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Episode Date: April 16, 2025

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the the the the the the the the the How to take advantage of the group think how to bet against the group think or where the group thing is right Connor

What's going on, buddy? Yeah, not much Scott was dishing out some heat pre show, you know And we were like are we got to go live or something to get caught up talking about other stuff? But yeah, I mean there's all I think I was maybe it was I don't Drew Dinsick or someone's in one of our chats today Was like everything is so set right now that, you know, there will be a ton of value coming up because there's no way that it's actually the set. So like pushing back into group, think finding ways to get contrarian here.

There's a ton of things that we've kind of been hinting at and like playing and I've been dabbling with even today that we'll talk about that. I think there's, like, could be a ton of value. It could be like literally the favorites by draft day. Yeah. Got a bunch of those things on deck here today. Also, I always take heat for, you know, tech issues. It's just Conor's mic is like, like, in terms of like, if you're betting on why we're delayed, sometimes it could be me. It could also just be Conor's mic. I'm just saying, just putting that out there. So Scott, what's going on, buddy? Good man. Uh, look, these last couple of days,

I've really hammered down, been making some phone calls to some people that I trust within the industry and stuff and really starting to narrow down on where my convictions are within, you know, certain players, certain spots, certain teams and stuff like that. And, and like we talked about the group think, I think the mock draft industry and what you're seeing right now in this top 10 you're getting a lot of picks in players and team matches all kind of narrowing to where I think there's definitely some some value to be had there in the betting market right

now. Yeah, definitely want to unpack that today. I have some thoughts on the team guys do as well around positional drafted per team. Those markets are are full and out there everywhere. The gentleman had been also looking at a player over runners positional first trying to leverage anything that we could find out there. He's kind of touching on that here drew in the chat who are draft sources that you trust and don't trust. This is a really challenging conversation, right? So I feel like last year we ran into some trusted sources that missed, that had had a lot of success the years before. Personally, I would say I wouldn't paint anyone across the board.

I mean, I think Daniel Jeremiah is fantastic at what he does. A lot of professional folks that live and die with the draft are really good at what they do, but you get a lot of like team specific stuff, right? Like beats for their teams that can be plugged in versus national guys. live and die with the draft, um, are really good at what they do, but you get a lot of like team specific stuff, right? Like beats for their teams that can be plugged in versus, you know, national guys. Connor, is there, um, anything to add to that or anything that, you know, kind of poke holes in terms of trusted sources and how challenging that can obviously be at this time?

Yeah. I mean, I, I just generally try and listen to the biggest names and block out most of the other noise. A lot of these, especially a lot of this time, like certain people, you know, have been told in the last two weeks to make a mock that's different because it gets more clicks. Like that's a real thing in the industry. So like just because certain people are like, Oh, well this could happen. Like, yeah, I mean, I can make a case for basically anything happening, you know, still at this point out of the top, outside of the top three. Um,

but it's a matter of like, whether they're actually hearing things or they're doing it for content, how valuable like their sources are. So, you know, trying to weigh all that is really important. And then like to your point, Nune, I think our internal, you know, sources and things that we hear, you know, personally, when I value things the most, it's like someone tells me something. And then publicly that thing comes out in the next like week or so after that and starts kind of picking up a little bit of steam there because then it's usually there's a little bit more truth to it. It's really hard. I mean, there's very few cases

of where, you know, the someone we heard something that like no one else had heard. I mean, it's happened, but it's just way less rare and has gotten us into some hot water in the past. Yeah, happening less frequently. I think teams have been told basically to be really careful with some of the stuff that they get out there too. Just because of the betting element that's, you know, now I think becoming more and more popular.

Scott, I mean, obviously I know, you know, there's contacts that you have that you like to work, but I think you would kind of agree that it ends up being more team specific connections versus painting with a broad brush nationally. Yeah. I think one thing to keep in mind is that the draft and the information that comes out is so fluid at all point in times.

I think everybody can sit here and agree that Schefter is probably the most plugged in person they have. And you just look back within the last week or two and the information that he got might have been the proper information at the time that he reported, but it changes with a handful of other little things. So I mean, he pivoted real quick between Shador Sanders to Hunter and Carter, like within a period of a week. So you see things like that. But for me, it's people that are very tuned into their teams locally.

Sometimes I'll have some people that I might know. Like at one point in time, my cousin worked in the office for the Saints. So I would get news trickling out from the Saints organization because she worked in the office. So there's things like that that happen and connections for different people. Within the mock draft industry,

I think you look back at some of the people and some of the things that the people that do the best, and I'm not talking about the big names like Jeremiah and Schrager and some of the things that the people that do the best and I'm not talking about the big names like Jeremiah and You know Schrager and some of those guys But you've got some of the other guys that do consistently well within the mock draft industry I think they do a good job of parsing through information and being able to navigate through You know what's just out there and everybody repeating versus what's actual Intel that they can go ahead and parse through that relates to the team and

where they're set up, you know, positionally or, you know, whether it be salary cap or roster or whatnot. And I think you can go ahead and look at there's a handful of five to eight guys. I think within the mock draft industry that I trust. And, uh, we usually bounce, you know, ideas and information off of each other. Uh, Nick Grisco has been killing it this year. He's down here locally with me. We usually meet up every year, a couple of days before the draft,

and kind of parse through what we both think, what we both hear, and then just reach out and kind of do some things like that. So that's kind of like some of the things that I look for, coming in, trying to break down information this time of year. Yeah, you can also run into scout takes, right? Like, you know, actual football player takes, which is definitely relevant at another point, but not necessarily for the process of A, betting the draft, B, mocking the draft, you know, when you get into, you know, a Dane Bruegler, for instance, like, you know, the beast and all those, that is a fantastic resource for scouting, or you can look at it post draft when you see who your

team drafted, you want to kind of get a, you know, understanding of that player, in terms of actually forecasting the draft. You know, not necessarily, you know, a resource that I'm running to write this tremendous work. But again, you have to kind of remember the context in which the person is doing the work too. So yeah, the sourcing piece is definitely, definitely challenging. And I think probably continue to challenge here as things get a little bit tighter. So all right. We started the show pretty much feels like Cam Ward. Cam Ward's playing Fortnite, streaming, talking about his favorite running backs are Tony Pollard and Tajay Spears. And you can't wait to throw to, you know, Calvin Ridley, like A.G. Brown's not Calvin Ridley. And so it's definitely, we know what's going on in number one.

