Move The Line - 2025 NFL Mock Draft News!

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

Dive into recent NFL Mock Draft news to find out where your favorite 2025 rookies could be heading during the NFL Draft. Find out where players like Cam Ward, Shedeur Sanders, Ashton Jeanty, Travis Hunter, and more are heading in this early look of the NFL Draft. Subscribe to 4for4's Betting Package 👉🏼  https://www.4for4.com/plans Sign-up on FanDuel Today 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/go/fanduel Follow 4for4 on Twitter 👉🏼    / 4for4football  Follow 4for4 Bets on Twitter 👉🏼    / 4for4bets  Follow Move the Line on Twitter 👉🏼    / movethelinenfl   Follow Connor on Twitter 👉🏼    / connorallennfl  Follow Ryan on Twitter 👉🏼    / rynoonan   Visit our Website 👉🏼  https://www.4for4.com/Join our Discord 👉🏼    / https://discord.com/invite/4for4Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3OupraJ 4for4 Betting Strategy Hub 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3hm39cw4for4 Betting Picks 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3LUp0Ea NFL Betting Odds & Predictions 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3nsW9QU 

Hello and welcome to Move the Line. I'm Ryan Noonan here for some NFL Draft discussion with my friends Connor Allen and Scott Smith. Both these gentlemen recently have put out some new mock drafts as we get close here. What are we two weeks away? It's like it's coming. It's here. On the dot. On the dot. Two weeks. So what's going on Connor? How are you? Good. Yeah. Fired some, some masters lineups at the advice from, you know, you, Ron and Andy. So hopefully cash some, some early checks there to just roll it all right into the draft. You know, that would be awesome to, you know, just literally just take it all and then put it more on draft props. Generational wealth opportunities flowing in on Friday night when those made the cut parlays come pouring in. Scott, what's up with you, buddy? How are we doing? A little under the weather. I'm going to be talking about generational wealth opportunities flowing in on Friday night when

those made the cut parlays come pouring in. Uh Scott, what's up with you buddy? How we doing? Little under the weather. Uh my daughter had surgery last week so I missed the show but she's doing better. Yeah, better getting back on the man. So

hopefully uh get through this week. I got a couple of MMA shows Friday and Saturday night I gotta go to and uh big weekend but hey, let's get it. We're getting closer to draft. So ready to get it. Love it. All right. That's, uh, let's get into some, obviously some news since the last time we were here a week ago. This is obviously a very fluid time of year. You know, you're starting to get a little bit more information. Uh, I get a sense of what these teams are looking to do. I still don't think we have a great sense of what's happening in number

two feels more and more likely that one is, you know, off the board is really no discussions. Cam ward at this point, you have the ability to pretty liquid and you get a bunch down. It feels like cam ward is probably a pretty good bet to go number one, Connor. Number two felt like we were moving away from Chador Sanders. I was getting really long. There's just like where to should or fall We get a little bit of reporting that sure maybe still in play the market very much wants to tell you that it's you know The Travis Hunter a dual Carter discussion has also started to lean more towards Hunter in this scenario. Where are we at last week on the Browns and number two?

Yeah, Travis Hunter. We're looking at it's like a minus 300 favorite now to go number two. We're seeing Abdul Carter right around the two to one range. He was once minus 300. And again, most of these things have shifted based on every single Schefter report. Schefter opened up eight weeks ago saying that Cleveland's for sure gonna pick quarterback because they have to.

Then three weeks later says, things are trending towards Abdul Carter. That gets blown out of proportion and is quote tweeted by the aggregators is like the Browns are gonna pick Abdul Carter's then Abdul Carter becomes minus 300 now we have him trying to give a million caveats on like what he said still ends up getting taken out of context of like the things are going towards Travis Hunter now so I think the most likely right now it is probably Travis Hunter I

think Travis Hunter also makes the most sense for them from a team building perspective for a lot of reasons and Um, and as a dynamic player, like all of those reasons make sense. Abdul Carter never really made a ton of sense in my mind because they have one of the worst offices in the league. They can't move the ball. He doesn't solve the quarterback position, the wider Sierra position or the corner position for them. So I think there's a lot of reasons not to take Abdul Carter, uh,

for the Browns that leaves us with Travis Hunter. Now I still think there's an outside chance that should or Sanders is the pick We know they like shooter Sanders like I feel very good They like him just a matter whether they can stomach picking him over someone like Carter or like Travis Hunter So at the end of the day, I mean, I think we've seen owners and we've seen teams do crazier things If you don't have a position on sugar Sanders It's like 17 to 1 on fan duel to go second overall like Put a little sprinkle there you know, especially if you're a deep on any hunter or Carter stuff like it's it's worth the bet because all it takes is the

Owner saying the week of like we don't have a quarterback. We need a quarterback. We're picking sure Sanders I don't care the value sucks, but we need a quarterback like it happens all the time. So That's kind of where I'm at with it. I'm not ready to add anything to hunter, but I think that that's probably Yeah, I think it's probably a stay away until we get a little bit closer. Yeah, not a lot of, I mean, you saw some quotes too from Stefanski, like they're not anti-Shtedore Sanders, right? It's like, we like the young man, real smart, like his process, like it's good, seems like a good fit, like his process. It's not like not like there's anything tea leaf reading there. So yeah, 17, uh, and Fandle is a pretty good price there. Uh, Scott,

you have Travis Hunter going to, then you did mock Sjoerdor Sanders three to the giants. Uh, talk to us a little bit about what you're doing here with two and three and your thought process. Yeah, it's just look when it comes to Adam Schefter, especially this year, he has been all over the place throughout the last couple of weeks, you know, and normally he's a little bit on it. But it's the market to move in information rumors are all moving. I still kind of fall into the camp with the Giants that neither one of the quarterbacks, James Winston or Russell Wilson is the answer. Now, I do get where they're at.

They need to, that coach and staff in that front office, I think both need to save their jobs this year. Is Abdul Carter gonna be more of the player that could possibly do that, or is Shidore Sanders gonna be that person? It's a quarterback-driven league. I just kinda lean that direction for right now. Other information that I've been receiving is that if it's not the

Giants and it's not Cleveland, I don't think it's going to be the Saints. The people in the know that are down here are heavily connected with the front office and the Saints don't seem to think that they're high on Shador Sanders, that they've got a couple of other players that they're high on. So if he makes it past the Saints, where does he fall? A lot of people are just kind of putting a default at Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh did just have a top 30 visit scheduled

with Chador Sanders. So it's getting interesting to see what happens if it's not Cleveland at two and it's not New York at three. Last week, Solak tried to make the case a little bit for Seattle at 18, which I thought was, was interesting there too. So yeah, it's definitely a very difficult thing to kind of pinpoint where he ends up landing. And you kind of get the scenarios where you try to have to think about teams trading back in Connor into the first round, which gets really dicey. Yeah, I think something to add to the Giants though, too, would be, so like Jordan Manon came out today and said, like,

he heard before the owner's meeting, like, hey, I don't know if they loved Jeter Sanders, the Giants. And then the owner's meeting, you know, I believe it was the GM, Joe Shane was talking about, like, yeah, we don't really have to take quarterback at three. Maybe that's all just posturing. I don't know, like it could all be the case, but he basically was piecing together, like,

he had heard from multiple different people, and then the public leader saying it. Generally, that's been my barometer of like how real something is for the most part is like if I hear it from someone or a couple people like privately different places and then it kind of starts getting some public steam to me that's usually like the best indicator of something being true. So I kind of believe it at this point. So I probably won't be mocking sugar three and to Scott's point Uh, I had him at nine Initially on my third mock and I changed that had to change that, uh, you know pretty quickly because again, that's

