Motley Fool Money - Motley Fool Money: 07.08.2011
Episode Date: July 8, 2011Stocks fall on a bad jobs report. Warren Buffett bets on the U.S. economy. Target brings home the groceries. Facebook launches video chat. And Hulu entertains suitors. Our analysts discuss thos...e stories and share some stocks on their radar. Plus, CNBC anchor Carl Quintanilla talks about the business of BMW and shares his ultimate driving experience. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to Motley Fool Money.
Thanks for being here.
I'm your host, Chris Hill, and joining me in studio this week for Motley Fool Hidden Gems,
Charlie Travers from a million-dollar portfolio, Ron Gross,
and back from France from Motley Fool Hidden Gems, Seth Jason.
Welcome back.
I'm from France now.
Bonjour.
So to heck with the rest of you.
Oh, ha, ha, ha.
We've got the latest retail numbers.
We've got the growing battle between Google and Facebook.
And we've got CNBC's Carl Kintania with an inside look at the world of BMW.
Plus, as always, an inside look at the stocks on our radar.
But, guys, we will begin with the big macro.
The jobs report for June is in, and the numbers are not pretty.
Just 18,000 net new jobs added.
Unemployment is now up to 9.2%.
Charlie, earlier in the week,
We were talking on our daily podcast about Warren Buffett, how he went on CNBC, and among the things
he said on CNBC, was that he has a bet with Peter Orsag, the economist and former budget
director at the White House, about where unemployment is going to be in a year. And Buffett said,
he thinks he's betting that it's going to be under 8%. And I backed him. You backed him. Do you want
to revisit that bet right now? At first, I... Be bold, Charlie. I know. No, I'm actually going to
stand on Warren's side and not bet against him because after looking into the numbers, which
look bad on the surface, they're actually not that bad.
Really? Yeah. I need more than a headline? They seem pretty bad. What a world.
Right. So the headline number is 18,000 non-farm payroll increase, which is the week
is since September, and unemployment at 9.2% is a six-month high. So why am I saying things
are not that bad? Well, if you look into what's going on, the private sector is actually up
57,000 when the government was down 39,000. So the companies we know and love are still doing fine.
It's your state and local governments that are laying people off left and right.
Ron? So the problem with Warren's prediction, though, and of course he may be right, is that you
need to add 125,000 to 150,000 jobs each month just to absorb the new entrance to the workforce.
And that's so that's to keep everything static, flat. So we're going to need to go significantly
more than that to get unemployment down to Warren's goal.
And Charlie's goal.
And our economy is not that robust at the moment.
So we've got a ways to go.
Right.
So he's actually more aggressive than 8% next year.
He said 6% a few years out.
So he's very, very bullish on the U.S. economy.
And I think, you know, the data kind of backs them up.
Year over year, the private sector's added a million point seven jobs, and it's only
because of the government shedding $600,000, that things look weak.
So if things turn around and stick with what the private sector is doing, he's going to come
out right once again.
Finally, on the other side of that coin is a lot of the strength was in motor vehicle production.
I don't know if that's necessarily sustainable going forward.
We're going to have to look elsewhere to make up for that because I don't think that continues.
So, again, we have ways to go here.
We can always count on you to just bring your pessimism.
You want realism?
What do you want?
So what is, as an investor, what is the big question that you have about jobs looking out for the next year?
The biggest question I have, I mean, it's going to all be based on, are companies willing to spend the money that they do have?
Companies not only have a ton of cash in the bank, but they're quite profitable.
Are they going to be willing to loosen the purse strings and increase their employment roles?
And what's going on with entrepreneurship in this country are the incentives?
incentives there to create new companies and hire and grow business.
Seth, what about you?
It all goes back to confidence.
If consumers aren't out there buying stuff, then none of this happens.
And so a lot of this at this point is a psychological game because you get a virtuous cycle when consumers feel
more confident.
We're going to talk about some of those numbers in a second.
