Move The Line - 2022 Round 1 NFL Mock Draft & Betting Angles

Episode Date: April 14, 2022

Move The Line hosts Connor Allen, Ryan Noonan, and John Daigle kick off the 2022 NFL Betting Season with a round one NFL mock draft! Watch them go pick-by-pick and share the best betting angles to take.Presented by FanDuelBet $5 on FanDuel Sportsbook, get $150 in bonus credit 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/go/fanduelSubscribe to 4for4's Betting Package 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/plansTopics Discussed0:00 Intro6:01 Round 1 Mock Draft: Picks 1-10 37:54 Round 1 Mock Draft: Picks 11-2051:20 Round 1 Mock Draft: Picks 21-321:10:32 OutroHosts: Connor Allen, Ryan Noonan, John Daigle, Move the LineFollow Us On:TwitterFacebookYouTubeDiscord 4for4 NFL Draft Odds & Betting TrackerMove the Line Bets Tracker Want a FREE 4for4 Betting Subscription? Deposit $10 into a new BetMGM account using promo code 4FOR4 👉🏼 https://4for4.com/go/BetMGMGet a FREE 4for4 Pro Sub & Bonus Deposit Match up to $100 with Promo Code 4FOR4 on Underdog Fantasy (Minimum $10 deposit) 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3wtvfuhEmail: [e-mail]

exciting news kind of already talked about this hinted at it probably wasn't a surprise to some joining us here in this spot always permanent third member of the move the line team our friend in real life our buddy who is i'm jealous of right now who is on vacation golfing uh at one of the most beautiful golf resorts in the country. It is John Daigle Daigle. Welcome officially to Move the Line. Really excited about all that we have coming and getting started on the draft season. It's not really a vacation since.

I'm still working in between. Nonetheless, your boy was 94 on the final tee of number two this morning. And for reference, just to let you know, like Connor, I don't know if you're aware, scratch golfers at number two, Pinehurst, they infamously shoot 84 to 87, mid to high 80s, because the greens, nothing sticks. It's an absolute disaster.

Nothing sticks. And 94, hard right shot, left to right, no big deal. Hard right, that's an issue for my drive in the trees. I see a bunker 175 up No big deal. I'll pull out a club I will cut it short and then approach over the bunker Not going to go for the 180 to the green out of the pine straw around trees I don't think I can make that happen play it safe. I typically am a smart golfer And I shape shot it directly into the bunker.

So third shot now out of the bunker, plop it on the green, one long putt, up the hill for the next putt, 10-footer, broke 100. And I'm telling you, I feel like a god. That's the best I am ever going to do at number two, and I'm happy with it. Thanks. Any foot wedges? do we have mulligans were you playing gallery balls lost balls there is there's far too much sklansky bucks being passed around to allow for mulligans or anything like that we get there like an hour and a half to the

range early too so get it all in because there are no excuses once the first he hits love it absolutely love it so lots of three putts that's unusual for you but no moments yeah three putts are not your game well the uh the partner screens have a response for you it is my game actually conor allen's game is not even three putting because he doesn't even get to the green we make him pick up his ball before he gets there i haven't i haven't been back to the range since so uh i would love to say i've gotten better but i just but i've been thinking even while in the course many courses actually i've walked a lot of 18s already this week but have been thinking about the nfl draft and more importantly excited to start this now

because i thought we were going to do a full mock draft but instead we're giving ourselves time to loosen up since we do have officially two more episodes until we get into the actual draft and we're just going to be doing our top tens that's really exciting no what are you talking about we're doing a full mock draft are we really didn't you tell me we're doing top 10 no you said let's do a full mock draft we said well let's do a top 10 and then sal was like no let's do a full mock draft. We said, well, let's do a top 10. And then Sal was like, no, let's do a full mock draft. And we're like, okay, sounds good. So then we prepped for a full mock draft.

But you know what? I say we just let it roll. And when the wheels fall off, the wheels fall off. That's like an hour and a half episode. Good grief. Yeah, we're doing a full mock draft because this is what we changed to. I was prepared for a 10. Here's what we're doing.

I'm the judge. I'm the judge and juror. We're going to rotate. Connor gets odds. Daigle gets evens. You get the first pick for that 10. Here's what we're doing. I'm the judge. I'm the judge and juror. We're going to rotate. Connor gets odds. Daigle gets evens. You get the first pick for that pick. I break the ties. So if you guys happen to agree, we move forward. We move on. We're going 32 deep.

VR wants 32. We promised 32. I don't know if Daigle wants 32, but okay, we'll go 32. You recommended it. You recommended it, Daigle. I don't think I recommended it. I think, but okay, we'll go 32. Daigle did what? You recommended it. You recommended it, Daigle. I don't think I recommended it. I think I said I thought that's what we were doing,

and then you told me top 10 was the idea, and I said okay. I will pull up the receipts right now, and I will tweet out after the episode. I love you. I want to smack you so hard right now. Stop tweeting the chat. Stop tweeting the Slack chat. All right, that's what we're doing we're drafting a full draft 32 first rounders that's it connor picks odds dangle picks evens i break ties we move forward we'll throw a little bit of market stuff in there market continues to evolve develop there's new stuff coming in different books we'll

do our best to try to give you the best that we can. Cause again, it is a very fluid market. You know, books, populate stuff, people hammer it. Us. Hopefully we will not be doing any trades because adding trades to a

highly variant event is just asinine. We could talk to where we think teams might trade for the sake of the draft. We will not be doing any trades. Also in your mock draft. Don't put trades. Stop being an idiot. No,

totally agree. Yeah. I think the best way to do it is like you said, just mentioned where there could be trades, but like, how could you possibly project trades? The worst content is trades in a mock draft. Just stop doing it.

Yeah. Yeah. Too fancy. So, okay. We're good. Head over to four, four. dot com slash plans you can get a betting sub it's a fantastic deal you can get everything on the sites all the nba stuff we

have we still have betting for the pga over there uh if you haven't hopped over to betsports golf again we just mma stuff uh formula one nasc. We continue to roll out new sports. We have plans to do more. Head over there. You can check out all the stuff, all the official plays that the three of us have put together that is on a one single tracker on the site. Also stuff from other guys on the site too. Dalton Cates has been firing at long shots

from like the bottom of his toes for three months. Has nothing but plus 2000s on the board. Dalton is tracking all that too. All that also available in our subscriber-only Discord, 444.com slash plans. Sal, you can bring up the board. We're going to do our best. I was just showing them as an example.

I'm going to give Connor's pick away here of how we can do this here. But this is what we'll do. Like I said, Connor, you'll go with the evens, and Dane will go with the odds. So, Connor, you are on the clock. Jacksonville Jaguars, first pick, 2022 NFL draft. So I'm doing the odds then. I'm doing the odds.

Correct. All right. So, I mean, I guess it really depends on how we want to start this. Personally, just a quick bit here. I think all of us are kind of in locks up here. Hutchinson should not be a minus 250 favorite. Cam Robinson did sign his tag today, which kind of dilutes the chances, I guess, a little bit of the Jaguars taking an offensive tackle. But the reality is no one knows.

Trayvon Walker got a lot of steam today. And I think that where we're at today in the draft, most people seem to think it's him, at least among sharp circles. So I'm going to start it off with him. I think that that's probably the best scenario because if we start with Aquanu or Neal, I mean, shit gets off the rails real fast here compared to any consensus. So I think for betting's sake and kind of keeping the draft as like a you know a normal semi-normal mock draft at least to start uh i'll go with walker why do i want a semi-normal mock draft don't i want a draft that i think is going to happen like what's the is the goal to like to fit the consensus because people can just google that walker is number one i mean walker is like probably going to be the favorite like soon. Okay.

So, I mean, okay. So who do you think it is then? Well, that's not how this game works, Connor. Follow the rules. JD's pick. What? Okay, fine. Do we add our spin on why or why not that is? Yeah.

I mean, we don't want to be here for two hours. I know that, but I just want to know. I'm not on vacation. Do I have any? I'm not on vacation. I started actually an hour earlier, so I feel like I had two hours of time. But you can do, like, you can, you know. You didn't show up for a show that he's really going to talk to him fix.

Oh, my God. It's not an argument. I'll just say it. My only, my argument the whole time for Aiden Hutchinson has been that it wasn't him ever to begin with. And the books only moved to adjust their handle because people started citing. He's the fit with no actual info or reports. They just said, well,

this is a fit. This is the logical fit. But again, remember the Jaguars, not logical. So get your logical fits out of here. It does not matter. Noon.

