Move The Line - 2026 NFL Mock Draft 2.0 (Live)!
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Hello and welcome to the move of line.
Presented by four four bets, Ryan Noon,
Connor Allen, Scott Smith, NFL draft.
It's less than 10 days away.
It sneaks up on us.
We're going to do some mock draft today.
We're going to talk some draft, talk some betting markets,
get a little bit more information.
Things are shaping up here.
Connor, what's going on with you?
How are we doing today?
Yeah, great.
Time's getting wild.
Rumors are swirling,
and I think we're going to have some disagreements on the show.
I'm excited.
I love it.
Scott, been grinding as always,
trying to put, you know,
piece together rumors team visits going on with you buddy yeah man just in the streets tracking down
some team visits uh trying to get as much information as i can on some of the medicals that are
under scrutiny and so just trying to put it all together grinding we got a what a couple what 10 days
12 days wherever not even so it's the home stretch time to start uh making some money we're
walk through a our attempt to build what can be a consensus mock draft today i'm sure we'll have
some disagreements, some pushback, some discussion around it.
We try to match up some of the current betting markets that are starting to
populate out there, a little slow burn, but I think we're seeing more and more
things that we can start to take some action on.
I know we've all made a few bets here and there, but we'll start to try to tie some of that
in today.
But let's jump right into it, Connor.
You bring up the board.
We're going to use the draft board from our friends over at Underdog.
Highly suggest you're checking this out if you have not already done so.
Lots of cool elements to this one as well.
not a lot of speculation at the top here Connor
no I think we can you know since we're doing a mock here today
we can lock in probably Fernando Mendoza
I think Kirk Cousins already talked about like mentoring him and stuff
so like I think we're we're past it you know there's nothing else left to discuss
it is it is appreciate the chat so if you're in the chat hang out
let us know your opinions let us know why we're donkeys we're wrong
what your opinions are anything that you're sourcing or can find
to help out to the show, drop it in here.
We appreciate everyone hanging out, as always.
Really interesting spot here.
And number two, Connor, I'll go back to you with this too.
We kind of had some movement here in the market, right?
We were kind of on some early,
and I pushed back on some of the early sentiment around Arvell Reese
being kind of like felt like a consensus.
And now I feel like we've gone all the way back to the other side.
You know, when you have a couple of prominent,
draft Nix is maybe not the right word,
but they'll plug in sources talking about David Bailey
being kind of what they're getting out of the front office
as being the consensus.
It's moved the markets a little bit.
I think this actually makes a lot of sense to kind of,
from a betting perspective,
come in on some plus money, Rvel Reese,
but I'll let you kind of update us on where you think you are,
where the betting markets are, and what do you think?
And so it's a really interesting split right here at number two.
So obviously it started as everyone on Rvel Reese.
It was like minus 200.
I was hearing the same.
So went in on to some Marvell Reese there.
Then recently we got Daniel Jeremiah, Peter Schrager, Todd McShay, Albert Breer,
all saying that they are hearing that it is going to be David Bailey.
They're saying that teams around the league, and they've been very clear about this,
teams around the league are telling them that they think that the Jets are going to pick David Bailey.
And Daniel Jeremiah has even gone as far to say,
I've not heard from anyone from the Jets, but it's been teams around the league.
And all of them cited the exact same thing.
It was literally like verbatim.
It was David Bailey's more pro-ready.
Aaron Glenn doesn't have that much time.
So they're going to want to pick the guy who can come in.
David Bailey, you know, led the country in sacks.
And, you know, he's a good player.
What's interesting is almost all the local Jets beat reporters or Jets like speculators,
writers, bloggers are firm that it is R. Val-R.
race historically the national guys have outperformed jets beat writers and jets local guys
pretty significantly i think we can all remember the sauce gardener connor hughes scenario
um i i don't even count connor hues the local beat reporter anymore so i'm not even
lumping him in i don't know what he thinks i don't know what his opinion is i'm keeping he's permanently
banned i don't even know what the name is i don't know my i blackout when i yeah exactly
someone else put a connor rogers tweet in a discord the other day and i was like whoa whoa
is that, you know, wrong Connor, different.
