Move The Line - 2024 NFL Mock Draft 4.0 & Combine News!

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

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hello and welcome to move the line presented by four for four bets i'm ryan noonan back to talk three weeks out guys back with my very smart friends vegas refund scott smith connor allen here to talk about all things nfl draft continue to be your home for all things nfl draft betting specifically here on the four for four bets youtube channel as we get close here markets coming out with some new stuff on draft kings last night that we're going to get into today super stoked about that too let's start with connor what's going on buddy how we doing today yeah not much uh excited to start betting a little bit more i got a couple of good plays that i think we got uh in the hopper that you know we might release here in the coming week or so yeah we pushed on some of that stuff

last week and some of those line you know movement has happened without uvr but uh good to have you back in the saddle buddy what's going on going on have a uh sleeping baby that i'm gonna bet on the other under on him staying asleep for the next hour but you're probably good yeah yeah uh some stuff to talk about uh in the news that have happened since we've last met as well i know scott is doing his work grinding those top 30 visits and his latest mock draft mock draft 2.0 is the freshest up on the site right now over at four for four.com i'm sure we'll touch on some of that today as well scott what's going on bud not too much it just seems that every time i drop a mock the big news happens right afterwards you know the bills went ahead and traded stuff on digs which

kind of changes the back end of what i already had set so i'm sure we'll kind of hit on some of that but uh look it's it's the home stretch we're down to about three weeks left so it's time to start getting some live plays out there and start seeing some of the action yeah so you want to take advantage get all the live plays that we're going to do here uh with this group of four for four go ahead and subscribe go to four for four.com slash plans check that out you can get a betting subscription for the rest of the year, get in the discord, get all that stuff. Some exciting, more information on that to come here in the coming days, which I think will be enticing for you. If you are kind of just hanging out and grabbing the free stuff for now, you don't want

to check that out very, very soon. If you are not hanging out with us on YouTube, obviously available in podcast form as well, wherever you listen to podcasts, subscribe, rate, review, all those things go a long way in helping us. Before we kind of jump in, I kind of want to walk through a mock today too, as a group and get some consensus, some additions from Scott with what he had of late and maybe any more news, but Conrad, I'll get to you to kind of touch on what Scott is is talking about there and has been mentioned here in the chat obviously we about 24 hours ago you could grab a bill's first draft pick wide receiver at like plus 110 on both draft kings and fan duel and that is cooked out now to i don't know like minus 240 or so uh first pick for the bills to be a wide receiver, minus 300 on DraftKings, minus 240 on FanDuel. Obviously, everything else is massively dipped.

What are your thoughts or any takeaways there with Steph Diggs trade, Connor? Yeah, I mean, I did grab some at minus 110, like around even yesterday. And I think that especially for you, for all of you who use like PPH and like offshore stuff like that, I mean, that lingered around for an extra 20, 30 minutes. Again, having access to that stuff is pretty invaluable, especially when stuff like this happens. But even then, FanDuel, Caesars had it up for a couple minutes. At this point, I think that they're very live to trade up for someone like Brian Thomas.

I think that there was a video clip that went around that I believe Hayden Winks or someone else tweeted out that was Josh Allen talking about which wide receivers he liked. This is like a month or so old. And Brian Thomas was the first one he listed also listed AD Mitchell. So I think that both of those guys are super live for the bills, whether it's trading up or even standing Pat. Um, you know, I think that initially we were interested in them drafting, maybe a guy like Xavier worthy is kind of like a field stretcher to support some of the middle of the field guys that they have with Kincaid, with Shakir in some sense, with Stefan Diggs. But now without Diggs, I think they're more in play for kind of like an alpha. So I think that someone like Brian Thomas makes a little bit more sense

in my mind that could play on the outside and inside. So yeah, I mean, I wouldn't lay the minus 240 at the current price, but again, I dropped it in the Discord, not as an official play, but I mentioned it was like, hey, get this immediately. I think a bunch of our subs did too. So yeah, just another shameless promo there for our subscription. Yeah, jump in there. Before we jump into the mock too, we had a new market pop, DraftKings specific,

which is interesting. And I'm going to share my screen here. We can take a look at this too vr i know you want to uh touch on this uh here this is a first round odds on draft kings some of these are quite interesting um you know i'll give you the floor like you're uh should take it away yeah so i mean first off these are fake gods like odds. Like, in terms of implied probability, this is just not real. But it is funny because usually, at least DraftKings, usually releases over-unders first.

And then we've gotten first-round odds the week of or the week before the draft actually kicked off. Getting them off of it so far out, I was not expecting that whatsoever and they popped i want to say around like 10 last night maybe a little bit earlier and they pulled them i want to say within it took only 40 minutes for them to pull them and i don't know if it had to do with jordan morgan because they had them listed at joshua morgan at first and i don't know if they pulled them to correct it which i currently currently have a Joshua Morgan ticket, unfortunately. Hopefully that doesn't become unfortunate.

But a bunch of them moved. I want to say there were like four or five guys. I think I jumped on four, but the big movers were Jordan Morgan opened at minus 120, which that was pretty wrong. And then it moved to 180, and now it's up to 230. I won't be surprised if this gets past 300 within the next couple days or maybe a week. And then I would say Edgerton Cooper was probably the biggest mover, which he's another guy I hopped on. But he opened at 6-1 down to 3-30. And Cooper and Rakestraw were two guys

that I jumped on myself, which I got Cooper at 5-50 and then Rakestraw at 500, which these were purely based off of the Jeremiah top 50 that ironically came out yesterday as well, which really all you have to do is who is jeremiah higher on than the consensus which the athletic consensus opened or updated yesterday as well and rake straw and cooper are two guys he has in his top 30 i think cooper is 20 26 rake straw is 28 and then the consensus has both guys 35 30 ish i don't know i could look on my google sheet but really that just kind of implies or you could maybe assume hopefully it's been pretty accurate the last couple years that jeremiah has a guy ranked ahead of what the consensus does those

could be guys that we see teams are higher on than might be being portrayed by the media which could present i guess quote unquote value in the draft market so the other two guys hopped on jordan mergen as well at minus 180 i i ethically i don't think i could recommend anything higher than 200 but um it's only going to go up at this point as well um and then who else did i get i think those three and then maybe someone else i forget but yeah that's pretty much it i mean they're all moving like sometimes they update these odds like give it like a quick refresh after a couple days and you can jump on them again but there are a couple guys that i'm eyeing that I'm not going to, I'm going to keep the lead buried for now with how sensitive it is.

