Move The Line - 2025 NFL Best Bets! | NFC North Preview

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

Discover the smartest bets for the NFC North in the upcoming NFL season! In this video, we break down the latest odds and expert predictions to help you make informed choices on where to put your money. From division winners to individual player performances, we've got you covered with insightful analysis and top betting tips. Whether you're a seasoned bettor or just getting started, join us as we navigate through the competitive landscape of the NFC North and highlight the best bets to consider. Don't miss out on maximizing your potential winnings—watch now and place your bets wisely! Subscribe to 4for4's Betting Package 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/plans  Sign-up on FanDuel Today 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/go/fanduel  Follow 4for4 on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4football Follow 4for4 Bets on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4bets Follow Move the Line on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/MoveTheLineNFL  Follow Connor on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/ConnorAllenNFL Follow Ryan on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/RyNoonan  Visit our Website 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/ Join our Discord 👉🏼 http://discord.gg/4for4 Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3OupraJ  4for4 Betting Strategy Hub 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3hm39cw 4for4 Betting Picks 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3LUp0Ea  NFL Betting Odds & Predictions 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3nsW9QU 

Hello and welcome to Move the Line presented by 444.com. Reminder that the betting subscription at 444 is the only resource you need for a profitable NFL season. If you're looking to play fantasy, best ball or just bet on any sport or market, 444.com is where you need to be this season. We are coming up on full draft season. I know the best ball bros have been in the streets since February, you know, for home leagues

and all that stuff, you know, August 1st, kind of the line of demarcation for us. And then there's almost here, really excited for that. I'm Ryan Noonan, excited to be continuing our divisional preview series, shifting to the NFC. Joined here as always by Connor Allen. What's going on my friend? Yeah, not a whole lot. It's, there's a lot of injuries going on. There's a lot of things happening in camp right now.

It's an exciting time for betters and it's an exciting time for people playing fantasy. Like, uh, I think this is actually the time to get the biggest edge cause there's so many different things happening in camp and like different reports that if you know what to pay attention to like there's a lot of stuff shifting behind the scenes I don't think that everyone's even really aware of. Yeah expand on that a little bit I mean you've been you've fired some some season-long props whether it's you know props or some futures mixing in a little bit you know what's kind of your process in terms of like filtering through noise. I mean, this is the noisiest time of the year, right? Like just these

clips of look at this guy breakthrough, you know, get into space. He's literally going like the defenders aren't allowed to tackle or you see like these wide receivers going one on one with the entirety of the field against the middle linebacker in like coverage. It's like, Oh, look at this guy. It's going to be such a weapon in the passing game this year. Like how do you filter out, uh, what is signal? What is noise? Yeah. Like the, the CMC clip burning, like the third string linebacker, like, yeah, he's not burning the third string linebacker, man. Like he's completely cooked. Um, but third string linebacker when yesterday, I think like, I don't know,

it was just like, what are we, what are we doing? Yeah. So I think like camp clips don't matter at all. I think that just in general highlights don't really matter that much. But what matters is who's playing with the first team and like overall bodies of work. Like if a B writer is like, yeah, like, so like Jacory Krosky Merritt from the commanders right now, he's like a seventh round pick, but the commanders, so like, jacory cross key merit from the commanders right now, he's like a seventh round pick, but the commanders, you know, I think wanted to running back in the draft

didn't get one early. Like they've talked about wanting to pass, like catch the ball more out of the backfield. He can do that. And he's just been like, it's been like constant steam for like weeks now, like, he's been looking really good and he played with the first team in a no huddle offense already. So like, that's like something that I'm taking note of nothing actionable yet, but taking note of, and then So like that's like something that I'm taking note of nothing actionable yet, but taking note of, and then another, you know, example that I think is interesting is like, you know, Joe Mixon likely to miss some significant amounts of time.

We're pretty convinced that he's like, I'm pretty sure that he might not play for a long time. And so I'm pretty in on Woody Marks, uh, pass catcher and maybe Nick Chubb, but again, the quotes out of camp and Nick Chubb, I don't know if you saw the quote from his coach. They were tough. Yeah, it was tough. If they're talking about how you, you know, your injuries added up and you're old and

like you just love football, that's not exactly a very good compliment. Uh, that's a little bit past his prime. I mean, he averaged 3.3 yards per carry and had another season in the injury last year. So, I think this might be over. That's painful. It might be over for Mixon though. I agree. I mean, multiple foot injuries, that's, you know, there's a lot of wear and tear on him. That's, that's troubling, you know, for for folks, obviously, it's not something we could take advantage of in the betting markets. But again, kind of another one of our move the line curse situations where we get done doing the show. And then there's some pretty big breaking news within the conference after we get done. So buckle up NFC North because something's going down here. AFC Westwood sideways after we got done record, we were I don't even know it was up yet. We literally

just logged off. And it was like, we're like, we're she Rice News. And we had something else to like, Christian Wilkins, we had like, there's more stuff. So I don't see nor today. kind of lookout. So yeah, I'm I am fascinated because I think we I think we think alike a lot of like, we come at it from different vantage points. And I think we think a lot alike. We come at it from different vantage points. And I think we like to attack the market in different ways. So I always like to get kind of just your thoughts about how you're going about it this

time of year. Because we've been doing this together for a long time. Proof is in the pudding. We both have had a lot of success in futures and preseason stuff. We just do it very differently. And I think you've even shifted more dramatically. Like I'm terrified, Connor. If I have a couple of like season long overs that I like,

I didn't want to post them. I just want to let them, I don't even want to tell you about them. Yeah, cause I'm just going to give you hell about it. I, we were given one of our other guys who, Hunter who played like six season long overs last year. And he, I think he won like, he went like four and two or someone

I had a pretty good year on him, but I was like, yeah, you almost gave me a coronary out there to be fair I think tackles are different. I think that's just like a whole different ballgame like sure Yeah, it's like a much bigger edge with like, you know tackle props like it overall So I think that that makes sense, but just like season long overs are real tough I prefer to play all it's one that you know I think is like crazy undervalued again right now along the lines like the Woody Marx rookie of the year is 150 to 1 That's pretty interesting to me if he's gonna play a pretty good big role there. So like I don't play alts if they do smash you're getting good range of outcomes there if you know if

If they do smash, you're getting a good range of outcomes there. If, you know, if things go poorly, like you wick or just don't go awesome, which it has to do for you to win it over, then it's just going to go under. So I got some more unders cooking. Actually, I got two more that I was going to release today. Probably one after the show because one's in the NFC North. I just finished my full season long, full roster tackle and sack projections. There are no tackle numbers in the market right now. There are sacks, but it's just on a couple of books,