Draft starts at two, as we would say. And you know, whether it's two or the discussion around Shridoer Sanders, who definitely I feel like we feel less and less likely is going to, definitely feels like an important piece of the draft. So we can take it anyway. You can talk to your door Sanders Connor, or I'll kick it to you and let me, you know, you can explain to me what you think is kind of the first, you know, influx point here in the first round and where they kind of, you know,

dominoes start to fall. Scott was talking before we clicked more live, like everyone has that group thing in the top 10, one of those dominoes goes out of order. That's what happened to us last year. And all of a sudden it's miss, miss, miss, miss, because there's just a trickle down effect of how things kind of get wonky. Yeah, I think this top three here in my mind is pretty sad. I know there's been some rumors lately with the Giants taking like a last minute meeting

with Shudder Sanders. I believe that they're interested. I just am not sure that it's at third overall. I also, they also took like four other meetings like getting the last two days with like all the other quarterbacks, fringe quarterbacks. So I don't know, like I think that there's probably something there, but I would be pretty surprised at this point if they take Shudder Sanders or anyone, any quarterback at number three over Abdul Carter. So for me, I think that the draft kind of starts, you can start discussing things at four and even then like I feel pretty good about Will Campbell at fourth overall. It's from there. I think like you're kind of just piecing more

stuff together than like actual sources and like, like New England, I don't know, I've heard from like multiple different people. It seems like that has been their direction for a little bit now. Um, unless Carter or Hunter felt like that's the Domino that could really move things around. But at this point, like I just can't, I can't get there. Um, based on the current information that we have. So I think one, two, three, four for me is kind of locked in, at least will be for, for next week. And I'm trying to, I'm trying to avoid any of the noise of the shooter saying herself,

cause I think that's what it is right now, at least in my opinion. But I'm interested to hear if you guys think otherwise. the shooter standard stuff because I think that's what it is right now, at least in my opinion, but I'm interested to hear if you guys think otherwise. Yeah, I'm in total agreement as far as, uh, the, that top four kind of being locked in. I think Will Campbell is just a little bit safe. I think you can kind of project him. I think they'll start them off and play at left tackle.

And if, if it doesn't work at left tackle, I think he's going to be a pro bowl level guard for the next 10 years. And I think that safety and that floor is what they're kind of looking for, especially when they're trying to develop Drake May. So for me, even with the late stuff that's coming out with the Giants and Chador Sanders, I think that this is more of trying to gauge where they value him in the first, if they were to trade back in. I just feel like you have two really blue chip athletes and

players in Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter. And I don't think you passed that up. I don't think that the Giants are going to be contending for playoffs or even a Superbowl this year. And so you don't even know if the the front office is going to be there next year. I think you look at hard knocks, you know, from last year and, and I think the mayor was pretty pissed off with the way some of the things went down, especially like Barkley and some of the other stuff. And I think you look at that front office and they either need to play really good football and look like they're moving in the right direction for the coach and

the front office to keep their job. And I don't think taking Shador Sanders is gonna do that because then you just wasted a whole bunch of money playing, you know, James Winston and Russell Wilson. And so I don't think those guys preclude them from taking Sanders, but I don't think they take them there at three. So then with Sanders not going at three, the next step that we all talk about is kind of nine.

And I can tell you from the information that I have down here in New Orleans is that the saints aren't really interested in them at nine and that they're more likely to trade back into the first round to take a shot on Jackson Dart than they are to draft Shador Sanders at nine. Very interesting and again, right now odds wise New Orleans to draft a quarterback minus 130. So it's stunted out since the last time we spoke. So, it is, it's stented out since the last time we spoke. Massive opportunity to almost spray the board on Saints to take other positions because the next basic spots in terms of Saints, it is Defensive Lion Edge plus 750 on DraftKings. Corner is 9 to 1. Offensive line plus 950 on Fandl.

Wide receiver 12 to one. I know Connor early was on Ashton Gentry at a bigger price but you could still get running back all the way out at 12 to one and then we're even hearing that as an out for Tyler Warren if some of the other teams above him or above New Orleans don't take him that's also 12 to one. So there are some opportunities on the Saints right if quarterback is not the play that, you know, you can sprinkle across the board and, you know, almost orbit in a way, right? If it's correct, right. Cause it's not, you know, ARB is obviously a guaranteed win. There's no guarantee here.

But in terms of just the way you could price some stuff out, you could pretty much assure yourself a profit with the way you structured that. But, uh, carning well to take it, I mean, we're kind of pausing on Jags at five, um, in terms of what you guys are saying or assured again, probably hasn't been anything from like the jump that more so than Mason Graham fit the Jacksonville, um, is just something that people seem to be locked in on. Yeah, because like James Ladstone said like six times is like we need to, you know, work on the trenches.

We need to get this going. Like we need to like focus on the interior and Mason Graham fits that. You know, you also Gladstone came from the Rams where they've been involved with other defensive linemen either they traded up for Braden Fisk. Like they're they like it just seems like a fit on paper. Now that being said, like that's in my mind, that's all it is. Maybe there's other reporters have info that like is stemming like towards the gram as well But like at five I have a tough time putting in another than Mason Graham

You can make case remember you can make case for another office of lineman But right now I think Graham is pretty solid there But I mean if we want to jump to nine like I played a little bit of Warren I obviously a genti we played him like 20 to 1 or something in the discord a couple weeks ago If he doesn't go six, I think that's live now the question is like if it's not Warren and it's not Gentie like Who is it because like I feel like you're kind of we're kind of in this range of like I Don't know like it's kind of just your whatever flavor the team wants of O line D line

I don't know corner like you know that I'm just not super excited about a lot of these guys It's just kind of weird. It's not like oh, yeah This guy's here for sure is the pick whereas I feel like in years past that's kind of in the case Scott any like any Saints takes here because I've been betting Warren And I feel like that's not a bad look here at nine considering what if it's like no QB embedding Warren and I feel like that's not a bad look here at nine considering what if it's like no QB. So yeah, I've like actually talked with some people and went through this process of really trying to narrow down what the Saints are going to do.

Warren is very much liked. He would kind of be the leader in the clubhouse for me if a few other players were off. One of the things that I think you have to take into consideration is what Carolina is going to do there at eight and Jalen Walker has probably been the most mocked person to Carolina from the jump here. And, uh, you know, you, you look at some of the press conferences and some of the other things that have gone on.

