Move The Line - 2025 NFL Draft News & Best Bets!

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

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Hello and welcome to Move the Line, back for draft season, joined here as always by Connor Allen, special guest today, our friend from ESPN, it is Ben Solak back in the chair. What's going on, Ben? Not that much, man. Draft season. I don't know if you heard about it. I think all these players are going to go to league in a few days. It's pretty exciting.

Pretty excited about it. Actually in the draft menus, Connor, we have bets more so I think than really any of the last couple of years, I can think at least in terms of like early April. I feel like we were waiting almost to like the week before last year. So really excited to kind of dig into this. We were doing a little bit more like mock draft, prospect specific stuff, but I think we can get a little bit more into some of the markets today. Yeah, I mean, maybe I just donated enough last year in the draft that they felt comfortable opening up markets earlier. So, you know, I'm excited to take advantage of this year.

We have player over unders more than three weeks out. I mean, it's awesome. It really felt like 24 was like, man, these books have figured out that we're taking them to the woodshed, like they're never gonna give us anything again. And then 24 happened and the books like, oh, no way, they suck at this.

Give it back to them in 25. I took a bath at 24, dude. Rough. Same. Yeah. Yeah. The legend was not. That Michael Penick's pick still a match. I mean, that's generational wealth. It's like 80 to 100 to one day of the Falcons has picked Penick's. Yeah. Nick's at Broncos. Nick's at 12 exact was like one of the only things that saved my evenings. Yeah. I was nowhere on Penick's. And I thought all the pre-round one quarterback hype, I was like one of the only things that that saves my my my evenings. Yeah, I was nowhere on Penex and I thought like I thought all the the pre round one quarterback hype I was like this is not going to happen.

Like there's no way these guys are going to get taken that early. And six of them went top 12, which you know, we're doing that again this year, right with with with Dart and with the whole round one stuff. It was the McCarthy stuff last year, like the day of in day before smoke or like that looked like he was kind of moving up a little bit and that messed up a bunch of like the exact is and all of a sudden, like I have way too many exact is with like not enough outs. I'm it's just way too thin of a number and then they all just they all dude. Oh, for Shano falling out of top 10 because of the Vikings trade was a killer. No brutal.

Yeah, that reminded me of I was a Darnell right the it was brutal. Yeah. That reminded me of, uh, was the Darnell Wright the year before Connor with like, I think it was like an exact pick to the Bears and nine or something like that. And then they just traded it back and landed in the next pick. So it was like really nice position, like six to one number and like directionally actually and correct. Actually, literally accurate, but not, but not a winner. Yeah. But here we are back like a bunch of just absolute donkeys to do it all again and to, uh, to donate. So before we kind of jump into maybe some of that, I guess we'll talk some of the bigger news. I think that still really matters in terms of kind of shaking this out a little bit. Ben, it is really kind of starts, I feel like with the Browns at two, um, you kind of the consensus as we get into more mock drafts in the last couple days, a lot more reporting has someone other than Shador Sanders going to or did feel like at least I definitely bought into the Miles Garrett clip with Siciliano after he signed was like, I have a little bit of Intel and the quarterback situation. He seemed a little bit excited about it that us, I feel like definitely didn't lead to you drawing any lines to Kirk Cousins per se. Definitely wasn't Kenny Pickett optimism necessarily, but no one has seemed to react market wise that that is the move. What do you think about the Browns at two? What do

you think about their quarterback position? Any way you want to take that? Yeah. They also, they added Ellinger this week, right? Isn't that a thing? No, he's at the Broncos now, excuse me. So the room is still It's still right a Kenny Pickett focus room, which indicates to me that there's room to add a player Uh, I still think that the possibility of quarterback at two is very legitimate. I will say that like the miles garrett You know, i've got some news and whatever NFL players like you know They are they are quick to jump to assumptions on things, right? And so like, I wouldn't be surprised if like, you know, they told Gary, like, yeah, we're looking at Chidora, too. And Garrett was like, I'm in like, you know,

you know, like Garrett was like, you know, give it to me like, you know, I can also get in writing here. And so I do think that the Browns have done their work on quarterback at two. I do think Chidora was still in play. I do like we haven't heard Dart to at to explicitly by any team that's interested in quarterback at this point outside of the cam board team outside of the Titans I'm willing to let there be like a Jackson Dart potential as well. So you're cognizant of that. I what I do think is inaccurate is how much more confident the

market is an Abdul Carter relative Travis Hunter. That's what surprises me. Not to say it is an Abdul Carter if you if you made me pick right now probably would pick Abdul Carter, but to go number two right now, I have Abdul Carter minus 270, Travis Hunter plus 235, which is disgusting juice, obviously, but the implication there being that Carter is five times more likely to go, four or five times more likely than Travis Hunter, to me, that's inaccurate. Where it's just, I don't see that Carter is that much better of a prospect than Hunter. Personally, I have Hunter above him. And then obviously there's a positional value conversation.

But for the Browns who like have spots open at both corner and at wide receiver, like I don't see why they would move off of Hunter for like a positional valuation. So to me, like that's the interesting thing at two. Yeah, that is shift a little bit too, Connor. Any thoughts or anything new since last time we talked on Browns at two or any of the Sanders, Jackson Dart discussion.

I haven't heard like Ben said dart at two, but definitely a lot of steam as we typically find with that next quarterback Jackson darts that guy this year. Well, there's also that clip of Andrew Berry just like gushing about Travis Hunter. That was I think from the owners meeting our league meeting like recently where he was like talking about him compared to like champ Bailey and other guys that played two way in college and like how Travis hunter stats are actually significantly better obviously in different era But he was just like I mean he was very speaking openly about how much he liked Travis hunter

So yeah I grabbed some as soon as the whole like Schefter Underdog tweet of like Brown zeroing in on Abdul Carter Travis hunters odds went to 11 to 1 13 to 1 to go second overall Shoulder Sanders was like 6 to 1 8 to 1. I mean that's still around. I think they're, Travis Hunter's odds went to 11 to one, 13 to one to go second overall. Uh, should her Sanders was like six to one eight to one. I mean, that's still around. I think they're just playing some long odds. I think like Ben said, like they should still be very much open at two. It seems like things are trending towards a not picking a quarterback at two, which would leave shooter Sanders stock, like just wide open. Uh,

like I've been trying to piece that together because when there's volatility, there's value in finding a bet somewhere down the board for where every shooter goes. I'm just still trying to figure out where that is. Maybe it's the Saints at nine, I think it's like plus 500 to take a quarterback. Maybe it's further down the board. So I don't know. I would love to hear if it's not the Browns, if it's not the Giants at three, because again, they kind of filled their quarterback room in a sense, or they overpaid a third stringer, however they want to look at it. If they do draft quarterback, like where does shooter Sanders go?

