Move The Line - 2025 NFL Futures & Best Prop Bets!

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

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Hello and welcome to move the line presented by 4.4.com. I'm Ryan Noonan. Excited to get started. The NFL season is, it's here. I can feel it. It's palpable at this point. Connor and I are on the other side of our divisional previews. We just basically wanted to just empty the bags today.

What other kind of summation of our preview series, props, futures, anything that we have, really excited Connor what's going on with you yeah not a whole lot we're getting some comments here from the YouTubers new year still late from Dylan and Craig Smith did they cancel it we did not cancel the show you know for those who are familiar it seems like Dylan is we are notoriously late and to our like to get a little yappy before the show sometimes and forget uh forget the time but we're here we're live we'll get plenty of bets so don't worry we'll make out for it yeah gentlemen as our guest today even apologize at the start like hey the people are waiting I'm like, no, promise.

They are used to waiting. This is, it's not a bit. We don't do it intentionally, but things just happen. And, you know, my internet was a little laggy, so I'm going to own it here. But friend of the show, back, if you're familiar and you've hung out with us at all, this is, you know, probably our most common guest. That'll probably continue to be the case because we are huge fans of his work, a football analytics show, the power rang.com, the 2025 preview series, is this gentleman's daily

podcast series that's going to get you ready for anything football-wise grind in college football the NFL definitely need to check it out it is ed fang what's going on buddy hey guys thanks so much for having me and and you know if you're watching live it was definitely my fault i couldn't find the link i held everything up so my apologies no i'm going to take this one ed so but tell everyone what they can get um because again you're connor and i really stay on our side of the street here on the NFL side, you are definitely dabbling a little bit more on the college side as well and obviously doing a lot on the NFL side. What can users expect if they are to subscribe and listen to the football analytics show or ThepowerRank.com? Right, Ryan. I kind of

question my sanity every year trying to do both NFL and college football, but here I am with another year. I mean, at its core, you know, I use like PhD level math to create better numbers for college football in the NFL and that's how the power rank started it's kind of evolved more into the betting side of things and um you know members of my site can can get the bets that I make and then five no get Saturday I try to give bets but not only for me but from short people like you guys as well uh pretty sure you guys are probably the most commonly featured people in five nugget Saturday um but that comes out every Saturday at 10 a.m's a free service and then you know it's preseason and uh I really enjoy making content so

I did a daily podcast series on the football analytics show. Every episode is about 12 minutes. Hopefully it's very consumable. And cover topics like, well, I'm not high in Justin Herbert. Why, you know, a trend that I think is pretty interesting in betting NFL win totals, things like that. And hope you guys can get a lot out of that. Check it out at the football analytics show.

Yeah, definitely worth your time. If that is not part of your rotation, you were not subscribed to that show. I think you need to change that. And again, bangers on Saturday morning. Who doesn't want to open up their email to, you know, a bunch of bats, have a little coffee on a Saturday morning. We were sprinkling golf bets there in the summer. Like, like, you know, wasn't just football exclusive.

We were just trying to give you winners all the time. So definitely check out all the work from Ed. You know, again, follow him on Twitter at the power rank as well. Very loose in terms of format today. I like to have awesome. a tidy yeah like i like to kind of keep it tidy keep it organized it helps my brain kind of understand what we're doing here uh there's not what we have in store today you want to just kind of empty the clip here and i'm going to kick it to you first um

anything you want to take you want to take us on you know season long props you want to take it futures super bowl player level team level whatever you want to do um give us a take here for the 2025 NFL season right i mean Actually, my favorite take, and the one I actually feel pretty good about is the Pittsburgh Steelers. And I feel like this is this idea that Mike Tomlin's never had a losing season. And I feel like it is even prevented a lot of sharp people from going the under on this win total. I'm not one of them. We can start with the reasons why that I think there's a lot of context for Mike Tomlin and never having a losing season.

I think there's always going to be some good fortune. but he has a great organization behind him he's been there 18 years never had a losing season they only had four losing seasons the 18 seasons before that so that's going back through the bill cowher era and chuck knoll you know mike hollons had a better winning percentage in the regular season than the Steelers had the 18 years before that but he's also had the bulk of ben rothusberger as his quarterback and one of the things i've been looking at is uh one score games, right? So the typical data-driven person like me is going to tell you that this is supposed to progress to 500. So when you see a team that's done really well in one-score games,

they tend to do worse the next season. And in general, that's going to be true. But I think it's a little bit different with quarterbacks because I do think they can have an impact on those games. And this is why you see the Tom Brady's and the Peyton Mannings of the world at the top in terms of the record in one-score games. Tom Brady won two-thirds of his one-score games for the the, you know, for the duration of his career. And, you know, if you were to, if you were to bring back a 28-year-old Tom Brady, you would not say that his team is going to win half of his one-score games moving forward. So, Rathlisberger won about 63% of his one-score games over the course of his career.

Very solid, very good quarterback. In the three seasons, since he retired, they've actually done even better. They've done Brady-like in winning two out of every three of their one-score games with Kenny Pickett. and Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. So I think there's a lot of context in this idea that Mike Tomlin won't have a losing season. I'm not going to talk too much about Aaron Rogers. We also saw him play last year with the Jets. I'm not expecting much better.

They really did beef up the defensive side of the ball. They had a lot of big time free agents signings with Jalen Ramsey and a couple of other guys. And I think they made, and Darius Lay. And they made some, I think they're really good signings. these are really good players, but they're all really old. And they play a young man in the cornerback and in the secondary there. So I actually really believe the floor is pretty low for the Steelers team. I think we kind of saw that towards the end of the season.

If you remember, they sprinted out to that great start, and they just kind of collapsed heading in the playoffs. And there's this entire narrative that Pittsburgh and Baltimore must play a one-score game. and they kind of got obliterated in that playoff game. So I think the floor is low for the Steelers team. I like them under eight and a half wins. I think Tomlin has. I think clearly they can have a good season if a lot of things go right.

But I think the floor is pretty low on this team. Would you consider taking an alt under? Like so we have under seven or yeah, under seven and a half wins plus 155, under six and a half wins plus 270. I mean, like, is that, like, where is the four? I know you said you mentioned the floor is pretty low. Like, where do you think it can bottom out? Yeah, I haven't been any of the alts.

