Move The Line - 2023 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 + Our Favorite Prop Bets!

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

2023 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 + Draft Prop Bets from Ryan Noonan, Connor Allen & Scott Smith.TIMESTAMPS:0:00 Intro6:06 Round 1, Pick 1 12:37 What Could The Bears Get In A Trade For Justin Fields?13:40 Round 1, Pick 219:22 Round 1, Pick 321:50 Round 1, Picks 4 & 525:28 Round 1, Pick 627:56 Round 1, Pick 730:25 Round 1, Pick 831:54 Round 1, Pick 937:04 Round 1, Pick 1041:20 Round 1, Picks 11 & 1246:04 WR Prop Bets49:49 Jordan Addison To The Patriots?50:10 Round 1, Pick 1351:32 Round 1, Pick 1552:48 Round 1, Pick 1655:05 Round 1, Pick 1756:55 Round 1, Pick 1858:09 Round 1, Picks 19-221:02:47 Round 1, Picks 23-261:06:55 Round 1, Picks 27-311:11:30 OutroSHOW NOTES: Subscribe to 4for4's Betting Package 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/plansFollow 4for4 on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4footballFollow 4for4 Bets on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4betsFollow Move the Line on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/MoveTheLineNFLFollow Connor on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/ConnorAllenNFLFollow Ryan on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/RyNoonanFollow Scott on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/scottsmithffVisit our Website 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/Join our Discord 👉🏼 http://discord.gg/4for4Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3OupraJ4for4 Betting Strategy Hub 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3hm39cw4for4 Betting Picks 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3LUp0EaRead Scott’s Mock Draft 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3IuTxbs

Hello and welcome to Move the Line. It is draft season. It never stops. This is our favorite time of year. Ryan Noonan joins, as always, in the space, familiar face. Connor, you know, technically this is the start of the next season, which would make this our sixth year doing this together. How are we doing, my friend?

Good. Has it really been that long? I mean, that's crazy. It's like, I mean, almost a fifth of my life I've been doing this podcast with you at this point, which is pretty wild to think about, but there's literally no better time of year to make money than the NFL draft. So couldn't be more excited about this. And I'll let you kick it to our new guest here because I'm stoked to have him on board here.

We are in silly season a little bit. It is as we record this, you know, late February, we are pre-free agency. We are pre-combine. We are not pre-mock draft season and we are not pre-market season. There are some things out there, even a little bit more than what we've seen in the past. Joining us in this space is a member of our team who's often doing other stuff. Has his hand deep in the dirt in the MMA spaces where he's very connected. He's been pumping out tremendous MMA content for us for almost a year at this point. And he's also been one of the best mock drafters in the space for a number of years,

formerly at the Action Network. It is our friend Scott Smith. Scott, welcome. Good to have you on. How y'all doing, guys? A little bit under weather today, but look, it's draft season, so we've got to grind through it. A little congested, but look, we're going to get through it. And I'm pumped to be on board.

You know, I've kind of watched you guys from afar for a little while, and I'm happy to be part of your team. And I think we've got a lot of good content that we're going to pump out here throughout draft season with some guests and some other shows. And you guys talked about it. This is the softest market of the year is the NFL draft. You know, it's fluid throughout the year. It moves leading up

to draft time you have the combine you have free agency uh you know some pro days are also going to move the line so if there's a spot throughout the year that that you have the advantage on the on the markets and with the line movement this is it yeah information markets are completely different right we can get into handicapping games we can get all all those things where you know it's definitely, especially in NFL sides, totals. We talk about that all the time on Move the Line. The sharpest markets out there.

Information markets are completely different. And when you have access to information, that is a very, very different piece and oftentimes ahead of the books. Very, very profitable last season, both in the NFL and NBA markets. Looking to continue that for you here. Bringing Scott into the fold, who might have some different sources

and different connections as well, I think is only going to make that better for our subscribers here at 444. So we're going to continue to do these shows all offseason, but obviously a draft-centric focus here as we lead up to the late April draft behind me in Kansas City. Cool for the Chiefs to not only host it after winning the championship here, Super Bowl, just last week. So stay plugged in. Subscribe to our YouTube channel here, 444Bets,

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You can get a new subscription for the entire year. If you just want to access us and get a taste of what we have to offer and get into the draft-specific sub, we have a three-month subscription available for you coming very shortly. If you are a pick'em player, you like to get into the, you know, all those different markets, maybe you don't have full betting markets. Vivid is a partner of ours. If you download the Vivid app, use promo code 444, deposit $15, you can get a betting subscription for three months through the drafts. I was going to cover basically everything that we have going on on the site. You'll get some of Scott's MMA stuff. We have NBA, we have college hoops.

Connor's going to be digging into college props here soon. What else am I missing? Connor, 15 bucks at Vivid, right? No. Yeah, that's about it. And I just for reference here with how excited we are to get Scott on board last year, we won over 40 units on the draft. Officially subscribers were telling us they want a lot more because we obviously dropped some breadcrumbs in the chat. We talk about different things in the show as well. And then now Scott, that was before Scott was even an official part of our team. So Scott's going to bring that only to a new level. I mean, this is easily, easily the best batting day, you know, of the year for me and easily

the most money I make every year. So it's, it's an awesome time and definitely recommend only 15 bucks to get in there and hang out for a couple of months. It's totally worth it. Yeah. Subscriber discord, I think pays for itself. And that's where a lot of the action is. Again, your light-minded community, a lot of people that are, you know, grinding any

mock draft that comes out, you know, bouncing ideas back and forth. It's a great place to be. Definitely will pay for itself. promise uh in draft season so uh scott's first is up on the site you'll have myself connor john daigle over the next couple of months but we're gonna kind of digest what's going on uh with the first first pick so we'll start there Scott mocked the trade and that's what I think is going to be interesting to see is are people mocking the trade with the Bears a lot of speculation of what they're going to do there I'll kick it to you Scott talk about the trade that you made and how you want to talk about this first pick so look this is my first mock draft of

the year my process usually like kind of just goes throughout the time as more information comes in. What I really try to do is nail down on this first mock draft the possibilities that are going to happen within the top ten. I think when you start looking at this, Chicago's pretty set at quarterback. There has been some speculation that they could go ahead and make a trade and draft a quarterback, but I just don't see that happening. In this first go-round, I had the Colts trading up what that would take. You know, it could be two first and a third. It could be, you know, a first, a second, maybe another first the following year. Who knows?

That's going to be for the GMs to work out. But, you know, I look at Indianapolis Colts. Frank Reich, who has moved on to Carolina, has recently been fired. And that is specifically because of the quarterback situation. They went ahead and tried to go the veteran route by going Carson Wentz and then Matt Ryan again this year. Neither of them worked out, and so they have a roster that you would think should make the playoffs if they had decent quarterback play.

I have them moving up with Chicago from the four spot, and here I have them taking Bryce Young, who from a talent standpoint has everything you can offer. A lot of people compare him to a miniature Patrick Mahomes with some of the arm angles and some of the throws he makes. The big red flag with him is going to be his size. And that's what you're going to be looking for at the combine to see what he weighs in at. There has not been a starting quarterback that has succeeded

at that weight and that size that he's at. They're expecting him to weigh in somewhere around 195 pounds. And you just have to wonder, can he take the beating that is going to happen in the NFL at that weight and that size? Now, the other information that is floating around there, you have seen Will Levis, who has his detractors. And Will Levis has been the other quarterback that has been heavily connected with Indianapolis so you know throwing it here for my first mock draft I think you're gonna have a team moving up and I landed on the Colts and them selecting Bryce Young here Connor before we get into like the first quarterback market because I Scott touched on that that is one of the markets that's out there now. Talk about the bears in the train, because there are,

I think a lot of questions about how they approach this. And I think it becomes less about Justin Fields and more about just team building, right? Because we know that the magic bullet in the NFL for the most part is unless you have a Patrick Mahomes is that quarterback on a rookie contract and the thought process around moving off of Justin Fields is that you basically reset your window for two years right Justin Fields is now entering the third year of his rookie contract if you are not sure if he's the guy and we obviously have questions around limitations

of him as a pocket passer I think his ability as a playmaker, his ability with his legs, that's indisputable. But the Bears have a ton of question marks. And are they just two or three years, one free agency? Because, right, they have a ton of cap space. They have the number one pick. Does it make sense? I mean, I think it makes sense.