There are some, there is some value here, but like you see guys like Frank Gore Jr. At the very bottom. And obviously that is there for name value and rice. Sure. But a couple of, a lot of these guys at the bottom are popping up in mocks here and there always worth a bullet there's a strong consensus right now for the first round so finding a spot

for a lot of these long shots to fit in based off of what we're seeing in mocks is probably going to be a little bit harder than what we've seen in the past but i would probably say wide receivers or corners are maybe sneaking. McConkie is the one I'm probably going to regret not taking. He's definitely getting a lot more popular in the mocks, especially with the bills pretty much locked in at a wide receiver. But, and then like the other one,

I was worthy, like worthy being minus one 20. I'm not betting it, but just comparing him to Mitchell where i just think they should be probably closer um that was like one of my first thoughts like mitchell at minus 800 i mean bo nicks at minus 200 like are you kidding me like what it's just fake um but yeah scott what are your takeaways here anything uh jump out to you or any thoughts uh some guys that i think have been uh in the back

half of your mock draft here pop it up and maybe some plus money odds or some guys are at least interesting yeah so the two guys that he hit on jordan morgan um he's a guy that there's some arguments among the scouting community whether or not he's gonna have to kick into guard or whether or not he can play right tackle there's uh some some good sources specifically with baltimore um that they think he can play right tackle and that he would good sources specifically with Baltimore that they think he can play right tackle and that he would definitely be in play. Both him and Tyler Guyton are two of the players that are getting a lot of interest there with Baltimore and their pick there at 30. Specifically though, the Edrin Cooper one is the one that interests me the most.

I've reached out to a few people that I know in the Dallas market that are connected with Cowboys, and they seem to think that Cooper is definitely in play for the Cowboys as high as their pick there. Specifically, the thought process is that Tyler Smith is going to move over to left tackle full time, and that because of how weak this linebacker class is that Edrin Cooper is definitely in play there in round one VR went ahead and mentioned some of the stuff with Dan Jeremiah's rankings and some of the other rankings across the you know the industry and whatnot and Edrin Cooper because of how weak this class is you know he's definitely a player that if a team

needs the linebacker help it needs to get out in front of the market, he's definitely a player that if a team needs linebacker help and needs to get out in front of the market, then he could be a first-round pick. The other thought process specifically with Dallas is that this tends to be a little bit deeper of an interior offensive line class, and the movement of Tyler Smith specifically to left tackle would allow them to get a player that they project as a starter caliber later on in the draft and still be able to go ahead and get Edron Cooper. So I think there is a lot of smoke and a lot of signals that Edron Cooper could be a first round pick, but specifically there to Dallas. They have done meetings with him at every single opportunity they could. Pro Day, Combine, I think they have a top 30 scheduled with them.

And Dallas is specifically one of those teams with Jerry Jones where they do tend to pick players that they visited with. So I think Edger and Cooper, there's still some value left there at 330. And with VR getting on them down at 550, I think that's a hell of a play. And the one thing I want to touch with on morgan like morgan like my only hesitation is it's somewhat the opposite of like cooper and rickstraw that i mentioned with jeremiah's rankings which morgan's the one guy that jeremiah has ranked higher than the consensus he has him at 39 like the consensus has him as a consensus first rounder so i guess

that's the the one kicker that has me a little bit worried i guess if you in terms of like laying this price but at the same time these tackles are going to go um over on his nine and a half and i think it's going to go over and then cooper like scott said like the 30 meetings which i just learned that it's not top 30 meeting. It's just 30 meeting. And there's the case we made that guys that are having a lot of 30 meetings, like I think it was Rappaport through to this last year. So they have a lot of 30 meetings. Like they have questions to be answered to teams. And if you see guys that aren't having a lot of 30 meetings,

then there's really just, they check out, they check all the boxes and there's no really big reason to bring them in. But that's remained to be seen. But Cooper's had 30 meetings with the Eagles, Cowboys, Packers, Bucks, which is picks 22 through 26. And I want to say,

I don't think anyone in his range has had at least four 30 meetings so far, I think, or even close. So, I mean, and like Scott said, like the Cowboys really tipped their hand.

Like the only team that tips their hand more on meetings is probably the Steelers. So that's also in play with just that's four 30 meetings within five picks. That would put them squarely in the Jeremiah range of 26. If it's a massive team need to yeah. Dallas needs a linebacker question here for Scott to wondering what your inside sources are hearing about Kingsley from BYU. He's someone that's been in the back end of your mock draft here.

Plus one 70 to go in the first round. Obviously whatever's going on with rashid rice does that switch up needs for kansas city obviously a lot still pending there that's been kind of the favorite spot two teams are just mocking one of you know a lot of times it's been mitchell or worthy or throwing a back-end receiver uh there to kansas city but i know offensive line is still in need as well and Kingsley has been someone that you've been kind of honing on here. Any thoughts there? So specifically when it comes to Kingsley, Sua, Mattia, there's, if you look at the trends throughout the NFL, the majority of the left tackles that you have starting in NFL are first round picks. And unlike some of the other

offensive tackles or offensive linemen that are projected to go in the first round, he squarely projects as a tackle. It's not something where you're getting a lot of projection with him moving on to the inside. So a lot of teams will have him a little bit higher than maybe a guy like Jordan Morgan and whatnot. There are some concerns about his motor and about his work ethic. And those concerns are that he needs to be kept on track and he needs to be motivated to kind of get the most out of him. My understanding is that he had a strong meeting and workout specifically with Kansas city. That is a team that he has been linked to most. And whenever I do research and keep hearing, that's the team that he's connected to. It fits a need. Um, you do have some of the Rasheed Rice information coming out.

So some people are kind of pivoting and going back to that wide receiver. But with with some of the legal stuff that I've seen, there are there is a thought process out there that Rasheed Rice may not even miss any time with with him kind of cooperating now after everything, when you start to look into the Texas legal code and stuff, it's really going to probably end up being a misdemeanor or pleaded down, you know, to nothing. So that's kind of my thought process. I don't really pivot back to the wide receiver. I think offensive line is still squarely in play. And Kingsley Suomatai is definitely a guy that is connected there to Kansas City. Yeah. And kind of one of the last ones too, in terms of like guys that are occasionally popping the first round or have first round grades, we touched on a like Zach Frazier last week who we were seeing pop up a

little bit. He's down here in less of a tackle, more of an interior lineman or even center with Frazier at eight to one, which is interesting to see too. So yeah, some of these names become viable, but to VR's point, like they're kind of fake odds. Unless definitely in terms of like guys at the top

and their probabilities of coming in here. Connor, real quick, before we hop into our mock draft, anything to add based off of these first round odds? No, a lot of it seemed priced pretty correctly. I think the only thing I would like to add is that FanDuel normally drops this exact same market. And usually you can parlay them. Now they dropped the top five market and they can't do that.

