Motley Fool Money - Motley Fool Money: 12.13.2013

Episode Date: December 13, 2013

A new CEO takes the wheel at General Motors. Lululemon's CEO steps down. And MasterCard reports big earnings. Our analysts discuss those stories and share three stocks on their radar. Plus, CNBC's Carl Quintanilla talks Twitter, television, and investing in the new year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Good to see you, Jen. Hey, hey, you're doing. We've got the headlines of the week, and we will answer your questions by dipping into the Fool mailbag. We will check in with Carl Continio from CNBC to get his thoughts as we wrap up 2013 and look ahead to 2014. And as always, we will share a few stock ideas for you to put on your watch list. But let's start with one of the big retailers, and that's Costco. Shares down this week, Ron, first quarter profits came in a little lower than expected. Same store sales up 3%. I don't think they're firing on all cylinders. Are they firing on most cylinders?

fair, okay. Things aren't as strong as I think we're used to. I think in this retail environment, that shouldn't necessarily be that surprising. They are better than, for example, if we look at Target and Walmart's same store sales numbers, which were either flat or even negative, they are doing better there. Operating income was up almost 5%. It would have actually been better if they didn't have some technology expenses for the future for their IT system. So things are going well. I mean, 90% renewal rates in the U.S., 87% worldwide, amazing numbers. The model still works. Everything is absolutely fine with the business. We just happen to be in a kind of a soft environment right now.

How are they feeling about the next quarter, I guess I should say the current quarter, because one of the things we've talked about over the past few weeks is a lot of retailers, and I know Costco has the membership model that others don't, but a lot of retail, it's not just that their quarterly results are not great. It's that they are. are in some cases downright pessimistic about the holidays. I think they're neither optimistic nor pessimistic. They're kind of right in the middle there. I think it's a wait and see how this shapes out.

But they're still in expansion mode. They're going to continue to open new stores. International expansion continues. There's only 650 stores. There's plenty of room, especially internationally, to continue to open up warehouses. And as long as the model works, and it does, we're going to continue to see that. Yeah, I think that's a good point. Ron kicks in there with the international growth, because as it stands right now, their split is about 70% of their stores are in the United States and 30% international international. But the goal is to get that back down to about a 60, 40 split.

And the way to do that is to make about half those stores that they open up every year in international location. So you'll see that, I think, going forward over probably the next decade. It was an eventful week for Lulu Lemon Athletica. The company announced that co-founder Chip Wilson will resign as chairman of the board of directors. You may recall Chip Wilson, he of the famous quote, Some women's bodies just don't actually work for our yoga pants. By the way. Oh, Chip.

If you're a man generally commenting on women's bodies, that's rarely a winning strategy. That's just a little advice for Chip Wilson. But Jason, shares down more than 14 percent this week, in part because third quarter results just weren't that great. No, I think the market's reaction to the stock is appropriate. I mean, it's, you look at, like you mentioned, I mean, Chip Wilson doing his best, Mike Jeffrey's impression there about Bromian Fitch. I mean, the guy can't seem to really say the right thing.

And so I think getting him out of the picture is going to be helpful. Christine Day stepping down. We have a new CEO stepping in. That'll be good at least to get sort of some fresh eyes on this business model. But the fact still remains that the bottom line for Lulu Lemon is they need to get their supply chain and check, because right now it's killing their market. margin line. And if you just look at the numbers, I mean, they were able to grow their direct to consumer sales over the quarter 37 percent. They now actually represent more than 16 percent

of overall sales, but margins for the quarter still came down. Typically, a direct consumer is going to be something that helps boost those margins. And the reason why those margins are down is because a production cost are so high. And so, you know, the doleful reaction today, I think, is warranted. I don't know that I look at something like a Lulu Lemon as optimistically as something like an Under Armour, and what really surprised me was in comparing the two, that Under Armour and Lululmin are actually the same size. But if you look at the numbers that they're going to put in, I mean, 2014 sales for Lululemon will be around $1.6 billion versus Under Armour's around $3 billion.

And then you just have to look at sort of the market opportunity from there. And I think I like Under Armour's market opportunity significantly more than I do Lululemon's more niche market opportunity. Charlie, we've talked before, Christine Day, an amazing run as CEO of Lula Lemon. We've got a new CEO coming in. How much time do you give the new CEO before you can tell that they are doing an effective job? I think maybe a couple quarters at a bare minimum just to get their feet wet and get things up and running. I think they're going to be fine.

