Move The Line - 2024 NFL Futures & Best Prop Bets!

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

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hello and welcome to move the line prop drop show presented by DraftKings Sportsbook I'm Ryan Noonan back to talk about the best way and the most profitable way to bet on NFL football and that's with my friends through player props we are going to be live here in season 3 p.m eastern every Friday on the 444 bets youtube channel you can find us on twitter as well here to talk about our favorite player props and to take your questions this show gets off the rails uh we have a lot of fun with it excited to run it back this season here as always connor allen connor and i will be here uh every week in season uh wednesday thursdays talking sides totals all that other stuff. But Fridays will be props.

And Fridays are with our guy, John Hyslop, at Slop Rules on Twitter. What's going on, baby? Welcome back. What's up, guys? I'm very happy to be back. I'll be honest with you, man. Like, I've been betting baseball all summer long. And I had a great time betting dingers.

Don't get me wrong. It's been nice. But, man, I almost can't even look at the slate anymore. Like, just because there's NFL games coming up, player props are getting dropped, college football tomorrow. It's like, man, like, I almost feel bad for the baseball guys who are out there playing for nothing, you know? It's here. And it slops back in an extended role.

We're also going to get some uh slop content this year highlighting some uh island game stuff for us over on the site four for four.com you want to check that out excited to uh continue this relationship build upon it obviously you know slop is uh fantastic at what he does we love having him so excited to bring that back here as well if you enjoy this in podcast feed instead uh podcasts will be available for you in friday afternoons obviously in season again youtube move the line wherever you find podcasts subscribe thumbs up rate review all those things help us a ton uh really excited to go a little bit uh off the rails here we're going to do season

long stuff obviously even though we're starting to get the week one stuff trickling in a little bit. There are some futures. There's exotics. Sites have different offerings in terms of what you can parlay and what you can't. We like to kind of get a little bit spicy here. We can't do the uncorrelated parlays necessarily today or same-game parlays or stuff like that. But maybe if the guys have thoughts on Thursday, Friday stuff,

because those are pretty, I'll say mature markets, but most of the stuff is out for Chiefs, Ravens, and Eagles Packers, our two openers that are, you know, I guess less than a week away at this point. So pretty excited to get in here too. If you want to get all the content, all the things that we do this season, you want to get a betting sub at 444. That's where everything is. You want to get into Discord.

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Ride with us for a month. That's going to get you in at a lower level. Really what you want to get is the betting subscription, because that's going to get you access to everything. So reach out to us directly. If you have any questions, again, you can find all that information over on our Twitter feed as well. So, all right. Connor, give you the floor floor first i don't know where you want to go with this not a lot um you know not formal today but uh unless you have anything at the top you want

to talk about here yeah i just want to make a public quick public service announcement here uh fanduel has not fixed the uncorrelated same game parlays um as of currently just got our first reception props out there and receiving props. Kelsey over five and a half receptions and under 58 yards is plus 600. So not bad. No alts involved there. That's just a straight number.

Obviously get some bolts alts involved, maybe a 70 plus or something like that. Or maybe the other way around, you know, over receptions under yards, it's going to be a great season on prop drops. I'm pretty hyped, but in terms of futures, so there's a lot of, I think there's two different websites that post like a lot of futures that you can combine and parlay. So draft Kings has

like their milestones and then fan duel has theirs as well. Um, I think both are pretty interesting, but let's start with, I think wide receivers is a fun place to start. So let's start with some wide receivers. Um, a guy that I've been looking to take alts on, I think wide receivers is a fun place to start. So let's start with some wide receivers. A guy that I've been looking to take alts on and I think is kind of fun is Malik neighbors. So on draft Kings right now, he's plus 175 to have a thousand yards. He's plus 600 to have 1250. Obviously that seems like a lot. I mean, Puka Nakua just had 1500 yards neighbors, even in Daniel Jones' horrible, horrible game with two interceptions,

he had six targets, went four for 54 in the first half. I mean, like, this guy can see a legit 30% target share. So I know Daniel Jones stinks, but I don't know. I'm kind of interested in Malik Neighbors as being an absolute dog. I like that. I like the neighbor stuff. I have a neighbor's-ish thing here as well that I can get into. Slav, what are your thoughts on neighbors and the ceiling

and what that could happen there? I'm everything receiver, and I do like neighbors. I don't – all right, so I don't think Daniel Jones is good, but I don't think he's that bad. There's worse guys out there. So he could just force feed that guy. So there is that. Yeah, I'm all over that.

Love it. Love it. So what do you got? You got anything spicy, Slop? I've got, okay. So I'm looking through what I did over the summer. And admittedly, I probably did this when we were at the Cape. Not sure. And if you know what that means

if not you'll find out where in the cape were you uh yarmouth okay so yeah we're just kind of hanging out on the beach and gambling i guess that's what we're doing that's good but um big hyannis guy checking in here okay okay yeah no. Yeah, no, I'll be honest with you. That's my favorite trip of the summer just because it kind of marks the end. You know what I mean? Like you're just relaxing. You got football coming up, but it's still summer. You can just kind of hang out and do nothing on the beach.

It looks like I like Pat Fryermuth to score five-plus plus regular season receiving touchdowns that's plus 250 at draft kings or it was i'm not sure what the live line is i know we say no stale bread that doesn't count it's not a real show so if that was a little stale that's my bad um but i i'll be honest. I think he – like five? How does he not catch five touchdowns? Not stale. Still live, baby. Okay. All right. So then, yeah, no stale bread over here, guys.

I'm pretty sure – I'm looking up right now, so bear with me. But I'm very sure that he caught close to that his rookie year. Am I wrong there? I think he caught, like, close to that his rookie year. Am I wrong there? I think he caught seven touchdowns his rookie season. So, I mean, he's obviously done this before. He's suffered through some really bad quarterback play. They don't have – who was their number one that's gone? Deontay.

Not that he caught a lot of touchdowns. But, I mean, nobody got touchdowns for that team. But, again, we need five. That's it. He's probably going to be there, too. George Pera. Yeah, the Pickens kid probably is going to get his. I don't know that they're going to be this high-scoring offense,

but, again, they play 17 games. We need this guy to fall into the end zone five times. It's plus 250. It feels too easy almost. I think I was kind of weak. I don't know what time of the day I did this, but it must have been early. If it was later in the day, I would have had this guy scoring like seven, maybe nine. The touchdown market, I think, is actually kind of exploitable just because touchdowns are so volatile.