But I think one of the things Warren Buffett is doing knowing that the press is watching
them is trying to project some confidence and help out.
Guys, things are looking a little brighter.
Retail industry, this week, Target, Costco, and limited brands all posted monthly results that beat Wall Street estimates.
Luxury retailers like Nordstrom and Sacks also posting some strong results.
Seth, even the Gap had a good month.
What's going on in retail?
What's a good month for the Gap?
I think anything in positive territory is a good thing.
The Gap.
You know, the Gap was pretty much giving stuff away from what I read.
And that is actually the case at a lot of retailers, a lot of struggling retailers.
So the question is going to be, can they make decent profits on what they sold later?
But what is interesting about this report to me is that in the past few months,
we've seen a situation where only the luxury stores have been doing well
and the lower price stores haven't been doing so well.
And we've got, you know, a little bit better performance across the lower range.
So Target doing well again.
And some of this, JCPenney, which we've talked about a bit recent,
not doing so well.
So they really better hope that whole hiring the guy from Apple thing works out for them.
But this is a pretty, this is a decent report.
It's not what I expected.
It's much better than I expected.
And let's hope that that continues.
Seth, how do you reconcile weak economy, high unemployment with strong consumer sales?
People just love to buy stuff.
Fair enough.
Do you have a favorite retail stock in this industry, Ron?
I'm assuming it's Costco.
Yes, it is.
Am I that transparent?
Your love for Costco and CEO Jim Sinigal is that transverse.
One of the finest run companies in the United States of America with one of the best business models.
We've all seen the Sinigal tattoo on his hip.
I kind of like Target right now.
You get a P.E. a 12 with a 2.5% dividend, and it's a very well-run company.
They said that groceries are their strongest category.
I mean, is that really the way that Target is going to succeed in the future by really blowing out the grocery?
I believe it. I gave it a test drive in the past week, and I just happened to be in there to pick up some, you know, normal household stuff and just grab my groceries while I was there, and they actually had most of what I needed.
Sense? I'm keeping mine a secret until stocks on the radar.
All right. Well, we'll stay tuned for that. Guys, this week, Facebook announced it is integrating Skype video chat into its social network, enabling users to chat one-on-one with their Facebook friends. Ron, you're on Facebook? How excited are you? How excited are you? I don't know.
I think it's a good ad up for Facebook.
I don't think you'll see me Skyping personally any time in the future.
I sure hope not.
I think the interesting thing here is Google is the enemy of both Microsoft and Facebook.
And humankind.
And so the teaming up of Microsoft and Facebook, and remember Microsoft does own a small stake is really an intent.
And pending approval, they own Skype.
And they end in an $8.5 billion acquisition.
So it's really them teaming up to go after the enemy.
And I think that makes sense.
In a bigger picture, it's really interesting to see 15, 20 years from now
what all this video chatting does to the typical public telephone network
and where that goes.
That'll be very interesting to watch.
And it will take that long because the bandwidth needs are huge
and they're not being met yet.
Guys, also in the last couple of weeks,
we've seen Google launch Google Plus,
which is their latest attempt at social networking.
They're basically trying to redo what Facebook has done, but do it in a better way.
How do you think that battle shakes out?
Certainly one of our colleagues here at the Motleyville, Joe Mager, is one of the early people on Google Plus.
He loves it.
He's been raving about it.
But how do you think that battle shakes out?
Seth?
Not very well for Google, I don't think.
Because if it's popular, Facebook can replicate it inside of, you know, a month.
And it all gets back to user base.
The reason Facebook is a power is that it kind of lucked out and then rolled up this huge user base and you sort of have to be there now.
Google Plus, you know, there's 200 some million Gmail users.
Those people aren't visiting that for a social networking experience.
Whereas Facebook has this 750 million member base.
Now they've got Skype integrated and, you know, they're close partners with Microsoft and Hotmail has some 300, 400 million users or something.
There's some overlap in there, but that is a huge audience, and that is a huge barrier to Google trying to make headway in this space.