I really want those to become more widely available because I think there are a handful of both overs and unders on both sides for us to attack. So yes, for sure. And that's kind of how we split it last year, too. But I did not go into the level of detail that I did this year and feel really good about the process and some of the numbers and yeah, excited for that. So four four dot com slash plans is where you want to be that is going to get you the betting some really exciting news coming very shortly on some

of the extended offerings that we'll have this season as well. So check that out for four bets on the YouTube channel, move the line, where we listen to podcasts, come back next week. We'll have more to share on, uh, kind of what the four four sub is going to look like this year, and we could not be more excited to share that with you. So, um, yeah, all, all good things. Just again, no matter what you're doing on the football speculation side, the betting sub is going to cover that and all that we have at 4x4. So check that out, reach

out if you have any questions. Again, 4x4.com slash plans. NFC, we're going to start with the North, a fantastic division. It was last season. This was the highest winning percentage for a division in league history. None of them won a playoff game, but again, I think we could see another scenario where we have three playoff teams. It is a loaded, loaded division. We'll start with the Lions coming off of a 15-win season. They are 11-1 to win the Super Bowl, plus 5-50 to win the conference, plus 1-55 to win the conference, plus 155 to win the North in their win total. 10 and a half is juiced slightly to the under. He turned the ball over a bunch of the playoffs,

and we got ourselves one of the biggest playoff surprises in a number of years with Washington going into Detroit there and winning. Winning a lot of games, Connor comes at a cost. They lost both coordinators. Finally, they took head coaching jobs. It's kind of been rumored for a lot of games. Connor comes at a cost. They lost both coordinators. Finally, they took head coaching jobs. It's kind of been rumored for a handful of years. I think the Ben Johnson one in particular is painful because none of the, you lose him with a defensive minded head coach, but he stayed in the division was

obviously get to that shortly, but incredibly talented roster. Natural regression here though. Obviously after you win so many games and get your coordinators pouched. What do you think here on the lions? Yeah, I think there's a couple of factors here that make me a little bit nervous in the lions. And I think that some of the wind total and stuff here is hanging on to a lot of what we saw last year. So, I mean, we're looking at,

obviously the coordinators changed. Like you mentioned, uh, Amon Rossi Brown had a little off season, you know, cleanup, it seems like, and he's, uh, you know, still not ready. I'm, you know, he you mentioned. Amin Ras, St. Brown had a little off season clean up, it seems like, and he's still not ready. He's a vet, but I think that Jameson Williams can easily take a step forward, but again, that's another kind of dissenting issue there. David Montgomery also, I think, had an off season injury as well,

and he's like, I think Jimmy McGivis is gonna play a bigger role, again, all good things. But my biggest thing like the offensive coordinator situation So instead of internally promoting a guy which I don't even know if that anyone left after Aaron Glenn took Tanner Engstrand to to the Jets with him and then You know, I and then the Lions hired John Morton from the Broncos seems like he has some stints with Sean Payton at the Saints. I work with Harbaugh. Like, I don't know what it's going to look like, but it's hard for me to think

that it's going to look exactly like what Ben Johnson was doing, even if he wants it to, like I just, he wasn't in the building, he wasn't involved in that. And we've seen Jared golf be a, some of his parts quarterback, his entire career, like with Jeff Fisher and nothing around him, he was awful with, you know, Sean McVeigh and stuff around him. He was awesome. Comes to Detroit. He stinks because he has nothing around him in an Anthony Lynn offense. And I think actually John Morton was in the building for that, uh, that season, if I remember correctly. And then, uh, you know,

and then obviously Ben Johnson comes over, they add more weapons. They had the offensive line becomes way better and now he's really good again. Or he's like, you know, above average, I would say. And so I worry that like if everything's not perfect for Jared golf that this offense is like sneaky downside in some sense there or it's just not quite doesn't reach the levels that we saw With Ben Johnson and then defensively you can probably speak more on it, too But I think Aaron Glenn made a lot out of by the end of the year They said no one left

So they were blitzing like every play and then it finally it took said no one left so they were blitzing like every play and then it finally it took Jayden Daniels just to like rip them basically extended time rip them down field and that led to the nfc game that caused a lot of problems for them, so I think under 10 and a half wins is interesting I have a lot of questions here about both sides of the ball in the schedule at Baltimore at Kansas City at Washington at Philly at the rams that's outside the division that's not even in the division Those are like outside the division games that are like really tough playoff teams basically so I don't know it's gonna be tough season yeah from a conference level they're playing the NFC East and AFC North so the north person north

makes it pretty tricky and then you know Lions unique three is pretty tough I mean can't at Kansas City at the Rams home to Tampa, uh, which is, you know, tougher than, and obviously some of their peers here too. So yeah, the John Morton thing is interesting. I mean, he's been around for a while. We had one instance of him being an OC back with the jets in 2017, uh, Insane roster went back and Michael was like, what was that roster? Who was hiring? I don't even know. It was Josh McCown quarterback season with Robbie Anderson is the basically only pass catching weapon and Bilal Powell at running back.

So it's hard to extrapolate anything from what we could expect from John Morton. But yeah, I guess I completely blacked out that that was, that was a thing that happened in the last decade that we had about full season of Josh McCown in New York with the Jets and Robbie Anderson. So yeah, not not great So I'm with you. My I think my bigger My concern here just in terms of not knowing them what we don't know about John Morton is the offensive line There's arguably the best in the league Or at least top three, especially the last couple seasons. You lose Frank Ragnar, he retires, you know, one of the best centers

in the league. Ikeman Zeitler took the bag with the Titans. Taylor Decker left tackle on pop off season shoulder surgery. So we don't necessarily have a timeline yet there. So it's just a lot of like, I don't know, just a lot of downside. Like it's the core of what we're talking about, like propping goth up behind an insane offensive line with great weapons and arguably one of the best talent maximizers and play callers in the league. Talent's still really good. Offensive line seems to have taken a step back and then we don't know what the

coordinator is. So there is, I think more volatility here. Defensively, they did stay in house. Uh, linebacker coach, Calvin Shepard to DC. Aiden Hutchinson is the big news though, defensively. And he was in, I think, I don't see a runaway defensive player of the year situation going on, but a team that won 15 games and he was going to have. North of 15 stacks and probably some big plays like he was kind of having an insane season. He's back. I don't think there's any concern. Like there were talk last year that

if they were to make it to the Super Bowl that he was going to be ready to go. So we've had the whole off season for him to be back and he looks to be the part so far what we've seen in camp. So I'm not worried about him at all. But you know, what do we what do we see? How much is he going to kind of carry over in terms of like you said, some of the aggressiveness, some of the man tendencies that we saw some unknowns there as well. So I think they're kind of getting, you know, middle of the pack, you know, just with Hutchinson back, I think they

could be just better, just keeping him upright. So I'm with you. I'm I don't know, I'm not dying to bet under 10 and a half, but also definitely not interested in over on the 10 and a half either. I mean, you're going to be sweating every single game. Like it's like, just crazy how like every game is tough because like in their division we'll get to it. But like, I think all of these teams are legit playoff teams. Yeah. And some of them Superbowl contenders and maybe all of them Superbowl contenders, if they, you know, hit their ceiling outcomes this year, which I think is, you know, again, very possible here.