You infamously don't even think Trayvon Walker is a good player, or at least in this range. And that's okay. Again, it doesn't matter. The Jaguars are not logical. They don't even think Trayvon Walker is a good player or at least in this range and that's okay again it doesn't matter the Jaguars are not logical they don't matter either so of course they're going to screw this up so I do not think it's Hutchinson I have never thought it's Hutchinson and I still am of the belief that if I was two months ago that Hutchinson is the third pick among the big three and Trayvon Walker Ecom who I really did think was the number one overall until just recently, and then Hutchinson.

I don't think Hutchinson goes here. Me neither. I don't think so either. So I think Walker or Ike, if you want to go either one. If you really want Neal, I guess you can make a case, but I think one of those two. I say let's go Walker and just go from there. I will not add as much to every pick, but I think it's important for number one because it does screw up an entire mock.

Like if you don't get this one, correct. We can, we can go into depth on the top, like 10 to 15, and then we can just rattle off the rest. I mean, I think this is why this draft is really interesting because there are definitely, you know, especially at the top, there are a couple of just trigger points that mess up the entire domino effect. It changes the dynamic drastically. So like, you know, it feels less cookie cutter again,

then when it's kind of what happens when you don't have the short things at the quarterback position that we don't have in this draft, we have quarterbacks that few people are, I think, smoke screening a little bit, maybe trying to position themselves for trades that someone that is interested can move up, you know, Jacksonville, it's unfortunate. Obviously when you land that a more quick, you want it to be as, you know, highly leveraged as possible. And because there is no one in dire situation

trying to trade up to get a quarterback, they are kind of stuck. I love the mindset that you have a, you have a quarterback that you just drafted number one last year, that shouldn't you be doing everything you can to build around him and to protect him? When I look at their team, not that defensive end isn't a need, but they had two guys, Josh Allen and Dwayne Smoot, that both ranked in the top 20 in pass rush win rate last year. Again, you can always use extra defensive ends, but I feel like it's not as much of a need as you might have at the offensive line, even though they re-signed or tenured Ken Robinson to a franchise deal. It's not a great offensive line. So I still think offensive line is very much here.

I think you can get into a case where Neal and Icky is a coin flip. The betting markets over at FanDuel say Icky is a minus 150 favorite to be first O-lineman off the board. So I would go that way. But if you guys think it's a defensive end for sure, and you want to go Walker, I'll go with Walker. Given the information we have now, I think it makes more sense to go Walker.

I am fairly confident right now. Could change in two weeks, but fairly confident it's Walker. All right, we won't go this long always in the first pick. Here's what I want to say about Walker. To Dagle's point, it absolutely does not matter if he's a good a good player or not um but there's a huge gap between what we saw from hutchinson and tibideau from a like pass rush win rate standpoint at the college level uh like almost double um or basically like half of what those two guys did in like one of the best

collegiate defenses of all time. So like he wasn't getting a ton of like attention. People weren't double teaming him and he could barely get to the quarterback. And he is like the ultimate shorts and t-shirt guy. They just like charted off like measurables off the charts. And now he's going to get himself a crap ton of money. Congratulations to the Walker family. Daigle.

No, no, no quick quick thing do you think that the trend balking even knows what pass rush one rate is i would say in the organization that can look at it and go like okay this kid didn't like perform super well in an elite defense in college i think like i don't know this is a this is a common problem that people overestimate who is actually in front offices, like the kind of individuals and those minded individuals they have because a lot of offices don't have that person who's ever heard of pass rush wound rate, like ever. Either way.

Okay, we went on to the second pick. You were right. He had six sacks. I mean, so you don't want to get too deep with it. He had six sacks in college as a junior. No, you make a fair point. Again, I don't care about the talent because I just – No, I agree.

I think it's just worth the conversation because he's not very good. It's worth the spin for sure. Also, I should say you used very quickly. We'll move on, Rick. We spent a lot of time here. That you used our Slack chat as a promotional for this show, and I don't owe you an apology, but I should say I am interested in the top 10.

The only reason I said I was not interested when I am interested is one, you caught me in a bad stable foreground on my seventh John Daly and the rally heat was not the time to talk to me. Also, Connor is the friend. I love Connor to death. Connor is your friend who shoots 10 text messages when I prefer the friend who gives me one sentence, what, where,

and when, because what and where I'll have a yes or no for you. And then when I use it to decipher really quick. So that's all I'm saying. Connor was shooting a lot of messages and I did not have time for a lot of messages. I blame Elliot for that. That's an Elliot Chris thing. Like Elliot is just like the king of that. Just like, well, just shoot me like a full sentence. It's okay if you're that individual. I just did not have time for that individual at that moment. I'm interested. I'm very into this.

Yeah, it's not okay to be Elliot Chris, but that's a whole different conversation for another day. I love you, Elliot. Detroit, on the clock, Daigle, number two. Probably excited that Hodgon falls in their lap i believe the lions have zeroed in on cave on thibodeau if the jaguars draft if they draft according to plan but again i'm not expecting them to draft according to any plan i don't think they have a plan and so if the lions were not to pick aiden hudgenson if he fell here that's a

signal that something is wrong with the universe because the first thing you hear anytime a scout mentions Hutchinson is his work ethic. And we all know Dan Campbell loves a great work ethic. I'm also positive Campbell has seen Hutchinson's effort against the run on tape. That also pops. And then while Thibodeau led all edge rushers

at the combine with 27 bench reps for size and strength, Hutchison actually showed up to Michigan's pro day. He didn't compete in that at the combine, but he showed up to his pro day and did one more rep. He did 28 total. So Campbell sees all of this, and there's absolutely no way if Hutchison falls, he passes on Hutchison. Otherwise, I think the Lions are the spark or the wrench in everyone's mock draft that would go Thibodeau. What do you think, Connor? No, I 100% agree. I think that's great.

We also have a comment here from Silva, you know, Tony Khan trying to wrap out Trevon Walker's pass rush win rate, and Trent Baalke would absolutely say, what is pass rush win rate? I mean, just very textbook in terms of the Jaguars. They have no idea what they're doing. But, yes, Aidan Hutchinson here, second overall if he does not go first. I completely agree with Daigle that I think if Hutchinson goes one, that I definitely think that this is kind of where Thibodeau goes as well.

I think that that's kind of where they're at. I think that some of that early Thibodeau stuff is kind of passed and probably have to buy out of our Thibodeau over five and a half at some point because that seems like not a great number. Connor, three, Houston Texans. They're also on the clock at 13. They obviously have a lot of needs, new coaching staff. What do you think here with, not really new coaching staff, new head coach here with, with Lovey Houston Texans on the clock? Yeah. So from what I've been hearing, I guess that, and kind of the sources have been saying that like, you know,

they prefer Evan Neal to Ekim Akwanu. And I would probably lean him in this spot. So I just think that given that Walker's gone, Hutchinson's gone, I mean, I guess they could have, they could draft Thibodeau, but apparently Nick Casario is not super big on the character thing. You know, he comes from obviously a place where character matters.

So I think that in this spot here, I'm going to take Evan Neal. I think that that's probably my lean, but I think it's a toss-up. I think Aquan could very well go there as well. Also, he's over-under right now, three and a half. I've been really debating on taking some Neal third overall pick exact,

but I kind of wanted to wait until a little bit more information came out. It's plus 300 right now. The fact that Brandon Cooks and Larry Tunsil are making the most on their contracts on the Texans, by far, out of anyone else, makes them cornerstones. Tunsil also has a contract

for the next two years with them but if they do go a direction you could say okay well it'd be left guard or right tackle I could be an interior player um and that's where Neil does come in since he played 760 snaps at right tackle in 2020 and 720 snaps at left guard in 2019 so the fit makes sense also it is very i don't know odd i think telling is the word to use that among all their top 30 visits and they're throwing some guys that have no chance of drafting on their top 30 visits evan neal doesn't have a single top 30 visit with them and i think that's because they already know who he is i think they're already infatuated with them um especially given casario's patriots ties we know those ties run thicker than water to Nick Saban in Alabama.