Seahawks 20 to one, anyone? I like that actually. That's fun. My main thing is always like the mistake that people make is looking at how good quarterback one is and being like, yeah, you know, like I said, like the Jets are 10 to one, the Dolphins are 13 to one. And it's like, oh, cause the, the, like, like I said, like the jets are 10 to one, the dolphins are 13 to one. And it's like, like, oh, see you replace two up, replace

Justin Fields. The main thing to look at is like, how good is quarterback two, right? Like, is there, is there room to add the guy into the, into the, into the room, into the, into the locker room itself? And with someone like the Zios, all right, you just swapped out Gino for Sam Donald, your QB two is Sam Howell. You very clearly are not excited about Sam Howell. Otherwise you would not have done Gino out Donald in, you would have done Gino out and something else plus Sam Howell.

So to me, like tongue of room at QB two, the Sam Donald deal is a one year deal. Like I think the, the Seahawks absolutely want to have someone better than Sam Howell as an option at quarterback in 2026, if and when Sam Donald is not good on what is functioning when your deal. So to me, like Seahawks, every quarterback that's like there at 18 and later, I'm interested in for Seattle. Yeah, it's a good call. And I think right now to just having a little bit of understanding of the volatility that's in this

market right now, more so than maybe any draft is just one of those drafts where it feels like, especially if it goes, your standards doesn't go in the top three. It feels so flat from like, I don't know, four to 34. Like it is just a spot where the Patriots could be in a spot where like no one wants to trade up to four. But you desperately want to get out of that pick because there's just no value compared to being picked. Like I said, in the middle of the teens in this draft. So a lot of volatility. And again, the James contract is like, yeah, you know, like I said, in the middle of the teens in this draft. So a lot of volatility. And again, I, but the Jamis contract is like, yeah, you feel good about him, I guess, as a backup, it's like 4 million, right? Ben, I mean, it's not

necessarily prohibitive from a like contractual standpoint where you're like, all right, we can invest in, in the future, you need to have some sort of plan longterm. And yeah, it's like some of the stuff with Seattle has been shifting towards maybe a longest view of the room with some of the moves they've already made this off season. Yeah. If the Giants spent $4 million on Jameis just to conceal the fact that they want Chidor at three, that's good business. That's fine by me. And you end up moving off the Jameis deal or you trade them for nothing, whatever. Yeah. The trade-up point is an interesting point because I think a lot of teams are going to want to trade back. And I think there will not be as much biting want to trade back, and I think there will not be

as much biting interest to move up, except for specific players. If you end up in a quarterback following spot, whether that's Trudore at the back end of the top 10, or Jackson Dart makes the pass to Saints at nine, and now he's falling again, we don't really know what's going on with Dart, but whatever, I could see... It seems to me that it would be easier for Seattle to move from 18 to 12 to go get a a quarterback than it might be in other years because 12 is going to be so desperate to trade back. I don't know who's at 12 exactly, but like that potential team, which to me makes it more interesting now to identify some of those teams that need long shot quarterback ads at quarterback too and say, let's just take these odds exactly. Like, you know, Seahawks first pick to be a

quarterback or Seahawks to pick Chidora exactly, right? You can look at I think Detroit is a team that's only soon invest in quarterback to the Vikings are a team that desperately needs to invest in quarterback to which is weird because they have McCarthy but also like Daniel Jones left and Sam Donnell left. So right now they're very thin at that spot. So that's what I think you can get a little bit like you would take some of those long shots and say, Alright, since it's an easier year to trade up, I don't

need to worry about the fact that the lines are picking 26 or whatever it is, because they're gonna be able to move up at a cheaper price and go get a guy. Yeah. And I mean, is there any thought to something that we were talking about early in the process, like really, really early,

was Shutter Sanders going to the Raiders? Obviously they traded for Geno Smith, traded away a third round pick, still have Aiden O'Connell. I mean, before any of this, before like, this is back when like sugar Sanders was like potentially the presumptive number one overall pick there was like, you know, mock ups of sugar in a Raiders jersey when they have the first overall pick there's obviously plenty of connections there like do we think that that's still like in play? I mean, it's 12 to one

like I don't if he's going to fall that range. It's almost how I feel about genti like there's a couple of other stabs outside the chalk that like if he's going to be there, like it's not out of realm possibility. It's not I want to I want to know what the Gino deal looks like. Right? Yeah, because that will let us know okay, is it like how committed are they to gene over the course of multiple years. And then the other tricky thing is you don't know exactly how the staff slash front office slash new Tom Brady feels about O'Connell right because I think O'Connell is a delightful QB

too. I think he's a great back and forth by Navi. He's got experience he can clearly put points on the board. He throws accurate from the pocket. He trusts his top receivers like he gives you everything you want but that's how I feel about him. I got no idea how Tom Brady and Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly feel about him, right? And so that's a tough one to read but the mate like I wouldn't want to move on anything Raiders so I knew what the Gino contract looked like in terms of their quarterback market. Yeah, that was supposed to see sounded like when the move was made that was happening like immediately. And here we are,

like, I don't know, six weeks out, whatever, since that's happened, they still haven't signed that deal. So is I'm willing to call it still like Gino is in Cabo right now. As like, like, like this, like, you rarely you rarely see extensions get done, like this is gonna sound stupid, because it's actually done in free agency. Obviously, you rarely see extensions get done in Like this is gonna sound stupid because it's essentially done in free agency, obviously. You rarely see extensions get done in this period that were like unplanned, like,

oh, we just traded for Gino Smith because they're doing all the planned stuff. Like if the Gino deal happens in like May, June, that won't hassle me. I think it's just like, you know, right now the front office is kind of busy with the whole draft class thing. And so I just don't think that's stars aligned.

Yeah. All right. Before we jump in, let's get into one more question because I really want to get your thoughts here. New England at four. If we have a scenario where in some way, shape or form Hunter and Carter off the board, seeing in the Met and let's look, we'll use ESPN bet today. Shout out to the company. Shout out Mickey. Big guy, my boss. Shout out to the company. Mr. Mouse. Shout out Mickey.

Big guy. What a guy. My boss. Where we're looking at, you know, positional props, the paths to take an offensive lineman is like plus 100 or so getting a little bit longer for them to take a defensive lineman or a linebacker or anything like that. What do you think New England does at four?

If this scenario breaks down where should or Sanders still on the board? I would not want to be on Patriots first pick offensive line because. If it's Carter or Hunter, I think it's Carter or Hunter, right? Like if you, if you just get a quarterback go to, I think, I do not think they're taking Will Campbell or Armand Memboo over either one of those guys. So I wouldn't want to be on that market. Now. If I, so what I prefer to be on is probably figure out exactly who they

want between, uh, Campbell and members, both of them are going to be on the board. And then, okay, if it's Campbell, they stand for if it's Membo, maybe it's your back to six or they can like, you know, who knows. So I'd want to know between the two of them who they like and kind of bright put my chips in on one and lose money on the other. The other thing to be cognizant of, like we talked about is trade back potential. And this is where I understand wanting to be on the office of line market because okay, we're there for you know

Both hunter and Carter went which means the chador is still on the board and now I get a call from Some team at 10 some team at 9 the Saints at 9 whatever it ends up being they want to move up and now it's Nice to be on first offensive linemakes. You don't know right is Campbell gonna go is men boo gonna go kind of you know How much they gonna move around think about the Cardinals moving back and then moving back up for Paris Johnson And so to me like it if I want to be on Patriots at four betting wise, I want to know exactly who their offensive line target is. I know Campbell had the quote, or excuse me, Brayville had the quote about Campbell at owner's meetings.