I think that if you feel good about a guy um like having a good season you can catch some pretty interesting numbers i have like i don't know a couple written down there as well i don't know did you look at any of the the touchdown markets i know that's something we normally don't play like on a weekly basis at all but like a season-long thing i mean firing with could score two touchdowns in a game and then he's like basically halfway there you know like that's he could yeah you know what actually i was thinking about this a little bit because I think it's almost like uh shocking that I'm gonna like bring this over to the defensive side but like sacks are the same way right like I think sacks on a game to game level are pretty hard to predict yep but

over the course of a season I think when you snap back there are like indicators that can lead to it like you know just in teams passing rate in the red zone or inside the 10, target share in the red zone, all those different things. So like from a game to game perspective, it's probably, I think it's pretty hard in a market that I have no interest in, but from a season long standpoint, I think you're right, Connor, especially there's inefficiencies in the marketplace with, you know, what a team's going to do in the red zone. I think there are ways to exploit it. So that's probably the best way to do it. Same thing. Like i bet a bunch of sacks uh season long

that's but i'm probably not betting a ton of sacks week in and week out because it's pretty hard to pinpoint when they're going to happen right yeah and you know you can do with these two and kind of what i like to do is like you can parlay a couple of them so like the odds like an insane amount and you can sometimes round robin them but i mean it depends on how on how limited you are at DraftKings usually, but I mean, usually the way you get down like 10 bucks, but it's like 10 bucks to win like a couple thousand, you know, like on like a couple of leg parlay. So it's, you know, it's worth the squeeze here for, you know,

maybe half of a lunch in the current economy. I mean, I think it's fine, but some touchdown guys that I thought were interesting seven plus touchdowns for Trey McBride is five to one. That seems, I mean, he didn't score a lot of touchdowns last year. I get that. But like this, this Cardinals defense is going to be so bad. I think Kyler Murray is healthy. You know, now they have Marvin Harrison Jr. as well.

So I think this offense should be way better being more scoring opportunities. So I don't know. I kind of think McBride is is like i don't know i mean seven plus touchdowns would surprise you if he scored seven touchdowns this year not at all right like no no and there's nothing less sticky than year over year touchdowns right like i mean what he did last year touchdown wise i think is nothing to do with what's going on so yeah i i i get there for sure yeah no that's kind of a fun one um one one more real quick calvin ridley four to one looks like deandre hopkins might not even play week one we took an under on him like from a

regular week one perspective at like 50 something if he does play i mean i feel like burks might like rotate in with him like hopkins probably playing less than 50 of the snaps but again like he's like 30 something years old coming off of like an already another injury he was a decoy half last year in an offense that's going to throw a ton so four to one for calvin lee to score seven touchdowns like i don't know i made worse bets you know i think it's fine yeah uh i'm gonna give you one that's kind of uh you know i'll go off the malik neighbors one um i'm really bullish on all three of these like alpha wide receivers that were in the draft.

You know, the top 10 guys with Marvin Harrison, Jr. Malik neighbors and Roma dunes. I think they're all absolute studs. And on draft kinks, they have a, you know,

running back milestones, receiving yards, and they have, you know, thresholds. Connor mentioned kind of the ceiling ones for neighbors. The lowest threshold that they have is seven 50. So 750 receiving yards and they have, you know, thresholds. Connor mentioned kind of the ceiling ones for neighbors. The lowest threshold that they have is seven 50. So 750 receiving yards.

And you can parlay those three guys, Marv neighbors, and the dunes a the top 750 receiving yards at plus three 10. I think, you know, you can get into ceiling outcomes for all of them, but I think this bakes in a little bit of the risk that we kind of are hesitant in taking overs and season-long stuff anyway, because it just kind of lowered the threshold in case they were to miss some games or something that happened.

You know, that's 750 is not a really high bar. The Doomsday one is the one that kind of floats this a little bit because you're laying some juice to get, you know, like minus 300 or something for Marv and neighbors to do this. But Rome, I'm in on Caleb. I'm in on the Bears. I'm in on Rome being the dude too. So plus 750 or top 750, I don't think is that a bar too high.

So three to one, I like that one quite a bit. If you're bullish, you want to add a fourth leg, a little spicy like yourself, some Xavier Worthy jumps up to seven to one. Seven to one if you throw in Worthy there too. So just the three guys though, three top 10 guys, 3-1 I like quite a bit. So Connor, where are you at with Rome? I know obviously probably like Dune Zayn, I know we're kind of bullish on the Bears,

but we haven't talked Rome specifically. Yeah, I have no idea what to do with those receivers for the most part. I mean, we're getting week one props. Like Keenan Allen's like 46. DJ Moore's like 60-something. I don't know what they're gonna post for home at 40s probably i mean like i have no idea what to do with them i don't think they know what to do with them either to be honest yeah um outside of dj more being the number one and then who's gonna pop off each week i want to be bullish on rome i think he's like a really good player uh so same like i don't know i

think kind of the best way to play it is going to be to play some alts early, you know, like 75 plus yards for Roma dunes. It's going to be like three to one probably for a while. Um, longest, you know,

longest over 20 and change or whatever. Yeah. Longest is a good call too. Yeah. Cause like, I just don't know if the volume is going to be consistent because like, they're still going to run the ball plenty. Like their defense is still pretty solid.

So like, I don't think they're going to need to be in like these crazy shootouts where Caleb's throwing like 40 plus times a game. But if they are, I mean, wheels up for all these guys. I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be lit in Chicago.

Yeah. We got there. Stop. Any thoughts on the rookie parlay? Yeah. Well, the thoughts on the bears is their defense, like ruins everything for me just because they're good.

Do you know what I mean? Like they're not, They're not that bad. So you're going to need some injuries before you can start really thinking about shootouts and stuff because that could be a really fun offense in a shootout early in the year because there's no chance the books could actually price that, right? So if they were to hang 40 on somebody because they were scoring on them, then, man, that would just be Christmasmas but their defense is good dude so that is that's their biggest problem like for

my like the way i look at sports band that that's their problem like damn that sucks like wish you guys were worse i like caleb i think he's gonna keep them uh in some games i mean by making but i mean like by making some probably hero ball throws occasionally, there'll probably be some turnovers and some stuff that maybe should be blowing someone out, and all of a sudden Caleb brings it back a little bit because he's trying to do some stuff. I think once he figures it out, he'll be one of those dudes that can do that stuff pretty regularly.

But, yeah, I want to bet on talent. I think Rome is not in a tier below those guys in terms of overall talent so 750 is a pretty pretty low bar to cross so um yeah you can also like if you want to add some other guys like guys that you think are just layups to a couple guys that i highlighted i i knew i know connor would like to if i take the three rookies again this is what we do onop. We get a little bit off the rails. You add Chris Olave. We like Chris Olave.