Okay, okay.
I think Connor Rogers is okay.
But anyways, the point is all of them think Reese.
I agree with you.
I think Reese is a good bet at this point.
I am very, very likely going to be sticking with Reese at number two for my final mock,
barring like a massive shift or more definitiveness from national insiders,
like saying like, I guess just like being being more, even more locked in, which may be a mistake,
but I'm fine going down with that ship right now.
Yeah, make sense.
Scott, where are you out on this?
The two points that I come back to is,
like they're saying Aaron Glenn has to win now.
I just think that Aaron Glenn, A, is a lame duck coach.
So are we really allowing Aaron Glenn to be the coach that
or be the deciding factor who's making this pick?
The second factor I come down to is,
are they going to be playing an even front or are they going to be playing an odd front?
Because if they're going to be playing an odd front,
a three-man front, then I just think that Reese makes,
makes more sense. And also when you start talking about the flexibility and, and what he can do,
I think, you know, I think his ceiling is higher and I think his versatility is also higher.
So if Aaron Glenn's a lame duck coach, we think that this younger kids-
Which in year two is such a tough scene. It may be factually correct, but just, you know,
putting it out there. You know, if that's the case, I just think that Arvel Reese, for the new
staff that comes on may have more versatility in scheme dependent. And we all say that he has,
you know, a higher ceiling at 20 years old at what he is. I tend to, you know, agree that I think
it may end up being Reese. And I think throughout the last two weeks, you're in positions where
you could have gotten plus money on both Reese and Bailey and be sitting pretty to kind of guarantee
yourself a little bit of profit on here. I think as of right now, I'm probably leaning.
Reese 60-40 over Bailey at this point.
And Drew brought up a point here.
It doesn't sound like the local beatwriters have any info.
They're speculating.
I can't speak for all the local beatwriters, but some of them do.
And so I'm interested in, more interested in that than the national stuff right now.
So yeah, maybe not all of them do.
But, I mean, there was just a big, I don't know if you guys saw on Twitter, like big beat writer
convention in New York, like Jets beat rider convention.
And so I don't know, some of the scoops there were that almost all of them are leaning
towards all of our Reese, not because it's their opinion, which I don't care about their
opinions.
Yeah.
For sure.
My take from a couple weeks ago and leaning up to it was always like, why are we so sure
on Reese?
But when you get into like the actual schematics of the football part of it, like, Reese does
make a ton of sense in the way that the NFL is playing.
nowadays, the versatility element,
like they signed to Mario Douglas as an offball linebacker.
They gave Jeremy and Sherwood a pretty good contract last year.
It'd be really interesting to see, like, you do have the fallback option of like
if Reese does kind of sputter because he doesn't have many reps as an off ball as an outside,
you know, as an edge rusher and you have to put him an off ball linebacker,
I think he could be fantastic that way, right?
So you do have a little bit of fallback.
So, yeah, I don't totally.
disagree with Debrose, you know, point in the chat, too, of like, you know,
Arrell Reese probably isn't the best linebacker or, you know, or edge rusher, you know,
in the draft, but he probably is kind of, you know, prospect-wise, talent-wise,
maybe one of the best players in the draft, right?
And you could find a hole for him.
So I do think there's just great betting opportunities right now to come back on
Reese as the market's kind of responded the other way.
All right.
Well, let's go with Reese here because I think it brings up an interesting point for the next
couple picks here.
And this is something that I've gone back and forth with.
So three here, I think it's probably between David Bailey, Fransmao and Noah, and there's been some recent Jeremiah Love talk.
I mean, they signed Taylor-Aljir.
They restructured James Conner's contract.
I would be really surprised with Jeremiah Love.
But I don't know.
Scott, do you got any takes here at three, like amongst the three?
Yeah, I think if Reese or Bailey go at two, I think the third pick for Arizona is going to be whichever one.
one didn't go. So here under this scenario, I think we could go ahead and put Bailey here.
Now, my one caveat is we've talked about them going ahead and taking a right tackle.
