Motley Fool Money - Video Stars, Academy Awards, and 1 Sleepy IPO

Episode Date: February 7, 2020

Alphabet breaks out its YouTube revenue for the first time. Activision Blizzard scores with “Call of Duty: Mobile”. Casper’s IPO turns into a snoozefest. Pinterest pops. And Chipotle serves up s...trong growth. Analysts Andy Cross, Ron Gross, and Jason Moser discuss those stories and weigh in on the latest from Disney, Take-Two Interactive, Twitter, and Yum! Brands. And we share three stocks on our radar: Empire State Realty Trust, Limelight Networks, and Moody’s. Plus, corporate governance expert and film critic Nell Minow talks diversity in the boardroom and makes predictions for this year’s Academy Awards. (To get 50% off our Stock Advisor service, go to http://RadarStocks.fool.com.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:21 That's why they call it money. From Fool Global Headquarters, this is Motley Fool Money. It's a Motley Full Money radio show. I'm Chris Hale joining me in studio this week's senior analyst Jason Moser, Andy Cross, And Ron Gross, good to see you, as always, gentlemen. Hey, Chris. We've got the latest headlines from Wall Street. We will get an Oscar preview from our guest, Nell Minow.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And as always, we've got a few stocks on our radar. But we begin with another one of the tech giants. Alphabet's fourth quarter profits came in higher than expected. Shares of Google's parent company up a little bit this week, Jason. Overall revenue was light, but there was a lot to like in this quarter. Yeah, there was plenty to like. I think this was a quarter where they released the, you know, they released the, The YouTube and cloud revenue data for the first time ever.
Starting point is 00:01:14 We were talking in production here. I think, Andy, you were saying it was something eventually was going to have to happen. Yeah, yeah. They probably had to do that. Regardless, I think that's probably the clearest sign yet, to me at least, they have no intentions of spinning these businesses out from Google Alphabet anytime soon. I think it really helps offset what is probably one of the bigger points of scrutiny that we hold on the company, quarter-in-core out on the other bets segment.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I mean, let's look at YouTube, reached $15 billion in ad revenue in 2019. That grew 36% from a year ago. They also ended 2019 at a $3 billion annual run rate in YouTube subscription revenue and other non-advertising revenue. So, really, that's on top of the advertising revenue there. That just shows you how big YouTube has gotten at this point. Google Cloud, still performing very well, ended at a $10 billion run rate for the year. I'll put that in context. The Amazon Web Services chalked up about $10 billion for the cloud.
Starting point is 00:02:08 quarter. So, there's still plenty of share to capture there. But the good news is that Google Cloud is actually growing at a faster rate than AWS. So they are picking up share, as Ron was talking about last week. But going back to the date on YouTube and the cloud services, they strike a little bit of a defensive tone, it seems, quarter in and quarter out on the call with the other bet segment. And that's for good reason. It brought in $659 million in revenue for the year, and it lost better than $4.5 billion. So there's clearly a disconnect there. So I understand their defensive tone. But when you now have a light to shine on YouTube and Google Cloud, I think that really takes away from focusing so much on the money that they're losing in the other
Starting point is 00:02:53 bet segment. Yeah, with Sundar Pichai, now the CEO of Alphabet, who was a former CEO of Google, he clearly had interest in and knowledge of what was going on with YouTube. So they eventually would have had to disclose the revenues for YouTube. Still, very impressive, $15 billion run rate of revenue. It seemed the analysts were expecting a little bit higher, so I think there was some good conversation about, wow, maybe YouTube revenue wasn't so high, but I agree with you, Jason, on the subscription and other revenues around YouTube. That's pretty exciting. Can we start a campaign to change the name back to Google? I would much rather just call it. I mean, I'm kind of had it.
Starting point is 00:03:28 You know what we've not seen a lot in the headlines? Remember, they bought a little company called Fitbit recently, and while that act was position has not closed. It's going to close. And you have to wonder what exactly they plan to do with it. They're convinced it's going to add strong capabilities, not only in wearables for them, but it's going to advance their vision of ambient computing for the Android ecosystem. So ultimately, we're just going to be walking computers, right? And they feel like Fitbit has a role to serve there. So it'll be very interesting to see over time how they work Fitbit into their business model. But I think there is definitely potential there.
