Move The Line - 2026 NFL Draft Player Prop Bets! | Top Picks, Predictions & Odds

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

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Hello and welcome to move the line. More draft discussion. Ryan Noon here, joined as always by Connor Allen. Scott Smith, special guest today coming in. He's against Friday. Six days out this time next week.

We'll be talking about draft grades, you know, hopefully celebrating our wins. But I have to bring in a gentleman today at Fantasy Law Guy. He's been with us before. If you are in the draft at all, you are not following Nick. If you were looking for draft content in that coming years,

this man needs a part-time job. So you can obviously see he is educating the youth of America. Nick, welcome back to the show. So glad to have you. What's going on? Hey, this is awesome. Thank you guys for having me on. It's always a pleasure.

I watch this show every single Friday. Well, I know a lot about what these two think. So we're going to be leaning on you pretty heavily today. I'm again, you know, I haven't talked to these guys for a couple days and things have continued to shift as we know happens this time of year. So we're going to lean heavy on your thoughts. We're going to kind of do what we did the other day. We're going to get through the end, though. We're going to run through a mock draft of where we're staying now, try to do our best to build a consensus.

We try to tie in some of the betting markets as that continues to take shape, more liquidity there. Connor just launched. I know he's been grinding in the back with Claude for a couple months trying to get some stuff out there. Connie, you want to tell the people what you just went live with today finally over at 4-4-4? Yeah, I built a NFL draft insider tool that essentially looks at all the different trades happening on Cal She and Polymarket, which if you think about it are like, for years, we've been like looking at Bookmaker and different kinds of steam there. Now you can actually see the trade-by-trade come in. So I built a feed that you can see that. You can filter by the biggest trades in the last X amount of time, filter it by odds, player, all that stuff.

And so ideally, like again, this was spurred by last year, Ted McMillan dropped from 12 to 1 to even like an hour before the draft on Bookmaker. And I was like, well, this is crazy. And there was still some 12 to 1s out there and some sale books. So I tailed for no other reason than a book that's taking $1,000 of click is moving. And, you know, it turns out that money matters in this stuff. So ideally can track some of that in the prediction market stuff. I tweeted out the link. And maybe we'll share it today from time to time if there's something applicable.

But I think it's a pretty cool tool. Yeah, head over to Connor now in NFL on Twitter. You can find that 4 for 4 we have that as well. So check it out. Great tool. Again, you know, prediction markets too. We have no amount. You know, it's not been something we've always had on domestics,

especially with like to go in round one or to be a top 10 pick, having the ability to lay no on those things is part start to see a little bit more liquidity here to be able to pick up and scoop some of that up here in the next week or so. We, we talk about like bridge jumpers and like I think, you know, like at the end of like, the day when I just have like a bunch of credit laying around in accounts or like even in kelchie or polymarket or whatever like I'm just gonna rip like 95 percent or nose and just like just put the rest of whatever money I have into these like random things so I think it's a sharp move and like like we haven't really had the ability to do that prediction market wise until now because like

before we wouldn't get the no on things a lot now we can bet like no top 10 for a guy who's like just never been in the mock 10 is no shot to be in the top 10 and like it's like yeah you get 2% it's something I would normally never do, but an hour before the draft, why not? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, bridge jumping, I think, is a fantastic way to phrase it for sure. Those go sideways, those are, could be challenging. Scott, what's going on with you today? Oh, nothing much, man, grind in.

I was telling Connor before the show, it kind of took me a little while to, like, hit that flow state of getting really excited and getting zoned in. But look, the more information comes out, the more, you know, I've got my draft board set and grinded through all these visits and as much info as I can. So I'm pretty pumped. I'm happy to have Nick on. I think he's the most underrated guy in the mock draft and draft communities over there. Pichinese high school, there's NFL draft 101, you know, three hours out of the day.

So I'm ready to go. Yeah, absolutely love it. So let's get started. Kind of you want to bring up the mock screen. We'll walk back through our process. Nick, I'm going to come to you. I kind of have an understanding of what these guys want to do. I think we can put Mendoza in it one.

unless anyone has any, you know, discrepancies there. Nick, too, it's where we started this year. You know, and again, I think you do a really good job and your Twitter's done a really good job. It kind of basically, you know, this is such an if this, then that kind of puzzle, right? And I think it obviously starts at two because there's such a trickle-down effect of how these scenarios break out.

But obviously, David Bailey, Arvel Reese. You know, Connor was really early on Arvel Reese. you know, those bags have been packed. And I think he's trying to come back in. He's balancing those, the books here a little bit. But where are you at in terms of what you think is happening with the Jets of PIC2 and all the David Bailey, you know, workout stuff and private meeting, etc?

I don't have strong conviction on PIC2. It's one that I haven't bet on either side. And it's one that I actually did flip in my mock draft whenever all the big analysts came out and seemed to think per other teams, it was Bailey. phrasing was kind of confusing when they used it. It's like, well, other teams seem to think it's going to be Bailey.

They haven't, like, you know, put their stamp on it yet. So I found it to be a little indirect of information here. But if it comes out, you know, I think we'll know more on Monday when they take the weekend. They call their GMs. I think we're going to last Monday before the draft, the week of, that's where we found a lot of information, right? So I'm kind of just kind of waiting for that to kind of settle too. And then I really think, I think, I think, based on kind of my experience on this, that we're going to have a better feel of what happens at two.

And I really think three is where this draft's going to end up starting. I really kind of doubt that we're going to go into draft day, like with this being 50-50. I did recently make a switch in my mock. It seems like I switched to Bailey. And then I kind of just switched back today now to Arvel Reese. He seems to be the favorite there. I'm kind of following the betting market. But I don't have strong conviction either way, because I can, could just see either argument here, whether you want to take the younger player, whether, or whether you just want the solid kind of double is that they're saying right now in David Bailey. I put a little more stock on this character stuff, though. So if I had to break a tie, I'm going to go with the person who I think fits the better character.

And you see rave reviews on Rvel Reese and like Dane Bruegler's guide and stuff like that. Aaron Glenn's kind of an old school guy. He's going to want someone with maybe the better character. there was some kind of sketchy notes about David Bailey's character and Bruegla's guide. So to me, that's going to be the tiebreaker, not to mention the age there. So if we really don't have any other intel coming in, that for me is going to be the tiebreaker. But I have a feeling that, you know, at some point, Jeremiah, all these big guys are going to make their call. And we'll see kind of what happens next week.

Yeah, I mean, we got to touch on it. So the canceled visit came out yesterday after our show. I bet on Reese for a while. And it was so wild because I saw the canceled visit. And my mind was like immediately like, all right, this is going to be Arval Reese minus 200 in like five minutes. The amount of differences there like made me rethink everything. I was like like, like the differences in opinions were like,

oh, well, they're canceling it because they know they're picking David Bailey. And so it made me take a step back and like, okay, maybe I'm just too close to, you know, the situation here. and like, you know, maybe I'm misthinking about it, like, nothing about this correctly. So then I decided, I'm like, okay, well, let me think about this again, go see if any, this ever happened with the top five pick in history that they've had a visit plan, canceled it, and then still taking the guy. If anyone has found it, let me know.

I'm still looking. There's no precedent for this happening. And so then I was like, obviously reaching out to people like, hey, what's up? And in conjunction with this, there's rumblings of a very poor David Bailey interview with the Jets as well in the background. So when you put those two things together, and I had already been on Reese for a while for a variety of reasons, and you talk about like the schematic fits we've talked about, you know, at nauseam about out here. Like to me, I just keep adding more Reese. I wake up every day.

I look at the board. I look at survey everything. Well, what's going on? And I'm like, this is crazy. Like plus money, even money. Minus 120 is nuts. My bags are packed at this point. Like, you know, I guess I could get out of it if I felt really strongly than me Bailey.

but I think I'm pretty much locked in at this point. So, on Riech. Reese, Reese Bailey becomes a bridge jumper for, for Connor. I mean, you know,

the bridge is, I'm halfway down. I'm halfway out of the bridge already. You know, it's tough. What did you make from the, I kind of agree with Connor, like a polarizing announcement,

basically, and the market didn't really do anything with it because you very easily could just see two very differentiating opinions, you know, in a matter of seconds based off of what people interpret that to be. So my logic to the whole situation is that I've been on Arval Reese from the jump. My second mock draft that I kind of used to give a different look of how things might go.

And I even mentioned it that, you know, I kind of put Bailey at number two just to mess with Connor with all the bags that he had on Reese. But like, if you look at the offseason and some of the comments that Aaron Glenn has made, he's talked about versatility. And I don't remember who exactly I heard say it, but they were going through and talking about things. And I think there is some argument within David Bailey's tape of being able to stack up against the run, having McDonald on the other side,

and possibly having to have Bailey off the field on certain rundowns and some things like that. You know, he's great as a past rush there, had a historical year. And then you've had the other things about, you know, Aaron Glenn needs some that can come in and do this now. Well, I think Arvel Reese can stay on the field every down. You can use his versatility in multiple different sets across your base package. Is he going to be the best turn and run guy and cover it? Maybe not, but that's not Bailey either. I look at it, and I just think with what I've heard Glenn say, and, you know, especially during the draft, is it a situation where the Bailey information was coming out in case you have a team

like Arizona that is really high on Bailey and maybe wanted to move up to where the Jets can get an extra pick to move down one spot and still get their guy in Arvel Reese. There's things like that happen all the time during draft season. I feel a little bit more strongly towards the Arvel Reese side of things that he's going to be the pick and that's probably who I'm going to have in my mock draft. I just think you kind of hit the perfect momentum of McShea and Schrager and then. of Jeremiah all coming out on the side of Bailey at two based upon some things they heard. And I think that just swung things so far in Bailey's direction where you never really had a

strong confirmation from jets, especially with all of the local beat reporters that cover the Jets strongly on the Rees side. So I tend to think it's Reese, especially with this issue of the visit getting canceled. And that's kind of where I'll probably be when it comes next Thursday. And McShay and Jeremiah are already backtracking. McShay today on the show said, all right now, like I texted my guy over the weekend after canceled visit. He said, yes, we canceled the visit. And then he's like, well, what's up?

What's the deal? And he didn't answer. Like, I mean, this is, you know, clear sign. McShay is already like, all right, I'm spooked. Daniel Jeremiah is like, I lean Bailey, but I don't know anymore, basically. So after coming out and be like, it's Bailey and everything got aggregated and it blew up. And the odds went from Arbo Reese minus 200 to David Bailey minus whatever 170 or whatever at one point. I mean, we're backed on even.

And I think this is going to go one direction. If it doesn't, we're going to get close odds, I think, up until the end. And it's going to be a sweaty Thursday. It already is going to be a sweaty Thursday. But, you know, it's, I'm just going to be adding. And right now we're sitting at Arvell Reese minus 130 and David Bailey plus 115. Yep. All right.

So before we move on in the mock section, I want to kind of tackle this collectively. Because, Nick, I want to see where you're at in terms of the impact of what happens at two and how that's actually going to impact your pick at three because i think based off of what we've done together collectively the three of us prior to having you on today is we've all kind of landed on we had two as a different bat and then you know like but whoever's left over goes three um to the cardinals and now again the cardinals are a team that have a lot of needs offensive linemen's been rumored there that would make a ton of sense there as well you know, right tackle in particular.

Are you impacted by what happens at two with three or are you landing at three or wherever you are regardless of what happens to the Jets at two? All right. Yeah, if we're trying to mix it up for the sake of mixing it up, I actually am kind of on, I don't want to say I'm on team Malanoa there. I'll pause there though. I don't want to mix it up to mix it up. I want to know what you would do or what you're going to mock right now.

Like what do you think is going to happen? Right now I have Francis Malanoa at three. And that is because I don't know if it's a sure thing that the Cardinals are going to be able to move back. I think they're going to try to move back. That seems pretty obvious there. I think several teams are going to try to move back. But the Malanoa stuff, just kind of reading through the T-Leish, these dominoes are kind of starting to stack here. The Cardinals' offensive line, 58 out of 85 possible starts among their starters last year.

They were a very injured offensive line. We don't really know who their right tackle is as of now, whether it's a lot of a competition Wilkinson Pryor who's going to start there. It's not going to be either of them, probably not. And then you have a situation where they're rumored to get Ty Simpson later in round one, maybe early in round two. I don't think they're going to throw him in there or make that play without having some kind of book-in tackle situation.

And even though they expect to resign Paris Johnson, he is answering a contract year. So I just think that's worth noting here. They allowed 59 sacks last year. that was 28th in the league. I just feel like Arizona just wants to support their future quarterback, whoever it is, whether it's Simpson or 2027 quarterback in a stack class, it's probably best to do so with tackles. Now, they may trade down and do it.

I could definitely see that happening right now. But they also might not be able to trade down. Maybe they move a couple spots like they did a couple years ago with Paris Johnson. It's a similar vibe to me. So right now I have Malanoa going there, Reese, two, Malanoa 3, and David Bailey, four. But that is definitely the minority among the mocking community right now. Let me ask you this.

If you were to get, we got concrete info where he felt, you know, relative concrete info, and you felt that it was going to be David Bailey, two to the Jets. Would you still go Mauiowa to the Cardinals at three? That would actually give me a more conviction on this. And it's tough to mock because it's tough to mock a trade at this point without having further intel. In reality, like, I really think that Cardinals really do want to trade down. And, you know, you're trying to mock team matches there. So in reality, I think it's not, you know, even 50-50 that they would take Malanoa at three overall.

But to me, I do think that they would prefer David Bailey over Reese. I'm buying the arguments about the ownership for even the fans, even kind of getting a little weary or apprehensive about drafting another hybrid player. And I actually don't even care that much whether it's a good argument or not. I just think it's something that probably comes up in the scouting room. And it's something that gives a little bit of trepidation, a little bit of hesitation there because of all their kind of past failures at that kind of thing. At the end of the day, I think they just want a safe pick here.

Now I know has had one top 30 visit throughout the entire process, despite a back issue, which is very, very, very rare. Like usually you're using top 30 visits on things like back issues to check up. To me, it screams that, I don't know, like Arizona is just really interested in them. And no other team, I don't know, no other teams really making movements there. Yeah, this is an interesting, interesting spot there. Connor, are you locked in, still thinking two, three, anything Nick had there, you know, put Malamoa on your radar there for the Cardinals. I don't know where you're at with that.

