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Episode Date: July 14, 2017Prime Day is Amazon’s biggest ever. Target raises guidance. Citigroup, Wells Fargo and JP Morgan Chase report strong profits. HBO and Netflix rake in Emmy nominations, while Visa offers $10,000 to s...mall businesses willing to quit cash. Our analysts discuss those stories, offer a preview of earnings season, and go bargain-hunting for stocks (in addition to the usual “Stocks On Our Radar”.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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It's the Molly Full Money Radio Show. I'm Chris Hill, and joining me in studio this week from
Million Dollar Portfolio, Jason Moser and Matt Argusinger, and from Supernova, David Kretzman.
Good to see you, as always, Jets.
Hey, Chris.
We'll get to the latest headlines from Wall Street. We will dip into the full mailbag.
And as always, we'll give an inside look at the stocks on our radar.
But we begin this week with the Big Banks on Friday morning, Citigroup, JPMorgan,
Chase and Wells Fargo, all reporting better than expected profits in the second quarter.
a lot of enthusiasm for the stocks, though, Jason. Although in the case of Citigroup and J.P. Morgan,
those two stocks have had a really nice run lately.
Well, fire up the earnings-palooza engine, Chris. It begins, right?
Yeah, so I think with all of these banks, I think really the big headline with all of
these banks' earnings, it came from Jamie Diamond's tone on the conference call. And I'm not
going to go into specifically what he said, because we'd have to whip out the bleep button
for that.
I was going to say, this is a family show.
It is a family show. But I think we could sum it up by saying that Jamie Diamond is clearly
very fed up with the dysfunction in DC, the red tape and the barriers to productivity. I mean,
that was it in a nutshell. And so somewhat critical of the administration thus far, and I don't
think it's pinpointed just to this administration, but really a long sort of history of unfriendly
corporate taxation. He feels like there's a lot of capital out there that needs to be brought
back and sort of unlocked and put to work. So, I mean, it'll be very interesting to see how
D.C. reacts to this because obviously the big banks do carry a lot of sway in our economy.
And when you look at Bank like Wells Fargo, I mean, Wells Fargo obviously owns a lot of the
mortgage market. And their loan originations came in at $56 billion for the quarter versus $44 billion
last quarter. They are actually taking some initiative and bumping up their deposit rates
to try to, I think, counter a little bit of the negative press, obviously, from the fraudulent accounts,
scandal here over the past year. So it's nice to see them trying to be a bit more customer-centric
from that perspective. But again, I think this all kind of boils back to the interest rate
environment here going forward. It looks like rates are going to go up a lot more slowly than perhaps
they anticipated. And that's likely going to cap these banks' profitability a little bit.
I think that's the concern with the guidance that really all three banks laid out this morning.
Yeah, that would be my key point about the banks is the interest rates. And because as interest
rates go up, banks can generally raise the rates they charge on lending loans faster than they
have to pay depositors. And so I think that's the key point to a lot of these banks. They want
to be benefiting from higher rates. It's just that that curve keeps getting pushed out farther
and flattened out. And it's coming back to hurt their earnings.
From big banks to big retail, in this case, Amazon and Target. Amazon Prime Day resulted in the
biggest single day of sales ever for Amazon. This comes the same week that Target CEO Brian
Cornell raised guidance for the retailer, citing higher traffic in their stores.
Maddie, let's start with Amazon. Forget Black Friday, forget Cyber Monday. It really
does seem like Prime Day is the most important day for them.
Right. Based on the expected growth rate of 60 percent, this was Amazon probably pulled
in almost a billion dollars. Not bad for a random Tuesday in July.
No, I mean, this has become a big event. I mean, it started out a couple of years ago,
is kind of just, well, it's the 20th anniversary of Amazon. Let's have some special discounts
for Prime members. And by the way, it didn't go that well.
No, not initially. I mean, I remember the site being down for several hours during
that first time they did it. But it just became this, it's now become this phenomenon.
And of course, for Amazon, it really is about getting people to join Prime, experience what
they can get on Prime. And for me, I'm really watching how people are kind of interacting with
Amazon Fresh and sort of the household staples part of the business. Because I think the more
So, Amazon's goal is to get more and more people into that, realizing that that's how they
can steal a lot more market share from grocery stores, et cetera.