But sometimes there's a couple. I mean, I'm pretty confident Graham Barton is going to be a first round pick. Again, not sure I would recommend or go lay minus 1000. I'm not, you know, Dane, I don't do that. But I do think that if you could parlay like one or two of these guys, you know, I think generally it, it's a little bit more palatable for most people. So. Yeah.

They let you start parlaying like the week of like, so if like the odds came out today, like they wouldn't let you parlay, but yeah. And like the week of they open up the front gates for that. Two years ago, they let you parlay right away and it was fantastic. Oh yeah.

Which is why they no longer let you parlay right away. And rivers usually releases this market. And there were some that were just like wild. It was like Darnell right open to like minus two 50 to be a first round pick or something like that, which is obviously like way off. So that is something that I did lay the juice on and it was just like maxing whatever they give me,

which again, it wasn't very much, but you know, it adds up. Yeah. Spends the same at the end. So I just didn't see. And again, like, yeah, it's like cool. Shout out draft Kings. very much but you know it adds up yeah spends the same at the end so all right interesting to see and again like yeah it's like cool shout out draft kings we appreciate you being first at the

same time like they take on zero small limits and they're willing to take on zero risk with some of these prices so it's like we want to give you props for being out early but at the same time it's like it's kind of like every year like i wish like if there was like a no like there's some good i mean it's every year it's a one-way market it must be nice but yeah the nose would be just as fun we're so thirsty for it they know they can get away with this stuff so all right let's mock uh we all kind of agree that you know there's definite warming consensus we tried to push back on a little bit that that last week in terms of what's going on in the top 10.

Um, but you know, for the sake of it, I think we want to try to get to the meat of the middle here, the first round to have some discussion so we can kind of fly around, uh, and get this first part of it out. Well, obviously we, you know, we have to dance around four or five and what that trade looks like and who that is. Uh, but for the sake of everything here, I'll take the first pick, and I will go with Caleb Williams to the Bears. I feel pretty confident about that, guys. Wow.

I'm not even going to let you – I'm not even going to open up for discussion. That's how confident I feel. Scott, I'm going to give you the floor for number two. So I have pivoted. The majority of the smoke is on Jaden Daniels. You've been getting some J.J. McCarthy news as of late. I don't necessarily buy that. The majority of that news is coming from his quarterback's coach,

who at the pro day, apparently, the Washington Brass and front office members said, look, J.J. McCarthy has all the tools. I don't know what else they're going to tell him. It's not like they're going to be like, hey, your guy looked like shit or anything like that i mean by all accounts he did have a good pro day the best pro day of the quarterbacks but i just think there's too much of a projection there so jayden dams is going to be the pick for washington at two all right uh vr pats i'm gonna go uh drake may this is just, it's pretty simple. Drake May, it feels like Drake May has kind of gotten the CJ Stroud treatment the last couple weeks.

Like last year where, last year there was that small window of people kind of, it wasn't like the Wunderlich or whatever it was. There was like just a window of devaluing Stroud. And then all of a sudden as we get closer, it was. There was just a window of devaluing Stroud, and then all of a sudden, as we get closer, it was just nonsense. It kind of seems like a similar situation with Drake May right now. It's just something to talk about and see all the videos.

Drake May, who's been a consensus top three pick for the last two years, really, whether it was based off his receivers or just last year being a down year he's kind of been getting shit on and people are pumping jj ahead of him and could happen but i'm just not buying it yet and drake may and i think the patriots are going to stick there i think they're going to take quarterback you look at the quarterbacks next couple years it is a tough tough scene and i think craft wants a qb and i think he might

be saying that it's mayo's decision but in the end it's really his you saw both coaches or you saw wolf and mayo say they were going to spend all the free agent money this offseason and they didn't spend a dime and you wonder why because who's in charge craft and here we are and he's saying it's going to be Mayo's decision. And I think it's going to be his decision. I think he wants a quarterback and I think they're going to take one. I think it's going to be Drake May. Yeah, I think you're, I think you're right.

Cause it's just, it's bleak without a quarterback. And theoretically it's nice to, you know, add a bunch of building blocks and add a QB when you're ready. And when you're ready, you don't typically get the shot to do it. So Connor, the burden falls on you. Arizona at four. Do they stay in Stan Pat?

Did they make a pick? Or they, they're going to get a bunch of deals here. You made the joke with us earlier in the chat that like Monty also Ford is like the South park dad and whatever, whatever question of which dad picture that is. it's, it's him right now. He's got all, he's got all the answers that coming into him flying. He's going to get a lot for this pick if they want to move off of it.

Who does it? Yeah, I I'll go with just the Vikings. Just keep it like kind of traditional here for the, at least the top part of the mock. I think that they would have to give up, you know, 11, 23, and then plus something else specifically. I do think though. So initially I was like pretty bullish on them trading sooner than later. And I think from a perspective of Minnesota, Denver, you know, the Raiders,

the Giants, I would assume that they all are trying to offer stuff, but it might be beneficial, honestly, for the Cardinals to wait and see if you can continue to drive the price up kind of like they did with, you know, Houston. And, you know, apparently there was other people trying to bid for that number three pick last year in that sense. And then they wound up getting an amazing deal. And we already, I mean, you know, the video is going viral, Monty Austin for it, just like, you know, speaking outrageously fast, thinking fast, like talking, like it was crazy. And I think that that's almost the environment that i think arizona like is willing to go into again and so and i think that we could see another draft day

trade which is going to be horrible for mox horrible for us terrible for betting like it's it's very very makes our lives way more difficult but i think that's what we're going to see here and they're going to pick jj mccartney also this mock sims board is a little wild like there's some stuff it is so annoying yeah i mean also like if they're listening give us like a go back button for god's sakes like agree click the wrong guy or like you want to change something like don't make us restart like come on yeah at least can i can filter my sword by adp too is that i don't think so you can't no i was wondering that too because i've done a couple of these and i'm like dude why is it like i mean no offense i just like you're doing a mock draft i don't really care what your opinion is on the

player like i just want what the adp is yeah no they you can go in the settings you can manipulate like who they if you do auto like are they going off of consensus board versus their rankings but it doesn't give you the ability to filter it here in the drop down uh so all right uh back to me at five i mean i still think this is a chance that uh the chargers are trading back um but i know you've been on this too or you know push back again a little bit on marvin harrison jr landing there i think for the sake of moving this forward, I'm just going to take Marvin Harrison Jr. for the Chargers. But I think Chargers moving back is still very much in play and viable as well. Scott, good with neighbors at six. Are there any thoughts there?