Starting point is 00:04:05 There's clearly a market out there for folks who want to wear these devices on their wrist, whether it's a watch or a Fitbit or something else. I say we changed the whole company named to Fitbit. Well, there you go. Problem solved. Disney off to a solid start in its new fiscal year. The first quarter report was highlighted by the number of subscribers to Disney Plus, Ron. Very impressive.
Starting point is 00:04:25 28.6 million Disney Plus subscribers, significant increase from the 10 million that they had the day after it was launched in the U.S. and Canada. It took Netflix about two years to cross that 28 million mark. So nice job, guys, over there. Now has about half the subscribers that Netflix has domestically. We saw good subscriber growth at both Hulu and ESPN as well. Subscribers at Hulu are about 30 million, ESPN plus 7.5 million. So really strong start there. Other divisions, though, are doing really well. Overall revenue for the company up 36 percent. The parks and experience division up 9%. Studio entertainment really strong on the rise of, on the heels of the
Starting point is 00:05:09 rise of Skywalker and Frozen 2. Disney's media unit up 23%. Everybody doing really well. The unit that houses the streaming business reported a loss, which you would expect, because they're spending lots of money to get this done. Yeah, and they're going to continue to have a loss for at least a few years going out. But that's the real value of what Disney brings, unlike any other company, well, certainly other than Netflix, the value of having that diversified revenue stream with all the different businesses, they can price Disney. I mean, they priced as exceptionally low, Disney Plus, exceptionally low. That was obviously a huge driver of so many of the subscribers, as well as the content and the brand, of course. But the ability for them to do this and the
Starting point is 00:05:50 fact that they can, because they have the other diversified revenue streams, is really an impressive part to the Disney stock story. Yeah, don't sleep on Baby Yoda and Megalorian, because it is coming back. and it's extremely popular. It is. It is. And I mean, I think we hear a lot of people talking about the price being so low and when are they going to raise prices. And I actually think it's going to be a while before they raise prices.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And one of the reasons for that is because right now they don't have a lot of new content, right? I mean, they have a couple of series. I mean, all of that Disney content is great. But one thing I will say about that platform, they need to come out with some fresh new content in order to keep people engaged. Until they do that, I think we'll be able to overhaul. look at because I'm only paying six bucks a month for it. But it all leads me to believe that
Starting point is 00:06:35 I don't know that they're going to be raising prices on it anytime soon. I would look over the next couple of years for them to build that content library out with new and engaging content, which they just don't really have a lot of right now. I probably should note that Shanghai Disney and Hong Kong Disney have been affected by the coronavirus. There will be a rather significant economic impact to that. It will be short-term hopefully and shouldn't affect the thesis of owning Disney. Shares of Pinterest up nearly 20% this week. Fourth quarter profits came in much higher than expected. And, Andy, a strong quarter for Pinterest, but it also seems like they could use a couple more of these.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Yeah, my radar stock from last week, the third quarter was not nearly as impressive, and they guided for the rest of the year not to be that great. And that's reversed now. And the stock, as you mentioned, Chris, had a really nice jump after the earnings came out. A really nice quarter. Revenue is up 46%. International revenues were up more than two. 200%. About three quarters of the users are international, but from the, on a revenue per user basis, international is far smaller than the U.S. is in general. U.S. revenues up 36%. Monthly active users for the quarter as total up 26%. That was an acceleration off the quarter of last year. The growth there, mostly on the international side, up 35%. So the revenue per user is one that
Starting point is 00:07:55 I continue to watch. That for the quarter was at $1.22. That was up 15%. International, very strong, but the international is only a fraction of the US. US is at $4 per user. International is only at about 21 cents. So obviously a lot of interest and a lot of, can they continue to monetize their entire platform, Pinterest's entire platform, but really across the 335 million users they have with so many being international, can they continue to monetize the international asset they have? And if they can, then the stock's going to do pretty well of the next five.