This is 750, again. Chris Olave, Drake London, and Calvin Ridley, and that's plus 830. Now we got six guys, so that's why it's a little bit dicey. Now it's a party. Now it's a party, and now we're up to 8-1. 750, again, we're baking in some injury risk. We're baking in the thought that maybe a guy misses four or five games and can still top 750. I love Olave this year.

I know Connor's in on him too. I know Connor loves Drake London, and this Calvin Ridley stuff, especially with maybe a slower, you know, to start the season, DeHop could bode pretty well for him in an offense that we think probably chucks it quite a bit with a Levis in Tennessee. So those guys, you had six and six is, is the cap,

what they let you do. And you can get that out to eight 30. So again, probably good. That six is the cap to be on job, baby. Yeah. Yeah.

No, I I'm a big, I'm an eight guy, but yeah, six, whatever. We'll take it. Yeah.

Is that how you make your, your Millie parlay? It's like, I've, I've legit tried to make like a parlay to get a million dollars. And I like, I couldn't get there. Slop. I don't even know. It's not easy.

You gotta go eight. I'm, I'm already looking at, I'm waiting for the Sunday alts to drop so I can figure out what we need for NFL. I've already figured out. You don't want anything correlated at all because you get robbed. And even like a receiver from one side in the same game, right, and then a receiver from the other side, they take – they knock you for that too, which is correlated,

but I mean not like quarterback and receiver. You know what I mean? Like that kind of thing. But, yeah, I thought I had a secret way to a Millie, but that did not happen. So now I'm back to the drawing board. I feel like if you had six plus eight hundreds, maybe you might be pretty close,

but I can't really find one. That's not quarterly. Cause we only have two games on a fan tool like right now. So, and then draft Kings, I don't think we have too many alts. I could be wrong. I didn't look this morning just because I had baseball.

I wanted to look through. And if I look through NFL, even once, I never go back to baseball. So forgive me. So, yeah, I don't think so yet.

There are some, there are some week one draft Kings alts that I've, that I've looked through. There's a couple that I have. We have the Sunday ones yet? Yeah. Yes, we do. I'll find out while we're on the show.

I'll tell you exactly how many likes we need to get to a million. Jeff, first TD scores will get you to a million quick. Yeah. Sure. Will they? Not anymore. What they do the math? I don't know.

Not anymore. Jeff here. Nice. What's up, Jeff? They nuked the first touchdown market and the touchdown market. Did you see that? Because they're like passing on the tax. Now they're like changing the tax to basically – they changed all the odds to minus 115 on props plus like their first touchdown

and touchdown odds are like i mean they're already bad they're like really bad now yeah i hate it i don't even look at that market because of that because it's it's it's so bad like you're looking just like damn man like and i and i'll what happens is i'll i'll look at it and then i'll actually bet one no one damn well i started looking at it this is so bad but i'll still bet one just because I'm a monkey and I can't control myself. Yeah, it happens. It is what it is. Let's see, Connor.

Back to you. What else you got for us? Let's see here. Yeah, I don't want to give away the week one round robins yet. I think we can talk about that next week. I have four or five already written down that i'm gonna hit probably i'm going to uh a little chicago dub club thing uh at the drafting sports book so i'm gonna be you know probably rip a couple of those maybe tweet

them out um who knows there's some there's some good ones i think early town what's up at wrigley town yeah yeah wrigleyville yeah wrigleyville yeah yeah wrrigleyville. Yeah, Wrigleyville, yeah. Yeah, Wrigleyville. My bad. My bad, Chicago people. Sorry. Yeah, I went there last month. It was very fun. Yeah, did you have a good time, dude? I mean, where did you go?

Just to Wrigley or did you go to some bars? We went to Slugger's two nights in a row. Yep, I was at Slugger's both nights. Oh, man. It got late. It got late, but it was fun. I had a great time. I've never been to a bar with batting cages that was one bar yeah oh that was a good time we were at draft kings on the second night there was a uh rain delay so that kind of helped us out had a little more time in there and then we watched a game that ended one to nothing i had like seven home run

bets so that was good. Great time. But no, it was great. I had a great time in Chicago. I'd never been there before. It's like way nicer than I thought it was. I don't know what I thought it was because I've never been there. But I was just like, man, this is like way nicer than any other city I've ever been to. So shout out Chicago.

It's because you got Jeff in your mentions all the time just like terrorizing the thoughts of people, you know, of what Chicago is is and there are definitely some rough parts but uh wrigleyville is nice if you go on twitter man you'll be convinced that like you're gonna get murdered if you go there it's like you're probably not gonna get murdered this is nice you know it sounds like this is great so great city yeah chicago is great like i don't i mean i understand that that. I think there's bad pockets in any major city. But Chicago bad pocket is pretty small and pretty easy to avoid if you're just like – Yeah. You want to be downtown and take in a city. A city is great.

Especially in the summer is a great time for you to get down here. I was on Michigan Ave. Oh, yeah. It's a nice street. It is. Very nice. Love that. All right well love chicago i'm actually gonna keep it in chicago here with my first look at this prop uh look at that i'm getting better

at this right so caleb williams throw for 4 000 yards is plus 350 he would be the first bears quarterback ever to throw 4 000 yards ever, ever, in history of Chicago. The leader right now has 3,833, I think, something like that. That's the most passing yards in a single season by the Bears quarterback. It was like some bum from, I don't even know, the Stone Ages, forever ago. And so color didn't get there. Field didn't get there. And, I mean,

Caleb, like the bars are so low. So I think Caleb to throw for 4,000 is pretty interesting at plus three 50. And if you want to get real, real wild 20 to one for 4,500 yards, I mean, that's again, the defense needs to be bad for that to happen.

Like slop said. But again, I mean, what if like, I think that they're overrated based a little bit based on that final season stretch, because what are you laughing about? I mean, what if? Like, I think that they're overrated based a little bit based on that final season stretch, because what are you laughing about? I mean, it's Eric Kramer in 1995. It wasn't the Stone Ages.