Yeah, I'm good with neighbors at six. I think he's the projection. A little bit of pushback they've been getting is with some off-the-field concerns. That stems back from a couple of years ago, specifically at Mardi Gras. He was basically in a little sweep of the crowd. He was found to have a gun. Those charges were thrown out and dropped. So, you know, it is what it is. I don't think there's much else past that.

So neighbors pick for the Giants. Imagine going to Mardi Gras without your gun. Like, I mean, it's just a kid. You got to be strapped, bro. I mean, come on. the streets are wild out there look the other option is to leave it in your vehicle in which case it's just gonna get stolen and broken into there so right or if you're connor they just take the whole car you know like so what are you gonna do you know you can't even go retaliate so uh vr alt to seven any thoughts thoughts on, uh, mixing it up?

I'm going to mix it up. I'm going to trade and I'm going to, I'm going to, and this might be like two assumed, but I'm just going to do it anyway. But, uh, I'm going to trade the Cardinals into seven. I like this.

And they're going to give up 11. And I don't know what's more realistic, 23 or 27, but it does matter. I, I use, when I'm doing this, I or 27, but it does matter to me. When I'm doing this, I just do 27 because I would trade out of four to only give it up. But I'm going to do that trade, and then they're going to take a dunes.

I like it. All right, Cardinals here. They are on the clock. Let's draft a player. Roma dunes to the Cardinals. So they're able to move back and then kind of move back up they did it last year again obviously that uh you know current video of last year's draft room like Connor was touching on is floating around and uh yeah definitely within the range of

possibilities fits a team need and keeps them kind of pliable on this and if they were to do this I think clearly you probably want to go to seven just like protect yourself but you want to get ahead of the bears most likely and i think the titans and the falcons are in great spots to trade back into like 11 or 12 because they're probably going to get the same guy or a very similar guy that they would take at seven or eight at 11 or 12 um at the same time so makes a lot of sense carnells they did it last year i don't know if them doing it last year is creating a bias that they're going to do it again um or what but this is dunes a's elite makes total sense yeah no i like it i like keeping it uh we're kind of within the consensus but i like push back on it too because i feel like that's where we still need

to fight there's so much group think right now and like let's you're staying pliable in terms of what teams can do and i think it makes a lot of sense we this is the team we touched on last week doing this specific thing here too connor was the falcons because nothing is being mocked and we looked at vr sheet it was like almost 90 or something like that over the last like month or so it's just dallas turner edge atlanta um they mix it up do they trade back um is there another edge i was touching on it earlier like there's the it's a little early but there's the jimmy lake ties to jimmy lake was the defensive coordinator at washington when uh you know latsu latsu was there and now he's a new defensive coordinator in atlanta uh he's getting a little bit of buzz.

There's a little bit of connection there that seems early in terms of our perception, but if they have him higher on the board, it still meets the same team need. Some of that stuff is at least interesting to me, but floor is yours, Connor eight to Atlanta. Yeah. Let's let's roll with Latu. Also we have a Clemson Jeff, you know, our local reporter used to be like I found, I did some more digging on who he is. Cause he's obviously trying to remain anonymous, but whatever. Uh, he was, he used to be a radio guy apparently. Um, and so I think he

has some, some plugs, um, you know, Miko swears by him. So, uh, this is wrong and I blame, blame Miko, but he said that the Falcons have Latu first on their board ahead of Dallas Turner. And then it would be like Latu, Turner, and then verse or something like that. And then maybe a corner. He said that they're also in the market to trade back. So again, I mean, I know it's, I'm not sure I'll have him in my final mock here, but for this purposes, also we saw some people come out and say Latu should be edge one like today, yesterday. So, I mean, I don't think it's that crazy. There's obviously major medical concerns. He medically retired. Jimmy Lake was actually the coach to announce that he medically retired.

So it's definitely some concerns there. So let's roll a lot too for this. I don't think it makes anything too, too crazy, but, and I think is a somewhat realistic scenario. And before we get into the bears, I did talk to my guy and I'm not going to tell the live stream who the bears are looking at because there are no markets um and i'm not going to tell the live stream who the bears are looking at because there are no markets out and i'm not going to give the free people access to what i would consider very very very strong information uh so um i will release that eventually in our in our discord when there's markets but i'm not going to say anything until then i have not even told

noonan or scott who it is or anyone because um i think that there will be a great market it'll be some good up money making opportunities and darnell right was correct last year from this same source um so yeah even we're able to land that so um in the meantime i'll i guess take advantage of uh just you know pumping in something to the bears here again this is another like normal consensus pick as of late it's just been roma dunze because he's there uh but in this spot like that would be dream scenario if i was the bears to be able to stay at nine and land uh dunze and pair him with with kayla williams i think is is kind of wild i i think the bears offensive line is kind of sneaky good i think think they kind of like what they have there. So it'd be interesting to me if they were to stay at nine

or to add an offensive tackle with one of these top picks because I feel like it's a young, controllable offensive line that's pretty cheap that I think is just last year missed some time. They weren't able to really gel. And when they had everyone backing together, it was pretty good. They they kind of seemed to i don't want to say hit a home run with with braxton jones in the third round two years ago but when you have a guy that could step in as a rookie play as well as he did at left tackle you go out and draft the right tackle you kind of have that solidified don't really have other guys to slide in because you've kind of hit some other good

picks with uh jenkins and some other guys in the offensive line you spent money with davis last year early in free agency like they kind of have it built um so adding depth makes sense but using like top of the round top first round equity on a tackle i just kind of i challenge that on the bear side now maybe they have evals internally that make more sense and we'll kind of figure that out but uh i would want them to probably add some some sort of playmaker here and in this instance uh i would want to go brock bowers but they added um you know they added some free agency with uh with everett too so this is kind of a tough spot for the bears i'll kick it to the the team here anyone have any thoughts with how this board shakes out what the bears would do no one wants it

this is like kind of like the worst would do no one wants it this is like kind of like the worst case scenario for them um yeah they'd want to trade i guess i would think yeah i kind of would just like default to alt i guess um i mean it's just such a yeah i mean i i would i guess alt because he just would be there and they're just not expecting him and i mean that's my process was there at five there was an opportunity for chicago to trade up to get marvin harrison jr if they could come out with caleb williams and martin harrison jr i think bears fans would rejoice but here we are sitting at 10 trying to decide between uh you know a bunch of guys that may not make sense and i i kind of agree i think I would default to Alt. They should have had that pick anyways. If they had tanks like they should have in the next second of the season.

