Motley Fool Money - Will Google Overtake Apple?
Episode Date: July 17, 2015Google has its best week in more than ten years. Will the tech giant overtake Apple in the race to a trillion dollar market cap? Our analysts tackle that question and delve into big earnings from Domi...nos, eBay, and Netflix. And Motley Fool analyst Tim Beyers talks Comic Con 2015 and the battle for the living room. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What is up?
Earning season is up, my friend. It kicks into high gear this week. We're going to take a closer look at the entertainment industry. And as always, we'll give you an inside look at the stock.
on our radar. But we begin with a tech giant that is just getting bigger, and that is Google.
Second quarter profits came in higher than expected, making gains in mobile and YouTube, Jason,
and shares up more than 16 percent on Friday.
Amazing, amazing day and a very solid core. It's no secret that video across many of the
businesses that we cover, a video is seen as a huge opportunity in the market today. Google
knows this, and they are capitalizing on it with YouTube.
So going into the quarter, a lot of us have been paying attention to sort of the costs
and wondering if they could actually kind of pull those costs and tighten the operations
up a little bit.
They have a new CFO in there, and she's doing a good job of communicating with shareholders.
She talked a lot on the call.
Mobile, they're doing very well.
Let's go back to YouTube, though, because I think that's really the secret to this quarter.
They did a great job cutting costs, but YouTube brought in some amazing numbers.
The average viewing session on YouTube is now more than 40 minutes. That's up 50% year
over a year. The number of advertisers on YouTube is up 40% from a year ago. The average spending
of the top 100 advertisers on YouTube is up more than 60% from a year ago. So while we have
talked ad nauseum about how Google has more or less missed the social boat to this point, they
do have a very valuable property there in YouTube. And I think we're going to continue to
see them really trying to exploit that for all it's worth.
Yeah, I mean, it's the remarkable thing is I don't remember the exact number that Google paid for YouTube.
1.6 billion.
There it is.
1.6 billion.
And Google is probably going to end up adding about $50 billion worth of market cap on Friday alone.
And a lot of it is, as Jason said, based on YouTube.
But I think it's a great point.
Video is getting huge.
And it's a very friendly mobile format, which is something that Google has been trying to do.
I mean, so much of their business is still dependent on desktop.
But they have made some great strides in mobile, even though the cost per click numbers aren't as great in that.
space, but they certainly are expanding their audience and YouTube's a big reason for that.
Well, and just to go back to something you touched on, Ruth Porat, the new CFO, she got
a lot of accolades when she was hired away from Wall Street and already, as you said, really
impressing people with not just her communication style, but also just the way she's bluntly saying,
hey, look, we are conscious of the money we're spending and we're being more mindful of it.
Yeah, there's no question.
I think she comes in sort of, you know, not a part of that call.
culture that the former CFO was a part of for so long, where excessive spending was seen
as, ah, it's okay, these are these moonshots. She's coming in with sort of an implicit
mandate, but it's, listen, let's, our margins are tanking here. We've got a big problem
with spending and not really showing, you know, any profits from that spending. So I think
that, again, to your point, she did a very good job communicating on the call, and I think
we're going to continue to see quarter in and quarter out a more focus on controlling those
costs. If they can keep controlling those costs and then really see the benefits of YouTube,
man, investors could be looking in some good days ahead.
Mattie, as you mentioned, Google adding more than $50 billion to its market cap. That is the
biggest one-day gain in history. So let's look at the scoreboard. Google's market cap
around $450 billion. Apple's market cap, $745 billion. Which one becomes the first trillion-dollar
company. What do you think, Matt?
Oh, man. Apple has such a lead. But if I was just picking those two...
You can go off the board.
Oh, go off the board. Well, okay. I'd give Google the slight nod here, just because
I think Apple's growth is about to slow down quite a bit. But you know, if I could have
a third candidate, I would say Amazon is still... I've said they're eventually getting
to $1 trillion. I believe that. Whether they get their faster in Apple or Google, I don't
know, but that would be my dark horse choice.