But like, I don't think they're, yeah, they're more than seven point favorites once all season. That's against the Giants. I mean, I guess, Browns too. So twice all season. Like, that's not a team that I want to bet, you know, against, bet they over on their win total because it's like again every game is going to be close they have to win close tough games the entire year so any let's see here any snow games here down the road week 18 potentially at Chicago that's probably it you know who knows if golf even plays in that depending where they're at but you know again that's another we got another good little snow narrative there. Love my baby hand golf You know late season narrative that is it's not like you had to bet it every year, but it you know works out if it's cold enough Yeah, that was the turn the punch bowl for his MVP case last year

What doesn't seem like it'll matter here? You never know I mean bears viable week 18 can matter We think this division is kind of you know know, I don't know, just kind of regressing to the mean on both ends. You know, we think we kind of think that's what's happening here. There's, yeah, there's just not a lot of layups in the schedule, to your point, like the Browns game, the Giants game, those are both at home where you said they're north of a touchdown, but just a bunch of other games that I don't want to say coin flips, but games that can definitely lose especially if this offensive line ends up being sort of a situation. So being a part of it is just what you can do when you dictate tempo and you dictate

just in terms of the score, like what you could do offensively, you know, when you're having to be a little bit more, you know, reactionary versus kind of, uh, being able to just thump a team, it becomes a little bit different and they really haven't had that offensively, at least the last, you know, I guess a year and a half even towards the tail end of, of 23, the offense was such a, such a well-oiled machine. So yeah, just all of a sudden things can, can change in terms of where you're at from a game script standpoint. So yeah,

like the continuity defensively DJ Reed coming coming in for Kirtland Davis is kind of just like a wash. Really, they can just keep everyone upright. I think they could be better defensively because I think they were like bottom third and adjusted games loss and feel like almost all of that was on the defensive side of the ball. So there, I think the deserved favorites, but I think we both agree that they are far from what the consensus favorite in like a Super Bowl darling pick as they were last year. That doesn't mean that they're not a still Super Bowl

contender, it's just the road to hoes is much more difficult. So I don't know if it's lazy, but like it feels like one of those situations where, I don't know how it happens, but I just don't, I don't see them winning like 12, 13 games again this year. And so like again, it could be one of these teams stepping up. It could be the offensive coordinator is not panning out, could be in the offensive line not panning. Like there's seems like there's more outs than like most of the other division favorites

and most other people teams that are at 10 and a half wins. I think a lot of downside cases here that I think we laid out that, you know, it's one of those of like, okay, I don't know which one's going to play out, but probably one of them happens and they don't end up winning 12, 13 games. I mean, look, we've talked about it every episode, like more so than any other sport coaching matters here. And I do think there's something that's been built from a cultural standpoint, coaching wise in Detroit, but he wasn't involved.

He's not involved in play calling, right? Like John Morton is a, we just don't know, right? Like, yeah, he coached with Harbaugh, Carroll, Sean Payton. He's been a part of, he's been here with Ben Johnson. He's been a part of some great coaching staffs, which never know what that ends up looking like, right? The sequencing of plays, there's still great talent here, but there is significantly more variables in terms of what to expect in a situation where like calling the right play at the right time is a huge thing. And that's not necessarily something that Dan Campbell is going to be taking on now all of a sudden, right? So there's definitely just significantly more variables in Detroit. All right, Green Bay, 23rd strength of schedule. So these are all these teams have tougher than average strength of schedule. They are 22 to 1 to win the Super Bowl, widely available.

They are 11 to 1 to win the NFC. You can get the division out at plus 270. Their win total at nine and a half. It's slightly juiced to the under. Green Bay is fascinating to me. to 70, their win total at 9.5, it's slightly juiced to the under. Green Bay is fascinating to me. I think the perception of what their 2024 season was is kind of interesting. I feel like there's a little bit of a sense, and I think it's quarterback related, that

they maybe took a step backwards. And I get that, like they didn't advance as far in the playoffs as they did in 2023. I think overall they were better. I mean, they won more games. They were better from a DVO A and EPA standpoint on both sides of the ball. They had three Millie Gwilla starts mixed in there too, which I think is interesting when you even had Jordan love, he got rolled up late in week one against Philly.

I don't know that he was necessarily a hundred percent when you kind of deal with that type of injury that can linger a little bit Especially as you fight to get back on the field um They got to play better against tougher competition It was just pretty clear that when they kind of try to punch up they had problems They again they played philly to start and they lost to philly in the playoffs and then they had you know Two other games obviously in the division against detroit and minnesota. They were oh and six in those games. They

were 11-1 against the rest of their schedule. So they're kind of an interesting team to me. Youngest team in the league last year, I think they're still in line to be the youngest team in the league. Still again, another continuity spot. What are your thoughts on the Packers? Yeah, they're another interesting schedule team because so they're actually favored in 13 or 17 games this year in lookaheads and they are they are but their only favorite by a touchdown or more in one of them So again, it's another team that like yeah, that looks good But in reality they don't have many layups and they're like I view like the touchdown plus favorite is kind of like Yeah, it's not a guaranteed win

But you're significantly significantly better team like you know And that's that's where you're like counting wins before that happens also I think this Packers team might pass more like when you know Jordan love was injured I think fantasy points through this out It was like Negative eight point two percent password over exploitation with him playing or just like injured without him with him healthy plus three point six percent PR We which would have been like top ten top 8 like they also drafted Matthew Golden They still have Jayden Reed Romeo Dobbs is solid on Tavian Wicks is solid

Marshawn Lloyd just got injured in camp for like the 17th time. So I think he's just done I think soon it's over there So I think they probably still jammed Josh Jacobs, but it's not gonna be quite to the extent that we saw in previous years So yeah, I don't know. I mean, this team is, it's tough. It's one of those where it feels like they've always had potential. They've had upside and they just haven't quite hit it. And so I have a tough time betting on them necessarily. I think they're fine bet to win the division.