I think Carolina is in a position where they'd be willing to move down. It wouldn't even surprise me to see if Jean T was on the board, Chicago to jump up one spot in front of New Orleans, just to grab Jean T to make sure. So if that were to happen, that would open up a player like Jalen Walker if he was on the board to be there for the Saints. And I think Jalen Walker's thought highly enough and would be valued enough by the Saints to where he could be an option. If a scenario like that played out.

The other two players that I've kind of heard is Kelvin Banks. I think they could go ahead and slot him in at left guard. And then Jehad Campbell has been getting some news here recently as a possible option. I think they like what he could do, being able to play off the edge and being a little bit of a hybrid player for them. The question is just whether or not those medicals are going to check out. He's got a little bit of knee issues from the past

that I think they're worried about. You look back at what happened with the right tackle that they drafted Ramchek a few years ago and how that kind of played out when he had degenerative knee issues and I think that can maybe scare them off of G. Hyde Campbell there at nine. But the Saints actually need, aside from top level talent, because they do need that, they actually need more draft picks. So I think they're another team.

If they didn't have the exact person that they wanted, I could see them maybe trading back a little bit and getting a player like a Mikael Williams, you know, in that 15, you know, kind of teen range there. That way they could have a little bit more capital to move back into the first round and take a player like Jackson Dart at quarterback. Jackson Dart is getting a lot of steam down here locally.

And I think that he's out of range there at nine. I don't think, I just think that's way too heavy and too heavy of a price for him. But I think the Saints are gonna be a team that I heavily suspect tries to move back into the first to get Jackson Dart. So like I said, I think Warren and Gentie would into the first to get Jackson Dart. So, um, like I said, I think Warren and Gentie would be kind of the top two options.

And I don't rule out a player like Jalen Walker if something happens and, and Carolina trades back or moves out of that spot. Trying to find some spots where teams, maybe we'd be trying. I mean, obviously I think this is a draft that we've all talked about it being flat where you're going to have a lot of teams wanting to trade back because a talent drop off after the top couple of picks, it's pretty sizable and it feels relatively flat for quite a while. And actually looking, you know, look at the last week, we've had 47 players mocked in the first round in at least two mock drafts.

So to Connor's point, you could have the one-offs where you could have some content splashes where it's like, all right, this is topical. I'm going to throw this guy in the first round. 47 guys have been in two. It's a lot. It's a lot of guys. So we're talking about group thing at the top. When you start to get down to the bottom in terms of team needs and guys that have profiled and having late first, early second profiles, 47 is a hell of a lot. And that definitely makes it pretty tricky. I mean, why is another reason that I think there are some opportunities, but teams I was trying to look at to think of, okay, why, or, you know, could they have based on their

draft needs or what they have available? Could they be looking to trade down? Atlanta is a little early at 15. was trying to look at and think of, okay, why, or, you know, could they have, based on their draft needs or what they have available, could they be looking to trade down? Atlanta is a little early at 15, but they have no third, they have no fifth and they have no sixth. And they have, I think a decent handful of needs. That's pretty challenging to only have that in the war chest for the, the day or for the week, I guess. Minnesota, four picks in the draft total. No second, fourth or seventh.

Seen as, I think, really good roster, but a handful of needs. They have guys that they've lost in free agency and some guys that may be expiring contracts or some different holes to fill for sure. That feels like a need. San Francisco is a team that could maybe look to maneuver. They have 11 picks in the draft. They have two threes, two fours, two fives, and three sevenths. That's a lot of picks. You typically don't have room for that many guys, so they'll probably do some wheeling the deal. And I don't know that they necessarily move up from 11. Bears also have two early seconds as well. So sitting at 10 and then two early seconds. So Chicago, know, Chicago, again, kind of scoff at it,

drafting a running back in the first round, pooh-poohed for years, training up to take a running back in the first round. Definitely problematic for some teams, but man, if they just say, Hey, this is the guy that we want, and we have some concerns, they do have some ammo to make it happen, which is I think pretty interesting too. So yeah, I was just stunned by looking at, you know, shout out to Vegas refund, you know, obviously his work in support VR go over to his Twitter, find his draft sheets, he compiles all sorts of great useful data for you there. As you know, if you hung out with us last year, yeah, he's got 47 guys tracks that have been mocked twice in the first round.

It's just a, just a lot. Just, I think it 47 guys tracks that have been mocked twice in the first round. It's just a, just a lot. Just, I think it's pretty interesting. So. I think that was a good point too about, so like Scott talks about like teams willing to move down and you brought up like, well, who would consider moving up? I'm just not sure that those necessarily like a line. Like I feel like there's a lot of teams in that, like post six range that are like, Oh, I would move down. Right. Because they probably have you guys in a similar category. Like who's moving up.

And like for who, like I'm sure it's possible. And those are questions that we couldn't possibly know the answer for to some extent. But like, there's no like blue chip wide outs. I mean, I know it's controversial, but by most accounts, there's no blue chip wide outs. There's, I mean, you're not likely not trading up that far for running back like maybe a tight end. I mean, yeah, here's the here's the honest piece of it, right? We all, especially quarterback, everyone sucks at evaluating quarterbacks, prospects in general, for the most part,

you know, it's just, it's a crap shoot. So if you've gone ahead and gone through the process internally and your team has identified a teardrop that the public doesn't see based off of public scouting, film watching, mock drafts, just cumulative information. But if someone internally feels that there's a clear difference between Will Johnson, Jahad Barron, and the rest of the corners, where they see a real clear teardrop with the edge rushers. You're like, you know, we think that this guy, we think Donovan as a rookie is the dude. And we want to make sure we solidify that that is going to happen. Right. We might not have, we're not privy to that from here.

There's nothing that would tell us that now, but like, Hey, I just, I think that, you know, Calvin banks, I can't stomach having the next, you know, offensive tackle. I think the rest of them are guards. Right. So those things are going to happen that we aren't going to be privy to, that there will be teams that want to trade. Solak was talking about that today in the chat that we're in. There's been a lot of trades in the last couple of drafts. I think at least like six, seven, eight trades in the last handful of years.