Do you think that they really even entertain the thought of moving Justin Fields? Because, again, there are a lot of viable suitors out there. A lot of question marks, the quarterback, what are your thoughts as far as what Chicago should do with this draft capital position? All of it.

Yeah. I mean, I think there's, they have three options right now and two of which I think are both good. And so the first one is to trade down, collect multiple assets. So in Scott's Machia, I'm trading down with the Colts.

I think that's actually probably the most likely scenario at this point, I think makes the most sense. But the Texans, the Panthers, the Seahawks, the Raiders, all Falcons, all in the top 10 are all very viable to trade up options. And I think at the end of the day, if they want to keep fields, they get a trade done. So that's option one of the options. Another option, they keep fields or they trade away fields and keep the number one pick and take a quarterback there. And I do think that that's actually a viable option. I know there were rumors actually before they even got the number one pick, but they were looking to shop fields and not only beyond just the rookie contract issue. I mean, Ryan pulls in draft this guy. He hasn't progressed a much as a passer now, given he has no weapons. And I think that it's

hard for this conversation to be had with people in Chicago, because they say, oh, well, he's awesome. He willed them to some games that they could have won, which is totally true. He is one of the most dynamic runners, undoubtedly, in the ball of his hands. But at the same time, just because he wasn't good with bad options doesn't mean he will be good with good options. And I think that that's kind of the issue. So I think it's viable. But personally, I think the most likely outcome here is that they do trade down, they collect assets and go from there. And so who that ends up being, how that ends up working out, we'll find over the next few weeks. But right now we were seeing on offshores minus 170 for the bears to trade the pick. I think that should be like minus 300, to be honest. So if you have access to that, I would definitely consider

betting on that. Yeah. It's a very interesting start of the draft. It makes mocking very hard, especially early, right? Because there's the mindset of never mock trades. All right. And then you start putting a player in a spot where you know he's probably not going to end up. So it will suss itself out here over the next couple of months. Again, we're early, but we're thirsty. We know the listeners are thirsty for this stuff too. So it is definitely something that's out there and challenging to mock. I think shopping it makes a lot of sense. I mean, you can get the best of both worlds, theoretically.

You can move off of fields and you can still move the pick. Say you identify Will Levis or you want to take a prospect. Again, I don't want to disparage Justin Fields but like Anthony Richardson feels like that type of prospect. Like we know what he could probably do with his legs in this type of environment. He has a ton of questions as a pocket passer as well. Why not do both? You could maybe trade and reset, move down. Again, that's a tough sell probably to the local Chicago media and market who is, you know, thirsty for a viable bears team but uh definitely interesting

again free agent shapes it too if the bears are to move down there's obviously two key prospects on the defensive side that are getting a lot of attention with will anderson and jaylen carter like when you look at what's out there from a free agent standpoint there's a lot of viable defensive tackles um and you know interior defensive linemen where there's not a lot of edge rushers um so like there's the you know the bears have a ton of cap space. So like they could be a player in the defensive tackle market before the draft. And we'd have probably a better shake of what they would do if they were to trade down and address the defensive side. So I think part of the issue though, too, is though, like, what do you think you could get

for Justin Fields? And I want to ask you guys, let's put you on the spot. We didn't prep for this over under pick. We'll say 12, the Texans pick. Do you think that they'd get more than that or less than that? We still got three years of rookie deal. But I think that's probably a pretty fair line, which I know is a complete cop out, but you know, I'd say maybe a little bit more. I think that's right on the money. The biggest, the biggest thing with Justin Fields is you need an offensive coordinator that can develop around Justinin fields he doesn't have the traditional quarterback skill set so that's really going to dictate you know what surrounding cast you have

and what you can build around them so it's not just an easy move like it would be with a standard quarterback that has the normal normal skills in the pocket it's a good transition because i think a lot of the things that are knocks on Justin Fields, again, surrounding cast aside are what you do see in terms of scouting college helmets and, and offenses, his inability to read and discern defensive schemes quickly on that processing thing has been something that has been kind of grouped together

with a lot of Ohio State quarterbacks coming out. C.J. Stroud is next on the board to Scott and number two to the Houston Texans. Is that fair, Scott? Is it fair to really scout the helmet or is those similar conversations going to be had about C.J. Stroud? Look, there are definitely situations, especially in college football, when you look at some of the offensive systems that they have, especially with air raid systems, for example. Those quarterbacks are running a certain type of system. And I think when you get into the NFL, how does that system and think he's more developed as a passer than what we're talking about Justin Fields is. He throws with good anticipation. And Ryan Day there at Ohio State, he schemes well for one and two read plays. The combination of routes that he runs, it allows open wide receivers. And Justin Fields was good in college doing that.

C.J. Stroud is as well. Look, he throws a good deep ball. He throws with anticipation. The big knock on him is his pocket awareness, and that's something he's going to have to clean up at the next level. You start looking at here, I have him number two to Houston. And I think when we talk about quarterbacks, and you look at David Carr way back in the day,

he got killed as a prospect because he just didn't have an offensive line in front of him. I think CJ Stroud can develop at the next level and can be a good quarterback, but he's got to clean up some things in the pocket. So having a good offensive line, which Houston's not bad as far as their offensive line, I think will help him to go ahead and succeed at the next level. Yeah. The debate, or I guess the thoughts around this, we talked about it a lot in our subscriber discord, but Justin Fields versus CJ Stroud coming out of Ohio state, obviously different prospects in terms of the fields, a lot more dynamic with his legs, but as a passer fields average 9.2 yards per attempt, 68% completion rate, 67 passing

touchdowns, nine interceptions, CJ Stroud, 9.8 yards per attempt, 69% completion rate, 85 touchdowns, 12 interceptions. So better in every single category. They played roughly about two seasons each. Now Fields played, I think a couple of fewer games, but still it's like the, the rate stats are still a little bit better for CJ Stroud. I think that you can make the argument that any of Stroud will Levis or Bryce Young could go number one overall. I think they're all very much in play at this point. Um, and not to bring it back to the number one overall pick selection here, but one thing that I did want to bring up about Chris

Ballard is right now, if we look at the quarterbacks, the Colts have had under Chris Ballard, all of them have been six, four or higher or taller. And he is generally preferred to our quarterbacks. That being said, he did go on record talking about how the traits that he scouts are about accuracy and about, you know, being able to escape ability and being able to like maneuver through the pocket. So there is a lot of talk right now about height, about weight, how much that matters. We also have Jim Marissa coming out and saying like, Hey, like I really like this Bryce young guy. I think that means absolutely nothing, but I think it's that it's, it's notable to say the least. So

I think that all those guys are in play at one, all those guys are in play too, because I think almost certainly Houston is taking a quarterback as well. I think the important takeaway at this point in the draft is that we want to fire at stuff, right? Because we're thirsty. We're like, season's over. I can't bet tackles. I want to get in on some action.