You can always bet on companies that make women look good, doing well. I think that is a universal theme. I think as long as their brand reputation isn't tarnished too badly by what happened this year, I think they're going to be fine in the long run, though I do concede your point about Under Arbor. Shares of MasterCard up this week, the company announced the following. A 10-for-1 stock split, a $3.5 billion plan to buyback stock and a dividend increase of 83%. Charlie, that's the kind of dividend increase that makes our colleague James Early just do the happy dance. Yes, Chris. And I'm dumbfounded why I don't actually own.

own shares of MasterCard. We were talking about this before the show, Ron. MasterCard, when I was looking over the numbers, and frankly, for that matter, Visa, I look at these two stocks. They are ubiquitous companies. They're all around us. And I just think, why don't I own shares of either of these? It might not be too late, however.

Right. Something I think we need to look at, both personally and for a million dollar portfolio. Since 2006, MasterCard's stock has gone from $45 to $785. This is not a hidden secret. The reason why we don't own it, though, is I can tell you why. It's because of the stock's never on sale. It's like one of those ones. You always wait for it to mess the bed, and it'll go on sale, and then you can add a few shares.

It never does that. The market commands this premium for a reason. I think it's literally impossible for MasterCard to have a bad year. Because people are using plastic more and more. Is the 10-for-one stock split a surprise? Splitting the stock, I'm not surprised about it. 10-for-one, we don't see that very often. Not often, but there also aren't a whole lot of stocks over $700 either.

So it'll still bring it down to a $78 share price, which I think really only matters if you're trying to use options. Yeah, I mean, the perception will be that the stock is cheaper. I mean, we know that it's not cheaper. It's really worth the same. But when, yeah, I think the perception is when you have a $750 stock versus a $75 stock that will potentially bring more buyers into the market for that, I'd make it more liquid. General Motors in the news for two big reasons this week.

First, Uncle Sam sold off all the remaining shares from the 2009 bailout. And second, General Motors has a new CEO. Mary Barra is currently the executive vice president of Global Product Development. She's the first woman CEO in the automotive industry. So, you know, kudos to the automotive industry for coming into the 21st century. What do you think, Jason? and she's got a really impressive resume. Yeah, I like this.

I mean, she's got a long history with the company. There's a lot of stuff going on at GM right now wrapping up this year. They're sort of cleaning up all their loose ends here with. They sold the ally financial stake. They're selling a Pujo steak. They're pulling Chevy out of Europe. So they're kind of getting this business, I think, in really good working order for Ms. Barra to really take over in the new year. And I know there'd be two perspectives on this.

Either one, you're going to think that the company really just needs an outsider to come. in a fresh set of eyes. The other point of view would be that you want someone who has some experience in the business and has been able to see it fail, more or less. And so she has actually been able to do that. I mean, she's seen what has gone wrong with that company for so many years. And I like having that experience in the executive suite there. And I compare it to something like with Ford. I mean, we have Alan Malalley there now as CEO. But at some point here, it looks like C.O.O. Mark Fields is going to take that position over. And And he's a veteran of that company as well. So I think there's a lot to be said for that.

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through the mailbag. Ron. Question from Darrell Bagnell in San Francisco, California. I have 100% of my portfolio in Berkshire Hathaway. Is this foolish with a capital F, which we consider to be a good thing? Or foolish with a small F. Is this a good idea or is this a horrible, risky mistake? I don't know if horrible risky is the right terminology. I'm not a big fan of it. And here's why. So a lot of people think of Berkshire as a diversified mutual fund. And to some extent I can buy into that. But it's not as diversified as, say, buying an S&P 500 ETF or a mutual fund that owns hundreds and hundreds of companies. We're 33% in insurance with Berkshire, 35% rail and energy. Warren Buffett himself is a big, important part of

this versus if you buy the S&P 500, you're not really focused on any one particular person. I also don't think the return, looking forward, the return of Berkshire really warrants, the return potential warrants having all your eggs in that basket. I think you could do better elsewhere. And I think Warren Buffett might even agree with you if you asked him and he was as honest as he typically is. So I think it's a little bit risky. Obviously, Mr. Buffett will not be with us forever. Hopefully the transition there will be smooth. You never know. But you are taking on added risk whenever you do. do something like that.