So it's always tricky. And I feel like this is the part of the year where we get really close, we think we know stuff, and then just show so much shifts in the week leading up to it. Right. I mean, like this time last year, there was no discussion about JJ McCarthy going inside the top three. And then we got lots of different sources talking about like JJ can be the picket too, like leading up to last year, which seems didn't line up with what we thought ahead of times and didn't end up happening. Right. So like, there's just a lot that's going to happen between, you know, now and next Thursday. So, you know, I agree with your general premise Connor from where we're at now, but you just kind of

never know. I think that when you look at this draft, you have so many players that either have production, but have off the field issues, especially within some of the defensive end and edge rushers. But then you have other players like G. Hi, Campbell, a little bit of the injury stuff. You've got Colston Loveland, who, but like hasn't worked out and been dealing with some of that. And so you've got a lot of question marks as far as like where you're going to trade up like we just talked about.

I think when it comes to Chador Sanders in particular, I think teams aren't going to have him within that top 10. But I think Atlanta is the spot that we kind of hit on. I think Atlanta's team needs and the lack of draft capital is a spot that would allow them to move down. And that's the spot that I think teams start to kind of look at Shador Sanders, is that around that 15 range to move up and, you know, possibly, you know possibly make a couple of moves ahead of Pittsburgh and there. So that's kind of the range that I think you start looking at a team to make a play.

And Shador Sanders is kind of the one player that comes to mind that makes the most sense that somebody might move up for. And it could even be the Giants or Cleveland or any other teams that pass on them there in the top couple of picks. And it could even be, you know, the Giants or Cleveland or, you know, any of the other teams that pass on them there and the top couple of picks. So I think that's where the plays start to happen. But we talked about the trades. I think we have under five trades in the first round this year, easily.

Yeah, over under I think we're looking at three is three and a half right now plus money on the over. So yeah, they're saying like basically two to three trades, which would be, I mean, tied for the lowest in the last couple of years for sure. I think we still should hit on like kind of that back. I know we touched on the Saints, we touched on a little bit of the Bears. I think there's some interesting stuff

with like the Raiders and the Jets here. Like some of my favorite, you know, long shots are actually pertaining to that like six through nine range. What would be on the Raiders? I know Ash and Gentie is popular mock draft pick there. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point.

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and obviously he was injured and stuff. But I just, I can't shake the feeling that they're not going to pick Gentie. And so I've kind of been trying to play with the, you know, the thought of, okay, well it's not Gentie who is it? Because it's like the saints argument that we talked about if Gentie is minus 150, like there has to be value somewhere if it's not him. So, um, earlier today I played some arm on bamboo there to go six overall.

I think you can still find greater than 10 to one. He can play right tackle, you play right guard. They have the left side of their line kind of filled out fairly well, but the right side I think is still very open. And again, building through the trenches very much Pete Carroll thing fits their MO still. Yes, their running back room sucks, but like, could they take a running back in the second round or a third round? Like this is a great running back class. So I think that could fit. We've talked about Will Johnson potentially. I didn't like that. He didn't test. Um, I mean, I've been kind of on like, Oh, well he's, you know,

play zone and the zone makes sense. I think there are some ties there. The whole Michigan tie makes sense. I'm just not sure if he's a good enough prospect to warrant taking it six overall. So, um, I've kind of backed off that a little bit. I think that it's probably one of those three players off. I had to guess. Yeah. I dug in deep on Will Johnson the last couple of days and look, when it comes down to Will Johnson, him not testing, I think is the biggest issue and you look back, he is taping 2024,

wasn't as good as what it was in 2023. And based upon the people that I trust that really break down and analyze these players, talents and fits for a team I just think that will Johnson has too many holes in his game and in his draft profile to be drafted at six The Raiders definitely go ahead and they need Some cornerback help you you look at that roster and there's no arguing at wide receiver or cornerback that they need help in both Of those two positions, but for will Johnson, you know and the person I think that rounded it out the best when it came down to it was Todd McShay.

And essentially what he said is a lot of these teams have him tested in the 455 range or to 46 as far as his speed. That he's elite when he can play off the ball with everything in front of him, but he's not gonna be able to run with some of these receivers like deep. And that's where I think his profile starts to get lost as far as being able to be valued in a top five, top six role. I just think some of the other players that are there and if it's not jaunty, I think the pivot ends up being at offensive line with member is the player

that I would kind of look there and maybe outside shot at Jalen Walker with, you know, the hype that he's gotten with his character and just turn on the tape and you can see, you know, the versatility he has in making plays. So those would kind of be the three players that I would round out for the Raiders would be Jean-Ti Nambou and then maybe a pivot to Jalen Walker. The Walker thing would be wild to me. Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask. the be Wilson a couple of years ago and they have Max Crosby. So maybe Max is going to retire to just be the GM at Central Michigan when they need to back load at defensive end, but it's the only good part of the team. They have a good quarterback now, a league average quarterback, but the Raiders taking one of these edge rushers would be, I'm not saying it's wrong or that Jaylen Walker shouldn't

be in consideration, but it would be very much a Raiders thing. It would be like, what the hell? Yeah. It's like, cause like they don't need him on the line. Right. So like he's, he would basically just be like an off-ball linebacker, right? Essentially. Isn't that like, which is, I mean, that's like, I mean, that's like, don't you run. Right. Yeah. Thousand percent. Like, so again, like, I don't know. I mean,

what are the odds of that even right now? Like we're looking at, let's see, your six overall, like, so the six overall, this is like exactly why I wanted to bring this up because we're looking at the current odds of this, which by the way, Unabated has an awesome draft board that I've been using a bunch, Unabated and Gambly. So Jalen Walker is the second favorite, that's plus 650, Will Johnson plus 750 MGM, Memboo is still, you know, 15 to one MGM, 10 to 1 DraftKings. I guess would Kelvin Banks even make sense?

I mean, that would be crazy. I don't know. I don't grind enough offensive line to know if that even hypothetically makes sense. But if it is offensive line, it's probably one of Banks or Manboo, right? It feels like it makes more sense. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Calvin banks is 40 to one. That's, I mean, that is maybe that's just like way too crazy, but like, I don't know. I mean, again, there's got to be valued on there somewhere. Like it's got to, there has to be value somewhere. Yeah. And part of it is why I like the positional stuff,

because then you don't even have to nail the player, right? You don't even have to get into like the teams parsing through the big board and understanding who they have positionally. Maybe at the top, to your point, in this six, seven, eight range, it maybe makes more sense to go player specific because we have more of an idea of what the consensus is of those guys. You get a little further down and you kind of identify a team being on a couple of different positions. I think the market's kind of blown some of the favorites up a little bit higher and I think there's some opportunity further down because it's also the variable of who's available, right?