Yeah, I mean, I think it'd probably take Google over Apple just because I think the commodity,
the commoditized nature of those devices is going to tamp down on Apple's growth. But I do
think Facebook is worth an honorable mention here because they got to 250 billion so fast. And
I think it's going to be a more relevant business over the coming decade than something
like Google. So I wouldn't put it past Facebook to get there first.
Shares of Netflix up 17 percent this week after the company added 3.3 million new
subscribers in the second quarter. Pretty impressive across the board, Matt, but particularly
internationally.
Yeah, of that 3.3 million, 2.4 million coming internationally, about 900,000 from the U.S.
I mean, that's double the rate, Chris, that they added a year ago.
So their subscriber numbers are accelerating. They're up to 65 million subscribers.
And I've seen, you know, of course, now everyone's excited on Netflix, but I've seen some
analysts out there saying that they're going to get to 200 million subscribers within five
years. That might be a little aggressive because the company's actually come out and said,
yeah, we're going to add by 5 to 6 million per year over the next few years. That is way too
conservative, but I also think 200 million is way out there. But this is a company that
they expect to be in every country, I'm sorry, by the end of next year. And they're in Japan
starting this quarter. They're going to be in Spain, Italy, and Portugal later this year.
Still trying to crack China, which is going to be a tough one to crack, but they'll eventually
get in there. And I just want to point out that this is now, Netflix is now an 11 bagger for
our Odyssey One portfolio in Supernova. We bought it back in 2012 at a split-adjusted
price now of $10.32. Well done. Loving the Netflix right now.
And Jason, the further we get away in time from the whole Quickster debacle, the more
it seems like that was just a speed bump in an otherwise stellar run that Reed Hastings
has had running this company.
Yeah, no question. We talk all the time about how as investors we learn from our mistakes
and that's what makes us better. And I think that Reed Hastings really, you know, he made
a mistake, but he really learned from it. And what we've got is as a leader in
Heathings, who's very customer-centric, wants to make sure he's giving his subscribers what
they want. Very Jeff Bezos-like, in my opinion, they're just are focused so much on the
customer. If he continues with that philosophy, I really, they're the sky's the limit with
these guys at this point.
Shares of Intel down this week because all Intel did in the second quarter was make a profit
of $2.7 billion off of revenue of more than $13 billion. I feel a little bad for
Intel. I mean, they're raking in so much money, but profits? Profits?
Profits?
I mean, you're right. I mean, this is a huge company, and I think that they've had a very
tough year to date. It's a business that's in transition. It's not to say that's not the
right strategy. I think it is, as sort of the PC market continues to suffer. But the transition
it's making, that's not what got it to where it is today. And so I think the questions
are fair as to how are they going to witness the growth in the data center and the memory
and the Internet of Things segments that they're pursuing now?
I mean, Internet of Things, for example, that made up 4.2 percent of their net revenue in the
most recent quarter. That was up from just under 4 percent in the second quarter of 2014.
Data centers, that's up to 29 percent of total sales.
You know, I mean, hey, you got to love the fact that they've got options, right?
So, I mean, they're making a move away. Whenever any company has to do that, there's a lot
of uncertainty. The market just doesn't like uncertainty. It's worth mentioning, though, they still
pay out a very healthy dividend yield. So for income investors, it's worth hanging on to these
shares, even when they're in the doldrums like today.
Another chipmaker, AMD, also reporting earnings this week, and earnings is in air quotes,
of course. As that stock drops below $2 a share, can we all just stop pretending that they
are a competitor to Intel?
Well, Chris, earnings season is more about guidance going forward than the failures of the past.
Unfortunately for AMD, both are very bad. The past has been bad. The guidance going forward is bad.
They have more exposure to the PC market. That's a big problem. They've got a lot of debt on the
balance sheet they have to deal with. Top lines falling off a cliff. Margins compressed. Stay away
from this one. Shares of eBay up this week after second quarter profit came in higher than expected.
eBay is also selling its enterprise division for $925 million.
Pretty good quarter here, man.
It was, but of course we've always talked about eBay as a tale of two companies.
Now they really are two companies, because as of this past Friday, PayPal is now officially
a separate company.