Just be cautious right now. I think these are really like we don't know and we will know. And I think that oftentimes we're going to be presented with these small windows before everyone knows and before all the markets shift, not for every player, not for every situation, but there will be times where we can get down and feel like we're getting down good. And that, I think, is really important to have a little bit of restraint at times. I think laying minus 150, minus 170 on Bryce Young to be

the first quarterback selected is really dumb right now. We're going to have some time to do that, even though it feels like that makes a lot of sense, because I do think he is the best prospect in terms of what we've seen. All the measurables will be playing themselves out here in the next couple of months. These guys are going to get their hands on them at the pro days, get them on the whiteboard. We'll start to get some information. So just proceed with caution. They were going to have some markets to jump into sooner than later. Yeah, it's such a good point. Vegas refund, our friend of the show brought up a great point. So on, I think it was actually four days from now, this point last year, Evan Neal was minus 200 to be the number one overall pick. Like that's how far

off. And then, you know, things changed so much. Then Iki Ikuonu became the favorite, then Trayvon Walker, you'll start climbing up, but then it was Aiden Hutchinson for a long time. Like there will be a chance if you like CJ Stroud, which, you know, definitely he's a great player. I think you, there will be better opportunities to bet on him than right now. I feel like he lost the best of the number on Will Levis. You're still going to get a really good number on Will Levis if it is going to be Will Levis. So we'll have time to kind of work things out. I think the most common thing we're seeing in mocks right now, Scott,

if you look across the industry and seeing a lot of things coming out, is a very easy landing spot for Will Anderson out of Alabama, who again was, if we had markets available six months ago, Will Anderson would have been the prohibited favorite to go number one overall. Just kind of a really clean prospect, dominant profile at Alabama, fits a hole for the Cardinals who have a lot of holes.

They need edge rusher. They need a lot of help basically on both sides of the ball. I think it makes a ton of sense for them to trade down, but we'll see what happens there. They are kind of in a spot where, you know, they have questions at quarterback as well, not necessarily who it is, but who's going to be their quarterback for this season. Cause we had a late season ACL for Kyler. Very,

it makes a ton of sense for the Cardinals to try to punt the season off. We'll see what they do here, but will Harrison kind of an easy layup for you right now, I'm guessing at number three. Actually, it's not. So I think there's a lot of argument. And I kind of went back and forth with this pick, whether it was going to be him or Jalen Carter. You look at Gannon taking over as the head coach for Arizona, coming over from Philadelphia. And you look at that Philadelphia defense, and it was really kind of built from the inside out. So you've got J.J. Watt retiring.

You've got a new head coach that's very defensive-minded. I ended up landing on Will Anderson just because traditionally, you know, that defensive end spot is a little bit more valued. But in today's NFL, it's starting to get harder and harder to get that interior pass rush. So for right now, I am landing on Will Anderson, but I think it's really going to be a toss up in this spot between both he and Jalen Carter. And it's going to be something that this spot you can also look at if one of these other

teams want to move up and get that third quarterback that comes off the board. This is another spot for Arizona who can move down. So I think there's going to be a lot of options here. This is one of the spots I'm going to be looking at in the draft. A lot of people think that this draft starts at pick five. So I think the Arizona Cardinals are kind of a wild card here as far as how they can go ahead and play this draft and this position with some options to move down,

options to go ahead and take Lowell Anderson, Jalen Carter. I think there's a lot of things and flexibility they have here yeah you referenced the eagles thing jonathan gaining coming on um the eagles uh fletcher cox javon hardgrave both free agents as well so like they can address that position with the same guys even uh in arizona and then add uh to the edge as well so definitely interesting to see how that uh plays itself out. Connor, any thoughts on how that plays out there in Arizona? No, it's a great point that's brought up though. I mean, obviously all the talk right now is, oh, the Bears are going to trade down, the Bears are going to trade down. The Cardinals can very easily trade down as well. And that's an option that if they don't have an elite grade on any of

these guys, or they get very easily trade down again with one of those quarterback needy teams, Raiders, Falcons, Panthers, kind of that bottom top 10 range, pick up some more draft picks and still get a guy, maybe a Tyree Wilson, Christian Gonzalez, somewhere around that. Miles Murphy will all be in that range probably at that point. So, you know, like, I think that's a, that's a great point there that you brought up. So I, I, again, lean will Anderson right now, just because he seems like he's the best, probably the best prospect in their minds.

But, uh, I think it's, it's very much up in the air. All right. The Bears, again, we have them sliding down from one to four. We have Jalen Carter going there. Again, as you mentioned, people think the draft starts at five. You feel pretty good about these top two defensive prospects going there. Again, I think it's going to be interesting to see a little bit of how that plays out with the Bears having so much money in free agency and defensive tackle, interior defensive line being a pretty deep position in the free agent market. But I'll go to number five. You could stop me just to keep it moving if you had anything on Jalen Carter. But a lot of talk about Seattle. We're seeing a lot of edge rusher, Tyree Wilson

in particular, mock there. That's who you have as well may have questions I think at quarterback you can Gino played really well but again like do they want to really reset here you know they could extend them for a year they could put them on a franchise tag you know I think quarterback is a spot that Seattle could go or it could be another place where they could trade down and continue to add resources to again, always takes a partner, but Connor just referenced seven, eight, nine are all viable quarterback trade up options. Any thoughts on Seattle drafting a quarterback? Did you consider that here at all in your mock?

Look, you talk about Seattle and moving down. I actually think if they're another wild card to move up, they have another pick here in the first round that they can go ahead and utilize. It's just going to be how comfortable are they with Geno moving forward. You know, he's been in the league for a while, kind of a German backup,

played well over expectations this year as far as what he did. You've also got some other pieces within this offense when we start looking at it, Tyra Lockett's getting up in age 30. He seems like he's been around forever. So it's just depending whether or not they want to go ahead and take that shot versus, you know, filling out the rest of the lineup around Geno. As of right now, I kind of think they're going to go ahead and try to fill out the rest of the lineup. I think they'll give Geno another year and see how it goes. And I think that's fair. I think Geno Smith earned

another year as a starter based upon the way that he played. And I think you owe it to both Geno and the team to see if you can move forward as a playoff bound football team with Geno Smith, that quarterback. If it works out, then you're doing well. If not, then you're right back drafting in the top 10 again. Yeah, Connor, Scott mentioned this is technically the Broncos pick from the Russell Wilson trade. Seattle has their own pick at pick 20 there as well. What would you do if you were Seattle? It breaks my heart.

You know, the Broncos, so sad. I can't believe that worked out that way. Yeah, I think you – so Scott has him going defense for both picks. I think that makes a lot of sense. I think there's just a lot of ways they can play it. I mean, yeah, trading down would make sense, but since they already have that other pick, like, yeah, if they really – they want to go get Will Anderson, I mean, this could be a great opportunity

to move up to three to go get him and get a guy who, if they view him as like a true difference maker immediately, like they definitely need some help along the line there defensively. So I think it makes a lot of sense either way. And one thing with Seattle here is when we start talking about them being there in five, you've seen it in past drafts where you're going to have teams come up to get the quarterback, and that may push a player like Will Anderson or Jalen Carter down right there to that number five spot. So if

you have three quarterbacks go within those first four picks, they're going to be there in a prime spot to let a good player fall, especially there on defense. So I think they're in a good position to go ahead and sit tight and let the board play out and come to them and take the best player available. Yeah, makes a lot of sense. Six feels like a great spot to trade down. I think people are going to talk about that often, you know, Detroit again has, you know, some, some shots here too. They have 18 along with six. I do think that they have concerns and you're addressing them here in the

secondary with Christian Gonzalez defensive back from Oregon. Again, we saw some better play out of Jeffrey Okuda last year. The rest of the secondary across the board is, is pretty weak. They definitely have to address it, but because I think the position at corner is both deep and deep at the top, I think really kind of deciding who you think the top corner is. You know, I think there are three viable corner options.

I think that's going to be an interesting market here. You know, over-unders on the corners, first corner off the board, because I really think you have both Joey Porter Jr. and then Devin Witherspoon as well. All very viable options here.

Gonzalez has a lot of ball skills. People like him quite a bit. Scott, talk to me about that pick. Yeah, from a size speed standpoint, I like him here. I think he's going to be the top cornerback, especially once the testing and stuff. You've got some size concerns with where Witherspoon's going to weigh in at. Joey Porter really came on and developed a little bit more this

year at Penn State. I think you have to look at a lot of things. I think this pick, and anybody that plays fantasy football knows in 2022, you targeted that Detroit defense. You sat there. They made some changes in the middle of the season.