So I just think the fit, like, as I said, with Hutchinson or Thibodeau, the wrench in everyone's mock draft, if he fell there to number two, Evan Neal is the ruiner of everyone's over-under props at number three, because I think the Texans have an eye on him. I like that. I didn't even think about the Alabama connection there too. Yeah. I think that, I mean, he's certainly getting into bettable range, I think for usans have an eye on him. I like that. I didn't even think about the Alabama connection there too. Yeah. I think that,

I mean, he's certainly getting into bettable range, I think for us, to be honest. I mean, he's like literally plus 300 plus three 50 to be number three overall. And I think in any scenario, barring Hutchinson falling to three,

he's probably their pick. I would push back on the Patriots thing being a, like a character thing. It's more so like a, they want guys that love football. They kind of want like the, they want a room full of like first in last it's more so like a they want guys that love football they kind of want like the they want a room full of like first in last out guys more so than like high character guys they've actually kind of been the team where they'll reach out to a guy that maybe didn't have

great character you know you think of Randy Moss where he was you know with the Raiders at the time Corey Dillon Albert Hainsworth like they They're not afraid to grab those guys with questionable character if they seem to be guys that they think love football. So I do think that the Alabama tie is an interesting one too here. Again, they do have Titus Howard and they are on the hook for Larry Metunsel. So it is interesting. Again, Neil is a guy that can play guard. Do you want to take a guard at third overall? We typically don't see that unless you think that you're going to be moving on from one of the other two tackles very soon. I don't necessarily think that that's the case. I think that they would maybe go with an edge here.

But again, I'm a tiebreaker. There was no tie. So you both pick Neal. Neal's going third to the Texans. We are back on the clock here for Daigle with the Jets. I'm glad I coincidentally ended up with this pick because I'm about to ruin everyone's mock draft. I think the fact that, and again,

my issue right now with mock draft season is that everyone hears a rumor and then goes to books and bets all of these rumors, right? Like it can be someone who doesn't actually mock historically, has no sources, and everyone still runs to a book and ruins that prop forever. With the Jets and Connor Hughes, I believe he does have strong sources within the Jets organization. And he seems pretty convinced they are not going to draft Ahmad Gardner, Sauce Gardner, who everyone else is picking them for.

We also know they are going to draft a wide receiver with one of their two picks. And I just ask, what if the steam gets so strong? And we're already getting there. What if the steam gets so strong on Jameson Williams that they can't wait to have him go to number six because the Panthers could trade out. And they know they need to pick him with a number four to make sure they jump the line because they can't wait for number 10. So I think there's a real strong chance that Jameson Williams goes at number four. Wow. I'm surprised that that's what you picked because I will be a rich man if that happens.

I sprinkled some 50 to one. Top five right now is still available, Jameson Williams. I looked for number four exactly1 top five right now. It's still available, Jamison Williams. I looked for number four exactly for the exact same reasons. I've heard that he's the number one receiver on the Jets board. I know that they like him a lot and potentially could go number five to even to the Giants or a trade down. I think it's a pretty wild pick, especially given everything that we see right now. But, I mean, let's roll with it.

All right, so they have a second pick at number 10. Do you think that there's a need to pass on? Because if they want an edge rusher, right, they have a ton of needs. Really, if you look at probably – they really have a ton of needs. So, edge rusher is definitely one of them. There's no chance, like, Thibodeau is going to be there at 10, where there are numerous scenarios where not only, obviously, Jameson is there or James Williams is there,

where we all agree should probably be the number one receiver. I think the fallback options there are better than the fallback options from a pass rusher standpoint. So I think that that's interesting. But again, I break ties. There's no tie to break. I also think that rumor about Thibodeau falling to the late top 10 mid first round

is because the Lions were the team that were interested or perhaps the Texans, but not in this range. Like I don't think the Jets are interested whatsoever in Thibodeau. I think he's the one that they would gloss over. And so maybe an interior lineman, like offensive line here, or like you said, maybe an edge rusher outside of that, but it still seems too early for that.

They know they can allow other guys to fall for 10. So that's where I'm going with this one. And again, I know I'm ahead of it. No one's there yet, and very well could be wrong. But I just think, and the fact that Jameson Williams was the number one overall by consensus wide receiver until that injury, I don't think it's something that matters in that we should look into this injury

and then try to predict for year two. Like they know if they want this player, good chance he's glossed, he's grabbed before they pick again at number 10. And so they leap the line at 10 years. We saw all this team today, right? Eight to the Falcons that, you know, I mean, that was like a lot of talk that they were saying that he's their top guy

and they're targeting. We're cherry picking like what we're giving credence to, right? So we're just in one breath, we're talking about how we're discrediting rumors because it's just this time of year. And then another, we're like, well, look at what happened today with all the Jameson Williams team. Jameson Williams has been like a drumbeat, though.

And this has been like two weeks, like two and a half weeks of full stuff. And it gets louder every single day. Yeah, but the top five stuff, I guess, is a little bit tough. I mean, other guys, I think that they're in play for Jermaine Johnson or play for Thibodeau here, certainly, as a pass rusher. I do agree with Dago, though. Probably pass rusher. It's a long shot that I'm trying to get ahead of.

That's the thing. I'm trying to be ahead of here, and I think it's where we get to. I think they go pass rusher, receiver. We're going to go receiver, and then hopefully for them, they can get Jermaine Johnson, who is a slightly worse Trayvon Walker, and I'd be fine with that because I hate the Jets. So we will add Jamison in here. How far are you going to scroll?

How far? Not that far. Because I had to actually take my mock draft out of here to add ours. And I had him, you know, within the top 10. So I'm fine with it. He's there. Like we didn't even touch on the fact that they, they continuously tried to trade for number one receivers on expiring

contracts around the entire league. And all those guys, AJ Brown, Debo Samuel, Tyreek Hill happened to happen to also be super fast. Yeah, guys, because they're trying to run the system that both Sala and,

uh, uh, big floor came from. So I just think it's like, it's genuinely the perfect fit. I'm with stags here. I think you grab an edge and then you have your choice of receiver. They should have been fired two years ago though.

So it doesn't like even their first year. It doesn't matter. Connor giants, five first two picks for the giants. You get two picks in a row for the giants. So five and seven, five first. Yeah.

I think this one actually for me is a pretty easy one. I think that they pick Sauce Gardner here with their first pick. He's a great fit in Don Wink-Martindale's scheme. Best pure corner in the class. Had great measurables. Didn't allow a single touchdown in coverage in college. I mean, just checks all the boxes, I think, for them here. I think that they also, in this scenario, Ikem Akwannu is still on the board. Hypothetically, if they think that the

Panthers will not pick a quarterback, they could go with Akwannu here. I think that they probably try and get their guy, which is Sauce. So I'll go with that here. But at the same time, I think that if they are planning on sitting tight here that that like five and seven um you know would would potentially i think that sauce is going to go in one of those picks but i'm just not sure which one and i guess it depends on how the top of the board plays out um so i guess actually let's in this scenario let's go with the quantum because i guess if this falls this way they're probably taking him over uh sauce because they know the panthers are very very very likely not to pick a corner. So let's go with Aquana.

All right, good change because there's no chance of the corner that they're taking Sauce at six after taking a top ten pick at this position. If Aquana is gone, though, I think that there's a chance – I think there's a good chance they pick Sauce at five. Why, though? It's the same situation. It's the same situation.

Yeah, but then they can take something else, though. The question we're trying to answer is, Ryan Bates and Brian Dable intelligent enough, forward-thinking enough to see that the Panthers aren't going to take a cornerback. And that answer could go either way. That's my concern here. Maybe they don't see that at all, and they still make sure they get their guy in Gardner.

Also, the Panthers don't have a need. It just is weird. I'm still not going to put him there. He's not. Also, the Panthers don't have a need. It just is weird. I'm still not going to put him there. He's not a fit for the Panthers. They don't need him. But, like, Gardner's the kind of guy they do historically draft. Like, they only draft elite athletes, and Gardner is that guy. Even trading for C.J. Henderson, it was still too early for the Jags to trade him,

but they're a donkey organization. We know that. But also, like, they handpicked C.icked CJ Henderson just because, you know, he ran a four, three, nine 40, a 91st percentile spark score. Um, also had like, he has 4% body fat and benches three 80 and 545 pound squat. Like they know the dudes they want in that lineup. And so Gardner fits that, but again, probably not going to take corner. Yeah.

And then stags brings up a good point here in chat. The Panthers could trade out. And this is something that Josh Morris has actually convinced me of, actually, in the last, like, I've been reading his tweets. And essentially, he's saying that Baker Mayfield or Jimmy Garoppolo will be theirs. So essentially, all of Scott Fitterer's comments saying, like, we need to keep drafting a QB. We need to, like, keep finding new QBs.