Ron?
People are raving about the Google Plus interface.
Who's raving about this?
I hear that people, I hear that people say people are raving.
It's much easier to use.
It's much more intuitive.
And so Facebook, I think, over time, needs to improve that because some of it can be kind of cumbersome.
It's kind of the same as it was in the beginning.
And if they can just improve it a little bit, it kind of takes.
the sale out of Google Plus. What is one product that Facebook needs to launch or should launch
in the next couple of years that's really going to help them drive revenue? Charlie? I would like
them to continue the efforts in the video streaming area. And with, you know, in kind of my world and
my hobbies is streaming UFC fights for free before the pay-per-view starts later. You know,
they've got this captive audience willing to tell them what kind of content they're interested in. And I
I think that's an untapped market for them.
Ron?
If they could move into e-commerce in any kind of meaningful way,
you know, 750 million users are there already.
And if you didn't have to leave Facebook in order to go to Amazon or wherever you go to do some shopping,
that could be, you know, tremendous.
Because it's so cumbersome to click over from Facebook to Amazon.
Seth, what do you think?
I'm with Charlie, but I think that the killer app for Facebook is something probably nobody here has imagined
and probably nobody at Facebook has imagined.
Oh, oh, okay.
I thought there was a big reveal coming.
I thought it was going to be like...
No confusion by Facebook.
I'm saying that if it were that easy to think of, it would be thought of already.
Coming up, Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are all bidding for Hulu, but which one needs it the most?
Stay right here. This is Motley Full Money.
Welcome back to Motley Full Money.
Chris Hill here in the studio with Charlie Travers, Ron Gross, and Seth Jason as we hit some of the big headlines of the week.
Disney CEO.
Bob Eiger said that he and the other owners of the online video site, Hulu, are committed to selling it.
The other owners include News Corp and ComcastCorp's NBC Universal.
Seth, Jason, among the potential buyers, you've got Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, and a rumored price tag of around $2 billion.
So who are you betting on?
It makes the most sense for Microsoft, really, because Microsoft is already one of the heavy Hulu users via the Xbox.
360 where I get Hulu.
And I'm going to also mention quickly that I'm in Hulu Plus.
I happen for a while and the library has recently gotten much, much, much better.
And so I think this is actually a good property for one of them to pick up.
To me, it makes the most sense for Microsoft,
especially given the tie-in with Facebook and the possibility of streaming that way
and getting information that way.
One of the alleged competitive advantages of Netflix has always been how much they know about
users. I think if Microsoft talks to Facebook, they'll know a lot more about what users are interested
in watching than Netflix ever did. Ron? Google has YouTube. I think if they get Hulu also, they
kind of try to lock up this end of the market, and I think that's what they're interested in doing.
But do you think Google needs it in the way that maybe, it sounds a little bit, Seth, like Microsoft
might need this more than Google does? I don't know if any of them need it so much. I don't think
Google is actually interested.
Google, remember Google TV,
the whole idea of Google TV was to avoid
having to pay for something like Hulu.
What they tried to do with Google TV
was to stream onto people's televisions
the otherwise free internet
video that cable and TV
providers were providing on the internet.
They all locked them out. I don't think
that any of the people in that industry
want to do a deal with Google because Google
has really tried to game
the system in the past, and I don't think I trust Google.
In March, Amazon,
launched its own App Store. Apple filed a lawsuit against Amazon saying that the term infringes
on its own App Store. This week, a federal judge denied Apple's request for an injunction
to stop Amazon from using the term. Ron, I'm not a lawyer, but this really doesn't seem like
it was a tough decision. Yeah, I don't think the judge had too much trouble figuring this one out.
What she said was that Apple really failed to convince that the App Store name would confuse
customers. It didn't infringe on Apple and that it didn't dilute Apple's brand.
I got to say, it looks like they pretty clearly ripped it off, to be honest.
I mean, it doesn't confuse anybody, and nobody's going to mistake Apple for Amazon.