I really should because I really do think like, you know, I mean, just imagine if T.J. Walk gets hurt, right? And Slay and Ramsey aren't that good. It could be bad. I don't know. Under six and a half sounds pretty good. I'll probably go about that. I haven't yet, but I will.

I think the alt is definitely the way. it is sorry is an avenue to go in in betting on the Steelers team yeah just in general right connor like you know all sorry if you have a strong stance on the win total knowing the inefficiency of the markets historically over the last handful of years you should probably take a swing you know a little bit more aggressively right you're talking about a bottom you know scenario so you know that that's telling me six seven wins definitely within the range of outcomes for you i think that's probably the right way to chase it right Connor i think you probably agree with Yeah, and I think, I don't know if it was maybe, I think whalecapper did some research on it.

I think Deep Value Better did some research on like the volatility of wind totals. The majority of them fall within or outside of the range of like two games of their win total either way. So you're much better off playing like an alt. And I can send you that research after. I don't have the exact numbers on hand, but it was like staggeringly high number of wind totals fell outside of like two games last year specifically. And then I know I think it was, I think it was whale or someone else did research that like for like five, ten years prior. and it was pretty similar. So, yeah, I mean, which makes sense.

Like, obviously if a quarterback gets injured, like they're going to fall, like, way below their win total. And if they hit their ceiling, like, that could, you know, also be way more than, you know, an eight or nine win team. So I think that that makes sense. And I don't know, the alts are kind of fun, especially now that we have more information on some of these teams. I think we made some bets early in the year.

And I feel like there's two teams that I'm like kind of zeroing in on of like, okay, these teams could be like a bottom three team and win like three to four games this year. do you think the Steelers are one of those teams? I don't think they're that bad. I think that they're probably more like a, I think the floor is more like a six, six win thing would probably require like an Aaron Rogers

meltdown, which is not that crazy, or just another Achilles pop, who knows? Like, well, something like that. And I think that they could probably get like five, six games, but otherwise I think they're more of like a seven, eight win team. But, you know, again, I like Ed's analysis there.

Yeah. I think there's some insulation built in because I think that defense is actually, I think it could be really. really good. I think they have, like, unique depth. Like, you could make the case that they might have the best edge duo in league, which is really something to say because, right? But then once behind it, like Nick Herbig has been really good the last couple of years when he's had to fill in for both of them, Alex Highsmith and T.J. Wad, who have gone

down, you know, Ramsey in the slot at this point in his career, kind of like versus Ramsey in the perimeter. Now, you know, if something happens with Darius Slay, like they can be a little bit thinner. I like the safety group still. I like the linebacker room. It's just a lot hinges on a 42-year-old quarterback who's, you know, we're kind of, we're in rarefied air in terms of, you know, the historical sample of guys that have done it plus 40 and that 42. It's one dude. And so, you know, coming off of an Achilles a couple years ago still removed from that. Again, we've continued to harp on that secondary movement for Rogers, which is such a big part of, you know, his MVP career just doesn't seem to have it anymore.

So protected pocket Rogers, I think it'd be okay. But yeah, I mean, I think there is some volatility there. And I think adds, I think your point at the top is just like this. Every type of like Steelers analysis has to be like the caveat of like, hey, Tomlin never loses, right? It just is like it's built into the analysis. Like you almost. It's built in.

Yeah. And I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to deny that there's some signal there. Right. like I do think I mean it's 18 years but I think when you put it in the context of the organization it's like okay well yeah there's signal there but let's let's not to make make too much of it let's focus on the players that he has this year and do our analysis from there yeah I can't let an opportunity go without mentioning Peyton Wilson again um sorry he's going to put that out there this kid is going to be an amazing linebacker for as long as he can hold up again not

playing with knee ligaments in one of his knees seems to be bad for the long-term length of his career. But while he's out there, he's going to be, I think, pretty special player. Connor, what do you got? Yeah, we're talking about teams with downside outcomes. So I'm just going to go straight there. And I got two of them. But I think one that the market has not really fully come around on yet is, and this is a team,

this is full circle. I think this is the first team that I made a bet on in the off season, the first team we talked about in our futures show like in, I don't even know, June, May. something like that. It's the New York Jets. The vibes around this offense have been so, so bad. Just like Justin Fields went two of 12 today and couldn't complete passes. And this is exactly what we talked about like in the preseason is that this team has just catastrophic downside offensively. They're going to try and run the ball. If they fall behind, it's going to be Justin Fields throwing the ball. And for, you know, everyone likes to say that Justin Fields is like, he's fun, he is upside and

like he scores a lot of fantasy points. He does. Like he scores. he can throw reasonably well. He run a lot, which is fun for Alt. His record prior to last year of the Steelers was 10 and 28 as a starter. I mean, unbelievably bad. He'd already led a team, multiple teams, having like top three to four picks. And now he's on the New York Jets.

They have a new office of coordinator. Their office of line is expected to be fine at best. They have no depth outside of Garrett Wilson. Like a rookie tight end is probably their number two target this year in Mason Taylor. Their defense, I think is way more questionable than what people give him credit for on paper i think they're a good unit probably but like they were really bad after robert sol left they were bottom five and EPA per play and and success rate and everything like everything basically they were they were not a good unit and so if this defense has sneaky downside like

they're they're really in trouble because if you need just and field's hero ball i mean this team is going to lose i don't know 12 13 14 games so i think that like this is going to be a crazy bad team potentially um unless they're able to just ground and pound and their defense play as well That's, like, the only upside outcome, and that's like a six, seven win team at best. So I think under the win total is interesting. I think alt-under is interesting. Under three and a half wins is plus 450. They're favorite in two games this year.

Carolina and Cleveland, I think they're worse than Carolina. I think Carolina could beat them by a lot if their offense clicks. Cleveland, we'll see how the quarterback situation pans out. If Flacco is playing well, I think they're a comparable, if not better team because their defense, I think Cleveland's defense is significant. better and if they get any quarterback play or anything any juice offensively they're better so like i just don't see a whole lot of wins on their schedule and their offense is shaping up to be really bad so i think some downside jets outcomes are are pretty interesting camp reports have not

been good at any uh jet stakes yeah i think we have this idea that garrett wilson is the star in the NFL i kind of don't see it i mean there there's uh i don't remember the specifics but i talked about this in the episode of my preview series. Like a lot of his numbers have kind of declined over the years, you know, his yards per outrun is not elite. And, you know, you can kind of make the case that he hasn't had the best quarterbacks throwing to him. And that's certainly, that's certainly true.