Starting point is 00:08:29 years. Pinterest is a $15 billion company. There was a stretch of time where Pinterest looked like an attractive enough business, but not a dominant enough business, that it was a potential acquisition target. Fifteen billion, though, it kind of seems like it's moving out of the range where a big tech company, an Alphabet or someone else, would come in and try to buy them. They have a really interesting platform because it's advertising driven, although they are pushing more and more towards more direct-to-consumer revenues.
Starting point is 00:08:56 going to be launching this verified merchant program so you can buy directly from trusted brands. Jason, they have an oncoming, augmented reality business that the service that people can try on, like, say, makeup, for example, and see how they look. So they're growing this very visual platform, and it's very impressive, but they really have to monetize it. But I think generally, someone could still look at this business and say, hey, at the right price, that might be an interesting acquisition if they can monetize that. Perhaps the newly named Fitbit would be an employer. Of all of the social platforms, though, the data out there is pretty clear.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Pinterest is the one that impacts consumer behavior. People actually make purchasing decisions based on Pinterest more so than any of the other platforms, which is why. I mean, I'm not surprised that it's grown the way it has. It seems to me like it would be an attractive acquisition target more so than just some of these social plays that are just ad plays, you know? Two video game companies reporting on Friday, Activision Blizzard's fourth quarter profits came in higher than expected, pushing the stock to a 52-week high, but Take-2 Interactive
Starting point is 00:10:00 falling 10% on Friday after a rough third-quarter report. Although, to be fair, Ron, take-2 interactive had a tough comp when you think about just how big this quarter was a year ago. For sure. Let's take them one at a time. Activision, as you say, much better than expected revenue and profits, although they were down from this time last year, but they were still much better than expected on the heels of huge success of Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, of Duty mobile installs exceeded 150 million. The company now has 400 million total monthly active users, which is up 15 percent year over year. Really impressive. Guidance was fine. I'm guessing they're being conservative here on purpose, because these businesses ebb and
Starting point is 00:10:43 flow with kind of the blockbuster releases. But it was fine. They increased their dividend 11 percent, pay a 2.65 percent dividend yield, which is a pretty nice dividend for a company in this business. Now, we pivot over to take two. Mist estimates for quarterly adjusted revenue. Strong competition, just from the likes of Activision Blizzard, Electronic Arts. They did come up against comps of Red Dead Redemption 2 last year. So revenue was actually down 25 percent, and earnings were down 9 percent. They narrowed their full-year forecast range. Investors never like to see that. And the creative force behind franchises such as Grand Theft Auto and Red Dead Red Dead Redemption is leaving the company. Another reason that investors
Starting point is 00:11:25 were not too happy. Coming up, I'd love to say we have a hot IPO. Can we interest you in a lukewarm IPO? Do us a favor and stick around anyway. This is Motley Full Money. Good night, sweetheart. Well, it's time to go. Welcome back to Motley Full Money. Chris Hill here in studio with Jason Moser, Andy Cross, and Ron Gross. Casper, the friendly mattress company, when public on Thursday at $12 a share. The stock ended its first day up more than 10%. But on Friday, fell below its IPO price. And Andy, this seems like the post-wework world that we are all living in. You guys heard of FinTech, Ad Tech. Welcome to Sleep Tech. This is a Casper trying to capitalize on what they call the sleep economy, but really, it's just kind of a snoo. Generally,
Starting point is 00:12:19 yeah, the price the IPO at $12 per share. That was actually much lower than the initial range, which was somewhere between $17 and $19 per share. The investment banks clearly didn't see the demand out there. It's an interesting concept because sleep is so important. We know more and more studies about that, but just the market has not seen the opportunity. Losses are building. They spend a ton of marketing.
Starting point is 00:12:42 They've spent more than $400 million over the last four years on marketing. Revenue growth is okay, 20-ish to 30, 40 percent somewhere along those lines. Gross profits. They're losing money, and you've got to think about the growth prospects and the competitive nature of that market, and it's a very tough spot. Investors don't seem to appreciate that, yes, it's a mattress, but it's in a box. Well, they appreciate it. Also, it's such a competitive space.