But they did call it App Store with a double P, and they just took out the space.
Yeah, they're not dumb.
Right.
I got to say, I'm liking this judge who, in her decision, kind of twisted the knife in Apple a little bit,
and I'm quoting from the decision here.
Apple did have substantially exclusive use of the term App Store when it launched its service a little over three years ago,
but the term appears to have been more widely used by other companies as time has passed.
That's really kind of sticking the knife in there and twisting a little bit.
Basically, it's just saying you could have protected you if you wanted to, you dropped the ball.
Deal with it.
Now you've got something called Kleenex.
Just call it I App Store and get over yourself.
If I was Apple, I think I'd launch an e-book reader called the Kindle and like spelled with a cue.
Take that Bezos.
The World Series of Poker is kicking off in Las Vegas.
and this week, win resorts accepted wagers on the World Series of poker,
making it the first time a Vegas casino is taking bets on a non-sporting event.
Charlie, you're the best poker player in the room.
What do you think of this?
It's pretty interesting.
At casinos around the world, you can bet on things from, like, the events of political outcomes to the weather.
Nevada is much more tightly regulated on what it'll allow people to bet on in a casino.
They want to avoid events with predictable outcomes or places.
where individuals can influence the outcomes such as in a poker tournament,
because if the stakes got high enough, you could imagine a case where the participants might throw the tourney.
No.
Yeah. Has that ever happened?
No.
You know, Black Sox-type scandals and the like.
But this is pretty interesting, and it could open the door to betting in Vegas casinos on other types of events.
How much do you think, assuming it goes that route, how much do you think this could positively impact the bottom-line?
of wind resorts and other casino stocks?
I think it could very well have a material impact on the number of visitors who come and stay at the
resorts.
They were talking, and it didn't go through this year, but one casino that was unnamed tried to get
betting opened up on last season's American Idol, and they expect, you know, that come next
Oscar season, that would be one type of event that you could come gamble on.
And as somebody who's had Oscar parties where we do gamble on the Oscars, I would be kind
of interested in that. Ron, have you ever bet on a non-sporting event like golf?
I'm still reeling over the use of the word tourney.
Why? It's a word? I know it's a word. It's just he's so in that world that he just
shortens up that word tournament. Bang, Torny. You don't want to play poker against Charlie.
No, I know. I'm saying. Seth, what do you think? I'm not playing poker with Charlie.
Even if you win, you lose, he can kill you. Look at him. He's a lot bigger than I am.
And finally, it was nearly 20 years ago that Sony unveiled the mini-due.
disc player, which was supposed to be the next big thing after the Walkman. But on Friday, Sony announced
it is killing the mini-disc player. And before you panic, though, Sony will still continue to produce
the actual mini-discs. Not exactly sure why. But let's bring in our man Steve Royto because Steve,
you actually have a mini-disc player, don't you? I do too. We do. Yeah, we used to do recordings
back in the day on minidisc, portable minidisc, yeah. How emotional is this announcement to you?
You know, we don't use it much anymore. So it's not terribly.
emotional, but it's nice to know that they are still supporting the media, even though you may say,
oh, if no one's buying them, but I guarantee you there's people that still use those things.
So it sounds like you're just pushing your sadness way down inside. It sounds like you're
blocking. Exactly. Something like that. They were good little recorders. They were cheap. I mean,
you could afford one as a student, as a journalism student. That's what I got mine for.
Getting the sound out was kind of a pain, and it was soon surpassed by MP3 type recorders. But
for five years or so that it was it was the best thing you could get do you have a favorite obsolete technology
charlie i as a gamer i am partial to the original nintendo entertainment system you know you got
mike tyson's punch out castlvania it's good stuff caslvania oh yeah what is castle
it's like this uh game where you go through like this romanian castle and you go fight a vampire at the
end wow set do you have a favorite obsolete technology i do you can still get it it's
using the old view camera, the old, you know, the four by five view camera with the sort of accordion
side and you put the black blanket over your head to focus. You take pictures on a big negative.