What the? I think it would be Alt or Turner for me. Alt-Turner because Turner's still there since he didn't go eight. I'm going to go Turner because I think that makes a lot more sense to me. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't think that offensive line is it's not not a need but i think they need depth more so than than top of the line starters um yeah i could be wrong it

could be you know just kind of where i'm at so uh all right scott's uh jets kind of a newer consensus is you know brock bowers they've obviously added some offensive line talents the defense is one of the best units in the league. They've gone ahead and added to some edge rushing talent there. Obviously, long-term solutions of the offensive line still are a need here. So a couple of good options here with Alton Bowers for the Jets. Yeah, so my thought process here actually would not go in the direction of Alt. It would actually be in the direction of Alt. It would actually be in Talese Fouaga. And the reason

being is that essentially they have Tyron Smith and they have Morgan Moses and they could put Fouaga into the guard situation. But I'm not going to go that route. I'm going to go with Bowers because the information that I have heard lately is that they do prefer to go with the offensive weapon, either Adenze or Bowers, if they are there. They think that Aaron Rodgers could get the most out of those two players. So let's go with Brock Bowers here at 10. Betting odds are interesting on this. DraftKings has offensive line and tight end, kind of flat. FanDuel, a little little bit different a little off market you can get some uh two to one to go tight end uh you're also still considering wide receiver

to be a decent option for them that is getting shorter over the last week or so it's gone from on draft kings plus four and a quarter to plus 250 which is uh you know interesting there too i guess in this scenario that would be a brian thomas selection uh which is you know i think in the cards but uh you know definitely a guy that has a fairly wide range of outcomes i feel it feels like right now with uh kind of how these are going but yeah we'll go bowers here uh 11 is the pick now for vr uh we were wondering who was gonna be the 11th pick because he made the trade, but yeah, back to the Titans. Man, what a wet dream for the Titans to keep the team down the road. Yeah, this is like dream come true. Joe Alt, run to the podium.

Alright, Connor. This is perfect. Connor gets his Broncos. The Broncos, a team of point of contention in terms of mock drafts. Where is their primary need outside of the quarterback position? Continue to talk about quarterback being. I just cannot see Sean Payton rolling up week one with Jared Stidham. No long-term developmental prospect on the roster. Yeah, it would seem like a reach to take a quarterback here. Ideally, you would love to be able to do what the Titans just did,

trade back, still get your guy. We know that doesn't always work. It's really hard to find out how far can I go back? Can I recoup a second round pick? Because I don't have one of those. A lot of stuff going on here with your Broncos, Connor, what do you want to do? Yeah, I mean, there's no shot that they move back behind their division rival who also needs a quarterback and then take a court like in hopes that their quarterback that they want is still there like that's just not going to happen so i think there's two options here uh a couple options we have himothy chalamet uh from the chat saying it'll be terry on first corner to denver uh i mean i think that's an interesting option you know i don't know him with the chalamet maybe i do i don't know but um, I don't know him with the shall may, maybe I do. I don't know. But yeah, well, I don't know. Interested to hear why he thinks that maybe down the road, but

I don't know. Let's go Bo Nix. I mean, I feel like it sounds crazy to us. I think it's crazy. I think most mocks think it's crazy, but all that matters is the opinions of Sean Payton and, you know, their front office. And like, I think that right now, if I'm their front office, I'm probably fighting Sean Payton not to take Bo Nix because taking Bo Nix, I think is going to go poorly. I mean, I know Sean Payton's a good coach that has coached similar guys who can do that. They just don't really have the infrastructure

around a guy like Bo Nix, I think, to make him successful. So again, if I was the front office, I'd be pushing back on it, but I don't think it's that crazy. I mean, the Broncos are, what do we say? Minus 160 to take quarterback, minus 150 to take quarterback in the first round, which seems way too aggressive considering it basically has to be Bo Nix or they have to trade in. So I don't know. I think that Nix here is fine for the purpose of the mock.

And if they don't go that way, I think the correct approach would either be to trade down or to take Brian Thomas or a corner. I think all of those options make sense. I agree. Scott, you were here early. I think even your first mock had Bo Nix to the Denver. And I remember looking at VR's sheet at the time and being like, well,

I think you're going to be first on this one. I didn't disagree with your process. And I feel like I couldn't agree more with all the things that Connor said. It was kind of the spot where I think we wanted to slow down and maybe expand a little bit. So I want to get both of your guys' thoughts on this too. Scott, you can go first. Yeah, so the thought process specifically that I have is from a fit standpoint.

And I don't think that there's really much out there from a trade standpoint, from a free agency standpoint. There's really no other way for Denver to address the quarterback situation. There is, you know, you start to look, Michael Penix has gotten some, you know, some, a little bit of, of, you know, rise lately. I would say I don't necessarily agree with it. I think, you know, while Michael Penix has a great arm and you look at the game specifically against Michigan, and Michigan just said, screw it, we're going to take away the deep, and you're going to have to consistently be accurate through the short and middle of the field and make the right

decisions consistently. He hasn't done that. There are injury issues that they have. While some people say that his medicals checked out, he ran a great 40 time. I don't think any of that fits into what Sean Payton wants to do. I think from an offensive coordinator, play caller, head coach standpoint, Sean Payton wants somebody that's going to go out there and run his plays and make the decisions that he trains them to do within the process of his offense. Bo Nix is a guy that fits that. His decision-making, his accuracy, and that's one of the shortcomings he's had throughout the draft process is his inability to really take a deep

shot. And so you have to wonder how he operated within the Oregon offense, but he did so at a high level. And I think that's one of the things that you're going to have and one of the things that he's going to fit there with a Sean Payton type of offense. The issue is that he is being highly overdrafted here at 12. But what is the option for a Denver team that doesn't have a lot of draft assets to move up? I would think that they're going to be on the outside looking in for any of those other guys with Minnesota in the driver's seat to move up. So it's one of those situations. My latest mock draft, I had them trading back in with future picks to pick 31 there with San Francisco to take Bo Nix. I've heard some rumblings that they're possibly looking at trying

to get a combination of a wide receiver and a quarterback there with the first couple of picks that they have. It's viable. I don't agree with it from a team building standpoint but i could definitely see bo nicks going here at 12 vr what do you got here yeah i mean i don't think trading back is totally out of the question where like next to the broncos, strong with fit. And just Panics to the Raiders feels strong with fit for them. So I guess I know that the Raiders really are the only team, other team that is desperate for a QB. And I'm not so sure that the Raiders would take Knicks over Panics. And if they do trade back for a team that is lacking assets,

that would love some more. i don't see a lot of risk trading back and you still probably are going to get nicks um unless for i think like i don't see a lot of scenarios where nicks is going to go if he doesn't go to the broncos um and yeah i truly don't believe in trading back or letting your franchise quarterback fall to you. I think if you don't have a top five pick, you go get it, go get your franchise quarterback. You trade up.