Yeah, I remember in previous years, other retailers, I think Walmart and Target included,
they tried to have their own competition against Prime Day on Prime Day to try to steal some
of that share from Amazon.
And that didn't really happen this year, but I'm just thinking back to the first quarter
of this year where Walmart's online sales grew 69 percent.
Targets online sales grew 22 percent, which pales in comparison to what Walmart and Amazon
putting up. But I'll be curious to see what those online numbers look like for retailers
like Walmart and Target coming up.
Well, and again, you go back two years to when they first did this. As you said,
Maddie, the site was down. They got some criticism. I think it was fair in terms of a little
bit of bait and switch going on in terms of the products that they were promoting that sold
out very quickly, that sort of thing. But Jason, just in two years' time, as we should expect
with Jeff Bezos and his team, they've really got it down pat now. And you're really got it down
Pat now, and you look at what they're promoting this time around, it's very much the Echo.
And it really does telegraph where they see that device in people's homes and what it means
for Amazon's business.
Yeah, and the pace they're rolling out in new apps and skills for the Echo, it's very
impressive. I really feel like we're going to need to get an Echo show at our house just
to test it out for sheer selfless market research, Chris. So I may have to
I may have to buy one of those and come back and tell you how that thing works.
I do like the Echo owner house.
We have a dot as well.
It's just neat to see its functionality.
I think it will be, I think the Echo Show gives them the opportunity to probably incorporate
a bit more e-commerce.
I think that's maybe one of the hold-ups there in making purchases with the Echo.
You're not quite sure what exactly you're getting.
You can't sort of make that visual confirmation.
But I also think with Prime Day, it's really important to note that this is beyond just our domestic
economy.
It's very easy for us to kind of look at it from a U.S.
centric perspective. But really, I mean, this rolled out prime day, I think, to 13 countries this year.
That's right. And this is where I think the real opportunity for Amazon still exists. They're
investing so much in those international operations. And they're delivering those operating losses
today. But remember, 10 years ago, that's what it looked like here. So it's not too big of a leap
to think that in 10 years, they are going to have a very impressive global e-commerce infrastructure
an operation going that could reward shareholders for many, many years to come.
Right. Well, you could see, you know, as big as Prime Day was, maybe a billion dollars
in sales for Amazon, it's such as, it pales in comparison to Singles Day in China, which is
sort of an Alibaba phenomenon, you know, on November 11th every year, where they did 18 billion
in sales. And I'm just wondering if Jeff Bays was thinking himself, you know, Prime Day eventually,
I think could be this worldwide thing as you're saying, where we pull in tens of billions of
dollars in sales. And this is just the real start of it.
It's a nice lever to pull.
In some ways, probably not as surprising that they had this big a day when you think about
what Target did.
Just in terms of retail, David, I mean, Target's news this week, the guidance raised, the subsequent
pop in Target stock.
It was almost like a sigh of relief on Wall Street because for all of Amazon success, I mean, Target
is still a big player in this space, as is Walmart, as is cost.
So you look at Costco's recent June sales, Target raising their guidance.
Amazon has a bright future, but these bricks and mortar power players are doing pretty well.
I think Walmart especially, they've made numerous acquisitions, including Jet.com, and then Bonobos,
another fashion retailer, online retailer that they bought within the past couple months.
And as I mentioned, their online sales in the latest quarter up almost 70%, which is phenomenal.
and they have almost the same amount of items on their platform online compared to Amazon.
So they are making a lot of progress there.
Target is more treading water, I think, even though their sales were up 22, online sales
were up 22 percent in the latest quarter, compared to what Amazon and Walmart are dealing
with, Target's going to have to step up their game.
And I think there's still a lot of questions there, even with their slightly raised
guidance for this upcoming quarter.
Yeah, I was going to say, targets, they're all excited about their restock program,
which is essentially next day delivery service that they're rolling out or test
testing in Minneapolis, which I just think is, I mean, compare that to Prime where it's already
you can get same-day delivery in 5,000 cities around the world.
And here's Target, where we're testing next day delivery in Minneapolis.
Revolutionary.
We're excited about what this could do for our business.
You guys are 10 years behind by now.
They get a lot of snow up there, though.
You can't expect everything the same day.
That's true.
David, you and I were talking before we started taping today.