You mentioned where Berkshire Hathaway is concentrated in terms of industry. Is technology the biggest missing piece? Because Buffett has said time and time again, he does not really invest in technology because he doesn't think he has an advantage there. It's probably there's smatterings of technology within the businesses, but certainly not in any big way. So it probably would be the biggest because if you have insurance and some financial products, retail manufacturing, rail energy, you're hitting the big sectors. Health care is not huge. Certainly biotech you're not going to see anytime soon.

But, yeah, technology could be one of the reasons why the stock would underperform if it was all of your portfolio. Question from Nate Becker, who writes, I enjoy listening to your show. You're very interesting, informative, and funny, but you're horrible to work out too. Just saying. I can't argue with that. Fair point.

Yeah. He goes on to ask a question about advanced micro devices, which is the chipmaker. He included a link to a story from PC magazine that says that AMD has some part of every gaming console being produced and goes on to write, I was thinking that AMD has cornered the gaming market and I'll win either way, no matter if Xbox One or PlayStation 4 won. I was essentially playing the part of the only arms dealer in a war, but apparently this war is being fought with pillows and corgi puppies. His basic question, Charlie, is, look, if that's the case.

If AMD really does have this corner on the gaming console market, why is the stock still, as he puts it, still doing horrible? Well, more often than not, AMD actually loses money in a given year. If you look over their history, it's an income statement that bleeds red ink, unfortunately. That could change in the future. That hasn't hurt Twitter so far. No, no. But, yeah, so they are competing with Intel. They're at a scale disadvantage.

AMD spend about $1.2 billion on R&D versus $10 billion for Intel. The gaming console angle could help them turn it around. I think both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox 1 have each sold 2 million units since they launched last month. But the console market is much smaller than the desktop PC market, where Intel is a lot stronger than AMD. For example, the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3 over their eight-year console cycle sold 80 million units apiece. So we'll call that 160 million consoles sold over eight years. There's more than 300 million desktop sold in one year. So just the volume difference is staggering. So they can do well

in consoles, but they got problems elsewhere. And it concludes by writing, I know you like to keep track of where your listeners are located. I'm in the Navy in Yokosuka, Japan. So thanks for listening. A question from Eric Klein in Las Vegas, Nevada. How much is too much in my IRA account? Chipotle has doubled. It's now 20% of my portfolio. Do I sell some? Jason Moser? Where I come from, we call that a nice problem. That is a nice problem to have, yes. Oh, my, woe is me. My stock has doubled. Yeah. Tougher things to have to deal with, I'm sure. But I mean, it's actually a very good question because when you run into a situation where a stock that you own

has performed very well, it's going to typically take up more of your portfolio as time goes on, particularly if you're not adding as much to that portfolio. So, I mean, the short answer is, no, I don't think you should have that large of an exposure, that large of a position in something like a Chipotle. To put that in a perspective, so with Motley Fool One, we have the everlasting portfolio. We have 23 separate companies in that portfolio today. And Chipotle, which is actually, it's about a double for us as well, it makes up about 4% of our portfolio. So, the disparity between 4 and 20 is obviously significant. And we feel like at 4%, that's an acceptable position for a company that we feel like still

has a lot of growth left. And I think that's the key there is that you do have a company with plenty of growth left, not only for the Chipotle stores, but also the shop house stores and whatever else may come along. But it is also something that's very tied to the leadership team, and I think that's something you have to keep in mind. There is risk there involved. Restaurants are notoriously tricky, and there are always things going to be.

can pop up out of nowhere, if a leader steps down or something like that. So I can't advise you to sell the shares, but I think it's something that if it's causing you to lose sleep at night, then certainly you should consider rebalancing. I think we play matchmaker here. We get Eric together with Darren from San Francisco. Maybe you talk about Chipotle, Berkshire, Hathaway, work a little something on in terms of diversification. We've got just a few minutes left. Let's get to the stocks that are on our radar this week. We'll bring in our man, Steve Broido, from the other side of the glass, to hit you with a question. Ron Gross, what do you?

you got. Keeping an eye on FedEx, FDX. They report next week. They're going to tell us a lot about what's going on this holiday season. We'll be informed about online versus bricks and mortar. Some economy news in general, I think we'll learn. A lot going on at this company. Huge share buyback, cost-cutting, restructuring. So I want to keep a close eye. And the ticker? FDX. Steve? Saw the movie Castaway again recently on television. FedEx played a big role. What are your thoughts on that movie? I have not seen that movie.