Um, exhibit a was the Patriots letting Mac Jones fall to them after they traded back a couple of spots. And I mean, it's a great argument now because he was asked, but if he's your franchise qb you either go get him or you have a top five pick you don't just hope he falls or trade back and hope he falls so that would be my i guess my belief against it but like if nicks doesn't go i don't think i think

you everything you hear is the raiders like panics like i think he was there yesterday um so like nicks to the broncos, Penix to the Raiders are the trendy spots. And if the Broncos don't take Knicks at 12, I don't see that big of a risk losing out on them to the Raiders. And I don't know who else would take Knicks before them if they were to trade back in or hope he falls to them in the 20s or whatever it would be. Can we talk about real quick the Michael Penix bag pumping that is going on right now too? I mean, this is the most ridiculous water carrying that I've seen in my life.

I mean, the Raiders, I think, have legitimate interest. I buy that. But all the reports from Jordan Schultz is just like literally carrying this agent's water and Michael Penix's water. I mean, it's very clear. This started early. It's like Michael Penix locked in first I mean, it's very clear. Like, it started early. It's like, you know, Michael Penix, locked in first-round pick. Medicals are clean.

He's 24 years old, guys, with multiple torn ACLs and didn't really play all that well in certain times throughout his college career. Like, these are things that are like, it just doesn't pass the smell test at all. I mean, we are, we're stuck in a loop. Like, this same thing was Hendon Hooker last year. Oh, 100%. Old-ass QB. Yeah.

Has ACL tears. It's literally Penix. Oh, 100%. Old-ass QB. Yeah. Has ACL tears. Is literally Penix. Like, it's a photocopy situation. Yeah. So, could they take him at 13? Maybe. I think he's more likely to be, like, a second, like, mid-to-late second rounder than a first rounder. So, I don't know.

I'm just not buying that hype at all. I am buying the Bo Nix hype, but not Penix at all. I don't buy it. But. Yeah. I get it. that hype at all i am buying the bonus type but not not panics at all i don't buy it but yeah i i get like i just there's so much nuance into landing a quarterback especially in the process of what we're trying to do we're trying to make bets around it we're trying to mock it out the nuances around having denver address the quarterback position which i think we all agree is has to be a priority for them especially sean payton news you know any anyone that's that great at their job historic like you just have a lot of ego quarterback whisperer just really convenient you had you know drew

breeze for a long time and you get dubbed the quarterback whisperer uh let's see what he could do with bo nicks he sure as hell is going to be put to the test with the whispering uh it might be quarterback screamer uh if you kind of bank your future on bo nicks being your signal caller in the division with pat mahomes but like i'm going to put bo nicks here in the draft in the mock that we're doing uh because i think it makes a ton of sense and uh whether we like it or not i think it is uh increasingly likely and again i think they're going to try to throw the bag at arizona at four they want to get in the mix there i think they're going to drive that price up. They don't have a second.

I think they'll do, they'll go full Rams, less need, pump future picks to try to get their guy to get, you know, JJ if he's there at four. I think they're going to go ahead and make that, you know, make that call there too. So for now we'll do Bo Nix. The Raiders are up. We kind of touched on the Raiders here as well.

I think that's a very interesting team and an increasingly difficult team to mock because there are numerous needs there. Interior defensive line is noted here, probably less of a need. Now that they added Christian Wilkins, I don't think that they do anything here with that position, but cornerback definitely a need. They're not going linebacker this early, but quarterback still is in play very much here as well. Connor, you went Bo Nix. Scott, I'm going to kick it to you for the Raiders. What do you want to do here?

Technically, it's your pick. But look, the guy that I think makes a lot of sense here for the Raiders is Talese Fuaga. Specifically, they need right tackle help. I think they're doing well on defense with the way they've added some pieces, specifically Christian Wilkins to go with Max Crosby. The other two players that I would consider here are there at cornerback, whether it be Terry and Arnold or

Quinion Mitchell. I think the smart play, especially with the situation their quarterback situation is, whether they do decide to go ahead and pull the trigger on Pennix in the next few rounds, I think Fouag is a really good fit here for the Raiders at 13. Yeah, the corners are very interesting too. VR, any thoughts on the Raiders? Yeah, I mean, Mitchell's kind of the consensus right now for the Raiders

and not buying the Pennix. Yeah, if I'm making a mock right now myself, I'm kind of just defaulting to offensive line where Fuaga is the strong number two, in my opinion, to all. So it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, don't hate that at all. Tough team. Tough team a lot of sense. Yeah, don't hate that at all. Tough team. Tough team to kind of peg.

Maybe we'll get more information there in the coming days. The Saints are a massive favorite. We talked about it last week, even one of those scenarios where, yeah, it got steamed out after the Ramchak news. Seemed like that they were going to be an offensive line team to begin with, but might be one of those spots where, and even with what we know, it does maybe still make sense to lay a offensive line team to begin with and but might be one of those spots where and even with what we know it does maybe still make sense to to lay a little bit here because offensive line feels like a absolute layup here vr uh let you get your choice of of tackling okay i'll take i'll

take a lot i'll take i'll take saints we'll uh it's i mean you gotta be fashanu right fashanu i think makes the most sense. Why did you have to scroll down from him? It's ridiculous. He's further down on their list. We're doing it different. This is definitely opinion-based on the PFF side. No hate there.