Just hearing he's not going to go nine basically. So, um, but he could still I guess it's possible But you know, I it's just not seem like the most likely outcome here So yeah, I think it's gonna be a team trading back in. It gets really messy to mock or figure out. So I think taking some long shots could make sense. Uh, Scott, with four in New England, you have, uh, obviously Chidor going in the top three, which is I think a, um, pretty great scenario for New England. Maybe I think happy to take, uh, Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter if one were available. Um,

a lot more discussion as I believe you look to you know shout out to Vegas Refund you know all the work that he does tracking mock drafts pretty consistent drumbeat now of offensive lineman going there and even more so specifically Will Campbell seems to have leapfrogged Armin Memboo to be the first offensive lineman in terms of where that's kind of shifted there a little bit What are your thoughts there in terms of membu Campbell or anything that you've heard there that kind of led to that decision? Yeah, I feel pretty comfortable that if if she door Sanders goes top three I think that the Patriots have a real decision to make and it's between Abdul Carter and will Campbell

I tend to like membu a little bit better but all the information coming out of New England is that they tend to favor Will Campbell over Membu and they feel secure that he's going to be a left tackle and that he's going to be able to play that position. So really you have to kind of decide, and I think those two players are kind of where they're looking. If Abdul Carter goes three to New York and Chidor does indeed fall, Will Campbell is definitely going to be the pick in my opinion, um, just based upon the drum beat that you're hearing here recently. Can we get great info out of New England last year? Um, you,

we started the quarterback discussions, got a little wonky. We didn't know what was happening there. Obviously, a shift in front office, maybe some older New England sources have dried up for some folks. Just because there's discussion, we've heard variable come out and say, we believe that Will Campbell is a left tackle. Isn't necessarily a signal to me that they think Will Campbell is the best offensive lineman.

It's just interesting that it feels like, is there something that I missed that was reported there other than that because I'm kind of surprised that it feels a little clear cut to the masses right now that it's Campbell over Membu. Yeah I think so you know last year obviously we had a I would say pretty big whiff on the New England quarterback situation to some extent and there it's interesting because there's other people saying opposite things I just didn't know the other people as well and saying it was for sure Drake may and they've said that for a little while and so you know, I

Think that people are more trustworthy Avengers leaning towards will Campbell at this point So, you know that's you know based on my understanding like I played a little bit at open personally like it like plus 400 Or something like that just based on that now we like, I played a little bit at open personally, like at like plus 400 or something like that, just based on that. Now we're down to minus 110. I don't know if I love it at minus 110 from maybe the fourth pick, we're seeing even minus 130 at some spots,

like that to me, I think Shudder Sanders is still in some of the equation to some extent. If we assume that he's not, like, I would feel pretty comfortable betting Will Campbell for minus 110, but if he is, like, I mean, they're not picking Will Campbell over Carter, I don't think, or Travis Hunter. So yeah, I have a tough time getting there to be honest at current prices. Yeah, I don't think they would either. I think it's still best player available.

Uh, Jags, Mason Graham, probably one of the more common, you know, team player situations that we have. Scott, you didn't deviate there at all. Anything to expand on with Jags at five? Yeah, I've actually been waffling a little bit on the Jaguars. I think the Jaguars are kind of down to three players and Mason Graham is kind of the safe play. But Jalen Walker is really a player that's starting to get a lot of buzz moving up and some people have even mentioned them there at four to the Patriots. I haven't gotten there yet but I think Jalen Walker could be firmly in play. I think if Will Campbell's there

Will Campbell would be in play as well. So the three players that I'm kind of looking at is Mason Graham, Jalen Walker and Will Campbell and at at this point, it actually seems like Mason Graham may be slipping a little bit. I don't think he's going to drop far. I don't think he'd get past say the Jets maybe. But I think those are three players that are firmly there. And right now I have Mason Graham. Jalen Walker nine to one right now to be the fifth overall pick or plus six 50 to be a top five pick.

If you're interested in that, I, I go back and forth on it, but I don't think it's bad. At that price, you can tell me a lot of things. Yeah. It's interesting from just a team building perspective because they have a couple of solid off-ball linebackers and a couple of solid edge guys. It's kind of really all they really do have. And I knew Campbell can swing and play both and that could work. And you know, contracts, like, you're not drafting the guy just for 2025.

You're drafting for, you know, future years as well. So, you know, sometimes we can get locked into current needs and stuff like that. So teams might see something differently. They might know interior pay. We're not bringing that guy back. So there are things like that. They could be a little bit more, you know,

wishy washy than we know. So yeah, not a bad sprinkle currently. I don't, I don't think that's a bad look there. All right. Six, a little bit more drumbeat as of late. The Raiders have been a hard team to peg with just obviously a series of needs. There's the apparent Michigan connection with Will Johnson, um, cornerback out of Michigan with, you know, obviously Tom Brady, um, you know, Jack Jones has been, uh been released recently as well.

Really weak position getting weaker there. Scott, anything to expand on with the Raiders and who else was in consideration there? Yeah, for a while it's been Jean T that's been kind of mocked there and he's kind of the majority pick. But I think when you look at it and them cutting their top cornerback, I was trying to trade them and not really being able to get rid of them. And then you also kind of have the, the Trevion Henderson drum beat as well there and possibly be in a pick in the

late first round or second round. If, if they stick, I think, I think the Raiders have options at running back, whereas they don't necessarily have as good an option as they are, trying to fill a cornerback or even another key piece. So in circles, Will Johnson's kind of getting a little more play, especially to the Raiders. You've got Charlie and Walter both been hitting on it for a while and a few other people are starting to swing that way as well. So I just did something different besides putting Jauntie because I've been hearing a little bit more about jaunty and some other places. So we'll Johnson to the Raiders. Connor, anything you've spent on the Raiders?

Yeah. Um, so Noonan, I have a question though, for you as a ball knower, uh, you know, I've heard a lot of other ball knowers think that Will Johnson sucks, um, because his 2024 tape is not very good.er, you know, I've heard a lot of other ball knowers think that Will Johnson sucks because his 2024 tape is not very good. You know, Amiko is on this train. You got a couple other people are on this train. They're just like, you know, basically being like, I think it was maybe McShay was talking about it. He was just like ripping Will Johnson for like half of a podcast lately. And so I mean, he's like bigger, he's not huge. He's not super lengthy, he's lengthy, but he's not like,

doesn't have a crazy arms or anything like that. That being said, he played, like you mentioned, he didn't play a lot of man. Peek, Patrick Graham's defense essentially played, I would say slightly above average amount of zone, but I assume Pete Carroll's gonna come in and also have an impact on that, who again, sort of plays like cover three above average amount of zone But I assume Pete Carroll's gonna come in and also have an impact on that who again sort of plays like cover three A lot of zone like I would assume that that's probably gonna sway towards whatever Pete Carroll wants to do and Patrick Graham is gonna be

Like hey, you know, all right sounds good So I think there's obviously fit there also, you know the whole thing of Pete Carroll drafting Drafting the Seahawks., your boy, who they picked fifth overall. It was a shocking thing. Yep, exactly, Witherspoon. So I don't know, I think that there's connections there in their cornerback room. And again, it's like pathetic. Like it's like literally the worst cornerback room I think in the league on paper.