What? Is that the Tom Hanks? Tom Hanks on an island? The ball? I still haven't seen it, but I know what you're talking about. It was very sad. Jason Moser, what's on your radar? I am taking a look at White Wave Foods.

Ticker is W-W-A-V. These guys recently spun out of Dean Foods, and so now it's a separate entity. They have relinquished all interest, or Dean Foods is relinquished all interest in the company, so they're operating on their own. But White Wave Foods is responsible for brands like, soy milk, the soy milk silk, other Horizon Organics. They recently made an acquisition of a produce company called Earthbound Farms. And given the importance of produce and dairy in the organics market, you can see where

White Wave has some pretty good market opportunity to pick up there. And so I'll be keeping an eye on it. Steve, question about... I saw the movie Castaway recently. Steve? How do you hit it big in the food industry? You sell a lot of food. Is this a growth play?

Well, I think it is. And typically what we're looking at today with the advent of natural and organics is really kind of a new sort of perception on the market there with all of these new grocery stores coming out like sprouts and whatnot. And so they are building more and more of a natural and organics arsenal in their stores. And that's how companies like White Wave make their hay. I'll tell you how you hit it big.

Doritos Locos tacos. That's hitting it big. Charlie, we've got about a minute left. reports earnings the next week. Stalwart sports apparel company shoes. They grow their earnings per share at a mid-teens rate. Pretty much every year, I think if you own Nike, you can count on them staying on top, raising that dividend every year. They're doing great in emerging markets, so there's a lot to like here with Nike. And the ticker? NK.E. Steve? I haven't seen a lot of Nike ads on television. Is this something I should be worried about? Yeah, we grew up with the Michael Jordan, Mars Blackman kind of stuff,

and they just don't seem to have that kind of presence out there anymore. But I think their name brand carries itself. Steve, what do you got on your feet right now? I know that's a personal question, but are you a Nike guy or are you brand agnostic when it comes to sneakers? Yeah, I'm pretty agnostic. I think Nike's, I don't know, some ASICs somewhere. I don't really give it a lot of thought.

I probably should. Nike's are good, though. So you're saying when you were watching Castaway during the commercial breaks, there were no Nike ads. Exactly. Not on this channel. All right, Ron Gross, Charlie Travers, Jason Mozer. Guys, thanks for being here. Thanks, thanks for being here.

Thanks, thanks. Up next, we will check in with Carl Kintanilla from CNBC. You're listening to Motley Fool Money. Wilson. Please leave that in. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill. At The Motley Fool, we watch Wall Street from a few hundred miles away, but our guest this week has a front row seat to the action.

He begins each day on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange. Carl Kintania is the host of CNBC's squawk on the street, which you can catch each weekday morning at 9 a.m. Carl, thank you, as always, for making the time. Great to talk to you again, Chris. I want to look back at 2013 in a moment, but before that, the last time you were on the show was back in August. We were talking about Twitter. You had just wrapped up the primetime documentary you had done, Twitter Revolution. And for part of that, you had sat down with CEO, Dick Costello, when Twitter was a private company. Now that they are public, and we obviously know a lot more about their finance.

I'm just curious if anything has surprised you, whether it was when they first filed the S-1 to go public and we could look at their books or anything since then. Well, I think we knew two things. We knew they were going to go public. It just was a matter of when. I think you could argue they timed it pretty well. They got right in the sweet spot, and the IPO market continues to be strong, but they just, they can't. out it was clean they they priced it smartly they got a just an amazing wave of pretty solid publicity I think the FILEEN the filings sort of prove the other thing we knew and that is that they have big ambitions right they want to they truly want to be global they truly want to be ubiquitous they truly want to be bigger than Facebook which they got a long way to go to do that but as a result they're spending everything they're earning and then some. So they're not making a profit. They probably

don't have a problem with all those headlines that said, well, Twitter is not making money. They are apparently going to adopt, take a page out of Jeff Bezos and keep margins small, not post a profit for a while, just plow it back in the business the way any young, small business owner in this country understands, and just see how much they can scale, how quickly. And that's a bold bet. I'm probably bolder than I gave him credit for at the time. You mentioned the stock and the way they priced it. Do you think at least part of that had to do with watching Facebook in Facebook's first year?