I think he put a little bit like, it's a quarter owner's meetings. He knows everyone's going to see it, right? They're all there in the building. So you can only put so much stock into that. I think that Campbell makes more sense for them. I think he can, he can win on the left side for them and be a left tackle. I also think that this is variable. Like variable likes big players who are long and big and big and long. And that's like, that's not Campbell. Campbell is a smaller tackle to start with and he's also short.

And so there could be a lot of smokescreen stuff going on there. Yeah, definitely still silly. Silly season starts all like it's the whole time, right? There's no like, never believe anything after the combine. Yeah. I'm fine as far as truth and then everything afterward is lies. Yeah. Just a bunch of manipulation and posturing and rightfully so. Yeah. If I just bet my first mock draft like right before the combine or right after combine, I would have been a rich man instead. I just big brand the entire thing. So, um, no, I think that that's an interesting point. I did play a little bit of Campbell, like personally at plus four 25 to exact four again,

because it's just like almost a hedge against Sanders too, I would say in a sense, um, in a way again, they could prefer bamboo, they could go different direction, but, um, I felt like that was good enough there. Now we'll get a plus 300 again, if your desperate for action, I don't think it's a bad bet. Uh, it's not something I'm looking to add at enough there. Now we'll get a plus 300. Again, if you're desperate for action, I don't think it's a bad bet. Uh, it's not something I'm looking to add at that point. Now, Campbell four to one at four is a four to one bet that no one takes your door Sanders in the top three. And then, and then like, you know, a couple of, right.

You gotta do that. Like Campbell remember, are they going to trade back? But generally that's what you're betting on. That feels like good money, right? Like I agree at like less than three to one. And it feels like you're, you're reaching on it, but a four to one. Yeah. I still think with all this discussion here in the top, like Sanders like seven to one to go to still feels like

an interesting bet in my opinion, right? I definitely just think we're getting some good prices. I know we're in for shorter prices than that. We're getting a little bit cheaper tickets and bigger odds, I think is also implied because I still remember like again talking about quarterback rooms. There is I would say a greater than 10% chance that Deshaun Watson just simply is never in the building, right? From a rehabbing Achilles perspective, plus we're suing you for non football injury and trying to get out of this contract perspective. Like right now that room is Watson and Pickett. There's a chance that in the Browns construction, that room is literally just back in which case, like, how can you be anything less than three to one for Chedora to go to overall? Right? Like if that, if that, if that's really

how this ends up being. And so, yeah, I don't mind being on, on Chedora at that long wads. Yeah. We're not going to ever take any shots on the show with or without Ben on Adam Scheffer. Scheffer is the goat, right?? What he does, he's fantastic. But teams also know that they can use Schefter to get stuff out there as well. And when Schefter comes out and says something like, as of right now, it feels like Carter's the pick, it's not necessarily reporting known information. He is just kind of reading tea leaves a little bit, but that massively moves markets. Harking back to the Aidan Hutchinson draft, which will always, I know the three of us will always remember, you know, day of, you know, he's talking about, yeah, in Hutchinson going one, right, and not Trevon Walker, been talking about like the Cam Robinson signing was massive for

the, you know, for the Jags and for Aidan Hutchinson and like all these different, you know, different areas where it's like Schefter, super credible, but sometimes misses. So I think the response here to the market has been off of the Schefter report, which is not really a report. Yeah, listen a lot happens between then and now is the main thing, right? Like if Schefter were reporting on I don't know the Atlanta Falcons quarterback room at the same the same timeframe last year hit him I'm like, yeah, the Falcons are They're starting quarterback as Kirk cousins They gave him a big contract and then between then and now the Falcons took a look at Kirk moving around and

said, Oh shoot, like, you know, we gotta have a different plan here. You end up getting in panics at eight, right? The, the, the thing to remember is that we always say like, you know, oh, you know, none of these pro day stuff matters to stock up stock down stuff matters. The teams don't have their board set. Yes, that is true. The scouting staff has figured out what they like and the director of college personnel has figured out what they like, but I promise you, it is April 3rd, the draft starts April 24th,

between then and now, an owner is going to get involved with a team and change the way that team is thinking about things, right? I'm thinking about Carolina Panthers at one. I, you asked me early April, is it Bryce Young at one? I would have told you, and oh no, that, I do not think that that's where that front office is. Then all of a sudden, Dave Tepper got involved,

and all of a sudden, it's a different player than it was. Things do actually change between then and now. 1000%. Consider that, keep your eyes on, watch that market. I still think that that's a decent value we're at now if you're looking to kind of hedge and get into maybe some smaller positions and bigger numbers. I think it's probably the right way to do it

even though it feels like it's getting close. Some of these markets are out a little bit earlier. So taking some plus money positions, I think is probably the right way to do it, even though it's feels like it's getting close. Some of these markets are out a little bit earlier. So taking some plus money positions, I think is probably the right way to do it. Where do you want to go here? Connor, you're going to go some over-unders. We have some over-unders on ESPN bet that I've popped up this week that are out there. I think that some other books as well, you know, Fandle DraftKings have some of this as well. Seizures has got involved earlier than normal too. Any thoughts on what's posted currently?

Yeah, I mean, we go through a couple that I think are pretty interesting. One that obviously we need to talk about T over under looking at nine and a half minus 200 on the under though. I I'm not sure that that's right. To be honest, minus, you know, minus 200 on the under like we're looking at basically just what the Raiders at six and then the saints at nine. I have a saints ticket. I mean, you can bet the same straight up at like 15 to one to draft Genti. So you're just betting on the Raiders basically, like in that scenario. I don't know. Like I think that they like him. I'm sure that obviously the whole thing with John's spy text kid and all that

stuff, like, sure, I'm sure there's interest. They have plenty of other needs. I don't know, nine and a half. Like it feels like over kind of actually makes sense here a little bit. Maybe I'm crazy though, because I just don't see that many other outs. Yeah, I agree with you on it feels like it's tunneling Raiders hard. You probably can get nicer stuff by just taking, you know, Raiders to pick, you know, some different position Raiders picks and different player. I would say that I would place the percent chance the Patriots draft Ashton Gentry at not zero, simply because like, and that's no sourcing,

nothing, whatever, has been no rumors. But like, Ramon Dr. Stevenson got benched multiple times last season because he was humbling the football so much. Right, behind that is Antonio Gibson, who I think he gave a three year deal to and then did absolutely nothing with. They have no one right now in the running back room. And again, if you want to

talk about a variable inspired decision in terms of what do I want to do for my young quarterback, I'm gonna get a very good running back. So I would like that was something that I remember in like November, December, where we didn't know what teams gonna land where I was like, man, I wonder if the Patriots end up in the Gentie spot, and then they got four overall, it's kind of maybe that's a bit too early. But so I would put that in on zero. I agree with

you. That's though, that Gentie under nine and a half minus 200 that feels too much. Membo at six and a half is surprising to me. Because what? It's Patriots, right? The Raiders the Raiders are good at tackle. Dalmar Glaze was nice on the right tackle last year. He's staying. You could argue the Jaguars I guess but I feel the Jaguars to me are screaming Mason Graham. It's one of the picks in the top five that I feel most confident in.