It got a little bit better, started playing the run. But that secondary was horrible. Okuda is by no means a sure thing. I think they need to go ahead and shore that up. And we talked about it. Look, this is a deep draft as far as, like, cornerback. There is not a number one overall bona fide, like, player at this position. You're going to have teams that like these guys a little bit differently and rate them differently but here i just think what you have

from okuda and some of the other stuff in that that secondary i think you know this is this is where he's going to go ahead and fit and i think this is the pick yeah i think that's going to be an interesting market to watch definitely i think schematic fit i think you're going to have some teams that like guys differently and that'll be something that we'll probably get some whispers out in there before we have to fire anything here draft-wise. Next, we move down to, I mean, the Raiders would love to sit at seven and have Will Levis fall into their lap. Obviously, moving on from Derek Carr, investing heavily in the offense last year,

bringing on Josh McDaniels, an offensive-minded head coach, investing in Devontae Adams. Connor, they'd love to sit at seven and grab all of us. Yeah, I think that's a perfect marriage there as well. I guess the question is, if they do bring in Jimmy Garoppolo, how does that kind of work there? Do they still value the quarterback position as much if they're still getting a guy that they feel good about?

And so that'd be my only question with the Raiders. And I think that it kind of with the Lions works like similarly, if they bring in a guy like Jimmy Garoppolo, the Lions still have Jared Goff. Like do either of these teams still consider a quarterback in this instance? For the Lions, for me, it's a no. I don't think that they consider quarterback at six. But seven, I mean, again, if they really like a guy like Levis and they only view, you know, Garoppolo is like a stopgap, a bridge quarterback. I think that they could very well go with Levis.

For me, this this this was a pick I wasn't necessarily comfortable with. I slotted him there because the other dominoes have not all fallen yet. And the dominoes we're talking about is Derek Carr, Aaron Rodgers, and Jimmy Garoppolo. Free agency in the trade market is going to be huge with figuring out the rest of this draft and specifically where those quarterbacks fall. Aaron Rodgers in particular, I think he wants to be in California. I can see him reuniting there with Devontae Adams.

Jimmy Garoppolo has the history with Josh Childress. So there's a lot of things that we still need to go ahead and play out before we can feel comfortable with this pick at all. When you start looking at their roster, look, they have big time holes on the right side of that offensive line. Both their starting right guard and their right tackle are free agents going into this. So let's just look at a different scenario. For now, I have them with Levis because they do not have a startable quarterback. I don't think they would go with Jared Stidham for the entirety of the season, who's, I think Stidham's actually also a free agent. So they're going to make a move from a quarterback standpoint. If they don't, I have Will Levis

here because that move hasn't been made. If they do make a move, I think one of the things you're going to be looking at is possibly this could be a spot for a top offensive lineman to come off the board. Yeah, that'll be interesting. I can see typically have a couple guys there that are jumped in there too. So not a real clear offensive tackle currently. And we'll see how that kind of plays out. Next to the Falcons. I really was trying to go through this a little bit. I don't know who's starting for any team in the NFC South at quarterback. I think maybe Desmond Ritter is your maybe most locked in quarterback. There are questions there depending on what they want to do, but like Kyle Trask in Tampa Bay, who knows

what's going on in that division? It's an absolute mess, but we are now dealing with a team who is basically two years in a row had a historically bad pass rush. They need to do something. They tried to address it in the second and third rounds last year. It didn't work out a ton. They are in position to address it this year. There are some viable options on the board. And Scott, that's how you landed here in the mock with Myles Murphy from Clemson. Yeah, I think Myles Murphy, he's a player for Clemson who has the talent.

It's going to be interesting to see how he tests out at the combine. I think he's in play with Seattle earlier at five to see where he may go. But he's a guy who didn't have the production that you'd like to see there at Clemson. I think it's really going to be dependent on how he tests. But you have a new defensive coordinator over there, Ryan Nielsen, somebody who I'm familiar with here in the local area, is moving over from New Orleans to be a defense coordinator over there in Atlanta.

So you start looking at some of the players that you have, Cam Jordan and some of those guys from New Orleans. I think they need to address that defensive line, specifically that pass rush, and I think Myles Murphy would be a good pick here. Panthers are next to nine connor kick it used you know massive steam on anthony richardson quarterback out of florida yesterday that's who uh scott has mocked here we know that carolina similar to indy has just tried to kind of play whack-a-mole a little bit at the quarterback position the last couple years i have not really landed on anything again we get one mock draft from a you know national um reporter not someone who's

historically done well on mocks either by the way um and mocks him to go number one and we have anthony richardson to go number one market moves from 100 to 1 uh to 40 to 1 and it's down to like six or seven in some spots now and again like this like, this is why I talk about the top. It's crazy season, silly season. Like these things are so fleeting. One mock draft, which again, it does his job. He's going to, he wants to get clicks. People clicked on that yesterday to try to see what the hell's going on there.

Again, crazy talented prospect. Someone's going to love him. There's like some Trey Lance vibes here, right? We just have a lot of questions about him outside of him being an athletic freak, but we know it's kind of the skeleton key these days. If you can have an athletic freak, someone who can extend plays, play 11 on 11. Richardson kind of checks all those boxes. Now, again, he peaked to like 57 completion percentage uh at florida so

there are definitely questions and concerns about his pocketability what are your thoughts on the market movement and anthony richardson as a whole yeah so he was like 100 to 1 at one point before the you know before this all happened he was sitting around 50 to 1 30 to 1 the last few weeks and all of a sudden there was a mock draft came out, had him number one overall. And that's shot his odds all the way up to like seven to one. Please don't bet on Anthony Richards in a seven to one. Look, I mean, I think that there's a hundred to one chair. You know, I bet it made worse bets at a hundred to one.

You know, like anything can happen if he, I think he's going to have a great combine. He's athletic. He looks good in shorts. I think like, but this is way baked in at this point. I mean, there are three prospects who, I mean, are, I think in most minds of NFL, you know, decision makers are significantly better than Anthony Richardson. Now Anthony Richardson has a ton of upside, but I mean, none of that upside was tapped through. I mean, very little of that passing upside was tapped into at Florida and rushing upside was obviously

on display, but you know, as we're seeing with Justin Fields, that is not always necessarily desirable by NFL GM. So, but I do think though, so you have the Panthers mocking mocked quarterback here. I think they're the most desperate team right now in the NFL to get a quarterback. After what we've seen from them the past few years, we know that they were in on the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes.

They were heavy, heavy bidders. You know, I had gotten word last year, two years ago, that they were like putting in like as much as he wanted basically, but ultimately he didn't want to end up in Carolina. And that's basically what tipped the tables there at the last minute. So from my understanding, I think that they're, they are actually a very likely trade up candidate to trade up, to get whatever they want. I think that ever since David Tepper came in, in 2018, the owner, they bought the team.

He hasn't had a quarterback and he hasn't been able to execute on anything that he's gotten done. Scott Fitter as well, the GM, like they really haven't been able to find a quarterback. So I think that they're going to get one no matter what, because there's no way that they're playing the quarterback free agency game again, because otherwise they're going to, I mean, they got left out the last few years. Yeah. How do you feel about that, Scott? Do you agree with that? How was, was this an easy sliding for you? Where are you at? Look, it's another one that's not an easy sliding.