Who's Eric Kramer? Oh, man. That sounds like an intro. He actually played for the Vikings. I think he worked his way through all the NFC North teams. He played for the Lions. Didn't he play for the Lions? Yeah. So he worked his way through all the nfc teams he played for the lions didn't he play for the lions yeah so he's lions and bears yeah yeah sometimes you're like stone ages back in the stone ages they didn't even have face masks i thought it was older than that like

they like the field goals were like in the field still right like they were like in the field yeah you didn't have to worry about parking because no the cars didn't exist so yeah yeah the field you had to actually watch out for the goal post it was literally like around the middle of the field yeah that was uh in the middle of uh his most guys weren't playing because they were you know doing serving overseas in the war so you know yep yeah the second world war our first i i think it was the first world i think it was one yeah i think it was one oh man that's so good well i didn't i didn't mean to offend any of the old sorry guys um you know i thought it was i legit thought it was longer ago than 1995 but um it wasn't that long ago i mean it feels like it wasn't it probably was yeah that's that's good

either way i do like caleb will Caleb Williams to have some success this season. Yeah, I'm in on anything Caleb related to. I think the hero ball kind of works well for that too. It's part of it too, right? He's going to try to make some plays because he can, and that could lead to more opportunities. So, all right, Slop, what else you got for us? I went Mike Evans, 10-plus touchdowns in that parlay

I was talking about with Friermuth. All right, for the season, obviously. But he caught 13 last year. Caught six the year before, 14 the year before, 13 the year before. So, I mean, he's a big target when they get down there. Their defense is not good not great so they should get involved in some you know higher scoring games baker i mean i'm not a baker guy but he i mean if i'm being objective he wasn't that bad last year he's actually pretty good so i don't

know like 10 just doesn't doesn't feel like that much for mike williams plus he's um he's a number chaser at this point in his career. You know what I mean? Like, he knows, like, where his numbers are put that way. It's not like he's chasing contracts anymore. So, I don't know. You can get a couple bullshit touchdowns from the one, a couple jump balls, you know, just little things like that

to get us home if we have to. But 10, not a lot. At plus 190, I don't feel like that's that crazy no i have one more i have a stupid one in this parlay that i'll tell you about in a minute so i'll just tell you now in comparison this one nowhere close was dumb as that yeah plus i was thinking it'd probably be maybe 140 or 150 off the top of my head but that i think 190 is interesting connor any thoughts on thoughts on evans and we try to get him in our ffpc drafting that you know we got robbed there a little bit i just kind of hate the bucks i don't know it's like maybe it's yeah me

too i just like don't like them i don't know i've like i haven't necessarily been fading mike evans forever but he's always been a guy where in fantasy drafts i'm like looking to bet on him like i really want to bet on this guy yeah no because then you got to watch their games i'm with you i know exactly what you're saying like that's my only concern it's not a care nothing real like it's it's 100 in my brain but uh it just gives me the ick you know like i'm just not about it all right so just a quick update um damn they want it all right so they'll max the max i can do on this is six legs and the max money is 91 cents but that'll get us 249 000 if that hits it's six legs not even a buck 250 grand on draft king i mean i i think that I could probably, like, if I look at some other books,

I know it's a DraftKings show, so I won't say who I'll look at, but I'll look at some other ones. I think I can get to a million at close to, like, six legs, maybe seven. Seven is the most, though. Seven is the most. I might be able to do it. Looking at these now, I got a couple 650s in here. I would never do that.

Yeah. Oh oh my bad there's a 850 700 700 a thousand and then i got two guys correlate yeah i can i can get there in six legs so we'll have milli parlays every friday love it yeah i think that that can be our new thing i think that you can get there by the way with uncorrelated parlays pretty easily. Not bad. If you did five or six uncorrelated parlays that were not that crazy, you could probably get to a million. I don't think DraftKings is letting us do it, though.

Get to a million. I think $250 is their limit that they'll let you win. I'm pretty sure. That's what it looks like here because they let me bet 50 bucks on a five-legger just now and then once we got once i had that other leg that's when they were like yeah i know what you're doing you're not becoming a millionaire off of us i i support him for that i like that yeah but it's like a saquon 50 plus receiving yards it's like plus 850 now

these are not bets i'm just saying this is what i okay all right this is the realm that you had to kind of be in yeah um i could get if i was on the cape i could probably get there but i don't know about now uh 100 plus receiving yards for dalton kincaid that's like plus 700 and that could happen nico buck 20 i would never do that that's at plus 700 and then bijon 70 plus receiving yards plus a thousand i would never do that but again now it's just to see what the price is well yeah what you know what what neighborhood are you in you know where are you shopping and we're we're in a very interesting store, but I'm just saying week to week, we might be able to string together five legs that are not that ridiculous. We had James Cook,

a hundred plus yards at plus 900 on the show last year. We did. Yeah. By we, we were together on that. Like he's got, never had a hundred yards in his career in a game and he got it, but I'm just saying

these opportunities present themselves and maybe i don't know maybe they do this year we did the we had the dolphins one too right who was like mostert or jeff wilson or something that was like 40 yards and a touchdown was like 20 to 1 or something like that yeah it's ridiculous like you can find those and i don't think you you could go broke i mean i guess you could go broke like betting them all like you bet a million of them but i say if you just stuck to like three or four a week you know you don't don't go ridiculous don't go like have your whole card you're like oh i just need these 15 long shots to hit you know nothing like that but i mean like remember the devito kid he was like two touchdown passes like four 30 or something dude two touchdowns against the commanders

who gave up like a thousand on the season like that's not that ridiculous you know what i mean so he was your boy yeah i know i i went after him the next week i found out quick that it was that was the washington team they don't have a lot to do with him it's a washington yeah so yeah hey lesson learned lesson learned i'm looking man it's like i like to bet outrights in golf i mean one dude's winning that tournament you sprinkle the board a little bit and you only need to hit a handful on the year to make a profit uh you know you're gonna have some weeks you take a bath and then

you come back and you know keep your mind clear make some good decisions yeah it's all it's definitely a different way to bet that's all it is there's no like this is a smart way there's a dumb way no it's you're you're playing prices you just you just got to understand what market you're in that's all i'm saying you're not in the minus 115 minus 10 game where you can hit 55 on the season like that would be a really good year, but that's doable. People do that, whereas this would never happen. You're never hitting 52% of your plus 700 bets. But the good news is you don't have to hit anywhere near that to be profitable at all.

You would be a millionaire if you could. If you can, DM me on Twitter. We should talk. Yeah, right. If you can hit 55% Twitter, we should talk. Yeah. Right. If you can hit 55% of your Millie parlays, then we should be in business together. Yes. Yeah. Definitely contact me. We'll, we'll hang out. It's like the weekly leader market before that got nuked, you go back like four years or so when that would come out and it would be so

soft. You'd be able to pick off some really bad numbers and that market's completely nuked. They come out with significantly shorter prices and they move on the drop of a dime now. So it's, you know, those are good days. Those days are no longer here. I could, I was gonna say, I could reminisce for like hours

on the bets that we had on those for like, God, all right, my favorite. Rashad Penny ran for like 150 yards. Then the following week week he was 80 to 1 to lead the league in rushing that week i mean that was like like what are they doing he ran for 200 he ran for like 200 we won that this is off subject but kind of since we're talking about seahawks running backs kenneth walker is he how are we targeting him i think he's i don't know if you agree with me but i i think he's going to be somebody.