I mean, one of the ripple effects, and we don't really get into it all that much on this show,
So you think about commercial real estate. When we look at the big retail trends and a lot
of well-known retailers, closing stores, and in some cases going out of business, in some
cases, all of a sudden that commercial real estate becomes really cheap. And you mentioned
something that really surprised me, which is that T-Mobile, of all companies, has opened a thousand
locations so far in 2017? How have they done that? Apparently, they're finding someplace
to put those stores. Maybe they're filling up this space that's opening up as all these
other retailers and restaurants close up shop. But yeah, they initially had guided to open
a thousand new stores total in 2017. And this is coming off a base of 2,000 stores at the end of last
year. But they hit that mark earlier this week. So by the middle of the year, essentially,
they reach their mark. And now they're saying, oh, we're going to open 1,500 total stores this
year. So their existing store base now covers about two-thirds of the U.S., and now this will
really help boost their store coverage outside of the main metro areas in the country.
And this is a company that has, over the past four years, each quarter they've added at
least one million new customers, just stealing customers from Verizon and AT&T, bit by bit.
And they also have a record low churn rate as of the latest quarter.
So a lot of things going well for T-Mobile.
They are just in full-on expansion mode.
Rough week for recent IPO, SNAP.
The company got a couple of analysts downgrades and shares of SNAPs.
fell more than 10 percent, maybe even worse than the downgrades. A professor at NYU's
Stern School of Business said that investing in SNAP is something no responsible person should
do, and he compared it to drunk driving. Wow. I mean, I'm not looking to buy shares a SNAP,
David, but that seems like a gratuitous shot.
It's a strong statement, but I don't know if I disagree with him at this point.
Of those downgrades, I think the one that stings the most for SNAP is Morgan Stanley downgrading
the company, Morgan Stanley was one of the lead underwriters on the IPO. This was a company
that really brought SNAP public. And then within a few months, they're basically saying,
yeah, this story isn't as great as we thought. We're going to downgrade the stock. We think
it should go down. So that's not a good situation for SNAP to be in, especially just a few
months after the IPO. And something else to keep in mind is the lockup expiration period
happens on July 29th. And that's essentially the time when early investors and insiders in the
company will finally be able to sell their shares for the first time since the IPO. So,
you might see a lot of people cashing out, especially now that the stock is down a little bit.
Maybe they want to get out before it goes down any lower.
Speaking to Ron Gross about that Morgan Stanley downgrade earlier this week, he made some
good points about the fact that you just rarely see that from a bank that just recently
led the underwriting of a new company. And so you tend to have to believe that a little more
if Morgan Stanley is willing to say, we're making this call, even though we just led the IPO a few
months earlier. So dire lookout for snap there.
Hey, if you own a small shop or a restaurant, Visa would like to offer you a bribe.
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and David Kretzman. Before we get to the more news from the week, we've got a full gathering
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The Emmy nominations came out this week, HBO leading all the networks with 110 nominations. Not a big surprise because guys,
That makes the 17th year in a row that HBO has earned the most Emmy nominations.
But the lead is shrinking. Netflix, which just a few years ago had zero nominations,
came in second with the total of 91.
Jason, Time Warner, HBO, Netflix, they invest in their programming, and it is paying off.
Absolutely. I think it's a matter of when and not if we see Netflix take that number one spot at some point.
And I mean, don't dismiss Amazon either.
I mean, I think I've been more surprised, honestly, by Amazon's progress in that realm as opposed to Netflix or HBO.
I mean, because they picked it up so quickly.
But with that said, I think that, I mean, this all boils down to creative freedom, right?
It's something that network TV has really got to figure out how to deal with.
And I don't know that there really is a simple answer because these Amazon, Netflix, HBO, these streaming services,
This is even Hulu.
I mean, they have the opportunity really to give these artists, these producers, these
actors creative freedom to kind of do whatever they want, and they're not really hamstrung
by language, sex, violence, whatever it may be.
And so I think that, yeah, kind of liken that to a serious XM, but just that you're
able to get more of perhaps what you want.
And hey, if you don't like it, you just change the channel.
And we can't do that really with traditional network television today.
So I suspect we'll keep on seeing this happen.
It's certainly playing out, I think, in the movie theater in that I'm just not really very compelled
by movies that are out there today.
I think you're seeing a lot of reboots of old franchises that are not that good.