Basically, rotate until we find one that works. Which, like, I think we're all in lockstep that, you know, Sam Donald is not the guy. QB. We need to keep finding new QBs, basically rotate until we find one that works, which I think we're all in lockstep that Sam Donald is not the guy. But if they sign one of those guys, I think it changes the equation a lot for number six, because I think we were all very interested in picket to six because we didn't think that Mayfield and Garoppolo were in play, which has been all the reports until now, until like today, like five hours ago, it was tweeted like, oh, actually the Panthers are in on Baker Mayfield. So I think that changes a lot of things here.

So yeah, I think that that's actually the other kind of variable here. But for this mock, I say we go Aquano at five and then Dagle, you can make the pick at six. Saints also have added utility in the first round. And remember, one of the players they tried to trade up for last year was JCc horn and so if gardener's there perhaps they also skip the line with their extra capital i everyone wants to trade out this is not a draft where there's a ton of things and i totally agree with vr here because like yeah i mean i think the panthers they don't have a second and third round pick so like yeah they desperately want to get out of this pick um but again like part of it is for the process like they they just yeah i agree with daigle like sauce might be a guy that checks the boxes um he just i just can't imagine that they take

a corner um like daigle or like evan said it's really the only strength on the roster so um daigle you okay with uh with icky here at five and then, uh, Carolina six. Okay. Six on you, Diggle. Because the Panthers are taking Kenny Pickett. I know what Norris has been saying, and I know Panther supporters have been saying that the Panthers need to get swept off their feet in order to actually make a drastic pick like a

quarterback and number six overall. I don't think it takes much for them to get swept off their feet though, especially because they are still looking for an answer there. And they whiffed on every single other method they tried, not just last year, but the last two years as well. You're still a failing organization. I still think it's Kenny Pickett,

just given the fact that he has ties to Rule and recruiting him to Temple initially, full Rule bailed out and took the job at Baylor and Pickett then switched to Pittsburgh. So still very strong belief Pickett's going there, whether the Panthers beat writers wanted or not. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I think it's right now in my mind, it's pick it or in this scenario, Charles cross also a possibility or a trade down. I think those are the kind of the three options in this scenario. I agree with that. I don't understand a new gm is going to let a possible essentially lame duck

coach make a picket quarterback or the guy that he almost coached in college like i just don't i get like why there are ties and why there is obviously like he recruited him he committed there so it's not like they you know had met one time there's obviously a relationship there but like is kenny pickett going to save Matt rules job? And are you going to allow your soon to be exited coach to make your really first pick in your new role as a GM? I just, I don't, I think it's a smokescreen again, because they want to get out of the pick. So I think it's Charles cross.

They have a pretty crappy offensive line. I don't know that they know about pass block win rate or you know run block win rate either but they were like bottom three in both of them last year they have a crap offensive line they need help their cross is coming from you know mike leach's system where it's mostly you know air raid drops back a lot probably need some help as a run blocker but again i think he's probably a decent fit there too. So I get the picket thing. I just, I don't think it actually happens. I think it's, it's probably some of the just nuance of the draft. This is the other variable, right? So David Tepper went to pit, you know,

like sometimes we see owners force their hand like on, on GMs, but then again, like we've kind of seen, like the reports have been that he's actually been not involved at all in the football operations this offseason. So, and he doesn't really seem like the guy who's going to be like Jerry Jones, be like, no, we're picking Zekiel Elliott over, you know, whatever, Jalen Ramsey. He doesn't seem like that kind of guy. But, you know, it's not like their, you know, their draft has been stellar to this point with him. The problem is, is you don't throw a Kenny Pickett here. It gets pretty complicated in where to find home for him.

I mean, you know, again, we can suss it out. Daniel Jeremiah said his floor is 18 to the Saints, but you literally can't find a home for Pickett at all. No one would take him since we think the Steelers – well, we'll get to the Steelers at 20 later. Yeah. All right, I'm going to cross as a tiebreaker. Okay.

We have some comments from the chat to hurry it up go somewhere else don't want me i don't care we said we're gonna spend more details on the top 10 since daigle thought we were just doing strictly a top 10 and has more notes for that and then we zoom along that's Yeah. It's frigging two weeks away. Like, go. What are you going to watch an old rerun of Friends? Like, log off and watch it tomorrow or listen to the podcast? Like, I don't know. Whatever. Sorry.

This is Daigle's fault. Get me all riled up today, JD. Yeah, I know. All right, let's go. We'll roll with K-Bond Thibodeau at seven. Well, wait. Your original sauce gardener is still here. Oh, yeah. No, we're picking Sauce.

Sorry, Sauce is still on the board. Sauce, for sure. Don't need any explanation there. I think we're all in lockstep. Talk about it. Pick Sauce there, log out. Totally agree. Good with Sauce.

JD, eights. Atlanta. I have no idea. I definitely do not want to put a quarterback here since I truly believe the fact they restructured Matt Ryan's contract initially before trading him was to simply keep him because they're not happy with his class. I don't think it's Malik Willis.

I don't think it's Kenny Pickett. I think they're just going to take, since they have so many needs on defense, AJ Terrell didn't change despite being great. Hasn't changed the defense one iota. I think we either get Devin Lloyd or Jermaine Johnson here. I'm not sure which one for mock draft sake, I'm going to say Jermaine Johnson, but I really don't know.

Connor, what are your thoughts? I think kind of Garrett Wilson in this scenario, to be honest. Yeah, they could replace Calvin Ridley. I'm happy changing that. That's fine. Like I said, they have so many needs, man. I don't know. Yeah, like they could really go all over the board,

but it seems like everyone is also on wide receiver. Maybe that's wrong. Maybe that's group think, but it seems like this has to have come rooted from somewhere so also uh wide receiver to atlanta uh dalton cates played it today in our discord it was like plus 250 something like that i think that's viable anything above plus 200 or higher because it's probably like i think like a 50 50 shot wide receiver or anything else name name three receivers on the falcons right now not calvin ridley and cal and kyle pitts doesn't count i mean me or connor at this point i guess they will probably i'm not sure that i can like i mean they've lost like everyone so it's ugly dude it's yeah it's not good you know there's i mean Miss Zaccheaus, we have a lot of like Chad Hansons and Canary Hodge.

Christian Blake still on there. Christian Blake and Errol Hodge. It's not great, dude. It's, you know, so I think it's receiver. I think this is a great spot for Jamison Williams. Yeah, I agree. Doesn't go another option. If you happen to have a top 10 ticket on him,

I mean, this is a good spot also with uh with the jets there at either one of those picks so um i'm gonna go receiver here and i'm gonna go with uh with connor's pick of uh garrett wilson uh all right seattle to uh connor is that back to me okay um we will go with uh jermaine johnson um from my understanding i did this pick for me is between derrick stingley and jermaine johnson uh for the seahawks i think that they could also very well go quarterback they just had doesn't ridder top 30 visit today but uh it seems a little bit early for a guy like him so i probably just i'll say jermaine johnson why are you of the belief it's one of those two? I mean, based on some of the Seahawks, like insiders,

essentially that's who they were focusing in on. And at this point, like looking at kind of their needs, I mean, who would you bring up otherwise, I guess? Like, you know, like in this range, you know, it's hard for me to pinpoint, I guess, anyone else. Maybe, I guess Thibodeau at this point too, is probably very much in play. If Charles Cross is here, I guess, anyone else. Maybe I guess Thibodeau at this point too is probably very much in play. If Charles Cross is here, I imagine they go there.

I don't think they get away from offensive line at all. I think that's what they're pretty much penciled in with. So I think they go offensive line too, and I think Charles Cross is a pretty terrible fit for what I think that they want to do because we know that they want to just establish the hell out of the run. And Trevor Penning is a bulldozer of a human being, like 6'7". I saw his relative athletic score.

It's like sixth out of the last 35 years of the position. A big-ass dude that ran like sub-4, 9, 6'7", 3 1⁄4". I think he's just kind of a run-blocking mauler. It's a little early for, for penning, but that's who I'm mocking that position. Cause I think that works for what they want to do, establishing the run. And I mean, at this point I kind of agree with the board,

like Tibbs should be there. I can't really see them passing on someone like this, but again, is it a fit? Like Seattle has holes all over the place too. So you can make a case for the quarterback and go there, but I like penning, but again, you know, fit? Seattle has holes all over the place too, so you can make a case for a quarterback and go there. But I like Penning. But again, crosses off the board too. So do we throw Tibbs here?