The guy at the top of our list here is a borderline first-round, picking a lot of mock drafts that are coming out right now but that's you know that's okay uh all right vr you on the colts uh here we are i mean it's chris ballard goes raz heavy typically um and some good athletes still in some team needs specifically too yeah i'm gonna go brian thomas um which he i his, I mean, his rest is definitely qualifies. It's like, I think it's a 9.8, which definitely costs need Brian Thomas. I won't be shocked if he goes earlier than this. Remember Scott bringing him up a couple of shows ago, thinking that he's going to go a lot earlier than a lot of projected mocks have him and 15 almost

feels like the latest he'll go i don't see him getting past the colts here rass need i think his stock is going to only go up um it just feels like the sweet spot for the colts i guess you could either go like thomas or maybe mitchell mitch. Mitchell falling to 15, I think, would be a surprise as well. But for me, I'm just going to take borderline elite Brian Thomas, where taking an elite first-round grade wide receiver feels like a lot better of a bet than taking Mitchell who is I would love to know if the Colts ever take non-power five draft picks which we could probably check out on that club sheet but yeah Brian Thomas slam dunk for me that's why I wanted it I like it uh Connor any thoughts um I think he could be a candidate for, like,

if the Cardinals do trade back to 11, 12, 13. I think that if all the other three receivers are off the board, that the Cardinals could easily go with Brian Thomas or an offensive lineman there. So that could make sense. But, yeah, I think it would be a really tough decision for the Colts here at 15 if both Brian Thomas and Mitchell were on the board because they both are, like,

I mean, 10 out of 10 on, like like what I think we consider Chris Ballard to want and both needs in some sense. So, yeah, I think it's good. And the price on the Colts too is interesting. Yeah, and I think wide receiver for the Colts is like plus 200. Plus 260, yeah. 260, yeah. And, I mean, if the Cardinals, if we didn't do that trade with the Cardinals

and they were sitting at 11, I probably would have gone Brian Thomas with Turner going to the Bears at 9. I would have gone Brian Thomas at 11, which would have been an easy layup with Mitchell falling to 15 with his pick now. Yeah, I like it. I think it's definitely in play. You know, got to take the lid off. Alec Pierce is not that guy.

The way that they used Pittman last year, Josh Downs, like having a field stretcher with the elite skills of Brian Thomas, I think make a ton of sense there too. Obviously DB makes a ton of sense and has been popular there too. Connor, Seattle 16, another interesting team. Team maybe doesn't get on board with some of the historical trends in terms of athleticism in terms of like they'll go not like full belichick but they'll go definitely off the board a little bit and i think everyone was caught off guard last

year with you know what they did even in the first round with going with devin witherspoon which i thought was an interesting pick, but obviously a dog. But what do you think here with Seattle? Yeah, they do whatever they want. And so it makes me skeptical to lay the minus 150 on offensive linemen for them. But, I mean, according to VR's mocks, we have 77% of people picking offensive linemen for the Seahawks here. So I think that I'd probably go like Fatanu, but I think that that makes sense.

But, you know, like I've seen people mock Jackson Powers Johnson. He's reportedly falling. So like, I don't really think that at this point, like he's really much like very much in play. So I think Troy is a little bit better there in this spot. So that's what I go with. But I mean, Byron Murphy, like, that would not surprise me at all to, like, take someone like Byron Murphy.

Like, he, to me, is almost like a Devin Witherspoon-esque, like, good player that fits a need, but, like, no one's really talking about the fit right now. It just could be a good draft pick for them. Fatano is, like, probably – and it brings me back to last year as well. Like, Fatano is, is like an incredible consensus right now and i know it has to do with like the washington coach connection to like the seahawks yeah old line coach was with washington or whatever and like i mean every single mock is fatano at 16

and it reminds me the steelers last year which i think the steelers had 16 as well with joey porter with the connection with his dad to the Steelers. Joey Porter was just an auto mock at 16. And I'm not saying they're the same player. They are not. It is apples to oranges. But just when you get such strong consensuses in the mocks in this range, it gets a little scary because when it doesn't happen,

the dominoes really fall um so yeah i mean i don't i like it the interesting one it would be really bizarre in the way that this mock has fallen out because we still have both top corners on the board here last year or right now um they kind of they had trouble last year and again new coaching staff you know like reek woolen who was kind of like the bell of the ball late round pick the year before really had trouble staying on the field last year they had some struggles there um mixing in guys they've kind of revamped their secondary uh you know at safety ray sean jenkins came over from jacksonville they brought in Kayvon Wallace, who floated around with the Eagles in Tennessee last year.

They still have Julian Love, another confirmed absolute dog in the back half too. But you do have that thought of like, I've seen this discussed and I forget where, and I had been thinking about it and it made more sense. You have Mike McDonald coming over and really was able to take that Baltimore defense last year to a new place with the way they kind of used, just in a really weird way, I think would be very interesting to Mike McDonald. Can you take him as the first corner off the board when you're going to use him in like a

hybrid slot safety kind of role? I'm not sure. Are you taking him ahead of Arnold or Mitchell? I'm not sure. But that team fit and player fit scheme-wise makes a ton of sense to me, but not something I want to do here, but just something that i'm i want to watch and see if there's any visits going on there kind of how uh the jeans individual pro day goes because obviously he's been dealing with some injuries and hasn't been uh testing so we'll do uh offensive line here to the uh the seahawks um i'll take jacksville for us jacksville i think is a layup for a uh cornerback you can make the case they go elsewhere uh but in this spot i think they were able to stay home and take corner i'll give them quinnion mitchell uh again we know traits tread bulky you know arm

length raz all that stuff has popped up for us obviously the last couple years with him being in jacksville and uh m and Mitchell falls there nicely to them. All right. Where are we at? Who's at 18? I missed because I went out of order. Connor, I'll give you 18 to the Bengals. OK, let's see here. Bengals. I think that probably I would be like Byron Murphy or another offensive lineman here. I don't really remember who we have on the board offensive line-wise, but I do think that Byron Murphy makes a lot of sense. He made a great case last week about how they lost DJ Reeder.

Maybe they get a guy like Byron Murphy in there. I know that he's a popular pick to the Rams, but they need some help on the defensive front. So I think that D-line or maybe I think J.C. Latham was a popular pick, too, because he can play on the offensive line as well. I don't know. Scott, does that line up with what you were thinking as well? Yeah, J.C. Latham would have been a pick that I would have put here specifically the right tackle issue. You know, we don't know if Trent Brown's going to be the guy or not. And, you know, with that offense and specifically when it comes to protecting Burrow, I think Latham would be the pick that would make the most sense. Amarius Mims would be the other consideration. I think Mims is a little bit more set for a right

tackle where Latham could probably kick in the guard if they needed to and wanted to run Trent Brown at right tackle. So I think Latham holds a little bit more weight here, but the other person that I did have in consideration is Byron Murphy. I like the Murphy stuff. I talked about it, as Connor mentioned, and I think right now the odds there are interesting. Comparatively, obviously, we're kind of a massive favorite for first position to be offensive line.

DraftKings is minus 200, FanDuel minus 160. But if you go defensive line, you can get a really nice number at 430 on FanDuel, a little bit shorter on DraftKings. Again, like BJ Hill's in the last year, his deal, DJ Reader is gone, and they were an absolute sieve in the interior defensive line last year. And Murphy's a fun, fun talent. Now talent now again in that you're making that play you can obviously add offensive line later hope that Trent Brown can be pieced together and can solidify the you know right tackle spot tough to do so if I'm betting at this right now I think

it's closer to not necessarily even but I don't think that it should be four to one or more for interior defensive line to the Bengals considering the needs there. So I will go Latham here for the sake of the mock though. I think it makes a ton of sense too. Definitely worth looking at. And again, another place to maybe drill into a little bit more detail. All right, VR.