I think it's going to be different there. You know what I'm doing. I got week one longest on the probably 16 and a half longest rush against Denver who gashed. I think he's going to get his chances too because I would think that they'd play that game from ahead. All right, Slop. Here you go.

Hitting you with that juice. Let's go. 125 plus rushing and receiving yards for Kenneth Walker in week one plus 550. That's in the mill. Stop talking. No, I'm just kidding. We're good. We're good.

After the show. After the show. No. Or if you want just rushing yards. Oh my god. He's 5-1 to have 100 rushing yards. Yeah, he's getting that. I think he's going to be their guy. That Charbonneau guy.

I don't think he's that good. No offense if you're watching Charbonneau. I don't know. I think he's kind of more of a receiver guy. Maybe he'd be good in the CFL. Not here. Kenneth Walker is an absolute beast. a receiver guy maybe be like good in the cfl maybe but like not here but like like kenneth walker is an absolute beast and the idea what's that all off season they talked him up all off season like their their head coach is like yeah he's the man their offensive coordinator is like

he's a three down back we're gonna use him every play we can we're gonna use in the passing game like we want to find the way to get the ball in his hands as much as possible like i don't know do you believe that i do yeah i mean okay yeah no i get nervous sometimes i don't know what to believe like because some guys are liars some guys aren't but this guy's new in the nfl right he's from washington right and they they did run they were a passing team in college ball don't get me wrong they threw the ball but they still ran like they they they didn't just throw throw throw throw every down so this guy if this guy not lying, which I don't think he is because it's his first year, Kenneth Walker is probably going to just go until he gets hurt. You know what I mean?

It's one of those. If he doesn't get hurt, then he's going to have a hell of a year. He hasn't said anything about Charbonneau at all. That's the tell-all. I don't like him. Poor Charbonneau. Yeah, but no receiving yards for kenneth walker what's that week one do we have that um i don't know if we have straight receiving yards um let's see i mean

it's probably under 20 i would guess that i would and immediately i would think let's go 25 plus yeah 25 plus is plus 260. You can go higher. Regular. Oh, as regular pop is 10 and a half. Oh, that's best for first quarter. Yeah.

It's a first quarter line. Is that a first drive bet? Yeah. And then it's like C Mac added here. Walker 110 plus rushing yards, plus 700 on draft Kings. I mean, it's going to be an awesome week.

One. I don't worry. Dude, like plus 700 for, plus 700 on DraftKings. I mean, it's going to be an awesome week one. We're already saying, dude, like plus 700 for that. We've already ripped a couple. These are some rough early lines. I got one in that game we just played just before the show started. You want to add to your same game parlay? I hit Bo Nix over 16 and a half rushing yards just before the show started. Kid ran a bunch in college, already ran a bunch of the preseason. 16 and a half is yards okay just before the show started kid ran a bunch in college already ran

a bunch of the preseason 16 and a half so low thresholds little sgp with our which one of you were on mems i think it was from one of your accounts you guys are pretty much the only fancy guys i follow too like like like actually read their posts no offense but like i think it was one of your tricks i saw it on twitter and I was like, yeah, I forgot about men's old regime. Well, not really that old regime. Like he, he came from the old regime, but they're Peyton was there last year. Right. So yeah.

Okay. But not, not men's. Okay. I'm a Corlin Sutton guy as well, but okay. Yeah. We're going to Portland now. We're Portland guys. I didn't behind that.

I liked him at SMU. I don't know if he's going to play. Like I, that's what, like, they're saying that even after the trade or, like, releasing Tim Patrick, like, he's, like, behind this guy named Devon Vele. Yeah, but you said Puka Nakua that same tone last year. Remember that? I think it was week one.

So that guy might be somebody. We might be on to something. What's his name? Devon Vele is our guy? Devon Vele. He might be. we might be on to something what's his name devon devon i'm just saying i remember he's like who's this i'm like yeah screw this puka guy and then i'm like wait who's this puka guy like he's got 10 catches every day what if uh jordan whittington is this year's puka nakua have you seen but he's on the same team um they've been talking him up a ton, and he's been crushing. I don't know.

There's some injury. For the Rams? Yeah, for the Rams. Texas kid. Is that who that is? Is he from Texas? Yep, yep. Yeah, that's him.

I remember him. I don't know. I don't know. What about Cooper Cup? Because everybody's talking about Cooper Cup, and it's like, well, there's only one football. So if Kyron Williams is going to set all kinds of records, Puka Nakua is going to set all kinds of records.

This new guy, he's getting the ball all the time. I don't know when all these guys get the ball. There's only one ball. I'm in on Cup. Injury. I don't know. Rumors swirling about Puka right now. So I think it could be a good time to capitalize on some cup alts in week one will

be on my list oh detroit yeah it's gonna be a hot game and puka hasn't really practiced much i mean he practiced like recently and he said he's good to go but like i don't know i'm not really buying that yeah no they always say good to go he's in the best shape of his life and he's good to go like those are the the two articles that you just like interchange the names it's like you can't you know what i mean you can never listen to that anytime they say good to go it's almost code for like don't start me you know best shape my life means i could have worked a little bit harder oh man he's ahead of where we expected him yeah yeah that's a good that's one of my favorite ones. I'm trying to think.

There was just one the other day I was like, man, come on, guys. Be better because it's so easy to see through it. Once you know what you're looking for, early on you got to get burned by it a few times before you're like, yeah, you're not going to get me with that again. My favorite football-ism in general is a running back that always falls forward. Okay, that's a good one that always falls forward. Okay. That's a good one. That's a great one.

That means he gets tackled all the time. Yeah, he always falls. He falls forward. He falls the right way when he gets tackled, which it separates him from everyone else. Right. They fall the wrong way. My favorite is when the coach is like, yeah,

we just got to find a way to get him the ball more and it's like dude like i feel like you call the plays right if you like really wanted to do that i'm pretty sure you would be able to somehow i don't know like somehow like but they because they always say it it's like yeah like we just we just don't know you know like we fucking we thought of everything but like i we just don't know how to get him the ball. It's like, yeah, it's like one of the wonders of the world. You're like, dude, this is so ridiculous. Oh man, that's so good.