I think it could easily be Malanoa. I have very much, way less conviction there at three. I think I'm probably going to have one of the, I'm probably going to have Bailey there. But, you know, I think it could easily Malanoa could definitely flip before Thursday. And I think because we're talking about this, I think that I don't know if we want to, you know, get into four, but I do think that it's, the Titans would take one of Reese or Bailey if, if they're still there or love if they're not there. So it's kind of like interesting. I feel more strongly about that than three. I have no idea at three. Like I'm just like, because I do think they want to trade back like you said, because it makes,

thinking about this today, if they trade back, right, they can get the ammo to trade up for Ty Simpson. And it's like basically, you know, a wash, right? Like, you know, they can get more ammo there to like end up making it like the, and getting the player they wanted at three, which is Franz Malano and get their quarterback. So I think that makes sense, but the question is who trades up? So, yeah. Scott, you got some ideas?

So look, I think I kind of look at Cardinals and I think it's Moni Austin for its last stand. And I look at it and I think he does want to move down. The two teams that I think would move up would be New Orleans and Kansas City. I think you have Kansas City, if they're really serious about wanting a defensive end edge rusher that they're, they're serious about, they have two picks that they can move up if they have a strong reservation

about Bailey versus, you know, a guy like Ruben Bain going down. Now, the Saints, when it comes down to it, I just think Mickey Loomis is he's not been scared to trade up. He's not been scared to mortgage future picks for the next year's draft to do so. I think when you look at the defense and how, you know, Staley has been successful, he needs an explosive edge rusher. I think if it comes down to it right now and the Saints stay at 8, I would tend to lean a little bit more towards Tyson over Bain. But if they have an opportunity to get one of these guys, I think the Saints are going to value Reese a little bit more over Bailey. I think the Saints will at least make a phone call to explore the option and see what it's going to cost to get there. And then it also puts those two teams at eight and nine to allow the Cardinals to move down and still be within range to possibly grab Maui Noah if he is their guy or Spencer Fenno.

But I think when it comes to Austin Ford, I think he is looking to still grab the right tackle, recoup some extra draft capital. And I think right now the Cardinals make the most sense to the team that I think would be targeted in on a Ty Simpson. Yeah, and to Scott's point, I don't think there's a lot of, they could actually get Malanoa at nine. There's not a lot of teams that seem to be in competition. You're looking at the Titans are probably not going to take one. It seems like the, you know, it seems like the Giants are moving in direction where they're not going off

it's of line. The Browns may take one. Like that seems obvious there. I doubt the commanders do. I doubt the Saints do. and then there's the other one right there. So if they like Fano and Mowanoa, it looks like Nines, a very attractive spot.

And whereas, like Ryan just mentioned, Dallas, there's a big difference between 9 and 12 if they moved to Dallas and they can't get those two first round picks. And the big difference is Miami at 11, right? Because Miami's going to take the other one. If Mawanoa or Fano is on the board, I personally think that those are going to be at the top of their board at that point. So if you can move to nine, you're way more like.

likely to still be able to get Bono or Malinot who can slide in immediately. Yeah. That's the problem with the exercise is there's so many singular triggers that, you know, change player and position, right? It's like, it's, you know, it's not just a one for one. Oh, easy to cross off this guy and we just go next in line of the position. They're definitely going to be teams that have sizable teardrops. And it's like, well, no, I'm not trying to prefer the top of the wide receiver pile

then what's available at old lineman two or three and that's tricky so all right well keep the train moving the sake of what we're doing here um let's pop in a pick for the jets at two um i think we're good with arvel Reese i'm not i'm not even not well i'm not taking other answers right now so for the next week um totally good with it unless you hear otherwise um you know i'm walking in arvel uh three what do we want to do here i guess this is like we talked about it um i'm fine either way i'm again i'm probably going to have Bailey, but I think Francis is very much live and it makes the mock, at least for four, five, six look a bit different. And terrifying a little bit.

I'll be honest. It gets real tricky. The one thing I would say is that this pick is very important. And I think when we start talking about Tennessee, the way my board is set up for Tennessee right now, I would have them selecting David Bailey over Jeremiah Love. I don't know so much that Arvel Reese, you know. You know, they've had multiple visits with R. Val Reese and David Bailey, but I tend to think that Tennessee would value Bailey a little bit higher for what they want to run.

And I have Bailey right now going to the Cardinals because I think they may have trouble finding that trade partner. They may have to come off of what has traditionally been the trade value for this pick for teams moving up. So I think they'll have to not necessarily take pennies on a dollar, but have to discount what they get in return. but you know i have bailey and if if bailey is not there that's the pick for me for tennessee if bailey goes at three then i think it's jeremiah love for tennessee i i agree i echo that sentiment so how do we want to make this pick we're just like coin flip i don't know i mean it seems like i think us three are on probably bailey here for three and it seems like nick is on noah um we discussed Okay, we discussed our original scenario on Monday.

Let's go with Malanoa here because we already went through this exercise on Monday with Bailey and then Love 4 and then we went there. I think we should go with Malanoa to play out this alternative because maybe it'll come to some other bets. Let's go with Franz this year. Yeah, I did this today. I did this at a different inflection point at like eight, nine where I like mixed up a little bit.

Like this could very well happen. And if it does, there's a really sizable trickle down effect. So I do think that the exercise is kind of important. the walkthrough. Now again, looking at Tennessee and what they've done this offseason, it's still a team that needs defensive line help without a doubt. They have spent through the trade market and a free agency a lot of offseason resources already on the defensive line. This is why I would be comfortable in some other scenarios where Jeremiah I love would be the pick. Now, David Bailey being available does mix that up a little bit. That's

kind of why I kind of buy into I guess kind of what Scott says there where Reese maybe slides a little bit if he happened to not go three in the scenario whereas I could still see Tennessee going Jeremiah love if it's a decision between Reese and love if that makes sense just based off of the hybrid nature of it so but yeah we already kind of taking care of that so now that we've had this play out the way that we are Nick it was just clear to you like it is to Scott that David Bailey would be the preference for Tennessee with both Bailey and Love on the board. It is.

I actually agree 100% there. I think that it goes, David Bailey. I still think they probably take Arvallis, but I have less conviction there over Jeremiah Love. I like the argument that Jeremiah Love might put some fans in the seats, a new stadium, that kind of stuff,

star, help for your new quarterback. But man, Robert Sala, just so many defensive line picks right there. of five years in San Francisco. He goes to the Jets, then takes Jermaine Johnson, goes back to the Niners, and then gets Mikel Williams. Like everywhere, Sala goes, they just take defensive line in the first round. He wants a stable of rotation there. I think David Bailey, that's probably the guy, I think, is all at once.

They traded already for Jeremiah Johnson to bring him back to Tennessee. Boy, there in the D.C., Jacob Martin had a nice little back end of the year last year with the commanders. they brought him in the town, John Franklin Meyer, Solomon Thomas, Jordan Elliott. They've been very busy in the offseason adding to the defensive line. But again, David Bailey, more of a top tier prospect, kind of a nice edge rusher to compliment Jermaine Johnson as well if they were making it. So go ahead, Connor. We can go with David Bailey here.

We had that pick to be Jeremiah Love, but this changes things. It also changes what seemed to be pretty clearly to us, sunny styles at five. for the Giants. Connor, now we have to kind of maybe have a Stiles Jeremiah love conversation

with the Giants. It's kind of how this is kind of transpired. Yeah, like the last, what has it been two days maybe? I think we had Jordan Renan

come out, you know, Giants Be Reporter basically say that Harbaugh would love to have Jeremiah love and that he,

you know, would basically, you know, force the pick here. I don't know if I buy that, to be honest. I think that Sunny Stiles or an offensive lineman

is much more Harbaugh style than a guy like Jeremiah Love, even though Jeremiah Love, is super talented. There was also some, you know, this is the same show as Peter Schrager and Jordan Renan said that Jordan Tyson's range starts at five with Malik neighbors kind of facing some, you know, offseason injury stuff. Now, again, that doesn't strike me as John Harbaugh first pick type of, you know, in his new regime type of vibe here.

And especially if you're adding an oft-injured receiver to a receiving core that is dealing with injuries, I don't know if that's the correct logic either. So I don't buy that. I think, again, in this scenario, I'm probably sticking with styles. But I don't know, Scott, you got any thoughts here on this? Because, again, we've kind of worked ourselves into a different scenario than we're out earlier. But, like, I would say extremely realistic, like very possible. So where I have landed on this is I think.

Joe Shane is a lame duck. I think he's sitting there, and I don't think he's going to have much say-so on his pick. I think it's very much horrible having the last say. The part that I come down to is I think it's Stiles or Caleb Downs, and I lean styles over Caleb Downs because I just think you have a complete profile there as far as the athlete, you know, the unicorn, as far as he tests and things of that nature, comments that Harbaugh has made about stopping the run. I think Morah will have some say-so, and we've all seen the hard knocks, him talking about,

you know, having a running back leave. And I don't know where Cam Scataboo is in his recovery. I don't think Cam Scadaboo would preclude them from taking Jordan Love. But, man, I just have a hard time when you start to listen to. You know, all the evaluators break down the talent in this and talk about the few elite guys that they have. So it's either love or styles to me. I tend to lean towards styles in this scenario. I think, you know, the Cowboys are a team that's looking to move up.

I don't have the Cowboys in, you know, wanting to move up all the way to three under any of these scenarios. Just because, you know, the information people that I've talked to that are familiar with, with the Cowboys think that they do not want to give up that pick 20. I think that's what they would have to do to move all the way up to three. I think, you know, they're in play here at six or, you know, depending upon who the Giants take, I think it would be Stiles. But I think they're going to have a hard time passing up on love. But Eileen Stiles and Caleb Downs.

Yeah, I'm looking at the roster, Stiles would make way more sense thinking about, Unless you think that Caleb Downs is generational at the position, and some people do film better than athletic testing. But just, you know, again, you used some resources in free agency. You know, and Tyler Nuban you took with an early pick in the second round just two years ago. It's played pretty well. Whereas you have a pretty gaping hole linebacker that you would need. That kind of speaks to like the run the ball, stop the run mantra we've heard out of them so far in the offseason,

which I think makes some sense there too. Nick, where are you at with the board as it transpires what the Giants would do at 5 with Love and Stiles on the board? I'm slightly kind of concurring with Scott, but we have a different end result. I agree that they would view styles and love over Caleb Downs, but I come to kind of a different conclusion on Jeremiah Love there. That's who I think the Giants would probably take.

over styles in this scenario. To me, the best evidence is kind of following their movement and free agency where Jordan and Ronan, who's also kind of been on the Jeremiah Love train here, and it's kind of a reliable beat for the Giants. He reported that not only were the Giants in on the Kenneth Walker stuff, but they were also trying to acquire Travis A-Chane as well. And they went for some pretty hefty, you know, contracts there. I think it does jive with the stopping the run, the running the ball, for sure, with Harbaugh there. I like that aspect philosophically. And I think it speaks to, okay, you have Scataboo coming off an injury, but he's probably best more of like a change of pace back or like maybe a closer in the fourth quarter with defenses are tired.

And, you know, Tracy's probably a pass catching back. but Jeremiah Love is just kind of a star. I just feel like they need an identity to help Jackson Dart a little bit in not only passing game, but just kind of give their offense another playmaker outside of neighbors who's also coming off an injury. So I have it, Jeremiah Love, and then Sonny Stiles, and then maybe a little gap before maybe another tier there with Caleb Downs. The tricky part here is really a pretty good linebacker class.

I know Scott, we've been talking about that a little bit offline. where that could be a part of it, right? If they do happen to evaluate one of the other guys that could be going in the early second rounds, you know, that would kind of soften the loss and the need to kind of fill in for Sunny Stiles. You know what makes stopping the run harder? Trading your all pro nose tackle,

which it seems like they're about to do too with Dexter Lawrence. So you better be able to run the damn ball pretty well. You're going to need to. Connor, what are your thoughts on styles, love, giants? Again, another tricky trade partner for Dallas if they're looking to trade up. same things we kind of balked on with commanders with obviously training within the NFC East. Yeah, I think love goes here or seven if he doesn't go here.

So it'd be either five or seven at this point. And then I think at this point I'd probably go styles, though. I don't think I have too much else. We talked about some of the other guys, downs, whatever. It's styles or love for me here. I probably lean styles in this scenario. The one thing that I will say, and it's something that me and Ryan talked about is, look, you start to look at the prospects at the end of the draft in the round one and where the giants are.

And Noonan is huge Jacob Rodriguez fan. And what is the gap between Rodriguez and Bailey here? As athletic as what Sunny Stiles is, it's not that Rodriguez tested poorly and the guy has a nose for the ball to read and react. So for the Giants, do you get a guy like love and say? still get a player similar to Sunny Stiles and Jacob Rodriguez in that second round, which you should be in range to go ahead and make a move if he falls there. I think that's a serious argument to have. And, you know, I say we go with love here just to see how this, I mean,

we've had styles like mocked here to the Giants. I think there's a good argument to go both ways. And in the back of my head, it's John Mara, you know, just. bitching about losing Sequin and not having them in the back of my head. Exactly. That ends up coming to me. So I say we, you know, we're given a little bit of a different look that's still realistic here. You've got some of the beat reporters.

I say we go with love. All right. I'm fine with that. I will say it's kind of like the one v1 or two v.2 of would you rather have sunny styles and maybe like a gerarian price or whatever the backup or Rodriguez and Jeremiah Love? I know we're Noonan leans. Yeah, I want Love and Rodriguez. I think Price is an absolute dog, so I like him, but I get it.

Let's go with Love. And then on to pick six. Pick six interesting because I think we both, whoever was not the pick there, I think we all think maybe is the pick seven. Last time we did a trade here with Dallas, which I think makes a ton of sense digging around. It seems like there's a lot of Cleveland love for Spencer Fano. Now, I don't know that they stick a pick at six, but Carnal Tate's available here as well.

Again, we've kind of all talked through a few of these scenarios. So, Nick, I want to give you the floor first on Cleveland at six. Any trade scenarios or, again, considering where the board's at now, what do they do? I think if Mauano is there, I really, I expect him to be the pick at six if he's available. I've also seen the Fano buzz here in Cleveland. I don't know how credible it is. And I think it might be. I could see him making a lot of sense there.

Seems like the buzz for Cleveland is, you know, instead of going wide receiver, Carnel Tate and then taking a tackle like Lomu at 24, it seems like it's like, okay, tackle is just more pressing, I guess, right now. We're trying to complete this offensive line job. So let's just take the best tackle here. But I go back and forward on this pick all the time.