But, you know, you've seen guys like DJ Moore, like, have pretty decent yards per outrun, even with, with some pretty bad quarterbacks. So, like, I'm just not, like, he's going to get targeted. He's going to be great for fantasy. He's going to score some touchdowns. But he's not, in my mind, like, he doesn't seem like the kind of player that can carry an offense, you know, but he's just not elite in my mind. Yeah, good offensive line.

He's good one, I think, but they want to shorten games, right? They want to, like, just get that defense on the field to try to win through turnovers and create that way. But limit, I think, his dropbacks to 20 a game. And that's just, it's a tough recipe in this, this NFL, um, as we. stand here so yeah i think the only thing that worries me is that i think there's a for i guess i'll transition to one of mine here um stay in the division i'm going to go under seven and a half wins of the miami dolphins i think there's a real floor on the dolphins just let's pretend that we get a full season of two right which i don't think we should any of us should feel really good about

without him that becomes a real problem this is a below average generously offensive line or like a playmaker there I guess best playmaker at this point you would think would be Devani chain who has question marks like a real concern about calf injuries at this point like and maybe it's just an NBA trend in my mind where you like you see these calf strains that are leaning to Achilles stairs at a pretty high rate I get a little nervous about calf strains these days and how that could like just be you know basically assigned to bigger injuries down the road like I'm not saying that 18's about to blow his ACL, but I feel a lot better about him if you didn't have a cap strain

at the end of the season, right? And they are really counting on him to be a difference maker. And then we're not even talking about the defense. I mean, this is the worst secondary in the league, by far the worst cornerback room in the league. And you just, again, they have a decent pass rush. They got a lot of bodies up front. They can probably muck up some games that they're not supposed to, almost like the giants in a way, because the pass rush is so strong and they can maybe just stay competitive in some spots they're not supposed to, but, man, it's not a bet that I want to make long term is a really fragile quarterback and the worst secondary in the league. So just because there's a situation where maybe those Jets' Dolphins games

are without Tua, maybe those are Zach Wilson games. It makes me a little less confident in Miami holding up there into the bargain there. But I think the downside is there for both of those teams. So kind of agree with Connor and the Jets, but I think the dolphins could be, you know, a four or five-win football team. I mean, plus 500 on under four and a half wins, plus 270 under five and F wins. I do agree that that downside is massive. We already saw some of the downside too of like two is out and this team is just toast. Like Mike McDaniels has not been able to make anything else work.

And I don't have exact Wilson's answer like you said. So and like there's a whole Tyreek situation. Like, you know, that's a whole other layer of Antonio Brown adjacent stuff going on there. so yeah like here's the here's the future it's the jets win two games three games and the dolphins also win three games and they have to like they have a tiebreaker for the number one pick that's uh that's i don't know how it'll happen but it'll happen yeah and you're going to profit off of it immensely maybe they'll tie they'll tie twice that'll be perfect yeah i do think there's a world in which this miami offense can be good uh to a stays healthy sure macanel figure something out you do

have some talent at the skill position receivers i kind of wrote down i i completely agree with you about their defense i kind of wrote down over team um you know particularly at the beginning of the season i mean i'm not going to just go blindly bet they're over week one but definitely something i'm kind of uh yeah definitely something i'm looking at for that miami team and then i also want to point out that we all gave out and under uh for a team win total i went back and looked at somewhat closing NFL win totals. I mean, I have all this data from doing market ratings based on market win totals. And I have data in college and pros for years. So eight years. And if you just bet the under on every single NFL win total, you'd be up about 10 units, which you're not going to get rich

off of that, right? I mean, that's like a unit a year. But it certainly is a trend, even at sharp sports books like i mean the data's from circa the last couple of seasons uh there's some bookmaker from like 2018 to to whenever so um yeah you're certainly better off betting the under just trends wise and i don't make too much out of trends but i think i think that is something that is worth considering and obviously don't just bet every single under because of that but um it's also interesting that it's not it's also um it also works at both extremes uh you know so if you're if you're you're looking at teams with 10 and a half or more wins or 6 so but you bet the under on those and and that kind of makes sense right you're kind of expecting regression to the mean and NFL salary cap lead but you would kind of think that maybe you know the over would be profitable on teams with six and a half or fewer win totals but that's actually not the case uh it's actually profitable there too plus units um so Makes sense. That's great. Great research. It's exactly what we do with like the season long player prop stuff too. It's like we say, you know, like the trends are like that under is basically print, you know, 60%ish.

doesn't mean you should probably blindly bet them but like it just gives you an extra edge like you know like okay I'm betting like the sharper side of the market here probably um blindly like you know again even if none of your analysis pans out right you can get you can you're like more likely to luck box into a win here than you know a loss based on historical results so um Connor have you thought about like taking the category of player props that most hits the under doing a little bit of light research and then just round robin the heck out of it on one of these sites i've thought about it i mean limits are pretty bad to round robin with to be honest like i mean we're talking about like like most of round robins that i'll do like for this show and stuff talking like i don't even know two bucks something like

that like it's like five bucks like it's even then usually fanduel will like block me out sometimes randomly they'll just pick oh error not accepted or something like that draft things have no chance i can't even bet a single round robin so so you need a fresh account yeah yeah hypothetically i think it's a great idea. It's like, just pick my 10, I don't even know, 15 favorite and just round robin the whole thing. The whole thing. Yeah. The whole thing. Yeah. The whole thing. Exactly. And just see what happened. Yeah. I mean, I don't think you should bond bet every single under. So what category of under was, I know there was one particular bet where the under hit the most, right? From your analysis. I'm pretty sure it's QB passing yards, if I remember correctly

for like the last three years. I'm on finder. Oh, yeah. Because like two thirds of one third of the quarterbacks that start the season are going to get hurt right so yeah exactly and then you know you can even have like good quarterbacks like a lamar just go under because he's never throwing the ball because they're winning all the time right like i'm sure it hurts went or went under his yardage hole just because he never threw the ball last year oh exactly yeah there's just so many outs they're passing it's under yeah yeah yeah it makes sense because i mean i would draw one injury it's not necessarily a one week injury right ed like it could be you know to your point they're They miss a ton of time on average over a pretty large sample,

but it's not always just, oh, they were out for a game. Like sometimes these are multiple week injuries. Now you're really, you're really working uphill to chasing over. So here we go. Here's the, here's the, from passing yard unders, the last four years. And this is all the data that I can get. It was like based on, you know, whatever. Like, it was a decent sample.

