often get passed down to consumers in the price of cars, computers, household appliances. The list goes on. So over time, there could be this situation where we are stopping talking about a price spike and more about a global manufacturing stall where, you know, factories might struggle to get the raw materials they need when they need them. I think that still remains to be seen. John, there's so much of the focus right now is on what happens in weeks to months out. But I think we're already in a situation where global commodities flows are going to be disrupted to some degree for years. There are reports of significant infrastructure damage. King Qatar,
Starting point is 00:13:21 for example, and in parts of Iran and Qatar that are kind of across some of the same areas. And we're a point now with we could see an escalation of military action again. And if that happens, those hard assets that produce store and move energy out of this part of the world, they took decades to build. It could take years and billions of dollars to repair them. So that ties a lot to what Rachel was saying, but I think the thing that I'm really most interested about as an investor looking out in the future is there are always, I mean, the law of unintended consequences is a real thing. So I'm really curious, what is the thing that happens as a result of this war that none of us predicted or even really expected? My deepest hope, guys, is that it's something disruptive and
Starting point is 00:14:08 positive for humanity. Yeah, it reminds me of Morgan Housel. The future is surprising. And I think that There's a lot of things that we're just not thinking of today, and that's just how it works. After the break, we are getting to our mailbag. You're listening to Motley Full Money. This episode is brought to you by Tell Us Online Security. Oh, tax season is the worst. You mean hack season? Sorry, what? Yeah, cybercriminals love tax forms.
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Starting point is 00:15:02 And so if you have a stock or an investing question for Jason, Rachel, myself, or anyone else on the show, you can email us at podcast at fool.com. And we would love to have mailback segments like this whenever possible. so send in your questions. Remember to keep them foolish, please. But that email again is podcast at fool.com. Podcasts at fool.com. And on that note, we are closing today's show with a question from you, our listeners. This one comes from Garrett Campbell. He writes, Hello, I've heard that the S&P 500 is considering a rule change to allow Space X to join without meeting the traditional requirements. I'm not knowledgeable on the IPO, process and how shares become public and who owns shares. Can you discuss the pros and cons with
Starting point is 00:15:52 granting an exception and allowing SpaceX to join the S&P 500 once it's public? Thank you, Garrett. And so there's actually a couple of things here in Garrett's question. First, I thought that maybe we would just speak quickly to the IPO process, Garrett saying doesn't really know how the rules work here. So Jason, can just walk us through the IPO process and talk about basically whose shares investors are buying when it comes public? John, asking me to discuss anything quickly is a challenge in and of itself, but I'll do my best here. So the IPO process, you know, a company and its investment bank partners, they go around and meet with potential IPO investors and underwriters. This is the institutions that are actually
Starting point is 00:16:31 buying the shares in the IPO. So, you know, you hear they're going to set a price. And then that IPO price is the price that those buyers and the underwriters are paying. In general, when a company IPOs, the company is going to issue new shares for the IPO. So they're diluting the internal investors. They're creating these new shares that the IPO investors, the underwriters buy, minus a fee, of course, to the banking partners. So the company gets the proceeds. This isn't always the case. And the company we're talking about that are looking to go public now, that would be the case. They would be getting the proceeds. But it's not always the case. Sometimes we see a company that's part of a private equity business that gets IPOed. A lot of times when that company
Starting point is 00:17:12 the proceeds, they go to the PE firm. The PE firm is selling part of its stake. So the company doesn't get any additional liquidity. It's just going public, right? So that's an important thing to remember. Sometimes you also have some insiders when a company IPOs that are also selling into the IPO. It's not always generally the case, but sometimes that's part of it. Usually you see insiders that have a lockup period that they can't actually sell for months, months and months after the fact. So that's roughly the way it works. Now here's the thing. That's who's buying the as retail investors, we're not buying from the company. When the stock debuts on the market and starts trading on the NASDAQ and the New York Stock Exchange, we're buying shares from those
Starting point is 00:17:52 underwriters, right? We're buying from the people that bought the IPO. Yeah, and I think that's such an important clarification there, Jason, that the IPO shares have already been sold at whatever the IPO price was. And then when we see that big pop on the initial trading, that's because some of those people who did buy are selling right then and there to the people who are now retail investors on the market. Well, let's get to the main part now of Garrett's question. Basically, the rumor is that the S&P 500 considering tweaking the rules for SpaceX, and I just want to point out here before we go any further, this is unconfirmed. And so this is just kind of conjecture. It's a rumor at this point. So we don't want to treat it as if this is gospel truth at this point.