I think they're the second best team in this division. Again, pretty clearly in my mind, but I'm curious your thoughts that they did lose some players on defense, like how that kind of impacts things. Yeah. I mean, I think the defensively, I think they under achieved a little bit last year. They have, there was so much, when you think about what we've seen historically right back to the Rogers days, like, will they please take a first round

quarterback or like a wide receiver? Will they please invest? It was like, no, they just stacked first round talent on the defensive side of the ball. A lot of it's up front and none of it really came to fruition last year. It really is like a merger played as well. Like some of the underlying metrics on Rashad Gary are pretty good. He hasn't really fully stepped into that like alpha that they thought he was, he would be in 2019 when they drafted him. You still have, you still have Kenny Clark on the roster, first round pick. Devante Wyatt, first round pick. Lucas Van Ness, first round pick.

Quay Walker, first round pick. You have a couple like Edwin Cooper, Javon Bullard, early second round picks. They have so much young talent as drafted in the first or second round on the defensive side of the ball that they relied way too much on early down turnovers last year, they were kind of a bad from a succession or success rate against standpoint, they really were opportunistic from a defensive turnover standpoint. So that can be a little bit noisy, especially when you aren't generating a ton of pressure that can support that. But again, there's so much talent here where I think that they can really kind of come together like Edger and Cooper is a baller.

I'm excited to get a full season of Edger and Cooper here. He was awesome for them last year and linebacker. They used them as an edge rusher because they couldn't generate pressure from anyone else. I think the secondary is interesting. Nate Hobbs is in. So they really have like the ability to be super multiple and make lots of different like safety nickel decisions. So there's depth here. There's a bunch of guys that have had to play starter type reps over the last couple of years that are still on the roster. So this could be a defense that just even though they were kind of lucky in a way last year could just ascend in a way if maybe some of the talent upfront kind of comes together. So there's just a lot of upside, but again, there's so much volatility here too if they,

none of these guys move forward and maybe there's something to Jordan Love kind of spinning his tires. Yeah. And I think, well, the secondary you brought up is interesting because like, I think you are certainly higher on them than PFF, Hob Hobbs they have at 73rd out of 116 Bullard in the slot 80th out of 98 Nixon 62nd out of 116 doesn't look pretty on paper obviously you know with the whole Jair Alexander stuff it seems like a little bit like a loss but I mean are you confident that they are finding safety play looks great. So, yeah. So Hobbs, I think they're going to play Hobbs outside.

I don't feel great about that. Uh, he's done. He's big bodied, um, you know, willing to kind of mix in against the run. I don't necessarily love him as a coverage corner on the perimeter. Uh, so we'll see what happens there. I don't know that you can consider Jair Alexander a real loss because they've barely had him on the field like 30% of snaps last couple years. So, um, Nixon, I think is maybe better than that. Bullard, I think is a really interesting talent. Missed a ton of time last year. Could be a really good nickel for them, I think. So, yeah, I think that there's some upside here just based just off of, you know, pedigree in these guys kind of stepping into, you know, better roles. Second year with the coordinator. I think there's just,

everything gets easier in the backend. If all of a sudden you start to get some pass pass rush upfront, right? Devante Wyatt hasn't really been that guy. First round pick. Lucas van Ness has been even worse being, you know, basically kind of an air ball first round pick. Again, it's a lot of pressure on Gary and he continues to kind of fall short. So they still have, you know, like Kingsley that they mixed in and wooden and Brooks, all these guys that have like played a lot of snaps the

last couple of years. So there's depth here, but they kind of need a guy to be, I guess, you know, necessarily an alpha, but at least kind of, you know, lead the pack and be problematic upfront. And they just, they haven't had it yet. Yeah, that makes sense. I think that's, that is interesting. Um, I don't have any bets on the side or on the like wind total or anything here because again,

I think that they're a team that could easily take a step forward or just again, kind of live in that eight to 10 win range and just be like a somewhat contender, win a couple of games. They shouldn't lose a couple of games. They shouldn't. And then, you know, again, just kind of live in that middle range. I did play Matthew golden under seven 50. Uh, it's, it's sitting around 700 would still lean under, uh, there's some reports about Jayden Reed playing more outside. So I think that there's a chance that maybe they rotate Reed golden and daubs,

like inside two, our receiver sets. Um, they might also just play more through our receiver sets. Again, we don't know if Golden can like is good enough to earn targets. I'm a little skeptical on his rookie profile. I think Tucker Kraft probably plays a bigger role. I think Jayden Reed probably plays a bigger role this year. So I still lean Golden under just doesn't like probably just so many mouths to feed and like I don't we have no idea if he's any good. I'm pretty confident that Jayden Reed and you know, Kraft are good. So, lean under there, but nothing else too much, I don't think, on this team. They're almost like our topic at the top.

I think there's such a wide array of outcomes here. Like I would, I think you're bullish on Green Bay. I understand why someone would be bullish on Green Bay. I would swing for a division win, you know, almost three to one or even an NFC, right? Because I think we think that that's in the range of outcomes versus kind of attacking the binary nine and a half win total or something like that, because everything clicks here. They're legit. And this team was very close to going to the Superbowl two years ago, which surprised everybody,

right? Like they fell flat a little bit last year, but again, they, I think most teams, whoever was going to get that draw and go to Philly in round one was losing that anyway. So I don't want to like massively discredit them for losing that playoff game. But I think just again, Malik Willis, the fact that they were able to win those games or be super competitive with Malik Willis at quarterback kind of speaks to the coaching that's here as well. So the upside for the Packers is quite high and would not fault anyone for thinking that they could come out of I think a pretty wide open NFC, especially even the North here. So shout out to the sports books Malik Willis under is just like Fed families for a couple of weeks. I mean, it was like, they opened his line like 190 or something like that. Like just bananas. He's but I mean, Lafleur actually made him look

pretty good. They just like didn't pass the ball like you his efficiency was actually fine. But he didn't ask like obviously they're not going to pass for this guy. And there's all these like fucking B writer buffoons in my mentions saying that they were going to go pass heavy with Malik Willis. I'm like, dude, what lived under a rock? Like what is going on here? Yeah. Yeah. No, thanks. I mean, that speaks to your, uh, pass rate over expectations, but it was, I mean, what is that? I think they Tennessee game, I think he had like 15, 12 attempt. It was just crazy, but it was so low. Yeah. Uh, that was the only game all year that I think you saw a pulse from the defensive lines

Well, they got a ton of pressure but like everyone got pressure on will levis in that offensive line So yeah, then you see that more specifically more consistently Calling our shot Gary to step up. Here you go. He had 14 attempts against Indy and then 19 attempts against Tennessee. Okay Sub 20 attempts. It's crazy. I'm pretty sure that he had like a 50 yard completion against both these teams. 60 yard completion against both these teams. Otherwise like he finished with 122 and then 202 in the Tennessee game, which I don't think

we bet the Tennessee game, but it was like, it was crazy high. Like just a random long play. Make you sweat for sure. But you love that. You love sweating that, you know, bad quarterback. Low on under 220. I'm monitoring this Calvin Ridley injury, man. Cam Ward lines are up right now at 195.

