Motley Fool Money - Raising the Roof

Episode Date: April 21, 2017

IBM continues its losing streak. Visa hits a new high. Mattel hits a 52-week low. And housing-related stocks raise the roof. Plus, CNBC's Kayla Tausche talks Wall Street, Trump, and tax reform. Thanks... to Warby Parker for supporting The Motley Fool. Order your FREE Home Try-On's at http://www.warbyparker.com/fool .     Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:16 We've got the latest headlines from Wall Street. CNBC's Kayla Taushie is our guest this week. And as always, we'll give you an inside look at the stocks on our radar. But we begin with all things related to housing. Homebuilder D.R. Horton putting up nice profits in the first quarter this week. Stanley Black and Decker's first quarter profits more than doubled. And Sherwin Williams' second quarter results pushed the stock. to a new all-time high. Maddie, we've got all these things sort of in and around the housing
Starting point is 00:01:44 market. And it's, I don't know, I look at these results and I just think, I don't really have any exposure to housing in my portfolio, and maybe it's time I start looking there. You might want to. I mean, you didn't even mention that sales of existing homes in March hit the highest level in a decade. So, lots of macro numbers out there. But I wanted to actually focus on some businesses and kind of, I think this can partly explain what's going on in the housing market. So, Amazon, which we all know, almost $80 billion in North American online sales. Facebook, 1.2 billion daily users. Netflix, probably going to crack 100 million subscribers this weekend, many of whom, for some strange reason, are going to watch a lot of Adam
Starting point is 00:02:26 Sandler, which I didn't know about it. We'll get to that. Yeah. And then Activision Blizzard, which we all know biggest video game publisher. Players spent 40 billion hours playing Activision games last year, 3 billion hours watching other people play Activision video games. And here's one more data point. Somewhere according to the US census, 20 to 25 percent of employees around the country telework at least part of the time.
Starting point is 00:02:50 So where am I going with this? People are shopping online, entertaining themselves at home, spending hours and hours, interacting on Facebook, Snapchat, Tinder, and increasingly working from home. So I feel like, where is all the investing going? Where are they not doing? Well, they're not going, getting in their car, driving to a restaurant or to the mall to go shopping. And so I feel like that in a way is something that's been happening for a very, very long time.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I just think now we're finally seeing the implications in the markets and in business. And it's astounding trend. Yeah. Last year was the first year where millennials, people between ages of 18 and 34, became the largest demographic in the U.S. topping baby boomers. So at some point, those millennials will move out of their parents' basement. They'll want to buy their own. I finally did. I made that leap a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:03:40 But I think that's a long-term tailwind behind the housing market, because at some point, those millennials will look to move into their own house or potentially build their own house. And on that note, U.S. housing starts or the construction of new homes is still a good amount below the historical averages. So there are still rooms for that tailwind to continue. When I was just saying, what are those millennials going to do? I think more than any other generation, I think they're going to spend a lot more time at home than any other generation. And so that's where they're investing in their time and all that's going to be spent. Yeah, I mean, housing is in great shape. I personally would like to go ahead and take credit for the lion's share of that activity here this first quarter of this year. So you're welcome, America.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Chris, I think you probably have more exposure to housing, though, than you give yourself credit for. As a homeowner, you have a lot of equity in your home, I think. Right? So there's your exposure. And that really is one of the benefits. to being a homeowner is getting that equity, giving you the opportunity to do more with that as time goes on, because that equity ultimately results in new ways to finance things that may come up in your life. You've got a child, I think, who's getting ready to go to college here. It's going to be a lot of big bills coming your way, Chris. So you may want to look at refinancing and who's going to play a big part in that refinancing.
Starting point is 00:04:49 One of our favorite business is L.E. May, which is another way to play into that housing market. And we've talked a lot about Sherwin Williams, another phenomenal quarter. I mean, this is a business where the paint stores group is responsible for most of the company's revenue, about 70% of the revenue. And this domestically, it's about a $12 billion industry. And Sherwin Williams owns more than half of that market share altogether. So I think you posed a very good question before taping it, what exactly is going to disrupt paint in the coming years?