So you look at the results, you know, you have PayPal, which had a great quarter, a 20% increase
in payment volume, 19% increase in revenue, 11% growth in active user accounts.
targeting revenue growth of 15 to 18 percent for all of 2015. Then you got to turn to eBay,
where revenue for eBay actually fell 2%. I mean, it's partly if you strip out foreign currency.
Revenue was up a little bit. But this is a company that they're expecting revenue to grow
three and five percent. We know it was the story with eBay. They've been sort of trailing
the overall e-commerce market for some years now. At the same time, I look at everyone's going
to be excited about PayPal, and I think that, for rightfully so. It's a company that's growing
faster. It's in a more exciting space at the moment.
But you've got to give some credit to eBay, and they're buying back a lot of stock.
They announced they also announced a $1 billion stock buyback.
That's on top of $2 billion.
Company generates a lot of cash.
And Jason and I were talking before the show.
This is a company that I think is going to be hungry for growth, because there's not a lot
coming from the core business.
They have a lot of cash to put to work.
I think they're going to make some moves.
I think they might buy a Mercado Libre, for example, which is the largest e-commerce
company in Latin America.
They're going to spread out a little bit.
I think you're going to see some exciting things from that business, even though that
business isn't growing very well right now.
John Donahoe has done a great job running this company for the past seven years.
But just to go back to the enterprise thing for just a minute, because they bought GSI
Commerce for, I think, somewhere in the neighborhood of $2.5 billion, just under $2.5 billion
four years ago. So on the one hand, maybe give them credit that they are cutting bait.
But let's also recognize they're going to take a $1.5 billion right down on that.
Right. And yeah, so there you go. Not a great, obviously not a great pedigree when it comes
to acquisition. Skype is another one that comes to mind where they really didn't make a lot
on that as well initially. So we'll see how they do. I'm going to say this very Microsoft-esque.
Coming up, we will talk healthcare and balance that out by analyzing some unhealthy foods.
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Welcome back to Motley Full Money. Chris Hill here in studio with Jason Moser and Matt Argusinger
as earnings paloosa rolls on. Second quarter profits for United Health Group.
rose 12.5%. They also raised their guidance. That's a pretty good one-two punch there, man.
It is. And let me first say, though, this is an industry I don't pay a lot of attention
to, but I think it's one investors, including me, should be paying more attention to.
Yeah, revenue for United Health up 11 percent. Of course, this is one of the biggest players,
I think the biggest player in the healthcare.
Biggest for-profit insurer in America.
Right. So, you know, that tells you a lot right there. Their medical loss ratio, which is
It's akin to the combined ratio, which we talk a lot about with the insurance industry.
That fell to 81.4 percent slightly, which that's good. You want to see that number come down.
They raised the earnings guidance for the year. Bottom line with the healthcare space, there's
a lot of consolidation happening right now, especially among big players. We saw the Aetna and
Humana deal. United Health was actually in the, you know, sort of in the rumor to be buying
Aetna as well as Cigna, which is another big player. But consolidation in the industry like this,
I think it's going to be a good thing. I think it's going to be good for United Health. I think
You know, it brings scale, pricing power.
So this is an industry I think you want to be paying a closer attention to.
Well, and you look at the stock, I mean, down a little bit on, as we said, you know,
a good quarter, but over the last year, up close to 50%.
So there are a lot of things going right over there.
Sure enough.
Domino's Pizza's second quarter profits came in higher than expected.
Same store sales.
Do I have this right, Jason?
Same store sales were nearly 13 percent?
Same store sales, yeah, domestically were, let me see here.
domestic same-source sales were almost 13%. It did almost grow a full 13%.
I think that's Chipotle-A-Sk. It is Chipotle-A-Sk. And it's pretty phenomenal. Here's another
stat for you. This was their 86th consecutive quarter of international same-store sales growth.
86 consecutive quarters. Think about that. That's crazy. That's a lot of mediocre pizza.
A lot of very mediocre pizza. But yeah, I mean, let's face it. I mean, it is relatively
mediocre pizza. I'm sure I'll probably get an email or two on that. But I stand by my comments.