Starting point is 00:13:10 There are, I mean, literally probably hundreds of mattress companies out there, big competitors. They have 60 retail locations. Retail, not a great spot to be in right now. Twitter's fourth quarter report, just what the doctor ordered. Revenue came in higher than expected, and it was Twitter's biggest quarter ever for years of growth. Yeah, I mean, it was a good quarter. I was a little bit surprised at the market's reaction. It does feel like, to your point, we were talking about this earlier. It feels like we've seen this before, right?
Starting point is 00:13:40 We've heard this story before, and if you just look back to last quarter, I mean, the stock was hovering around $40. They came out with the earnings report where they had some concerns on their ad tech and guided down a little bit. And the stock got shellacked. And so this is essentially the opposite, right? It's the George Costanza quarter. The numbers are pretty good, monetizable, daily active usage, grew 21% year-over-a-year. And that number is accelerating over the past several quarters, which is great. 11% top-line growth, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Nothing right home about, but they made $3.5 billion for the year in sales and brought in just a little bit under $2 per share. So there's nothing wrong with that either. I just, you know, it feels like they need to do something more still, you know? Well, it's like we were saying about Pinterest. This is nice. Let's do it for a couple more quarters and then you'll really be cooking with gas. Yeah, and you know, they're calling for a 20% increase in expenses for the year and they're going to increase headcounts.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I wonder if they're not repeating some mistakes made in the past. We'll see there. But the fact of the matter is that Twitter does have really a very important audience from an information perspective. They have journalists, politicians, celebrities. I mean, that doesn't seem like it's going away. So figuring out a way to keep the platform engaging is going to matter. But I do feel like they have a little bit of a competitive position there and just the nature of the platform.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Shares of Chipotle down slightly this week, despite the fact that same store sales in the fourth quarter grew more than 13 percent, Andy. Any restaurant would kill for those gums. Absolutely. Brian Nicol was my CEO of the year from our end of the year special in 2019 and just continue to show why. He deserves such respect and his team, Jack Hartung, the CFO. Revenue up 18%. Chris, you mentioned that comparable store sale line up 13.4%. The eighth consecutive quarter of accelerating comp growth, transaction growth, was up 8%.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And they got some pricing and mixed help. That was up 5%. So really, continuing to get it done with operational excellence. They called that out on the call. And really, innovation. Digital sales growth was up 78%. And now accounts for 1 in 5 sales at Chipotle. and they're higher margins. So as they continue to push the innovation curve, Chipotle is really
Starting point is 00:15:51 seen in the results. So last fall, Brian Nicol was asked about breakfast, which has been a question for Chipotle for a couple of years now. He said, we have no plans to do this in 2020. This week, he said the same thing. But it also seems like they're ready to pull that lever whenever they need to. Yeah, they could. I don't think they really have to right now. I mean, they're innovating when they call what they call Chipotle lanes, which is the drive-through. They're going to open a bunch more of those this year. And they're just continuing to do. They're just continuing to to do what they need to do. Coming off a terrible problem with the health, they've just operated
Starting point is 00:16:24 really well, and they don't have to necessarily go to something that they don't feel comfortable. Maybe they've got one of those DEF con charts in the executive suites. Like, when comps hit 5% or lower, it's like, all right, everybody, we're getting ready to introduce breakfast. Well, and to Andy's point about the delivery lanes, that could be part of the master plan, right? If we're going to move the needle with breakfast, we're going to move it in a bigger way if we make it easy for people to just pick up their breakfast on their way to work or wherever they're going in the morning. And it may just be something they're rolling out in 2021, 2022.
Starting point is 00:16:57 You can only hope. Yum Brands ended its fiscal year, not with a bang, but a whimper. The parent company of KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut delivered a familiar story in the fourth quarter, Ron, namely that KFC and Taco Bell had positive same. store sales, and Pizza Hut did not. You put ketchup on bread, and that's what you get, Chris. It's not the best pizza, and the competition is pretty steep, not just from the likes of Domino's and Papa Johns, but from all the food delivery apps that now allow users to order
Starting point is 00:17:30 from a wide variety of restaurants, and Pizza Hut is really suffering in that regard. As you mentioned, KFC and Taco Bell are kind of doing better, so it can offset KFC comps up 3%, Taco Bell up 4. But perhaps it would be better to jettison Pizza Hut if they don't think they can turn this because it's been struggling for quite some time now. I was just going to ask that. I mean, it really seems like we've seen this story quarter after quarter. And this is America. A lot of people like pizza. There's a playbook here for them to turn it around. And if they can't, yeah, if I'm KFC or Taco Bell, I'm giving the stink guy to everybody's pizza because they're dragging my stock down.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah. If it's not going to be accretive to earnings, if it's going to consistently be a drag, then something's got to be done. All right. Jason Moser, Andy Cross, Ron Gross. We'll see you later in the show for stocks on our radar. The debate on Capitol Hill is heating up over SEC proposals that would impose new requirements on proxy advisory firms and make it harder to submit shareholder proposals. So what does all that mean for investors?