And then yeah, he ain't going to the Giants. He ain't going to Cleveland. Like I, unless it's me, Membu, under six and a half is plus 140, over six and a half is minus 190. And that feels to me very similar to Gentie, where it's like you have one out for this right now and that's four to the Patriots.

So yeah, those two feel too confident to me. Yeah, it's the Gentoo one is definitely interesting. I mean, the paths to draft a running back like 15 to one. You can get some interesting numbers on the Raiders to go off the board to Ben's point, like if you were wanting to kind of hedge that. Yeah, I know it's a team that needs a lot. They are minus 115 to draft a running back right around there, depending on your shop, four to to one and take a corner five to one to take a receiver And linebacker defensive line in the edge tend to lost so much defensive talent, dude They lost Robert Spillane divine Diablo Trevon Mary. They lost Marcus Epps who didn't play in 24 We took a thousand snaps them in 23. They lost Nate Hobbs in the secondary

They lost over like like over three thousand snaps from 2024 in their defensive back seven and they did not make You know, they extended Isaiah polo Mao and they added I think one other player Jeremy Chen right at safety like other than that Did not really add players. They're very very thin defensive back seven right now, but you know Oh Pete Carroll Chip Kelly Tom Brady, you know Smith it's gonna be offense That defense needs a lot of help. Yeah. Right. But it's also like what we talked about, right? If you're right after the combine, I would have told you it is Ash and Gentie. It was 100% Ash and Gentie at six. Maybe I should just stop thinking about it, but I

got time. So now I'm thinking about it. I was actually using the tremendous function of search or on Twitter for Tech McMillan write-ups and find a bunch of tech Macmillan or Raider stuff. And I was like, wait a second. Oh wow. Gino just got extended. We're so good at this. Look at us.

All right. What is it? Uh, to your extension. Uh, that's all rap has at this time. Rapidly is treated at 25 seconds ago. So we're going to find out. Look at us. Topical.

So now, now I'll be able to, I got out of that answering that Raiders question by being like, Oh, I don't know what they're gonna You know page, you know, and now I gotta go find out and give a real answer What else we got there Tyler Warren also kind of positions to basically You know nine and a half seen a little bit more on like the Bears were some thoughts there that you know that could be a jets pick jets have a ton of needs member was one of those needs there to Jets pick jets have a ton of needs. Memboo is one of those needs there too. Warren at nine and a half flat, right?

One of the rare flat juiced props that's out there right now in terms of the over-unders. Any thoughts Ben on Warren and where he could fall? I think Warren at nine and a half and Colson Loveland at 19 and a half is incorrect. I'm very confident saying there are multiple teams that have Loveland graded as the higher tight end in this draft.

I'm personally there. I know a bunch of people in the media are there. If you look at like Daniel Jeremiah's board, they are right next to each other. Like I do not think it is a 10 draft spot difference. Now, if you just bet on that outright, okay, Warren over Loveland under, that's the wrong way to go about draft betting.

So it doesn't matter what the consensus is. Okay, 14 to the 32 teams have Loveland first. Man, if the Bears have him first and they want to tie it into nine, he's going nine. You know, like you like, we only get one universe. We get one outcome here on the draft. But that, I would right now, like Warren at nine and a half, I would lean over.

I would rather take Colston-Loveland under 19 and a half at minus 140. To me, that's the better bet of the two. But I'm watching those two lines. I'm watching first tight end off the board. Because to me, like, the closer and closer we get the draft time if I don't get crystal clarity on like yes the Jets are the warning team. Yes, you know the Colts are the war and I know it for sure that I'm going to want one to get a lot of exposure on Loveland just for how I view

those two players and how I understand lead use those two players in 19 and a half feels like a weird spot like it felt I had prefer agency that that would make some sense because it felt like maybe the Broncos could be in the mix there. But it feels like an Evan Ingram signing would maybe not have them. It's such a sneaky good roster. It might feel like a spot where they might not necessarily be considering tight end at this point, which is very interesting. I feel like you're lining them around the Colts, which is kind of people have been putting a tight end to the Colts pretty frequently. That would make a little more sense. Yeah, but I like Loveland too. I think he's also on prospect I get the Seahawks at 18 when I'm under 19 and a half and Seattle Clint Kubiak

And and he was a little bit dealt this hand by the the the depth chart that was there in New Orleans But Clint Kubiak walked out and just immediately started playing with multiple tight ends, right? And that's not even like just over the taste of hill of it all no Foster Morrow and Joanne Johnson as well right now They are Noah fan AJ Barners They have two two tight ends. But Noah fan I would argue at this stage in his career is not really a guy that I want to be baking long term franchise decisions off of AJ Barner I thought played pretty well. So the Seahawks at 18 are also a spot that I care about for tight end. And then Falcons at 15 are

also like I think I think they're a defense team through and through but I also like they so clearly just don't want to use Kyle Pitts the way that Kyle Pitts needs to to be is they have no interest in doing that so on and so forth. And we've seen now Terry Fonson invest so much in off in the offense, right in the first 10 picks, they've had all these picks at eight Drake London and Bijon Robinson. Well, here you go now with a rookie horn back there and Penex, do you want to keep adding and so to me like, yeah,

tight end is even if Lowe Lovlin ends up tight end to tight end two is still pretty live to me in the teens. Connor, any other over undersunders on ESPN here that jump out at you so far? Well, real quick, just certainly back to Warren. Like, I mean, you're looking at talking about thin outs. It's literally, he's not going in the top six. I would say pretty confidently at this point,

barring like a pretty big surprise. So you're looking at the Jets at seven, the Panthers at eight, and then, I mean, the Saints at nine. Like none of those have really stood out at all as warranty besides the jets. There's been some jets Warren rumors, but I feel pretty good at this point that the jets are not going to go that direction as of now. So I don't know. I think overnight enough is pretty interesting to be honest, right?

As it stands today. Um, Mike Green, 17 and a half, I know he's been mocked all over the place. Maybe that's one that's just like way too volatile because like the player is good, but the off-field stuff is Not great. And so, you know, there's obviously a wide range of outcomes for where we could go There's no Pierce over under but I kind Sense but any Mike Green 17 and a half takes Ben It's too volatile player This is like, you know If I if I knew for sure that the carolina panthers gave him a green flag for off-field stuff and they made him an eight

Okay, sure. Let's go But it's so specific to team because he had it to as he said explained the company to sexual assault accusations One was I want to say in high school and then the other was when he was at Virginia before he ended up in Marshall. You don't know, it reminds me of like Jeffrey Simmons, but Simmons was a much more visible thing and it happened in Mississippi State and there was video and the situation was different. But with Simmons in the draft process trying to figure out where he would land, it was like, okay, he can go to all nine of these teams.