I mean, we're over a thousand props total that I've collected over four years. Not on this category, but this category, passing yard unders are 2021, 78%, 2022, 71%, 23, 64%, 2024, 67%, 69% of the last four years of passing yard under SIPCO, passing yard props have gone under. And I started taking the high and the lowest number available at any time. So, like, those were, I think, the highest, but obviously you're going to shop around and, you know, look for that. So, like, the lowest, I think we're around like 59%, 60%, so like still really strong.

Read the room, Jeff. Like, we're talking about, you know, quarterback unders. he comes in with the drakemaid well all i do support the drake may play but i'm just saying it was pretty funny what if they run the ball a tonne that's my that's the problem that they can be super run it's probably light i mean to be fair it's probably pretty it's pretty light um i mean it's prop week one is like 210 yards we talked about right yeah are you playing there's i would never tell you i was i to say it's not going to be an official play i don't think is it you're just going to bet it um for fun i want as much drake may exposure as i can get uh

rushing yards, passing yards, week one at home against the Raiders. I think you see, I think they play up in pace this year with Josh back as the O.C. Yeah, I'm interested in pro, you know, pro Drake May propaganda. I'm carrying the torch for sure. So it's a good spot, week one. You want to name me a starting cornerback for the Raiders? I got nothing. Correct.

No, they got one of the dudes from the Packers, right? Eric Stokes, who is really struggled, yeah, to stay on the field. And been the field for week one, hopefully you can get himself there. But, yeah, Darien Porter, I believe a rookie is getting to start. But Stokes has been, like, decent when he's been on the field. Yeah. Yeah. And he's not hurt as much as Jaira Alexander, so, you know, it was like an asset for the Packers.

No, it's true. It's true. What else you got, Ed? Should we kick it to the props a little bit? Sure. So I don't know. So I probably got my head a little bit inflated from hitting on Baker-Mayfield the league in interceptions last year, 16-1.

It was in Five Nugget Saturday. You know, only paid out 8 to 1 because he tied Kirk Cousins, but still a nice little win there. I started looking at it a little bit more this year. And, you know, Jalen Hertz, you know, we kind of think of like, yeah, someone does something for three seasons. Like, that's good, right? Like, that's a pretty big sample size. And I keep finding these quarterbacks that have had extended luck in terms of their, in terms of their interception numbers.

So just so some of my work with interceptions is that, you know, interception rate in and of itself is not good at predicting. intercepting rate going forward. I tend to look at a bigger set of plays. So I look at interceptions and passes defended. And these are all the plays in which defense gets a hand on the ball. And so the sum of interceptions and passes defended are essentially all the times that a quarterback puts the ball in a dangerous situation. And so I use that to figure out, you know, interception rate moving forward. And Jalen Hertz is one of these interesting ones that, you know, he's been about NFL average and not putting the ball in dangerous situations but he's been pretty good at not throwing picks so he's had an interception rate of 1.7 percent and so and then you know

his bad ball rate or the rate of which he puts it in in dangerous situations is 11.6 percent so that's pretty close to the NFL average of 12.1 so just to put that in perspective like if you really wanted to sustain something like that you'd have to be like Tom Brady over his last four years He had about a 1.7% interception rate. He had a bad ball rate of 9%. So significantly lower. And Brady's obviously the best to ever do it. And what the analysis suggests is that Jalen Hertz is about NFL average at throwing

interceptions this year. And so if you have a quarterback that's about NFL average to throw interceptions and you assume that he plays the whole season, he should be roughly about like 20 to 1 to lead the league. in interceptions. Right now in Fanduil, you can get it at 61. It's a nice little long shot sprinkle that I definitely like. It's just he's been, so quarterbacks control how often they put the football in a dangerous situation. Once they put it in a dangerous situation, they really have no control over whether it turns into an interception. And Jalen Hertz has been

kind of pretty lucky over the last three seasons and not having a lot of those balls turn into interceptions that certainly could change he's certainly not a player that's going to get benched so i don't worry about that he's going to play through injuries um so if you get he i think you could be near uh it's a sprinkle that i certainly like for this upcoming season i like it i like the way you presented that too i like the thought process of quarterback controls you know basically what they can control but once it's in a dangerous situation it's almost like when i think of like sacks right when I'm betting season long sacks it's the same same premise right the defensive lineman controls how often he beats the guy in front of him um in terms of

his ability to actually convert the sack or does he run the guy into one of his teammates who just happen to be there um yeah so that's definitely a little bit of variance i like that uh connor what do you got yeah it's the exact same idea ride for like defensive players uh you want to look at pressure rate because like the ratio of sacks the pressures is pretty random um What's actually interesting is that, like, that's actually not true for quarterbacks. They actually have some control over that, that sack to pressure rate, which is for sure. Super interesting. I mean, you know, like it's, yeah, quarterbacks control so much.

But yeah, but for the defense player, the exact same idea here. Yeah, John McRey at PFF does some of their fantasy stuff, did, you know, just some regression reporting and looking at it, too. The thing that's least correlated with future sacks was previously. here sacks like it's you know there's so many other indicators that are uh better at protecting sacks so um and i'm sure that probably makes sense with with picks too uh carter expanding on uh hurts and adds take there and then uh anything else you want to share yeah i think you probably need a little more volume to get there but if you gets volume i think we've talked about all the time is like this eagles team uh you know hurts is just such a he's such a good play from in front

quarterback right now and like that team is so built to play from ahead that you give him like a little bit more adversity and you know put him from behind or like any just even more closer games like he didn't throw the ball at all all in the second half last year so like you get him passing a little bit more and I think he'll be putting the ball even into more dangerous situations and like uh I think that's probably what you need is like either that or like I don't know maybe a Saquan injury or something like that you're like and then then you're but then you're squarely in play and so I think either of those is very possible so you have 60 to 1 is a pretty fun price that's a good number i haven't looked at it but i'm pretty sure his like pass attempts per game was like at a