I've still got my view camera. You can still get all the stuff. There was just kind of...
But I can't get one at Target. You can't get one at Target. And digital photography is so good now
that that's all I use and it's just preferable in so many ways. But sometimes I just miss
working with that really old, really poisonous medium.
All right, Seth Jason, Ron Gross, Charlie Travers, guys. We'll see you later in the show.
Hey, on next week's show, we're going to be dipping into the Fool mailbag. So drop us a note, Radio at Fool.com.
Tell us your favorite obsolete technology.
Hey, tell us about a technology you think is going to be obsolete.
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Up next, Carl Kintanilla from CNBC takes us inside the world of BMW.
Stay right here.
This is Motley Fool Money.
Welcome back to Motley Full Money.
I'm Chris Hill.
Carl Kentini is one of the hosts of CNBC Squawk Box,
and he's the host of a new CNBC documentary, BMW,
a driving obsession.
It premieres on Wednesday, July 13th, at 9 p.m. Eastern,
and he joins me now.
Carl, welcome back.
Always good to talk to you, Chris.
The last time you and I talked,
you had just finished a documentary on the garbage industry.
Was doing this documentary on BMW, a wave,
for your bosses at CNBC to make it up to you for having to pick through landfills in Asia?
They definitely owed me one, and this was definitely the currency that I had in mind.
Yeah, you're right.
On the trash thing, we were in Beijing for days, sorting through these illegal dumps,
100% humidity, 100 degrees.
this was in a very dry, mild Munich climate on the out of bond, taking a Z4 to 240 kilometers an hour.
So yeah, I mean, I think we're probably back to neutral after trash.
This got me back to neutral.
Now, I want to get into some of the things in the documentary in just a second.
But first, the Wall Street Journal reported this week that luxury car sales surge.
in the first half of 2011, and leading the way is BMW.
What is fueling their growth?
Well, I think, I mean, look, one of the realities of the recovery,
whether you like it or not, has been the resurgence,
and in some ways you could argue that they never went away,
just in terms of luxury, the high-end consumer around the world.
those with money came out of this crisis in virtually as stronger position and in some cases
better.
Now, you could argue they might have lost some money here or there in stocks or what have you,
but on a net basis, this has not hurt the rich around the world.
You couple that with growth in China and the increase in income there, and it's right into
BMW sweet spot.
They have made a choice that they are not going to try to be.
a mass market car maker. They are going to stick with premium, and that's the BMW line. It's
many. It's Rolls-Royce. They're three big brands. And as a result, they are in the sweet spot.
It's a fascinating thing to watch. Now, one of the things that you do in this documentary is you
take viewers inside the tech center. What is it like inside BMW's research facility?
Well, it's huge for one thing. That's the thing that's 80 acres. That holds a lot of engineers and designers. It's highly secretive. It looks nondescript from the outside, but in order to get in, I always tell people, remember the opening sequence to get smart?
Sure.
When Don Adams has to go through the multiple, he goes in the telephone booth, and then there's doors, and it's just like that. A series of concentric circles of security.
that they amazingly let our cameras in.
When we walked in with our cameras,
heads turned like,
how in the world did you get in here?
Who is that guy?
Yeah, because we don't let press in here.
And then you have, in this very,
almost church-like environment,
these designers working on Max,
drawing, illustrating,
molding clay, models of cars,
and just engineering the head.
hell out of these BMWs that you and I will maybe one day drive in three or four years.
They're kind of, in their own German way, kind of mad, I think, in a mad scientist kind of way,
because they will take something, an element of a car, and engineer it and try to perfect it
until you think, until it's almost reached the level of absurdity.
That's how thorough and scientific they are.
You're listening to Motley Full Money?
I guess is Carl Kintania, host of the new CNBC documentary, BMW, A Driving Obsession.