We talked about these quarterbacks. They all kind of have their warts. I think what you have to look at with Anthony Richardson, with all the talent he has, he makes plays that you look at and you're like, oh, my gosh, how can another quarterback make this? And then the simple plays, as far as an accuracy standpoint, like you're like, what is going on? So I think the scouts and a lot of analysts around the draft community seem to think that Anthony Richardson's a year or two away. And so when you start slotting him in, you really have to look at GMs and coaches that have that that kind of leeway to go ahead and wait a year or two. I think Anthony Richardson would actually slot in best with a team, and this is just me thinking out loud, a team like Detroit would be kind of the team where you have that bridge quarterback in a Jared Goff to allow Anthony Richardson to sit for

a year or two and develop until he's ready for NFL level competition and to deal with those offenses and defensive schemes that he's going to go ahead and see. Right now, I do have him here. It's just the way he fell in my mock draft. I think, you know, it's still a spot that I think he can land. You start looking at it and can Frank Wright, who played quarterback in the NFL, can he develop some of the things that are missing in Anthony Richardson as a coach? That's really what the question is going to be. You've already heard Lingerens with Carr going to Carolina. That's kind of one of the spots that he's been linked to as well as New Orleans. And we talked about earlier, this NFC South is quarterback hungry across the board. You just don't know who's going to be starting for any of these teams.

So this is a spot we talked about how hungry they are for quarterback. And if things don't shake out the way they want it to in free agency, this is a spot where I think they may be desperate and have to go ahead and pick here for nobody. No other trade, trade spots, open up for them to trade up. Eagles are next on the clock. They have that pick from the saints in that trade from Chris Alave last year where they flipped. I think they flip again.

They have a lot of question marks. They have a little, they're losing a lot of free agency on the defensive side. They could bring some of those guys back. I think the offensive side has fewer question marks. So, again, Miles Sanders is a free agent. They have to handle the Jalen Hurts contract situation. But I think, again, having multiple firsts here,

knowing that they like to trade down anyway, will work well for how he rose me last year i'd be very very very surprised if the eagles make this pick um now again james bradbury is probably walking away in free agency as well another guy that could chase jonathan gang into the the desert in arizona they have questions at corner there that could happen you could see you know basically philly west out in arizona so scott currently mocking joey porter jr quarterback from penn state to philadelphia here it's a need uh but again i don't feel like that they make this pick but talk to me about

where you are i guess we touched briefly on christian gonzalez joey porter here we're gonna have devin witherspoon a little bit um is this more like fit for team, or is this kind of how you see the position? I really think that when you start looking at it, you talked about James Bradbury, but look, C.J. Gardner-Johnson, another one that's a free agent. They're free safety that started for him. Epps is a free agent. There's a lot of turnover here in the secondary,

and Darius Slay, while he's played well over the last few years, he's getting up in age as well. this is more of a need pick I think Joey Porter uh kind of the the way he plays and the way he's developed I think would go ahead and fit in it in his scheme but there's another player that I played with a lot here that I think as as it goes on you're going to start getting some steam some steam look, we start talking about running back. Philadelphia has tried trading for running backs. Alvin Kamara, they've been into running back Knicks. I don't think they're totally happy with Miles Sanders.

And Bijan Robinson's a player that I had a tough time really trying to find a spot for. I think he's more close in that top 15 range. I think when you start talking about Philadelphia trading back, maybe acquiring some more picks, defensive back being deep in this draft, I think Philadelphia is a team that if they don't stay in this position, they can move back five to six spots and be that team that reaches early on Bijan Robinson and gets him off the board rather than letting him fall to the late spot of the draft where I have basically Bijan going later on here.

But look, if they stay here, this is specifically just a pick of need. I think they really need help in that secondary with some of the players they have aging and some others that are leaving in free agency. Yeah, I think that's such a great point on Bijan Robinson in general because everyone has talked from a prospect level,

this is like the best running back we've seen in a while. They're like, Oh, he should be a top 10 pick. But then if you go through the top 10 picks, you're like, I mean the lions maybe, but like,

you know, I really don't think that fits with what their GM has been doing. Like the Eagles, I guess, but like the, I mean the tech Texans ever running back, the jets are good. I mean,

the Patriots wouldn't pick a running back at 14. I don't think, I mean, barring another, you know, Sony Michelle disaster, sorry, siege. Um, you know, I think that like the issue is like, you're going to see his over under probably in his mid teens, but like, it's really hard to find a spot for him where I'm like, okay, that makes a lot of sense based on what these guys have and like what these teams prioritize. So yeah, I think a team like the Eagles could make sense if they trade down. I think it would be a tough tough ask especially with how much you're losing the secondary for them to stand pat at 10 and pick

bijan yeah he's going to be an interesting uh study here over the next couple of months because you know he definitely is that dude i think there are no questions there just as a combination of how we've seen teams handle the position over the last five to 10 years. And, you know, basically how the need fits as well, because you're just going to be able to grab someone for very little in the free agent market and probably be able to get a 150 useful carries out of them. So it just, it becomes more of a roster building thing, which is definitely interesting. That was the working through the top 10 kind of buzzed through a few of these. If there's something in particular, Scott, that you want to

talk about, go ahead and stop me. Tennessee is the next at 11. Tennessee has a ton of questions. I cannot wait to see what the Tennessee win total comes out at. I'd be very interested in blind betting the under. They're basically having to replace four, maybe five starters along the offensive line. It starters along the offensive line it was a bad offensive line to begin with another place that has massive quarterback questions uh pretty substantial cap hit for ryan tannahill we saw enough from malik willis i mean that might not be fair but i feel like we saw enough from malik willis to go that ain't it they can't roll into the season with malik willis they pretty much have

one of the worst receiver groups in the league a lot of questions on the defensive side the unit kind of underperformed you're mocking um paris johnson a big old offensive tackle out of ohio state here again they have that need they need a ton more uh next houston with quentin johnson that's our first receiver off the board quentin johnson big body i think was obviously going to test really well shorts and t-shirts at the combine for whatever he does they have a lot of questions there you know brandon cooks again seems to be he was unsettled last year be interested to see what happens there uh you mentioned uh john mechi drafted late last year had leukemia dealt with that with that. He'll be coming back. They have a lot of questions talent-wise there. I guess talk to me about the Texans there.

Again, second pick for them and them kind of addressing offense, pairing a quarterback with a receiver, and then him being Johnson himself being the first receiver off the board. Yeah, I think when you look at it, look, D'Amico Ryans may end up wanting to go ahead and build defensively rather than pick a wide receiver here. So that's the other thing that I was kind of weighing out and trying to decide where I was going to go. I think when you start looking at it specifically with the Bengals and how they've kind of built out their offense by pairing up young quarterbacks with young wide receivers, you see the upside of doing so. I don't expect Brandon Cooks to basically play in Houston this year. They were trying to trade him before at the trade deadline,

and it didn't happen. He's kind of said that he's not too happy being there. I want to say he's like the most traded wide receiver in the history of NFL, apparently. He's been on multiple teams and put up 1,000 yards. He's pretty successful as teams and put up 1,000 yards. He's pretty successful as far as what he does, but I don't think he's going to be long in the tooth for Houston.

This is a team I don't think many people have expectations for. You have a new head coach, so I kind of have them building on the offensive side of the ball here with that pick 12 with Quentin Johnson, who I think when it comes to the combine, you look at how big he is and how he's going to test out. And I think a lot of teams are going to start getting a bit higher on him. Now, the one question mark he does have when you look at his film is that he doesn't always play as physical as what his size dictates. There's a lot of times, especially in the film that you can look at from this past season, where he just did not attack the ball in the air.

He was rather waiting for the ball to come to him. And it's very inconsistent as how he attacks the football. So that's something you'd like to see him clean up. And I think it's something that would be interesting to see in shorts and t-shirts, how he does it at the combine. But I think he's absolutely going to test well, which is going to drive his price up. You mentioned the Bengals too, as a, as a quarterback wide receiver pairing. What about Jackson Smith? I don't even pronounce it.