Obviously, Facebook raised a ton of money with their IPO. But if you think about how that stock, and to some extent the company, Facebook, struggled in year one of being a public company, do you think this is an example of Twitter just watching that and saying, whatever we do, we don't want to repeat that scenario, even if it means we make less money. Without question. Without question, I mean, we all forget how small Silicon Valley is. These guys basically live next door to each other. And they all remember that day when Mark Zuckerberg rang the opening bell remotely from Menlo Park. So that was clearly on their minds. I think what actually goes talked about not enough is the fact that Twitter CFO, right? the chief financial officer who's in charge of basically dealing with the street,

is a veteran of Zingha, which, you know, has had an incredibly tough time as a public company. I think all of those lessons were very instructive. They hired a really smart banker from Morgan Stanley to run their corporate development. Her name's Cynthia Gaynor. And, you know, I think they went into it with a modicum of caution and it probably for the better. probably did them some good. We're a couple weeks away from wrapping up 2013. I think it's safe to say that one of the business stories of 2013 has been the IPO market. I think we've had more IPOs this year than any year since 2007, 2006. But I'm curious watching the news as you do

every day. What stands out to you in terms of business stories this year? You know, it's funny. I was just making a list of that today. And you and I could talk for an hour about all the great business stories. I'd like to warn our affiliates we'll be going over this week. But think about it. Think about all the great corporate stories. GM, Tesla, Amazon and Bezos, Twitter, J.C. Penny, Blackberry, and then broader things, the oil renaissance in this country, the government shut down and the subsequent ceasefire apparently in Congress. The fact that, you know, some have called this year, Chris, the year that the financial crisis really came to an end, right? where the market started to say, okay, Fed, you want to taper?

All right. If the data is beginning to look good enough that you have our permission in a sense. The polarization of wealth. How can the rich keep getting as rich as they are, Chris, while people are unemployed for such a long period of time where we have so many people on food stamps? I mean, it has run the gamut this year. And I don't know where I would, I guess if I had,

to pick one, you'd have to go broad and say corporate profits up 6%, but people are willing to pay 20% more on a multiple for the market this year. People are willing to invest in stocks again, and whether that's because they were hungry for yield or they're more confident that we're actually going to survive this thing. Who knows? But that's a turning point. And it's a turning point from where we've been the past five years. Fortune magazine named Alon Musk, the CEO of Tesla, as their business person of the year. I'm curious when it comes to investing, is there, as Time magazine used to say anyway, is there a person of most consequence? Oh, that's tough. You know, I mean, Musk is, I think the market, I don't know if you agree with

me, the market is craving Mavericks right now. The market wants to celebrate. great people who are throwing long, who have huge aspirations. I think Musk is fascinating, but I think you could argue that Bezos has been, not only is he more seasoned, but he's more consistent and more diversified. He's got more risks involved. He's got a consumer to worry about. He's got a rainbow of retailers he's up against. Musk is up against, you know, a smaller field of competitive.

competitors. But, you know, Bezos is just, is he going to own the world? I mean, is that the story we're going to be writing in five years? The drone thing, how can one technology that he admits is not even going to be used for years if then make such a splash? I think, you know, if I had been a fortune, I probably, and they've done them before, but I probably would have gone with Bezos again. You're listening to Motley Full Money talking with CNBC's Carl Kintinia. Before we look ahead to 2014. One question about holiday retail. If you look at the data on imports of toys made overseas right now, the classic Barbie doll is on track to be the number one toy this holiday. I'm assuming your daughters don't listen to this radio show. I'm just curious, is that the case

in your home? Are you finding that to be the case for Barbie? You know, we've not, we have tried, we know eventually, it's like McDonald's, right? They're eventually going to discover Barbie, but you try to minimize it in there early, and they're only four, so we're not getting Barbie for Christmas. But that was a great, I thought it was a great set of data that that group posted. They looked at imports on the containers that came in earlier this fall, Barbie number one. And remember, she's gone through a few years where she, you know, was not growing as a franchise for Mattel. So maybe she's back. Some say it's because there's a dearth of must-have toys this season. I did notice that Nerf is also on the list,