One of the things that comes across in the documentary is BMW's obsession, you know, with every detail, as you said,
sort of testing things to the end degree, including sounds, every possible sound combination for inside the car.
What is that process like?
Yeah, we interviewed these sound designers who basically they engineer the sounds that, you know,
you and I would hear if we say we don't buckle our seatbelt and take off, right?
Or if there's an engine light that goes off, it's accompanied by a little doot, right?
Well, that sound, that doot is worked on and refined by a guy somewhere who has to sculpt it, I guess.
He compares it to working on a tiny jewel, making sure each cut is clear and distinct.
So he will listen to that millisecond of sound 2,000 times in a day.
And then again the next day, before they decide, okay, this matches the character of the car.
So a mini sound in a mini is kind of playful and whimsical,
whereas a Rolls-Royce beep might be very elegant and classical and lush.
Our question was, why?
Why spend the money?
Why spend the time?
their argument is it's those intangibles that create the emotional connection between the consumer and the product.
And I guess their judgment is better than ours because their sales figures don't lie.
We were talking earlier about the global sales of BMW.
They've obviously seen growth in China, but in percentage terms, the luxury market in China is very small.
I think a lot of companies would settle for a small percentage of the market in China.
But how much potential is there for BMW when it comes to China?
Well, it depends on what your thesis is about China.
I mean, if you believe that wealth is going to continue to grow in that country,
you look at the number of millionaires and billionaires that they're mincing every day,
not to mention the 2,000 cars that are added to the road in Beijing every day,
there's a lot of fuel there to work with if you're a car maker.
They have obviously a lot of domestic competition.
Chinese are trying to make cars as well.
But for BMW's purposes, it's about staying number one in premium.
So they're worried mostly about Audi and they're worried about Mercedes-Benz.
But if you're in China and your income is growing and you have aspirations to elevate your lifestyle,
your standard of living, chances are, you know, okay.
you may not be in the market for a Rolls-Royce,
but it's highly likely that you might spring for a three series or a seven series.
And that small, marginal number of additional cars is all BMW needs to put up a good percentage growth number.
You mentioned Audi and Mercedes.
What is the primary way that BMW differentiates itself from those two companies?
I think BMW's take would be you love.
driving the sheer experience of driving, you like when you turn a corner, having the car and the
steering wheel kind of grapple with the road and feeling that in your forearm and your elbow,
that's our car. You want a passive driving experience where the road is smooth and just comfortable.
Maybe you do want it in infinity, or maybe you want an Audi, although they hate, they,
The relationship with Audi is not healthy at all, and they don't like to talk about Audi.
So they want someone who either really loves driving or who wants to look like he really loves driving.
And I think there's a high percentage of consumers who buy a BMW who buy it because, hey, I drive a beamer.
And what that says about you is important to them.
You're listening to Motley Full Money?
My guest is Carl Cantania, host of the new CNBC documentary, BMW, A Driving Observer.
session. What surprised you the most when you were working on this documentary?
I think, well, what surprised me the most would be the difference in between German and
American culture, business culture. You know, we do a lot of documentaries here at CNBC. We have
not done a true profile, hour-long profile of a non-American company. We've done Coke, McDonald's,
GM, Ford. It's different over there. I mean, if you spend more than three or four days,
In a German corporate headquarter building, it is the way they do business is different.
The relationships between executives are different.
There's not a lot of back-slapping office chatter.
They are serious.
I would argue their sense of humor maybe is kept in check.
I think that part of that goes to German culture in general, but they are, I don't want to call them obsessive,
but it is, there's not a lot of joking around.
And I think you come from America, and especially at some of the big companies here,
there's more of a buddy system at work within the ranks.
I think they view Americans a little cynically.
You know, they know we're an important market,
but I think they think of us a lot of times as driver, at least in the car market,
as drivers who want, you know, we're more interested in,
cup holders than rear wheel drive suspension.
So, and that explains a lot of what sells in this country, right?
I mean, BMW is a niche market in the U.S., because most of us, you know, we'll drive our tourists.