Because he should be off the board. Do we gift the Giants the reverse order that we shouldn't have done originally? The Jets' needs at 4-10 are wide receiver, edge, O-line, and whichever two of three they want to address first. So they let the best player fall here and just go Thibodeau to stop the plumbing. And they address two of those three needs. So nine, who are you rolling with?

Thibs? Or are you rolling with Cross? Cross is off the board. He's in Carolina. Oh, yeah. He's off the board. And nine, or Penning, sorry. What do we want to do at nine first?

That's what we've got to figure out. I like Penning unless you guys have a – I think it's a little different. Silva made a case for Devin Lloyd. I know he bet a 12-1 Devin Lloyd ticket. Bobby Wagner replacement, classic week Carroll pick. I mean, I could certainly see it, especially in this scenario. Again, like I listed off two kind of lukewarm guys here that it's not like I have a ton of confidence. This is two that I think I've seen them been linked to.

So, yeah, let's roll. I think quarterback's viable there too. I'll break the tie and go pinning. I think it's offensive line. That's fine. Lloyd makes a lot of sense. I think it's offensive line though. All right, we're going to go in the wrong order.

Thibodeau should be four. Williams should be 10. But we get the point home. The Jets fans back ass into the right picks. Back to Connor at 11 on the Washington Commanders. Yeah, I'm going to go with Chris Olave here. I think that if Garrett Wilson's on the board, I think that they go with Wilson.

But I think that Olave is probably the guy here. I mean, I know that there's some stats about how often that Ron Rivera actually goes to visits or goes to pro days. This is one of them. He went to their pro day. And they obviously have a massive need of wide receiver. I think that there's been a lot of buzz about Olave at 11. I'm not sure I can find a great spot for him otherwise.

There's a couple others. But I think that at 11. I'm not sure I can find a great spot for him. Otherwise there's a couple others, but I think that 11 here, I'll go with a lobby. J.D. Lobby's fun. Connor cited everything. What do you know? All right.

Minnesota on the clock. Tagle number 12. It oddly enough, it doesn't matter a lobby for this year. Since Terry McLaurin's in the same boat, these targets from Carson Wentz do not matter in the slightest. It's the same project as last year, which is not good considering he was 25th and fantasy points per game,

I believe. And so, you know, drafting is the top 15 receiver and best balls. Really stupid. I believe Derek Stingley, we get them off the board here to the Vikings. The quarterback is their ideal fit.

That's what they're trying to grab here with the first pick. And the fact that as Vegas refund notes in the chat, a five-star recruit falls to them. They could absolutely use his athleticism in the secondary. So I'm going Stingley here. Yeah. I mean, also we got the whole, whatever, like Patrick Peterson narrative or whatever, like, you know, the LSU, you know, mentor kind of narrative. That should be your favorite actually, right?

The mentor, the mentor 2.0 right here for Daigle. Derek Stingley, Patrick Peterson. Do not dub that. I will dub the mentor 2.0 whenever it's called. It is not Patrick Peterson and Derek Stingley. I think this is the Stingley floor as well. I also do think that he is in play at nine for Seattle, but you know, offensive line is a same thing. I mean, obviously. He could certainly go to 11 too, I think this is the stingy floor as well. I also do think that he is in play at nine for Seattle, but you know, offensive line is a same thing. I mean,

obviously you can certainly go to 11 too. I think I just, you know, a lot of it has been kind of the hot name link there. Agreed. Yeah. I just think when you look at that Seattle offensive line, I kind of agree with Daniel.

It is really bad. They need someone there. And I think they probably address it early and they are one of those teams historically that have left us kind of scratching our heads at times where we're like, what was that in the first round? So I think that that's an interesting spot for Stingley to land at 12. Back to Connor, Houston, 13. They also picked three, obviously, already addressed the offensive line.

What's left for them at 13? Yeah, I think this is actually a great trade-down spot. We mentioned that we would talk about this. I think this is a great trade-down spot for them. But otherwise, since we're not going to project trades, I think Stagg's bringing up a good point here. Between Jordan Davis and Kyle Hamilton, I think this is where Hamilton's slide falls,

you know, kind of like ends. I would say that it was over under, opened up at five and a half, was sitting at six and a half for a while, and now it's all the way up to eight and a half. But to be honest, like, I mean, we just went through the top 10. We didn't even mention Kyle Hamilton once.

Right. I mean, his name has not come up until now. So, I mean, I personally think that he's going to fall out of the top 10. I think that he's still playable at eight and a half on the over. But yeah, this is where I would, I'm going to put him at 13. A couple of weeks ago, Dagle, he was like the prohibitive favorite to go number two overall. And then it was also the same for number three.

And now he just kind of, I don't know, nothing happened. He's still a safety. like the prohibitive favorite to go number two overall. And then it was also the same for number three. And now he just kind of, I don't know, nothing happened. He's still a safety. He was a safety when he was that type of prospect beforehand. I think we just fall out of love with safeties often. What do you think here with Houston? Houston is a disaster. They need everything as well. I think, I think, you know, Jordan Davis is in there.

I think George, how do you pronounce it? Kralaptis? How do you pronounce the Greek term of it? Kralaptis. I think he's know, Jordan Davis is in there. I think George – how do you pronounce it? Kralaptis? How do you pronounce the Greek term of it? Kralaptis. I think he's in play here. Yeah, they genuinely just need everything. Stingley, I think they would hope he falls. But, again, I really do have him mocked to the Vikings.

So they just need everything. I don't know. I don't have a definitive answer. Yeah, you had a bad pro day. I get it. Yeah, I mean,'re at a four seven i mean that is that is really really slow i mean especially pro days where you should be running faster than your your combine because they always use the times as as stags notes jordan davis and

kyle hamilton also makes sense here too yeah so all right i would say let's roll with Hamilton. Yep. All right, take Baltimore, 14. Also lots of needs, but I'm going to stop George Klapp disrupting here. I think it makes a lot of sense. I think Edge is still their number one need. He's a player we have seen routinely mocked in the mid-first around this range right now. I think his floor is somewhere around 14 to 16. I think that's where we should be looking at him at. So that's where I have here. Isn't his number like 18 and a half

Connor? 17 and a half or something like that? Yeah, let me check on that because Ravens have also been rumored to draft a quarterback here as well, but that doesn't make sense. Yeah, that was in Daniel Jeremiah's latest pod, right? Yeah, it just doesn't make much

sense. They have Tyler Huntley. They've also been rumored to trade. I mean, is latest uh pod right um yeah it just doesn't make much they have tyler huntley they also been rumored to trade i mean is lamar about to get suspended or something or no he's on he's on expiring contract and they they can't reach an agreement but they're not they're not even like close to the same number i would lay so much money on baltimore not drafting a quarterback here like that that seems like the most pre-draft, you know, to use a talking head to try to leverage a deal or something. Like I can't imagine that. Yeah, because I mean, yeah, there's just no –

I mean, especially in this quarterback class, I mean maybe if they somehow like Lamar got injured the whole season, they had a top five pick. But in this class, I mean specifically, it seems like pretty much no way. Carl Laft is over under 16.5, over minus 190, under plus 150 on 16.5. So if you like that, then, I mean, that's a pretty good bet. He keeps getting brought up in this range. Yeah, I mean, there's another guy that everyone loves who I don't think is –

I think another workout wonder is Jermaine Johnson who is, again, also still on the board. I think his over-under is significantly higher, is it not? The closest even money to go top 10. Who are you looking at? Jermaine Johnson. Oh, yeah. Jermaine Johnson is like over-under 9.5.

So, yeah, I think that he is also very much in play here. I think that he could go – he should go ahead of Carl Laftis, to be honest. We can change it. We haven't made it because I was just trying to get Connors. Okay. Yeah, I would say Jermaine should probably be the pick here. Yeah, let's go ahead and change it. And then next pick I think should be between Jordan Davis probably

and Carl Laftis. I think that's kind of the range we're looking at. First of two for the Eagles. Yeah. I mean, again, at this point we're looking at. First of two for the Eagles. Yeah. I mean, again, at this point, I don't really have a ton of conviction. I think some of the picks we have some links, but at this point there's a lot of kind of guys who they should go in this range. But I don't think we'll start in the next week or two,

kind of get more team-to-player connections in this 15 to 32 range. Yes, it gets a little tougher, especially when you have two picks. And Dalton brings up a good point. We have not picked Drake London yet. This is a great spot, actually, for Drake London. I think that he could go 10 to Jets if they don't pick for Jamison Williams and don't get a wide out four. I think he's a great selection of 10, assuming the Falcons pick,

you know, whatever, Jamison at eight. So I think that at 15, if he's still on the board, I would probably go London. I say pick your ride receiver because these next two picks, or at least one of these next two picks, both the Eagles and saints are going to be wide receiver. So take your pick of the lottery because the way they fall after Garrett Wilson, no lobby is it's pretty wild.