I think Carnell Tate, local product. You have a passing head coach now with Todd Mocken coming there. He's going to want to air it out. The receivers are Jerry, Judy, and Cedric Tillman. Tillman's even in a contract year, Isaiah Bond. I know it's a vacancy at left tackle, too, but I think it's just kind of which one do you address now, which one do you maybe address later or even in round two?

Right today, my lean is Tate. but I've had Fano there for a while, and I could have Mowano. Scott, where are you out with this? Look, I'm looking at my draft board right now, and I have the number one thing on the Browns list is to trade down. I think the Cowboys would love to move up here

to the number six, specifically for Sunny Stiles. I think talking to the Cowboy sources that I have, he is one of the players that they covet the most. I don't think that the Cowboys would trade up for Caleb Downs. I think the Cowboys are content sticking at 12 and seeing if a Ruben Bain or Caleb Downs would drop down to them or even a Mansour Delane. I do, however, think Sunny Stiles is a key target to go ahead and move up here to get.

And for Cleveland, while they may be high on, you know, Fano or Maui Noah, look, the drumbeat has been hard for Caden Proctor. The argument against Maui Noah is that they tend to think that he's strictly a right tackle or maybe even a right guard, whereas I think Cleveland is looking for more of that left side, that blind side tackle with a guy like Caden Proctor, who a move to 12 would still allow them to get a guy like Proctor or possibly even see Spencer Fenno fall down. I think the one team that you're kind of like messing with there is what happens.

happens with Miami, you know, when they're on a clock at 11. But I think Dallas is going to be on the phones trying to get up to this pick to get Sonny Stiles. Connor's got the Cali board up because styles at six intuitively, it's probably not a popular click because Cleveland owns the sixth pick. They don't necessarily need a running mate for Carson Swessinger. You know, so it'd be fantastic. But not a need for Cleveland. So, yeah, like, trading at 15 cents or so in sunny styles, you can, you know, speculative because, you know, you need the dots to connect.

You need the trade to happen. But I think that is a good way depending on what your aversion of risk is at this time for the draft, you know, portfolio building, grabbing some longer priced, if that, than this scenarios make some sense depending on, again, you know, your approach to betting overall, Connor. And the other part of it for Dallas is, Washington is style is on Washington's list as well. When you start talking about the giants, the cowboys, and Washington,

they're all kind of on that same player pool. And so this is, you know, an active move to get in front of a division rival and snag a player that you know they're interested in. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, I guess two things here. The only person excited would be excited about stacking linebackers would be union. And like that would be like the only person in America literally hyper.

about that. But I do think, I'll watch the bounds games. I'll tell you that. I do think, though, like, when was the last time where we came out of a weekend

and three analysts mocked the exact same trade and it actually happened? Never? Like, never. I mean, like... It's also very weird that it wasn't just like,

you know, three randos, right? I don't know to disrespect anybody. I mean, it just, yeah, it wasn't three randos. They all heard the same information for sure, like over the weekend it was like whatever you know,

Cowboys Richardson trading up, Browns rich is trading down, that makes sense for all the reasons that Scott said, plus, you know, a couple other, you know, let's put it in our mock. I, you know, can't, I don't know. I mean, I get it and it makes sense on paper. It just seems like that never works out like that in real life. So that's my only pushback. I think if the Brown's sticking pick,

it's likely one of Tate or Spencer. I think that they, that makes sense. You know, there was early rumblings on Monroe Freeling. I know that they, you know, they've shown interest in Caden Proctor. Maybe they surprise us all and go with Proctor there. I would not like, I think you could slot in any of those guys. I probably will lean towards an offensive lineman, but, and partially because, I mean, the 24th spot's a little bit of a weird tier drop too for both wide out and

offensive linemen. You get like either one of those back end tackles with like Max Eonachor or maybe Caleb Ormoo's there, maybe Blake, Blake Miller's there. So if you like one of those guys, maybe ones there, wide receiver. receiver, you're looking at maybe Casey Conception Denzel Boston range. So again, it's like another 2 v2. Like would you like, you know, an office of lineman that you know you like and then maybe wide receiver or like vice versa?

I don't have that answer. You know, so I think that's exactly what dictates most mock. I agree. And I think that's why it's, you know, I feel more comfortable making that tackle selection in a scenario where there's the trade down. But you're right. I mean, when you see the common trades and we're going to start to see a lot of them, after the news today with Jacoby Resett wanting contract.

I feel like a lot of people are going to find unique ways to try to find Ty Simpson a home in the first round. Even that, to your point, feels maybe okay, maybe correct, but a little thin where it's like you just get this consensus around a trade. And like that, the hit rate for those feels so thin. Probably even thinner to your point with group consensus making a trade up at six. So I might just put Ty Simpson at 32 for my mom. draft score to be honest just like having been first round i don't know i hate it i hate it so much but i i understand the game i understand the game and jeremiah too like was like there's no shot the seahawks are like staying like staying in 32 basically i don't know if you guys saw that saw that too he basically was

like like adamant that they're they're moving out um so i might just throw a filler player that i don't know i don't know yeah tie simpson 32 to seattle in the final mock lock it no questions it just says 32 in the sheet, okay? Don't read the mock. Don't read that it says Seattle. Okay, don't worry about it. What do we want to do at six?

We could go like six different directions here. I know. I'm going to throw it in the trade again, to be honest. But I'm, uh, it's, let's do Tate. Anyone to push back on Tate? No, that's fine. Uh, looks like, Nick, you did that in your last mock. Looks like you just did Tate.

I'm cheating. It looks like that's, you would agree with the Tate pick to six to Cleveland, Nick. This is, I mean, y'all are just such great hosts, basically, that this is actually my current mock the way you have it. I'm pretty sure it's six for six on what I currently have. So, y'all are just doing a great job kind of accommodating me here right now. I appreciate you guys. Well, let's go seven for seven. I think we all agree that in this scenario, it's a, you know, again, it's only eight-minute timer this year.

But I think, you know, the commanders use 60 seconds here to write Sunny Stiles, pass it to whoever needs to run it up. and they go ahead and run that up. I don't think in this scenario, we're going to get much pushback from anything else. Scott, I'll give you the floor if you want to disagree, which I don't think you do. There we go. All right, well, he doesn't disagree.

Look, one thing I'll say is this. I think Washington, I think the apple of their eyes, Jeremiah Love, if there's any way that he falls to them, I think he will be the pick. I have Sonny Stiles as the option too for them. And if both of those players are off the board, If you get Jeremiah Love to four and Sunny Stiles to the Giants at five, I think it's going to be Cornell Tate. Washington has done the most work with all of their visits on parsing through these wide receivers.

The information that has come out here over the last few days from Adam Peters is that he does not expect them to turn down to try to acquire more draft picks because they need an elite player. So I expect them to stick and pick here. I think the worst case scenario you have for them is if Jeremiah Love, Sunny Stiles, and Cornell Tate are all off the board. I don't necessarily think that Caleb Downs is this is a team that's as high on Caleb Downs as what some other teams may be, mainly due to the incomplete profile. Adam Peters is at the top of list as far as drafting high-raz guys. So I'm fine with Sunny Stiles here, and I just think that those other two guys that we talk about, Jeremiah Love, Sunny Stiles, and Cardinal Tate.

It's going to be one of those three guys. There's any pushback there. I want to see Leo Chanel with a ton of snaps, but, you know, if Sunny Stiles has to come in and, you know, take his reps, you know, yeah, I mean, commanders get pretty interesting defensively with Sunny Stiles there right away. So I can lock that one in, Connor. Yeah, I mean, so if, Scott, if Tate's there, would you,

like if Tate was there, would you think that they would take Tate? Like, I mean, over anyone else, like, assume Stiles goes at five or, I don't know. Would you take Tate, you think, or no? No, I think I would still go ahead and take Tate. sunny styles. I think they want to get a weapon, you know, for for Jaden Daniels, but they've done some work on some other wide receivers in this draft that I think they'll have access to in that third round. All right. Well, we'll keep it with you, Scott. You've been, I know, plugged in locally with trying to get as much info out of the Saints, talking about them earlier

as a viable trade-up candidate, the way this board's fallen for them. You know, a couple of names. I know that they're very interested in. We have. have obviously the Jordan Tyson workout stuff today as we tape here on a Friday. Definitely in consideration there. Rumin Bain. We talked about Mansour Delane being an option for them as well. With the board as is, what do you think the Saints would do at 8? Yeah, I feel like I've been able to beat most of the national guys to the punch by about like two or three days here,

especially with some of the stuff. I think one of the questions we had in the chat a little bit earlier was a question about if Cornell Tate was on the board here. do I think they would take Carnell Tate over Jordan Tyson? I do think they would do so. I think because of the injuries, I think they would tend to lean a little bit more towards Tate if he is on the board. But as I said, a couple of weeks ago,

some of the information that I've got is that the Saints are actually one of the teams that's comfortable with Jordan Tyson's medicals. I think they're going to have a contingency there to work him out today or at least be at the workout. I think this pick comes down to two people. I think it's Ruben Bain and Jordan Tyson. I think Bain maybe doesn't exactly fit some of the athletic profiles that they've gone for in the past. But under this circumstance, I don't want to be long-winded because Nick's down here as well.

I think they go Jordan Tyson over Bain. Nick, what do you got? That's what I have too as well. It seems like, and yeah, you're right, Scott. I mean, you were a couple of days ahead of this curve here. Nick Underhill, reliable beat for the saying is supported. of these things. I agree that the Saints, I would be very hard pressed to think that the Saints don't like Cornell-Tate, like Ohio State product. It's a big position and need. I think if you're

down to Tyson and Bain like we are here, I would do the tiebreaker, not just because of Bain's character stuff and not even because of the arm length. I just think at the end of the day, you need to support Tyler Shuck, right? Right now the Saints number two receiver is Devon bail. And a lot of people are assuming just because a lot of they had a breakout year that he's, you know, he's there. He's set. First, he's in a contract year. They're going to have to pay him big. But secondly, one more concussion. And he's out for significant time. He even spoke last year about retiring. And I'm glad he was able to stay healthy. And I'm glad that's kind of at least put to bed for now. But I just don't think it's his rocks. That receiver group, I don't think it's as rock solid

as it's not, right? Tippedon or Austin is wide receiver three. They really struggle with drops and that kind of stuff. You got to see if Tyler Shuck is, they know he's good, but you got to see if he is great. Like he's going to build a franchise. And the way you do that is by supporting him with a strong cast there. So tiebreaker, I would say, goes to kind of supporting your quarterback here that you're building around. So that's why I would lean toward Tyson there. Connor, this is the example I was touching on earlier just in the instance of because I agree of the stuff I've been doing the last few moks have been Tyson eight off of Scott's stuff and just kind of locking that in messing around with a Ruben Bain situation in eight to see how that trickled you know down to the rest of the board

and it gets it gets pretty sloppy with some you know things you want to do next and nine with the chiefs but were you at currently Connor with the I guess Tyson Bain discussioners or anyone else you think is in the mix I mean I'm putting Jordan Tyson there mainly made based on what you guys have said and other information you've been aggregating. I don't have too much to add beyond that. I do think it's worth throwing out some of the prices here. We've seen Jordan Tyson. His odds just like escalate massively top 10 pick.

Like, you know, people are just hammering the ass basically. He's like minus 160, minus 175 to be a top 10 pick. I'm not bad in that anymore. But I do think that you get some interesting odds here. Jordan Tyson's plus 320 still to be eighth pick on draftings, plus 420 on Fanduel here to be. the eighth overall pick. I think plus 420 is is money.

I think that's a really good look at this point. Like anything above 4 to 1, even maybe even 3 to 1, I think is pretty interesting. Because like if it's like what Scott's saying, like, I don't think there's that many guys in contention, right? Like we're probably looking at like, I don't know, Bain, Tyson, or Tate. I hate these. I hate these picks

so much. I hate these bets. The darnel right one will always like, you know, you just, you make a trade to one position. You were directionally correct on the team taking the player. And, you know, Scott's already teased us as the Saints being a viable trade candidate. So what you're trying to do is get Tyson to the Saints. I'd rather take less than money and bet Saints first position wide receiver or something.

I don't currently see on the board, but maybe it's. Yeah, let's say is that out there. I mean, those things are. Top 10.10 is minus 160. Like I don't, I like. That's move so much. That's crazy about it. I think at this point.

I think it was 260 last time we did the show, which is two days ago. So, I mean, it's, it's been steaming up. Scott, what do you got? But one other thing I'll say. I'll say is, you know, shout out to the guys at the Savist Run. Look, I watch Evan Silva and Anthony Miko, and one of the things that they were on that they talked about that I don't think is a bad look, especially with some of the stuff that you'll probably start to hear coming out. I don't know what it's at. I think it's probably in the plus 600 to 650 range.

Look, I don't mind a small sprinkle on Jordan Tyson to be the first wide receiver selected. I think it's a sharp look to make a small play that would have, you know, something good come back. You've had Peter Schrager and some of the other guys draft. put in their mock drafts, Tate to Miami or fall on past Tyson. So I don't think that's a bad play as well. Stay local. We don't have it on the board. Mansour Delane, not a viable option, I guess with Bain and Tyson on the board.

I actually think that Delane is kind of the fallback option. I think the one good thing about Delane here, I think the Saints just value these other two positions a little bit more. if all of the guys that they want are off the board, I think Delane will be in the conversation between him and Bain, specifically the issue with Delane. I think he's versatile enough to play in both a man and a zone scheme equally well. So I think the Saints who they have done work on Delane as far as like visits and stuff,

here both locally, I think at the Pro Day and even a top 30 visit. I'd have to go back and look. But I do have a little bit of outside in the back of my head. head with the lane, but I'm strongly on Jordan Tyson here. Makes sense. What do you got for us, Connor? An interesting thing about Tyson is that whether it's Bain or Tyson, they could go eight and nine, right?

Like the chiefs may be in on Bain. We talked about them needing a pass rusher. And the chiefs, Peter Schrager, kind of seemed to suggest, or even, I think McShay even corroborated it, or substantiated it. He said that the chiefs being in on Tyson is true. So we could have, if it's Bain Tyson, we could have them flip-flop,

or back-to-back, that kind of thing. Yeah. First thing for today, when I put Bain at 8th, I went offensive line. Again, you also heard offensive line being talked about with the chiefs more and more, too. That starts to get a little, that catches my ear when we've been thinking, like, you know,

perhaps, you know, corner and an edge. I don't know if offensive line, becomes one of the viable options for the chiefs, too. Does they knock that preference out at nine, or do they wait and see if they can thread the needle down at 29? That gets tricky, too. So, all right. I'm good with Tyson here, Connor.