Like some of these teams have like, you know, it's not like, hey, we're just going to take the next guy that position. We just have a different grade on this guy. We're not necessarily just falling in line and taking the next guy at that position. Like that's where you can get into some opportunities to buy. So positionally Raiders minus 120 on Caesars to draft a running back. Corner, which I also think is interesting, plus 420 on FanDuel. Again, back to the TET rumor, 12 to 1 for the Raiders to draft a wide receiver, which I'm throwing out there for you guys to

poo-poo TET. Or it could be golden for all you golden fans out there. You know, if you like just, you know, track to either. No, it's not. But again, we keep touching on that. I took a screenshot of that depth chart yesterday sent to you guys and it is it's just like it's laughable. It's not NFL caliber whatsoever. Their team sucks everywhere. So like, well, not everywhere. They actually like that's why Jalen Walker would be a crazy fit. Cause like, they actually have like a decent front seven in some capacity. So like, I mean, they need corner help. They need wide receiver help.

They need running back help. Some offensive line help. Um, like, yeah. So I don't know. I like, I think this is still a time where we can push back in some of the chalk. And I think the Raiders, the Raiders, the Saints. I think you wanted to touch on the Jets. The Jets often to draft an offensive lineman and you can get into some player specific stuff. An offensive line in the last week has been 73% of the mocks that VR has tracked. Minus 125 on DraftKings for the Jets to take an offensive

lineman. It's basically been, you know, Memboo more times than not. In your scenario, maybe there's a chance he's off the board and they pivot. We also have seen some tight ends, some Tyler Warren there. That's plus 330 on FanDuel. Should we land 125? Should that be higher considering the mock rate? Or is there another pivot there for you, Connor, on the Jets? Yeah,? Yeah I mean like I just haven't heard like there's a lot of like I don't know I guess like dot connecting with Warren I haven't personally heard anything about that so like him being the second favorite like I just don't know about that and like Mason Graham we're all expecting to go fifth so now we're down the board we're in kind of the range

of like Shiner Sanders they're not going to pick him seventh. Like that's, they made that pretty clear with the whole Josina Anderson, a team in the top seven came away shaken with, you know, that's like, oh, the infamous top seven. Like I wonder who she'd be referring to that she made it not top 10, just top seven. Um, Will Campbell is going to probably be gone. So now you're looking, I mean, you're already pretty far down the board at this point in terms of like the 20 to ones. So I think banks attend to one is an interesting play. I think, or just online straight up is okay. But like, if like Mason Graham falls there, I think he could be very, very, we'll all be the pick or you can even go further down the board. Like again, I think that this is like a range of like, there's a lot of group thing on online. I think it makes a

ton of sense, but I'm just not sure that Warren makes much sense and the way the board's falling, like there could be someone else. There's like a long shot. I'm just not, not sure who it could be yet. Yeah. I think the way that the board would fall and the person that's probably going to have the most value, I think there's a argument that could be had for Mason Graham to fall to the jets and for them to him to be the play.

Um, the jets have been heavily invested in top 30 visits towards defensive linemen. I think Mason Graham's one of the ones that has met with them. So I think whenever you actually, yeah, he has met with the Jets. So I think if you can get decent money on him, we just start talking about it. If things go a little bit wonky at five and six, I think he's the guy that I could see fitting in there with the Jets and, and being the type of culture player that they would want to go ahead and start to change some of that defense and locker room.

Plus seven 50 on fandel jets to draft a defensive lineman. I'm not sure specifically what the, um, gram number is. I didn't put that in my notes, but, um, yeah, I definitely think, we should either be hammering the minus 125 or leaning into some of these bigger plus money numbers that could just kind of a trickle down effect, right? You can almost build a betting portfolio that pivots off of those first couple of picks going a number of different ways, which I think is kind of smart, right? It can be lower stakes, can just be a little bit, just give yourself some outs. It can later end up just kind of being a hedge out for what you end up hitting for bigger stakes when you feel like you know more. You know, drafting for drafting for the NFL draft or betting on the NFL draft is a different beast

than other betting experiences, right? It is you're going to take some swings and lose a handful of bets. It's one of those things if someone's going to hang their win loss at the end of the day, depending on how they go about it, could have a losing record, but you could have a profitable return on investments, unit size, all those different things, depending on how you structure it. So it's definitely a trickier thing to tail, you know, just, just blindly, cause you're really recommend some losers just through the process, trying to get good, you know, good prices and shifting with the information that we have. And look, one of the things I don't mind is,

I think it's good to take a stance on a team, you know, being either player or position specific. But if the odds are right, there's nothing wrong with having like two pivot plays. If you're pretty sure that one thing's going to happen, but if one little thing changes, you're quite sure that the next two things will happen. There's nothing wrong with having three bets all in the same position. Yeah. All right. Maybe else in the top 10 for you guys, we can shift to a couple of the teams that are further down and feel their spots that kind of want to highlight.

I think the one thing that we kind of hit on a little bit earlier was with Carolina. Jalen Walker, I think is looking to go and I think the most likely outcome is for him to be there with Carolina. But if we if something happens and he's not there, the player that I'm hearing most for them is Tyler Warren. Um, you know, Tyler Warren, for whatever reason, uh, when it, we talked to analysts, he's one of the few blue chip players that, you know, across most scouts and most, most teams from what I'm hearing, um, is a player that, that teams will covet. And I think if they lose out and don't trade down or for whatever reason have to stick at eight and pick I think Tyler Warren could be an upset pick there at eight if Jalen Walker is off the board I tend to lean a little bit towards

Mikael Williams if they trade down further but don't be surprised if Tyler Warren's a name that you hear to Carolina on draft night. I will not be upset about that I have 25 to 1 Carolina to take Tyler Warren You can get currently 22 to 1 for Carolina to take a tight ends Connor Do you have Warren numbers live or anything? I took some 20 to 1. So what do we want to look at an eighth overall? Or do you want to look at Warren to team? I guess we'll look at both Let's see what's better because sometimes they it's crazy that they're not like the same odds But yeah, let's see here Warren. I'm seeing 17 to 1 still in Caesars