We'll go London there. I agree with Connor. I think London to 10 makes a lot of sense if Jameson Williams is not the guy. Just kind of fits with the rest of the guys they have on the staff. As far as Elijah Moore and Corey Davis, Braxton Berrios, I think a big body guy like London whose profile is like a Mike Evans, Kenny Galladay, even a Michael Pittman type, I think makes a lot of sense. Another big body receiver like London who's profiled like a Mike Evans, Kenny Galladay, even a Michael Pittman type I think makes a lot of sense. Another big body receiver to the Eagles.

Let's see if this one works. Back to Daigle in the Saints at 16. I want to get Traylon Burks off the board here just to keep on practicing later into the first round without him because I think him or John. He needs a log off and bet his over. His under. His under. Yeah, he's at like 23 and Giannis. He's a log off and bet his over. His under, his under. Yeah, he's at like 23 and a half. That's, I mean, that's. 23 and a half?

Yeah, he's expected to be the last among that group of wideouts. Don't the Saints take him with one of their picks? Eagles, there's been a lot of smoke, but Kimsky, Jimmy Kimsky, who is very on top of these things, seems to think that Burks actually isn't a real option for Philadelphia. But for either Arizona or New Orleans, I think he's definitely in play. I agree. No, I think that those are – there's some great fits for him coming up.

I mean, there's like – we've seen it here. There's like 10 wide receiver needy teams in the rest of the pick, like first round. So a lot of fits. All right. That's off the board to me for sure but i will take it that's the part of the process he is i think maybe a guy that we like in the you know dynasty prospect community more so than teams um we'll see we'll see um okay so here, I mean, we heard that the Chargers are not really happy with their cornerback room.

So I think that a cornerback probably makes sense here. So if we're looking at corner, looking at a guy like maybe like Trent McDuffie, you know, I mean, then it gets a little bit further down the board here. So, yeah, I think that probably McDuffie is probably good to slot in here. But, I mean, then it gets a little bit further down the board here. So, yeah, I think that probably McDuffie is probably good to slot in here. But, I mean, that's what the latest bit here was, that they're not the Chargers, like, really want to upgrade at corners. So I think that that could be the pick. Tossed a ton of money at J.C. Jackson.

But, again, could double down and add a corner here for sure. What do you think, J.D.? That's fine. They have no needs. They're literally the perfect team that's going to screw it up again. Well, Linton Davis. We're getting hate for wide receivers in our top 10 here, but it's okay. Yeah, he's just pointing out.

He's right, but at the same time, we're going to be right, so it's all right. The over-under was five and a half of receivers, and that was a bad number. When we literally think six to eight i think eight are gonna go oh my god that would be christian christian watson's getting all kinds of buzz at the end of the first round teams are much teams are much higher on dotson than we think uh i think he's in play for the eagles for sure i think dotson's in play in this range for sure i i kind of think this has to be jordan davis's floor like i feel like he probably could have been the pick to houston at 13 see i keep forgetting who where he's gone yeah i think we this needs to be Jordan Davis's floor. Like I feel like he probably could have been the pick to Houston at 13. See, I keep forgetting where he's gone.

Yeah, I think this needs to be Jordan Davis. I think that's the pick. Again, like he very well could have gone in the last couple of picks just before that too. And if he falls in those teams that we already drafted receivers for, like I said, it's about filling out, for me anyway, for the Saints and Eagles, it's about filling out a receiver with one of those two picks for each. And if a player like

Jordan Davis falls, they probably take him and they grab a receiver with the next one. Back to the Eagles for Daigle. Some of the, I think, you know, linebackers that we had talked about earlier are still on the board here. That seems to be in need for Philadelphia on the defensive side. But what do you think they do here with their second of two firsts? Since Devin Lloyd is someone who's getting talked about at the end of even the top ten, let's just get him off the board here. I think it makes a lot of sense. Connor?

He's a player. When you get to the end of the first round and you're making sure you squeeze guys in just to have the mock names correct, you're not leaving out Devin Lloyd. making sure you squeeze guys in just to have the mock names correct. Who is it? Like you're not leaving out Devin Lloyd. Yeah, let's go with Devin Lloyd. This may be early for the range,

but you're not leaving them out of your first round. Yeah. All right, so Saints here. I think that we're looking at Willis. No quarterbacks have gone, right? We've not drafted any quarterbacks. Yeah, that's bad. I think that in this spot, if the Saints are still on the board, I think they probably trade up again to like 13 in that range for a guy that they like. If Willis or Pickett is there, I think Pickett's kind of a low key good fit with the Saints.

You know, a little bit pro ready, fairly accurate, maybe not the biggest arm. But again, you know, that's not necessarily what they've needed for the last 15 years with Drew Brees. So I think that Kenny Pickett here certainly could fit. And them and the Steelers are both rumored to quarterbacks here and very heavy in the quarterback market. So again, I think they trade up, but in this spot, probably go Pickett. That's fine. I don't know. Like I said, in my mock, I have Pickett. That's fine. I don't know. Like I said, in my mock, I have Pickett to Carolina at six.

I don't know where Pickett goes if he doesn't go to Carolina. Even though Jeremiah thinks this is the range, I don't know why any of these teams would take him over Malik Willis or Desmond Ritter, all who I don't think are good either. I think the whole class is bad. So I just think teams are significantly higher on Ritter and Willis in that order. The issue is when we get to 20 up here next is that they are very clearly higher on Willis than Ritter. So they're the wrench in this whole debacle.

Quarterback's fine. Quarterback's fine. All right, we'll give it to Kenny Pickett. Pat, Noonan, I think you've got to make a guest pick here. I don't need to – or you've got 28 Steelers. I think Dale wanted to go Willis, right? That's what – I mean – I think that that makes a ton of sense if he happens to be there

and they can, in a similar way to what the Patriots did last year, is able to kind of stay home and get a guy that everyone – or at least address a position that everyone had them kind of pegged for. So that will work out very well for the Steelers. The Patriots, I would be shocked if they make the pick. They just don't typically make their first-round picks very often. They understand that this is a crapshoot and understand that the best bet is to get as many shots at the board as possible.

They have a number of needs. They, again, lost J.C. Jackson, so cornerback makes a lot of sense. They let Shaq Mason go, so the offensive line, especially on the interior, makes a lot of sense. Again, you have some holes all over the place, and there's some guys that have slid a little bit too. I could see them adding Zion Johnson, internal offensive lineman, Boston College kid,

that they're probably seeing a lot of in person over the last couple of years. But, yeah, I can go a lot of different ways who do you got Connor yeah I I think originally I had like one of the offensive linemen like maybe like Kenyon Green or something like that I you know it's again it's just like a total crap shoot I think yeah it's a guard though that fits the you know the Shaq Mason hole that they need to – they like to have six offensive linemen pretty often. It's kind of like a thing that they've been at about having that detailed ability to flex guys in and out, knowing you're going to lose some guys. So let's go offensive line for the Patriots.

They're not going to take anybody, but I'm going to go with Zion Johnson here because I don't think either of you will have a big complaint here. I don't even know if he's going to be in my first round. But yes, offensive line, I agree. Daigle, 22. Green Bay. Now the question is, do the Packers go receiver here or wait? I don't think. I'm not of the belief they're going to double dip. It's just a matter of when and who they want to pick. Dotson or George Pickens, I think are their options here. I also think the Cardinals are in play for a receiver next.

So I will go Dotson. I'm not sure that's the one, but I'll go Dotson just to get him off the board and play around with the end. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I originally would, that's what I was debating on between. I originally had them at Olave falling like here somehow, you know, if he didn't go 11. But, you know, again, I think that there's like 10 teams here that are wide receiver nudity.