What else you got? No, let's go, Tyson. I will say for Scott's point, you mentioned the first wide receiver taken. That's down to like plus 225. Would you still like it there, Scott? I don't know if I'm into that at that price. No.

Look, and that has gotten steamed from the last. probably like 17, 18 hours from what it was. I mean, it's, you know, I expected it to happen with that workout being today and some of the things that have come out already, basically saying that at least five teams are comfortable with the medicals. I think the Saints are one of them. I think the Chiefs will probably be the other one. Yeah.

Yeah. Agreed. All right. Chiefs on the clock at nine in this scenario. What do you think we do here? What Nick said is this Ruben Bain? offensive line viability. You know, you basically have heard, I mean, look, we look at the top guys in the board,

we've kind of heard at some point the chiefs being interested or, you know, whether positional or whatnot on any of these players at the top. Yeah, I like Bain here. Look, when I've reached out to some of the people I trust as far as the Chiefs, I keep getting pushback on Fano to the Chiefs here, you know, play and right tackle. I don't know why there's such a pushback when you consider, you know, the injury to to Patrick Mahomes and trying to keep him upright. But the Chiefs fans and the people that I trust when it comes to the Chiefs are strongly

on the Bain or Tyson train here. And then, you know, you've got some other people, you know, national guys that are talent evaluators that are way high on Fano and think Fano should be off the board. So, you know, for me and one of other things I even heard today was that, you know, the chiefs, you've got some chiefs guys that are strongly think that Caleb Downs would be off the board before now. So I think the chiefs could go a number of different ways, whether that's a trade up to three like we discussed a little bit earlier. For me and my mock drafts, I kind of lean Bain here because they've just struggled to find a consistent pass rusher coming off the edge. And Bain definitely fits Spag's style of, again, the guy who doesn't really come off the fields.

He's not a, we'll go back to my guy from last year with James Peele. James Pierce very much a situational nickel clear passing down type of edge. Bain's going to be a dog. He's going to play 90% of the snaps. He's going to set the edge against the run. It feels like that's the type of spag's guy. Like Carl Offtis, I mean, Coloffis is a big body, solid against the run type of edge. And I think Bain is that dude as well.

Connor, any thoughts here on what you think the chiefs would do at 9 as the board sets? Well, I mean, you know character concerns are not a problem, as we've mentioned. for. So yeah, that doesn't matter at all. I think I have Bain in this scenario. I would have, I would have Bain. I think the more that we go through it, like a guy like him, I think makes a ton of sense. I do a couple questions for you guys though. So we've talked about like how all the national guys like Peter Schroger said like Caleb Down's going to be gone way before 12 and like he's going to go inside the top 10 no matter what. Like when we, if you jam in Jordan Tyson, which we did, like where does he go? Like, how does he fit? And, you know, that's kind of the problem that I've been facing is like

those super definitive quotes where in reality, like, I don't know, maybe they're just wrong. That's town's nine and a half over. Back up. I hedged out. I like a, you know, I'm soft. I got out of it. I was like, I don't want to deal with this anymore. It's, you know, too much of a thing. I'm still holding. I'm still holding. You're still holding? Wow. I mean, stones of steel, Scott. That's, that's impressive. Yeah, I'd go Bain here, though. I don't know, Noon to where you're at here as well. Yeah, I'd go Bain here too. I think you can drop off from what you're going to get at edge at 29

compared to the drop off at corner is a little bit more severe. Again, I'm a huge Ruben Bain fan. You know, again, I don't care. I don't want him to have 28-inch arms. But again, you watch and you watch and play football and the 31-inch arms are not a problem whatsoever. Again, is not really built into how he plays and how he wins. you know, pop him next to Chris Jones, who they love to kick outside.

They love to mix them out. I just think that they, it's a ability for them to really add to the overall talents and, you know, grab a guy like that who should not be a Kansas City chief based off, you know, the trajectory of where the chiefs are in where they'll probably be in the next five years again. So, Bain for me, without a doubt. Sweet. Also, we got a question real quick.

I guess we can talk about it with the dolphins pick, the first O line stuff because that's like probably the next O line. I guess. Yeah, I mean, I played around some stuff too. Like, again, if you don't go, you know, Maui, you know, the three, like, again, Scott's pushing back and, you know, hearing this pushback on family. Like, this is the path, I think, to Fano being first offensive lineman,

is Chiefs nine. And, you know, and the Cardinals do something different at three. That's my opinion. I think they would appreciate the flexibility for him to be able to kick inside or outside, depending on whatever their need is for him. I think sometimes we look at some of these things like tweener, whether it's Reese or is this guy a tackle or a guard as like a negative thing. And I think that the NFL doesn't always, some teams in particular don't look at

as a negative. It just gives them flexibility to look at how the board can fall next year or look how free agency falls or here's a guy that we developed that is a better left tackle. And now I'm fine with moving you into the guard. So I don't necessarily see those things as a downfall. I think we're kind of evolving in terms of versatility being better than, you know, these tweeners. And I don't know where he's going to play.

I think teams have evolved a little bit. It's interesting because on Bookmaker, Franz Mono is like minus 345, drafts because Fandle is closer to like minus 200. You know, again, this is one of the sharper books, takes more action. So I don't know. I would lean that way. I did take some Spencer first old line, like a really small amount for like five to one way back. I don't think anyone else is really, I mean, Proctor is like a long.

shot sprinkle i don't really know if anyone else really has a chance i love when you go first name spencer yeah fran it was francis and spencer and we're on a first name basis you know it's like yeah you haven't dropped a lot of monroe i want some un row later um when we get there in row yeah i'm a big max guy big max guy you make max no you went full on you took the you know you took his last name well some i'm i'm feeling ambitious you know i like i'm ready to go into the last name We'll get your thoughts on Monroe soon. So I'm there too. I think again, let's lock in Ruben Bain.

And we'll go, Nick, are we still holding the line? No, we went off the board, Nick. We ruined the perfect mock for you because you did not have Ruben Bain, nine of the chiefs. What did you do for the chiefs? You did go Spencer Pano. So he did go Fano here, though he would blow up my first offensive lineman picked selection because he did go Francis at three.

But I'll get it to you. We can talk about that and then tell us about 10 for the Bengals. Yeah. To keep it short about the offensive line, I kind of ended up contradicting my own bets or hedging, if you will. Because I thought Fano, I think Connor said it earlier. I think I saw it at 6 to 1 a couple weeks ago. And I was like, gosh, I think it's closer to 50-50 that which one goes up. It was right after this back issue kind of came up from Malanoa.

And I was like, yeah, let me go hit Fano as first O.L. like in case this back thing pops up. And the way the same thing, like you saw, kind of saw with Jamad McCoy, you just never know how those medicals are going to pan out. So I thought it was a good value. And then now, actually, today, this morning, actually, I took Mowanoa three overall.

And at that point, it was plus 750, I think, on score slash ESPN, or formerly known as ESPN bet. But I think it's dropped down a little to, maybe it's, what is it now? I think $6.50 now. It's still a long shot, like we talked about. about at three, but, you know, I kind of even canceled out my own bet, if you will. But just different times, I guess. But as far as the chiefs go, Scott kind of convinced me maybe I should alter the mock to

Ruben Bain at Scott if he's hearing negative things with his chiefs connects here. But to me, the phonology there was first you have the connection with Andy Reed and the Utah head coach are going to get extra intel there. And it sounds like this extra intel could be persuasive intel because everything you read on the Bruegler beast about Fano is just like lights out in terms of character about this guy. Like this guy is like one of the best guys in the draft leader, all of the above, just every intangible team captain, etc, etc. Yeah, the Andy reads history with the trenches there. I definitely have seen the pushback that Scott's been talking about among Chief Spans on Spencer Fano. But I think from a mocking strategy perspective, I think nine is an interesting spot with them

because if you are like Scott and you think the chiefs could trade with the Cardinals, well, then the Cardinals would be having picked nine. And you wouldn't get the team match right, but you might get the, if the Cardinals end up taking Spano there at nine, you might get, you know, the slot right and that kind of stuff. So I think strategically he should go around pick nine. So that was one reason I mocked them there. But I could definitely see Ruben Bain and Orfana there. All right.

Everyone, grab a snack, grab a drink of water. We're through nine picks. It's been an hour. Okay, so we're not going anywhere. This is great. So make sure everyone, carbo loads. If, you know, hit the bathroom. If you're listening to, pause, we're in for a long haul.

So he has to leave. You know, going to go pick up the kids or whatever. You know, we're in it. But hopefully this is really. insightful for, you know, we're trying to give you all the scenarios and all the things, you know, like Connor said, you know, we're trying to empty the notebooks today as much as we possibly can. 10 to the Bengals.

Fascinating. We know they have to make a selection defensively, probably make a selection in the secondary defensively. Safety 1. Caleb Downs. Cornerback one, answer Delane, both on the board here, Nick. So I'll let you make the discussion or kind of lead the discussion here on the bankals. I'll keep this one brief.

I think Caleb Downs would be the selection here in this scenario. I did make sense kind of a betting show as well, not just kind of the mock, but I did throw some, I sprinkled some 18 to 1 Thinaman here based on kind of Joe Goodberry's. I don't want to say recommendation. That's in his mouth, but based on his ranking, I guess, on his bingles board. Joe Goodberry has been one of the most reliable. guys to kind of follow from a mocking perspective about what the Bengals do. And so 18 to 1, I thought that was pretty good.

I think it right now, it's 16 to 1. So I'll let you guys kind of determine if that's still viable or not. But to me, in terms of mocking, Caleb Downs, I think, would be the most likely pick here. The needed safety is huge. The needed defensive back is huge. You have corners, Dax Hill, and DJ Turner, and both in contract years. There's not much behind them. their safety Jordan battle is also in a contract years.

And the Bengals like the draft a year ahead. So this just fits a lot from a financial perspective, a team need perspective. And yeah, now it's a good player. They need some leadership on that atrocious defense. Connor, where you are at the Bengals? See, I thought it would be between Delane and Downs. But, you know, Joe Goodberry, Joe Goodberry knows ball. You know, and, you know, Nick, I think you said some of the drafting prices.

is Fandle's got a 27 to 1 out there still right now on Dienemin 10. I just bet it for the max, which was, you know, 30 bucks. But that's fine. That's, you know, that's okay. You know, which it's probably even less for some other accounts, depending on which you kind of are using. So, yeah, I mean, I think it's fine. I think it's interesting.

I haven't dug too deep into that. I would probably lean towards Downs or Delane here. But, I mean, Deenman's a fun one. I don't know if that's, you know, I think it's kind of a more fun long shot to bet than actually mock in my opinion. but I mean, hey, I don't think that's a bad take. Scott, before you run with this, again, this is where like sometimes, I'll say my ball knowing, gets it either maybe gets in the way or to help.

I'm not quite sure. But I look at this Bengals roster and I look at kind of how it's positioned, especially if I go with the safety room in particular. They signed Brian Cook as a free agent safety from the chiefs, more of a deep, you know, you're going to run cover one. more of like a free safety. You know, they have Jordan Battle. They also signed Kyle Dugger. Again, both of those guys are like, they're like the same guy. They're essentially a third linebacker box safety guy. And to me, that's what Thineman is, right? Like, I think

Thineman could probably play a little bit more. We've talked offline about this. I think that Thineman is probably more theme specific, scheme specific than Caleb Downs, who can play a little bit of all of it. Going Thinamon, when you have Dugger in battle, even in contract years, feels a little redundant to me. When I look at your cornerback room, Dax Hill has played nickel before for them and played actually okay. Last year, they had to force him to the outside. So grabbing Mansour Delane allows you to move Dax Hill into Nickel and bridge the gap with your perimeter corner opposite of D.J. Turner was pretty good. So to me, I look at the roster And I don't know again, the team's doing it this way.

And they're probably thinking more contractually in years down the road. But I love the shifting of how things work by them going Mancer-Dillane. Because, again, you solve kind of two things at once. You get, I think, an upgrade at nickel. And I'm okay with you kind of deciding if you want to go with Battle or Dugger in camp, to play opposite of Cook. Where that gets really convoluted if you draft Caleb Downs. Maybe Caleb Downs has to take nickel snaps.

And then you're still keeping Daxhill on the outside. So that to me is why I would be the lane on this board. So Scott, what do you think? Look, I've been very torn with this pick because if you trust the national media guys that are talking to the scouts, the coaches, and the GMs, this is Caleb Downs' floor from what they say. And if people are considering them at five and this is this floor, then, you know, that's what's been tugging at me for him to be a Bengal. The flip side of that is I've leaned Mansour Delane because I think everything that you just pointed out shifts the defense and puts the Bengals into a stronger position as far as what they are on that back end. You've got some other safeties in this draft class that have been kind of moving up and getting some buzz there in a second round that I think would maybe be an option for the Bengals.

But I just think when you start talking about switching everybody around and where, Mansour Delane falls in. And then the gap that you're going to have between Mansour Delane and the next cornerback to come off the board is a huge gap for me compared to where you're at with safety. I tend to lean like the same way that you do with a little bit more towards Mansour Delane. But this is a very close call for me. I could see it going either way.

I don't have as strong of a feeling as I do on some of the other picks. So I'm comfortable with either one. but I tend to lean a little bit more towards Mansour Delane. Connor, are you out with the Bengals? You all have been nice enough. Y'all can go with either here. You can go with Scott. I actually think the next, Scott, I mean, do you think the Miami Dolphins would take the next?

I mean, would take the other one? Actually, I think, you know, here, we still have final on the board. I think, you know, final would slide right into Miami. Oh, yeah. I think it's Dallas. that's really, really sitting on their hands here with this pick wanting to take whichever other player doesn't go. And I think this is a situation for Dallas that they would be happy with.

And I'll kind of hit on Dallas once we get on there with some of the information that I've got as far as their picks. I mean, an hour and a half from now, people. Yeah. I mean, look, I'm comfortable going to Lane and it'll roll it right into these next two picks. Yeah, I think we go Delane. Also, Scott, I think I've just made a decision for myself that I am not considering the Caleb Downs locked go top 10 Shrager stuff anymore because fuck them, you know, like I'm, you know, you can't listen to everything and value everything.