You know, I think the key here, though, is the rebranding effort they're going through with
and going from Domino's pizza to just Domino's.
I think they've done a very good job with this.
The rebranding effort is working.
They're selling more stuff now, so it's not just mediocre pizza, Maddie.
It's a lot of mediocre stuff.
Right.
Love mediocre stuff, especially lots of it.
But, I mean, you know, they're catering to delivery.
That's a big deal, obviously.
They're getting more customers with selling more stuff, and that's working.
And it's worth noting that.
they are tackling their customers, meeting their customers on the digital front as well.
And when you have, I mean, 50 percent of sales coming from digital channel, you know, that's
Papa John's-esque, right? I mean, Papa John's has done a wonderful job on the digital
front as well. So Domino's, I think, is wise to pursue that and continue growing that
out. And they've just opened themselves up to a broader customer base, which is, I think, helping.
Our colleague Matt Joss, who works in Australia, the last time he was visiting Fool HQ, one
of the things he talked about was how great Domino's is and how dominant it is in Australia.
So, I mean, that's a good-sized market that they're doing pretty well.
Yeah, I can imagine.
I mean, it does translate internationally.
I mean, I remember when we were living in Cairo, Egypt, and Domino's was very successful
there, and it was a relatively consistent product.
I mean, we had pizza delivered from there, and it tasted just like you would get here.
So I think, you know, being able to translate into different international markets is great.
And obviously, with the 86 consecutive quarter of same-store sales growth, they're
doing something right.
Well, and another stock that's done really well over the past year. So you look at their results,
and it almost seems kind of like with Chipotle. Domino's Pizza, as a stock, is sort of entering
that range of really, really good results are not going to move the stock higher.
No. They're almost at the point where they need perfection.
And it's interesting. We talk about this with Bojangles before. Love the food, probably
going to stay away from the stock. Domino's pizza, I'm not a big fan of the food, but hey, the stock
actually looks pretty tasty.
Yum Brands is the parent company of Pizza Hut, KFC, and Taco Bell.
Second quarter, looked pretty good, Maddie, but it is the, speaking of trends, it is the
fourth consecutive quarter of falling sales.
Right. And it really is still about China. Still, I feel like we've been talking about Yom's
China problems for years.
Well, we have. We have been, actually.
Okay, we have been.
So literally, you know, same store sales in China were down 10% in the quarter. That's after
the first quarter when they were down 12%. So things are not getting better.
You know, I'm struggling to figure out how Yum is, the stock is actually up 25% this year,
but you dig into the numbers.
And on the U.S., I'd say outside of China, they're actually doing pretty well.
Taco Bell sales were up 9%.
Same store sales were up 6% there.
KFC sales were up 6%.
Pizza Hut was up a little bit, mostly flat.
But I mean, it just shows you that the rest of the world still likes what Yum has to have,
even if the Chinese are kind of staying away.
Well, and they really need to get out of the habit of referring to the way.
to their poultry supply problems in China as one-time issues. Because newsflash, if it happens
a few times over a several-year period, then you've got a legitimate problem on your head. And
we've talked about this before, Jason. This is one of those issues where this may be the new
reality for them in China, that people who are just sort of turned off by the poultry problems
that they're having just say, you know what, I'm not going back there. I don't care if you've
cleaned up your supply issues. In my mind, I'm done with you.
Yeah, and it's also worth noting, I mean, not KFC, to my understanding, is it's not like it's the most affordable food in China.
It's more upscale. Yeah, it's a little bit more upscale. So, if it's a bit more upscale and it's going to make you sick, I think people are probably going to go elsewhere.
Yeah, and these problems linger for a long time. I remember Jack in the box had their scare 20 years ago, but I feel like their same store sales were in the tank for five, six, seven, maybe even almost a decade.
They've bounced back pretty nicely, not just with the namesake stores, but also with Kudelpa as well.
That was the big midnight munchies meal, right?
Mark Reith, I think, gave us some boots on the ground resource there.
Yeah.
Maybe that's taco about, maybe that's Yom's answers.