So I don't know, like talking about seven to one, I think John T makes a lot of sense too for a lot of other reasons. Like I'm not saying that Will Johnson's like an awesome pick, but he's seven to one and Ashton Jett, he's like, you know, again, minus one fourth. So yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, I'm not sure what the knee, I mean, there's definitely a team knee in terms of stylistic fit. I mean, people used to think that they would only take, you know, big corners because he had some success with big corners in the Legion of boom

days, but then witherspoon's not of that ilk. He's a little bit on the smaller side and definitely a dog and willing to put his nose in it. But yeah, I mean, you would think that Tom Brady would probably have access to a little bit more insight into coaching and all those different things that he was asked to do in Michigan, why things went the way they did. If they were comfortable with that, that would be of interest. We've also had a lot of people that think Barron's pretty good, but again, that's another thing that Solak last week was not a big Barron guy. I respect Ben's ball-knowing opinion as well. The Raiders are interesting. Again, they have so many needs. They can go best player available they need pretty much everything. So it gets a little bit confusing. Next we have the Jets, just kind of a louder drum

beat there with obviously some right tackle needs. Memboo going there Scott for your draft. We've seen that pretty consistently as of late. Again, I think another team that can go a lot of different ways, but based on some stuff we've heard from that that team front office, it does make a lot of sense. Was it pretty easy? Memboo slot in there for you? No, I think you need to give him a clean pocket and give him as good of a fresh start as you can there with the Jets. So I think Membu with his upside and his athleticism makes a lot of sense for a team that has kind of struggled over the last few years to protect their quarterbacks. Connor, any thoughts on the Jets? Obviously, I mean,

you know, offensive line is a need need, that receiver is pretty terrible. They want to sell you on their tight end room being okay, but I don't know, they can go a lot of different ways. Yeah, I think that they go all line here. I mean, there were some, you know, I think Dagle had in his mock, Kelvin Banks going seven, you know, I've had Memboo, I feel pretty good about them taking one of those guys. Just like the only way that they're going to win games this year is going to be like bolstering offensive line, Justin Fields, Breece Hall, Braylon Allen running the ball like 35 times a game.

And then just praying their defense can hold up with the new defensive coordinator or just Aaron Glantz just like throwing crazy blitzes the entire game because they just didn't really play all that well after Salah left. And I think Salah could have been a difference maker there. So yeah, I think I expect him to go super run heavy. And I think that solidifying the trenches and kind of adding to that is a pretty important piece of that.

So I think that it'll be Membu. I mean, Banks is like 16 to one, depending on where you look. I don't know. I mean, I think it's worth a stab at that price. It took a little bit this morning just for fun. And then, yeah, I think that, I mean, if Mason Graham was there, maybe they do that too. But again, Mason Graham is, I kind of think kind of a lot of outs like five, six, seven, I don't know. Like it seems like there's a lot of outs here in the top 10.

I like the banks call, right? Cause if new England goes Memboo and everyone misread that situation and the jets are maybe a little bit clearer on banks than they are on Campbell, like that feels like something we don't know the answer to. And it's probably not priced correctly at 16.1, right? So there are lots of different ways where that is probably some good leverage, right? We're two weeks out, starting to get a little bit more information, but still okay, they're like, play

off of a little bit of market uncertainty based off of like feeling like there's market certainty, right? Like these are, that's a great example of, of kind of leveraging that a little bit. So good call. Totally. No, I think, I think that goes back to like, when we talked about the whole like shifter swinging things of like, Oh, Abdul Carter now like shaving through the favorite, like Travis Hunter was 13 to one to go second overall after that tweet, which, which I bet a little bit. I mean, not, not enough, after that tweet, which I bet a little bit.

I mean, not enough, but obviously I bet a little bit just in case, and now he's minus 300. So I think, yeah, playing into uncertainty still. We're two weeks out. Even, I mean, the day of, there's still gonna be plenty of uncertainty because as things shake out, like you said, if the Patriots don't go Campbell and they go Memboo,

like, do the Jets really want Will Campbell? Is that an idea? We don't know. I mean, it could be Banks. It could be, well, I think it'd probably be banks or Will Campbell at that point, but who knows? So, uh, and I think the same thing kind of goes with Ashen, Ashen Gentile. He talked about like, if he doesn't go six, uh, where does he go? Right. Cause then there's some longer prices on, on nine, um, a decent one on 10. And then I don't know, I don't know if he doesn't go, I would be really shocked at the various past. I don't know I don't know if he doesn't go I would be really

shocked at the various pass I don't be honest at this point like that would be that would be pretty surprising to me yeah does feel more more and more like that's the case uh Jalen Walker eight to Carolina Scott talking about the fit with uh Everose three four obviously team that you know was absolutely abysmal up front last year. A lot of injuries, but also just a lot of talent lacking too. You same thing. They were in a bad, I think a bad linebacker quarter start this season and they had cluster injuries. We got into a list of dudes like they got into like linebacker six, seven starting games at the end of last year's a pretty weak position.

And we know, you know, Walker's ability to kind of swing both ways there and be able to play off ball, play on the edge is pretty pretty important there too. Any thoughts on Carolina there at 8? Yeah, I think Walker is a good fit there. The only other player that I've really heard them connected with is McHale Williams. You know his his teammate there at Georgia. If Walker were to go earlier than then we're Carolina, I think Carolina is a

team that you could possibly see even trade back a little bit. Um, especially for team that might want to come up and hop in front of the saints, whether that's Chicago for Jean T or a team that wants to come up for Shador Sanders possibly. I think there's a lot of outs there for, for Carolina. And so if it's not Jalen Walker, I think things get kind of dicey as far as like what you're betting on. Yeah. Any thoughts there, Carolina Scott, or Connor? I mean, obviously another team is just pretty terrible. They can go, you know, tight ends build off of, you know, what happened last year. You've heard a lot about, you know, Canal is talking about,

I want to run the football. I want to stop the run. I want to be multiple at tight ends. I want to run the football. I want to stop the run. I want to be multiple at tight ends. It could be a sneaky spot for Tyler Warren, but I mean, it's a team that needs a lot of stuff. Yeah, I was reading something today. I think it was from CoachSpeakIndex about how Canal has talked about like tight ends a bunch

and how like his offense is super tight end friendly. So I hadn't really left my mind open to that, to be honest, because I kind of thought like, well, they kind of got the passing game working at the end of last year. Like maybe they're going to go with defense because their defense needs a little bit more help. And then there may be a well-rounded team. I mean, if they had Tyler Warren, like that he could be awesome in that offense with Kanala is kind of scheming that up. Be like a more much more legitimate playmaker than Xavier LeGette. I like it. I was not a fan of that pick at all.

Maybe Eric Eager gets in the GM's ears and is like, we gotta pick Tyler Warren, he could play any position for us. So I don't know, I think that's kind of interesting. What are the odds there? I honestly haven't looked at it today. I was literally reading this like, I don't know, maybe an hour before we got on here.