So I'm more than fine slapping whichever wide receiver you think fits best. I like Dotson here, too. The game makes a lot of sense for them. And that cashes are over on the wide receivers in the first rounds we didn't have fantasy guys with another receiver box checks here could do another one here to arizona probably have some more for you too so uh hold on to your butts um what do you got here connor arizona yeah it sucks is both the wide receivers i had a lot of them which were dotson and trail on burks are already off the board um you know, I don't really want to reach on that.

I guess, do you guys have any other, like, you know, selections that you guys love here? Just because based on what I've seen, like, this is like, I mean, it seemed like they, I've heard they've been eyeing wide receiver, but at the end of the day, like, you know, all of the wide receivers, except for, I mean, there's Christian Watson, there's Sky Moore.

We're both still in play here. Probably at this point, I guess, yeah, they brought in like Dalton Rears with a point, McDuffie to Arizona. I mean, he's expected Moore. We're both still in play here. Probably at this point, I guess, yeah, they brought in, like, Dalmari is a good point, McDuffie to Arizona. I mean, he's expected to be a teens player, and now we're sitting at 23 and he's still on the board. Yeah, the guy at McDuffie going to Philly with one of those picks. Yeah, so I think that's probably a good look here.

All right, McDuffie. This is the best point, though. Just take whoever Schrager says for the Cardinals with their last mock draft, as Anthony Mikko likes to point out uh multiple times you know it's the same for last mock draft is definitely is like always clutch same for jeremiah and jets he's usually jeremiah jets the decider on what the jets are actually going to do for sure yep and this is the process you know again that we're two weeks out we're trying to decipher what we know now what the markets are telling us trying to have trying to have a little bit of fun with this conversation.

It's obviously don't get big mad online about our mock draft today and take it too seriously. Tagle. We're taking, we're taking it seriously. So get as mad as you want. We may have not taken the, what the subject was of this pod seriously until we got on.

But nonetheless, not taken the what the subject was of this pod seriously until we got on but nonetheless if trailing burks is not on the board given his arkansas ties to jerry jones that's the one receiver jerry jones actually said out loud the cowboys are interested as well if he's not on the board i think they have offensive lineman bullseye they don't have any other options they don't want to do anything else they've already mentioned interior offensive line is a problem. That's where they're going to go. So I'm going Kenyon Green. I agree with that one. Connor, any strong

disagreements? Nope. Let's hear it. What is it? I think Silva brought up that they like Zion Johnson, the Cowboys. I would still go Kenyon Green over Johnson, but we also in this practice took Zion at 21. But I think the point is offensive line. That's what the Cowboys are going to do.

That's really what I'm using this practice for is this position is what I believe this team will do. I'll figure out the players in a bit. Yep, 25 is interesting to the Bills. Again, the team we obviously think is mostly ready to continue to compete. Connor, 25, not a ton of holes what do you think that they do here yeah i mean there's been a lot of links to breeze hall uh i'm not really buying it to be honest i don't know it just seems like it's not really that strong enough

connection and they've been largely a little bit smarter in their draft i think that uh either daxton hill or care elite elim are like both good fits here. You know, and I think that they could use either one of them. So, I mean, I know, so Daxton right now is whatever, 19th on Daniel Jeremiah's big board, I think 18th on Lance zero lens. And I think that, you know, like those are actually the two big boards that actually matter because they're, you know, like at least reasonable guys who could, you know, could at some point perform in the NFL as acting in a role.

So I think that their big boards matter, and they also take feedback from teams. Also, both of them, or at least J.R. Meyer has them in the first round. So I think that Daxton Hill makes sense here. But again, I think he makes sense in two or three other picks here as well. So I don't really have too strong of a lean, but I think that they probably go that way. I'm not really not buying the Brees Hall stuff, to be honest. Problem here is that Jackson Hill, I don't know, safety, corner. Safety is a strength for this team.

Do they feel it? You can play like everywhere, though. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is I think it's going to take one team to just decide, okay, I'm confident putting him on the other side of Tredavious White and he's going to be our corner and we have a great secondary. that would be a great secondary i just don't know if that's um what they think again it'll take one i know he's obviously i agree he's a first round pick he's obviously ascending we took some first round money on on dax hill um i like the player quite a

bit um what do you think here dingo i am somewhat the Brees Hall hype, the fact we've had numerous reporters discuss it. Also that McDermott has been looking for any amount of explosiveness in the running game. That's also why they signed Matt Breida before they just healthy scratched them because they literally just want explosive runs. Devin Singletary played great towards the end of the year, but Zach Moss and Devin Singletary, they drafted exclusively for their broken tackle rate. And then they realized once they got to the league, these guys break tackles, but they don't bust off long runs because they're not explosive. Like they break tackles and straight because they're slugs. So I really do think they're

looking for a home run hitter or a strong third down option. Brees Hall does both just in having 93 career receptions in college as well. That's an immense number across four seasons. So I think it is Hall. Also, I have sprinkled, this is an unofficial bet. I sprinkled James Cook as the first running back. I think we're hearing the drumbeat pretty loudly enough for him and no other teams mentioning Brees Hall that it makes me interested enough to say, okay,

well, there's a wild card here for a player to go over Brees Hall. So I think this is where I'm putting him, but also I did sprinkle because the number is so good at 50 to one, something like that. I'll have to look at it for James Cook to be the first running back. Yeah, like 35 to one. I also was kind of talking about with some other people today like as the running back it's later and later and we have less of a concrete fit to a player team i think it's way more volatile like all it takes is one team viewing a guy like james cook higher than them especially if we if they get no running backs in the first round you should not be laying breese hall at anything more than like minus 150 uh you know like i think that that's like now we're at

minus 300 i think it's actually like an egregious price because even though breese hall might be a better prospect in the second round i mean anything can happen like these teams are just all over the place they could totally view these prospects differently in the first round i think we have a little bit more concrete example of which teams like which running back i mean we saw it whatever two years ago cladron soler went over two prospects that everyone viewed as better uh and was Chiefs' last pick of the first round there. And so I think it just gets way more volatile now in this range than what we're used to.

Yeah, I mean, I don't have Hall going there, but if, you know, Daigle feels confident in it, I kind of with Connor. I think Connor, but I don't know if Dax is the guy. It's just kind of a tricky we don't have a much of a consensus here to uh to get down on i think there are questions i thought booth made a lot of sense here but the reports today about concerns around his hernia surgery um you know if he's going to be you know if he can hang uh evan wants to talk about james cook as a potential

rb1 i think from a fantasy standpoint as a pass catcher um you about James Cook as a potential RB1. I think from a fantasy standpoint, as a pass catcher, he profiles as a terrific fantasy back. Be interested to see if someone actually wanted to take him over Walker and Hall when it comes to being on the clock. But I think from a fantasy standpoint, it's going to be very, very interesting. Also, if Daxton Hill is declared a cornerback in the draft, I'm sure you've sifted through this already. That means over one and a half safeties, we still need someone besides Kyle Hamilton, correct? Yeah, you need Louis Sine.

But, I mean, the chances are – That's why, Connor, when you texted one and a half, Noonan and I weren't sure about it. And that's why – I mean, I think that that chance is like really, really slim at this point. But also, kind of going into that bet as well. I know ETR played it at minus 200. I mean, we hit it at minus 130, minus 170, and I hit it minus 180.

So, I mean, I think that scene sneaks in, but I also think Hill is like a locked in first rounder pretty much at this point. It's about the designation. It's not even about Hill. Yeah, it's not about Hill. It's about. Right. I mean, I haven't. I know he can play corner, but there's been no, like.

In his report, he's been mentioned about switching to corner. Yeah. I mean, I get that at some point. I don't count him as a safety. That's my issue. So I'm not, there are a lot of sharp people on it at minus 180, minus 200. I'm not as high on that number as everyone else. I agree just because I don't know yet

We haven't seen that and I feel like That in itself is speculative and I want to make sure that we get that I know we can play it but I want to see What they classify him as The Louis Queen hype was like Some guy on a Waffle House just tweeting he had sources That's it, I haven't seen anything else besides that Alright, let's go Hill

We'll go Hill here It's going to be a corner he's an exciting player he's ascending he's not going to be labeled as a corner he'll be labeled as safety he can play corner but he's never been labeled as a corner in his entire like career okay well for the sake of here they don't even know what to do with him they put him as db yeah that's what everyone else's corner they put him you know so again no one's arguing if he can play the position i'm talking about a designation that would classify him as a safety to cash the draft props i don't know what that's gonna be yet yeah tennessee 26 to daigle um some thoughts and discussion around a quarterback i don't see that per se um seems like a stretch for a team that

just continues to hang around and maybe overperform and is in the playoff mix every year very winnable division again i don't know that taking a quarterback currently makes a lot of sense for them but i could be wrong if they happen to have a guy that they like here and i've seen some sharp people take some speculative looks along at that. What do you think Tennessee does here, Diggle? They're also so piss poor and using their high draft capital intelligently. Multiple injured players in the first round the past couple of years, including Isaiah Wilson,

who I don't think he played a single snap for them eventually due to other reasons. But man, they're so bad at drafting. That's why quarterback would, like the smoke that is coming for that, does make sense. I don't know. Someone help me out. I don't have a lean.