There's a, speaking of a guy who doesn't fall forward that I got a DM this morning from Darren Summer saying that he liked Jerome Ford's over. And I was like, you know what? You know who else did? My co-host and partner in crime, Ryan Noonan, also likes Jerome Ford's over because I'll let you know what you know who else did my co-host and partner in crime Ryan Noonan uh also likes Jerome Ford's over because I'll let you take the floor here because I'm a little bit of a hater I would say yeah that was the pushback as you just said you know you think he's not good at football so um which yeah I don't know I don't even know if that's wrong necessarily

but at the same time just looks like opportunity it's pretty nice here too I also really like Pierre Strong I think Pierre Strong is really good but he's dinged up a little bit he was behind uh dionte foreman who they cut maybe you're gonna bring brack or whatnot like nick chubb's not here yet so right now we have a spot where like ford could be i don't know 80 90 of the carries in week one against dallas and that bodes pretty well that offensive line's healthy I think Dallas in general like their front is pretty weak I think you're going to be able to run on the Cowboys this season so you know it's a nice spot for them and a game that I think could you have some back and forth a little bit so yeah I mean 90 plus and nine and one is nice what was the

problem was like 40 something it's like 47 yards or something crazy that opened that it's 40 yeah it's like low 40s right now. So I went back and looked after Darren DM-ed me too, and I'm like, why do I not like this guy? Why do I think he sucks? I remember why now. Against Arizona, he had 20 carries for 44 yards. Against Cincinnati, he had 36 yards on 15 carries.

Against Houston, he had 25 yards on 15 carries. Against Houston, he had 25 yards on 15 carries. Their offensive line was beat up late last year. He was tired. Not even late. It was early in the year it was beat up. They lost like Conklin week one, week two. Imagine if he didn't fall forward when he got hit. Right.

They thought he falls forward. Yeah. They lost some dudes. Their offensive line wasn't great. Now a little bit better. Again, I'm not sure you're wrong on Ford overall, but just carries, right? That's it at running back.

We want opportunity. 90 is a little rich, but whatever is binary prop of 44.5, 47.5 is one of those two or something like that. That, I think, is pretty interesting. Maybe not the best that jumped out at us you know that might i wasn't alone and what's his hundred plus it's gotta be 12 or something i don't fall forward that's my problem i might like going the other way oh man let me see if i can find the uh the alts here so we have no had so far just off the top of our heads,

we got Kenneth Walker and there was someone else like right after we just talked about it. And I already forgot. Did we see alts on Cortland Sutton? No. No, it was right before him. I don't know. We'll figure it out.

I'm probably going to remember. But we have one. I would throw Ford in there at 900. What's this 100, though? I mean, let's not stop at 90. What are we? What are we, soft? We need one.

You know what I mean? Act like you've been petting football for months. Ford, it's only 90 is the max. That's how you know. They won't. Yeah, you know. He's getting it. They want none of this smoke. So that's that 90 is the max. And that's how they, that's how, you know, they won't. Yeah. You know, he's getting,

they want none of this smoke. So that's that. That's two. I I'm pretty sure like we just, Oh wait, was it, was it cup? Yeah,

it was cup. Yeah. Cup bolts. Yeah. Okay. Cup bolts. Yeah. Cup bolts against Detroit.

I mean, that seems like, again, we got to find right matchups. That's all we really got to do. And then we're in. So she just want to get stuck. Yeah. I mean, that seems like, again, we got to find right matchups. That's all we really got to do, and then we're in. So, she just wants to get stuck. Yeah, 100 yards is 330.

120 is plus 650. I mean, this is, yeah, this is nice. Catch 15 balls, 175 yards. Nakua doesn't play. He's a decoy. Yeah, literally. Jordan Whittington and Cup, you know, go for 200 combined. Yeah, they just go nuts

i mean they might have to oh you know the only problem with that is i would probably be wanting to go james and williams just for the culture oh baby we are we will be doing that all year already reached that point of the season oh yeah there is no way. That Rams defense is going to be everything I thought it was last year. Okay. It's not going to be good. Not good. What have they been saying about Williams? They like him?

He's going to play a bunch. He's going to be like a full-time player this year. Oh, shit. What's his? The receiving number, the reception line is going to be higher because last year it was like one and a half all the time. So now we're just going to be banging under three and a half for a buck and a quarter or whatever we're going to have to do. But we'll be doing it for sure.

So we're looking at like 80 plus is like plus 650. We can get that on one play, you know. 90 plus is 10 to one. One play. Yeah. So Jameson Williams, Kenneth Walker, and and ford i mean that's super cup yeah and cup now i mean we're yeah we're almost to millie right i mean that's it pretty close i mean give me two more i got thoughts i got thoughts we just need to we just need six guys but at six

guys they won't even let us that'll'll be like a 15-cent parlay. Watch. You'll literally be able to bet 15 cents to win 250 grand. Some idiot could have hit one of those. That's my theory, and those idiots could be us. You know what I mean? I'm willing to be that idiot. I'm willing to do that.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, dude, if that's being stupid, at 15 cents, I can be stupid forever. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, dude, if that's being stupid at 15 cents, I can be stupid forever. You know what I mean? Like, who cares? It's 15 cents. 15 cents doesn't get you anything nowadays. Like, literally. But it could get you $250,000, you know?

Yeah. If it got you $250,000, you'd be happy you had that 50 cents. Or 15 cents, sorry. Yeah, so no, that's my theory on those. Probably never going to hit one. But, dude, what if you did? or 15 cents sorry yeah so no that's my theory on those just so you know like that probably never gonna hit one but dude what if you did you know that's the question you really gotta ask yourself like not am i gonna hit this yeah it's like what if i did hit this yeah i love i love you know these quarterback rushing lines when they have high upside because

the number is just not that high you know just one really big play yeah they can start to hit some of these ladder steps with all some of some of your elite runners too are not going to get like the their number they're not going to get that in a linear way you know i'm saying they're going to have 10 yards they have a buck buck four you know i'm saying they have 90 they're gonna you know and then it's going to go back to nothing you know what i mean so like you're they're just giving you like the mean you know what i mean like they're not really giving you what they think's gonna happen because they have no idea it's a running quarterback like you just don't know yeah that's the eyeball on the danny jones lines um those are interesting interesting. And Minnesota loves to blitz their face off.