Starting point is 00:18:34 But I do want to speak to the question. Basically, Rachel, if the indexes are actually thinking of changing the rules here to include SpaceX stock early, which rules do they have to change here for this to happen? Yeah. So the reporting is that the S&P 500 would change its rules for SpaceX. This is an active proposal reportedly. It's not a done deal. Right now, a company has to be public for a full year, show four straight quarters of profit before it could even be considered for the index. And SpaceX, the IPO is expected to be historical, massive. And so reportedly, that's the reason that S&P Dow Jones indices is officially asking investors if they should ditch that one year, a seasoning period, if you will, for giant companies.
Starting point is 00:19:15 And reporting is that they want the index to reflect the actual market immediately rather than waiting until 2027, presuming the IPO occurs this year, to include what would be expected to be one of the world's most valuable firms. Now, it's actually interesting because NASDAQ actually just approved a new fast entry rule starting May 1st of this year. It allows a mega company to join. the NASDAQ 100 just 15 days after its IPO. So if we saw the S&P Dow Jones indices follow suit, it would be a big shift in how they've operated for decades. And I think the goal is to make sure
Starting point is 00:19:47 billions of dollars that would be sitting in passive index funds can start buying the stock right away. But we will have to see how this bears out. Okay. So hypothetically, let's say that S&P global did change the rules here. Is there any benefit here, Jason, for the market for investors? Yeah, Rachel, I actually agree on the downside, so I'm going to let her take that. But I do think there is some upside. There's a couple parts of it. First of all, I think it's more that the indices are starting to acknowledge the need to at least consider evolving with how the market for IPOs has changed. We're going to see more and more companies.
Starting point is 00:20:23 We've already seen it happen where companies are staying private much longer. That means they're getting much larger. That means they're getting more stable. And I think that means that if we see a company go public that would normally be, would qualify for the S&P, right, large enough, but also four straight quarters of profitability and a clear path of remaining profitable, then it does make sense for it to get included a little bit earlier. Now, what about the like the NASDAQ 100 thing?
Starting point is 00:20:51 That wasn't the question, but I'm going to answer it anyway. I do think that there's maybe reason to be a little more leery about that because there's no requirements around profitability for NASDAQ 100 companies. So if you have a giant AI startup like Anthropic that's still burning lots of money, go public and get pulled in, there is certainly more risk for investors in that sort of situation. But that's another show. Like I said,
Starting point is 00:21:16 our listener wasn't asking about that one. Well, I mean, are you basically saying it might make a major index more volatile? Yeah, I think so. And it's the NASDAQ 100 is already more volatile. So, oh, hey, let's throw an open AI in there too. What do you say? Oh, and SpaceX.
Starting point is 00:21:31 So let's throw about, I don't know, $2.5 trillion worth of market cap. That could certainly be interesting. But Rachel, you're the one who's going to talk to the downside here. So what would be the downside of changing the rules? Yeah, I'm coming in with the negative angle here. Look, I do think that there are some downsides to consider. I think the biggest one is that changing these rules does create the risk of market distortion. You know, historically speaking, that one-year waiting period, it acts as a cooling off phase, right?
Starting point is 00:21:56 allows the market to find a stable price for a new stock after that initial IPO hype fades. Certainly, that has been a trend we've seen with a lot of these fake tech companies that have gone public. By waiving this rule, index providers would very likely force tens of billions of dollars in passive funds to buy SpaceX shares almost immediately. That could create a massive, potentially artificial surge in demand that could leave the stock at an unsustainable nosebleed valuation. that could also provide guaranteed high price exits for early insiders, and everyday retail investors could be more vulnerable if the price were to then have an inevitable crash once that initial buying frenzy ends. Obviously, that's sort of the worst case scenario there, but I do think
Starting point is 00:22:38 it's important to consider and be aware of both sides of this equation if, in fact, we do see those rules change. I think for now it's more of a weight in seeking. Yeah, I think that's right. I'll just add one thing here, just as a food for thought. Let's say SpaceX goes public so large, that it's 5% of the S&P 500. Let's say that happens. And it falls by 50% in the first year. That's only a 2.5% haircut for investors in those indices. It's not nothing, but it's also not the end of the world.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Well, either way, we are going to look forward to the SpaceX IPO with great anticipation. Garrett, thank you so much for the question. And to the fools out there listening, we hope that you get more questions like that in in future episodes. That's all we have time for today. As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about, and the Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against. So don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. All personal finance content follows Motleyful editorial standards and is not approved by advertisers.
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