Take a plummeting player. Yeah, like who do we have left on the board that's been falling? I'm sure that we have not been going in consensus order at all. Offensive lineman from Iowa still here, Tyler Lindbaum, who I think people liked. Karlaftis is still on the board, though. Karlaftis is still on the board. We fucked that up. I think in my... I didn't have...

I think I had Karlaftis somewhere earlier, but I think I had Devontae Wyatt going here in the mock that I have coming. Again, I think all these guys should probably be off the board, but again, I'm clicking the buttons. I don't necessarily agree with all the picks.

So I can go either way here. I think that both of these guys, Karlaftis, Lindenbaum, this is a good spot for Wyatt. I think they should all kind of be off the board. So what do we think the best here, Karlaftis? Yeah, I mean, Karlaftis is over under 16.5. Lindenbaum's is 27.5. Wyatt's is now, thanks to our friend over here, Vegas Refund, open at 14.5, is now at like 20.5.

I haven't checked since he posted that, but it's probably going to close in the 20s is what I'd guess. All right, let him slide. Tampa Bay, another team that's being talked about, obviously, with addressing some internal offensive line issues. What do you got here uh it's on connor yeah i think i think offensive line or uh i mean why it is fine too i think why it's interesting or we could go uh offensive line i think either one taylor any thoughts here decent needs relative for both i think it's offensive line they pretty

much they pretty much shored up their secondary they brought back everyone once tom brady announced he was coming back and in losing jordan whitehead like other secondary players like that they signed their replacement in free agency so they're pretty stocked already in outside of interior offensive line all right interesting green bay second of two here in the first, 28. To Daigle, what do you think they do? I don't think they double dip at wide receiver either. Who's a player that we need to get off the board?

What about we go linebacker, Quay Walker? I mean, that's interesting. He's got a little bit later. That's who I have here. I have Quay Walker. You have Quay? Okay, well, I mean, that's interesting. He's got a little bit later. That's who I have here. I have Quay Walker. You have Quay? Okay, well, I mean, that's destiny right there. That's cool. Let's do it.

Actually a good football player from Georgia's defense as opposed to the number one overall pick. Back-to-back for the Chiefs, starting with Connor, you get one here. Obviously, this is the Niners pick. Lots of talk about, well, they have actually surprisingly a decent amount of holes, considering that they have been, you know, predominant force in the league for a couple years. Yeah, I mean, I think that we could talk about a wide receiver here. I mean, a guy like Christian Watson could make a lot of sense.

There's, again, there are a lot of different holes. You know, maybe Andrew Booth could make a lot of sense in this spot as well. I think, again, at this point in the draft, they can go any which direction. They have two picks in a row. So let's just make these picks together, Dagle. What do we want to target for them? I mean, we have two picks here.

I agree. Christian Watson, make that one pick, please. And he's being most frequently connected to the Chiefs. That's why i think he sneaks into the end of the first round no matter what we think of his poor profile and connor make the second one we have a couple guys here connor that are interesting we've seen some edge guys some rushers like um boy mafe uh wyatt again still you know interior offensive linemen still on the board a lot of people like dean again another georgia bulldog who performed well again you know charts um testing off the charts there um some interesting prospects i think logan hall is interesting elam if you think that they go for the quarterback. Elam, yeah, yeah. Elam, yeah. He's been getting a lot of buzz as a first-round player.

All right. Let's go Elam. I guess it's my pick again. Bengals. This is where it's going to get interesting. We're doing mock drafts. And it's like you don't always necessarily – again, we're not doing trades. But this is where those spots where you start to get into like trading in

to get that fifth-year option for the quarterback or know some teams like the lions pick at 32 and 34 if they had someone that they really like like that's kind of why i don't think they go quarterback at two because i don't think they have to i think if they actually really like one of these quarterbacks i also think they like jared golf more than we do but they have 32 and 34 if they want to get back into like the mid-teens they have the ammo to do so so just something that's interesting to see here i mean for me if i'm making the last whatever like for me i had penciled in here lewis scene and then does dasmond ritter to close out the first round um but again you know that's that's just again like my kind of my guess also tyler smith uh a

guy that we like to go first round that we don't have in our first round i got tyler smith going 19 to the saints yeah i think that he could easily replace any of the offensive linemen that we had on the board again you know like after like pick 15 16 i think we're a little bit too far out and a little bit it's a little bit of a rough uh draft here we have people asking for a mock tomorrow and then Silva saying another one right now. Bengals, yeah. Not sure. Closing out with Desmond Ritter, though. Yeah, we'll do scene at 31.

I know there's been some other people mocking that as well. And then, yeah, I think Ritter goes round one. There was some quotes today, whatever, multiple sources said that a bunch of teams have round one grades. Oh, yeah. It's not just round one. of teams have round one grades. Oh, yeah. It's not just round one. It could be QB one. Yeah.

Yeah. I know some of the ETR played that like 25 to one. I grabbed a little bit at 22 and a half to one. I mean, again, a little bit like a sprinkle, but I mean. I grabbed 25. You grabbed some 25. Yep. That's why the Lions don't screw this up or anything at number two because they will get a great player,

and they know they can wait until the back of the first round for a quarterback. Yeah, and again, they have 34. So they can move up if they really fancy a guy. They think if Pickett's there. Same thing, part of why I don't think the Saints get a quarterback, maybe they take one that falls in their lap. I think if they really were trying to get a quarterback with that trade-up with Philly, like, I think they'd move up even more.

But, again, in this instance, they fell into their lap. So, yeah, that's fun. Hey, I'm up for doing another one tomorrow, Connor. I don't know if you're free. And Daigle's golfing. You know, we can digest this one, talk about it, continue to do some more shows here in the next coming weeks.

Daily mock drafts. We can start our own different podcast. There's mock draft today until the end of the full draft. Have a different guest. They will get more mock drafts because, Noonan, you have your mock draft coming out Friday morning. Yeah, almost done. Been working on it all day. Excited about that.

I think I'm putting mine up Tomorrow night Thursday night Trying to work around that Maybe Friday morning with you, I don't know But yeah, two mock drafts in the next 48 hours So they will get their answer Love it, you're going to need to have a Well, I don't know, we'll decide what we want to do

I guess that's kind of up to me Are those going to be free on the site for folks Or do you need to get a subscription You should probably get a subscription anyway we'll maybe make them free um we'll see uh maybe the final mock was behind the paywall i don't know we'll figure it out but uh i was exciting we appreciate it uh again appreciate the feedback uh candid as it is as always mostly friends in the chat so we could take it uh we don't mind you uh you know hammering us with your take.

We will be back to do this definitely next week on Wednesday again, maybe with some guests, talk a little bit more draft. We'll have a little bit more information, maybe some more intel. Pano. Pano is back from the dead. I don't even have my mic or video. Luis, supply me with a

sure pin mic I can use on the road. Yeah, Dagle's out golfing. One more week, one more episode with guests, and then the big prop show in two weeks, the Wednesday night before the first round with Kanish and Evan Silva as well. So two weeks for that, two weeks for the main event. Have we booked Kanish and Silva? Did we tell them that they're coming? No, we haven't really asked. No, you booked Silva as well. So two weeks for that, two weeks for the main event. Have we booked Kanish and Silva?

Did we tell them that they're coming? No, we haven't really asked. No, you booked Silva 12 hours before. No, I know that. And Kanish acts like he's busy, but he'll be here. He's fine. Kanish is not busy.

I mean, he's just like got to clean up the rest of his trash by his trailer and eight mile. I mean, that's about it. He's betting WNBA futures on his phone. He's available. So we'll find him. So that'll be draft Eve.

So that'll be good stuff. So as always, for Connor and Diggle, I'm Nubia. We'll see you next time. you