If Calvin Ridley is not playing week one against Denver, I mean, Cam Ward's throwing for like a buck 50. I mean, that's, for like a buck 50. Um, I mean, that's, that's going to be real tough to who like Tyler Lockett, Ellic, Iman or in chig like, I mean, there's their toes, dude. It's not good. Yeah. All right. The Vikings again, another fascinating team, 28th from a strength of schedule standpoint, 20 to 1 to win the Super Bowl, 13 to 1 to win the NFC, give them a plus 320 to win the division, the win total 8.5, juice to the over. Fascinating handicap for this team. A lot of turnover. Again, massively exceeded expectations last season, especially considering what the expectations were once JJ McCarthy went down.

I think they were actually probably pretty low or middling with JJ McCarthy because it's just a little bit more unknown. They've done a great job in free agency over the past couple of years that continued this off season. It just comes down to what do you think Kevin O'Connell can continue to do from a quarterback whisper standpoint is JJ McCarthy. That guy, I think without a doubt, he was able to benefit from a essentially a red shirt ear watching being in meetings with Kevin O'Connell seeing what he could do with Sam Donald's Flores defense is fun. This is a really interesting team.

What do you think about the Vikings? Yeah, especially early on, they're going to have a couple of early tests here because I think they're going to be without Jordan Addison for the first three, like two to three games. I think that's like an incoming pending suspension there. Justin Jefferson already suffered like small hamstring tweak. And so now behind him, you're looking at Jalen Naylor and I don't even know who else is like who else has passed that to be honest like they just haven't gotten much run at this point. But TJ Hockinson obviously still there. Like I think that like that starting point for JJ McCarthy with like a banged up Justin Jefferson

and Jalen Naylor is not great against Chicago. You know I think their defense is you know decent we'll talk about that in a second but like I think that they can put it all together I think do think in the grand scheme of the whole season I think that if Kevin O'Connell figure out Sam Donald if you can figure out with Kirk and aging Kirk cousins And you have all these weapons still in place. I'm pretty confident that they can figure it out with JJ McCarthy here Office of wine is still good as you mentioned and the defense can cook like they did You know for as continues to do crazy things and, you know, make stuff happen and be like lead a chaotic defense.

And they were what, second in EPA defensively last year. So yeah, it's, I mean, pretty crazy. So yeah, I mean, this opened at eight and a half about even in the over there was pretty interesting. Seen a lot of like nine and a halfs around even now. That's tough. I struggled to get there. I mean, that's like, it's really tough because we're looking at like, you know, the schedule,

like after their bye, they're dogs in four straight games, then, you know, favorite Chicago, then dogs in three straight games. Like the schedule is just really tough in this division and in like they're out of division games are pretty tough. So it's just like a really tough path for me to think, oh yeah, this team is a good bet to win 10 games. That's, that's a lot of wins. It's a lot of wins. Uh,

unique little schedule nugget where they play like overseas in different spots and back to back weeks, like week four, uh, against the Steelers and week five against the Browns. The good news, I guess, is those are both road games for them, but they're neutral, right? Like it's not a Steelers home game or Brown's home game, but they are in the schedule. So that kind of works out strange for them. If again, body clock adjusts, you could figure all that out. Yeah. I mean another spot is almost like the Packers where the volatility here is massive.

I think the range of outcomes is pretty, pretty vast. The schedule is so much harder than it was last year. But I don't know, I'm kind of a JJ McCarthy believer. I think that he, I think there is something to, especially quarterback, that like that magnetic personality, leader of men thing really matters. We get again eventually have to snap the football and make quick decisions and actually play football. It doesn't matter if you're just a great rah rah guy, but I think there's something to that. I think having last year probably really helped him to be

able to just kind of sit back, observe, get some reps and this just acclimating yourself to the NFL and all the pressures that come with that. Now you kind of sit back, observe, get some reps and this just acclimating yourself to the NFL and all the pressures that come with that. And now you kind of figure it out. Where am I going to live? Where am I going to hang out? Where do I like to eat? You got all that stuff nailed going into year two. Now you just got to go play ball. I think that those things kind of matter if he could play ball. And that's a huge question. But again, like I have made questions about Sam Dornal last year, but Kevin O'Connell can just kind of figure it out. And the offensive line, like they actually, I think they had a home run on both sides of the, um,

you know, interior lines, like great, great off season. They could have maybe now one of the best, it was probably the worst interior offensive line last year. Now it might be like the best interior offensive line line could be like, again, I don't know where we have them ranked. But I'd imagine it's a top 10 unit, maybe even higher with like the range of outcomes with, you know, if everyone stays healthy there, I think there's some as a Daris solid dealing with some injuries, but like, the Ottoman Jackson people loves draft them in the first round, poached two really good guys from the

Colts interior offensive line, Ryan Kelly at center, Will Friars at guard. Like that's a great unit now. So Jordan Mason can kind of mix in a little bit and keep Aaron Jones fresh. I feel like they're going to be able to kind of dictate how they want to beat you in play. And this Flores defense can take some kind of scrubs in the secondary or some questionable talent and make them okay because they're so difficult to scheme against and they play such a unique style that really no one else plays. Like you just, you don't see it. So the division teams have an advantage because they get to face it a little bit, but it's just, it's really, really tricky. They were a

little less blitz happy last year than they were the year prior, but they still super aggressive. They could bring it from all levels. They love to blitz their linebackers. They can blitz safeties. They put Mattelis in all these different spots and do different things with him, drop him deep blitz him. They're just, they're really hard to game plan for. So they create, when I look at like some of their defensive metrics, like there's more volatility there, like, yeah, they're going to get a ton of pressure. And they're going to turn teams over because like they just, there's going to be a couple

snaps of game where you don't have your protections call correctly. And they have eight guys come in and you got to figure it out on the fly. And that's, that can be really tricky. So I like this team quite a bit. My concern is some of the secondary pieces, but I kind of just believe in Flores is one of these guys that just maybe isn't a head coach, but it's just an absolutely elite coordinator and will be a talent maximizer just like McConnell is on the offensive side. and it like it's one of those things that it's tough to see them having too many wins, but I can see it happening like it's just like the schedule looks tough, but they're a good team and like they you Vikings team is not out of any Game so and then like you mentioned the Jordan Mason thing I think it's huge like our buddy crack rock has been talking about Jordan Mason all season And crack rock for all the you know the hate that he gets on with some of his stuff