Starting point is 00:18:36 Up next, Nell Minow weighs in with her. her thoughts on the proxy battle, as well as her picks for the Academy Awards. Stay right here. You're listening to Motley Fool Money. Welcome back to Motley Full Money. I'm Chris Hill. We are days away from the Academy Awards. So for that, return to our favorite expert in the realm of corporate governance.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Nell Minow is the vice chair of Value Edge Advisors. She's also the film critic known as the movie mom. She joins me now from Washington, D.C. We'll get to the movie business shortly, but let's start in the boardroom, and specifically the SEC and some proposals that are generating a lot of opposition. And as I understand it, these are proposals that would make it harder for investors to challenge corporate management on environmental, social, and governance issues. You filed some comments with the SEC. What is its stake here for investors like you and me? Oh, the future of capitalism. Nothing important.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Oh, okay. We can move on to movies then. Yeah, you know, what's odd about this is there's a sharply divided vote in the commission on proposing these rules. You had the Democrats voting in favor of free market transactions between financially sophisticated buyers and sellers, having to do with access to independent research and recommendations, on shareholder proposals that are non-binding on the company. So even if they get 100% vote on a shareholder proposal saying, company, pay more attention to climate change,
Starting point is 00:20:32 company can ignore it, and they do. So you had the Democrats supporting the current system, and you had the Republicans coming in like the nanny state, saying, well, these may be the most sophisticated professionals in the country, fund managers, managing hundreds of millions and sometimes billions of dollars, but we don't trust them to know. whether they want to subscribe to these publications or not. And the corporations, the CEOs are putting a ton of money into it.
Starting point is 00:21:02 In fact, this week they took a full-page ad in the Washington Post. Clearly the publication of record for individual investors. I don't know why maybe they wanted government people to read it, but they took out a full-page ad in the Washington Post saying that this was absolutely essential. and they've hired all kinds of operatives and fake front groups. In fact, it's been such a disaster that Senator Van Hollen of Maryland told the chairman of the SEC, you've been duped because the seven comments you relied on in your opening remarks on this proposal were all fake. They were all from people who later said that they didn't know that they had signed comments
Starting point is 00:21:46 and that they, however, did have a son-in-law working on K Street in Washington. So it's all been very fake. It was so fake that there's actually a hearing today in Washington on this issue of fake front groups filing comments on government proposals. It seems like a lot of time and effort to say nothing of money on something that's non-binding. Absolutely. The two issues that they seem to be the most concerned about are shareholder votes on CEO pay, of which 98% voted in favor of CEO pay plans last year, only 2% percent. of companies had a no vote. And once again, even those didn't have to do whatever the shareholder
Starting point is 00:22:25 said. And the other issue seems to be climate change. But you can see they're really having a meltdown over it. They've got a parallel rulemaking going on over at the Labor Department. We'll definitely keep an eye on that. Let's move to Wall Street and specifically Goldman Sachs. CEO David Solomon came out recently and said, Goldman Sachs, which has done a very, good bit of business taking companies public, Solomon said Goldman Sachs is no longer going to take a company public unless it has at least one diverse board member. And he said that in the past four years, IPOs of U.S. companies with at least one woman on the board performed significantly better than those without. First, are you surprised that Goldman Sachs is taking this stance?