It gets us to working back.
What was the strangest thing you observed when you were working on this documentary?
And it could be anything.
It could be a test.
It could be something about the corporate culture.
A couple different things.
they put a car in a wind tunnel that blows snow.
They used to take their cars to Sweden and test in frigid weather up there,
but they will blow snow on it at high speed, high wind speeds for an hour,
and then they will measure the thickness of snow buildup on certain parts of the rearview mirror
or the grill to make sure that the intake gets enough oxygen,
doesn't suffocate the engine.
That was a little strange, I mean, I guess somewhere there must be an engineer who says
that's important, but it looked a little excessive to us.
Watching some of the designers draw by hand, and we actually pulled a couple aside, and I would
say, draw me a kidney grill right now, the classic BMW kidney grill we all see in our
rearview mirror.
And it just sort of bled out of his hand.
He put the paper down, and it's as if he was drawing.
It's the way you and I would draw a stick figure.
It happened in five seconds.
And I think that's when I knew that the repetition of what they do enhances their skill.
I mean, this guy knew how to draw a car, and then from that, he can envision what tomorrow's car might look like.
That was amazing.
You're listening to Motley Full Money?
Our guest is Carl Kintini, a host of the new CNBC documentary,
BMW, a driving obsession.
Carl, before we wrap up with a round of buy-seller, hold, BMW's tagline is the ultimate
driving experience.
So I have to ask, what has been your ultimate driving experience?
Driven of Rolls-Royce.
So even though it wasn't the most fun I've ever had in a car, driving a half-million-dollar car,
especially in England, where the steering wheel is on the right,
was a little intimidating.
I kept thinking, and the roads there are like cow paths, so narrow.
And I kept thinking, if I clip a mirror on this car, I'm dead.
I'm done.
And it's a very heavy driving experience.
It's a V-12 engine.
I mean, you feel like you're driving a U-boat on the ground.
But a really nice U-boat.
Yes.
Yes.
And I just remember thinking,
this is a car I think I'd rather be driven around in than driving myself. But it was something not a lot of people get to do.
And your worst driving experience? That would be my daily commute in Manhattan.
I think a lot of our listeners probably can identify with that. All right, time to wrap up with a round of buy, seller, hold. Let's start with something that is a skill that not every driver has.
Buy seller hold driving stick instead of automatic. Oh, stick.
definite long-term buy, buy, buy, by, by, as Kramer would say.
These are personal statements that probably do not help with resale value.
Buy-seller-hold bumper stickers.
Oh, I'm short. I'm definitely short bumper stickers.
Why anyone would deface their car like that? I've never understood.
A bunch of internet companies have IPOed this year, and this music service is one of them.
Buy, seller-hold, the business of Pandora.
I am a huge. I always think of all the things coming to market, it's the one IPO company to whom I've personally cut a check.
So when people ask how do they monetize their clicks, I am a victim. I love Pandora.
And finally, the creator of this Emmy-nominated Children's Television series said he was trying to capture the feeling of shows like those produced by Sid and Marty Croft.
So buy seller hold the staying power of Yo Gabba Gabba.
Since I watch an average of half an hour of Yo Gabba Gabba per day
because of my twin two-year-olds,
I not only am I going to buy Gabba, I'm going to buy more on margin.
Wow, wow, you're going to just lever up on Yo Gabba Gabba.
I'm going 40 to 1. I'm going Lehman-style crazy on Gabba.
You can catch him on Squawk Box every weekday morning on CNBC.
The new CNBC documentary is BMW, A Driving Obsession.
It premieres on Wednesday, July 13th at 9 p.m. Eastern.
So catch it, set your DVRs.
Carl Kentonilla, thanks so much for being here.
Always fun, Chris.
Coming up, we'll give you an inside look at the stocks on our radar.
This is Motley Fool Money.
As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about,
and the Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against,
So don't buy ourselves stocks based solely on what you're here.