It's like when you zoom out, it's such a vague thing and not like specific at all. Like unless he's talking to a team in the top 10, like how do they know? So what you're telling me is you manscape and now that stubble's growing back on on your cohort. hones. Exactly. Yep. Yep. A hundred percent. I'm back. I'm locked in. So let's go Delane here. I think that makes Nune's ball knowing makes a ton of sense. I'm not signed in to make, you know,

prizes here, Underdog. We love you guys, but not signed in. So I think Delane's right move. Nune, that was some great, you know, ball knowing here. And 11, I think Scott brought up a good point, right? Fano. I mean, Spencer is I bet I said in their chat, he was

22 to 1 when it opened this morning on Fandul. still i think you can get six to one seven to one if he's there someone i mean some people are like if he's there is the pick that was like you know what i heard from the from the people are reporting that so i think scott you alluded to the same thing yeah i i just think that this pick would have come down to phono or mansore delane i think with the lane off the board i don't think that the dolphins are going to have as much of a glaring want for caleb downs as what maybe some other teams would and i think phineau would be the pick

Yeah, again, we go back. We touched on this a little bit the last time. Nicola, you add anything you have here too. We have a new decision-making tree in Miami with Packers ties, versatile RAS athletes in the trenches. I had just been the Packers in the first round for a decade. That would always make it really tricky for me to go Downs or Delane here. So I think Bono was like all that perfectly to a T.

So pretty clearly for me there. But Nick, do you have anything here on Miami? Yeah, it seems like the dolphins are going in either of those directions. I agree with the analysis there. A couple of quotes here, it says the whole back end is competing for their jobs. So I'm going to do everything in my power. If there's a defensive back available, who's a stud, I'm going to go get them. That's on the DB side.

But then on the offensive line side of the argument, which is the direction. we're going here. He says, yeah, I like some pieces along the offensive line, left tackle, and center. I think there's going to be competition elsewhere. So that's the GM saying basically three spots along the offensive line are up for grabs. And Fano is like the old, he's known for his versatility. So I like that a lot. And he fits the threshold.

So both of them make a lot of sense. We can go with Fano. It is unquestionably the worst secondary in the league. there is not a strong NFL caliber starter in the group right now. I kind of like Jason Marshall coming out last year. He did get hurt. But again, fifth round pick, not a lot of capital. Just it is a, it's a pretty bad.

I mean, it's bad. So again, even it's like, I don't know, grabbing Mansour to Lane, it's like a, you know, Band-Aid on a leg that needs to be amputated. It's pretty bad. Like, you're still going to struggle, you know, like just let's let's take the ear solidify the trenches let's get good somewhere and then we'll figure out the rest later and i do like some to scott's point if there's some interesting

safety pieces that are available later that could be um you know kind of worth it for them in day two pretty easy caleb downs click here scott what do you think yeah i think so look i i harped about them trading up if sunny styles was on the board i think that you know that would be the pick. Look, under this circumstance, I think they're happy with Caleb Downs coming in here. You know, I reached out to a few people I trust for Cowboys and another draft person that we talk with a lot is over at Draftplex, Jason Pruitt. He's a huge Cowboys fan. He's in that market, you know, and he tends to think that this would be the case as well. I've reached out to him and a few other people that gave me some pushback on the Dylan Thineman.

like rumors that we've had here. Specifically, I just don't know that he would fit what the Cowboys want to do. I think they would be much happier with Caleb Downs in this scenario. And look, the way I have everything set up, it's trade up for David Bailey or Arvel Reese or Sunny Stiles. Caleb Downs and Ruben Bain are the two people that I think that if they stay packed, they're hoping one of those guys to fall down to them and Caleb Downs does here. The other piece of it is I just do not believe that the Cowboys want to come off that

pick 20. I think they want to keep both first round picks, and I think they think that they can add a starter here with that second pick that's going to make a big impact on their team in 2026, 2027. I completely agree. Any pushback on Caleb Downs? We can maybe skip. We get some chalk here, I think, coming up for a couple of picks. Caleb Down makes sense. You know, we had this shift last time because we had a trade and then we had Mackay Lemon off the board. So I think we went, Casey Concepcion to kind of mix it up, which is, you know, provocative. But now we see her, Connor. So I like the, I like the conception just visually, you know, in that bone white uniform, you know,

flanked out with, you know, three receiver sets there. That'd be a lot of fun. But I think McIllum is a damn good football player. And just sometimes the chalk does make sense. Yeah. I mean, he's, he's good. And hookah's offseason was a disaster. Devante Adams is old.

They need more juice. They need a guy who's going to come in and contribute right away. They're still in a wind now window. Michael Lemon gives them that to be like, I don't know. I mean, 600, 700 yards right off the rip as a rookie is not, that would not be that surprising, maybe a couple touchdowns. So maybe more if Devante has heard or Puka, I don't know, decides to pledge allegiance to, you know, like some crazy group of individuals,

like he has been, you know, over online. So it's a wild time right now. So I think we're looking at Lemon here. or if they like someone else, maybe, but I think Lemon's the pick. Now, Nick, I'm cheating again. I'm just seeing the numbers. I'm not seeing actually the, you know, teams or trades or anything. But I see a different name next to 13 on your recent mock,

you know, unless our friend is updating the sheeting correctly, which is possible. But I'll let you take the floor on 13 if you want to mix it up. I think for the purposes of this mock, we should stick with Lemon because he's the favorite. there. I do think that there's a little thing that's giving me a little bit of pause here. And the other day, someone on Twitter actually put me on and mocked that Jordan Roderig, who covers the Rams very, very well, known to be one of the best beatwriters. She mocked Freeling to the Rams. And I tend to follow her word a lot on the Rams, along with like Schrager, of course. but to me, the caveat, though,

and the reason why we should probably go with Lemon here is, I think Lemon was off the board in that mock. But I found it very interesting that she went with Freeling. It kind of, the reasoning behind it just kind of made me feel like she knew something. And maybe it's nothing. Maybe I'm overthinking it. But I think this pick needs to help Stafford and help him win a Super Bowl. and I kind of dug into it a little to see if there was like some, you know, validity to it.

And I kind of noticed that their offensive line, their left guard, their center, and their right guard are all entering contract years. And I know feelings to tackle, but then just kind of bodies along the offensive line. And then I also saw that their center is 32 years old and their right guard is 31. So I just, I could easily see Lemon, but I think offensive line, might be a little sleeper there. It got to the point where I kind of checked the books and saw how long of a shot it was. All right. It does matter.

I think the lemon's off the board, but it wouldn't surprise me at all. It's also a scenario where like, yeah, they're free agents. This very much could just be like, we'll reset the whole damn thing, you know, after Stafford walks, right? So you're kind of in this win now mode, which makes some sense. Because, again, you know, you get into Gordon Winnington. was it Katana Mumfield pretty quickly in terms of sorry no shade on Mumfield you know this is I like winnington too I mean he's you know but again like you know knowing that what's happened in the offseason there I think you want to be a little bit more assured of what could happen there too so I've seen

some people talk about Sadiq there as well like you just does a big slot in so many damn tight ends so in my mind that's really hard but like I guess it kind of makes sense theoretically um yeah let's go let's go and we'll keep it moving to Baltimore, which I think is a very interesting team to discuss here as well. Like Vagione has been, I think, kind of chalked there. Maybe that's moved away. Anytime that happens, especially early in the process, I want to give a little credence to it if it's coming from reliable sources.

If it's just like we get lazy mocking, then I'm like, I throw my hands up and like, no, let's find reasons why this is not going to be the pick. It's just a team that has a decent amount of needs that you could sell me. on a number of things. I think if we had a healthy through Mon McCoy, that would be pretty interesting for the team, but we don't have necessarily healthy through Ma McCoy. Yeah, a lot of different ways, Connor.

Any thoughts here off the top on what do you think the Ravens can do with this board? For me, it's between Sadiq or Big Ione. Scott, I think you went a different direction with 14, right? Last time I think you talked about that, or were you on Ione as well? No, so like my second mock draft, I kind of play around and just give things like a different look.

And there was some rumors that they want to go ahead and play their safeties. Kyle Hamilton a little bit closer and almost like a hybrid position, almost like a linebacker and, you know, kind of a joker position. And so there was some information that Thineman could be in play there, kind of in that Eric Weddle type of position. But I generally looking at this team, I think it's between Ione and Sadiq. I tend to lean a little bit more towards Ione because I just have a higher grade on him. And I think Baltimore always just they sit and they just get the best players that fall to them.

They talk about Ione basically being the cleanest guard prospect since Quentin Nelson. And they have a need. Look, you put him next to Ronnie Stanley. And, you know, that's going to help that offensive line, help Derek Henry in his older years, help Lamar Jackson. I just think he makes a little bit more sense than, you know, than taking Sadiq, but that's the two players that I'm firmly deciding between. Nick, where are you out with Baltimore?

I tend to agree offensive line more than Sadiq. I think Sadiq's fairly in play there as well as Leman. If he actually makes it past, I mean, sorry, St. Louis. Oh, man, Los Angeles. But I actually tend to think that they might go a different direction on the offensive line. I think Buffalo, sorry, excuse me, Baltimore, I'm missing up my cities here. Baltimore, I think they would prefer to draft. If the grades are kind of even, I could see them taking offensive tackle like Freeling or Proctor there.

Proctor, especially because there's Alabama connections there in that organization, and probably play them at guard, particularly Proctor. I could really see that happening. where they play them, where you want it would be, but now they have a Ronnie Stanley potential replacement. He's 32, and I could see that happening. But Vega is definitely on my short list for this team as well. So, and yeah, so you have Vega, you have Lemon, you have Sadiq and Proctor.

Those are the top four for me. If you guys saw the quote, doesn't necessarily tell us anything about the first round, is a little bit interesting. a GM Eric DeCost and I brought it out because I wanted to make sure I didn't butcher the quote and all. There's a strong chance that we had a couple of tight ends in this draft. Now, that doesn't have to start in day one. It doesn't have to start a pick 14, but it's very much a, it's a position that we are looking at.

We lost Isaiah likely. You know, we don't have, you know, Mark Andrews is a third round pick in 2018. I'm not old but not young. considering it's a position that, you know, they like to run a lot of 12. You know, that to me is a little bit of signal. And again, that could be, you know, a lot of people think this is a solid tight end draft as well. So that very much could be day two and day three picks. But it's not nothing to me if you're looking to find a home for Sadiq.

If you're thinking about people also thinking about like, hey, pass catcher's kind of a sneaky need for Baltimore. I kind of agree with that. You know, this is kind of checking two boxes, right? Sadieke's not in line, you know, hand in the dirt. He's more so big slot type of guy. So I'm fine with Sadiq or Ione, but that kind of caught my attention with the GM saying specifically. We're looking at multiple in this draft. I think we go with Ione.

That's probably where I'm at. I went with Sadiq and the more that I let it sit there, the more I hated it. So it just doesn't. I did the opposite because I didn't want to, I couldn't find a home for Sadiq. And I felt good just putting me in Baltimore and not having to worry about him later on the board. It felt good bringing there. There's a bunch of homes for Ione later. I'm okay with that.

Yeah, it felt good like getting done with, but like I hate the fit. Like, I just don't like it at all. He just doesn't seem like a raven to me. I don't know. Maybe I'm overthinking it. I'd say let's go with the only and keep rolling here. Let's do it. Also did have a question here too because this is another popular spot for McCoy.

If we have a question here, we can bring up from at Fantasy Cash Hater. Fantasy Cash has been doing a great job on Twitter, you know, aggregating a bunch of podcasts and stuff. I have a feeling that I know who this is, but, you know, not going to talk in here. But he asked, what's the lane, cornerback one, good to, buying the McCoy injury stuff. We've gotten a bunch of reports lately about Jamad McCoy and some even going as far to say that he might miss time in 2026, which was not initially reported, which would be a massive deal. So I don't know. I think I'm probably still going to have him in this range, like 15 to 20-ish range, but maybe not.

I started to piece together in my final mock and I had him at like 27 or 28, I think, kind of late 20s there. I think you guys are the same, right? Yeah, I'll have him later for sure. I'll have him in the first round still, but I actually think, like, I don't know, it's pretty close, but it's really good. I mean, like 2024 tape was awesome. He's big, but again, not healthy.

It's not a great sign. Yeah, Nick, where are you out on the McCoy thing? And then I guess you can start to talk to us about, or your thoughts here, I guess, on cornerback one. And then you can roll that into your Tampa Bay thoughts. I'm a cool in the late teens right now, kind of parsing between 18 with the Vikings and 19 with the Panthers. When there's a lot of uncertainty around these guys, I like to stick them between two

teams that could equally take them. So you kind of get partial credit for, you know, the range, the player range, doesn't mess up your whole mock draft. But so right now it's 18 or 19 for me. So that would, yeah, that would make Delane a pretty solid bet. That Josh Norris thing the other day, I don't know if you saw it, though, is giving me a little bit of a pause there. He seemed to suggest there was something underlying about Monsor Delane. But, you know, I don't know what it is, and I don't even know if it's there yet.

So it's too, we can't kind of rely on that at this point. Yeah. speculate on someone else's speculation. Yeah. I mean, I would, I'm not betting delay. I'm not betting Delane at like minus 400 or whatever it is now. I would say that's just a pass for me.

Based on, you know, some of those rumblings and other stuff. He probably is going to be quarterback one, but all it takes is one team to be like, you know, I like him. And he's not like a top 10 lock by any means. So like, you know,

I don't feel. comfortable in that juice unless it's ACC under six and a half, which case, I'm just, again, another bridge jumper. Bags are packed there, too. Oh, yeah. All right, Nick, 15, Tampa Bay. I think you did some good digging here, too. You know, I actually was one of the, I was pretty early on Kendrick Falk here, partially

because of like some of the Jason, like, leadership type of stuff. They're like a big character or leadership draft. captains, draft locker room guys. There's a lot of great Kendrick Falk reporting on who he is in that nature. Stylistically, though, doesn't seem to be a great fit for what they do football-wise. He's a little bit more big body. They typically will run more speed off the edge when you look at how, you know, yeah, yeah, Diabi, or, you know, even positionally, you know,

Colisha Canty's a little bit undersized and more of a speed guy at front. So I'm no longer mocking Falk there, but I do still think that defense's end is a pretty good need for them. But you can tell me if I'm wrong or what do you like Tampa Bay doing here at 15? It's a huge need. They have Diabi, they have Nelson and they Muhammad, like three of their four snap leaders for their top three defensive ends in terms of snaps last year.