It's because Tyler Warren would be drafted by market. Um, cause it was probably Tyler Warren to be drafted by market. Um, 60, uh, no, okay. That's, that's, that's, I was actually judging. I was like, holy shit. Um, 20 to one, uh, so the Panthers to draft Tyler Warren. It's better than Panthers to take a tight end first, right? Cause that to me sounds like Tyler Warren and not Colston Loveland in terms of like the fit, if you were to go end first, right? Because that to me sounds like Tyler Warren and not Colston Loveland in terms of like the fit, if you were to go tight end, right? Like more of a, you know,

guy that you could put in line that can block and be a little bit more multiple whereas I think the league kind of sees Loveland as more of, you know, that slot, that big slot type of player. You know, I hate that. Yeah, I mean, 20 to 1, like, I think part of the thing is, he's gonna be there. So like, probably. Well, I mean, yeah, like, I would say he's probably gonna be there. And so they're gonna have a real decision on their hands. If it's, I mean, say Jaylen Walker goes before, or maybe they don't like Jaylen Walker, don't view that as like a position need or like, it's like Tyler Warren or Michael Williams,

like, she'd probably be drafting Tyler Warren. Yeah. All right. Scott, Scott, New Orleans, uh, you went with, uh, Ashton Genti. I'm something that Connor shouted out, I don't know, a month and a half ago at this point. And when he was 25 to one or whatnot, get some nice CLV there. And there seems to be a little bit more of a drum beat.

So interesting to me with the saints because they have so many needs. Salary cap is such an issue. Um, how do we land on Gentile to the saints? Uh, it's just really local bus here that I've heard from some people that I trust. Um, the two players that I keep hearing that the saints absolutely love is one is Jean T and the other one is the player that we just talked about in Tyler Warren at, at tight end. They signed Jawan Johnson to basically $10 million a year. I thought that was too much, but I think

that their thought process with Tyler Warren is that he could open up and allow them to use Johnson more in a slot type of position. But I think when it comes to Jean T, I think you start to look at how up in age Kamara is getting and they kind of struggled to consistently run the ball last year. My understanding when it comes to some other positions, specifically offensive line is that they're not really high on trying to move around. Some of the players that they have in Fawaga and Trevor Penning, Penning was a bust up until last year until they were kind of able to get him

settled at right tackle. So they're a little hesitant to go that route, which kind of excludes some of the other offensive linemen out of my consideration here at this point. And I just think when you start to look at it with some of the issues they have on offense and we talked about Jean T basically, you know, changing the identity of an offensive football team for whoever drafts them, whether it be the Raiders here or, you know, whether it be the Saints or, you know, even Chicago, um, you know, with the new coach and staff they have coming in, I think six, nine

and 10 are all real considerations. And if he gets past those three teams, it's kind of hard to really figure out where to slot them. Yeah, it's, it's a little tricky. Yeah. He's a, he is an important one to go off of Connor. I know you'd love to see this, uh, anything to expand on here with the saints. No, I mean still 16 to one on three, six, five. Um, which, uh, you know, I've been priming my account gracefully for all the words. Yeah. So we are,

uh, I've been just ripping money line parlay so the last month And it's good there. Let me get down to like enough at least you know have some fun Not you know I haven't been pushing the limit too much, but you know enough to have some fun So still 16 to 1 there I think anything about 10 to 1 is honestly great value because again. It's like Tyler Warren He's gonna be there. There's plenty of connections between Kellenmore and him and what they want to do. Do they have plenty of other holes? Absolutely. Like they have a hundred, so many other holes, but it could make sense.

Bears attend real tricky. Um, I just want to put out there that there was a recent mock draft. Uh, I don't know if it was Walter or Charlie that landed, uh, Kenneth Grant attended the Bears. Someone put that out there. Reputable source. So be careful there. But again, head on a swivel.

Head on a swivel, Connor. You just never, never know. Scott, where are you at the Bears? I mean, it could be a Gentie landing spots. People are talking about running back and being the spot for them too, where it's like you're seeing maybe Hampton be as early as 10 of the Bears. We've seen Tyler Warren at the Bears. You went offensive line.

Again, that was obviously one of the bigger needs coming in. Did a great job addressing the interior offensive line early in free agency. Have a couple of young tackles. I think Braxton Jones is coming up though. So like how did you land on Will Campbell there at 10? I really just think Chicago would run the card up there if his gente is on the board. I think they absolutely take him. I think they even look at trying to move up in front of the Saints if he's

available to go ahead and take him as well with him off the board. The two players that were kind of in consideration is again, Tyler Warren was one. I haven't really looked into the Kenneth Grant situation and kind of figuring that out. But I just really landed on best player available and them trying to build around and protect their young quarterback.

But like I said, I think for this offense and what they would want to do, I think Jonti is kind of their primary focus. And we've had some pretty good luck the last couple of years, keying in on Chicago's picks and with some of the sources we have. So as it gets closer to draft, I think we'll be able to key in and really try to figure out who they're gonna get. But right now it's a little bit up in the air and so

it's just really building around that quarterback. Yeah. Connor, were you on the bears? Yeah. I mean, from what I heard initially was like, all right, well, they want to build the offensive line out. And then if they do that, they're probably not going to go off the line. And they're going to go with, you know, I genti would be like ideal for them. So if he's there, I'm pretty sure that they're going to pick him. Uh, which again, I don't think is that bold to say he's not there. I just haven't heard much else because I like the last time I heard anything was a while ago and you know, things have just been a little bit tighter this year. So it's been a little bit tougher.

You know, there's always like, if I look back at kind of some of their options, they've always kind of like like some of these like random tools, the kind of guys that like as their secondary option. So like think about like Dnell Wright was picked 10. Like he was not really the favorite heading heading in. Roma Dunze was obviously the, I think it's kind of like Gentie. It's like if Rome was there, they're going to pick Rome. He's not there.

Like, you know, I heard that it was going to be one of like Byron Murphy or Jared verse. So like, again, guys that weren't necessarily thought of as the 10th overall pick but you know polls love so in that kind of mindset and framework like it wouldn't surprise me to see any of these random defensive guys kind of sneak into the conversation I mean I don't know could it be a Michael Williams I mean I guess that wouldn't be that surprising like did they they want to add another corner? I'm not really so sure. I think it would probably be more of like a some somewhere along the defensive

line. I agree with that. There's a clip. I forget where I saw it, but I saw it this week with polls at the combine and kind of talking to his staff. Well, like we have to do a really great job at blocking out the noise of where mock drafts are going to tell you the guys are going to go or supposed to go or something like that. Right. So, you know, that kind of is in line with what you're talking about, Connor, like they might, you know,

maybe be kind of just staying in their own process in terms of player evals, big board, and they're not getting into this like jockeying position based off of all the nonsense that we're doing and the stuff that we're trying to kind of go through. Right. So they're very much in line. And that sounds kind of like how we, you would even land on a Darnell right as early as they did is that kind of that process continued to fold out there. So interesting. Definitely team to watch. I mean, defensive line makes a ton of sense if, if genties not there, like I'm joking about Canada grant, but just a kind of a bit at this point of work in it's a massive need for them. Right. So that might be a little bit early for them. But in terms of like, if I look at that roster, if you could

plug in an awesome interior defensive lineman, that seems like a great fit for the 2025 Bears. Yeah. I think, uh, who is it? Ben, Ben Devine. He's like a Bears kind of beat reporter slash like, I don't know, insider, whatever he refers to himself as, but he does report really well on the Bears. And I think he said something about how, yeah, Chicago views defensive tackles a much bigger need than defensive end and could consider trading up from 39. I mean, like, I don't know, like maybe that's a 10. I don't know. Like that's, that's an option if they view that to be the case or they kick some of their, they have a couple of guys who I think can play like both. that to be the case or they kick some of their they have a couple like guys who I think can play like both So I don't know like it's kind of interesting

Yeah All right there. They're an interesting one Yeah Jeff always talking shit bears will always suck. Nice. Thanks, Jeff You have Scott Kelvin banks going to the Niners. Kelvin Banks feels like someone that has had positive helium in the last week or so. Seemed like maybe there's some pro Kelvin Banks discussions early in the process or even late last football season. But now we've kind of moved back up. You have him going 11 to the Niners, who I think are also another team that positionally are pretty fluid. You know, they could use an edge.