Starting point is 00:05:21 I mean, it's a bit tongue-in-cheeked, but really I don't know what does. Because Sherwin-Wa-25 years from now, aren't we going to be painting our houses and apartments the way that we're doing it right now? I just don't see that changing in any big way. Unless we have pixelized wallpaper. Walpaper screen. Sherman Williams is just in a great position there with that. Because of the presence, because of the portfolio of offerings, it's more than just Sherwin-Williams. They're able to pass through production costs pretty reasonably without too much interruption of the business, because they've priced their sort of product there. It's not that higher-end offers.
Starting point is 00:05:54 offering like a Benjamin Moore. They're getting ready to close this VALS-Barr deal, which is only going to make this company bigger. So I think when you look at a business like Sherwin-Williams, we had it on the watch list in MDP for a while, the biggest problem was we could never get it to where the price actually made sense. And I understand why. The market gives this thing a lot of credit because it deserves it. Yeah, I just think standing back, what we've seen with retail sales this past holiday season, we continue to see it. I think that's a big, big trend. And we know for a fact based on statistics that were sort of over-retailed in the U.S. anyway. And so maybe naturally it
Starting point is 00:06:28 needs to come down anyway. But I think that's a big, big trend to watch out for. Second quarter profits for Visa rose 27%. That was higher than Wall Street was expecting. So was Visa's revenue. Probably no surprise, Jason, that we've got Visa's stock hitting a new high on Friday. Sure. I mean, we often get the question, which stock should I own? Visa or MasterCard? And, Chris, my answer is yes. I think you should just own both. Because honestly, there is no reason not to. I mean, these are two businesses that are playing into one of the biggest secular trends out there today as more and more economies go cashless.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I mean, this is something where the overwhelming majority of the world is still not cashless. And so this is a trend I think it's going to play out for a while to come. Visa doing a great job with it. Payments volume up 37 percent from a year ago, $1.7 trillion of volume in that quarter. I mean, that's just amazing. Transactions were up 12 percent, inclusive of Visa Europe. They just brought in Visa Europe into the business. year. So now there's one company focusing on taking over the world, so to speak. And taking
Starting point is 00:07:29 over the world is probably pretty reasonable way to look at it because there's more than three billion Visa branded cards out there in the world today. More than 44 million merchant locations. I mean, these guys are doing everything right. Again, I mean, I really do mean it when I say there's no reason why you shouldn't own Visa and MasterCard because they really are too very good businesses that have done really well for shareholders over the past decade and beyond. Yeah, it's tough for me to see how Visa and MasterCard get disrupted anytime soon, because the reason I really like these businesses, I think part of the reason they have such incredible margins, really unheard of margins compared to a lot of other companies and industries,
Starting point is 00:08:08 is that they will succeed regardless of what platform you're using, whether it's AliPay from Alibaba, we chat, PayPal, you're still using the credit cards and they're still processing those transactions. So they're just in such a powerful position, such an incredible network that I love the position that they're in over the long term. For the first time ever, Verizon reported a quarterly loss. David, I'm sure there are other things of note in their first quarter report, but a loss? Well, yeah, it was their first ever quarterly decline of wireless subscribers. So they're finally, I think, feeling some pressure from T-Mobile and Sprint, but I think T-Mobile
Starting point is 00:08:41 deserves a lot of the credit here. T-Mobile has really been aggressively going after Verizon and AT&T. 2013, the number of wireless subscribers with T-Mobile have grown from 44 million to over 71 million today. Verizon has 145 million, so they're still in that lead position, but I think they might be getting a little bit complacent here. And I think there is room for T-Mobile to disrupt Verizon and continue to gain some share. There is a recent spectrum auction with the FCC, essentially where companies like Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile can bid on that spectrum from the FCC to grow their networks and grow the amount of data they can process and the speeds and so forth.