He is plugged in like three teams It's like the Vikings the Jets and the Giants and he he's pretty much bad 100 on like those teams. Anything else? You know, there's some question. There's a couple of air balls here and there. But those three teams he's been basically money on. And that was like one of his biggest notes was that Jordan Mason was going to come in, be the goal line back, be like be used a bunch. And then early on, they also said they're going to split work. So I was dying in Aaron Jones under three 750 rushing yards. Um, I thought you were, uh, like I'm like going back and forth. It's like seven 50, seven 75. I don't know. I'm thinking about it. Um, I, but the problem is Jones, like when he's healthy, he's just so good. Like he's healthy and they're like feeding him. And this was all BS. Like

he's going to have like 1200 yards if he's like alive. But if they split work and he still has the injury downside, like, I don't think that he's really gonna I think he's gonna be like 750s a lot I mean that's just that's a lot of yards for a guy splitting full-time so I think the under there is interesting and then you have the wind total is tough for me because again like eight and a half over there was interesting but now 10 plus is it's kind of like the Lions like it's just tough to project to win them that many games. But I mean, I don't know, maybe it happens.

Again, I feel like a cop out. I think it's the same way that you play the Packers. If you are bullish on the Vikings, I think you just swing big. You take a 320 division, 13 to 1 to win the conference. Like the range of outcomes are pretty bad. I mean, they're not young guys anymore, you know, upfront, but like Jonathan Allen and Jovan Hargrave are still really good football players and pretty big upgrade for the interior of the defensive line from what they had last year. It was not a great interior defensive line.

And I don't know, Jonathan Grenard is awesome. I mean, Van Ginkle was amazing last year. Like those two dudes off the edge are a problem. He didn't get anything out of Dallas Turner, who barely played, played like 25% of the snaps. They're going to increase him. Last year, who, coming in was thought to be the consensus top edger rusher in that class. He did not get drafted first, but he was highly regarded out of Alabama. They just, they have dogs on defense with a coordinator that can absolutely let them loose. So I'm, I'm more on the bullish upside and of Vikings range of outcomes that I am on than a collapse here.

Cause I just think there's, they're going to be good defensively again, without a doubt. And JJ is good. And I think he's going to be, they could be very interesting again. So yeah, I want to take some like strong stances and like give people bets, but it's like really, it's really hard just like anything that you've heard or done. And if anything that we could do sway you, like I think we're trying to tell you to take some swings on some of the upside stuff versus maybe just some of the binary win total things here. Yeah. All right. Bears again, really schedule last year, 26 most difficult strength schedule this year. So way harder,

44 to win the Superbowl. 21 to win the NFC. They are plus 550 to win the division. Win total eight and a half juiced to the under. Started four and two. Everyone was pretty excited. They won one more game down the stretch. Schedule got a little harder and things kind of fell apart. Now again, Ben Johnson, most coveted head coach, candidate for the last few seasons, Bears finally brought him in and again, it's stealing him from within division as well, I think is a pretty massive piece. Another team that I think a really nice off season, a huge investment to upgrade the offensive line. Supporting cast is strong. We need Caleb to take

a step forward here. Can they do that with a more difficult schedule? What do you think about the bears? Yeah, it's, it's a really tough team to analyze because I think that in most divisions are looking at them as like probably the second best team or like a team that we think can win the division in this instance. I think that they're probably the worst team like roster construction wise, but you have Caleb Williams, you have Ben Johnson. And I think that that combination early camp reports, like the first two days, I said it was like a disaster. They said it was like a mess. The defense is winning every day,

whatever the last two or three days. It's been pretty good. They're like, you know, people are picking up steam and like, okay, this is, this is humming along. They're running the two minute drills. Well, like, I mean, Caleb Williams is doing a lot of new stuff. Apparently he's playing a lot of under center. He's never played under center his entire career. He's like, you know, learning entirely new offense. I think there's a lot of new stuff going on here for him. So yeah, I think, honestly, I think that this Bears team is not going to necessarily

start great offensively, but I think that down the line, like they have a lot of upside and they're going to play better and better. Obviously you had in Colston Loveland, who's already running with the ones, you have Luther Burden who, I don't know how much he's going to play this year.. Obviously you had Colston Loveland who's already running with the ones. You have Luther Burden who, I don't know how much he's going to play this year. He already got kicked out of practice

or something like that, or kicked out of a drill yesterday for not lining up correctly or not running the right route. Ben Johnson just yelled at him and told him to get out. And so that's a tough scene. He might be in the early dog house, but he's a rookie. Like they don't really need him right now.

That's kind of the point of him. So I think it'll be a lot of Rome, a lot of DJ, a lot of Colston Loveland. And then, you know, the revamped offensive line, they're in such a good position to just like do whatever Ben Johnson needs to be done and like simplify the game for Caleb. So I'm excited offensively and then defensively,

I think just bringing in Dennis Allen, adding a little bit more upfront. Like I think that all of these are good, you know, kind of connections for this Bears team and like good additions. It's just like, it's a lot of projection based for this team. It's something that we didn't see at all last year. It's all new. They had some talent, but it just like didn't pan out. So I don't know. Like it's, it's very much projection based, but I think the upside is high if it all clicks. Yeah. Undoubtedly high upside Caleb, um, like the sack rates gotta be on him a little bit for sure. 68 sacks taken is so many sacks. He, uh, it's just a 28.2% pressure to sack

rate, which is extremely unserious. Like you gotta figure it out. Like it's gotta be 20 or below to be competitive. You see the elites in the league that are, you know, hovering in the low teens or, you know, right around 10, 12%, 20, almost 30% of the time that you take pressure on, you go down with the sack. That's just, that's not it. So again, they've addressed the offensive line, so he'll get pressured less, but this is about going down when pressured. So you know, raw sack total will go down as well

but at the same time he's got to figure out a way to Not run into them I think some of that like hero ball stuff that we were worried about a little bit really came to fruition and Creation bad habits that were developed maybe at USC Like you just you can't you can't do that. Like you just you're dead on you're taking a sack that high. So Like you just, you can't, you can't do that. Like you just, you're dead on you're taking a sack that high. So, uh, the defensive side stuff is interesting. Dennis Allen could be another one of these guys that just, I don't know, he had a

really long leash for some reason. He was a head coach for I think longer than anyone really thought was not a winning head coach with the Raiders or the Saints, but his defense is always like over-performed their talent. Like last year was a great example of it. And this is just another guy that he's in a good spot, just being a coordinator, not having to be like the man. So you'll see, I think more man coverage from the Bears this year.