along with Sophia I first and some other franchises. But look, she's been around for so long. It's going to be hard to kill that franchise. It's been a perennial winner for Mattel, year in and you're out. As we look ahead to 2014, our CEO, Tom Gardner, has talked before about how challenging it can be for investors to reset expectations. It's difficult to do, but it's important to do, maybe more so at the end of a year like this when the market is up. What are you expecting for the market in 2014? If you poll analysts on Wall Street, there are a bunch who are saying there's absolutely going to be a quote-unquote correction of some sort. But whether it's the market in general or international markets or any particular industry, do you have any expectations for 2014?

I'm torn. And thank goodness that it's not my job to manage people's money because they'd all be in trouble. But I think two things. One will probably get back to basics in a sense because we fully expect the Fed to start paring down their asset purchases, which will allow people to start focusing again on earnings growth, on the shipping rates. you know, just mundane economic indicators, you know, the way we used to count, the way we used to monitor back before we got into this other dimension. And that's setting aside the Fed's other task of withdrawing all that liquidity. So I'd like to see us start paying attention to the real economy again. You'll notice that a lot of the price targets around the street are pretty conservative. I mean, they're only looking for, you know, 1900, maybe 2,000. at year-end S&P, which is, you know, single-digit gain. I will point out that S&P's data shows that very good years,

the kind that we're having this year, are generally followed by also good years, maybe not as good, but it's rare that you have a big double-digit year followed by a down year. It just doesn't happen very, at least in modern history. So I think people would be happy to have a 2014 that is a, a little more muted, but hopefully longer-term healthy. Presumably, at least in the early part of 2014, we will see this hot IPO market continue. This time last year, I think it was reasonable to think that Twitter was going to be the big

water cooler IPO of 2013. Do we have one going into 2014? The only two I jotted down in my notes were Alibaba, which is almost certainly going public, and Snapchat, which is a company that has yet to even bring in one dollar of revenue, and as you and I had talked a couple of weeks ago, I said, this is just one of those companies that makes me feel old, because not only do I not get Snapchat, I don't see how it's a viable business. And my favorite line from the journal story a few weeks ago about their valuation was that

that the company doesn't have a business model yet, but, look, I can't comment on Snapchat. I mean, obviously, we all know that Alibaba will dwarf anything we've seen come to market in a long, long time. That'll be a real test for the market to see if it can absorb something like that. We haven't had a great history with Chinese IPOs. There's implications for Yahoo, whose business, who's business, who's, core business continues to struggle, even as they have this huge tailwind of their owner, their partial ownership in this company. So I don't have a good sense of the IPO market in the next year, but I will tell you that the companies that are going public now feel

lucky. They feel lucky in the sense that there's a windows eventually going to close, and they just got in. Remember when Indiana Jones pulls his hat, you know, from before that, that wall comes down to the floor. I think there's a sense that, you know, we're Indiana Jones, we're going public, and we just got our hat back before this door shut. Coming up, more with Carl Kintanilla. This is Motley Fool Money. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money, Chris Hill talking with Carl Kintanilla of CNBC. Do you think 2014 is the year that the line, to the extent that it exists, the line between television and web video disappears forever? I realize that might be a sensitive question,

given that you work for a television network. But I don't know. When I see Netflix winning awards for programming that never showed up on quote-unquote traditional television, I'm just wondering if that line gets obliterated in 2014. I think eventually it blurs, apologies to Robin Thick, but I don't think it's the 2014 story. And we've been talking about cord cutting. How long now, Chris, right? I mean, the idea has been out there in every month, or every quarter, I should say, cable companies come out and subs are decent.