Like all of them are entering contract years. Can't see Robinson and Vita Vail. Their top three defensive tackles in terms of snaps are all entering contract years. So they need to- Romney and Robinson are free agent signing. So they, you know, they signed it for their, for the last deal. Yeah. Okay.

So they just have a lot of bodies right there that they're kind of like the room's going to look totally different next year. And yeah, everything you said, I'm in lockstep with Jason like. You know, I can't get this quote out of my head from last year. It's like the first thing we do is we take assholes off the board. And it's like, okay, wow. All right. So they care about character a lot there.

So I'm looking for the right kind of person there when I'm a mock. good character here and you're definitely mocking like high rass team as well uh i think connor was the one who kind of put me on 9.58 at least i have in my notes uh average rass in 2016 so i think i got that from connor's mock draft but uh yeah so to me kenyon sedique is the it used to be fault like you said um buying that he's not a stylistic fit um ideally maybe the bucks could trade down and drafts defensive linemen. But to me, Kenyon, Sadiq and Vega, Yuanay are the two names that,

if it's not going to be defensive line, because it seems too rich at this point, Sadiq and Vega, Yuane, the two names that are popping up to me is good character fits, who would both, like, help the offense. I know they have aught in there, but I think Sadiq kind of gives them something different. They lost Mike Evans. They need an extra pass catcher. But I also think they could fall in love with Vega, immediately plug them in place. I'm at left guard.

And then their right guards, Cody Mock is a free agent in 2027. So I like both of those for the bucks. Yep, Sadiq off the board, Scott. We do have, I know we went Vega, right? Sadiq's still here. Sidique's still here. Yeah, sorry. What are your thoughts on Tampa Bay, Scott?

I think Tampa Bay would love Ione. That's who I've kind of had. If I go Sadiq there, you know, to Baltimore, I think Ione. You can pretty much flip-flop these two picks to me. I don't have a good feel for specifically what Tampa Bay wants to do. I think they need an explosive edge rusher. Is it too early for a guy like Malachi Lawrence? I think he's that next guy that has that explosive traits that maybe Tampa Bay would be looking for over some of these other bigger body guys like, you know, Zion Young or, you know, when we start talking about Falk.

I think he could be a fit. But when you start talking about it, we talked about Lawrence going here in the first round. I think this may just be a little bit too far out of range. And then you start talking about what the floor is for Sadiq and some of his athleticism and athletic traits. So I don't mind going Sadiq here. And then, you know, some people are starting to have Jermad McCoy as an out here for Tampa Bay.

I just, you don't know, I don't have any information as to whether or not, McCoy would be one of the teams, you know, Tampa having McCoy off their board due to medicals. I tend to think you're going to have to discount him a quarter to a half a round down for a team that is going to take him. So I don't mind Sadiq here to Tampa Bay. Connor, what did you, what are you done with Tampa Bay based off this board? Is this a Sadiq home for you? I put McCoy, I put Lawrence, and I don't like any of it. So Fadique sounds good to me. I mean, it's, this is not one that I have a struggling on. There's, there's certain teams that I feel like,

and I think for the sake of time here, as we're at an hour and a half and halfway done. What? I think that we, like, I don't know. I mean, Scott and I think Nick are significantly, they have a lot of good notes on like a, maybe a couple other teams. And I have basically like one or two, like really strong liens,

I think maybe two or three, the rest of the back half here. But I think we go to DIC here just for, you know, again, like consistency sake. I do what I went Lawrence. This is where I know what's wrong. Lawrence. You know, I'm not saying,

no, no, keep Sadeek. I'm saying this is, I've gone Lawrence here. I know you went Lawrence here originally. Yeah. I understand some of the

dynamic based off of maybe where big boards were in, heading into the combine or whatnot. But you know that I kind of have two flag playing guys in this class. And Lawrence is one of them. We'll start to talk about the other one here pretty soon. But I just think Lawrence is, is fantastic and

I think it would make a ton of sense and fits kind of a stylistic needs but I have no problem with Sadiq here again partially Sadiq's like I just want him off the board because I can't I have trouble finding like where he lands as we get deep down the board so having him go somewhere you know makes sense enough to think about him anymore so

I mean just get rid of him right like I mean just get him off the board I don't want to mock him anymore it's getting yeah I know Mesador for the box Bessador would be very similar to Kendrick Falk stylistically bigger body. Also, you have a situation where, like, Messador is very tricky. We'll probably get to him in a little bit. 25 injury issues, you know, busted, you know, broken bones and feet, it's tough. The 20, 25 tape is really good, but I think he gets to be a little tricky. And I think you're just going to have some teams,

just be like, hey, we're going to make a pick here. It's kind of easy to pass on the off injured 25-year-old versus the, you know, the potential upside of someone else that's not maybe that much worse right now and has significantly more potential and you get into second contracts. Those things matter quite a bit. All right, Nick, wider Steve has been pretty popular for the Jets at 16. What are your thoughts based on the board? Based on the board here. Let's see.

So Vague is a name that I could see going to the New York Jets. We had had Lemon going already. So gosh, I don't know if the Jets are actually going to lean in. into, you know, kind of reaching for a receiver like Cooper here or Denzel Boston, as kind of Tony Pauline reported their interest there. So to me, I'd probably go a different position. Maybe it goes down to the original mocking of Jamad McCoy, right? Maybe that could be an out right there.

Maybe it's Dylan Thineman. But it just doesn't feel like, I don't know, it doesn't, this feels a little rich for Cooper for me. The Thineman thing I'll just make this while we will. Again, Aaron Glenn used to be in Detroit as a defensive coordinator. He drafted. He was obviously coaching Brian Branch. Brian Branch advocated heavily for Malachi Moore,

who also went to Alabama like Branch did, told Aaron Glenn and company, this is me. this guy can put him anywhere. He's awesome. He's a dog. He had a pretty good rookie year. So they went and kind of solidified

his spot next to him with Minka Fitzpatrick and they have Malachi more. So I think they feel pretty good about giving more some run at least this year. So I don't think that safety at 16 is necessarily a huge spot for the Jets. And again, that could just be some tea leaf reading. But I know they were pretty excited to get more where they got him last year. So look, I mean, we talked. talked about it last time. You make a case for upgrading, you know, an outside corner for Brendan Stevens would make sense for McCoy if they don't have a problem with it. I could also

see Cooper because again, look at the, I mean, outside of Gary Wilson, you get into Adonai Mitchell, Isaiah Williams, Ariens Smith. It's pretty ugly at wide receiver there, Connor. Any thoughts on the on the Jets? I'm going to throw out some sleeper names here that I think that, in my opinion, I'm going to have probably one of Colden Hood or Chris Johnson probably mocked here um you know it's they've talked a lot about um you know people have kind of said like in the schrager mock people have been like there's no way he's going that high some of the rumblings i've heard and people have been saying it's like well it's probably one of the big three receivers or maybe some some other position basically so like to me that kind of crosses off cooper 16

and i'm sure they like omar cooper but i don't think they're going to pick him at 16 so maybe they trade up for him or they trade down and ended up getting him i don't know but for me at this point, I think they would probably take a corner. Maybe they feel comfortable with McCoy's medicals. I don't think that that's all the likely, so I'm going to go with one of Hood or Chris Johnson. Scott, what do you got? Look, I think when you look at the Jets, I think they want receiver. I tend to lean on some of the information. I believe Tony Pauline was one of other people that reported as well that the Jets like Cooper, but I just don't think they like him at this, at 16. I think they like him more on the back end.

You know, I still think it's a little bit early for Denzel Boston. I don't know that Casey Concepcion is a fit here for what they want to do. I think it's all over the board with, you know, the team and what needs they have. You know, look, if you don't know where to hell you want to go ahead and put Sadiq, maybe this is the place if all the wide receivers are off the board. But, you know, I don't have a problem going, McCoy, but I admittedly do not have a good feel for what the Jets are going to do here if all the wide receivers that maybe they cover it are off the board. And this is where the board falls.

I don't think it's thinneman as far as like a safety. I tend to agree with you. I think they would look more towards cornerback. And Chris Johnson is a player that they have done their homework on and have had in for a top 30 visit. Spicy, Connor. I like it. Let's go Chris Johnson. I think there's some Chris Johnson cornerback two buzz going.

You know, I'm okay with it. It's a big body prospect. They like him. He has legit out, too, by the way. That's at zero interceptions. Yeah. That's crazy. It's impressive.

I think he has legit outs at 20 and 21, too. The Steelers took a visit with him, which, like, means that, you know, he's, like, on their radar. I think, Scott, you mentioned some rumblings that, like, you know, the Cowboys could have some interest at 20. And then the Jets, 16, if they prefer Chris Johnson over Hood or McCoy, is very live. and then there's a couple of teams in the back end. So I don't know if I'm laying the first round price. It's like gotten up to minus 180 at this point. But I mean, I kind of think that he's a pretty good bet to go to the first round, to be honest.

So I don't know. Maybe if there's something a little closer to even, I'd be interested in it. Yeah. Pittsburgh would surprise me a little bit, but I don't know. Yeah, I think he's definitely an ascending player. So yeah, I like it. Let's do it. Detroit 17.

Nick, I'm going to give the floor to you. I think this is an interesting spot. I mean, you can lay in terms of like laying juice in terms of team the draft position. I don't think there's anything right now bigger on the board than Detroit to go offensive line. It seems to be very chalky. Then we have kind of an inflection point where you've had a couple names that are really, really common here, both Monroe Freeling and Caden Procter, Monroe and Caden for Connor here. Which do you think they would, you know, do you have a lien what they would do here at 17 if both guys are on the board? I'm going to stick with Daniel Jeremiah.

He was told that the Lions love Proctor. He mocked it in his last draft, even though it was about a month ago. And unlike Freeling, and I'm sure his character is fine, but unlike Freeling, Daniel, sorry, Dane Bruegler mentioned a couple times. I really kind of rely on the got, the beast, for like, these character evals. Proctor had some positive stuff that was mentioned. Nothing negative was mentioned about Freeling, but it was just kind of nothing mentioned on his character. Whereas Proctor, you have some weight stuff, but he's been praised for his leadership and that kind of stuff.

So I think he fits the culture there. He fits a need there. And I'm with you, Ryan. I think it's Caden Proctor or Monroe Freeling. And I honestly think one's going to go before this. I don't think I'm of the opinion of these tackles. It's exactly what teams want in this kind of weak draft class, like someone who could be elite, right? at a premium position, which is rare for this draft class.

I think there's a strong chance that Proctor and Freedling are off the board that nobody's really talking about for the Lions. But I definitely think at least one is going. So my simple answer is I think they're going to take the other one. I also think Vega-Ewane is in play here, especially if both tackles go and teams get greedy on these tackles. I think Juana is another culture fit there for Brad Holmes and Dan King. for sure.

Screams Lion. Can you see them? Those two take their shirts off and start chest bumping as soon as they draft big Ione. That feels like a lion for sure. Yeah. So I throw him in the next. Those are the three guys for me.

Yeah. I did a mock today updating and it's kind of where I landed on Ione after skipping the Ravens with it. So yeah. Scott, any leans on Freeling or Proctor? No, I'm not going to have any pushback.

I think it's. kind of a toss up between Freeling and Proctor. I tend to mock Freeling a little bit more to Detroit because I think Cleveland has multiple ways to kind of get to Proctor if they decide that they want him. But I don't have any pushback towards, you know, Caden Proctor being on the board and being a Detroit pick here. Yeah, I can go Freeling or Proctor, Conner, you get the pick. You get to push the button. Lock in Proctor. I think that makes sense. That's what I'm going to add. Probably my mock. It's chalk. And so is the, so is the next one. I mean, I don't know. Dylan, Dylan Thieneman, 18, is just like mega chalk.

We have what, 14, 16 with Cooper, 17 with Lions, the Proctor, and 18 with Thieneman, more chalky than like pick six through 11. Like, how does that even make sense? I have no idea. I don't think, have we gone mostly chalked this thing already? Like, I mean, not mostly chalk, but like we did Vega, Lemon 13. Sadiq's not chalk. There's not chalk.

17 chalk. So I don't know. Maybe we can, you know, you can afford a little bit of chalk here. Yeah, that it's going to tell us if it's chalk or not at the end too, right? It gives us updated public information. I'm in on Deneman. I'm in on email Emmanuel McNeil Warren, too, because this is a team that uses three safeties and they can mix them all up.

And I think McNeill Warren can play both more free safety and box safety, whereas I think Thineman is, I think not that he can't play deep, but like he's a hybrid linebacker, run filler. You want him in the box type of dude. so I like him quite a bit here and I think that's why it makes sense as chalk but I don't like Thinamon to Carolina which I think I've seen a little bit too

that does not make any sense to me but you can sell me on me Neil Warren there but again I'm fine with clicking Thineman from Minnesota unless anyone has pushback do it moving done Carolina again you know we've heard offensive line or pass catcher

that tracks to me we've heard a little bit more discussion on safety there from Josh Norris again local you know tied into some of the Carolina stuff again I if you have Trayvon Mooring drafting Thieneman would make very little sense to me but again I could be wrong but again I think if you think that safety is a need for them they brought back Nick Scott but I don't think they expect much of him I don't think he's a particularly really good football player so upgrading that position would make sense but I think offensive line again looking at kind of the nature of their future offensive line, Nick, even in their current offensive line situation

with Iki Aquano getting hurt late in the season. They probably could use that early season left tackle. I mean, someone that had some flexibility to kick into the inside would make sense, too. Where have you kind of landed the plane right now on Carolina? I'm probably more on, I probably think they have a better chance of picking a tackle there than maybe the public or the fans do because the tackle they saw on. Rashid Walker, it was like a very, very light deal.

I think it was one year, like $4 million, which is like chump change for a tackle. And then Icky could miss a lot of the season, right? Andy, I think he's in a contract year as well. So their left tackle is far from decided. I like Freeling as an option here, Pthall's. I'm interested, you kind of gave me your take on Thineman not going there. but to me, if I were making this selection here, especially with the team and going to the Vikings,

I'm going to actually stay with my current mock right now, which is Jamad McCoy, to the Panthers. They met with them on a top 30 visit. I think this is about where his range is kind of naturally. So, and I think that, you know, he's a player that they can take a chance on. I like that.