Starting point is 00:23:16 I am gratified, though, and it does show from the facts that you just mentioned that he relied on that this is 100% a market-driven decision. Whether it's chicken or the egg, I don't know, whether it is that investors respond more positively to companies with diverse boards or whether companies with diverse boards just do better. Nobody will ever know. But certainly the days of the mail, pale, and stale boards should be over. I was a little surprised, maybe I shouldn't be, but I was a little surprised at the some of the pushback on this proposal, some cries of tokenism and that sort of thing. Because, again, this just seems like when you run the numbers, this just seems like smart business by Goldman Sachs, particularly when you consider over the last six months, going back to last summer when we had Uber and Lyft and then the whole WeWork debacle, that IPOs of the last six months or so, have been a little touchy, a little dodgy. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:22 If I'm Goldman Sachs, I want to back IPOs that are going to make me money. Absolutely. This comes out, by the way, just as a new study about European initiatives to increase board diversity are lagging. And that may be because they were designed to be a little more tokeny. This is definitely a very strongly market-based decision. It is not – this would be nice to do. This is essential to do in an era of Me Too, in an era of growing numbers of graduates from business schools, growing numbers of executives who are diverse.
Starting point is 00:25:01 It just makes no sense from the standpoint of business to ignore those people. Let's move on to the business of entertainment. Disney recently reported they've got more than 28 million subscribers to their Disney Plus service, which is pretty nice when you consider. it just launched three months ago. I know you're a subscriber. Did that number surprise you, though? Not at all. Disney went about it 100% right.
Starting point is 00:25:28 As you know, they started the same time as Apple TV, and they had the great advantage that Apple did not have of just the world's greatest content to put on there. They brought back stuff that was guaranteed to please everybody. So they had stuff on there for baby boomers. they had crucially stuff on there for the parents of today's children. So it's not just that they want to get access to the Disney Jr. content and the Pixar content for their children. They're bringing back the stuff from the old Disney Channel series from when today's parents were in elementary school.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And so they, and of course they've got Star Wars. They've got the Avengers. So it makes absolute sense to me that that would be a bonanza. And that's why I bought more Disney stock before they started it. Bob Iger, the CEO at Disney, was talking about the Star Wars franchise and said that the short-term priority is television. To what extent do you think Star Wars is, if not tapped out as a movie franchise, it is at least on the back burner for the next three to five years? Well, some of their Star Wars-related movies have not done as well, particularly the spinoff. And I think they are looking at what has gone on with their own Marvel.
Starting point is 00:26:44 characters and also their rival DC characters, which have really transitioned to television so well. And I think they're seeing that there are just a lot more opportunities and that there are certain kinds of stories that are better suited for television. The Mandalorian is a perfect example. It is so well done. It is so satisfying both to hardcore Star Wars fans and to newcomers that I think that's very smart. It's not just Star Wars that's transitioning to television. It's pretty much everything.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Before we get to the Oscars, I want to ask you about your friend, the late great Roger Ebert. I was listening to an interview he had done with the Molly Fool back in 2002, and he was asked about the most negative change in the movie industry during his career. And he said it was marketing, that marketing had taken over for art, and that movie makers were no longer trying to make the Great American movie. That was nearly 20 years ago that he said this. To what extent do you think marketing has taken over for art when it comes to movies? I agree with Roger, as I just about always do.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I think the turning point for me, going back to Disney, was the year that the original Lion King movie came out. It was at that time the highest grossing film of the year, which was nice and everybody was happy about that. But I think that what made the real difference is that even at the very, very top of the pyramid, of movie box office, they still made more money from merchandising than they did from box office. And I think that really turned movies into infomercials. And I was at a screening of the Birds of Prey movie, which is going to be a big hit this weekend.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And somebody came dressed as one of the characters, and she told me that she got the outfit from Spencer's Gifts. So ahead of time, they're already marketing the costumes for these characters. So I think movies are increasingly being used to just to sell merchandise. On the other hand, because of the other issue that we've just talked about, which is television and the unquestioned Golden Age of Television, the content that's available on television right now, you have a whole new category of lower budget content that would never have found a movie theater in the past. It's absolutely terrific. It's a very, very strong fan base and doesn't have to make.