No, we'll go to Scott. Scott, the Rams 19. Tough team. We have not a ton of historical trends. They don't make a lot of first-round picks. The first one since 2016 here. What do you think the Rams did with 19? Yeah, so you have the retirement of first-ballot Hall of Famer,

you know, sitting there with Aaron Donald leaving. And so Byron Murphy has been the pick that makes the most sense. I think if Byron Murphy does go earlier than this, I think you start looking at some of the defensive ends, whether it be a Jared versus fallen in this situation or, you know, lots, who's another guy that I think could fit in here. Somebody to be on the other side of Byron Murphy, who they got in. Excuse me, not Byron Murphy, but there's a guy I'm thinking of,

Byron Young, excuse me, who they got last year in the third round. So I think they would go ahead and want to fill the shoes of Aaron Donald. Byron Murphy has been mentioned as possibly being the top defensive pick in the draft. There's some outside money there for him to be the first defensive player off the board. It just makes too much sense here with Aaron Donald being gone. They have a big gap that they need to fill in the center of that defensive line next to Kobe Turner. So I would go with Byron Murphy here. Yeah, I like quite a bit. We were hoping to get through 10, I mean, through 20. It looks like we're going to do that kind of right on the dot here, VR. Real quick, I just want to see what we did something a little bit off the board we went a lot to first defensive

player off the board i just want to see pricing wise uh 701 on draft kings and nine to one on fanduel for a lot to be first defensive player off the board which i think is uh all right. We wrap it up here. Steelers 20 VR. I think offensive line makes a ton of sense. It feels like their top two needs are tackle and interior offensive line. So, you know, you can make a case that they can go elsewhere. There's some,

you know, corners that I think are here. I mean, Arnold's is falling in our mock here as well. A couple of the edge rushers as well, but what are your thoughts with the Steelers to take us home? so the Steelers are probably out of all the teams they tip their hand the most with their meetings and right now based off of their 30 meetings and who they've had in so far the only guy of the offensive lineman in this range that they've had a meeting with so far

is Mims and I will take that and i will go with mims because there's no reason to think otherwise if the draft is today he's the only guy that he met with and he is most likely going to be their pick because it's how it's played out every single year they meet with the guys that they draft and right now he's the only guy in that range that they've taken um and like i honestly feel like the confidence that they've taken. And, like, I honestly feel, like, the confidence that I have in them tipping their hand, where if it was, like, Mims and Latham still on the board, or even, like, any of the other guys outside of maybe Alt,

like, I still think they would take Mims over the other guys because of, historically, how they've tipped their hand, just based off of who they've met with. Assuming that Mims was the only guy that they had met with to they with the draft being let's say hypothetically today um so i'll go with mims i mean the steelers have like the most elite high school first off the bus uh bookend tackles i mean it doesn't matter in the nfl as much because these guys are all massive like you know you go You take that road game and you throw those first two massive human beings, Roderick Jones, Amarius Mims, off the bus first,

just to scare the shit out of the other team. These are massive human beings, bookend tackles for the Steelers. I'm sure they'd be hoping for years to come. As VR said, we typically, at least the last handful of years, it feels like you know who the Steelers are taking. Maybe it changes with Omar Khan. It didn't necessarily last year. It felt like we kind of had a little bit of that information.

So maybe it still kind of is the same thing. So we made it to the top 20 right on time. And I know like receivers in need for them. And I just looking at like who they've met with so far, they met with a bunch of like receivers so far that are probably like early second second rounders where they met with malachi corley who like just feels like he was born to be like he's like the non-power five receiver that they hit on every single time whether it's like dionte or who's another guy that they took recently but either way um if they draft a receiver, he's going to be good. I've looked into how they do it.

It's just insane. Crazy. I do feel pretty strong with them taking a receiver. If they've looked at Corley, Leggett, someone else, yeah, either way. Receiver feels like second-round play for them. Pierce Hall feels like a potential stealer pick there too. Jeff gets it. He knows that, you know, Connor would be last off the bus

carrying the water bottles for the team. You know, like everyone plays a role, Connor. That's okay. Yeah, I mean, at one point I was the last guy off the bus, you know, carrying the water bottles for the team. It's called being a freshman, you know, at one point I was the last guy off the bus, you know, carrying the water bottles to the team. It's called being a freshman, you know, on a team. So, you know, it's everyone's role at some point. And if it wasn't, then your team probably sucked.

All right, that was good. That was a good process. I mean, I think we had some good dialogue and, again, some interesting names still on the board. But, you know, I think it's pushing back on some of the consensus, not just to do it but also just to try to think about how these things transpire because we're such a domino situation right you pull one piece out and we kind of even saw at nine with the bears when things fall

a little bit different all of a sudden it's like well well now what right there's a just a trickle down effect to one pick going a little bit different i think making sure that your shopping odds is these kind of you know can be manipulated very easy with very little action over the next couple of weeks as we start to get a little bit more stuff making sure that you're right now looking at possible options where you can take some nice plus money on some scenarios that are actually well within the reach and i think the bangles for instance i think in this discussion today, going off the board from an offensive lineman standpoint, probably is something that should be discussed.

Same thing with, you know, we didn't get to the pick, but we touched on the Cowboys and linebacker in some of those scenarios too. So we'll continue to do that too. Some good questions around how to get some possible discounts, show notes there. Again, stay tuned here in the coming days. We'll have some more information as we kind of get closer. Three weeks away, guys.

It feels like corner and edge are the two positions that, if they do fall, they're going to. If Turner doesn't go to the Falcons, slotting him, he's going to push everyone else. Or Latu not going going let's just say lots who doesn't go to the falcons like those guys can fall into the 20s in the corner as well like we just saw like mitchell falling because guys like turner are kind of pushing everyone back like those are the two position that can fall but at the same time like i think

o-line is just like locked in um I don't think they're going to fall. And then the, we got hung up on it today to Broncos Raiders. You throw a quarterback in there, right? That shifts kind of the math, right? And then same thing.

If they end up going, say corner and offensive lineman and whatever order, the calculus changes with how that trickles down to. So some of the kind of, I think key pivot points right now with where we're at for three weeks out. So, all right. Hit the thumbs up on the 444Bets YouTube channel and subscribe before you take off.

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