Daniel Jones is going to be running for his life. Tuck and run a couple times, break one for 20, and now all of a sudden 40-plus at like 5-1 or whatever is well within reach. So those will be some things that we'll probably have official plays next week too. So I'll bring it back on the rails for our season-long stuff. Sorry, guys. No, that's why i love the show there's really i mean we have kind of a very loose skeleton structure but that's why the show is uh as fun as it is to do we can go we can go anywhere um i want to give you guys a couple of uh let's a couple defensive lines here let's go this is a guy that i gave out as a over on his sack uh bets and still

playable uh the numbers a little bit it's moved a little bit but um jalen carter we played over 6.75 sacks at plus 112 on fanduel still minus 112 on fanduel so absolutely fine with that they also have 10 plus if you go into team specials and click into, it'll give you like five or six bets for each team. Jalen Carter to record 10 plus sacks at plus 470. Dude's just going to play a lot more. He played 51% of the snaps last year. Fletcher Cox retired. So you're probably looking at like 60, 75% for carter last year he was awesome on limited snaps he ranked 35th in pass rush snaps but 15th in total pressures his uh win rate was only behind dexter lawrence and and uh aaron donalds if you don't know if you heard him pretty

good player no longer in the league um but like if we get we're getting actually like 75 70 snaps for for carter i think this is like legit like his range of outcomes i think it's probably closer to a median outcome you know nine and a half sacks or something like that so plus 470 for carter to get to 10 i think is very very doable you know the top interior defensive lineman in the league routinely are getting 10 12 sacks you think like where chris jones is every every year, Justin Matabuke last year at 13, like Carter is in that class, if not better in the next couple of years. So plus 470, absolutely love him.

And then two like season long things, sack leaders. They're a little bit lower than the other top tier guys, but they're top tier guys. Nick Bosa, 10 to one on Caesars to lead the league in sacks. Aiden Hutchinson, 18 to one, also on Caesars to lead the league in sacks Aiden Hutchinson 18-1 also on Caesars to lead the league in sacks these guys were one and two in total pressures last year you can go over on PFF they have like a expected sack rate metric these guys both fell below their expected sacks last year like four and a half so you add four and a half sacks to what they did when you

look at like win rate pressure rate all those different things these guys should have been way above and now we're getting a discount because they underperformed last year so ceiling outcomes for them um are way way higher than what they did last year so these guys are like again they're under 20 so they're not like long shot bombs but they should be closer to you know where the other guys are in like the five, six, seven range. And you're getting a discount on Bosa and Hutch.

So those are my favorite, like sack leader props at their price. Love it. Dogs. Love it. I don't think slop or I have much to add in terms of defense. It's always on my, my defensive thoughts go.

Yeah. I'll be honest. Like, yep. Love it. Rattle it off and it prints us money. And then I'll be honest. Like, yep. Love it. Rattle it off and it prints us money. And then that's it. You know, that's, that's all we got to, you know,

my favorite part is whenever he starts saying them and I'm like, I'm like trying to put them in and you're like, you can see the number to start getting nuked and you're like, Oh yeah, this show is live. That's it. That's, that's the sack. That's going to be the tackle stuff again. We're ready.

Week one projections are ready to go. We're for the books to uh pump out the rest of the rest of the games uh you guys gonna be like play out we're gonna play off parlays uh super bowl thoughts you know there's like you know winless teams i got a handful of these you guys have anything or anything else you want to do connor i'll give it to you first raiders worst record 12 to 1 um i think anything over 10 to 1 is fine the team's a disaster um luke getzey hate him if you listen to any of my shows i think he just sucks worst offensive coordinator in the league um davante already trade rumors about that uh about him potentially like bauer is already injured starting gardener minshu behind

a bad offensive line like I just think the office is gonna be a complete disaster so um obviously I think Max Crosby's good I think Christian Wilkins good they have some good players but um I think the floor falls out so I'm in on him at 10 or 10 or more to one um to be the worst team in the league this year uh yeah that's your your stance I'm i think they're gonna be better than than people think i don't think they're gonna be good but i think they'll be they're gonna win some games because that defense can wreak some havoc so but a decent decent price uh what else you got slop anything else for us i had nothing i still got um from that receiver touchdown parlay garrett

wilson 10 plus and that was the dumb one like i don I don't see how – I don't know what I was thinking. I mean, I think he can get 10. I'm just saying like – I love it. I got Garrett Wilson on my sheet for Garrett Wilson to lead the league in receiving yards. Yeah, 10 touchdowns though. Like I like receiving yards.

I wish I would have went – I don't think they would let me do that because I wanted yards for him, not touchdowns. I mean, Rodgers has always been a big red zone passing guy. I don't know. And he's been like a lock on my guy. I feel better. I feel better. I like it.

Okay. You should feel good about that. I did a little bold predictions thread. One of my bold predictions was Gary Wilson scores 15 touchdowns this year. Oh, then I won. That's plus 250. That's already cash. All right. Good, then I won. That's plus 250. That's already cash. All right. Good, good, good. That's huge.

And then the last one for the four-leg was CeeDee Lamb go 10+. That was only plus 115. I don't know why I put that in there. But it went 100 to get seven grand for Friermuth. Who did I say? Who was the second guy? Oh, Evans, Lamb, and Wilson.

Okay. So I thought that would be fun to win. Yeah. You know? Nice little 7K. It'll be like a nice little bonus, you know, in December. It's one you forget about too, like a Christmas present. Yeah.

And it could be one that like hits like in November already and you're just done. And then you're like, all right, well, I have to to wait until you know january to collect this cash yeah no i'll like log in and just look at it like every day you know what i mean like yeah it's gonna be fun when they can have that by week two yeah i think you will i think three touchdown games that's it you know yeah that's it that's all you need just do the math i mean just start adding stuff up so he catches three this one week three the next week and that's we didn't even need the third one on the second week. That was just for show. Style points.

Before we go, I do have one play that is not on any domestics right now and got yanked and we didn't play it, but it's still on PrizeFix. It's still on Vivid. I think a couple other ones. Mecole Hardman, under any receiving number, I don't think he runs a route, I don't think he runs a route. I don't think he runs a single route, but he's going to play special teams. So he's going to play snaps. He's their starting special teams guy. So here, hear me out. So in the preseason,

he never played with the starters. So he didn't run a single route with the starters in their week two of preseason. Um, and then he was still playing with the second team in week three of preseason. They rested Justin Watson, Sky Moore, Rasheed Rice, and like, uh, and Xavier Worthy, Mark Meikle Hardman played like a quarter of that game. Um, and then they signed Juju Smith Schuster who already knows the system and everything. Like, I think he's probably active for week one. Maybe he doesn't play a lot, but I think he's that fifth or sixth guy. And then Mikko Hardman is wide receiver seven. He literally is wide receiver.