Starting point is 00:29:09 million or $100 million to provide an adequate return. It's amazing that somehow the birds of prey people were able to get their stuff together, but for all the success of the Mandalorian, Disney couldn't get Baby Yoda toys out before Christmas. That was shocking, and I suspected it was because they wanted it to be a surprise, and I felt very lucky that I watched that first episode with a surprise at the end. without knowing anything about it ahead of time, I had just the purest sense of delight. I laughed out loud when I saw that. And I thought it was perfectly handled.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And I wondered if that was why they were just trying to keep it a secret. All right, let's get to the Academy Awards. We'll stick with the three of the biggest awards anyway. And as always, I'm going to ask you who should win and who you think will win. And we'll start with Best Actor. This is Joaquin Phoenix's fourth time being nominated, and it really seems like the fourth time is going to be a charm for him. Yeah, I'm afraid you're right.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I wasn't that crazy about the performance, although you have to admire his commitment. I wasn't that crazy about the movie. I think he is going to win. Somebody told me a long time ago, and I didn't believe it, but I've grown to believe it, that the Hollywood voters for the Oscars
Starting point is 00:30:26 pay a lot of attention to the acceptance speeches that people give. And if they think it's going to be an acceptance speech that's going to really promote their industry, they're more inclined to vote. And I think Joaquin Phoenix, who has been known as something of an unpredictable participant in these events in the past, has been on his very best behavior. And I think for that reason, he's probably going to win.
Starting point is 00:30:48 But my choice would be Adam Driver, not just because he gave a sensational performance in marriage story, but because what a year that guy had. He was in three very different movies. He was in Star Wars. He has just become one of the most interesting and really varied performers that we have in Hollywood, and I would love to see Adam Driver get the award. In the best actress category, Renee Zellweger appears to be an overwhelming betting favorite. Who do you think will win and who do you think should win?
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah, I think she is going to win, and certainly, again, talk about commitment. She gave a tremendously committed performance in Judy, which is the story of the last few months of the life of Judy Garland. To me, it was a little stuntish, and I think she's a person who has a lot of affection in the Hollywood community. Everybody loves a comeback, all of that. If we're my pick, I would go with Shersha Ronan, who, first of all, she should just get an Oscar every year. She's the Merrill Streep of her generation, but her performance as Joe March and Little Women was absolutely dazzling. And finally, eight films nominated in the Best Picture category, but it does seem like it is 1917s to lose. You know, I think that's right.
Starting point is 00:32:11 And yet on a lot of the preliminary awards that are important indicators, we saw Parasite. Parasite got the Screen Actors Guild Award, their equivalent of Best Picture. it would be stunning for a Korean film to win Best Picture. It would be stunning for any non-English language film, for a horror film, all of those reasons, no name actors that are known in the United States, and yet it has a lot of support. I'm guessing we may see a split.
Starting point is 00:32:42 We may see Bongchun Howe get the best director, and 1917 gets Best Picture. 1917 is the quintessential best picture. It's a big historical epic that's just got a lot of heart to it and a lot of technical achievement. Look for Roger Deacons to get the Oscar for cinematography for that well-deserved. And finally, please fill in the blank when it comes to the Academy Awards. Don't be surprised if... They don't be surprised if Disney does not win best animated film.