We just don't know if these teams actually have him on their board or not. So green is one that I'm not interested in touching. If you told me green flags all the way, all 32 teams are fine with him, under because he's extremely good, but I'm not there. So these one, I'm probably not going to touch this cycle. It's interesting to me because it feels like that position at that part of the draft especially feels really condensed. I feel like there's so many guys and there's the volatility and where a team would have those five, six guys on their board could be all over the place. So plus money over a little interesting

to me. But again, they kind of wait and see how that shakes out. We probably have at least a little more reporting on that as it comes out and see if, you know, team visits and some of that stuff that kind of continues to shake its way up. Positional props. Next tab there. Anything there, you know, first non quarterback drafted Connor, second quarterback, I mean, Jackson Dart down to three to one as a second quarterback drafted, which is absolutely insane. I know the first receiver drafted has been popular market discussed. I mean, we were in a group chat with a lot of Tetman Millen haters, strong anti-Tet hive, which I don't personally understand.

I don't want to like keep up for Tet, but like Tet hating is really strange. I know part of that is, you know, Daniel Jeremiah driven where he's a little bit more buried there too. But a lot of people, you know, you run a four to nine of the combine, pop up a couple of nice games in the playoffs. And you make a name for yourself. Matthew Golden has done that, but I mean, I mean, pretty good college prospects. I know he's not necessarily, you know, the speed merchant that some of these guys are nowadays. Ben, what are your thoughts on TET first receiver drafted market? Good player. I,

Drake London went 10 and Drake London didn't even run. Drake London would have ran just about with TET ran. Right. They even ran running the four fives is Ten I think being priced up was about like minus 200 minus 220 to be first to rob the board to me That's accurate golden plus 150 to me that that's it That's about accurate the golden spot really feels like it's been 12 to the Cowboys I was I've talked about wanting speed is a Texas guy. There's nice to see D Lam whatever but Like golden the 49. Okay, very impressive When you watch him play, this is not a

field like he's not a field stretching player. That's not the role that he filled for Texas, he doesn't move like that. He's a lot more smooth than he is, you know, kind of a deep speed track speed sort of a guy. He like golden screams, good wide receiver to like, he doesn't play like Jordan Addison does. But I remember when Addison came out and it was like, okay, like, I don't really want to put a player this size with this skill says more to super one But you know you put him out there play the zine will be fine Like to me he's that caliber of a player and that I just don't I can't set my watch to that going

First wide receiver off the board top 10 top 15 picks you want a guy who can actually be the dominant target getter That's much more so McMillan Who was that obviously over his time as Arizona has the NFL frame to do that has the NFL skill set for that? Clean is a whistle off the field. He's got the volleyball background is unbelievable in the air. He's great after the catch. More than you'd expect for a player of his movement skills. Yeah, like McMillan is a better player than Ben Golden to me. I understand that it feels like the league is a little bit iffy on that. But I

to me, it's an appropriately priced market. Yeah, it does only take one. But I agree with Ben there. It's like, I feels like there's only one potential wide receiver one in terms of like five years removed in this class. To me, that's Tutankham Millen. I know we're betting on the draft is different than a player take thing. Connor, where are you at in terms of wide receiver one golden anything like that? Yeah, I played some golden like, I think it was plus 250 plus 300 a little bit ago, like lightly. I just think that the gap is pretty close. Like it could, they could easily go one arm for another.

I'm not sure that I want to play a little at Buca because I feel like he could maybe like, if, if Tet falls, like it like maybe flip flopping, if they all get to the twenties, but that's like, that's what it would take for like, I think that to happen. And even then I just don't really see that happening, but also quick update on the Gino Smith deal two year, 85 million, $66 million guaranteed. So 42.5. That's pretty good. Yeah. They're probably not taking quarterback. I would say after that. I mean, man, the Seahawks really were like, we came to Gino with 40 million and we just

couldn't get it done. And he gets 42.5 on his extension. Get out of town, dude. Get out of town. Get out of town. So dumb. Yeah. Yeah, that's a strong endorsement. Probably I think he answers the question around the Raiders at quarterback at six. That makes a little bit more sense. Yeah, I like Ibuka too. I think that's a really good football player. Is he profile as a wide receiver one anywhere in the next handful of years? Probably not.

Probably a really good two, but a really good football player as well. Just an interesting market. I think they'll be one team that likes him enough where he should be going significantly higher than that. So, uh, just, just the MECO is just a hater driving that market down, you know, walking him. He wants to bury him out of the first round, putting him at 29. Uh, it's unbelievable. Um, I thought I was crazy. That's just, that's just, that's just, that's just the way it is. And I think that's the way it is. And I think that's the way it is. And I think that's the way it is. And I think that's the way it is. And I think that's the way it is. a hater driving that market down, you know, walking, he wants to bury him out of the first round, putting them at 29. Uh, unbelievable. Um, I thought I was crazy. That's yeah, it's just,

you guys are haters. Ridiculous. Um, all right. Anything else here in the, uh, you know, position props here, Connor, they jumped out to you in terms of any other positions here on the board. First quarterback market. I think this one's tight. Uh, today Baron or will, uh, will Johnson. I honestly have been going back and forth I think this one's tight today Baron or will will Johnson. I Honestly have been going back and forth on this because there's definitely a good bet to be made here I just don't know what it is yet and there will be value in this market I'm just trying to figure out like which team is the will Johnson team or which team is the Baron team?

Because I think you'd really go either way right now. Yeah Barron's tricky to me because like He's a he played slot this year to play outside last year He's not big enough playing the outside in the NFL So what we're taking a we're taking a nickel top 15 like that like I've heard the Brian some dog in him though Ben He's got some dog his nose in there. I've seen the Brian branch comparisons I think branch was clear in a way a better prospect than Baron is and branch fell right now You can argue the swing back is like, Oh shoot, we should have dropped the prime branch.

Here's the next prime branch. Go get him, go get him, go get him. But still you do not see corners who are of questionable outside future. Go that high. I remember Jay Alexander, right? Alexander, where it was like, okay, this dude is all that in a bag of chips. This is a great prospect. Oh, but he's a little small.