You're seeing sequels that are really kind of pointless, because I think that Hollywood
at this point has really run out of answers because there is so much great stuff on TV.
So there's more content than I think anybody really has time to consume.
And I think the flip side, the potential rub here, it's a lot of great content spread across
a number of different networks. And so you have to kind of wonder at some point, when do
we reach parity between the old cable bundle and now sort of your a la carte collection
of channels that you like?
Yeah.
Something Jason said earlier, some of the constraints that the networks and the traditional
cable channels face with programming, I think one of the constraints you didn't mention
was just the episode time. I remember several years ago when House of Cards first came
out. And I feel like I read an interview where directors, producers were talking about the
projects they have coming from Netflix. And one is, one of the ones.
One of the things they love is the fact that you don't have to be constrained by, I have
to have a 42-minute episode for an hour long because they've got to factor in commercials and
all these things where, I mean, we watch shows on Netflix now where one episode can be
47 minutes, and one episode can be 67 minutes, and you'll find an episode with 30 minutes,
and it's all in the same season.
I just think that alone has been so disruptive to kind of traditional programming and content.
I think it's really easy to kind of jump on that train and be concerned about how much
it costs to make all this content, but really at the end of the day, you know,
It doesn't matter if you have a pretty big, loyal subscriber base, and you're just charging a pretty nominal fee.
Like, Netflix, you can go anywhere from like $10 to $15, HBO something like $15.
You're targeting that point where people aren't really going to sit there and fuss about that as long as they feel like they're getting value out of it.
And I think that Netflix's big point of success to this point is it is just a phenomenal value for the price you pay.
So I think they even still have some room to run on the pricing side there as well.
On Wednesday, Visa unveiled a challenge to small businesses in the United States. Visa wants
them to convert to a cashless payment model and is offering an incentive of $10,000 to up to 50
different businesses. David, we talk about businesses competing against one another.
Visa appears to be competing with cash.
Visa is declaring a war on cash with this move.
Cash is still the most widely used payment form in the U.S. with about a third of transactions
in the U.S. being done in cash. So Visa obviously wants debit cards and credit cards to be a bigger
percentage and eventually the entire piece of the pie. So cash and check transactions total
worldwide is $17 trillion as of last year. That was up a little bit. So there's a huge market
opportunity there for Visa. And I actually wonder if this is that great of a deal for the 50
restaurants or food vendors who will eventually get that $10,000 check from Visa. I wonder if
they deliver it by credit card or check. But I mean, credit card interchange fees, which is essentially
the cut that Visa takes of each transaction that's made, it's about 2% of each transaction. I think
if you're a vendor getting paid $10,000 to upgrade your payment technology and market the program,
I don't know if that's all that great of a tradeoff when you're still paying that 2% fee to Visa.
And if we lived in a cashless society, we wouldn't have stories like this one.
Also on Wednesday at an ATM in Corpus Christi, Texas, customers weren't just getting their money during their transactions.
They got their cash, their receipts, and a desperate plea for help.
Out of the receipt slot came a handwritten note that read,
Please help, I'm stuck in here, and I don't have my phone.
Please call my boss.
Some customers thought it was a joke and walked away.
But two hours later, when police finally arrived on the scene,
they discovered that a repairman had accidentally locked himself into a small room connected to the
ATM. He did not have his phone or his keycard. He did, however, have his pen. Let's go to our man
behind the glass on this one. Steve Brodo, we have just a few seconds left. You saw this story.
What was your reaction when you read this?
Awesome. I mean, you're stuck in a place with infinite money. It doesn't get much better than that.
You think he pocketed a few bills on his way out the door?
I hope so.
All right. Up next, a look ahead to earning season. And we're going to do a little bargain hunting for
stocks. Stay right here. You're listening.
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Welcome back to Motley Full Money, Chris Hill, here in studio with Jason Moser, Matt Argusinger,
and David Kretzman.
Earning season kicks off in earnest next week.
Let's just go around the table.
And David Kretzman, I'll just start with you.
It can be a company.
It can be an industry.
As we head into this earning season, are you most curious about?
Well, this isn't directly related to earnings, but it's something I'm paying attention to closely.
Just this week, an FDA panel unanimously recommended that the FDA approved the first ever gene therapy treatment.
So this is a treatment that genetically alters a cancer patient cells to fight the cancer.
In other words, a living drug.
And this was a test that was done under Novartis, one of their drugs.