Starting point is 00:33:18 They usually have a lock on everything, but this is a very crazy year. And I don't think that Toy Story is going to get it. I think it could go to missing link, which is a stop motion animation. They've never had one of those when best animated before. I lost my body, a very strange film that nobody saw, but it's got a lot of support. So I think that's kind of the wild card category this year. One of the best reasons to be on Twitter is so you can follow, Nell Minow. Get her thoughts on corporate governance, movies, and a lot more.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Nell, enjoy the Academy Awards. Always good talking to you. Thank you. Coming up next, we'll give you an inside look at the stocks on our radar. This is Motley Fool Money. Movies is magic. Life is tragic. Bees them as always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about,
Starting point is 00:34:24 and the Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against, so don't buy ourselves stocks based solely on what you hear. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money, Chris Hill, here in studio. Once again, with Jason Moser, Andy Cross, and Ron Gross. Two quick things before we get to the stocks on our radar. First, the Motley Fool is hiring. We want you. Yes, you listening. We have literally dozens of jobs that we're looking to fill in marketing, in tech. We're looking for software engineers, SEO experts, and more. So if you're interested, go to careers.fool.com. That's careers.com. Check out all of the jobs we have posted. And second, if you're looking for even more stock ideas and recommendations, check out our flagship service, Stock Advisor. You get stock recommendations from David and Tom Gardner. You get their best buys now and a lot more. Just go to Radarstocks.fool.com. That's Radarstocks.fool.com and 50% discount for the dozens
Starting point is 00:35:16 of listeners. Because that's how we roll on Motley Full Money. All right. Let's get to the stocks on our radar. Our man behind the glass, Steve Brodo is going to hit you with a question. Ron Gross, you're up first. What are you looking at this week? Empire State Realty Trust, ESRT. It's a real estate investment trust that I'm looking into. They went public back in 2013. Their flagship asset is the Empire State Building, which I think we've all heard of. About 93% of their assets are office space, 7% retail. Portfolio currently consists of 14 different office properties, really strong management team, decades of experience in Manhattan office real estate. It is a real estate investment trust. A REIT currently has a 3%
Starting point is 00:35:56 dividend yield. Empire State Realty Trust, Steve, you got a question? So in a sentence or two, why should investors buy REITs? So REITs by law have to distribute 90% of their net income to shareholders. So, did Typically, the dividends are higher than other types of companies. So if you're looking for yield, it's a nice place to look. Jason Moser, what are you looking at this week? Yeah, putting together a small cap report for the augmented reality service, and I am going to feature limelight networks in this report.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Ticker is LLNW. This is a small cap, right? About a $600 million market cap, but they are in the business of digital content delivery, and they utilize edge computing to do that. Now, what is edge computing, you say, Steve? In simplest terms, it's just bringing the cloud closer to us and reduces latency as we download and stream more stuff. So it's a business I'm looking into learning more about their customers operate media,
Starting point is 00:36:48 entertainment, gaming technology. And they have a big customer in Amazon, who accounted for approximately 30 percent of revenues last year. So I'm trying to ascertain what the competitive advantage is here, or if it's just something that could ultimately be wiped out by big tech. Steve, question about limelight networks? Seems like a very crowded space. What's one thing they can do to stand out? Well, I think, you know, deliver that content as quickly and as vibrantly as possible, right?
Starting point is 00:37:14 I mean, when you're streaming and you've got a good picture in zero latency, that really stands out for consumers, I'd say. I'm not saying it's on the level of data dog, but that's a good name. Limelight networks? That's a good name. Makes me think of Rush. Yeah, baby. Andy Cross, what are you looking at this week? Steve, O, one that you might have heard of, Moody's symbol MCO, one of the largest credit ratings,
Starting point is 00:37:32 analysis firms of fixed income and debt instruments, has a basically duopoly with S&P, where they have more. more than 80% market share. It's recommendation in our moneymaker's service because it makes a lot of money. It has exceptionally high profit margins. They can price their debt ratings. They can increase the prices, 3 to 5% a year. Sales at about 30 times on the earnings front, 11 times sales. It's had a magnificent run. Stocks up 70% for the past year. So I'm looking for a little bit of a pullback, but want to see what they have earnings next week. Steve, question about Moody's? How much should investors rely on these ratings?
Starting point is 00:38:07 Well, if you're a debt instrument investor a lot, I mean, they have to buy, most of them required to have the debt instruments rated before they can buy them. So I think it's important to look at them and understand them. Standard and Poor's has the 500 index. How come Moody's doesn't have an index? I don't know. They probably need one. They do have a little Moody's analytics business, which is growing really rapidly. Not as good as an index. Moody's, limelight networks, Empire State, Realty. You got one you want to add to your watch list there, Steve? Let's go to New York, Ron. All right. I'm in. Vote trip?
Starting point is 00:38:37 Will you film that? Because I would totally watch a road trip movie of you too. All right, Ron Gross, Jason Moser, Andy Cross. Guys, thanks for being here. Thanks, Chris. That's going to do it for this week's edition of Motley Full Money. Our engineer is Steve Broido. Our producer is Matt Greer. I'm Chris Hill. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week.

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