I don't think that he runs a single route outside of playing special teams. That's my total. 15 and a half, 19 and a half or something like that? Yeah, 15 and a half, 16 and a half right now in prize picks. Again, obviously if he sees a target, it could be deep downfield. And if he is running routes, it's going to get a little sweaty. But he sucks so bad anyways that even if he is running routes,

it might not even matter. Another out. Yeah, he just sucks. We bet over 13 and a half in a playoff game. He had three targets 20 yards downfield. Didn't catch a single one of them. We lost. I mean, it was embarrassing.

Is that why you're mad at him? I still mad i'm still very mad and this is the best way to get revenge is winning money here in week one on a line that shouldn't even exist yeah i know you hate unders but now well no does he have to suit up like he just has to i'm sorry he just has to suit up though right does he have to play a snap he snap? He has to play a snap, but he's on special teams. So he'll play a snap on special teams. He's their kicker turner and I think punt returner too. Okay, but he won't even be on the field. Okay. But I don't think he's going to play.

I legitimately don't think he runs around offensively the entire game. No way you can catch a pass if you don't do that. I heard. That's what I heard. Never been done. I checked before the show. Actually, I'm sorry. Quarter's what I heard. Never been done. I checked before the show. Actually, I'm sorry. Quarterbacks can do that. They don't have to run around. If they catch one, they probably didn't run around.

They're receivers. They're receivers. I didn't check quarterback in the query, but receivers, never been done. So, all right. Guys, good news for next week. Great news for next week. I'm already three legs in, and it's plus 57,000. So that thing should be –

Oh, my God. It could be done before I eat my next meal. I'll be honest with you. I'm probably going to sit here and do that once we hang up. Let's go. I got a couple team ones. We've some, like, you know, playoff parlays here. I'll rattle off some stuff for you get your guys's

thoughts i get a couple layups i think for for both to make and miss and then a couple maybe a little bit more off the board get the numbers a little bit bigger these are both available on draft kings and fanduel apologies to draft kings fanduel has the best price for these and we'll let you actually uh bet more than um i think i was able to get a dollar 91 down on DraftKings. So I went over to FanDuel, found better prices and the ability to bet. So shout out to the sponsors. Thank you,

DraftKings. Um, to miss the playoffs, just kind of low hanging fruit here. Uh, three teams, they allow FanDuel allow you to parlay up to three to miss, and they'll let you get seven on the make,

right? Which is, you know, interesting how they do thatlay up to three to miss, and they'll let you get seven on the make, right, which is interesting how they do that. Three to miss. Denver, the Giants, and the Bucs. Anyone want to push back on that? Bucs are your only shot, really, right? Yeah. Denver's not making the playoffs.

Giants aren't making the playoffs either. The Giants aren't making the playoffs, yeah. Plus 104 on FanDuel. Don't hate that at all. To miss the playoffs as well. A little bit spicy teams that are probably closer to the threshold of making it. Jacksonville, down on Jacksonville this year. The Los Angeles Rams and the Dallas Cowboys.

Cowboys are the spicy one. To miss the playoffs, that is plus 754 on FanDuel. I like Seattle as that back-end playoff team. I have some questions on Dallas in terms of go back and listen to our divisional preview episodes. I don't like Dallas to make the playoffs. Easy to make the playoffs. Chiefs, Niners, and Texans all to make the playoffs chiefs niners and texans all to make the playoffs plus 131

those teams are making the playoffs right like yeah they could even probably survive quarterback injuries for the most part and still maybe make the playoffs so yeah maybe not with houston as much but uh plus 131 yeah yeah uh and then a little bit spicier jets to make the playoffs packers to make the playoffs and then seattle to make the playoffs plus 650 those are my uh to make the playoffs again like just finding ways to get seattle in there boost it up quite a bit um i think those are fun and the pats last winless team five to one on fanduel just we We just did the AFC East yesterday. That Pats schedule is brutal. It's really brutal to start.

It becomes, I guess, their only shot in the opening schedule is week two at home against Seattle. I think Seattle is a playoff team. I have a hard time getting there that they're going to, even with the West to East stuff and all that nonsense, I think Seattle goes and handles their business against the Pats, especially early in the season without you know christian barmore that defense is not going to be as good as maybe people thought it was going to be so uh five to one for new england to be the

last winless team i can't find a win i don't know where the first win is week seven in london against jacksonville week nine against tennessee like those are road games even, or not home games. So a tough spot for New England, 5-1, to be the last winless team. Sorry. Yeah. I agree with you. We've got a fun one here, too, from Boogie Knights. Eagles rushing touchdown every regular season game, 22-1. Don't hate that because of the tush push and Jalen Hurts and everything.

I'm sure that the math does not pan out, but that's fun, so I'm in. I've had that with Connor a couple times. When I know it doesn't work out, I just don't even think about it. You know what I mean? I've had a couple with Connor. I'm like, I like this. The math probably makes no sense, but it actually seems like a fun way to bet it, especially early season when they put the futures

and they group them together for you where you're like, okay, this is, you know, it's just, you one click it. You don't have to think about the actual, you know, true probabilities or anything like that too.

Also, we made our predictions to my last one. My Superbowl prediction was Detroit against the chiefs. You can bet that on FanDuel. That matchup is basically 28 to 1 don't hate and if you actually like the lions over the chiefs like i went with it is 55 to 1 so connor your uh eagles over the chiefs is 65 to 1 fyi oh nice so you're also 28 to 1 for the matchup so those are. Those are available out there

too. A little bit. Put your money where your mouth is. Get a little sprinkle on your season long takes. Why not? I love it. Not bad numbers. Got to have something. Got to have something. That wraps it up. I cannot wait for next Friday. Again,

3 p.m. Eastern. Prop drop. If you're first time here, get a sense of what's going to be coming on next Friday. Again, 3 p.m. Eastern, prop drop. If you're first time here, you've got a sense of what's going to be coming on next week. Again, we start to get a little bit of season-long stuff. We can get into some of the alts, uncorrelated parlay, same-game stuff. We'll have some normal binary straight-up props for you as well. We'll also go a little bit off the boards

and get a little bit wonky for you too. But again, I hope you get a sense of it too, some thought behind it. We want to try to think through these things and give ourselves some opportunities. Why not us, right? Someone's going to go out and do it to slop's point. Let it be this group of three idiots that goes home and brings home 500K or a million on something like that. So subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

Find Move the Line. We'll be back on Friday for that too. Four for four bets on the YouTube channel. So for Connor and Slop, I'm Ryan. We'll see you all next time. Thanks, everyone.