Midnight munchy meals for their China.
This whole conversation is making me much more excited about United Health because
I just feel like we're still stuffing ourselves with terrible, mediocre, or worse food,
and we're going to eat health care.
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Up next, we will take a closer look at the entertainment industry and battle for the living room.
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2015 is shaping up to be a record-setting year for the movie industry.
And the battle for the living room has never been more crowded than it is right now.
So here to help us make sense of it all is Tim Byers, he analyzes the entertainment industry for Motley Fool rules.
Breakers and Supernova, and he joins me now. Thanks for being here, man. Yeah, good to be back on.
Let's start in California, where you are right now. San Diego Comic-Con just wrapped up,
around 150,000 people attending. A lot of buzz, of course, around the upcoming movies, Batman
versus Superman, some new movies from Marvel. You're a Comic-Con veteran. What's your headline from this
your show.
It's neither of those things.
It's Star Wars.
Star Wars blew everybody away.
In fact, they had their big Hall Age presentation.
It's funny.
Disney decided to put resources behind Star Wars at this year's San Diego Comic-Con,
left Marvel Studios at home, and they screened some new footage in Hall Age, which is the
big presentation center at San Diego Comic-Con.
And then when they were done with that, they took everybody out to a venue.
out by the harbor, the San Diego Harbor.
They brought out the Philharmonic Orchestra.
They piped in John Williams from overseas wherever he was, working on a new score,
and they played all kinds of the classic Star Wars music to this, you know,
crowd that was just in awe and blew everybody away with fireworks at the end of it.
So anybody that does not love Star Wars probably love Star Wars now,
And anybody who did love Star Wars probably is absolutely, you know, chomping at the bit to see this movie come December.
So Star Wars really owned the show.
As I alluded to so far in 2015, I mean, the movie industry has just been on fire.
And right now, we're on track for a $5 billion summer.
Yep.
$11 billion at the box office for North America for the year.
And $40 billion worldwide, all three of which,
would be records.
So when you look at these numbers as an investor,
who are some of the winners that you're seeing?
Well, the first one that comes to mind is IMAX.
And now, this is not to say that there aren't studio winners,
but IMAX is part of the reason that these numbers are so huge
because the widescreen format is gaining hold.
And that's not just here in North America, but that's around the world.
Blockbusters lend themselves very nicely to the widescreen format
and come, I believe it's 2018 and 2019, when we have the back-to-back Avengers films from Marvel Studios,
the Infinity War, those will be the first films 100% filmed in IMAX.
There's a lot of momentum for that company.
Now, as far as studios go, it has been an amazing year for Universal,
which is really nice to see because Universal's been nowhere for so long,
and Universal's been just a huge winner, fast and furious, minions.
These are just, they've had a run of properties that have been just astounding.
And the biggest of all, of course, is Jurassic World.
Dinosaurs eat everything.
So Universal has had an amazing year, and it's even with Star Wars,
I don't think Disney's going to catch them.
Comcast is the parent company of Universal Pictures.
You've got, as you mentioned,
Disney, the parent company for Star Wars and Marvel. On the smaller screen, though, you've
got AMC, which really has started to build up a pretty tremendous track record in terms
of the shows that they've produced. Where is AMC, as far as you're concerned, as an investor?
AMC is moving exactly where it needs to. And if you're an investor, you're going to really want
to pay close attention to what happens on August 23rd. That is when Fear the Walking Dead
debuts. That's the spinoff show from the main property, which has been the top-rated
program on cable TV for several years now. It's, you know, born from, you know, the comic
that Robert Kirkman created so many years ago back in 2003. Is that his, you know, his studio now,
Skybound Entertainment, really has become one of the, I would call them the first mini-making
majors that has arisen specifically out of the comic book industry. And so they have these cross-media deals.
AMC has been the biggest benefactor of that. Fear the Walking Dead is interesting for a couple of reasons.
The first is that it is fully owned by AMC. It is an original property. So Kirkman has essentially
sold the rights to that program. The second is it's the first one to be fully internationally distributed by AMC International.
That's the business unit that was created out of the billion-dollar cello media purchase a few years ago.