And then he just starts, starts to fall down the board a little bit because teams are very fearful of taking guys who are undersized by the outside. And so to me, like, I find I'm in on this market, I'd be Johnson minus 145. That's one looking at ESPN bet. However, well, Johnson had an injury and also frustrated some people there at the University of Michigan with his interest in playing after the national championship season. So I don't know how many teams

are like Johnson that much? Yes, it's tricky. Yeah, it has not been a great like, you know, draft process last year wasn't great. Again, like the player can probably play man wasn't asked to do it as much whereas Baron is shown a little bit more of that to your point, maybe in the inside versus in the outside. It's hard to take a guy that you, you know, having to jam in the inside that early, but the way the game is played now, you kind of need that guy a little bit more often than not too. So yeah, definitely an interesting market. Maybe to Connor's point, we'll have some more information as we get

a little bit closer. But right now, I lean Baron. I don't think that you see either of the safeties go ahead of the corners or at least not, you know, one of the safeties ahead of the first corner, whatever that is. So those guys are both being around 10 to one. That doesn't make a little, you know, any sense to me in terms of where we are betting wise. And those guys are both very, could not be more opposite, very team scheme specific in terms of Starks and the Memorial and how you want to play them out. So I think I would kind of hold off there as well. I will say if you have $700 lying around and you would like to make $100, Jaylen Walker, first linebacker drafted, I'd said that minus 700 is like then that to me should be

minus 2000 relative to Jahad Campbell who Campbell has a labrum problem. I want to say this. I think it's something in the shoulder if memory serves torn labrum. Yes. After the combine, he had surgery. And even then, like he wasn't even get talked about in walkers air then and he's obviously got The injury now carsten sweshenger ain't going that high and like and and again like with these books if it's positional listing You have to worry about oh what he gets introduced as a defense lineman No, it's basically just of this pool of players who's going to go first Well, again if I if you priced walker against campbell sweshenger whoever barrett carter is chris paul jr Like I would make walker minus again Walker probably minus 1500 minus 1800 to go

first overall. We talked a lot about long shots. That's a good way to fill your portfolio. It's also a good way in the draft process, if you have the bankroll, to say, oh, some of the stuff is being priced as if there's a degree of unconfidence. Whereas Walker, I think is now like, what would you guys price Walker top 10 right now if you had to? I don't know, like minus 190, like minus 210 like it's getting to that level. Yeah, we're looking at you Vegas refund sheet here last what little month or so 83% he's going in the top 10. So yeah, we

should be probably right there. Definitely some minus 200 or so at least. So yeah, at least we probably can't get seven bills down anywhere, but maybe as we get closer. We need the top 10 parlays back in our lives of like, you know, you can like parlay a couple guys that are just... This is Cooper Dejean last year. So painful. What an egregious... obviously, and that played itself out immediately. Immediate punishment for everyone that passed on him But he killed all my first round parlay's last year because just thought there was no way shape or form that he's not a first round Pick yeah, I'm looking back at some of that. Yeah, I some of the ones that I had

Oh, this is my this is a previous year, dude I had so much built on Walker going first overall dude. It's unbelievable Absolutely generational generational weekends overall, dude, it's unbelievable. Good day. Absolutely. Generational, generational weekend. All right. Next tab, Connor, we'll slide over to, uh, we have positional totals, um, anything in terms of like number of, uh, you know, where we got two and a half minus 300 for three quarterbacks in the first round. That also is another spot where at this point, it feels like if you had, it should probably be higher than minus 300

in terms of where we're at with the Jackson Dart smoke. Anything in this market here, Connor, that you wanted to discuss, or Brendan, Ben? Honestly, I just don't know. I guess what I wanted to bring up was the second quarterback drafted market, kind of like close to this, because if Shudder doesn't go two or three, it feels like there's a lot more volatility of like, you know, close to this because if should or doesn't go two or three,

like it feels like there's a lot more volatility of like, could a team like Jackson Dart more than shooter Sanders? I mean, there's people who have reported that, uh, like, I don't just don't know if that's actually true, but I feel like once you get out of the more certain parts of the draft of like the top three ish, um, and I think kind of feel like anything can happen, especially if Jackson Dart is a first round pick as much as odds slash everyone's talking about him to be. So I don't know. I was thinking about that a little bit more, not something I love, but especially considering

the condensed price at this point is like way lower than it used to be. Um, but I don't know. It's more just like we've seen quarterbacks that have been talked about to go top three and then they end up not even going to the first round. Uh, you know, we'll have us Malik Willis, Gino been talked about to go top three and then they end up not even going to the first round. Uh, you know, we'll have us Malik Willis, Gino Smith was supposed to go top two and ended up going like way later. It's like all that happens routinely and vice versa. We have guys that, you know,

the bow nix is the Michael Panics is on the reverse. So it's hard for me to decipher which is which at this point in time, uh, because I don't know, I, I'm going back and forth. I've not been good at predicting that. That's all I'll say is I've not been good at predicting which which is which. Yeah, I am. I know. There's multiple themes that I've dart above Sanders. It's the same thing with like the lovelin Warren thing is okay, that is a reality. So now we're going to

identify the market. But if the Browns have taken Sanders to two, that's cool. Factoid you have there you lose money, right? Yeah. So I'm at the stage where it's okay. I, you know, I see the Jackson dart goes to the saints. I see the, you know, dart is in our trade up target, the backend around one box. Like, okay, I'm cognizant of all of this. Like Orlovsky was on today. I'd be like, I'd be surprised if dart fell out of the top 10. Like, all right, like that. I feel like I would not be surprised if that happened. Like, we're calibrating to this. So I'm cognizant of it. And I feel confident that this market isn't going to fly in terms of movement, unless one,

somebody has a ton of money and they know something. My hope is that if someone knows something, I know something. Or two, if something gets reported, if something gets reported, it's all just a mad dash to see if you can if you can get it on a stale line. So to me, I'm not going to move on until I actually have more information. But yeah, like I would say that at no point in the process to move a Sanders close to QB one, I think it was always ward. And then I at this point now the process started

has climbed enough where I think now it's a debate. Me personally, like, I'd rather just trade my pick and go to get a quarterback in 26 if I had to choose between the two, but I'm not the one picking. So there you go. Yeah, yeah. No, that makes a lot of sense. And I had something with something else we haven't even talked about here, but I'm not the one picking. So there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Um, no, that makes a lot of sense. And I had something with something else we haven't even talked about here, which I've had now had two people message me during the show about this

player, um, Omarion Hampton lined in 19 and a half. I don't know. I mean, it feels like so his mock draft percentage is way over 20 and a half, but I feel like we could easily see the bears take him at 10. There's a couple other teams in the teens that could take him. Like, I don't know. I've, I've again, of the people who have been talking to me now have been like, Oh, I want to bet the over. Some people said that they know. I think Hunter says he likes likes the under like, so it's like after everything that just happened there. So where do you stand on, on Hampton's draft stock, Ben?

So I think Hampton's one of the like 12 best players in the class. I, I, I would challenge anyone to find someone who likes Hampton more than me. I wrote down Ezekiel Elliott's name multiple times while I was watching him. And I think he's all that in a bag of chips. I can't find enough spots to feel good about under 19 and a half. It was one of the first lines I looked at when, when I started looking at the show and whatever. And it's just like, you know, walk, walk me through the and whatever and it's just like, you know What's walking through the okay, so we know the obvious teams right? Okay, Raiders of Sex forget about that All right So we have the Bears at 10 after that like Niners Cowboys

Sure, but if like I think that was the thing a couple months ago. It feels like they're moving off that now It's not going to be the Dolphins. It's not going to be the Colts. It's not going to be the Falcons I don't even think it's gonna be the Cardinals like Benson didn't even even show that much last year. Connor's on a one year deal, but still like they have other needs. They've already invested in the spot. It's not gonna be the Bengals. I'm barring a trade of Kenneth Walker or Zach Sharpen. I don't think it's gonna be the Seahawks. So I just, I run out of spots is my problem. And so what I start to bank on if I'm taking the under on 19 and a half on a player I love is that somebody is trading up in the first round for a running back.