Their high-speed subs are good. You know, a lot of smart cable executives will tell you, and obviously I work for some, that there's always going to be a place for people to come home and plop on the couch and say, I wonder what's on tonight. that's passive viewing and that's not something that Netflix does, at least not right now. So, and then that's also separately, there's the idea of live sports and news, which has to be done passively in a sense. So Emmys are nice, you know, and the Golden Globes are nice and cheers to Netflix and their producers for getting some. But I don't think it's a game changer yet. Last question before we wrap up with a round of buy, seller, hold. When you look at the stats regarding mobile and just how much change has occurred in mobile just over the past four years,

I mean, it's almost hard to believe now that it was only four years ago that Blackberry had over 40 percent of market share, and that has literally been decimated in the intervening four years. I'm wondering from an investing standpoint, if mobile is now just because becoming a tougher and tougher place for investors to navigate? It's, of all the economies, you know, micro economies that we cover, it probably is the most difficult to understand competitively, aside from maybe teen apparel, right? I mean, these entrants, you mentioned Blackberry,

I tweeted a chart of the past four years of market share, and it just looks like giant X's, as some show. a downward slope and others show an upward slope. I, you know, we're just, sometimes we're at a loss. That's why Apple selling phones in China, where China mobile has, you know, seven times Verizon's subscriber base, is a big deal. And it'll be interesting to see if that eventually gets reflected in Apple's stock price. But it's, it is the Wild West, and people probably don't appreciate enough how,

much the world either doesn't have a phone yet or is waiting to upgrade from your basic phone the kind we used here in the States 10 years ago. So it's going to be an exciting space to watch, but it will make your headspin. All right, we will wrap up with a round of buy-seller hold. Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos created a lot of buzz when he unveiled this idea in an interview on 60 Minutes. Buy-seller Hold, flying delivery drones. I'm going to hold until it's clear that these things can work and that rules will let them work.

This winter event often takes place in a domed stadium, but this year it will be outdoors in New Jersey. Buy seller hold cold weather outdoor Super Bowls. That's a sell, not only because it's on a competing network, but because no tailgating? What is that? As Roker said the other day on the Today Show, I thought we lived in a moment. America. If there are no hold-ups, and that's always a question when you're talking about the United States Senate, her final confirmation should come in the next week or so. Buy-seller-hold, Janet Yellen's tenure as the next Fed chief. I'm a buyer of Yellen, and that's not just because

she's either a Brooklyn or a Queens native, but she's tough, and I think people probably underestimate her at this stage. And finally, you work in cable TV news, and this story is set at the dawn of cable TV news. Buy seller hold, Anchorman 2. Oh, man. That's going to be a buy. Is there a single picture you're more anxious to see, aside from the Scorsese? I mean, this is, it's going to set a new standard for sequels, maybe the most successful

since Empire. It may also increase pressure for future marketing efforts. I was stunned that the CEO of AutoNation gave. credit to Will Ferrell for a spike in Dodge Durango sales. I think he said like 35 percent based on nothing but those ads. I hope Farrell's attorney got him a cut of some of these things because it is brilliant. When he is not guest anchoring the NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams or the Today Show, he's hosting Squawk on the street every weekday morning on CNBC.

Carl Kentonea, always good to talk with you, my friend. Happy holidays, Chris. We got about a minute or so left in the show. Let me bring back our man Steve Broda from the other side of the glass. Steve, Carl Cantanilla, obviously very bullish on Anchorman 2. Did you see the first one? I have seen Anchorman 1. I thought it was terrific.

Big fan. Ron Burgundy. Love Ron Burgundy. I want to be bullish, but the first one was so good. I feel like this is one of those movies where the first one was so good. And as Carl and I talked about earlier in the interview, we talked about investor expectations, something Tom Gardner is very big on. reset your expectations. I feel like my expectations are really high going into this movie.

I think that's a very good point, but I won't mention it. Was it jazz flute or jazz, when he was dancing, Ron Burgundy, dancing, like. Okay, incredible. I'm sure there'll be more of that. I really did enjoy that, so I will see Ancerman see if it looks great. I will say this. I read an article about the writing process that Will Ferrell and Adam McKay, who's his writing partner from S&L and the director of a lot of these movies, including Anchorman, and the jazz flute thing was literally something that Will Ferrell just said, I think he's going to play the jazz flute. And it was like, great.

Just put that in the movie. I loved it. And he also had his little dog. What was his dog's name? I want to say Rufus, but that's not it. His dog was good. The dog goes back. Baxter.

Baxter. Mac Rear. Mac Rear for the win. All right, that's going to do it for this edition of Motley Fool Money. We will see you next week.