Jigba with a Stroud. Look, I, you know, I, I like Jackson Smith and Jigba. What I'm hearing from the scouting community is that a lot of, a lot of NFL teams are basically questioning why he didn't play there. There's some rumors coming out that, that he could have made it back for the season and put some things on tape this year and chose not to do so. So that's something that kind of has him moving down. And when we start looking at it, I have him landing in Baltimore. And you look at some of the coaching hires

and stuff that you have in Baltimore. And Baltimore is essentially, I think they brought in Todd Munkin. I think they're going to go ahead and look to basically run an air raid with Lamar Jackson and open it up. They don't have the weapons to do that as of right now. So I think they're going to be a team later on in the draft within this first round that's going to be searching for a wide receiver. And that's where I have Jackson Smith and Digg Landon.

But look, we talk about combines and pro days all the time. That's where you're going to see a lot of this market changing and moving. There's going to be a lot of fluidity throughout the process. And I think you just have to look at how some of these guys test and run. And specifically when it comes to the combine this year, it's not going to be the top names necessarily that you're seeing in this draft that are the household names, but there are going to be some wide receivers that are going to put some fast

40 times at the combine that are going to kind of change the way teams are looking at some of these players. Connor, we'll pause there in the draft. Cause we can talk about one of the markets that is out there currently, and that is first receiver off the board. The market currently matches Scott's mock in terms of Quinton Johnson being the top receiver off the board. Next you have Jordan Addison for the most part, depending on, you you know it's available in a few books um currently looking at fanduel

um but jordan addison out of usc next in the on the markets at plus 230. jackson smith and jigba we just talked about uh plus 4 30 on fanduel jalen hyatt has got a lot of steam i know we've you know some people i believe vr previously mentioned i think he got like 25 like he opened up at a pretty big number that one's moved quite a bit and there are some zave flower stands and some people that are you know want to discredit him a little bit he's been fluctuating and i think actually depending on where you're shopping right now it's fairly different numbers out there any thoughts to that and any thoughts on a market that will be inevitable, which is one of the favorites out there is over under receivers in the first

round, typically four and a half, five and a half or so. What are your thoughts on the wide receiver market here? Yeah, I think they got all the guys you mentioned will go in the first round. So the over under should be, will be either a four and a half heavy juiced over like minus 200 minus 250

over where you're going to see a five and a half juiced under at like really heavy as well because then after zay flowers are going to like uh k sean uh from lsu uh josh downs rishi rice like none of those guys probably sneaking in the first round um and so i think that that's probably going to be the number we see in terms of which first wide receivers like which wide receivers drafted first like scott said it's going to come down to combine pro days, uh, you know, making sure all of them, you know,

stay safe from now until the NFL draft essentially. Um, but I do think if you want to bet on it again, like goes back to the Bryce Young conversation, don't lay the chalk at this point. Like, you know, bet,

bet, you know, you want JSN at plus 400. I can't fault you at that. Um, uh, you know, like I think that there's plenty of better options,

Jordan Addison, plenty of like people like him, you're getting more than two to one on that. I think personally that at that. You know, like I think that there's plenty of better options. Jordan Addison, plenty of like people like him. You're getting more than two to one on that. I think personally that Hyatt could get there, but I think he's more of a outside looking in kind of guy between for me. I think it's more of Addison, Quinn Johnson, and maybe JSN if a team really discounts, you know, his last year. But it seems like like Scott said that people teams are weighing that like, you know, it's a big deal. So I would just wait. But I think if you want to sprinkle some of

the middle tier guys, that's probably your best move. I think when it comes to this market, Addison's the guy that makes the most sense here. You look at what he did there at Pittsburgh and then transferring to USC, he's got success at two different conferences. He's able to do a lot of things well, so he can play in a slot and can play on the outside and he's able to do a lot of things well. So he can play in a slot, he can play on the outside, and he's had success across the board. So for me right now, as far as the betting standpoint goes, I think Addison's going to be the guy who's going to make the most sense from a betting standpoint early on. But like you said, you can go ahead and wait.

As far as the over and under, look, I've got five guys as far as I expect to go in the first round. Keishon Butte has got talent but has been very inconsistent and has got some off-the-field things. He was actually dismissed from LSU for that bowl game. But, look, you're talking Johnston, Addison, JSN, Hyatt, and Flowers. I think those five guys are going to be a pretty good shot to go in the first round.

So I like that number at five. If you can go ahead and get a little bit of action, I think four and a half is that number that you're going to be looking. Yeah, to watch that market as it comes out. Again, we don't know. This market even being available is a little bit earlier than last year.

We're kind of coming up on like early March when I was looking at my ledger from last year. That's kind of when I started making a little bit of some action. I got in a little bit late on a quantum, but got it down on that like early March. So we're starting to see things. Just keep an eye on it.

We'll be here in discord doing our best to make sure we stay on top of that for you. Poor Jordan Addison, Scott, you haven't mocked 14th in new England, who is just been the absolute kiss of death for early rounds. You know, wide receiver selections.

So we'll see how that kind of plays out. Obviously a need for them in a big, big way. Jacoby Myers is a free agent. The fact that Jacoby Myers is their number one receiver speaks to the issues in New England anyway. But the pick before that, you have the second offensive lineman. You have the Jets in the division. Peter Skowronski, the offensive tackle out of Northwestern.

Offensive line outside of quarterback is what they've built up there. They obviously are in the midst of waiting for Aaron Rodgers to work his way out of the darkness and see what's going to happen there. There's going to be other options out there too. I mean, Derek Carr slides in there and probably makes them a playoff team considering what happened at the position for them last year. So it's interesting to see what happens with the Jets. I mentioned Aaron Jordan.

Now it's 14 to miss there. And we move to Green Bay, who have a ton of questions, obviously starting with Aaron Rodgers. You have Michael Mayer, tight end on Notre Dame, who we have been hearing about for years. He's a loaded tight end position. Depending on what year, we have traditional receiving style tight ends. You have guys that can do a little bit of everything, more in-line guys.

Talk to me about this one. Excuse me. This really just comes down to Aaron Rodaron rogers situation um i think he played green bay very badly and uh got his max contract now he's looking uh to go ahead and exit and be on a different team so you're going to find yourself looking at jordan love and what's the the one thing that we had issues with aaron rogers with last year was weapons he just didn't have enough weapons and the guys they did have were young so i think if they're going to give jordan love and a realistic chance to be

successful, they need to go ahead and get them another weapon. You start looking at Michael Meyer and stylistically, he's a little bit more gronk than he is Kelsey. He can do a little bit at all. I just think you start looking at what they have there. And this is a guy that from an offensive standpoint would make sense. If they went a different route, I think you start looking at the secondary. And Brian Branch is another guy that I was kind of considering for this position there on the other side of the ball,

being able to play both safety and that nickel slot. So I think there's a lot of options here for Green Bay. But if they're going with Jordan Love, you have to surround him with some talent to go ahead and give him a chance to succeed. Yeah, for sure. That makes a lot of sense there uh definitely um kind of rolling continue to roll down the board uh here we have uh the washington commander 16 picking noonan's guy devin witherspoon i think noonan is a big witherspoon uh fan at least from my early taking there um i mean the tape is great he taking there. I mean, the tape is great. He takes the Witherspoon? Yeah.

The tape is great, dude. He's just got that dog in him. Again, as someone who is looking to watch these guys from a tackling standpoint, Witherspoon is going to be just a dude that puts his nose in it. Scott might have some other stuff. I remember watching that really close Michigan-Illinois game, and that guy was all over the field in that game against Michigan. some other stuff just like i remember watching that uh really close michigan illinois game and

that guy he was all over the fields uh in that game against uh against michigan so he just seems like a guy like i very could very easily see him fitting even at detroit at six um just feels like that type of guy that they have again i i joke that he's just got like that kneecap biting type of mentality just can see that that dog in him um again it may be not the coverage corner that christian gonzalez is or maybe even the joey porter jr but i think teams are going to fall in love with him uh on you know on tape so we're interested to see what happens to that position but uh if he's going to open up as like the third of the position um again we've seen some offshores float over-unders on some of these guys as of yesterday. So we don't have anything that we can bet on legally on domestics.