Yeah, like I don't want to have bets that hinge on that, right? I just, I can't find enough needs. And then you get to right, like again, it's aligned to 19 and a half, you get to Denver at 20, the Steelers at 21, and even the Chargers at 22 who nausea Harris on a one-year deal, right? Like, yeah, those are the running back teams, man. That's why it's like 19 and a half. And so to me, like, I, I would love to be on the under because of how I feel about the player. But I think that that, that line is doing a good job of catching the teams that wouldn't, wouldn't go for him. And so to me, I'm not taking anything on 19 and a half, but I love him. Good player.

Yeah. I don't see the outs in the teens. Like, like you said, I mean, I, it's, you know, it's just, it's a kind of a wasteland of an area. So it's a tough one. Yeah. No, it's, I agree. That's what I like. I was looking at it. I'm like, I feel like he should, he could go to the bears. I mean, that's if Gentico six, I guess it wouldn't be that surprise. I guess on the bears though, you know, something, a team that I normally have done pretty well

in predicting, I haven't circled back on that lately. So obviously I'll try to do that in the next week or so. But I feel like Tyler Warren is more in play now than he was previously. For the Bears of 10, just considering the offensive linemen just additions they made, considering if Gentie is not there, like, I feel like Tyler Warren or maybe defense could be interesting. I don't know. Is that you have a good read on that on the Bears been? So the tricky thing for the bears for me is that I would want, I would believe strongly that they were edge. If not for the fact that like Dennis Allen has a very particular type that he

likes it at Russia and the guy in this class right now who fits that type is Michael Williams, the kid out of Georgia. And I've just heard nothing about it. And so like, it's like, okay, like, are they, are they playing their hand well? Right? Are they keeping it close to the best? Because I do think they need a second guy opposite Montez. What I think it's been a team I need for them for a little bit. Dennis Allen just loves absolute hogs of dudes, right? They signed day out Angbo to be that that edge too for them.

But he also likes being able to rotate those guys, those huge bodies, run defending bodies. So I would say, yeah, like, like this is a team that needs edge depth. They saw, you know, they had graded Jerry, they still need defensive tackle depth. Should I think Mason Graham is going to be off the board? And I haven't heard anything about Mikell go in there. And so like, they're not going to be a Jaylen Walker team. There's no spot for Jaylen Walker.

Unless they're moving him off ball, which they have TJ Edwards and Tremaine Edmonds, there'd be no reason to. And so to me, like I can't find the defensive player that works for them. So then right, you end up with Tyler Warren. Warren, man, like you have Cole Comet, you have Roma Dunze, you have DJ Moore. We're going to spend a, a, a top 10 pick on a guy who's going to be maybe target three if he outs Komet. Probably more likely target four in year one.

Second tight end, so he's taking 40% of my snaps. And overall, he touches four because I'm giving touches to a back. Man, he better be really cool with the red zone stuff. That's a crazy level of investment for the piece of the pie that he's going to be responsible for. That's what I struggle with on Warren. Bears are hard. Bears are a hard team.

It's absolutely more of me dreaming about what Ben Johnson could do with a guy like Tyler Warren who's taken 50 snaps at virtually every position on offense at some point throughout his college career. If you looked at PFF, it was like 50 plus in the backfield, a bunch of quarterback, bunch in line. He's played out wide. He's played in the slot. I agree with you though, year one, he's not going to come in and be honestly probably the difference maker that Ash Jentie would be for the Bears team or- Not even close. ... someone else. Because you're talking about a fraction of the touches, right?

Like let's do a Marion Hampton versus Tyler Warren. A Marion Hampton is probably getting north of 200 touches, right? If he's drafted with nine overall, uh, with the carries and then, and then the pass catching other Warren's getting 60 in your one. And again, I'm just talking about your one, you should drop whatever, but in terms of my impact on the team immediately for a top 10 pick, like I think, I think, I think Warren would be such an April win. I think bears fans would love, you know, some hidden guys and like, you know,

the crazy stuff and whatever. And then I just, in week six, we'd be looking at a Tyler Warren over under 28 and a half receiving yards line and be like, you gotta take the under here. He only runs 19 routes a game. Like, I, I, I, there's not a lot of room for him to impact versus, versus running back, um, if the bears, like again, talk about that, that Jameer Gibbs comparison 19 routes a game like there's not a lot of room for impact versus versus running back. If the Bears like again, that that Jumeir Gibbs comparison somebody put up for Hampton, which is not stylistic comparison, but in terms of being running back to if the Bears

moved back out of nine, I would start screaming Hampton, right? It's just the same way the Lions who backed out of six to 12 and then and then I'm getting Gibbs or it's like, hey, like we don't want to take the back this early, but we're confident we can get them later and also get bags for him. We got real close there. You're starting to get warmed up with some potential defensive prospects for the Bears. I thought we were going to make a Kenneth Grant conversation. Too early for Grant. Too early. Yeah. Snoot has been toiling the table for Grant every episode.

Good football player. I like him. I like him. I think he's… I like him. I like Grant too. He's good. Yeah. All right. Connor laughing at me. Uh, all right. Positional totals. Anything there, Connor, do you want to move on to, uh, I really liked the team and draft, uh, you know, player market. Cause I think there's, uh, I'm sorry, most of the team special market where you can like, you know,

first pick a position for the team. I think there's, I think a lot more opportunity in that market to take some plus numbers, but take like, you know, first pick a position for the team. I think there's, I think a lot more opportunity in that market to take some plus numbers, but take it wherever you want, Connor. No, I agree. I think the position totals are all like minus 300 one way. So it's not even really worth talking about to be honest at this point.

So you're looking at the team to draft position markets. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, team special tab at ESPN, about the last one there. I will let you kick it off then. I think there's like always value in that market. It's just about like hitting a kiosk to actually get down on it or just, you know, being able to bet on it because there's always a value here. So I don't know if you have any one in mind that makes sense. Well, one of the ones that was interesting to me,

I want to start there because I think typically what we see, it's a little bit easier obviously, right? When you start to navigate what's going to happen in the front of the draft versus the back of the draft where you can have, you know, you know, better football teams, you know, maybe fewer needs, but at the same time, how the draft falls. And then makes a massive impact. You rarely see a team in the top 10 and the saints of that team right now, the shortest odds on the board right now in draft Kings or position, the first pick

for the saints is three to one for a corner. Defensive line edge is plus 350 wide receiver, four and a quarter, tight end 475. I get all the way down to if you like Ashton Gentry there, 12 to one on ESPN. You can find some better numbers out there as well. But really like for the most part, all those other top 10 teams basically have something that's either, you know, minus something or is definitely shorter than three to one there Ben. So again, we touched on the Saints a little bit, but any thoughts there?