Starting point is 00:09:24 T-Mobile spent nearly $8 billion for 45% of the available spectrum in that auction. AT&T bid $900 million. Verizon didn't bid anything. They didn't bid for any of the available spectrum. So to me, that signifies it. Maybe Verizon's a little bit complacent here. That leaves a lot of room for T-Mobile to boost the speed and capacity of their network. So I like the position that T-Mobile's in.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And over the past year, T-Mobile shares are up 61%, Verizon down 4%. Is there a CEO in the public markets more entertaining on Twitter than T-Mobile CEO, John Ledger? The way he just aggressively trolls, in particular, Verizon. Somehow he worked hashtag Verheisen into one of his tweets going after Verizon's CFO. He said, stop gouging your customers and start doing more for them. Seriously, how Verheisen are you? He actually sent that out on 420, too, right? April 20.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Oh, man. There you go. The man's brilliance just compounds. A lot of numbers went into IBM's first quarter report, so let's go with this one. It was the 20th quarter in a row of declining revenue. Shares a big blue down about 5% this week, Maddie. You know that old saying? No one ever got fired for choosing IBM.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Well, that used to apply in the investor world, too. I feel like if you're a money manager and you invested your client's assets in IBM, and if you had a bad quarter, how could they blame you? You bought IBM. I don't think that really holds it. really holds anymore, though, with Big Blue. You mentioned the 20th consecutive quarter. If you go back to 2012, that was the last year when IBM generated over 100 billion in revenue. That also marked the peak for IBM's earnings. They generated 16.6 billion in profits that
Starting point is 00:11:02 year. Over the last 12 months, 79 billion in revenue and just 11.6 billion in profits. And of course, people are going to say, well, they're paying a great dividend and earnings for share haven't come down that much. A lot of that is financial engineering. It's only going to get you so far. I'd say the problem with IBM. is, I don't think they really know who they are. I mean, I think they're a cloud company, a consulting company, a big data company. I just think they're trying to do all those things, but not one thing particularly well. But we don't know what they are either. I mean, we've been talking about that a lot lately. It's like, what is IBM anymore? What is it? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I think most people think it's Watson, although Watson's not something you can actually buy for your home or for your business. And so I'm not sure. I think people, I think that's totally understandable that people think it's Watson, because from a promotional standpoint, that is how IBM is pushing itself. If you just look at their television ads, it's all about Watson. And so, I, and when you think about the way management talks about their latest report, I don't blame them for saying, well, just ignore the declining revenue and focus on our growth in cloud. It's like, that's fine, but the growth in cloud is not making up for the declining revenue.
Starting point is 00:12:08 No, no. And overall, they're declining. So, I mean, shifting, restructuring your business or shifting from one segment to another is not going to get the job. done and certainly hasn't over the last five years. Coming up, if you have a few hundred dollars, you want a light on fire. We have got just the product for you. Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Full Money. Welcome back to Motley Full Money. Chris Hill here in studio with Jason Moser, Matt Argusinger, and David Kretzman. Shares of Matt Metell hitting their lowest point in over a year after a first quarter loss that was much worse than expected. And Jason, they had a bad holiday quarter and they did so much discounting after.
Starting point is 00:12:48 the holidays, that's what showed up in this report. That's right. It's really hard to get worked up for this business these days. Mattel is just very much a company in crisis. I think new leadership in Margot, Georgiatis, was sorely needed, but I'm afraid that she's not the answer alone. I think that Mattel, they're facing a bigger crisis in some of the brands that they have in their portfolio, some of the brands that have really been responsible for so much of the strength of the company in past years, American Girl dolls, Monster High. Those are franchises that now are turning on them and really becoming sort of a drag on the company's performance. And really, we've
Starting point is 00:13:28 talked about this before with Mattel and with Hasbro. And really, the key for these businesses, figuring out a way to hitch sort of to the bigger players out there that have the IP, like Disney, for example. That's the easiest example. And we talked about Hasbro's striking gold with that new princess's deal. And I think that's going to pay off for years and years to come. Conversely, when we look at Mattel's conference call, they're talking about, oh, this big release for Cars 3 next quarter. And I'm sorry, I mean, Cars 3 is a pretty successful franchiser, but it doesn't hold a candle to princesses and Star Wars. And so, I mean, what Mattel is realizing now is underinvesting in the business and chasing some of those
Starting point is 00:14:09 opportunities, I think is going to really hamper for some time to come. And to your point about Inventory, I mean, gross margin fell almost seven full percentage points this quarter because of that glut of inventory. They had to unload after the holiday season at rock bottom prices. I mean, that's just Retail 101 right there. When you see retailers doing that, those are signs, those are red flags. And Mattel's full of them. Although, Georgianna is, she's been CEO for about an hour and a half. Right. Yeah. I mean, you got to give her a little bit of time. You got to give her. I think we've talked about that before a market foolery, maybe.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And you've really got to give her a year to kind of try to get this plan sort of established and to see if the company can actually gain some traction with it. But, man, I tell you, she's got her work cut out for her. Shares of Netflix down a bit this week after subscriber growth in the first quarter was a little bit lower than expected. That being said, David, this wasn't a bad quarter. No, not a bad quarter. And, you know, the stock wasn't nearly as volatile after this release as we've seen in previous years where, you know, it pops up or down 20%. And that's a mild reaction from the market.