16 to 1 MGM 15 to 1 ESPN. So yeah, I mean Again, that's what yeah, that's what I do. It is Caesars 22 to one Carolina to take a tight end first To best bet that's pretty yeah, it's it's not bad like like you said just take take a couple of these stabs All it takes is one of them to pan out and Just because one thing, you know loses doesn't mean that the others are dead either, you know, like it's these if you knew about Michael Panics today of I mean you're talking about like you could you you'd be buying a boat right now you know or like you know right after so and that

was like 100 to 1 day before 50 to 1 day of um so you know some some pretty crazy stuff even JC Latham I don't think was was chalk um there was like some random late steam if I remember correctly that like came through and it was like Latham last minute Yeah, he kind of reminds me of banks. Honestly, that's what that kind of reminds me of is like Calvin banks You know that kind of been steaming up the board and then like I go probably go like early teens something like that You know, maybe 11 to 13 range then he just goes like sixth overall or seventh overall or something like that I got another one that I think is interesting just on that topic, spiral ear. You pretty much, you know, if you kind of were poking ahead and I was, I'm sure you

guys were as well, right? We, you know, it's the NFL season, we know so many things are going to change between, you know, say September and when we get here to April. But a lot of publications and Josh Simons is being a top 10 pick. I know there were some injury concerns. We got hurt in like week five or so thinking the Oregon game. Maybe there's some off the field discussions. But I think there are fewer concerns about his availability for week one.

And he started to take some visits in the range that are a little bit earlier than you would think. The culture, very interesting one in particular, whereas there seems to be group think around the Colts being, they're just going to take a tight end. Like I just, that's just what they're going to do. And they very well could, they very well could take a tight end. We can bet that what's the current tight end number plus 120 on Caesars. If it was so assured, I feel like it should be minus something, but it's not. You can take an offensive lineman plus 320. I don't know, they have Simons in for a visit.

That could be a second round pick. That doesn't seem like a guy that's trending to be available when the Colts are on the clock in the second round. But he's starting to take some visits in that like team range, which is pretty interesting to me. But again, this is just another spot where it's like, all right, we're the spots that everyone's jamming home the same position, same couple of guys. And how can we find some leverage against that because it just feels

like is that really what's keeping the Colts down is the fact that they don't have a better tight end than Mo Ali Cox like it's not it's not the problem right like obviously they have quarterback issues there's some other issues there as well but um definitely feels like a team that could address the interior of their offensive line or take some on the defensive side as well. I don't know. What are your thoughts, Connor? Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. It's like I've been mocking them close to Loveland, but I mean, it feels pretty fishy. I'm not going to lie. I think chalk anytime basically after the top three or five, it's's generally just not something I want to buy into too much unless like, yeah, unless like everything's matching up or it's the Pittsburgh

Steelers who like have, you know, been in the twenties and like, we know their pick like every single year without even like actually knowing anyone. Like it was just the mock, you know, consensus was actually what they picked. I don't know, Scott, you got any Colts takes, which I know that this is like Colts and Cowboys, I think in this range are both two of the most interesting teams. Yeah. I think the pushback that I have as you got any Colts takes, which I know that this is like Colts and Cowboys, I think in this range are both two of the most interesting teams. Yeah, I think the pushback that I have as far as the Colts is I think Ballard really tuned in to testing and having a complete, you know, profile as far as the combine and some other things. And some of the players that we we keep looking at in connection there with the Colts don't have

a full testing profile throughout this draft process. And and Simon's kind of being one of them. The player that I hear as far as that being connected as a dark horse play that would be Tyler Booker, the guard from Alabama, is a player that I hear that they like. The thing that I keep hearing, you know, you'll see Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland being there but Loveland's another one who's gonna have an incomplete draft profile as far as like some of the testing and stuff as well. So Booker is kind of my outside. I think they could go ahead and pair him there with Quentin Nelson and

have one of the best interior guard groups in the NFL with that being said. So I think his power and some of the things that he does would fit the way they wanna run the ball. So he would be the player that I would maybe look at some of the things that he does would fit the way they want to run the ball. So he would be the player that I would maybe look at ahead of Josh Simons. But I think when you start having players that are taking visits like there, I think teams are making contentions if they're going to pivot. If the option comes up to where they can pick up the draft capital they need or the players that they have within the top 12 to 14 picks are gone, who's a player that we can move back, pick up draft capital,

pivot that we still have a close enough grade on to another player that they were interested in. So as far as the Colts, that's kind of where I would look. And some of the other players that they have, some of these edge rushers and specifically Nick Manawari or whatever the safety, I think he's got the kind of profile that Ballard likes, um, in the secondary with his athleticism and stuff. I think Ballard very much drafts off of the relative athletic score kind of traits that players have. So those are kind of the players that I would look for and expect the Colts to be interested in.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't think safety is necessarily a pick for them early, but I could be, I could be wrong. Like, um, like what do we do with Booker though? Like 3.4, our four, four, four, but I could be, I could be wrong. Like, like what do we do with Booker though? Like 3.4, our four rats, like you think it's just like, I just think when it comes to, when it comes to Booker, I think it's his fit. I think it's his, his profile as far as like being a high floor player that, that with the power and the way that he blocks, in a way some teams are valuing him. I'm hearing that Booker is not gonna make it past the Texans

there. I think he's a player that they covet heavily. But as far as Booker to the Colts, I wouldn't say that he's their top priority, but if the players that they have valued ahead all get drafted, I think he would be a pivot point there, you know, among the offensive line that they would be interested in. Yeah, I think he would be a pivot point there, you know, among the offensive line that they would be interested in. Yeah. I think that's a good point too, is maybe like, we always say that they love Raz, which I think that, you know, they probably have some metrics that like align that way, you know, internally, but we don't know if these exact same formula. So maybe they value power more.

Like you really need your opposite guard running super fast downfield. Maybe not use any more power. Um, so like, I mean, it's like the whole like bears joke of like, you know, the analytics thing that they, the PowerPoint that they had where it was like 40 time was like the, they're full analytics, no speed, no weight adjusted height adjusted. It was just 40 time. And that's how you end up with, uh, you know, Kevin White as your like top pick, um, you know, whatever, whatever they drafted him. So, um, yeah, so like, that's an interesting point because we think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point.