career low last year right obviously with dominance of berkeley i don't think a lot of those things are sustainable that doesn't mean i'm not saying he definitely gets enough attempts to lead the league in picks but uh i definitely think last year was an outlier in terms of his volume of throwing sometimes when i look at that market in my head and that that guy also has a risk of being benched and i don't think that's the situation here either right so i think that's another kind of feathering his cap on the play yeah i think yeah for sure yeah i mean i feel like you know if you were looking at this last year you know will levis would have been your best bet to lead the league in interceptions except you had one big problem

he's probably getting benched right yeah so um but yeah no exactly exactly the type of analysis that that's needed yep no 100 percent uh jeff asked a good question here he said who's going to be our next negative correlation god the way jameson was for us i don't think jameson is that guy anymore maybe darius slayton uh and that can be a fun one with russell wilson moon balls like an under two and a half receptions 60 yards something like that like that could be a real fun one there because he's probably going to see i don't know three four targets the whole game and they're probably going to be 30 to 40 yards downfield so um i'm i'm excited about that one potentially nothing else too much comes in mind maybe some of the rookies that are like

still kind of rotating in maybe like a tray harris maybe uh jaden higgins something like that where maybe the books kind of overinflate some of their receiving props but they're only going to be running like 10 15 routes a game probably to start so that's where my mind goes so i don't know new to read if you have any other like ones off the top there go ahead yeah i mean i think ryan and i talked about this like alec pierce oh yeah not with daniel jones throwing to him but, you know, when Anthony Richardson inevitably gets on the field this year. Can't wait? I don't know.

I mean, I think he will get on the field this year. I do, for sure. And then, you know, is he going to be chucking it deep like he was last year? I mean, maybe that's getting coached out of him, which is not unreasonable. But, you know, Alex Pierce's kind of, you know, the air yards that he commands, and then not a ton of targets. and then, you know, just a lot of like, you know, I looked at some measures of explosiveness and he was pretty high on that. Yeah, Rashad Bateman jumps to mind too.

I love the slant call, but Bateman is the same premise, you know, kind of a low volume wide receiver two is going to be on the field a decent amount but not going to command a huge target share. And then there's some, you know, after the catch abilities here and just a higher than average a dot. So there's a, you know, a couple of, I love the slant call. You know I love the slain call for sure. so yeah love it how much how much do you think dandre hopkins plays like i think that could maybe even

further like help bateman because hopkins probably not going to catch the ball too far down field you know it's like maybe 15 yards and in probably um so he's he's our under correlated play right he's the uh you know over two and a half catches you know under 26 and a half yards or whatever it is like right you can't sealing those unfortunately which you know limits the price you know it's more fun to take the, you know, the JMO side of it where you can, you know, ramp up the yards. But, you know, those are also fun to cash. Yeah, for sure. I know, I think you have a Sladen prop, right? I don't know. I'll let you go since I already talked about it. Well, Sears is the only book that has it. I put, I send out a few plays this morning for four

four subscribers that I, you know, couldn't make official. Not because I didn't want to stand behind them strongly, but just because there were limited outs. No one, I mean, I've been waiting for a month. We did a preview show with Pat Mayo. you know about a month ago and i wanted to talk about that one on the mayo show but then was waiting for a fan duel or someone else to get in but seizures has slaten at 500 and a half receiving yards for the season um which he has topped in five of his six career seasons just signed a three-year deal and fits the moonball archetype that fits with russ and i think we've seen i think some encouraging stuff in the preseason from jackson dart he's not the first rookie that's popped a little bit

in the preseason. But at the same time, I feel at least like he's going to be aggressive when he gets in there. I feel like it's a team that's going to be in, you know, some negative game scripts that's going to have to create some explosive big plays. So, you know, Slayton, again, I expect him to be out there a ton. $500 is a really low bar for him. Again, I think he's topped 720 in four of the six years. So it's just not a really high rate for him to get there.

Again, only on Seizers, but, you know, over 500 and a half receiving yards, I think is a good look for him. down there. Yeah, it's a fun of a lot like that. Sorry, go for it. Wait, are you allowed to like it over? Connor? Is that allowed to show? Here's what's happening. He will like them. He'll give me a stamp on approval. He's never going to actually bet it with his own money. And I'll accept that. That's progress. And that's fair. It's okay. I don't need them to like, I don't need them to stake it. I just sometimes I like to throw him out there, take his temperature on him. Um, and you know, if I get a stamp of approval, it means he likes it a lot. He likes it

little bit. It's also mostly like a just making sure that I'm not betting the under and it's like one of my crazy under is that there's just like some small like thing that I'm like oh you know someone told me that this guy is like tweaked his left calf in practice yesterday and like oh he can't play anymore actually. It's just total dust. So yeah, no, it's like I don't really bet that many season long overs. I think I have zero in the bet slip actually right now outside of I did take some alts. And that's I think you're a good transition. I got some alt overs. I think those are possible if you're going to play it um chase brown 1250 rushing yards i think is a really interesting one um that's like i mean he's going to see all the work they cut zach moss taj brooks has basically had no work

with the team like i think he's going to play a ton the only risk is that he might suck or he'd be inefficient like i don't think he really is all that good to be honest but he's going to see a lot of work on the best or one of the most high scoring offenses in the NFL so um i mean he's going to have a ton of yards i would not be surprised he approaches like i don't know 17 1,600, 1,600 all-purpose yards, probably, something like that. So I think that's very much an range of outcomes for Chase Brown this season. Also, he was a workhorse of Illinois, 318 carries his final season. So everyone kind of projected him as like scat back in the NFL, and that's just not true.

Like, he's built, you know, built thick. He can, he can handle it. So 1,250 rushing yards, I think is pretty interesting. And then another alt that I think I talk about in every show I go on, and I'm just going to keep betting it and the price is going to keep going down. Dak Prescott, 4,500 plus passing yards. I just can't get enough. it's down to plus 350 we got in at like six to one i think um but i still like it like

i think there's i bet dack to the league in passing dac 4500 plus passing yards um and you add when you add george pickens when you still have cd lamb jake ferguson's healthy and you have your running back room consists of it hurt miles sanders javanti williams and then i hurt jaden blue like you're not able to throw on the ball you're going to be throwing the ball 35 plus times a game and you're throwing two of the best receivers in the NFL. Like, I mean, they're two top 15-ish receivers probably at this point, maybe even better. So I think his ceiling is just like insane levels.