They use a corner. They obviously could use offensive line town as well. Yeah, I just think Kelvin Banks is moving up. I think he's kind of solidifying himself to be in that top 15 for me. It's hard to drop him really past probably Miami here. I just think he's getting too much buzz. I think teams like what he brings to the table and a little bit of versatility to be able to move him

inside to guard if they wanted to. And then specifically when we look at the 49ers, like they need offensive line help. Trent Williams has been of stalwart in the league for years. He's getting up in age and, you know, they just need something else besides him. And I think Kelvin Banks is a possible player that they could play at one position and then you know If Williams gets hurt or if you know, he decides to retire or hold out because he's had some some contract discussions as well

I think he would be versatile enough for them to move around And I think teams are gonna grade him a little bit higher than what us is kind of doing. My dress probably will. Yeah, Connor, any additional thoughts on the Niners in those one? We kind of went back and forth a little bit last time we, we talked, um, we see price wise right now, offensive line, first position drafted for the Niners plus one 90 on Fandl, um, D line plus two 10 and then seizures has corner all the way out to four to one. Interesting. Yeah. So I mean, every year there's always a couple of randos on Twitter that I like

to follow that like are just different per team. And sometimes they pan out, sometimes they're just like the worst sources ever. So, you know, take this with a grain of salt, but they've also led to some like massive wins, you know, cuz like sometimes randos No stuff. But anyways, so this guy on Twitter his name is lobs all day lobs underscore all underscore day said Source told me 49ers are extremely high on Calabasas jr So much so these are number one ranked off the tackle in this draft class take that for what you will and he prefaced They were saying 49ers are taking him He'd the same guy told me about pure soul last year and I didn't believe him.

So this is very much a trust me, bro. I know, but I thought it was interesting. It was also like confirmation bias kind of where I was already trending anyways with like Calvin banks, kind of moving up draft board, like 49ers need an office of lineman. I think you'd be a good fit there. So I don't know. Lobbs all day.

You're on the chopping block. This is your time. You know, if it's not if he said Kelvin banks to Will Johnson It's not what come makes me will Johnson you're going to the shadow realm like all the rest of the randos if you're wrong So yeah, this is a great feature, you know using like the search engine of Twitter this is how I landed on the dad of the girl that rear-ended the dad of the girl that rear-ended Ted McMillan's brother's car. And then he said that he asked the brother and the raiders have showed the most interest in Ted. So like, you just never know, like you start digging in a little bit, like, okay, make a note of that. See if there's anything to that. So you just, the randos are, you know, this time of year, they don't even know what they're

reporting. They don't even know that they're reporting, right? They're just, they're just sharing some information that they got. So, so apparently Ted's brother, you know, ran into this little, this young girl's car, and they started talking. So just put that out there, 10 million to the Raiders based off of that small minor car accident there in Arizona. So, all right, Scott, Dallas, in Arizona. So, um, all right, Scott, but Dallas more drumbeat on a wide receiver. Uh, you have Matthew Golden landing there, um, staying in Texas. Any thoughts on, uh, on Dallas? Yeah, they, they just got to the meeting with him. I think he might be actually doing a top 30 visit today, maybe.

Um, so Dallas is known for, for meeting with a lot of the picks that they're considering here in the first round. So that makes a lot of sense. I know they showed up and did a local workout with him as well. So I just think he's there in their backyard. He's a need. We've talked about and heard a little bit of the tech

kinda moving down and having some issues. But I just think he's a better fit. Now, one thing I will say is that Dallas has met with a handful, pretty much all the top wide receivers here. So they they've shown Tet some some love as well with with a lot of the meetings and stuff that they had. But I just tend to think that the deep threat and the speed of Golden is going to reign supreme. And it's not a good look for some of the stuff that's come out on Tet

with him not loving football, him not watching film and some of the other stuff. And it's things like that when you see it and hear it directly out of the player's mouth. I think that it's going to turn heads a little bit for some players and some teams, I think, as far as like selecting Tet. And, you know, look, you've got guys, I value Steve Smith breaking down wide receivers and he's got Matthew Golden as his top wide receiver in this draft, excluding Travis Hunter. So I think you'll probably see some front offices kind of view things the same way. Some other ball knowers, Brett Coleman, one of them touched on, even though we have Golden running a like 429, he wasn't really used that way much

at Texas. I guess on the tape is not much of a field stretching presence, especially in comparison to a guy like Tet Macmillan, which is very interesting to me. Connor, I know there's, you know, definitely a pro-Tet hive and definitely a feels like a louder anti Ted hive, just, uh, interesting. Any thoughts on, you know, what you've heard in the last week or so, or anything on the golden Ted Dallas situation? I think it's just like a coin toss. So I dunno, that's kind of how I thought it's like the whole time basically.

And I don't think that was necessarily reflected in the market. Initially, I just think it's like 50 50. I would concede either of them going in like the 12 to 25 ish range to be honest Just based on like because they're just very different players So it's gonna be whatever flavor that team wants and decides they need I mean 13 now with you know The Dolphins with Tyreek Hill potentially, you know his whole thing up in the air Like they're probably in some play for wide receiver. Could they want Matthew Golden? Could they want Ted McMillan? I don't know. Like it's, we, I think there's a lot of other teams that are in play for wide receivers. I'm not necessarily sure which

is for which. Um, and then I think what's to Scott's point of like, Oh, he said that he doesn't love football. You know, like, I don't know if that matters as much personally, but I think that teams might think that that matters a lot or like something that might turn some, some football guys off a good bit, You know, again, like if it's even causing a little bit of rumbling for us and I feel like we're pretty, I don't know, well-centered people for the most part, you know, the football guys are going to be real pissed off with something like that. Yeah, I mean, I also feel like it was a little taken out of context. It was like, you know, I don't like watching, you know, like not watching tape extra. He's not watching extra tape.