And in the study starting in 2015, 63 patients, this was a type of leukemia, received treatment.
And 52 of them are about 80% are in remission now.
So just a phenomenal number.
So for gene therapy companies like Juno-therapeutics or Bluebird Bio, they're on the
smaller end of the spectrum trying to develop that technology within the biotech space.
I'll be paying close attention there.
Interesting. Jason?
Yeah, so Twitter earnings come out on July 27th.
And this has been one we've been following closely in MDP.
We still own shares there.
There seems to be at least a growing shift in the view on how these guys are doing.
And there was a very interesting data point I ran across here recently.
And recent e-marketer data showed that Twitter actually tied with Instagram as the number
one digital platform for influencing Americans' purchase decisions.
I mean, that kind of made me do a little bit of a double-take there.
Essentially, Twitter as an influential platform.
And I think that probably is more success on the brand awareness side, just because of
the nature of the platform.
But, I mean, it seems like Jack Dorsey is doing what he said he was going to do when he returned.
making more measured decisions that are geared more towards the long-term success of the business
versus just cowering to Wall Street's demands for immediate profitability and user growth
and whatnot. I think they're figuring out new ways to sort of define success for the business.
So, I mean, this could be a situation where patience really does pay off, because I think
we've seen very clear that Twitter is not a platform that's just going to be able to go away
or even be disrupted a la Facebook versus Snapchat. Like I said, we still own shares in MDP. We're
We're still optimistic. I haven't sold any of my shares. And I'm usually a glass-half-empty
guy, Chris. So take that for what it's worth.
Is there any talk that you've seen of Twitter being an acquisition target? Because it
seemed like a year or two ago, the drumbeat for that was pretty loud.
Yeah, I think the drum beat was a little bit louder because that was seemingly the only
light at the end of the tunnel. And now that there seems to be at least some more light
at the end of the tunnel, I think it becomes a more attractive acquisition target. If you're
you know that what you're buying is not in a state of disrepair. And it seems like at least
Twitter is not in that state of disrepair, which certainly could make it a more attractive
target. Honestly, I'd love to be able to see these guys just continue to go their own way.
But I suspect if we see a good quarter here, if they play at the rest of 2017 in a positive
way, I imagine that drumbeat will only grow louder.
All right, Mandy, what are you watching this earning season?
Well, it's just as we watch the Amazon tentacles kind of keep extending into various parts
of the...
That's a good visual, by the economy.
Yeah, I know.
But I mentioned, I guess, about a month ago on the radio show, looking at the auto parts retailers.
And I have to say, looking at AutoZone, for example, advanced auto parts, O'Reilly automotive,
these have been wonderful investments for decades now.
But I have to say, I think there are some serious challenges ahead.
If you look at the near term, do-it-yourself mechanics, and even auto shops now, I
I had someone, a follower on Twitter, tweet me, who runs an auto shop, who's buying a lot
of his stuff on Amazon now.
And so those sales are moving online.
And then in the medium term, you have the sort of shared driving, ride-hailing phenomenon.
I think that's going to take a lot of private cars off the road.
And of course, in the very long term, electric vehicles, less moving parts, and maybe autonomous
driving, hopefully less collisions and accidents requiring auto repair.
So there's just this big, huge amount of challenges ahead, even in the near term for these
guys.
Full disclosure, I'm actually short AutoZone and advanced auto parts in my own portfolio.
So I'll say that right here.
But I just think this is one I want to watch.
We're kind of on the cusp of some major disruption for these players.
And so now, earning season and beyond, I'm going to be watching them.
Well, and it's interesting.
And this is something we've talked about before with other industries, which is the idea that
a business doesn't need to lose all of their customers to be in significant trouble.
And in the case of the auto parts dealers, if just a business, you know, they're not going to be in significant trouble.
a handful in terms of percentages of auto body shops, small independent shops, decide, you know
what?
I know I've been buying directly from them, but I'm going to take 20 percent of my business
and I'm going to take it elsewhere, whether it's Walmart withjet.com or I can get these
supplies on Amazon or something. It really doesn't take that much.
Absolutely right.
Disruption happens at the margin. I think we always think, well, these businesses are just going
to go away. Well, then I can't go away, but if a little, you know, a good, significant
part of their business is going away, then they're not going to be great investment.
investments, and that's how disruption happens.