And I think Newton, you might have comp them to like Cincinnati basically in some ways, too. Micah Parsons might get traded. Ricky has been on fire, by the way. Ricky, can we quick, quick little spot here for Ricky, the dog? For those of you aren't aware, if you follow Ricky Scoops on Twitter, I'm like 98% sure that he works for like an NFL agency or like has a best friend in NFL agency

because all of his scoops are like contract and trade related basically. His drafts pick shit is terrible. It's like so bad. So don't listen to for the draft. But his like signings and trade stuff is great. And he's reported that like Micah and the Packers are like working on a trade basically. And he's been like six for six the last like week and a half. So.

I know I thought was a really long rant that went all over the place, but my brain was just pinging from thing to thing. And I was like, man, no Micah for this, this Dallas team. I mean, they're going to score, what, 35 a game? Yeah. Yeah, that's, yeah, would be another alt under, right? There's a real floor to Dallas this season. So yeah, I can get behind this.

This is pretty Ricky, right? He's just upgraded to a new account to Ricky Scoops. Yeah, he was pretty Ricky. he got like a bunch of shit wrong people were going to be mean to him so he shut on his account and then he like redid it to be at ricky scoops and then if he's watching i really don't care i mean i'm just telling him out it's you know it's just like you know it's the reality um so um but yeah it's i love these anonymous twitter sources they're my favorites i've almost always terrible but pretty ricky slash rickie scoops has been pretty good the last uh couple weeks here

he rebranded like cracker barrel so we'll see how that holds up the people are up in arms yeah um yeah i give a slate one i wanted to do a uh i again dropped a bunch of defensive ones today um i want to again give another uh to be another over but i feel i feel all right with it um you know and then connor doesn't really have a leg to stand on on this one so he just has to support me in it but uh probably one of my favorite that's and bet it jared verse uh this is not priced evenly he's over seven so again fandwell probably your best bet um 7.75 sacks minus 112 on fandul uh there are seizures has a seven and a half at minus 135 there are some eight and a halfs out there as well like 365 i think rivers has that as well my projections have i have versed at 10.1 and i feel

really good about this one he i mean all the underlying metrics again this goes back to ed's point with the interception piece. It is nearly impossible to finish the season with four and a half sacks when you're fourth in pressures and fourth and past rush win rate. But VERS did that last year. He had the six most expected sacks last season right around 10.1. So he finished 5.6 sacks below expectation based off of his underlying metrics. He is a absolute dog.

Has the full bag of, you know, past moves. Absolutely love this, this play. There were some, you know, light seven. and a half. Like MGM had seven and a half and like plus 110 for like a month and they were the only person out there with the play. So I took as much as I could have that. But, you know,

again, was waiting for other books to come out so I could share that. But absolutely love versus my favorite sack bet. Even though it's an over, I think he can again, you know, I'm baking in, you know,

at least a missed game and a half and I have him at 10.1. So I love him this year over 7.75 sacks on Fandul minus 112. So, Connor. Yeah. Can't say anything about it. I have nothing to add. I mean, also, well, okay, I do something to add, but more from like a general standpoint.

I think that in smaller markets, like tackles, assists and stuff like that, there's significantly more gap and less like, I don't know, sharpness in the market. So like, I think it makes overs significantly more viable, in my opinion, just because the market is less like, I mean, like, I mean, all the stuff you said makes a ton of sense. So like, yes, there's still obviously like an injury out for unders. But I think there's also way more room for. or like the number just be like straight up wrong because they just took like i don't know the average or something like i don't know i don't know how they set them they just do whatever they want you know

feels like they're using again what i pointed out earlier last year sacks as a you know great indicator to to line these bets so um which makes sense like can't expect you know these these bookmakers to be you know doing the work that i'm doing on niche markets and then set you know lines for all these other props and for all these other sports just not not possible so um love very various love that play had a couple of unders in there as well maybe i'll share another one but versus my favorite and what do you got buddy anything else you want to get to sure in the interception market they're yeah yeah i was just going to say like in the interception market they certainly um they look at past interceptions right and that's how they're they're setting it which

is why you're getting value in that and then yeah i mean jared versus certainly one i mean you just flip on any rams game last year and it was pretty incredible incredible just the havoc you is causing right and then you look at his stats and i guess it was four and a half sacks and it's like that's kind of insane um so you know clearly a young asset and uh should be good for a long time and uh yeah i like that one i like that one a lot you got another one you want to share with us uh i haven't bet this yet but since we're Since we're kind of going overs and all over. Exclusive. Let's go.

I'm kind of high in the Green Bay Packers this year. I'm not really allowed to say that in the greater Detroit area here. I'm also pretty high in Detroit. I'm not sure that they're going to take the fall that a lot of people are expecting from them. But yeah, I just feel like, you know, it was just, they were pretty good, right? I mean, 11 and 6 in probably the toughest division in all football. and I think that offense can be even better. I think Jordan Love was actually pretty good when I look at some of the metrics last year.

And then he also had a second half of 2023 in which, you know, that Packers offense was the best in the NFL by my adjusted passing success rate. Certainly not the first half. First 10 weeks, they were bad. But they got it together in the second half. Love's numbers looked good last year. I like what they did in the receiver room. Like all those guys can't possibly suck this year, right?

you know if you think about you know between jaden reed and they drafted um the the guy out of texas and they they had another pick in the third round like they're they're going to find some receivers that are going to be good i thought the problem with this team was going to be the cornerback room and that they would have some struggles in the secondary i don't think that's true you know like i think nate hobbs has been like you know one of these guys that's not the best in the league but he came over from Vegas and you know he's got a pff covered grade about 60 over a decent span of years and that that's you know these are these are the guys that are not the best in the league but also hard to replace uh same thing same thing for chishon nixon back there their

safeties are great um they got a lot on the pass rush so i think a lot of things could come together for this team i haven't bet over or an all over but it's certainly um maybe maybe the only team i would actually think about doing that right now um so yeah i'm i'm on these packers two stands of approval right here connor and i both picked the packers to win the nfc in our preview we did not uh not talk about it but we uh we thought we were both being cute going off the board a little bit but uh we both landed the plane on the actual same super bowl matchup uh even so we took it another another step further but yeah pro packers family here yeah i'm I'm not going to, well, I mean, we can put you on the spot if you thought about it already.