Like he's not at home watching tape. We know we're going to watch it with the team. Uh, he was like, I don't know, it's like eating a bowl of cereal. Like he was just like, I don't know, it didn't feel like a super serious answer that he thought maybe it would even be circulated, which I thought was pretty interesting too. But, um, yeah, definitely want to continue to monitor that cause you've seen him going to 12 and then you definitely have some other folks that are you know dropping into that late 20s range where you start to see kind of the next group of of wide receivers

coming off the board Miami is interesting obviously we know Armstead retiring I don't think that they were surprised by that but it's a team that could use offensive line talent and you know they could use a wide receiver maybe now too based off of the Tyree Kill News safety is an area of need for them as well. Uh, Scott, you went with Starks, Malachi Starks first safety off the board here as a fit for Miami. Uh, obviously you had this in before any of that news. Uh, any thoughts on expanding on Miami? Yeah, I actually think this is kind of the floor for Kelvin banks. Um,

Miami is a team that I struggled to kind of project this go-around because I just think they have a lot of holes that they need to go ahead and fill. I went with Starks because he's been raved about as far as like what he brings to the table. I think he's been kind of projected a little bit low here. But you look at Miami and they've shown a lot of interest in the other safety from South Carolina as well. So I think with the defense and some of the stuff they need, I just kind of landed on Malachi-Starks because I struggled to really find other places, maybe Minnesota and a couple of other teams. So sometimes it's just when you struggle to really

find a fit, you kind of slot a player that you feel comfortable with going in the first round to a team that kind of has a need. But that was just kind of where I landed. Um, I don't have a ton of insight on Miami this year. I just think they, they, they have a ton of needs and I think offensive line could be another one. It's just trying to slot a player. Yeah. Is it true you went for sure? Uh, Connor Colts 14, uh, Scott 14. Scott has Tyler Warren going there. Obviously, tight end is I think probably one of the more common mock positions. I even think you have to lay a little bit to take Colts to take a tight end or like it's right around there at that point.

You're not a team that has just one need, which is obviously interesting too, in terms of you're trying to play off of some market uncertainty. The market feels pretty certain that the Colts are going that way. Any thoughts on where they're at when you've been mocking? Have you got given consideration to other positions other than tight end? No, but I probably should. I feel like Colts and Loveland though, it's just, I feel like he's getting more and more hyped. The more we go into it, they're just not necessarily like a spot that makes sense for him outside of the Colts. And then it's like a little bit of a dead range, I think for him. So it's kind of tough because I think that he's a very good player and like

people are like constantly hyping him up, even having him ranked over Tyler Warren. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him go significantly higher at like, again, 14, someone even had him seventh in there, which would be crazy. But, um, yeah, I don't know. I think that I probably need to dive in deeper into the Colts because I think that tight end being chalk, I'm not sure that that fully, I mean, it makes sense. I'm just not sure it should be as chalky as it is. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. It feels that kind of like the safety situation where you have two real clear guys definitely going, it feels like for the most part going in the first round, tight end, I would say so maybe even more so than safety but just

Stylistically could not be more different in terms of how you want to utilize that position schematically. So Yeah, they weren't can do it all and it's probably maybe a little less of a dynamic receiver and coastal level But probably pretty close whereas Lovin's very much Like I said big slot in same thing with the safety is more of a free safety box safety strong safety situation with with those two guys too. So it becomes pretty interesting in terms of like not just team need or you know positional need it becomes a little bit more fit piece of it too which I think is you know the struggle of what we're trying to do here. Falcons seem to me like a great spot for edge. I feel like we've all kind of been mocking that. And again, now you're basically minus 150 or so Scott for Falcons

to draft edge rusher defensive lineman. You went with Mikael Williams here from Georgia. Any thoughts on veering off of defensive line for the Falcons? No, not for me. And I specifically like to fit with Williams there. He's right there in the backyard at Georgia Starting SEC at age 18. I think when you start looking at Raheem Morris He's a coach that could probably help develop them and get the most out of them

I think the upside is there from a Kelle Williams and I just think Atlanta would be a perfect fit for him Call her I thought 16 was going to be the absolute floor for Jihad Campbell. We've had some Jihad Campbell, you know, labor issues in terms of, you know, hasn't really been able to kind of let it fly through the whole pre-draft process. We're seeing some people talk about him falling all the way out of the first round. What are your thoughts around the Cardinals? What are your thoughts on Jihad Campbell or anything to expand on at 16? The Cardinals have a lot of needs. So they've been mocked. Yeah, Campbell, Baron, Golden.

I think I had Derek Harmon. I think it could really be all over the place here. I don't honestly have too much of a take on the Cardinals. I think this is the start, start at the point of the draft where maybe I'll have like two to three takes. I'm like, oh, this feels pretty good. And other asks are kind of like, just piecing stuff together based on like random breadcrumbs that we can get in hopes of the best. For sure. It's just not a great, yeah, again, not a great pass rush. And it's not a great offball linebacker room. So again, the guy like Campbell who can bring that second level pressure,

it feels like just a nice chest piece for them. Um, it's got any thoughts on what you're doing here with the Cardinals. You went, uh, you went with Baron at corner, which I think again, another need for them and they could definitely use another, uh, outside corner. Yeah. And for me, it's really between kind of Baron and Campbell's dealing with injury. You start to hear a little bit from some other people that break down film that Baron's maybe not as high as what some other people think. I think even Daniel Jeremiah hinted that he thinks he might fall down into

20s as well. And aside from that, you start looking at maybe some of the defensive linemen here. I just think there's a lot that when you look at that Cardinals defense that they need to improve. So I just kind of went with my top rated player in Baron, who I think makes sense as far as a fit. But when you start looking at Campbell, I think it's a slot where we talked about a little bit before the show, I think 16 here to the Cardinals,

19 is where I ended up landing Campbell to the Bucs. I think either of these positions would make sense for him. And I haven't heard major concern about Campbell missing time going into the season due to this injury. I think it's something that from what I understand is recovering well. So I still think you're gonna have some teams that shy away. We don't have access to medicals and really know how teams deal with that a lot of the time. So I kind of edge on a

on a side of caution and go with the healthy player here. Yeah, I only get more of a sense on where teams see Baron because I know again last week Solak was talking about Baron. Didn't think Baron can go this high because he thinks Baron is a nickel, right? He thinks Baron is a slot corner. Really the only one of the only good thing I mean, Buda Baker is an absolute baller. Garrett Williams is a really good young slot corner. They drafted in the 2023 draft who they like a lot and has been really good when he's been on the field. So in terms of their needs, they need a perimeter corner, if anything. So in terms of like their needs, they would probably need a perimeter corner, if anything. So that'd be an interesting switch if maybe Campbell fell, I'm sorry, Will Johnson fell versus Baron being a specific for the Cardinals. All right. Take your time. Let's just kind of jump around here in the back half of the

draft. We typically do this, you know, poor teams in the back half don't get quite as much time, but is there, you know, any sort of team fit, player fit, player that's trending in the situation here? Connor we can bounce back a fourth year and kind of the back half of the first round here I guess we can kind of hang out in the low high teens low 20s here to start Yeah, I think that Omarion Hampton to the Broncos is gaining a ton of steam I mean, that's like one of the most popularly mocked picks right now And I think for good reason it it makes sense from, I mean,

a variety of standpoints, they've been talking about like wanting a joker, Amirion Hampton just like explosive player that can immediately help this offense. They talked about adding a running back for sure in the draft. They like openly admitted that. Now I think the Trevion Henderson could also be in play as well at pick 20 if Hampton's gone or even instead of Hampton. Like I think they could prefer one or the other. And in that case, Hampton probably goes the next,

you know, three, four picks after, because you're looking at, I mean, the Broncos want a running back, the Steelers want a running back, the Chargers want a running back, like that little range there, I think that at least two running backs could go. There's, this is a good running back class.

I wouldn't be surprised to see, you know, three plus running backs in this first round here. So I mean, Omar and Hampton, I think at 20 makes a ton of sense. And when I've heard it, they like him. So I think that's a good spot to have. No, I don't know if he goes any higher than that though. That's like the thing.