I could also go a wide receiver for sure. Concepcion, Omar Cooper. I could definitely see them be in the pick as well. Yeah. Scott, any liens on Carolina? Yeah, so I tend to agree with what Nick just pointed out. I think we've had a lot of discussion about McCoy and the injury and which teams are going to feel comfortable taking him. When you start looking at his visits, Carolina is a team that has done the homework on him.

I think that if there's an out for McCoy, it's going to probably be around this. When you started talking about him, maybe going in that 10 to 12 range, the next pick there at 20, would Dallas have, you know, any, any, you know, desire for him? I was told that, look, that McCoy's off Dallas's board at 12, that they have him flagged for medicals. And that was before some of the medical stuff came out. Does that mean he's flagged for them, you know, getting them at a discount there at 20? I don't know. I like Freeling. He's kind of my top choice.

but I think trying to connect the tea leaves and find a team that is going to be comfortable to take McCoy. Carolina is the team that's probably done the most homework on McCoy. So I like kind of drafting McCoy here and selecting him there to Carolina and getting him off the board and kind of clearing up some of the stuff here later in the draft in the first round. It's interesting. I've got to look into more of McCoy playing nickel because it feels like something that would probably have to be a 20. six need. Because I think they're okay at perimeter corner.

But it doesn't mean that like he can't move out there long term. Like, you know, Mike Jackson, you know, pretty good year last year. But again, like they could use an upgrade of nickel. So yeah, I'm open to the McCoy thing. It's not something I've explored. I would definitely go offensive line here. But Connor, let you make the click. Yeah, I think Freeling.

I think it's, I think that makes no sense here just for the Panthers based on everything we've heard and what you guys said. If you guys are okay with that. Yep. Cool. All right. Let's roll freeling here. And then, I mean, I think, Scott, you can probably just take this one away here.

I mean, this is Cowboys 20. Anyone here on the board? Who did we pick at 12 again? We picked Caleb Downs. Look, I think one of the players that the Cowboys are very much in on. We already went off the board there to the Jets and Chris Johnson. I think that's a player that they're very interested in. whenever I start to look and look at what the cowboys have done,

the majority of their visits, if you go and you look at the cornerbacks that have been there, you know, you have both Combine and Top 30 visits for almost all of these players, Delane, McCoy, Hood, Terrell, Chris Johnson, Cese, DeAngelo Pons. I mean, all the guys that are there within the first two rounds, the Cowboys have met with at least once,

most of them twice. So I think that's very much in play here. Look, the national media thinks that the Cowboys are very much in on Keldrick Falk. I've had some pushback and some people that I trust in the industry seem to think that they may have a higher grade on another one of the defensive end, Zion Young. I think you can go either way. So I say we go along that defensive line. Let's just go with Keldrick Falk since, you know, you've got the Daniel Jeremiah's. and Peter Schrager's of the world going in that direction,

and Chris Johnson's already off the board. So one thing I will tell you is that we do have a couple of things working in Falk's favor, unless you had specifics that were not Falk. Jerry has tended to draft young guys early, and Falk is on the younger side. He also is, in terms of just his current profile, you know, his past rush stuff isn't great, but he's, like, really solid against the run.

You can think about what they really were trying to do last year and all like the passive aggressive, passive aggressive like Parsons bullshit about like, you know, we couldn't stop the run. Like Falk is kind of the opposite of that type of dude. They've kind of made some splashes like Rishan Gary to try to grab some pass rush.

So Falk fits. I also just want to say, I'm not mocking him here. This is the start of Jacob Rodriguez territory. They massively need offball linebacker. Texas kid, Raz kid, all of it. This is the start of LB2,

Jacob Rodriguez. I guess that's all I'm going to say. So I like Kevin, Kendrick Falk here, but this is Rodriguez to start. I'm fine with Falk. I mean, Scott,

you're scaring me if you're like, they're, they like Zion Young, who's not even like a first rounder more, you know, like that gives me caution of putting Falk here at 20. Yeah, look.

I think I'm going to put Chris Johnson here, but I mean, just, you know. When it comes down to it, like you've got, there's information flowing, you know,

multiple spots. For me, I would tend to lean a little bit more towards a Kedrick Falkerkech even though I've had some pushback and say that they like Zion Youngmore. I think when you start to look at it and everything I've heard is that, what Cudrick Falk is going to interview well. I think teams and GMs are going to like what you have in a young kid who's a hard worker.

Some of the tapes are a little bit inconsistent as far as his sack numbers and stuff like that. But I think when you look at Dallas, Dallas tends to meet with the guys that they draft. They have a top 30 visit here with them. I think they've actually met with them twice. So I think I'm comfortable here with Falk over, you know, and Akeem Mesidor over a little bit of a Zion Young that I'm going to have to dig into a bit more. But you've had the Peter Shriguez, Daniel Jeremiah, and other guys, you know, connect to Paul Kier.

So I'm comfortable with him being the pick. TJ Parker, did they meet with Parker at all? Nope. Not that I have. All right. I think we go Falk What do you guys think? I like Falk.

Lock it up. You know, it feels like a win for the Cowboys coming out of the draft, right? They, you know, addressed two defensive positions, two starters. They should feel probably pretty good about that with all that they have need-wise. All right, Nick, give it to you for Pittsburgh. It looks like your recent mock does have the person available. You can talk me through that or any other considerations you would have here for the Steelers. of 21. Yeah, definitely. For me, it's really between wide receiver three here behind like

Pittman and Metcalf versus left tackle of the future. Kind of admitting defeat on the Broderick Jones pick there. For what it's worth, PFF Gratim 57 overall last year, and he's entering a contract year. And they also have a left guard spot pretty vacant as well. So you're talking about left side of the offensive line or you're talking about wide receiver. Reliable beat. Jerry Dulac's been kind of banging the drum for wide receiver. Sorry, I should say pass catcher here because he's kind of been into King and Sadiq, if Sadiq were to fall. And even dating back to the Combine, even like Matthew Barry's like fantasy article, like the one thing that was known, like it is known at the Combine was that the Steelers

were interested in wide receivers. They've clearly done a lot of homework there. So I'm going to, I'm going to stick with that, especially. considering, I think it was yesterday, I tweeted about, I think the B-Rider there in Pittsburgh was Nick. I forgot his name. I saw it with an F. But he kind of reminded me of this connection between Kirk Signetti and his brother apparently, he's Indiana coach, his brother apparently coaches with the Steelers now. And then the wide receivers coach for the Steelers, apparently recruited Cooper at Indiana. That was enough connection. for me to be like, okay, he's within the range.

It's a team need. He can play within the slot, which is substantial because you have Metcalf and Pittman on the outside there, and they don't really have a lot of slot play. So you have Cooper who's able to go in the slot. You have connections there. You fits the range. It fits the need. And it fits the win now approach, right?

Like if they're banking on Rogers coming back, then they need like all the past catchers there. So to me, this is one that my conference. and its level is higher than other picks in this area, I would say. Yeah, I like that. I went with, I had big Iione there for Pittsburgh. I do think one of these like swing tackle guards is in play for them too, but I think you make a good compelling case for Cooper.

Scott, what do you think here about Pittsburgh? I think they would love Ione if you were to fall down here, but I don't think that's going to end up happening. Look, I think when you start to look at it, three players based upon how those boards fall that I would consider. Jerry Dulac has kind of pushed back a little bit on offensive line being what they're going to target early. I think they're clearly going to be looking for either that wide receiver position or

safety. I think McNeil Warren is in play here as a safety. But I have right now, my feel is that it's Omar Cooper. They've done a little bit more meeting with Boston, but look, the ends that they have when Cooper wouldn't require them to go ahead and have another top 30 visit. I think Cooper, the other thing you start to look at is he's built differently than the other two receivers they have in Pittman and D.K. Metcalf so he can work out of that slot a little bit more, give them some run after a catch.

And if they're, look, they're in quarterback limbo right now. If they're going to entice Rogers back for one more year, I tend to think they're going to do that with a wide receiver over a safety. So I think that's the route that I'm going to go and you start to look at, you know, the new coaching staff and what they've done in the past, I just tend to lean with Omar Cooper here. Yeah, I don't see safety at all. I really don't look at the roster. I mean, yeah, I think it's offensive line or receiver.

I think that Cooper is a compelling argument. Connor, let you get the click. You can throw in a... I have Cooper. So you guys already... You guys nailed it. Dun. Cooper's it.

Yeah. 22. 22 is interesting. I've kind of. I kind of been leaning one way, and now I'm kind of leaning the other. Scott, I'll let you get this one started. It feels like a team that definitely needs, I think, some trench work. You think about how bad the offensive line was last year.

That makes a ton of sense to me. This could feel like a team that could maybe not care about Mesador's age either. That would make some sense, or if you want to sell me on them liking DJ Parker, something like that too. But I think offensive line makes more and more sense. for the Chargers. I'm not sure where you're out, Scott. Look, I like Chase Pesanis. He's a player that they've met with.

I think he meets what Harbaugh wants an offensive line. The offensive line was the killy heel of that team last year. You have all the injuries. I just think they're looking to build up and make that identity, you know, with the run and go ahead and protect the quarterback and let this offense go. You know, T.J. Parker has been the other player here. And look, I think the chargers are an outside, you know, dark horse for Malachi Lawrence. I think they need an edge defender with some juice to go ahead and add to that defense.

I think there's going to be a time here coming up, you know, at this point in the draft where Lawrence has more juice than what these other defensive ends left on the board have. And there comes a point where he has to come off. Right now, you know, I think Iione, if he fell to here, he would be. in play. With that being said, I think I'd go chase Bassanis, but it's not a strong, you know, feeling. I think, you know, it's based more upon the injuries and the downfall that that team had last year. So I would kind of lean towards Bassanis, but look, if you gave me a compelling argument for Lawrence or even a T.J. Parker, I could go with that as well. Would you go Basantis over Lumu, for instance? A little bit more versatility that can, you know, kick out to the outside if need me.

I've seen that here and there lately, but I just think with, you know, what you look at as far as the interior part and how that just fell apart, I just think Pesanis is a little bit more geared in towards playing that guard. Yeah, they've addressed, or at least have thrown some resources at guard, it failed tackle prospects, right? They, you know, brought in Trevor Penning and RIP Colstrange. former Patriot first round pick at guard. So yeah, you could sell me on either of those things. I definitely think it's a good home for Lawrence, too. Nick, any thoughts on the Chargers? Yeah, I mean, we can't talk about the Chargers without mentioning, like,

the massive need for defensive line. I am agreeing with Scott in the respect that I've kind of shifted sales there, where now I think offensive line might be the play there over defensive line, even though plenty of Chargers fans would argue DL is a bigger. deed with, you know, all these old guys there, like Dupree and Khalil Mack and Dalvin Tomlinson there and just a lot of mentoring contract years and well above 30. But I saw, you think D-Line is an option. You mentioned Mezzador. He's somebody that I've had mock there in the past. Right now, I'm on low move for this, but I could see Bessantis. I know Josh Norris is on team Bessontas

for this pick as well, for what it's worth. But yeah, I'm on low move because, My kind of tiebreaker, if you will, was they, just their injuries along the offensive line last year, 51 out of 90 possible starts like Slater and all combined for four games. And I just see that as like, okay, you have Herbert. I see that as like we need a guy who, okay, playing guard, definitely for left guard, let's slide him in. But this will give us some versatility if one of those guys either doesn't recover from the injury well or gets. re-injured. They're both coming off a major kind of surgery situations. So to me, it was kind of like an insurance policy as the tiebreaker there. But I could definitely, the Bissantas sounds like he would also be like really chargers type.

So I could go either way there. Connor, I let you make the click. I want offensive line, but you could sell me on defensive end as well. I mean, look, it's actually decent day two defensive end group. Texas Tech Kid Romola Height Derek Moore from Michigan R. Mason Thompson

or Thomas from Oklahoma Gabe Jackis from Illinois those guys all probably go on like early, early round two. So like there's some ability to kind of sit on some of these guys if you don't think there's a huge gap between Malachi Lawrence

and some of them. And you do think there's a tail off a little bit at offensive line. I don't understand why teams would do that. I've flipped the opportunity. Vincent and Lawrence. You guys laid out in all the arguments why. Let's go with Pasantis here.

I think that's what I had my final, or I'm trending towards having that my final mock. To it. All right. 23, Philly. Nick, we know Roseman likes to address the trenches. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes ahead and makes that click again. You have anything kind of off the board here for the Eagles?

What do you think they do with 23? Trench pick. For sure, that's what I'm leaning toward. I could see an outside shot of wide receiver. Maybe if they know AJ Brown's gone, maybe like a Denzel boss and makes sense. But to me, it's the situation where they want to adjust the trenches. My initial lean was, and honestly, my still lean is offense here. Lane Johnson's getting old and they need a successor there.

Their right guards in their contract year steam. So there's also some issues with. along the defensive line, Nolan Smith, Epicady's also, I think, are both in contract years. I'm not mistaken. I could see safety maybe there, but to me it's probably going to end up being trenches. I currently have Mesidor plugged in here

because they're kind of in win-now mode, so they might overlook the age. But, you know, how he's going to stick close to kind of the consensus board, take a player who falls. It's kind of right where a lot of experts have Mesidor going. I could also see them going offensive line here. My confidence levels kind of in terms of particular player matches here is lower than

other teams in the area. Yeah. I think Emanuel McNeill Warren's kind of sneaky here, but I would lean offensive line. But I think this is actually a pretty viable out for me, Neil Warren. But Scott, do you have any liens on Philly? Yeah, I think wide receiver was interesting to me. But the more I look at it, I feel like they've prepared themselves for the A.J. Brown situation with Dantavian Wicks trade.

I think they would maybe be comfortable. You'd basically be running out there with Hollywood Brown, Devante Smith and Dantavian Wicks. A few years ago, Dantavian Wix was thought to have upside. He's kind of got washed out there in Green Bay and now he's found a new home. Look, the player that I keep hearing, and there's two guys along that offensive line that I think make a lot of sense. And one that they've met with is the kid from Arizona State, I'm not sure.

I don't know that this is too early for them. But when I start to look at it, look, Jordan Milata was a project. And he paid off for him. Howie Roseman generally is forward thinking. This guy might need some seasoning, you know, for a year. Maybe they can play him at guard. You know, maybe, you know, next year is his year when he moves out to tackle. But like, the people that have worked this kid out seem to have raid reviews about him.