But like we usually like do, so we do our divisional previews. And then the last one, we'll do like our, you know, playoff teams, NFC champion, AFC champion. And we don't talk about it at all before. Yeah, we honestly don't really talk about much anymore before shows just to make sure that we try and, you know, have fresh takes here outside of like, you know, props and stuff for each week. And we both ended with a Ravens Packer Super Bowl.

And I think we both had Ravens winning. I don't think that's what I had was Ravens winning. You got to get done. But I mean, have you. you if you dabbled it all in this market like if you know gunned your head like who would you pick you know what i mean like i'm gonna put you on yeah i mean i think i think you guys have to say packers versus ravens just because it'd be so boring to say packers versus chiefs right like you just get so much hell for that i think you can make a good case for kansas city

and baltimore you know like i said in one of my you know i mean these these teams are boring to prepare for in some sense right because great quarterback good coaching good defense like they're going to win double-digit games, right? And, yeah, so gunned ahead. Here, I don't know. I don't know who I would pick for the Super Bowl. But actually, let me maybe throw this out there that it wouldn't be Buffalo. I'm actually, I actually don't think this Buffalo roster is as good as people think it is. Alan's great. Not, not downing that at all. But I don't really like his receiver room. I think he kind of needs like a breakout year from Kea and Coleman and, you know, some of the passing metrics weren't great last year. So I'm interested to see how that works out. I think the offense

can still be good because they've been really good at running the ball over the last couple years. Part of that has been tied to some pretty incredible health along the offensive line for two straight seasons. And the big thing is I just don't think that defense is as talented as it was a couple seasons ago. They lost their both their safeties before the start of last season. The defense kind of held it together, but there was a lot of turnovers there. Christian Benford is an incredible

cornerback and one of the league's best last year, but and Toron Johnson is fine, but I just don't think they're really strong in the secondary. So, yeah, I wouldn't put Buffalo as my Super Bowl play.

I agree with that. Yeah. I don't have any problems with the defense, but But I think they're thin. I'll say that. Jordan Poyer signing today doesn't move the needle. Like he's in the practice squad. It's going to be Cole Bishop and Taylor Rap in the back end. Yeah, we'll see what happens.

They need Greg Russo to have a great year. I think he has a great year. Even then they need someone to kind of compliment him. It can't be Trey Hendrickson, right, where you're having to just have one guy be the dude and then occasionally scheme up some other stuff. You need to kind of get, you know, Joey Bosa. situational pass rushery like you need some of these guys to really to really step up into that to be that team to compare with again not to win the a fc east but to actually talk about going

head-to-head against this baltimore team and against the chiefs yeah so yeah also josh allen was pretty fortunate with interceptions and then pretty unfortunate with interceptions the year before so i think a lot of things went right for that baltimore team last year i guess except for beating Kansas City in the playoffs. It's going to take more luck and work for that to get back to that point in my mind. Yeah, I'm good with any pro packer stuff. Another one-off again, people probably can get down much on Bet365. They're the only book that has this.

I wish they actually have like the ability to ladder and take alt on over-on tackles. No one has any season-long tackle bets. There's no binary tackle markets at all anywhere. 365 It's brutal Last year a bunch of books did But Edgerin Cooper Over 125 tackles and assists

On bet 365 is plus 280 If you can get down on that And I have him I think at 147 Missing in game And 147 The dude's an absolute star I'm

Yeah he's he's unbelievable So comfortable with that If you can get down And almost 3 to 1 It's by far the best bet on the board in that market so very pro packers all three levels defensively look jordan love got hurt in the first week last year too right like he missed some time and then came back they probably rushed him because they didn't want to really let malic willis loose right they were able to kind

of piece some stuff together and get through yeah i think that definitely impacted the ceiling there so you know there's just a lot of things that could work in this this team's favor and again i I think Matt with Flores is one of the best premier coaches in this league. Premier play callers, all that stuff. So absolutely love the Pro Packer stuff from Ed, too, that makes me feel good about some of our features there, Connor. Anything else you want to unload the clip on? Love that. Yeah, I'll go with rapid fire.

I got three, two unders and a long shot. So, Breece Hall under 875 and a half rushing yards. We played it at 900. I think there's still a lot of wiggle room there. You know, Brayland Allen's going to work in more. is 1A, 1B. This Jets team stinks. Like, I mean, going to be game scripted out.

There's going to be workload concerns. I think Isaiah Davis might get some run as a pass catcher. Plus, like, maybe even an early down carrier here and there, like, so many outs of this under. Plus, I mean, there's been trade rumors. Like, the team doesn't really seem to like him. The vibes couldn't be much worse for a guy like Breece Hall. So I think under there is a pretty strong look. Devin A. Chan, looks like it's still up.

875 and a half. He's supposed to play week one. But he's like a calf, you know, kind of like calf issue, essentially. And we've seen a lot that kind of developing other stuff for other players. All he has to do is play one snap all season. Dolbin's offensive line is awful. As, you know, Nune mentioned, the floor on this team is really low. I think Jalen, right, when he's healthy, is probably going to play a role.

If not, Ollie Gordon is probably going to play a sizable role on early downs, too, and kind of be like, I don't know, just like, you know, in between the tackles kind of guy and just like probably get some more carry. I think there's a lot of different outs for A-chan under. And then another fun long shot is 49ers to have the most wins in the NFL, 13 to 1 right now. I don't think the 49ers are the best team. I don't even know if they're a top five team, but their schedule is so easy and they're significantly better than almost every single team they play. They are favored in 15 of 17 games this year.

They're two games that they're underdogs that are against, are one and a half one underdogs against the Rams and Tampa Bay. I have two very winnable games as well. And so, I mean, again, it's not a team that I think is amazing, but I think it's a good bit better than just about every team they're going to play and it's probably going to win a lot of games this year. We see it almost every year. It's all with the Carolina Panthers in 2015. We saw it with, you know, maybe it was the Falcons with Matt Ryan.

Like these teams just go on a run. They have a good year. And then, you know, maybe they're not the best team, but they win a lot of games. And so I'm excited for this Niners team. We think 13 to 1 is a little short on them right now. That's a good price. Yeah.