Starting point is 00:15:10 So, no, this quarter really brought a lot of what Wall Street and the market was expecting. To me, though, I mean, Wall Street and the headlines are focusing on the profitability of Netflix. And that's true to an extent, but you can't ignore the huge upfront cash costs that Netflix is incurring, spending this money on original content. Their free cash flow burn or their cash burn is now about $1.7 billion over the past year, and that's increasing. they already have a net debt position of $2 billion, and there's rumors that they're going to bring on another $2 billion in debt in the next couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So that signifies a fairly risky investment. That's a huge bet on that original content paying off. And so far, that has been a wise investment. But when you have a company that's burning so much cash and raising a lot of debt, that increases the risk with that investment a good amount. Yeah, I mean, I think it's amazing because I think Re Hastings a few years ago, said, after one of their good quarters, he said, you know, I think the cash that we're going to be generating in like two years or three years is going to be amazing.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I got investors all excited. Now he's come out and said, well, no, we're pretty much going to be negative-free cash flow for at least the next few years. Many years. I mean, and I get the strategy. I think expanding as much as they had and gaining scale and, of course, expanding to many, many more countries of the last years, it's the right strategy. At some point, and I think David's right, it's going to catch up with the content costs.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Although, to the point you made earlier in the show, Maddie, they did call out the fact that Netflix subscribers have watched half a billion hours of Adam Sandler movies. And we can laugh about that as we should. But I think they call that out as a signal to people to say, you know what? We know what our people want. Yeah, we're giving a lot of big checks out to Adam Sandler and Jerry Seinfeld and others. But people are actually watching this stuff. And so it's worth paying them for it. If he can have that success with Adam Sandler, then the $6 billion are spending on content.
Starting point is 00:17:08 this year should be able to go pretty far. One of the more impressively funded startup gadget companies in Silicon Valley is Juicerow, a $400 juice machine that presses single servings of healthy juice. The Juicerow has been compared to a Currig coffee machine, and the business model appears to be the same. You buy the machine, and then you buy bags of healthy juice so that the machine can press them. There appears to be just one problem, however. Some of the company's investors, which include, by the way, Kleiner Perkins and Alphabet,
Starting point is 00:17:41 they were surprised to learn that you can also squeeze the juicerow bags with your bare hands, which of course begs the question, Maddie, what do I need a $400 machine for if I can just take this bag and squeeze my juice myself? We read and see these types of companies all the time. If you go to the Consumer Electronics Show, I guarantee you'll see dozens of juice pressers out there. fascinates me about this story is that supposedly smart guys and gals from Alphabet and Clanner Perkins sat in a room at some point for a presentation and decided to invest, I think,
Starting point is 00:18:14 around $100 million. $120 million in venture funding raised by this company. I'm astounded. You know, in the honor of the Simpsons turning 30 this year, I mean, I can't help. The first thing I went to when I read this story, I mean, it takes me to Dr. Nick Riviera and Troy McClure pushing the juice loosener, right? Yes. You got that all from one bag of oranges?
Starting point is 00:18:34 is the juice lucener. I mean, that's what this is, right? It's peak Silicon Valley. Let's go to our man behind the glass, Steve Broido. And increasingly healthy, Steve, Steve, I know you've been hitting the gym a lot lately. Where does juice fit into your new health regimen? Nowhere. Nowhere, so if your lovely bride were to pick up a juiceroy as a birthday gift or something like that. There'd be no interest. It'd go with the soda stream, I think. Wow. So you're going with cellarough.