So, the market has had this amazing run for the last seven or eight years, which is great
in general for anyone who's been invested in the markets.
What this means in the business media is that speaking of drum beats, as we just were a moment
ago, the doom and gloom drum beats are just getting louder.
And maybe it's just me because I spend a lot of time consuming business media, but it seems
like I can't go 24 hours without someone coming out and saying, oh, it's all.
all going to end. This is just like 2000 all over again, that sort of thing. I don't believe
that, but I do believe that even though the market in general has had a great run, there
have got to be some areas of value out there, whether it's an industry or a stock. And
if we could just, I don't know, go around the table, David, is there something that you
see out there that you look at and you think, boy, this really isn't that pricey?
Yeah, I'm looking at retailers and restaurants. I think obviously Amazon is causing
a lot of disruption and chaos, especially in the retail.
Because of the tentacles?
The tentacles.
You can't ignore the tentacles.
That's just such a solid visual.
But if I can find solid operators that have a consistent record of generating free cash flow
or growing over time, have experienced leadership, then I'm pretty interested.
So Cheesecake Factory is one that I'm keeping an eye on, tractor supply company.
And Matt, I'll disagree with Matt here.
I think AutoZone is actually pretty compelling right now.
I actually bought shares recently in my own portfolio.
Oh, all right.
Autisone is trading at the lowest valuation since the great.
recession. I think people are placing a lot of blame on the company's struggles. In reality,
it's just, I think, warm weather that's causing it. And I think people are jumping the gun
a little bit on AutoZone. So we'll see what happens.
Jason, before we get to whatever you think is undervalue, do you want to cast a deciding vote
when it comes to Autosone? You can stay on the sidelines.
I'm going to defer my decision until a later date.
Smart man.
Yeah. So I just run straight over to my MDP best buy an analyst for this because it's really hard to
pinpoint anything in this market that is actually undervalued. But with that said, I think
there are companies out there that present some interesting opportunities. And I think really
when you run into a frothy market like this, you want to really focus on quality names.
Facebook is one that, whether you use it or not, the fact of the matter is, they have
2 billion users now, and the scale to pretty much do whatever they want. And interestingly,
Instagram, I think, is becoming the new Facebook. I mean, I'm seeing this through my kids and
their friends. They're not interested in Facebook profile, but boy, they're all signing up for
Instagram. And really, that is just fine by them because Facebook owns Instagram. So I think
with a young founder in Mark Zuckerberg, who seems like a genuinely good and grounded person,
I think the world's going to benefit from having him. And he seems to have a lot of good ideas
and where he can take this business over the long run. And then another one we have there is
Nike. And I think that Nike is just a global sports behemoth. Everybody knows the
brand. The move to direct to consumer is really, it's happening faster than I think
Dick's sporting goods and Foot Locker would like. But companies like Nike are benefiting.
They brought in $2 billion in sales last year through their own apps alone. And we think
in MDP it's a pretty low-risk way to get to some 8% annualized returns of the coming
five years. So, Facebook and Nike, a couple of ideas.
Mattie?
Like Jason, I'm giving a nod to our MDP Best Buy list. And on there is Disney. And I've had
it on there for a couple months now.
I just, you know, a company of Disney's quality, of its extension across the world in terms
of entertainment branding and all kinds of things like that.
I know investors seem to be just hung up on the network's business and just how that's
kind of flattening out and the ESPN subscriber losses.
I get all that.
But I mean, just think of Disney as just this entertainment IP powerhouse that can find all
kinds of ways to deliver that entertainment in whatever form.
And then I think you look at a company that's trading for around 18 times earnings, roughly
a market multiple for a company of Disney's quality. And I think that, to me, screams undervalue.
Well, and it's interesting to agree, because when you look at what, not just ESPN, but all the
networks that have any kind of sports rights deals, they've all paid exorbitant fees, whether
it's for the NBA, the NFL, whatever it is. They're all paying up, and they're all paying
increasing amounts. But just like we've seen with individual sports teams that go through sort of ebbs
and flows with their own budgets, where you can just look at your favorite sports team and
think, you know what? There was a point in time when they were just handing out checks to
athletes like they were candy, and then they sort of ratchet that back. I sort of feel like,
yeah, it's a tough time right now from a budget standpoint for ESPN, for Fox Sports One, for
CBS, all of them. But I feel like the next round of sports rights contracts, I feel like there's
a good chance that's going to be corrected.