Corner being the favorite here currently in the market, which is interesting. Yeah, defense of line edge also being second. Like they retained Chase Young and Cameron Jordan's coming back for another season, which you don't like, you know, make draft decisions off the fact that Cam Jordan decided not to retire, but still like,

again, talking about room in the building, unless they're going defensive tackle, which what the Saints are nine, like, I, to me, that's a little bit early for, for defensive tackle. That feels too high to me. So I like running like you guys talked about running back, I like running back linebacker and they need a DeMario Davis era parent, I've given them Jihad Campbell before both at nine and

turning back linebacker plus 650. You also get Jaylen Walker there as well, which with Brandon Staley is the DC there. Jaylen Walker is actually an interesting cat because of the versatility because the ability to move up and down, play the edge and play it playoff ball. Then corner. They are I got them. They've lost so much so much talent this point. They lost the Dibo and they lost Latimore. So right now they're Kool-Aid, Alante, Taylor in the slot and

then they need an outside guy. I don't know if Will Johnson's a Brandon Staley type. He'd be more barren. But again, now you're playing Alonti on the outside. Yeah. Linebacker plus 650 and running back 12 to one are the interesting ones to me for Saints. Yeah. I give Ugo Omani a little bit more money too. I don't know if they have any interest in, he was terrible in the slot last year.

So I don't know if they have plans to like do something with Taylor and move him outside. It was an interesting one too. It's just, yeah, it's a team that just when I was looking through, it's weird to see three to one basically being the shortest odds. We just don't really see that there too. So that was one that jumped out to me there. Connor, if you look at the Jets right behind him, you know, minus one 10 to take an offensive lineman, but we're talking tight end being viable for them as well. It gets another team that has, you know, a ton of needs, unfortunately a little early for a wide receiver because they really desperately need it It's not really where their first round spot could be the Pats there minus 105 To take an offensive lineman to Ben's point not a ticket that I want to be holding right now

It gets a little bit more interesting if you were to say hey plus 350 With Travis Hunter following them Travis Hunter three 50 for them to take a corner would be an interesting look for New England. Anything that jumped out there to you, Connor, while you're scrolling through. Yeah, we played Olaid plus 200 for the Jets first pick. Memo to the Jets is becoming like chalk right now in most mock drafts, which I don't fully disagree with. So we played a little bit there. I mean, again, if you missed disagree with. So we played a little bit there.

I mean, again, if you missed out on that number, maybe a little bit still plus 105. I think it's a little bit more open than that. But again, I don't mind it overall. I feel like a lot of these are just like, you know, pats a line. I would rather just play Campbell, to be honest, like we talked about earlier.

And then some of the other ones further down the board, I don't get as much into. I know you've played every year, basically, like a certain team pick a random position for like three to one four to one and I think you've done pretty well with those I think less Directionally correct there for me one interesting one Pittsburgh Steelers to take a running back seven to one that's been already mentioned Again, I think that's we could see the third running back. Oh there. I mean if Hampton's already gone I wouldn't be surprised to see a third running back. Oh, who knows? I mean, that's like, you know, it's in play Yeah

We see what other ones jump out. I'm looking at Chiefs Chiefs are right now even to take an offensive lineman the the I'll say this take a party. Well, the Chiefs fan base is convinced they're not taking line and the the the Team is on a big selling point on Joe Moore as a starter and then Kingsley Sumataya, who's the pick and left tackle last year's end of the second round moving into left guard. He did that week 18, that game, they benched all their starters. He's like the favorite right now, him and Norzad, who was another rookie last year,

to be the starters at left guard. They apparently feel very confident with that. So like Chiefs Office of Line feels like it makes a lot of sense because the trade of Jotuni, the question marks don't left tackle. You obviously add more, but it's a pretty small deal. And those were the way they lost Super Bowl last year with all the pressure up front.

But apparently the book is that they don't feel like they need to add somebody. At which point, right? Like you get defensive line two to one, they have lost so much talent on defensive line over the last couple of off seasons. Now, like that feels very viable and then corner at five to one, but that's such that they lose the Jerry's need. They didn't have success filling his outside spot and also moving

McDuffie from the slot to the outside. I don't think work super great for McDuffie. And now there's no more Justin Reed, which means it's a lot more harder. It's a lot harder for you to cover the slot because there's something we was able to do from the safety spot. So maybe they want to be able to play guys on the outside that was the ad at Christian Fulton, and then move McGovey in and out a little bit more. And so if Chiefs offensive line is not the case at plus 100 legit even odds, and obviously

there's value behind I just I this is one of those spots that happens every draft season where something to you feels extremely obvious as an analyst and then the team completely disagrees. You have to figure out, okay, are they selling the ability goods, right? Is the smoke screen or they actually like zigging where they should be zagging. So there's obviously money to be made there if that's the case. Yeah, that's a good call. That's one of the tougher ones. Those are, well, sometimes why you can find some value because they're further down the board. So, you know, obviously invites a little bit more variance for sure. The Niners are interesting to me. I mean, I don't disagree with offensive line and defensive line being the two priorities.

Offensive line just kind of been something they've pieced together fairly successfully, I guess, for the last couple of years in terms of overall investment. They've spent a lot of money elsewhere. It's really Nick Bosa and a bunch of like Jags at the defensive line or edge position. And that's kind of where they were, you know, made their hay. You know, obviously with those really good teams, you're being able to generate a ton of pressure, spend some money there and free agency. Also a team that feels like corner is a need for them as well.

It's four to one. I really like Renato LeGreen. I think he played well, but again, is a slot for them and you know, more of a nickel they can use obviously Lenore there as well. Do they see green as an outside option? And then otherwise just Trey Brown from Seattle. So that could be a spot where you can have one of the corners go at four to one I don't think is a bad price

speculatively. I think we've seen that mocked a little bit as well. So that feels like it probably should be a little closer to where offensive line and defensive line are. So that would be something that I would consider sprinkling on might do a little bit more homework on that, but that looks like a nice price. I like that one. That's a good call out there. I think I've been, I think I've mocked him a corner in every draft so far. So I'm in four to one solid look. Yeah, not a bad sprinkle. All right. What else you got, Connor? Anything before we wrap here? Appreciate Ben's time.

Yeah, no, I think that's about it. I think when we hit on the entire draft board here in less than an hour, so I think we did a great job. I even got a little Kenneth Grant in there. I got pooh-poohed by Ben, shot down. Kenneth Grant at 10 is unbelievable. I don't know. It was, it was, it was partially tongue in cheek. But I do think a good football team towards the tail of the draft is going to get him in like the late 20s and he's They're gonna be they're good. They're good for a reason. Yeah, so But anything else for us before we take off? Um

Nah man good Gino Smith is total deals three years 106 million dollars the total Sam Donald do is three years 105 million dollars Now Gino I think is a two-year commitment because the guarantee is same as a one-year commitment, but still, come on, come on Seattle. It's ridiculous. Funny how that all works out. Obviously, you probably already do follow Ben on Twitter, at Benjamin Solak. Obviously, lots of great content on ESPN, probably heard of it. Check your television. Look for that. You can find him there, different podcasts, doing lots of great I'm Ryan. We'll see y'all next time. Thanks everybody.