It says over under is 19 and a half, like minus 140 over, no, minus 140 under, plus 110 over. But who is gonna take him before that besides the the Bears I could name one team yeah so there's a somebody I know who knows Sean Payton personally and so this is just throwing one of those things out there yeah supposedly spoke with him a week ago and said that they love a Marion Hampton and that he thinks he's the next Deuce McAllister. He's compared them, you know,

and thinks very highly of them. The other thing, Nugget, that was thrown out in that conversation is that they want him very badly, that they're not covering it up, but they have concerns specifically about the Chargers possibly moving up ahead of them to take a Marianne Hampton. So that was one of the concerns and just a little nugget that I've heard from somebody here locally.

Um, there's been some other buzz. It's not, it's not a secret at this point connecting Amarion Hampton to Denver. You'll see that probably in multiple mocks. I think the local guys there in Denver are all saying the same. So there's a lot of smoke and fire there towards connecting Hampton with Denver. It's just, is Hampton going to go ahead and make it down there? And if he doesn't make it down there, then I think you do see Trevion Henderson, um, and maybe a little bit of a trade back, um, a couple of spots.

And I think he comes into play for Denver. That's a tough way to gauge things. Like if you're like, Oh, a team behind me is going to move up in front of me. It's not even like I need to move it up in front of this team. It's like, Oh, I'm worried about the charters moving up in front of us. So then we have to move up preemptively. Interestingly enough, that if they're worried about that. So last year, if you go back to the Bo Nicks scenario, they, I think we're shitting their pants that the Raiders or someone else is going to move up after them. And they like, you know, came out that I think it was Sean Payton was like, oh, we played Minnesota so bad, or someone else so bad. They're like, you know, we actually didn't want JJ McCarthy one bone X all along. I have a feeling that they're probably just going to stand Pat and like, just like hold out like they like, I mean, like they did for the quarterback, you know, I mean, if they did with their quarterback, then they can do with the running back. But maybe maybe it's not a Mario and happened that they want. Maybe it's Shavey on Henderson. Like, maybe they're just like leaking as much Hampton as they want just to get Henderson.

Maybe it's Shaveon Henderson. Like maybe they're just leaking as much Hampton as they want just to get Henderson. That wouldn't be surprising either. But either way, I think that they take some kind of skill player here because they need some more juice on that offense. The one thing I will note when it comes to Sean Payton is that he's notorious for running his mouth prior to the draft in certain circles. And it's easy to sit there and say, well, last year they did this with Bo Nicks, but they also sat tight.

And it was well known that when Mahomes was coming out down here in New Orleans, that they were interested in getting Mahomes. And they ended up going ahead and sitting tight and Kansas City kind of jumped them. So they've made moves when he was here with New Orleans to trade up and get players. But also when you look at running back, he kind of sat tight and got Alvin Kamara later or so. He's got some history of doing both things. But I think it is malpractice to move up to get a running back.

So I think you need to, you're probably right. They do go ahead. I don't think that they move up to get them. You know, maybe another team does or maybe another team takes Hampton, but I think both Hampton and Trevion Henderson will be in play for Denver when it comes draft day. Yeah. A lot of good Trevion Henderson steam. We just, before we went live,

we're talking about vetting over two and a half running backs In the first round because it was hanging out like plus 240. Um Some of that's continued to steam brian jumped in the chat. Uh, I was talking about it, too We were trying to hold off to the end of the show But we just pushed that out as well because it started to steam to like plus 175 or so Um, so I don't know where it stands now, but it would definitely feel pretty good about there being enough outs towards the backend of, of having, um, you know, Hampton and Henderson here in the back of this first round. So still plus money, probably a pretty good bet.

If you're looking to get down on something now, yeah, it could be, I mean, I can't even find second running back off the board right now. I'm just trying to look at a couple of different spots. Maybe they pulled it. I don't even know if that's a market, to be honest. Like, I don't even find second running back off the board right now. I'm just trying to look at a couple of different spots. Maybe they pulled it. I don't even know if that's a market, to be honest. Like, I don't know. I think it was. Yeah. Maybe not, but I thought it was.

But all right. Yeah. The charges are interesting. Charges moving up to get a running back would be really peculiar to them. They signed Najia Harris. They have wide receiver needs. They have interior defensive line needs. They could be a really busy team,

but for them to move up could be could be pretty interesting. I see you did go with Schmurr Stewart Green Bay. Many thought on Green Bay with. Corner Scott or you know, I think Stewart's a great fit there as well with maybe some discussion around Jairo Alexander moving on somewhere else in the trade.

Yeah, I think they're definitely in play for a corner. I just tend to think that they're more of a trades based team whenever they're drafting. I think you really have to look at what corners are available here. I don't see them necessarily reaching for a corner if you've got Baron and Will Johnson both off the board. So I tend to lean a little bit more towards the edge You kind of want to figure out where to slot smart Stewart I think we talked about it a couple weeks ago when we did our mock our live mock and I just think He's a player that makes sense for them I know they've met with James Pierce, but it's interesting when you're looking at the edge rushers that are left here in the back

Back part, you know, you've got James Pierce and Mike Green that both have some off the field concerns as far as is that going to push them back? And you've got Shamar Stewart, who doesn't necessarily have off the field concerns, but has production concerns that when you're trying to match his measurables to what he did at the combine where he just blew it away. Is he an Olympic athlete who is trying to play football? You know, it's, you've got some concerns about getting the most out of him, but you look at Green Bay and they're,

they're a team that likes players that perform while the combine. So I kind of think he's a good fit there for, for Green Bay over what some of the other cornerback and secondary options are. You brought Luther Burden back into the first round. That's someone that I think early in the process people thought would be in the first round, um, seemed to be sliding that there was necessarily, um, any poor reporting per se. I mean, there was some like, um, you know, well, not a great locker room guy, uh, but what happened with, uh,

Luther Burden that made you want to bring it back in. I just like the fit, man. I really like the fit there with the Rams, put him in the Cooper Cup role, roll out with Devontae Adams and Puka. And I think he could really cause some problems. I think when you look at McVeigh and what he does, he has a very specific vision for players when they draft him. And look, the Rams front office, they haven't had first round picks for a while, but they've killed it whenever they've gotten it.

You know, last year with verse, you know, a couple of years ago getting Puka, like they usually, if they have a fit and they have a specific player, they usually hit. So it's just really taking a shot. You won't see, I think, burdens, like you said, a player that's kind of fallen out of most mocks in the first round. Um, there are some, some advanced analytic issues where, you know, him

catching a lot of balls, I think 75% of the balls are within, you know, 10 yards or so, but you start to look at what Cooper Cupp did and how he was able to uncover out of the slot and some of the other stuff, I think McVeigh could have a very good vision for how he would want to use a player like Burden. Plus 850 on Fandl for first position drafted for the Rams being wide receiver. So well, worth a sprinkle maybe. Connor, anything else in back end here that team player, someone on the rise and the matchups that you be like?

Yeah, something that I played personally that was, I mean, just no one would play it in our discord because it's too ridiculous. I played under four and a half cornerbacks at minus 200. Uh, and that's up to minus two 80. I still, I think it should be like minus 500 because so it includes Hunter. So you're talking about Hunter Baron, Will Johnson, and then you need both of Harrison and Trey Amos to be in. You need both of them. So like with probably, I guess is the next conversation

with Jackson Dart, with Jalen Milrow, with Trevion Henderson, probably all getting into the first round. I mean, not probably. Trevion Henderson probably, Jalen Milrow there's way more high for it now. Like some of these guys are gonna get pushed out. Like it's just gonna,, like some of these guys are going to get pushed out. Uh, like it's just gonna, it's some of these guys are gonna. So you're talking about Maxwell Harrison.