Yeah. I think the world gets a little more rational about it.
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Our email address is Radio at Fool.com from Brian Lumadu in Tampa, Florida.
Brian writes,
You've talked about Mercado Libre on numerous occasions.
Could you ask your expert?
to weigh in more specifically on why they think Amazon won't go south and eat their lunch.
Amazon is such a juggernaut on all other fronts.
How could Mercado Libre have a big enough moat to defend against a full frontal assault from Jeff Bezos?
I love that phrase.
I think if the last book about Amazon was the Everything Store, I think the next book about Amazon is going to be called full frontal assault.
Not tentacles? Not big, massive tentacles?
You know, that'll be the cover art on full-froftainting.
frontal assault. It'll be an octopus with tentacles and Bezos' face on it. You're welcome,
author, out there. What do you think, Maddie? You're a Macado Libre fan. It's a legitimate
question. Absolutely. I think Brian's nailed my key primary risk factor for Mercado Libre,
which is Amazon. For Macaulah Libre to hold its leadership position to maintain its moat. You
have to kind of look at what they have right now, where they're going. So 180 million registered
users. They're on pace this year to have 10 million unique sellers and over 30 million
unique buyers. That's a sizable network that Amazon hasn't come anywhere near. Now, Amazon
is making inroads in Mexico, but they've kind of left Brazil, Chile, Argentina, some of
Mercali-Libri's other markets alone for now, which is good. And I think if you look at
Mercali-Libre, they have twice the amount of user traffic in Brazil as the next competitor.
Amazon isn't even in the top 10. So they're the it e-commerce company in Brazil, which is the biggest market,
the biggest economy, biggest internet market in Latin America. I think what McCauleybury is doing
to follow the Amazon Playbook, you got investing in payments, shipping, even fulfillment now. They're
even looking at it maybe a membership business. Those are the kind of things that endear users
to the platform. They're providing a good experience. And I have to say that Amazon is really
focusing on India right now. That's kind of their big emerging market that they're putting all their capital
in. That's where kind of JetPais is having the full frontal salt right now. And so that makes
me a little confident that maybe Brazil, Argentina are kind of a little bit off the radar,
and maybe they're not investing as much there. And that just gives Mercado Libre more time
to establish a bigger moat that maybe Amazon couldn't eventually cross. So fingers crossed
for me as a Mercado Libre shareholder for sure.
Yeah, Amazon's been competing against Mercado Libre in Mexico for about three years now.
And over the past five quarters, Mercado Libre's revenue in Mexico has actually accelerated each
quarter. So even as Amazon has been investing more in Mexico, including launching Prime Amazon
or Prime Mexico in March. Mercado Libre is still turning out accelerating results there.
That'll be a key thing to watch now that Prime has launched in Mexico. How does Mercado Libre hold up?
And I think in many ways, Mexico and Latin America in general, e-commerce is still relatively young and new.
And so even Amazon coming in might actually help Mercado Libre in the short term.
It just kind of gets people interested in buying things online and being more confident about doing it.
Question from Charlie Fox in Arizona.
I'm thinking about picking up more shares of Diplomat Pharmacy. I've held through the drops.
I'm asking if doubling down is a good idea here. Jason, we can broaden this beyond diplomat
pharmacy because, as we say from time to time, we can't get personal advice. But I am intrigued
by just this idea and sort of your gut reaction when, as has probably happened at some
point in your investing life, you buy shares of a company, you feel good about it. It drops
25, 40 percent, something like that. What is your gut reaction in those situations? Is it to double
down? Well, maybe not the gut reaction. I mean, it is one of the things that comes into play,
I think, though. And really, I mean, I'll use a very recent example because I have a modest
investment in TripAdvisor, and it's down probably, I think, about 45% or so from my call
spaces. And so I've been batting that idea around in my head a lot. And I think the key for
this is to always look at it from the perspective of the market knows more than you do. Okay?
let's throw that out the window immediately and figure, okay, the market's on to something.