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They signed Cam Byron to be like the, you know, deep free safety. I think Emma Warre would be fantastic for their scheme. Just doesn't feel like necessarily a need, but again, that's they have a better read on what they think of Nick Cross than I certainly do. Um, but he'd be, he'd be a lot of fun in that system for sure. So yeah, this whole range, right? 11 to San Francisco, uh, 12 to Dallas, 13 Miami, 14 Colts, I think is, uh, there's like some group think,

but I haven't done a lot of different outs here where they're, I think there's some opportunity. I think the there's like some group thing, but I think there's a lot of different outs here where there I think there's some opportunity. I think the Niners are another great example. We've pushed back on that a little bit. You were seeing a lot of you know, basically a mix and you know, offensive line is plus 190 on Caesars, defensive line or edge plus 265 and corner plus 310, which has gotten a little shorter So I'm gonna get another team that has that absolutely loaded with with picks

Scott even the current leans or feels on on San Francisco because I think obviously there's a trickle-down effect of what happens Just right behind them. Yeah, I think this is where you start to see Will Johnson kind of come into play I think he would fit with with the scheme, you know, as far as the way they run in the secondary. There's a lot of zone corners in this draft and not a lot of man corners. So that's one thing to kind of keep in mind. The two players, and you can maybe even throw three out here that I keep coming back to and hearing the most about is Will Johnson, Kelvin Banks, who I think would be a great fit for Shanahan playing in the garden, possibly being able to kick out to tackle if needed.

And then the outside one that I keep hearing is Walter Nolan, which I feel like Walter Nolan is a little bit high, but you can look back and this is a team that has drafted defensive linemen a little bit high and not necessarily like stuck to what everybody else thought the draft boards were going to be. So those are kind of the three places, but I think San Francisco could go a number of different directions. Um, if, if I had to lean right now, it would probably end up being towards Kelvin banks if he was on the board. Connor, any thoughts?

Yeah, that's where I'm at banks or Will Johnson. Um, so it's, you know, I think we talked about the last time, you know, it's Twitter rando season So lobs all day Twitter saying it's banks or will Johnson. I mean full trust. No, I'm just kidding I think I think all the reasons that Scott said it actually makes sense So yeah, I think I think how the banks gonna be gone that banks numbers like 13 and a 14 and a half like I think we've talked about banks at every pick from like 6 to 11 now and I think he's pretty much squarely in play at 11, probably in play at 13. But like, it just feels like he's not like I just don't know any of the teams. But I'm like, oh, this is their number one option. You know what I mean? Like, it always feels like it can be this guy or could be Kelvin Banks, you know, I mean, said like six times, but like, is that hit his under, you know what I mean? Like, or I can just play him like 10 to one to go seven. And you know, I don't know.

Maybe that's just a philosophical thing, but I'm not, I don't know, I keep talking to myself more into like the 13 and a half under, because also he opened at 24 and a half, and then it was 18 and a half, but it was like minus 150 at every move down. So I'm like, oh, is that really a good play bet? And I've been saying that now I'm at 13 and a half now I'm ready to bite.

So some fish I am, but I think it still could be a good play. So it could be a good play. I mean, this goes back to again, we can use it and see the range using, you know, a VR sheet. These guys are all going all over the place. Like Calvin Banks last week, anywhere between 11 and 31, like every single one of these guys, when you get outside of the top tier, like the range in where they're being projected

is just all over the place. So it's really, really hard to kind of just pinpoint, no one really has a tight band in terms of where they're going, right? Even Jed A. Brayron, who's kind of seems like he's falling a little bit, seemed like he was a discussion with Will Johnson to be corner one. That seems to be a little clearer.

Now it feels like it's more Will Johnson. There's more Will Johnson teams like, you know, Barron's now 11 to 27. Like that's just really, it makes it really hard to kind of find these spots. There's so many different outs Dallas Scott, before we, uh, you know, got about the 10 minutes or so to go Dallas. We were touching on before feels like, feels like an increasingly maybe wide receiver team and then feels like maybe we're getting some discussion of who they feel is the wide receiver to take that fits them better. Yeah.

So I reached out in the last two days to four or five people, a couple of which are in the Dallas area connected as far as the media and they were all five in contention, like I mean in agreement that they had Matthew Golden over Tet. The reason specifically that two of them gave that they don't even know each other and get the same reason was that they traded late last year for Mingo and you know Mingo had Cooper Rush throwing on the ball so I think they want to give Mingo a little bit of a spot to chance to be that bigger bodied receiver within that offense and add the speed of Matthew Golden on the outside.

They just seem to think that he would be a better fit with their offense and what they want to do. Um, so specifically, you know, it's a lot of people that I trust that you can go back and me laying on them has gotten me to be correct on a Dallas pick for I think the last three, three or four years. But it's golden right now. And as far as the people that I trust, they're heavily in the golden camp over Tet. And are we heavy on wide receiver being the preferred position? Yeah, the fallback that you tend to see and I just you can't really pinpoint a pick. You know, we talked about Calvin Banks and it's a little bit of a joke, but I don't see the running back position. I think they've added enough in the offseason at running back. I don't think

Amarion Hampton's a name that you've kind of heard floated up there. I don't see them moving up to get Jean-Tier or any of the other crazy rumors that you've kind of heard floated up there. I don't see them moving up to get Jean T or any of the other crazy rumors that you've heard. I think it's going to be wide receiver. I think they've pointed in that direction the entire time. So I fully expect it to be that. The only pivot points that I think would be, you can maybe see a cornerback or a edge rusher, but I just don't see it.

I think it's gonna be a wide receiver and I'm pretty heavily invested in it being golden, which I think we talked about. I think it's like plus 195 on the fan duel still. I actually played a little bit at plus 150, I think on Caesars earlier today. But I think there's value there to go ahead and play golden's first wide here off the board. Yeah. Maybe an ad to that Connor. Not too much. I know that you're a tech guy.

It seems like he's just been slowly falling. I mean, I'm, I don't know. I'm, I'm a team, buddy. Just one team. I played over 17 and a half. It was only available at Caesar'sars, but it was plus 170. You know, I, I, I'll go on out of the limb here. You know, here's my hot take of the hot take of the week. Typhus Millen does not go in the first round. Come on. Find a team for him. Find a team for him in the 20s the Packers greenback That's it. That's it chargers

Chargers we're gonna take Kenneth Grant or That way now don't do this to me. Don't don't bring Kenneth Grant and maybe Your boys against each other you only get to choose one. It is my world. You know, it's it's my rules that i'm making here. So one, it is my world, you know, it's my rules that I'm making here. So, um, the quick could make a running back. Um, I don't know. I mean, it's just like a lot of these teams just don't need big body, wider, potential wide receiver ones or potential Devante Parker's like it's one of the, one of the two, you know, he could be awesome. He could be Mike Evans. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Yeah. I,

I'm sure you can record that playback. Scott was talking about making clips before the show. That one can be played on repeat all off season when he goes like sixth overall and he's like a perennial all-pro. So. Oh man, if he was sixth through the time, I'm going to be really annoying for maybe just a week. Like I'll, I'll cap. No, you should be annoying for longer than that. We deserve it. I mean, I deserve it. I think publicly I'll be annoying for a week. With you'll, I'll cap it. You should be annoying for longer than that. We deserve it. I mean, I think publicly I'll be annoying for a week with you privately. I'd be annoying for a lot longer than that. Honestly, acceptable.