Starting point is 00:19:04 soda instead of juice. Absolutely. All right, drop us an email, Radio at Fool.com. SodaStream or Juicero. You get one free, which one are you choosing? Radio at Fool.com. All right, Jason Moser, David Kretzman, Matt Argusinger. Guys, we'll see you later in the show. Up next, CNBC's Kayla Taushie will join us to talk about what investors should be watching in Washington, D.C. Stay right here. This is Motley Fool Money.
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Starting point is 00:21:32 and friends, and they'll help you pick that. the winner. Go to Warbyparker.com slash fool and order your free home try-ons. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill. On Monday, Congress returns from a two-week break, and the federal government is set to run out of money on April 28th, unless the powers that be can reach an agreement on a new budget. So here to help us make sense of it all is Kayla Taushy, Washington correspondent for CNBC. She joins me now from our nation's capital. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me, Chris. We don't usually get into the political arena here at the Motley Fool, but this seems like one of those situations where I get the sense that Wall Street is going to be watching what happens on Capitol Hill a little more closely than usual.
Starting point is 00:22:21 So in terms of getting a budget deal, do you have a sense of what is likely to happen over the next week or so or even what investors should be watching for? Well, there's going to be a big college effort to get this done, Chris, next week. unofficially, or officially, I should say, Congress returns from recess on Monday, but they're not fully going to be in session, all of them having returned until Tuesday at around 6.30. And I have to imagine that the last time that they kicked the can down the road on the budget, first in September of last year, and then in December, that they didn't necessarily believe that April 28, 2017 was going to be a difficult deadline to reach. This time around, it corresponds with roughly the 100th day of the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:23:06 and having a Republican president in the White House, Republican majority in Congress, it should have been an easy deadline to reach. Now they're trying to grapple with what's more important to have accomplished by the end of those 100 days. Repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, which was the campaign promise that nearly every Republican dumped on last year, or getting this budget passed and not kicking the can down the road again. Luckily, they do have a couple options. They're currently discussing a plan C, I should say, to have a short-term stop-gap bill, to get them a week or a couple weeks down the road if they decide they want to prioritize health care
Starting point is 00:23:41 or if they can't reach a deal on the budget. But again, this is somewhat frustrating to people who have been pushing for this deal to get done that thought in December or in September that we weren't going to be in this situation again. President Trump seems to pay pretty close attention to polls, or at least some polls. And in one form or another, you could look at the performance of the stock market as a poll. So if we don't see that sort of concerted effort, or if it gets bungled in some way, that's likely to send some sort of shockwaves through the market, send investors scrambling because, as the old adage goes, the market really hates uncertainty. How big a risk is that? Because it really does seem like it only takes one mistake either on
Starting point is 00:24:32 the funding or on health care reform to send at least some investors headed for the exits. Well, there will certainly be a reaction in the market. And we know that the administration takes the stock market very seriously. Steve Mnuchin, who's the Treasury Secretary, called it a mark-to-market business running the White House. Gary Cohn, who runs the National Economic Council, he said that the stock market is a real-time barometer. But you could argue, Chris, that it's already been factored in this difficulty of governing over the state. the last few months. The market's been trading sideways. Most of the gains since the election were captured between November and mid-February. I think when the market started to realize
Starting point is 00:25:12 that governing isn't going to be as easy as conventional wisdom previously thought, they started backing away. You didn't have a ton of net new buyers in the market. And so they haven't been giving the administration as much credit for the last couple of months. That being said, the underlying earnings that companies are turning in for the most part, except for a couple high profile misses are good. So the market is saying, look, GDP might be good, earnings growth is still good. There might not be a ton of reasons to sell the market, and there's not the urgency of the financial crisis where you would see a ton of selling when Congress didn't pass, say, the TARP rescue package. But that being said, they might not have a lot of reasons to come in and buy the
Starting point is 00:25:54 market unless they see something positive happen. Certainly, as you mentioned, healthcare reform was a big promise during the campaign. But one of the expectations after the election in terms of economic initiatives that we heard was we heard about infrastructure spending, maybe putting together a huge infrastructure bill that would stimulate the economy. But we also heard a lot about tax reform. As you said, we have a Republican president, we have a Republican Congress. Cutting corporate taxes seems like such a slam dunk. Is that a going to happen in 2017 because once upon a time it seemed like a no-brainer. And now you're starting to hear more whispers like, yeah, this might not happen until 2018 if then. Right. Goldman Sachs actually