But Devin Witherspoon was like a 10.5, which is a little bit ahead of Gonzalez and Porter. So be interested to see what happens in the position. But again, I think it's really close between the three, Scott. Yeah, this is a line that specifically you're really going to have to pay attention to. When it comes to Witherspoon, like you said, the tape is great. The combine and the weigh-in is going to be what's big for him. A lot of people think he's going to weigh in around 180 pounds, which kind of limits how you think he's going to be able to play at the NFL level

against bigger, more physical receivers, which could dictate how teams see him as whether he's a traditional cornerback one or if he has to do a little bit more slot and wide receiver two covering. So I like the tape. I like the player. I kind of hope he can get in around that 5'11 1⁄2 to 6' range and be in the 185 to 190 range. I think that would make a huge difference in his stock.

So it's just going to depend upon how he weighs in and how teams view him. Definitely a position of need for the commanders, though. Lots of questions in the back half of that defense. stock so it's just going to depend upon how he weighs in and how teams view him definitely a position to need for the commanders though lots of questions uh in the back half of that uh that defense pittsburgh uh broderick jones offensive tackle out of georgia but the offensive line they i think have everyone back and actually had a lot of continuity last year the problem is is that no one's really good along the offensive line. So like they need to address it, I think, and add some like real talent. They do have questions also in the secondary. So they also are another team that are very viable for whether that's Brian Branch is still on the board or if one of these corners happen to fall.

I do think that that's kind of what you see. I think you see the Steelers do something along the offensive line and something in the secondary. And I think that's probably advice I would give to folks too. And obviously something that we're doing is really trying to narrow the focus and identify team needs. Again, we'll see some of that just work itself out over the course of free agency, which will happen.

We'll have a month of that plus before we get into the draft season, but like these things are going to play themselves out, but like that kind of narrows the board here is, you know a month of that plus before we get into the draft season but like these things are going to play themselves out but like that kind of narrows the board here is you know we're going to see what pittsburgh does if they spend in offensive linemen in free agency well i maybe would feel a little bit better looking at the defensive side if they go and get really aggressive in adding someone like you know jermaine edwards or trell edwards is a free agent at corner i mean it's uh it's safety they have really nothing coming back at corner either. So like we kind of need to see what happens there. But I think those are the two spots for Pittsburgh.

And the other thing you really have to note with Pittsburgh is Pittsburgh is one of those teams. They have a leak within their front office that gets out to their beat reporters year in and year out. Like you pretty much know the player and the position that they're going to go ahead and draft. So it's usually not a secret. And this is this is one of the teams I usually feel pretty comfortable honing in on year in and year out as far as like what position and what player they're going to

draft so pay attention to that their betting Market I think is always a good one to go ahead and Target uh next is Lions Brian brisi who this from defensive tackle from Clemson was basically like you looked at any you're like really early mocks like always going in the top 10 uh no had some off the field issues and issues with stuff going on last season um you're not a ton of tape but uh any thoughts on on him landing there scott or is that again lions defense they kind of nailed the draft last year but again they can add some some depth there defensive tackle, that's for sure. Yeah, I think they're developing and they're drafting well

and starting to develop good things from their front office and their coaches are kind of working symbiotically together as far as what they're trying to do. You know what the team is as far as their personality. And you look at last year with Aiden Hutchinson

and then you have Brian Brazee. I think when you look at it, they would pair well together. You get to take away some of the double teams that you're going to see on Aiden Hutchinson. And then it also takes away some of the pressure that you would have with Brian Brzee. Look, he's a guy who has top 10 ability. You know, he's a sophomore coming out of Clemson. I think the upside is there. And I just think the pairing with both him and Aiden Hutchinson makes a lot of sense for Detroit and their defense and what they're trying to build

and specifically what they need. I'm going to buzz through a couple. We'll circle back, let you guys chime in with any thoughts. Next, you have Tampa selecting Cam Smith, defensive back out of South Carolina. Secondary, definitely, as you know, in flux, Jamal Dean, one of the you know featured cornerbacks out there in the marketplace uh they're gonna have some issues there they need to to address and because tampa bay is in uh cap purgatory it's going to be interesting to see what happens with the buccaneers roster and how they address it brian branch finally goes here safety out of alabama who we've referenced could land at a few spots ahead, going to Seattle here.

Seattle, again, like we kind of danced around it earlier, absolutely crushed their draft last year. I mean, you land starting offensive tackles, two of them, fantastic draft, adding a corner, adding a safety, like Branch could be another nice piece there. Next is the Chargers at 21 with Zay Flowers, we talked about out of Boston College, wide receiver. Keenan Allen could be on nice piece there. Next is the Chargers at 21 with Zay Flowers. We talked about out of Boston College, wide receiver. Keenan Allen could be on the move here. I think Flowers is a nice compliment in terms of what you would need to kind of pair

with Mike Williams there on the outside. You mentioned Todd Monken going to Baltimore as the offensive coordinator. They're next on the board. You mentioned Jackson Smith and Jigba, wide receiver out of Ohio State. Look, the Lamar Jackson thing is probably the biggest news of the offseason because he is the first domino to fall out of all these situations. He will be, it feels like, franchised. Will he play? Will they franchise and trade, tag him and trade him, which I think feels very much on the table, which is a wild situation but um again is he gonna not participate in offseason stuff and then walk into a new offensive coordinator situation with unknown pieces the raven situation is is definitely

one to watch this offseason so i'll stop there if you guys have any thoughts on the last couple of picks um i i mean the more that i just look at the board, the more that getting over four and a half receivers just feels like such like, I mean, again, this is, we don't know, have that line yet, but I really think that's what it's going to come in at. If you can get that anywhere, I mean, minus 150 or less is, I mean, a great bet because you not only have the top guys that like in the middle of tier year, but you have, you have the, you know, the Jaguars, I think are in play. You have the giants who definitely need wide receiver help Ravens. Uh, like you said, absolutely need at least two receivers, you know, to add their chargers probably need a receiver, but then even further down the board, like I think like a team, like the bills, the saints might be in play there, uh, as well,

uh, for another wide out. So, and I mean, I wouldn't rule the chiefs out either. I mean, the chiefs have the last pick. Like if, if there's still a good receiver hanging around here, like, uh, you know, a Jalen highlight high Hyatt would fit in great with Patrick Mahomes. Obviously, everyone fits in great with Patrick Mahomes. But my point is they don't have that many solidified receivers. So no one stood out too much to me. I think that, like, once we get to this point in mock drafts, given this early, we haven't gone through free agency yet.

We haven't gone through the combine. Like, a lot more of these guys will be solidified in the coming weeks. Even your 5.9740,nor could uh could get it done with the chiefs we're testing this by the way we're going to the park dangle's talking in the discord right now too so you know we need uh we need to get back at it yeah i think when it comes to wide receiver like we're talking about the interesting part i think five is definitely a number for the first round when i start looking at some of the boards and talent evaluators that i really value their their opinions there's not another wide receiver after these five that we're talking about that is basically projected within the top 50.

So I think five is going to be that number. We talked about the teams that you already mentioned, but Seattle's another team when you start looking at, I think, could add some wide receiver help. So there's a lot of teams here within this back half of the draft that I think are all going to be searching for wide receivers. It's just going to be dependent on which ones fall. I think that 4.5 number, that over is going to be the number to hammer if you can go ahead and get it. The one that interested me the most, though, when I start looking at things is specifically that Los Angeles Chargers spot. I think it's going to be interesting to see what they do,

bringing in Kellen Moore as the offensive coordinator. I think they vastly underperformed last year. Josh Palmer was a surprise. He kind of stepped up and played, but they had a lot of injuries last year. They couldn't get that team all together on the field at the same time for the majority of the year, and it's going to be a make-or-break year for their head coach there. I think he's going to be on the hot seat.