Have you got anything else you want to empty the clip on? Yeah. I mean, I love Niners 13 to 1 to have the most wins. I think I had them actually as a sixth best team when I looked at underlying metrics last season, even though they were five in whatever they were. Like it was a pretty good team despite all the injuries. Let's just assume you get some reasonable health. Maybe McCaffrey plays.

half the season i don't know um i i don't know i think there's a lot of talent on both sides of the ball i'm not sure i mean they may not be the best team in the NFL but right i i don't think it's out of the question that they're going to be a top five team at all so i think maybe connor i'm higher than you on them as a team and then if the schedule is really like that then uh that yeah it seems like a fun one they seem to have loved their draft and they went very defensive heavy um which is really encouraging so i'm kind of like i was kind of where connor was i get some questions and now i feel a little bit more on ed's side where i actually feel like there's a couple things that work here i think it's a great i mean you can't argue how stuff that schedule is uh and then you get you know some

scenarios where all of a sudden if this defense actually is really good and i think the you know robert salla coming in and you know just i think he's just one of these other guys that right sometimes you get these coordinators that just maybe are out over their skis a little bit in terms of being a head coach, but then you make them, put them back in their spot as a coordinator. This has been something that's been going on in the league for as long as I've been alive and I've followed it. There's just a lot of these, you know, Dave Wanstead types all over the place. They just have, you maybe aren't good head coaches, but you get him just back to their coordinator job and they're fantastic. I think you could see him really maximizing some of these young guys

they have on the defensive side. So, yeah, I think that 13 is a really nice fine there. It's a good price. So good call. I can, well, I got one more. Well, kind of two together. Still bullish on anything Denver Broncos. I wanted to find some holes in Denver. I still think this is a playoff team. I think, you know, over nine and a half wins is still a market that I want to get into on the Bronco side.

I think there's some room for them to even take a step forward. It's pretty young team, young quarterback, young offensive pieces. At the same time, I want to go under nine and a half sacks on Nick Benito, which is, again, 13 sacks last year. really impressive got himself into like the defensive player of the year discussion he was 50 he had uh he's 43rd in pass rush win rate um 23rd in total pressures uh which is really hard to do when you have 13 sacks third most sacks in league and he's just kind of middle of the pack in terms of you guys that are playing that amount of sacks so or snaps so it's just really hard to to get 10 and I think again they're building in some natural regression and again you can say hey at 13 so they're building in

regression like his expected sack rate was like seven like six point nine um so again there's there's some room for him to continue to regress and maybe he just has some jared versluck right he just continues to kind of play the same way i don't think we see a massive spike and snap rate for him or anything this year so he just kind of falls back can still have a great year with you know eight eight and a half sacks and he's just not getting to 10 so benino that's available at a few different books, nine and a quarter on Fandul. Caesars has minus 1.30 on the nine and a half. If you could bet MGM, they have the best price at minus 110 on the under nine and a half.

So it can be a good year for Benito and still fall under nine and a half pretty comfortably. Probably like that one a little bit better, Connor. I mean, that's, you're talking about language now. This is great. You know, an under on, I mean, Benito, this is, this is, yeah, I'm in. Where do I bet this? what do you say? Yeah, MGM Cesar's 365.

That's pretty good. Fandall too. Yeah, Fandall's nine and a quarter. Just fine. Again, because you can, it's half sacks, quarter sacks matter. But nine and a quarter minus 101 eight on Fandwell. Again, I have him, I have him for six point three four.

Three? Six. Okay, six point three four. I said, now he said three point six four. Remember my brain just like flip the numbers there. I mean, still that's great. Yeah.

It's like, The one guy was it last year, the year before, it was like a week one, he had to project it, or he was like three, he was over under his three and a half tackles and he was like,

you were like, I think he's going to play like three snaps. Like he doesn't have more than a single tackle in his entire career, like in a game or something like that. You remember that guy? There was like some random, I don't know,

the end or something like that. Some random guy on the Texans. I didn't know how we got posted. It was up for like 20 minutes. And I was, I saw it posted first before I even ran my script. And I'm like, I don't even know if I had this guy built into my projections.

And then I looked at, Like he's played like three snaps in the last four weeks. There's no injury. And yeah, they, that's, I mean, it's one of the best parts of like early in the season, right? Like they posted, ESPN bet posted Christian McAfre's receiving yard prop at 12 and a half yesterday for like 25 minutes. Shout out Jake Lodenberg. He's our, you know, NFL analyst youth prodigy.

I don't know behind, you know, in our Slack telling us all these things. And sleeper still added up. I dropped in our Discord, CMC, and then they had Trey Harris still up at, like, 30 receiving yards. I don't even know if Trey Harris is like, how many snaps are going to play? He's like fourth or fifth on the depth chart. So I don't know.

There's a lot of edges early in the season. Yeah. Yep, it's going to be on your toes. Yep. That's all I got guys. We're pushing an hour. That's probably pretty good. Handing out a bunch of bats.

Yeah. Anything else for the people? We're good. All right. I'm out. I got nothing. You got nothing. Ed, tell everyone we're,

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So that's kind of the promise. Like, if you want some action on any given weekend, I will get it for you. So, and we're heading back. Actually, it was a little bit more futures heavy in August because I'm just so focused on football, but it'll be getting back into something every weekend, obviously, as the NFL season starts. So check that out at the powerrank.com. Love it. We don't have Ed on a bunch by accident.

We love his stuff. You know, appreciate his analysis and it is top shelf. And we feel like it aligns with our brand here at 4'44. So definitely check out the Power Rank. and definitely find the football analytics show. Highly, highly, highly recommend that. So all right, man, next time we'll be here, week one. Really, really excited about it.

We'll have some schedule announcements. Prob job will be back with High Slop on Fridays. Connor and I will be earlier in the week. We'll probably looking at Tuesday record for move the line, get a little bit earlier, maybe some, you know, before the market matures a little bit, maybe the ability to get down on some early action on sides and total stuff. Yeah, we'll have some more information on that next week.

So appreciate everyone hanging out. Again, move the line wherever you listen to podcast, 4-4-4-bets. Betting subscription, you need to check that out. Again, Sharpstack. We didn't talk about much of it today. But again, Sharpstack is something we've been sharing quite a bit. We're really excited about sharing that. Again, if you haven't found any of that, find our Twitter at 4-4-4-B football.

It's our new top-down our suite of tools, including our top-town EV betting tool, which we are stoked to share. and absolutely fills my heart now we finally have football and there we've been talking about it for like three months i can't wait to see football start popping in this thing and here we are so odd screens for college props NFL props all the stuff you want it's all in there so uh we'll have more information than that as the season goes along so for Connor and then I'm Ryan see you all next time thanks everybody