Starting point is 00:26:42 just put out a note this week saying that it is more likely that it is a first quarter of 2018 scenario if it happens. Goldman did say that it believes that it is still a priority and that the administration is committed. But the timelines for these things have been stretched way out. some in the market who say maybe they could do just a corporate tax rate cut, that that would be easy enough that you could increase the deficit and give companies a break. But the administration has made it clear that they want widespread and across the board tax reform. They want the middle class, they want individuals to be able to see a tax cut. And Sean Spicer, the press secretary said a couple weeks ago that individuals, when they file their taxes for the full year
Starting point is 00:27:27 2017, he hopes that they will have a tax cut and that they will pay lower taxes. But it's unclear exactly where the negotiating ground is on this. The president is not an ideologue. It's unclear what his non-negotiables are. He put out a plan during the campaign that is different in some substance from what Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House and the Ways and Means Committee have been talking about. And it's unclear what the president believes has to be in there, what Congress believes has to be in there and what the non-negotiables are, what the negotiables are, and how something gets out the other side. You're listening to Motley Full Money talking with Kayla Taushy, Washington correspondent for CNBC. Before you headed down to the D.C. Bureau, you were covering
Starting point is 00:28:13 the financial industry and the big bank stocks are up around 30 percent or so since the election last year with no real change to their fundamental businesses. In terms of expectations, we talked about tax reform, there really seems to be an expectation that there will be banking, meaningful banking deregulation, and that's what's driving these stocks up. Is that likely to happen? Because that seems like an even longer putt than tax reform. There's certainly some momentum there. We did just see a draft from Congressman Jeb Henserling, who runs the House Financial Services Committee. he's put forward some legislation that would seek to reform financial regulation, in essence, a replacement of Dodd-Frank. And it has certain relief for the banking industry.
Starting point is 00:29:05 For instance, they currently go through stress tests twice a year to basically prepare their balance sheet for a worst-case economic scenario. Under Congressman Henslerling's legislation, that would go from twice a year to every two years. That's a huge cost for all of these banks. the biggest banks have hundreds, in some cases, thousands of people who are working on those stress tests alone. So if you get to exhale and not have to do that twice a year and instead do that every two years, that's a huge relief. I think early on after the election, a lot of the momentum that was built into the banking industry was this promise that there would be no new
Starting point is 00:29:44 regulation. Dodd-Frank still has about 300 rules that haven't even been written. So there's this idea that, okay, the president has put a moratorium on new regulation, at least they won't have to comply with 300 plus brand new rules. And you have an administration in place and congressional momentum against regulating them further. So there does appear to be some conversation that's headed in the direction that would benefit the banks. But, Chris, the thing that's hurting them the most right now and that you're seeing in their earnings is that the Treasury market, Treasury yields, have gone down. And that is what banks price a lot of their assets off of. That is what they lend to consumers off of. And if yields on bonds go down, then banks ultimately are less profitable.
Starting point is 00:30:32 That was unexpected. And that's going to offset some of the benefit the banks will see from Washington. One of the things we've seen since President Trump took office is a pretty steady stream of public company CEOs meeting with the president. From the people that you talk with on the government side and on the business side. Is there any theme emerging from those meetings? Is there any tangible takeaway, or is it just for optics and the sort of hope that somewhere down the road these different industry CEOs are going to find some sort of favorable law past that's going to benefit their company?
Starting point is 00:31:14 Well, I think it's safe to say that the motivation has changed over time. in the early days of the administration, CEOs wanted a seat at the table because they didn't want to be the subject of the president's Twitter wrath, where he called them out in front of millions of his followers. They also didn't want to not be there and have their competitors be there in case there was a tug of war between which company would get a contractor, which company would get potentially more favorable treatment. over time, CEOs have suggested that the value in having a seat at the table is weighing in on policy discussions that might be advantageous for your company. For instance, in just the last couple of weeks, we've seen the White House change its tune
Starting point is 00:32:00 on the XM Bank, which the Wall Street Journal reported was directly a result of a conversation that the president had with the CEO of Boeing, which benefits from the XM Bank. Also, the president changed his position on calling China a currency manipulative. which was reported to be a discussion that Steve Schwartzman, who's the CEO and founder of Blackstone, raised, and other CEOs have raised saying, you know, we do business in China. This would really, really rock the global financial system if you were to do this. We don't think that that's a good policy, and not to mention China actually stopped intervening in its currency in the way that you were talking about on the campaign trail.