I think Howie Roseman is forward thinking enough that this might fit him. And then the other player that I think you would look at would be Lake Miller, who, you know, Mr. Ironman there, you know, I think he never missed a practice or something with Clemson. You know, a bigger guy, six, seven. I think he's, you know, had a ton of starts and experience there. I think he's another player that could also fit and maybe slide in and maybe play a little bit more quickly. But that's kind of where I lean, I would tend based upon the buzz that I and I chore, had, I would tend to lean a little bit more towards them.

They've met with them. But, you know, it's not a team that I'm set in stone with a strong feel for. Yeah, I put Mad Max there, Connor. But yeah, I mean, you can tell me on any of these three remaining, I guess, offensive tackles at the top. Let's go with Max then. I like Max. I haven't been in my mid-late first round right in this range.

Makes a lot of sense. Also agree with Paulino. Appreciate you hanging out. AJ Brown trade's happening. Yeah, it seems to be like a foregone conclusion at this point. They also seem to, like everyone's saying, they feel good about Dantavian Wicks and, you know, everyone there.

Yeah, coming to union. I mean, I think that's a joke that you feel good about Dantavian Wicks and Hollywood Brown. I mean, that's just like, it's going to be like literally like, I mean, Jalen Hertz throwing to those guys is just going to be hilarious to watch. I mean, it's going to be incredible. So, you get the offensive linemen to establish the hell out of it, you know?

Yeah, and maybe that, That's the better way to win, I know, probably than Jaylenerts thrown to a good player, you know, so that'll be interesting. Again, Carnal Tates to the Browns, our first selection, they're on the clock again at 24. Didn't do any Browns trades? Beals like Scott offensive line would be our need, right? We're kind of just figuring out which one we want to do first. Here we are with a couple still on the board, unless you want to go different. No, look, the only caveat I'll say is that the Browns have been another one of those teams that has been heavily

connected and interested in Emmanuel McNeill-Worn. I think he would be the dark horse here. But look, we've talked about it, and it'd be in, you know, offensive tackle and wide receiver in some way, shape, or form. We've already got Tate. So I think this is where Caleb Loomo comes into play. He's the guy that I think would make the most sense based upon this board. Yeah.

I wanted to, I'll, times two, on the Emmanuel McNeill-Warn thing, I think it's viable as a sneaky spot for him. But yeah, I like Lumu here too. Nick, any pushback? Any Brown's thoughts? No pushback. I'll third, which all are saying about EMW, and I'll just mention that in terms of like mocking strategy.

I mean, Lomu, his top 30 visits, if you're looking as that as a factor, a puzzle piece in this equation here, it's like the Chargers, the at 22, the Eagles, 23, the Browns 24, I believe the Bears at 25, And so basically it's just kind of right in the middle of his range. So I like it from a mocking's perspective.

I can lock it in, Connor, 25 to the Bears. Tricky ones has been kind of Emmanuel McNeil-Warn chalk-ish, though the market doesn't reflect that as we touched on last time. We see if it's moved at all because the Bears were chalk. Yeah, I mean, safety plus 270 for the Bears to go defensive line edge is a minus 130. which you can interesting that's all um so i'm not sure what we want to do here but i'm good with either uh manual mcineal warren if you guys had an edge rusher there if you wanted to go off the board scott any thoughts on what the bears would do here look uh i'm going to go ahead and defer to connor on this one

um you guys are up in chicago that's more your local area i know connor's had some connections in the past lately what i've been hearing i've kind of had emmanuel mcgill warren here but i i've heard a lot towards T.J. Parker and maybe even Arcaden McDonald being in play for Chicago. Those are kind of, you know, what's been getting floated around. Like I said, I'll defer to see if Connor's got any more information on anything he's heard. I haven't heard much, but I feel pretty good about one of T.J. Parker, Manuel McNeill Warren, you know, a lot of the local people here you're talking, and that's where they seem to be going. One of the, those two guys, both very much seem to be Ryan Pull's guys.

So I'm basically just been alternating between one of them. It's going to be a coin flip for who I choose my mock, for be honest. Yeah. Yeah, I left last mock. I left Emmanuel McNeill Warren out, which was tough.

But I did have T.J. Parker in there. Kind of like the way it flows for the back end, a little bit better the other way. But again, that's just me making a lock and not anything that's predictive. I don't know where Emmanuel McNeill Warren goes otherwise. That's the problem. That's kind of the thing here is if he gets past Chicago at 25,

the outs are pretty thin. beyond the Bears, right? So we've kind of laid out some... We've kind of laid out ahead of him, but no, I really don't think... Again, considering what Miami needs, no, the bills are... Bills have made some other moves at the position. I just, I don't think that would surprise me a little bit, I guess, but I don't know. Yeah, I just don't see a lot of homes for him after that.

I think I might just mock him there then, because I want him in the first round somewhere. I just don't know. maybe that's a bad way to look at it, but I'm probably just going to put him there for my mock, just because... Buffalo brought in C.J. Garner Johnson, Gino Stone. They have, you know, Cole Bishop, who they used an early second round on in 24.

They really liked, apparently, Jordan Hancock, who was injured at the start of last year, but was starting in the playoffs for them last year. So I don't feel like they look at their team and go, hey, we massively need to... On top of Gino Stone and C.J. Gardner Johnson, and we need another safety in the first rounds. So that would surprise me.

Wood New England, I vaguely heard that they may have some interest. I know they brought in Kevin Byard. They like Craig Woodson too. You know, they took last year in the first, in the early day two. I don't, I don't know. I mean, they do use three a good deal.

So you could sell me on that. But I think there are other pressing needs. Yeah. I vote we go Warren then just to make this easy let's do it all right McNeil Warren done all right Buffalo 26

um like this is a obviously a ready to win now team in a lot of ways they have a pretty good roster they've you know obviously you've made some additions in the secondary that she just kind of laid out they also added D. Alford

and Nickel you know these the first round on Max Harrison last year. They have Christian Benford on the other outside corner they've added. Bradley Chubb. I still think you can get away with some defensive line help. To me, you look at this roster. It has a gaping hole in the middle. This team, you could run all over this team last year.

They dealt with some injuries up front. Some of those guys are back. But this team desperately needs a linebacker. This is where I'm mocking Jacob Rodriguez, guess if you wanted to make a case for, again, the defensive end, I could see it too, but this is Jacob Roder against his home. What about like Lawrence or Messador here? Any interest in either?

Yeah, Scott, what do you think? I've kind of been leaning back and forth. Look, Buffalo doesn't have anybody like Lawrence, but I tend to have been leaning in towards the middle of that defense getting shored up, whether that's, you know, with Noonan kind of starting to sell me a little bit more on Roger. Rodriguez and then Rodriguez in the news getting, you know, some buzzed on the back end. I think some teams are going to just gravitate towards what he offers and the way he reads things.

And then the other player, you know, that you maybe starts to look at with you like, Caden McDonald, although I tend to like him a little bit more towards like Houston. So I can be sold on Rodriguez. I could also be sold on them, you know, taking a guard of some sort, you know, for the offensive line. I think this is a team that has had a lot. lot of their holes covered by just having Josh Allen. The other player that I will throw out here, they have done a lot of homework on Boston. I think one of these wide receivers, whether it's

Casey Concepcion or another guy, I think that they could be in play. So I think this team has a lot more holes than what people tend to realize. So I can be sold a number of different routes. I I haven't had them locked down yet. But I think, you know, I don't mind Rodriguez. I don't mind like Caden McDonald's. And if you want to tell me it's going to be Denzel Boston, Stevie Johnson is working with Keon Coleman and things to think that they haven't given up on them. So, you know, I don't know what Nick has to say.

Similar sentiment there. Malachi Lawrence is a player that's high on my board for them, T.J. Parker as well. along those. They're changing schemes. Like I agree with you, Scott, that they, like wide receivers definitely in play despite DJ Moore there. A lot of fans just think, oh, well, you know, they trade up so much for DJ Moore. They're not going to take a wide receiver. But I don't know. I think some of the reasons they had to make all these moves is because they weren't satisfied with the offense, right? So I don't think they see DJ Moore as like this savior there. Like, okay, we're set with DJ Moore and Khalil Shakir and Keon Coleman, right?

So, yeah, I think Casey Concepcion, Omar Cooper, if he falls, Mesodore's in play, if he falls, T.J. Parker, Caden McDonald, Lawrence. There's, look, there's just a lot of names there, right? And then now we're throwing Rodriguez into the mix. Thanks, Ryan. But, no, but, yeah, I could go in a number of different directions here. So whatever, they all make sense to me. In my mock, I have Parker. But part of that's just strategic based on kind of wanting to slot him right knee.

the Bears. I could also end up seeing me kind of finalize either Malachi Lawrence or A key mezzador there. A tiebreaker could probably be defense just because I think it was so atrocious last year. And they're changing schemes. That's another thing. When you change the whole scheme, they bring in Jim Leonard, they're switching to a three, four. I just, when you change schemes, you need personnel to kind of like match that kind of stuff. So my tiebreakers toward defense. Yeah, some of the local, you know, people that are tied into the bills, stuff that I've read, feels like they would lean edge over interior because I was also kind of Cade on McDonald's early in the process. But I think Edge would make a little more sense. I've played my hand here, Connor.

I'm going to let you make the click on whatever you want to do for the bills here is our DJ on the ones and twos. Let's go. I'm telling you guys, kids fun to watch football. About four to one, five the ones that lot there on Jacob Rodriguez to be. first round pick. I'm probably going to go Messador or a defensive lineman, but I hear the case and you love him. So why not?

Let's do that. 27, I like Conception, if you guys are interested in that at all. They need more juice as wide receiver. They could go a variety of directions, but conception makes sense. Easy click for me. I've been, you know, taking receiver there a lot and six

for them, which is, or for Cleveland, which has given me conception a lot at 24, but him being available for the Niners makes a ton of sense, 27 piece. Easy click. Yeah, I like Concepcion. I have him a little bit higher. I think Malachi Lawrence is maybe another landing spot here for San Francisco who could use an edge rusher. But I think you're going to have some teams that are higher on Concepcion and his upside and think that maybe they can fit the drops. I think, look, when you have Mike Evans, that's a one maybe two-year max fix. And, you know, I think Concepcion, you start to look at it.

I think Kyle Shanahan could get the most out of them. Yeah. Let's do it. Keep it moving. Wrap this up here. Dinner time. We've got snacks, but we're going to get dinner now. Yeah.

For full from coffee to snacks to dinner. We're bringing everyone through the whole thing, though. I mean, what do you guys want to do here? Like some offensive line for the Texans, I think makes sense. I mean, like, and I've seen Caden McDonald there. I kind of got off of it. Blake Miller could be interesting here. I don't know.

Pregnone? I like offensive line or, you know, actually, I'm warming up to the Cane McDonald thing again. Nick, do you have any thoughts on Houston? Yes, definitely. I've been following kind of Lanzer line. He seems to suggest that they're also probably leaning into our offensive line there. It might be someone they trade down for,

maybe a Tysen some trading spot there, not to complicate things because we're in a rush, but this is kind of my in my notes on my spreadsheet. It's like, okay, if I'm going to do the tradeout spot, it's here, right, based on the history. But also, but right now I have Blake Miller there. Perfect character fit. I think he gives some flexibility along the offensive line. They can plug and play him at right tackle, and then they can move maybe Brady and

Smith, who they just acquired it left guard. There's some rumors about that. I just think he kind of completes the offensive line for now, and he's a good character fit. And I even kind of Lance Zerline, who I rely on this kind of pick for, I even kind of tweeted at him yesterday. And he said that he would be a fit. He's had a 30 visit there as well. I just think it's a nice, in his range, I guess. It's a nice marriage here in Houston.

I like it. Connor, click that Blake Miller, lock that one up. Boom. 29 Kansas City. What do we do? Rubin Bain last time? You need to go McCoy. This is it.

McCoy. McCoy. McCoy. McCoy. McCoy. McCoy and Rubin Bain is just, I know, mean nuts on the table like from Kansas City. I mean, that is awesome.

Are you open to that? All right. I think that's great. Yeah. I think it's what I currently, I think it's what I did put out yesterday too. So that would make a ton of sense. I think he doesn't,

I think he right here, 2930 are his landing spots because Miami can afford to take a red shirt year from McCoy to if he just so happens to not be fully healthy. With him off the board, things get a little bit a little bit trickier. for sure. We went Spencer Fano there. Scott, any thoughts on Miami at 30? Again, having a ton of needs. Look, they've got a ton of needs. I think we've got two players here that would fit with them in Acquemezador or Denzel Boston. I could see them going either one. Mesidor is a little bit older prospect, but would give them a little bit of juice on offensive line.

Also a Miami guy. Look, they've got nothing. Absolutely nothing. They can't be Mesidor though, right? Because like, By the time Mesedore, by the time they're competitive, and Azador is 30. Absolute dog shit is what they have at the wide receiver course. So let's, I'm going to vote Denzel Boston. They need a wide receiver. I think he's falling a little bit in this situation with us.

So he's going to get my vote. Boston? All right. Yeah, I like Ryan's point. Yeah. He's old and it's Waddle. Sorry, Connor. I don't know if I interrupted you.

I can't, I can't hear you. But I like the point that he's, he's, they just trade a, bottle for that exact reason because it's timeline thing. So Denzel Boston, they are a corner like Colton Hood or something like that. Yeah, I like it. Noon, you're making this pick. You're making this pick.

Who do you want? Malachi Lawrence. Oh, all right. Malachi Lawrence. I didn't try to talk you guys off of him for as long as possible, but I was, you know, I would love to see a situation where Malachi Lawrence falls to New England. He's a fit for what they need.

Stylistically is a fit for what they need. And I'm very, very, very, very, very high on the prospect. And again, probably not a early down contributor. Brelly probably plays 45, 50% of the snaps in year one. They need to replace the KVion Chase on role. And that's the same exact role. Clear passing downs go out and win. And he's a huge fit.

So love that one. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, Malachi Lawrence is guy. I'm going to have my first round. But now we're in a tricky spot. We have Messador, Parker, Hood, Simpson, all guys that I am going to have. have probably in my first round or on the fringe. I'm going to have this as Cardinals trading in for Simpson on my final.

Just do it. We're going to end up having to clip this and share the mock anyway. People love that we went ahead and did that. Yeah. How do we do this? Cardinals. Yeah, right there. Oh, there you go.

Okay. And then we'll, whatever, we'll just give them like, I don't know, the second and a seventh. Yeah, there you go. Okay, done. Arizona Cardinals. Ty Simpson. Done.

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