So this is a property that has a chance to give AMC benefits all the way down the line.
The Walking Dead is great because there's some merch that they get out of that.
They have some licensing goodness.
They certainly get benefit here in the U.S., but Fox International Studios gets the gravy overseas.
That won't be the case with Fear of the Walking Dead.
It will be fully licensed.
They get all the benefits of good ratings here in the U.S., and they get all the benefits of good ratings overseas.
So if this is a hit, it can be a real catalyst for the stock.
You're listening to Motley Fool Money talking with Tim Byers Entertainment Industry Analyst.
Let's talk about the battle for the living room.
And as I mentioned before, it is really getting messy, which, of course, I love.
The messier the fights are, the more entertaining it is for me.
Sure.
But you have so many companies competing for our attention.
in the living room. Obviously, the cable providers, Comcast Verizon, we've got gaming companies,
Microsoft with the Xbox, obviously Netflix, Amazon with its prime service. And then you've got
the 800-pound guerrillas with Deep Pockets, the extent to which Google and Apple and Microsoft,
I suppose, again, want to throw more money at it. Where is the battle right now and who are you
betting on. Okay, so I'm betting on two, and I'm going to throw a third dark course in there. The two I'm
betting on are Netflix and Google. And let me tell you why. So first with Netflix, and it's fairly
obvious, they announce in their quarterly earnings. The number that gets lost in all this is how much
Netflix spends on content, and now that number is up to $6 billion, $6 billion annually. So they
kind of rateably roll this out, and it becomes part of just their
spending plan. They spend $6 billion. So there is an accelerating formula to bring originals into the
fold. And when you look at the Netflix numbers and read Hastings saying that 90%, nearly 90% of
Netflix members engage with original content, that means that every time they roll out into a new
territory, when they have a regional original or something that is worldwide in nature, they
already have a natural draw to that property, you know, to that region when they land there,
and they're going to land in a couple of places here before the end of the year. They're
going to land in Japan in Q3, and then they're going to go to Europe, Spain, Italy, and Portugal
in Q4. China is still being negotiated, but that is out there looming in the distance. So
Netflix is a big one. Google is a big one because of YouTube and what's happening with
YouTube creators and YouTube shows. There is a lot of uptake for short-form YouTube content
and YouTube channels, like one that I really like, Geek and Sundry.
They have a bunch of different shows.
They appeal to, you know, gamer geeks, comic geeks, you know, all kinds of different stuff.
It's custom programming, and it's very well-received,
and it gets the kind of audience you would expect of a niche TV show.
That's very interesting, and seeing what, you know, Netflix, I'm sorry,
Google can do with that as far as YouTube goes.
But Hulu is a third dark horse that is very interesting because of what they've done,
in acquiring program. Very quietly, they used that $750 million investment from a few years ago
to start building up a library of original programming, and they've done something that I think
doesn't, they should get more credit for this. They figured out how to get people to pay for
streamed programming and still show them some advertising by making it relevant and brief.
So who is making fistfuls of money? And when you go, by the way, it is a good investor tip. If you're
investor in any kind of entertainment company, do yourself a favor and look at LinkedIn. And don't
just look at LinkedIn. Look at what the companies you're following are advertising for. And right now,
if you go and look at the LinkedIn jobs for Netflix and Hulu, you will see that they are hiring
tons of people in content acquisition and business development. So what that tells you is that this
is an arms race, kind of what you said at the open here, Chris. This is an arms race in the living
room to see who can get the best content, who can deploy it fastest because the more you can
differentiate in that area, the better your odds of keeping members. You also have Comcast coming
out with their own streaming service that they are beta testing. And with the amount of content
that Disney is building up, both for kids and for adults, it's not inconceivable to think that
they make a serious run at their own streaming service.
So in a way, Netflix is doing really well, but it's almost like there's a constant other threat out there waiting just around the corner.
That's totally true, and this is why originals are so important.
And here's the thing that also goes either ignored or just overlooked.
Netflix offers something extremely powerful that those other competitors you just mentioned don't and probably never will.