Starting point is 00:32:38 So CEOs have realized that there are real results when they weigh in and that the president is listening. when they talk. All right. Let's move off of the macro economy for just a moment. Next month marks the five-year anniversary of Facebook going public. It is now, I think it is now the fifth largest public company in the United States. You covered that IPO. My memory is that it did not go smoothly at all. I'm curious if you could share anything that stands out from that day, And are you at all surprised that it is as big and successful as it is five years out? Well, the memory that sticks out the most to me, Chris, is not necessarily the IPO day itself, eventful as that day was with a false alarm on the open and then the glitch and then the significant price decline, the reporting that it would change from the NASDAQ to the stock exchange because the company was so angered about how poorly it was handled. but the headline in December, a few months before it actually went public,
Starting point is 00:33:40 and the headline was at the top of the Wall Street Journal, and it said Facebook seeks to be a blue-chip company. And that was the first report that Facebook was going to have a market cap above $100 billion. And people said they are crazy if they think the Fidelity, the vanguard, the big retirement money managers, are going to be buying this speculative stock. And what has been proven in the five years since is how formidable that company is
Starting point is 00:34:04 in terms of earnings power, how nimble it has been in changing its business model, and how much it was able to capitalize on transitioning its business to mobile, because that was the reason why the IPO didn't go so well. They had added a line to their filing that said, you know, most of our users are transitioning from their desktop computers to mobile. We have zero percent revenue in that space. Now mobile is 75 percent of Facebook's revenue, and it's safe to say that they manage that transition well, although now in 2017, they're facing a much different set of problems. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Last thing, and then I'll let you go. You grew up in Georgia. You're a proud graduate, very proud graduate of the University of North Carolina. Congrats on the men's basketball national championship. I can't claim any credit, but I will take the congratulations. So Georgia, North Carolina, you've only been in Washington, D.C. for a few months. Have you found any good barbecue yet? Not yet, but I will take any recommendations that come in.
Starting point is 00:35:04 You know, it's definitely a little bit more of a southern flavor in this town. My colleague told me that Washington, D.C. has the efficiency of the South and the personality of the North, which I think it's supposed to be an insult on both ends. But being from Atlanta, coming off a decade in New York, I can definitely identify with both of those and feel at home either way. If you want to know what's happening in Washington, D.C., that affects the economy, and your investments. Good news. Kala Taushi has got it covered on CNBC, on Twitter, and elsewhere. Kayla, thanks so much for taking time out of your day. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Coming up next, we'll give me an inside look at the stocks on our radar. This is Motley Fool Money. As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about, and the Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against. So don't buy yourself stocks, base solely on what you hear. Welcome back to Motley Full Money. Chris Hill here in studio, joined once again by Jason Moser, Matt Argusinger and David Krentzman. You can check out past episodes of Motley Fool Money and all of our podcast by going to podcast.fool.com. And while you're there, you can test drive our flagship service, Motley Fool Stock Advisor. The brand new issue just came out. Two new stock recommendations from David and
Starting point is 00:36:27 Tom Gardner. So check that out. Go to the podcast center. Scroll to the bottom of the page at podcast.fool.com. I have said before, one of the reasons I love working at the Motley Fool is we get to work with so many smart and talented people. And earlier this week, the DC Femtech Awards were announced. The awards highlight women programmers, designers, and data scientists in the greater Washington, D.C. area. And I am happy to share that for the third year in a row, our colleague Lisa Chung is being honored for her work. And by the way, guys, the D.C. FemmTech Awards have been given out for three years. And Lisa's been honored every year. That's how good she is. We're going to go to our man, Steve Brodo, behind the glass. Also joining us this week,