I think you'll see more press coverage. Uh, FDN has a really cool, uh, metric that they measure. It's like wide open, uh, completion percentage. Um, it measures how often a targeted pass catcher has five plus yards of separation. Basically like, frequently does someone get wide open against you, the Bears second worst in the league at 15%. Dennis Allen last year, the Saints with a worst talents.

Again, remember they traded Marshawn Latimore. They had so many injuries, Paulson Adobo went down. Like they, it was a bad, bad secondary. They have a six best wide open completion percentage last year, just 7.6. So I think they'll you'll see a little bit improvement there. They also didn't play.

With Tyler Gordon for most of the year, Jaquan Briscoe was out for most of the year. They've been. I think they've done a good job adding defensive line help. They drafted Shamir Turner, you know, Oda Dingbo, Greedy Jarrett, those guys up front kind of need some guys to support Montez Sweat. So there's again some talent and some reasons to be optimistic here. You just kind of come all together.

And I think it all falls on Caleb in terms of what the ceiling is, because I think Ben Johnson is going to scheme well. It's going to make good decisions. It's going to be a great team. I just kind of come all together. And I think it all falls on Caleb in terms of what the ceiling is. Cause I think Ben Johnson is going to scheme well, it's going to make good decisions. It's going to be aggressive properly on fourth down, all those different things. Just can Caleb elevates and then start to take guys along with him. And I think, uh, you know, I guess to help aid the projection here. So like I went back and looked at Jared Go in 2021 with Anthony Lynn for shared golf 2022 with Ben

Johnson. Now they added more pieces like that's, you know, I think that's, that's when they added Amon Ra was like when he kind of came into, you know, while I'm right there, the offensive line did get better. But again, these are all similar things that the Bears are doing to their adding talent, writing offensive line and they're adding Ben Johnson. So I don't think it's that crazy of a comparison. 2021 Jared golf, 3200 yards, 220 something per game,

six yards per, 6.6 yards per temp, 19 touchdowns at eight interceptions, 2022, 4,400 yards, 260 of a game, 7.6 yards per temp. So it's like a full yard higher, 29 touchdowns and then seven picks. So way more past attempts, way more efficient, way better, just top to bottom. Like, you know, again, like, again,

Caleb is like not the same quarterback at all as Jared Goff, but like seeing him take that kind of leap, I don't think that that's that crazy. And so I did bet Caleb 4k plus yards. I think that's like, you know, people saying the bears quarterback never done it in history. It's just like a stupid argument. Like I understand it, but like it's dumb. It's true, but it's not a reason why Caleb can't do it. Right? Yeah. Right. Exactly. It's just like, yeah, I get it. Bears like it's dumb. It's true, but it's not a reason like Caleb can't do it. Yeah, right. Exactly. It's just like, yeah, I get it. Bears fans, we've been hurt forever. The city of Chicago has been painful.

I wouldn't consider myself a Bears fan. Just someone who lives in Chicago. I know there's a lot of friends who have been in pain watching the Bears and not have a competent quarterback ever, literally ever. I mean, Jay Coller was like the closest to that. And that was obviously dysfunctional and other, for other reasons. So I don't know. I think it's, I think it's more than possible. I think this leap forward makes sense,

but does it translate to wins? That's the question is, does this translate to wins? I don't know. That's my, that's my question. I mean the schedule at the end, I mean the schedule last year got tough, but I mean those are important games to start Minnesota at Detroit to start. But then you get again, early by week, which I don't typically love. I am not going to make necessarily decisions in terms of, um, futures or anything based off of that. I just don't necessarily love it on paper, but down the stretch, I mean, back to back

13 and 14 on the road at Philly at green Bay, you get a little bit of a reprieve at home with the Browns, but then again Green Bay at San Francisco and a Lions game in week 18 Which if we think this division again is gonna matter it's gonna be close that game probably matters more So then I don't think it's just fair to throw out week 18 games, but that's not gonna matter We just we very much could matter You know, I guess you'd rather have it at the end there, but they're going to get a divisional foe in week 18 because that's what the league does. And this division has nothing but good teams. So you just never know where that can be. But that's a tough little stretch of six games

where you're really only favorite in one of them. And those three of them are on the road. So that could be a really, really important stretch. Also back to back road games at Baltimore, at Cincinnati in the middle of the season. That's also not super favorable, right? So yeah, this is just a division where nothing really would surprise me almost in the order of where these teams fall.

I guess I maybe would be surprised if the Bears won the division, the Lions were in last place, but I also, maybe not. Like these teams are all really good and they all have, I think, legit Super Bowl aspirations or at least the ability to contend and fight with the Eagles to be the top team in the NFC. and fight with the Eagles to be the top team in the NFC. Yeah. I think that all adds up there. I've been comparing this team to be like when Kyle Shannon took over the Falcons in 2015. He was offensive coordinator there with Dan Quinn. They went 8-8. The offense was good, but not great. And then, and then Matt Ryan in 2016, 2017 season,

like, you know, won the MVP and like balled out and like just things clicked. I just don't know if it like clicks right away for Caleb. Like, I don't know. I would, I would be just really surprised if that happens. Like again, I think a leap will happen, but again, golf played even better after that, like in the 2023 season and the 2024 season, like he just got better and better and better in those progressive seasons. He wasn't immediately just like incredible.

Like he was good, but not like incredible. And that's, you know, he continued to get better. And that's what I expect we see from Caleb. So I don't want expectations to be too high of this Bears team. Like if they win nine games, that's an awesome season given the schedule and like where they are and if Caleb plays well. But they can also win seven games and Caleb could play really well and that's just like I think a normal range of outcome within like this schedule because like Caleb could throw over 4200 yards and if I don't know the defense doesn't play well or he throws 15 picks or 13 picks like that's all or they can't run the ball like I mean that's also possible too. So like there's a lot of different outcomes here where this Bears team I think could win very few games and it's still be encouraging. I don't really

see a way that they end up winning like 10 or 11 to be like 11 or plus. Like, it's really tough to imagine they'd have to win all the gimmies. You know, the Saints, the Giants, the Browns, for sure. And then they'd have to win like, yeah, basically every game, their favorite. And plus a couple of hundred games or underdogs in, which is pretty tough. Yeah. What do you think about the Andre Swift this season? I worry about him. Uh, I've been looking, trying to find more camp reports about like, he's

been playing with the first team. They tried to draft a running back three times and then traded back three times because they got sniped on a running back. Those picked one to three picks before them. The last time he was with the Lions, Jamal Williams out carried him by like 200 carries. It was like 150 carries with Ben Johnson. So I think he starts as the one. I think he probably sees a lot of work.