I'm Chris Hill, and joining me in the studio once again, Seth, Jason, Charlie Travers, and Ron Gross.
Guys, it is that time once again to talk about the stocks that are on our radar.
Charlie Travers, you are up first.
You may not know this, but July is National Ice Cream Month.
And in honor of that, I am going with Duncan Brands, which is set to IPO any day now, along with Duncan Donuts.
Duncan Brands also owns Baskin Robbins.
So there's no ticker yet, but keep your eyes out.
Do you have a go-to flavor?
Anything with extra chocolate.
So like double fudge brownie would be something I would go for.
Nice.
Let's bring in our man Steve Brodo.
Steve, do you have a question for Charlie about his pick?
Absolutely.
How does, when you've got a combined store, because I've seen a lot of the Dunkin' Donuts and Basketobbins stores together, what does that do?
Does that end up helping people or confusing people?
It's like, I'm actually getting breakfast here at my ice cream place.
I can't imagine there's any synergy between donuts and ice cream.
So I don't know how it helps them, except for maybe on the rent, they get a better deal.
I think the synergy is awesomeness.
Yes.
It seems confusing, you know?
You're getting a bagel and a shake, milk shake.
It's weird.
That sounds great to me.
Ron, what's your stock?
I'm going to talk about this stock because I actually purchased more of it myself this week.
And so I put listeners to know I put my money where my mouth is.
And that's Berkshire Hathaway, which isn't typically that cheap.
In my opinion, it's cheap right now, especially it's easier to buy for most people the B shares.
BRKB is the symbol.
And the stock is trading for about 76 now.
I think it could be worth 100 at least. This week, Charlie Munger said, I think that people
who own Berkshire stock at current prices will do quite all right just sitting on their
petutes. And I agree with them.
Steve?
How do you explain a company like Berkshire to someone who may not be familiar with it?
I mean, I understand it as a holding company, but I don't even fully understand how a holding
companies work. So maybe help me with that.
Sure. It's a collection of businesses, some that they own the whole entire business, and
And some would they just own stock in the company through the stock market.
But it's a collection of really great businesses that Warren Buffett has picked, and he
lets the managers of those companies run them and produces a tremendous amount of cash flow,
typically not that capital intensive to run.
And you get a nice collection of businesses.
Do you have a favorite business within that conglomerate?
Yeah, but I mean, it's a little cliche.
Got to be a Nebraska furniture market.
These candy is pretty darn good.
And the Geico business model, you can't do much better than Geico.
But that's these candies, pretty tasty.
I would have went with Dairy Queen personally.
Nobody ever says NetJets.
Nobody.
Seth, what's your stock this week?
I got a bunch.
That retail news is pretty good.
And some retailers out there, like Abercrombie and Fitch, look like they're trading pretty
expensive.
I'm going to avoid that one, but I'm going to suggest you take a look for some of the cheaper
ones.
Aero Postal, A.R.O.
G.S.
and B.K.E.
are trading at much cheaper multiples to earnings into what I think they'll do going forward.
And so those are three that I think are worth looking forward.
Steve?
This commercial real estate and what's going on in the real estate environment right now affecting
these businesses, it seems like real estate seems unstable again.
And commercially, it seems like I hear all the time about how poorly real estate is doing.
How is that affecting these businesses? Is it helping them?
Clothing retailers?
Yes.
Well, the best, you know, when commercial real estate is horrible, these guys can negotiate
get better rents if the leases come up or if they're opening new stores. That can be good news
for the savvy retailers if they pick the right spots and get good rents. All right, Seth, Jason,
Ron Gross, Charlie Travers. Guys, thanks for being here. Thanks to our special guest this week.
Carl Kintanier from CNBC, the new documentary BMW, A Driving Obsession, premieres Wednesday,
July 13th at 9 p.m. Eastern. That's it for this edition of Motley Full Money. Our engineer is
Steve Broido. Our producer is Mack Greer. I'm Chris Hill. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week.
Thank you.