Starting point is 00:37:10 special guest Keith Fredrickson, visiting from New York City. Thanks for coming by, Keith. All right. Jason Moza, you're up first. Steve will hit you with a question. What's on your radar this week? Well, yeah, sticking with the health theme, looking at Boston beer, ticker is S-A-M. I'm sorry, the health theme? Well, it makes you feel good. We've really talked a lot about the headwinds that they've been facing in the craft industry as more and more craft. brewers pop up around the country. And I don't think that threat is abating anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I expect to see a lot of the same here in this coming quarter with falling depletions, sort of just them trying to figure out new ways to get products out to consumers. It's just really difficult in this space when you have so many options. And Boston beers just kind of in that twilight zone and not quite small to be craft and not quite big enough to compete with the big boys. They have to figure out a way to do that. And I actually think Jim Cook, if he's not too proud, has the opportunity here perhaps to be the Buffet of Kraft beer and start bringing the smaller regional players in under their umbrella, give them the distribution, given that capital, the public markets, give these public companies. There could be an
Starting point is 00:38:19 opportunity there, but this earning slated for Wednesday is one we're watching. And the ticker symbol? S.A.M. Steve Brodo, a question about Boston beer? Is there a low-end opportunity for them? Is there a PBR somewhere like opportunity for Boston beer? I think of them as being very classy beers. Well, they are classy. I think really the opportunity is figuring in a way to convince those PBR, those Bud Light drinkers, why they should be drinking Samuel Adams instead. I think the biggest challenge there, it's going to require a little bit lower pricing, which could play out on the company's profitability in the near run, at least. Do you think they want to buy juicero? I would imagine they'll take a pass.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Might be a discount. David Kretzman, what are you looking at this week? I'm looking at Skechers, ticker SKX. This is a global shoe company known especially for its casual work and walking shoes. They have over 2,000 retail stores worldwide, including 550 in China. They're still working through some of the retail headwinds domestically in particular, but that international business makes up about half of revenue today, and it's still growing. They reported results this week. It was their first $1 billion-plus quarter in terms of sales. They have a strong balance sheet over $500 million in net cash. It's just trading at 16
Starting point is 00:39:31 times earnings. So I think the expectations low, but I think the company might be able to top that. Steve, question about Skechers? Do you wear Skechers shoes yourself? I do. The company actually is getting into athletic shoes, running shoes in particular, and they have the highest rated shoes on Amazon, running shoes on Amazon and the lowest price point. And I'm a happy customer. Matt Argusinger, what are you looking at this week? Well, if you believe all those things I said in the earlier segment about people spending a lot more time at home, then I think we should all be taking a closer look at Grubhub, which is the ticker symbol is appropriately, G-R-U-B. I think most people know that this Grubhub enables people to order food delivery from over
Starting point is 00:40:07 50,000 restaurants. I know this in over 1,000 cities. It takes a nice piece of every transaction. Company grew revenue 37 percent last year and is very profitable. Steve, question about Grubhub. How does anyone make any money here? It seems like you're getting Grubhubb gets a cut, the delivery. Everyone's getting a cut here. Who's making money? Middleman or everywhere, Steve. I know. Grubhubhub does a good job. You're paying for the delivery, and you're paying a small portion of the menu cost. I mean, restaurants like it because it builds their business, and so they'll make it up in volume in most cases.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Steve, you can wear your Skechers, walk to pick up a six-pack of Boston beer, and while that's happening, Grubhub's going to deliver something to your home. You got one of these three stocks you want to add to your watch list? I might look at Skechers. All right. If you could have Olive Garden delivered via Grubhubhub, are you going that route? Absolutely. Absolutely. There you go. I didn't know if the end restaurant dining experience was part of the attraction of the olive garden
Starting point is 00:41:01 store pickup experience is also delightful. As long as you're wearing your sketchers shoes, I'll pick it up. All right, Jason Moser, David Kretzman, Matt Argusinger, guys. Thanks for being here. That is going to do it for this week's edition of Motley Fool Money. Our engineer is Steve Roydo. Our producer is Matt Greer.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Next week, we're going to get a preview of the Berkshire-Hathaway annual meeting with CNBC's Becky Quick, so tune in for that. I'm Chris Hill. Thanks for listening. and we'll see you next week.

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