It's like, it's totally acceptable. Especially if it's six, right? Cause I, you know, it's the car repair tweet, that whole thing. Like, you know, we're, I'll be really, really annoying. So you bet it at all. I mean, I feel like you got to at least put like a dollar on it. Thousand percent. Yeah. Not%. Yeah. Not aggressively. Yeah. Oh, man. My boy Devante Parker. You know, Nana's still covering Parker out there in the retirement home. So you know, guy can't get open to save his life.

Here's the bad thing. I love the font a Parker coming out of Louisville. I do too. I know. Yeah, I mean, I thought it was gonna be awesome. I think she had some years. Let's be honest, did a couple of decent years. Um, Miami's on the team. It's pretty interesting. We have a ton of time to talk about all of Miami today, but there's some opportunities there. So I think a lot of moving parts, offensive line, I think is very, very viable. You're gonna move on from Jaylen Ramsey and you have Storm Duck and Cam Smith at corner. It gets pretty tricky real quick. That could be, you know,

another spot where you could see Baron or Will Johnson if he happens to fall kind of feels like the floor for Will Johnson, maybe at 13. But the team that could use, you know, they seem to like splash an edge rusher. You know, Miami is a very interesting team. Scott, do you have any Miami takes here real quick? Yeah, I think this is where Will Johnson starts to make sense. And it's one of those things where logically it just tends to line up with Will Johnson kind of dropping a little bit. I don't want to circle back to Kelvin Banks, but he would certainly be in the mix as well. I think it is Kenneth Grant is Calvin Banks. I think you really have to look at offensive line because I think when it comes to Miami,

I think the most important thing for this team to have any sort of success is to keep to a clean. And I think at some point in time, I think that's just going to have to be important because that offensive line, I think they spent the third least amount of money on their offensive line in the NFL. So at some point in time, if it's not, like I said, I would tend to go Will Johnson as my lead pick here. But if it's not him, I would tend to pivot to that offensive line. I think they need to do something to keep him too healthy. One other one I want to bring up based off of just some, you know, trends and looking at some stuff. We've seen a lot of I think really two positions for Detroit. It's a little harder, right?

Because we're further down. We're picking that 28th. You're seeing a lot of defensive line at Drusher and a lot of offensive line. And when you look, I think we've seen, I think increasingly more offensive line. Right now, at Edge rusher defensive line minus 180 to be the pick offensive line plus 220 for Detroit. Kevin Zeiler went to Tennessee. They have not a lot of holes, but they if they can plug in a guard on there some guards available. It could be some guards that are kind of in that range plus

220 for a team that feels like they're being mocked 5050. You maybe we get some information, but that feels mispriced. Again, if you're looking to just kind of sprinkle, play against what seems to be the consensus, plus 220 Detroit to take an offensive lineman feels like a bet worth making. So Connor, anything to add to that or anything before we wrap? Honestly, I think we covered most of the stuff I've done. You know, most of the work at the top here, I think that like the, the later picks,

I'll kind of like looking to start taking long shots. Like you're, like you were saying there with, that's not even a long shot, but I think it's a good, good look. I mean, as you get down the board, like no one knows, the Rams could pick a quarterback. They can pick, you know, a corner. Like we just have no idea who they're, who they're going to

pick. So I think leaning into some of the long shots that make sense can be fruitful if you hit a couple. Yeah. Eight to one for the Rams to take a quarter quarterback. It could be a nice shooter or Sanders spot to be honest. Get in the dome, get with McVeigh, you know, maybe Stafford just wants to play for one year. Yeah. But then McVeigh is going from a absolute, you know, rocket of an arm back to noodle

arm, you know, shooter Sanders like just reminiscing of Jared Goff there. I don't think he's a noodle arm, but I think he does have more. There's definitely more Jared Goff than Matthew Stafford. I'll give you that for sure. I think that's probably fair. So yeah, the other one is Houston. Everyone in the brother, I mean, it's like 87% offensive line, minus 225. So if that's correct, it should be way higher than minus 225.

And then we're hearing like, we're still having maybe that Ohio State connection and wide receiver, plus 410 on Fandl for them to take a wide receiver. And again, I don't necessarily think that they have a great offensive liner that they've addressed it, but they've been pretty active in free agency agency bringing in offensive linemen. You know, I don't know, it doesn't, it's not that it's not something that they need, but

it's not like a spot where I'm like, Oh man, what are they doing? They don't have like actual starters, right? Like Titus Howard's a first round pick from a couple of years ago at left guard. They brought in Cam Robinson to play left tackle. Unless they're drafting, no one's drafting a center in the first round, right? Jarrett Patterson, that feels like a need. Ju Scruggs, second round pick from 23. Blake Fisher, second round pick from last year.

They also brought in Trent Brown and Lakeland Tomlinson who are like vets that can probably play and be swing guys. So it's like, it doesn't jump out as a team that like is desperately, they have to take an offensive lineman, right? I think they had offensive line needs coming into the off season. I feel like Cameron Robinson helps kind of solidify and move pieces together. Now, again, they obviously moved on, um, you know, from other starters last year too, but like, it's a team that's has no tank Dell.

Um, for most of the season they brought in Christian Kirk, but I think a wide receiver makes sense at four 10, right? Well, they're wrong either way, right? It should either, if it's definitely an offensive lineman, it should be priced differently than minus two 20. And then I think we should probably have a different price on why receiving. That's all I'm saying. Look at these kinds of different spots.

I think there's some opportunities to kind of sprinkle here before you can kind of solidify some bets next week. Yeah. Just to piggyback off of that, Tony Pauline and his most one of his most recent spots reported that you know that Houston was very interested in a Mecca Buca. So I think there's enough there to sprinkle a little bit. 25 bucks, 100 bucks, right? What is that? I mean, that's just that's nothing. A couple of averages. Yeah, right. I mean, all of a sudden, you know, you just, you got a winner in the bag and you can use it for something else.

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