And that's why you're seeing Kellen Moore come in. I think Kellen Moore, as far as an offensive coordinator, who's with his play call and looking to get a head coaching job, I think is going to be aggressive. And I think that's definitely a spot you can see one of these wide receivers land in. And Zay Flowers is a guy that's definitely moving up throughout the draft process with some of his explosive playmaking ability love it scott uh next you guys didn't

even mention that minnesota at 23 i think is very much a play for a wide receiver you know adam thielen definitely long in the tooth at this point uh so questions of the you know third and fourth receiver supporting justin jefferson like i think they're very much a play uh scott has them taking kelly ringo uh corner from georgia we got another guy that was often mocked inside the top 10 early got lit up um in a big big way uh in the playoffs and i think that could impact his draft slot but like they did try to add uh secondary help light last year you know late first round early second round um didn't really pan out they definitely definitely have a need there, but interesting to see how they approach free agency to see what happens there with Ringo, a name that, again, could, based off of his profile leading

into it, could test well and could be a name that moves back into the mix. Jacksonville at 24, you have a guard out of Florida, Osiris Torrance. They're basically adding in Calvin Ridley, which is a really nice piece. They have some questions along the offensive line. So I think addressing that and protecting your best asset and Trevor Lawrence makes a ton of sense. They could continue to add that. They have some other questions in free agency as well. They got a lot out of Evan Ingram last year. He's up in free agency as well. New York Giants at 25. Jalen Hyatt, who we've touched on a few times, wide receiver out of Tennessee.

We know what the Giants managed to do somehow last year with just, I don't know, MacGyver style at the wide receiver position with all the injuries. They definitely need sort of a wide receiver one. Is Hyatt that guy? Is that guy available in this draft? Is that guy available at 25? Be interesting to see what the Giants do, but they definitely need some help there at the wide receiver position. The Cowboys are where I'm going to stop. Very interesting team here. You have a linebacker, Drew Sanders out of Arkansas.

Not a ton of linebacker talent. A lot of questions. I mean, Leighton Van Der Esch dealt with injuries. Anthony Barr as well. They're both free agents. They need some help to allow Micah Parsons to really stay on the edge when they really lost kind of the juice out of Micah Parsons at times last year because they needed to move him a little bit more of, you know, even inside at times and get him really out of what I think he does best. Juju Sanders definitely is that guy. And I think he answers that. Not a great linebacker draft, as you mentioned, Scott, but the big thing here is the running back position for the Cowboys is a question mark. You have a great year from Tony Pollard. He obviously gets hurt in the playoffs. He's a free agent as well. They can move on from

Zeke. Do they move on from Zeke? Jerry Jones does seem to be loyal, Scott. I think when we start talking about Dallas and everything comes down to Jerry Jones and Zeke has been a stalwart for a long time. You start looking at it and moving Zeke is going to do a lot if it happens with this team. So you start looking at some of the things. And I think Tony Pollard just moving on to Tony Pollard last year, he was the better running back. And he's been the better running back for the last two years. And I think the Cowboys fans would love to just move from Ezekiel Elliott to Dijon Robinson. I think that would be a wet dream for some of them.

But I just don't see it happening. I think Jerry Jones is going to work out a contract deal to maybe cut Zeke back a little bit before they end up getting rid of him. For whatever reason, in my heart, my gut feeling, I just think Jerry Jones has a loyalty to Ezekiel Elliott that is not going to allow them to go ahead and take De'Jon Robinson. Yeah, I mean, if we remember back to the draft and how it happened, I mean, he absolutely powdered the table to take Zeke ahead of Jalen Ramsey in that draft and was like, we're picking Ezekiel Elliott, you know, like,

and that, that's just how it worked. And since then he has been loyal to him to a fault, like you said. So it does not, it would not surprise me either way. I think the smart decision is to cut bait, but you know,

Jerry just does Jerry. So, you know, I think that's kind of wait and see thing. Buffalo on deck next to 27, Keon White on edge out of Georgia Tech. We saw that last year really impacted when Von Miller went down, like this was not the same defensive unit that we saw early in the season. So they definitely need to address that White or Von Miller. I'm sorry, getting up there in age, obviously coming off of a massive injury that will impact his explosiveness as well.

Buffalo, another team that could address the wide receiver. Gabe Davis is a free agent after next season. He was definitely a disappointment last year. They really need another threat on the outside. Again, continue to build around and support Josh Allen, I think makes a ton of sense. Cincinnati at 28. Cincinnati is in an interesting spot.

They have both safeties. Vaughn Bell and Jesse Bates are free agents. They have some other questions there at the cornerback position. Cam Taylor-Britt slid in, especially in the back half of last year. It was really good. They did a good job. Dax Hill can slide in at safety for one of those two guys, but they could still continue to add help there at defensive back. Could also be a landing spot for an offensive lineman to add some depth there as well at Cincinnati. Bijan Robinson's landing spot is with you, Scott, in New Orleans, who, again, as you

mentioned, we have a lot of questions surrounding the availability legally of Alvin Kamara, who, you know, this was kind of a thought discussion last offseason but now it's kind of coming home to roost we have to kind of figure out what's going to happen there lots of questions for them uh philly with their second pick i'm adding uh luke van ness the edge out of iowa uh this again decent tape i don't know if he has like the electric skill set seems like more of a bull rusher i don't want to be uh you know tape guy but interesting to see again philly loves uh edge rushers getting sacks was a big part of their success last year and they are dealing with some turnover there along the defensive line and then you have kansas city bringing it home don kinkade obviously a great uh you know off season

so far for kinkade seems more of a prototypical. And as you reference here, Travis Kelsey, more of like an offline pass catching tight ends. Anything you want to touch on there, Scott, as we wrap it up? Look, I went ahead and I ended up with Bijan Robinson in New Orleans. And it was just the way this, this particular exercise of going through this mock fell. But I think Bijan is a guy who we talked about earlier. I think he's going to go more in that 12 to 16 to 18 range.

I think the talent is just there. And he's the one where you start talking about who's going to go first at different positions. I think it's a lock that Bijan is going to be the first running back. When we start talking about New Orleans, New Orleans is a need as far as running back is. It was a revolving door last year behind Alvin Kamara. Kamara is a guy who has a lot of miles on the tread right now. Plus, we start talking about the legal issues. Could he miss four games, six games, eight games? And even with his contract and just the fact that New Orleans as a team right now does not have an identity, you know, post Drew Brees, they're really under a gun as far as a cap they're

searching for a quarterback um you know they they did well last year hitting on on some picks at wide receiver but this is a team that needs to to get an identity and and you know as far as like getting a running back like Dijon and then maybe getting a quarterback they would then have one so they've got a solid offensive line they've got some pieces there at wide receiver. I think there's some things to build around. And I just, I landed on Dijon because it was hard to slot him there within certain positions of this draft, because there's not a lot of teams where you would think Dijon should go that need that running back. So this is where he fell. I'm sure there's going to be some movement you know through

the next few iterations until i land on my final landing spot for bijan but i think he's definitely one of the guys that's going to make or break this draft as far as like where he gets selected yeah it's tough man he's going to be in the first round but finding homes for these guys especially in february before we have a lot of this information connor gets really hard yeah uh i mean i i just think we're going to see kind of like what we saw from Seattle when they drafted Rashad Penny. And I believe they had Chris Carson or someone else

at the time where everyone was like, oh, he's coming off an awesome end of the year. He's coming off a great, you're like, he's looking good. And then they go ahead and draft a running back in the first round. One of these teams will surprise us. Just don't know which one.

And so, yeah, I think he's a great talent. Again, probably we'll end up in that range. We'll see what over-unders come out at know, I mean, if, if they're putting an over under like 10, I'll take the over, put it over under 20, I'll take the under. So, um, you know, I think somewhere in that range makes a lot of sense. It's a good call. Again, this draft that we just walked through available at four for four.com, uh, for free Scott, we'll have, um, a few more, uh, Connor, we'll have some, I'll have some, uh, John

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