Yeah. He ran super fast. Yes. I do think a team that maybe the late twenties is going to pick him. Uh, there's also rumors, Daniel Jeremiah said, today Barron's like gonna be a mid twenties guy and something he was having as a second rounder. Like that was like, they, like they said, he's just like a lit mid. He said he loves him, but he said all the teams he talks to are like, yeah, he's like going to be around in the twenties. So that again, pushes all these guys even more down. So I think three, four and a half under four and a half corners is like a good bit short,

even at current price. Again, it's not a bet for everyone. No one likes that kind of shit. But if you have the bankroll and you can get down on it, like I think it's a good bet. Another thing is looking at like evaluations for corners. Um, Shavin Revel Jr. Is a cornerback that a lot of people were high on as far as his play and his development, but he got hurt. He's been killing it on the top 30 circuit, meeting with teams cause he hasn't

been able to work out, but he's a player that if he didn't have an injury, he'd be considered here in the first round. But because of his injury status, I don't think he goes anywhere in the first round. And my understanding is that a lot in the majority of teams have him higher than Hairston and Amos and some of these other cornerbacks that you'd start to consider there in the first round. Okay. Yeah. I mean, in terms of outs that are really clean on the board, it feels like the Rams would kind of need to be one of those corner outs.

Right. If the Rams went and deviated and didn't take a corner, you know, I definitely agree that like you're going to want to have that under four and a half corner ticket. It could still land under anyway. I do like, I did that myself personally at like plus 350 Buffalo to take a corner at 30. I think it's kind of right around there 320 or so now. So we didn't massively move the market, but it definitely think it's a good look for the bills as well. But I think I can make a good point.

There's maybe some more variants on Baron, depending on if anyone sees them outside of just being a nickel, that makes it a little bit trickier, but the teams do, that's, it's really hard to take a nickel, you know, in the teens are, you know, inside that, uh, that position. So yeah, probably a pretty, probably a pretty good look.

Um, well, it's anyone else that's kind of steaming that Josh, uh, Simon's is a guy that people loved knee injury issues. It feels like there's been better Josh Simon's stuff as of late feels like he's kind of moving in, uh, closer to the back end of first rounds more frequently Scott you have him going 31st to Kansas City, which would be I think a home run pick for them make a ton of sense I've seen some discussion on you know running back a running back spot there as well, which is would be very very peculiar They've done that before With not a lot of success, so I don't know if that would make them pause at all

But I guess anything here in the final stretch of six seven teams there Connor I did wanna well, I think we need to have this the Jalen Milrow discourse. Yeah, what are you guys buying? So, you know the NFL announced earlier this year that they were gonna limit the amount of teams that are players that they're inviting the Comite to avoid like the draft day, you know, players sitting in the green room by himself looking sad, like pouting, you know, the whole draft day experience. And then they go ahead and they invite Jalen Milro, who accepts an invite to the first round or to the event. In my opinion, that's some signal that teams like him, people have mocked him to Pittsburgh people have said that

Pittsburgh loves him and would take him at 21 I there's no way to really bet that right now it's out of like Pittsburgh take a quarterback which is like plus 300 I don't know I mean like to me that there's got to be some signal there with it so I think that he probably sees him the first round I just I don't know if I want to bet it. I don't want to lay the juice on over two and a half quarterbacks, like minus 300 right now. Um, but there's a lot of outs to win that as it stands right now.

Who I struggle getting Milro into the first round. Um, you know, it's, it's like you said, like I've heard some of the same rumors from, you know, football boards, random Twitter guys that, in a couple of podcasts that Milro is in consideration there for Pittsburgh, but we don't know what's going to happen when Shador Sanders. So does Shador Sanders fall to that 21 spot? If he makes it past a couple of other teams that we talked about, would they pick Shador over Milro? Is that a situation? I think the issue comes down to what you saw last year out of Millrow passing. It just looks and seem like he lost confidence in passing.

Even when he went to the senior bowl, he really just didn't throw the ball well, didn't take shots down the field. When two years ago when he's at his peak, he's probably better than most of the other quarterbacks in his draft. He just hasn't been there for a while and I don't know how a team is gonna evaluate him and especially a team like Pittsburgh who needs somebody to play now. I just look at Milro more of a little bit of a developmental player that might take two years. I don't see, you know, a team

really reaching for him in the first round, even with the physical tools that he has. Yeah, they don't have a long-term answer quarterback though, but right now, and this is, I don't even know what it was, but it's definitely, I'm sure, shrunk over the last week or so. Milro, 10-1, second quarterback off the board, right? You got, that would have to be the only way you can kind of bet into this, and it's not even like a clean way to bet into this, right? You got, that would have to be the only way you can kind of bet into this. And it's not even like a clean way to bet into this, right? You're talking about him going, you know, ahead of, of should or, and Jackson Dart, but that's not even really what this implies specifically. So not a great betting opportunity currently to speculate on.

That was 80 to one, by the way, like three days ago, four days ago. Um, so I don't, yeah, I mean, I'm not betting 10 to one on second quarter. A better bet. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. They do one, that's fine. But 10 to one, no thanks. Yeah.

All right, gents. Yeah, that's all I got. I shared Buffalo. I think Corner is a great spot for them based off of a price currently. There's more talk about Philly taking a tight end, but not necessarily Colston-Lovelland, a spot for them based off of price currently. There's more talk about Philly taking a tight ends, but not necessarily Colston Loveland, but Scott has Colston Loveland going all the way down there. That seems pretty interesting. What is the Eagles first position drafted numbers on tight end?

It feels like it's gets really tricky first position drafted stuff when you're talking about really like the thirties late twenties, cause again, so much can happen, but a plus nine 50 on Fandual, a tight end first position drafted for the Eagles. So probably not a bad sprinkle to be honest. So, um, Scott, anything else with people? No, not much. I mean, really just trying to get through some of the,

some of the meetings that updated my board today as far as like top 30 visits and tracking some of it down. I think really, this is where I start to kind of hone in. And when you start to see certain teams doing multiple visits at one position group, you can kind of start narrowing down where you're going to go as far as your mock drafts as far as like a position team match. So that's really where I'm kind of looking at right now. You know, teams like the Texans, I like the Texans to really reach

and get an offensive line, whether that's interior or a tackle. I think they're going to go ahead and do some of that. That's something that makes sense. I like the fit with Tyler Booker there. And like I said, really, it's just tracking down some of the latest information, going into the down some rabbit holes on Twitter X and some other places and, you know, seeing who's gotten into a little fender bender, how we can find some information from. You never know buddy.

I just got to use that search feature. It came back. It was dead for a little bit. I think the search feature, especially on desktop, you can go into the advanced settings and you can really start to use it. You never know. You can find out about car accidents and draft visits. So car or anything else, people can head over to the site, 404.com.

Check out your mock draft three along with obviously Scott's 2.0. You got anything for the people? Yeah, we're going to be releasing some more bets. I got a bunch cooked up, just kind of letting the markets marinate for a little bit longer. And then we have, you know, I think three or four that are pretty solid coming out. So we're going to release a bunch more bets and yeah Cook, it's going to be good. So I will ramp up here as we get closer. So move the line. We're going to listen to the podcast for four bets on the YouTube channel. Subscribe so you don't miss any of that.

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