Wouldn't surprise me to see more Roshan or Kyle Menunggai. I just don't. Everything publicly Ben John said he's liked him but I just don't believe it. I don't buy it. So I don't know what's gonna happen. There's not really like a free agent that makes sense for them right now either. They can make a trade like Travis ETN could make sense. I don't know. I mean what are you in on him? I just like I'm worried. I think the downside is pretty hefty to be honest. Yeah, I'm I was in on him more early in the offseason and like basketball drafts and because

I don't know. Yeah. And I don't know, it's getting a little bit more expensive, but I'm not out on him. But I I feel like they could run the football. I think that obviously there's something Ben Johnson liked to do, getting a great offensive line and some really good backs. Maybe that's part of it. Maybe he just will scheme different, but that's just another thing I think they need to do better to protect Caleb and just be a little bit more multiple. I don't know.

I'm interested in terms of like with the personnel too. If you're going to have Colton Loveland out there a little bit more as basically a big slot then maybe the inline blocking tight end, how does that impact things too? Yeah, I just think that there's like a non-zero chance that Swift just gets like straight up cocked at some point this season and just like becomes the 1B or like I don't even know like the 2. Like that's the non-zero chance if they trade for someone and Roshan's crushing or Menong guy's crushing and like, um, I dunno, we certainly

going to start, I would say certainly start as the one a, um, and if I could guarantee that I think he'd be a great pick. So you said, I think that they can run the ball, but I dunno, I worry like the downside outcomes are what happened when he was, I mean, Jamal Williams wasn't good. Like he just was like fine. Like he was I mean Jamal Williams wasn't good like he just was like Fine, like he was just a he was a bruiser that they loved because they fed the ball to like 250 times. I Want to believe Caleb? I? Think the talent is undeniable There's just a few bad things last year. If you were anti Caleb like you

Probably feeling pretty good based off of what happened last year? I'm sure. Pressure to saccharate. Oh yeah, that was a problem still. Below average, the second lowest EPA in the league from clean pocket. So it wasn't even really good from a clean pocket, right? So we need to see steps forward, right? It can't just be arm talent, wild plays. You have to be able to have more singles and doubles.

I think Ben Johnson's gonna be better at scheming that than Shane Waldron, for sure. I think we all agree with that. I just need to see him execute the schemes, singles and doubles and not play hero ball, right? Like just take the slam if it's there. You don't have to try to make something happen deep down the field.

And then just to see if he can run more too. Cause I think when we saw him actually in design runs and stuff like that versus the getting rewarded for the scrambles, I think that's the problem. It's the design runs that he could be I think he'd be good at. So tough division. Any ways to bet it? Any favorite ways to bet it? Do you like here? It would probably be just like fading the lions. Like do you like some kind of like Packers Vikings or I don't know, Packers Bears, some kind of combo of that, like one, and win like that range and then another team could sneak in front of the Lions with the Wines still winning like eight or nine games basically. And then the second place seems wins like 10 or 11, you know, like that's, I think all within the range of outcomes, they just got to win a lot of their out of division games, which I mean, these are four

of the best teams in the NFC. Um, you know, like it's not saying a whole lot, but they are all really good teams. Yeah, it's tough. I'd swing on some upside. Lee said I lean Vikings. Um, yeah, I lean Vikings. I just did coaching. I think, I think, is the kind of why I would do that. What are they doing right now? Have you thought, have you looked at that at all? Yeah. 13 to one. Yeah. 13 to one on TK. I mean, it's fine. Like, I don't know. Like I think that they should be much, I mean, the Lions are five to one. They should be much closer to that. They like, they should

be much, much closer to each other, but. Yeah. Green Bay 11, Minnesota 13. So I think we're just getting, I think a nice price break because of, I think the JJ McCarthy unknown is very much baked into those markets. Right? Like everyone's going to agree that you take a stand or have that take, you know, pro Minnesota. It's like, well, JJ McCarthy, it's like, well, this is a 13 win football team that we're now getting priced down, you know, four and a half, five wins. Like that's a big deal.

Like they ran into a buzz saw with the Rams who were built to crush the Vikings last year, right? And the interior offensive line problems with a team that has a loaded defensive line. And they just made Sam Darnold eat it. And that game was over right away. Now they've gone out and addressed the biggest problem and then maybe upgraded a quarterback. And definitely upgraded some bodies on the defensive side too, so in the offensive line. Now they've gone out and addressed the biggest problem and then maybe upgraded a quarterback and definitely upgraded some bodies on the defensive side too. So in the offensive line. So yeah, Minnesota, pro Minnesota, chalk thing that I may be like, I think that like six

to one on Caesars for Aiden Hutchinson to lead the NFL in sacks is probably not a bad price. Okay. It's chalky, but I think you can get it done. I opened up a Hard Rock account and they gave me a bunch of bonus bets that I have to use in the next week. So I started just ripping random NFL futures and I'm trying to like clean the count a little bit. And so I put a future of Aiden Hutchinson most Saks.

That's all your thing and Cubs to win the world series. I did a part of the two. It was like a $25 bonus bet, something like that. I don't know. Yeah. So I just thought it was fun. I'm trying to, again, keep that account clean for as long as possible. Maybe have another out for at least a couple of weeks during football season. Yeah, there you go. That's definitely an account maintenance bet. Sack leader with a World Series bet. Definitely you want to keep that account good and good standing.

I might do another one like Caleb MVP or something like that, like, or, or just like Caleb 4,000 passing yards and Cubs World Series and like Bulls that make the playoffs. There's something like Chicago parlay for fun. I don't think I'd put the bulls in the playoffs, but that's, you know, I wouldn't need it. That might be the biggest long shot of all those, to be honest. Yeah. I mean, that's rough. I see good advice. Account maintenance bets. They're good. You know, it works. Moneyline parlays, you know, occasionally just mix it in. Got to keep those accounts in good standing.

So yeah, Caesar six to one, my first run, I went and tinkered some stuff and I still, I still have Hodgson like too clear of anybody else. I think from like a per snap basis, Miles Garrett would be the best, but I think Miles Garrett is going to see significantly fewer path rush snaps because his team is pretty terrible. And I think in the second half, he's going to be trying to defend the run a bunch. So that impacts that. So yeah, be

aware about it if you want to get down on something in the futures market. Seizures will take your action. So, alright everybody. Appreciate everyone hanging out with us again. Move along, listen to podcasts, fourx4 bets on the YouTube channel. Come back next week for sure. We're going to keep the NFC train rolling. We'll have some exciting news to share on the 4x4 betting subscription that we are. We will share it a little bit next week. Maybe get it up there and let you see what we have coming. So appreciate everyone hanging out with us. Subscribe, like before we take off. For Connor, I'm Ryan. See you all next time. Thanks, everybody.