Netflix buys up front, and so there's no pilot, there is a guaranteed season, and what they get on the back end,
and they get a lot of savings from this that goes underappreciated.
Netflix doesn't ever pay residuals, and if you don't follow the entertainment industry, you'll have no idea what that is,
But residuals are when a show appears somewhere else in syndication, there's a residual payment
that goes out to everybody involved with that show.
If there was a screenwriter and they were named, then they would get a residual payment.
An actor would get a payment, so on and so on and so on.
A Netflix original program pays no residuals whatsoever because what they say up front is,
hey, look, we're going to buy the whole season and you're going to be working for six months.
and for a lot of actors and a lot of directors, that is highly attractive.
It's way more attractive than going to make a pilot and then hoping and praying that you get picked up
with the long-term hope that if it's a hit over time, maybe you get residuals.
Now, in the latter formula, you can make a ton of money over time, just as Jerry Seinfeld.
But if you want the guaranteed money up front, Netflix offers you that.
They're getting a lot of really good talent because of it, and Disney, Hulu,
Comcast because they already have these kind of contracted agreements in place, they already
pay residuals, the chances of them blowing up their model and saying, yeah, you know what, we're not
going to do that anymore is highly unlikely. That's a hidden advantage that Netflix has.
All right, last question, and then I'll let you go. All this talk about entertainment, I need
a recommendation from you. Something, it can be a movie, it can be a TV show, it can be a Netflix
original, whatever you want. But give me a little viewing recommendation.
All right, viewing recommendation.
I would say, I'm going to give you two.
I think Ant Man is going to surprise everyone and be one of the funny favorite films that gets a lot of traction, you know, coming up here.
That's coming up this weekend.
But I think Fear the Walking Dead is going to be amazing.
That is a prequel, and it will not tell you how the zombies came to be.
We already know that.
But it will introduce you to a world where people,
discover for the first time that zombies are real. Given what we already know about the Walking
Dead, I think that is going to be a terrifying but really amazing show. I'm very much looking forward
to that. I have to say, Walking Dead is maybe the biggest, most successful, culturally relevant
television show that I have never seen one second of. So do I need this? I guess it's not for
everybody. I'm personally not much of a horror guy.
But the show itself, the way it deals with the human condition and what happens.
Like the tagline in the comic was always the best, and it's at what sold it,
is, you know, when the world is ending, people have to figure out how to start living.
You know, so like, you know, when you have no other choice,
now you have to figure out what it's like to live.
And that is what the show is about, and it's great.
And this, you know, Fear the Walking Dead will have a different dynamic where it will be like,
well, wait a minute, what happens when.
everything you hold deer is falling apart literally around you. That could be really fun.
He covers the entertainment industry from Motley Fool Rule Breakers and Supernova. He also makes
entertainment recommendations too. Tim Byers, thank you so much for being here.
Absolutely, my pleasure.
Coming up, we'll give you an inside look at the stocks on our radar. Stay right here. This is Motley Fool
money. As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about,
and the Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against. So don't buy you.
We buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. I'm Chris Hill.
Joining me in studio once again, Jason Moser and Matt Argusinger.
Guys, before we get to the stocks on our radar, I got a great email. Radio at Fool.com
is our email address. Question from Cameron Stewart in Provo, Utah, who writes,
I'm a new listener and I'm excited to learn how to invest. How can I make sure I'm making good choices about the companies I buy?
I realize that you learn by doing, but what can I read to make me a little more comfortable about investing in
individual stocks as opposed to mutual funds. Great question. Jason. What do you think?
Well, it's one we get all the time, and that's really why we exist, right? So, I'd be remiss if
I didn't mention that you could subscribe to something like Stock Advisor and really learn a lot.
You, Homer.
You a shabler.
If we're looking to save a little money or just take baby steps, I think one great resource
out there that we've just put together, it's called The Motley Full Guide to Investing for
beginners. It's an e-book on Amazon. So if you are a member of Kindle Unlimited,
It's free to read. If not, you've got to pay a whopping $2.99. $2.99 to get you the ticket there,
and you can download that on your Kindle or other device. Read that. I've read it. I really think it's great.