What the big difference between what perhaps we as individual investors and the market can
apply? Here's our timeline. The longer the timeline, the more you can kind of let the story play
out. So with TripAdvisor, for example, I'm looking at it from the perspective of, can I
identify why I think this is still a good investment? And for me, I mean, not only is it a good
brand, and not only does it provide a valuable service, but when we look at the actual metrics
of the business. I mean, it's still a platform that's very engaged, growing users. The metric
that really matters, their revenue per hotel user or hotel shopper, that is recovering nicely
as well. So I see these metrics that indicate to me this is not a platform in peril. It's
not a platform in decline. But perhaps the market is a little bit upset with sort of some near-term
promises they made in this instant booking initiative that hadn't really played out the way
they thought it would. So I think the key, if you want to think about doubling down on a stock,
Go dig in, figure out a little bit more, learn more about the business, and really identify
why you think that business is going to be okay and why it's going to be able to continue
to perform well. Because chances are, it's going to take a little bit of time for it to play
out. But if you can identify, they can be very rewarding in the end.
All right, let's get to the stocks on our radar this week, and our man, Steve Brodow,
will hit you with a question from the other side of the glass. David Kretzman, you're up first.
What are you looking at?
I'm looking at Camping World Holdings, ticker CWH. And RV sales in the U.S. are actually hitting
the highest level they've ever been at in about 40 years. So as more baby boomers are retiring
and as younger people are trying to travel more while they are still young and working,
RV sales are continuing to increase each year here in the U.S. And Camping World Holdings
is essentially the largest national retailer of RVs. They have 130 stores in 36 states. And they also
own the Good Sam Club, which you can think of as the RV Industries membership club or kind of the
AAA for RVs. And they have 1.7 million.
million members in the Good Sam Club, which provides some high margin recurring revenue for
the company and keeps that relationship with their customers over time.
There's a lot of mom and pop operators in this space.
So what Camping World can do is they can acquire those mom and pop brands, rebrand them, and
build this national RV brand under Camping World.
So a lot of things to like here.
It's a small cap, but I'm keeping a close eye on it.
Steve, question about Camping World Holdings?
I'm legitimately fascinated with RVs.
I have looked at them online.
It's an interesting, interesting, interesting place.
to look, by the way. But would you go with Fifth Wheel or a motorhome? Which are you going with?
Man, I am not an expert there, Steve. It depends on your respective circumstances.
I'm going Fifth Wheel. That sounds good.
Jason Moser, what are you looking at?
Yeah, looking at Wayfair earnings coming out on August 8. The ticker is W. I've been covering this business since an IPO back in 2014. It continues to perform, and all of the metrics seem to really be going in the right direction. They're growing sales. They're growing users. Margins are actually pretty steady. The big
metric there is the percentage of orders from repeat customers, and that continues to
appreciate over time. So then it's going to be a question of whether they can pull back on
sort of that acquisition at some point and really unleash some profitability in the business.
There was a report of the Amazon jumping into this line of work a month or so ago.
It doesn't seem like that may be the Wayfair killer others thought it might be, but very
interested in their quarter here.
Steve, question about Wayfair?
Is there a membership model in place here?
Maybe like Restoration Hardware has done, where you become a member, you get a discount,
that kind of thing?
There is not yet. I do believe they have something in the mix there to try to develop a little bit more loyalty.
Many Argusinger, what are you looking at?
Sure. One stock recently on my watch list is Live Nation Entertainment. The ticker is L-Y-V.
Yes, music streaming's been around for years. We talk about things like virtual reality,
but in my mind, you just can't replace the experience of going to a live concert or sports event.
Live Nation's largest events promotion ticketing company in the world.
Last year, they promoted 26,300 events. Seventy-1 million fans came in a time.
attended. They also own Ticketmaster, by the way, which is the largest ticket company in the world,
480 million tickets last year. I just think there's a lot going for this company, and I like
the idea of a live events business in this Amazon disruptive world. We're kind of living in now.
Steve, question about Live Nation Entertainment?
It's a question for Matt. What's the best concert you've ever attended?
Oh my gosh. I'm going to go old school. I went to Bruce Springsteen about 15 years ago,
right out of college. It was one of the best times I've ever had.
Three stocks. You've got one you want to add to your watch list?
I'm going camping, man. All right.
I'm buying an RV. Let's do it.
Sounds good, Steve.
All right, guys. Thanks for being here.
That's going to do it for this week's edition of Motley Full Money.
Our engineer, Steve Brodo.
Our producer is Mac Career.
I'm Chris Hell.
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