It strikes on a lot of those notes for beginning investors, and that's a wonderful resource to consider.
Maddie, before you win, I'll just add that I find Twitter to be a really helpful, free resource in terms of finding smart people to follow.
Morgan Housel, our colleague, is someone I would definitely recommend following on Twitter,
in part because Morgan does a lot of retweeting of other really smart writers.
That's right.
So a great way to get articles.
Well, Cameron, if you don't want to spend $2.99, and that is triple the average app price.
So I would say if you go to Fool.com, search 13 steps.
You'll find an article called 13 steps to investing foolishly.
It's really well written.
It's easy.
It kind of gets you comfortable with even setting up a brokerage account, but then buying you
your first stock. I would highly recommend that. Also, one of my favorite books of all time
is Peter Lynch is one up on Wall Street. It's one of the first books I read early on as an
investor. Lynch is so great because he really just buys companies that he loves. For any
investor, my general advice is always buy what you love. If I go back to one of the first stocks
I bought, it was Boston Beer, the maker of the Sam Adams. Right outside college, I love Sam Adams.
And I've owned the company ever since over the past 12 years.
So just buy what you love, but read those resources.
I think it'll be great.
I think that's the book that contains the great Peter Lynch quote, never invest in a
business that you can't illustrate with a crayon.
Boom.
That's it.
Any time anyone is trying to pitch you on a stock and they can't actually explain what
the company does.
All right, let's get to the stocks that are on our radar and our man, Steve Brodo, will come
in from the other side of the glass to hit you with a question.
Maddie?
Yeah.
and I kind of plan this a little bit for our stocks on the radar. So I'm going to go first,
if that's okay.
Absolutely, of course.
So I'm going to go with eBay. But we're talking about two companies, because eBay and
PayPal are separate. So I'm going with eBay, ticker eBay, EBAY, sorry. And I just think
this company is going to be beaten down a little bit after the split with PayPal. It's an
opportunity to buy a company that still generates a lot of cash, still number two in e-commerce
in the U.S., and I think it's going to get a little bit unfair shrift in the market over the next few months.
So, it's an opportunity potentially to buy into eBay.
And as we talked about earlier in the show, a much more focused business now. PayPal
is gone. The enterprise unit is gone. This is a marketplace business.
And lots of cash to put to work.
Steve, question about eBay?
I'm an eBay shareholder. I love it. Question is, do you think eBay is at its best when
it's selling used baseball cards or when it's selling a brand new iPad?
Great question. I think eBay has a really special niche in the market, which is buying
items you can't find in other places. And that is, like collectibles, used equipment, used
apparel, things like that. And I think there'll always be a source for that. And I think
eBay's perfect for that market.
Jason Moser, what's on your radar?
Well, if it's not obvious by now, I am actually going to go with PayPal. I'm very excited
to see this spinoff happen. Ticker of P-Y-P-L. It starts trading normally on Monday.
I think you look at PayPal playing into that mobile payment space. It's taking advantage
of technology. It's dictating so much of what we do today.
in transactions. I like the fact that they're acquiring Zoom. I think global remittance is a
terrific market to be in. I just wish they would have paid more for it. But, you know, hey,
what are you going to do? We can still play a part in that story by owning PayPal shares.
And I think I may own some PayPal shares at some point here. Smart leadership in Dan Shillman,
he was formerly with American Express. So given the size of the market opportunity, I think,
given the nature of how we're moving more and more towards those electronic payments, I think that
PayPal is just going to be a very, very relevant company for many, many years to come.
Steve?
Do you think there's enough transparency and fees with PayPal?
Whenever I use them, I never really know what they're making.
You know, I would say that's probably my one gripe with PayPal is it doesn't always seem so clear.
So, Steve, I like that point there.
Maybe we'll bring that up with them on an earnings call sometime soon.
All right, guys, thanks for being here.
That's going to do it for this week's edition of Motley Full Money.
Our engineer is Steve Broido.
Our producer is Matt Greer.
I'm Chris Hill.
Thanks for listening.
We'll see you next week.