And I think that's in play, but I think that's only in play if they moved down.
If somebody decides to come up and get whoever, you know, wasn't the pick out of Bailey or Reese,
I think, you know, Arizona would consider a tackle if they moved down and got some extra draft
capital that they could use elsewhere. This is a team that has struggled to go ahead and draft
a past rusher over the last however many years. I don't think they've had an edge rusher that's
gotten more than 10 sacks. So I think Bailey makes a lot of sense here. If the board falls this way,
I think that will be the pick. I think Arvel Reese would be a layup for them. I think the David
Bailey thing makes sense as well. They haven't done anything this offseason to address the position.
and they need someone on the opposite side of Josh sweat.
They kind of have a bunch of, you know, bodies,
but no one that's dynamic to Scott's point.
So the offensive line thing is interesting, though.
I mean, and then, you know, finding a home for David Bailey gets pretty interesting.
That's, there could be a slide situation if they are to go offensive line.
So I kind of agree that it's probably if they were to make a trade down.
But were you leaning here, Connor, just whoever falls between Reese and Bailey?
I think it's Bailey.
I think they're also ripe for trade down with the count.
Cowboys, Cowboys have 12 and 20, have been rumored to really like David Bailey, need a difference-making edge rusher.
And the Cardinals, I mean, they just traded down and back up for Paris Johnson, who is probably a better prospect than, you know, Francis Maunaa.
So, like, you know, I don't think Monty's, you know, immune to doing that.
So let's go with Bailey here, because then it brings up a really interesting question here at four, right?
So, like, I know I'm commandeering the hosting here a little bit new.
And I'm sorry, but I'm, but we have Schaefter coming out three weeks ago saying
Jeremiah Love is not going to be picking number four.
And I feel pretty confident that both David Bailey and Arbo Reese are like would be,
you know, run up to the podium picks for, for this Titans team.
Is it Rubin Bain?
They've been rumored to not like him.
Is it Caleb Downs?
Is it Sonny Stiles?
is it an offensive lineman?
Is it Carnell Tate, who I had in my last mock?
I'm probably not going to have that.
But like, what do they go with?
Like, Nina, do you have any, like, thoughts out here?
Like, or is it just Jeremiah Love?
And like, Shepter's wrong, which is possible too.
I think it's Jeremiah Love.
And I think they had to back away from some of, you know,
I think there was a mountain of Jeremiah love to the Titans,
like post-combine stuff.
And I think they wanted to maybe just kind of calm that
and not play their hands so clearly.
And you started to get the same thing.
Oh, the giant.
at five are really interested in love you know they don't and you have a team clearly at three that
would make a ton of sense to trade back you don't want to you know i think basically be you know
putting a really clear mark on what you're trying to do it for so i think using some of the national
media talking heads to to kind of throw a little smoke out there is probably what uh you know shepter
was kind of biting on there so i don't think it's caleb downs i don't think that that makes
since an offensive lineman would not like shock me.
But I definitely think that I think it's Jeremiah Love.
Yeah.
And that's Matthew Barry said today on a show,
he brought up his like 35 takes from the combine and said that the Titans have
Jeremiah Love is the number one player overall on their board.
I don't know if you've heard anything similar, Scott,
but I think I'm probably going to have Jeremiah Love number four to be honest
and just not try and overthink it.
Yeah, I think the thing that makes the most sense, first of all, I have zero faith in the way this organization's run from ownership standpoint.
You look at the things that they've done over the last few years.
I think defensively, they would love for one of those two between Reese and Bailey to slide.
And I think that if that were to happen, I think those players, one of those players would be the pick over love.
With that being said, and those two players being off the board, I think.
This is a team that's devoid of enough talent, lacking an identity that you get a player like Jeremiah Love that's going to help build an identity and help take some of the pressure off of your young quarterback.
That's what makes the most sense to me.
You know, their coach was there in San Francisco, and he was able to see what goes on with Christian McCaffrey and the value of having a good stud running back that you can kind of build around.
and I also think it can take a little bit of pressure off of that defense as well.
So I think Love makes a lot of sense here at 4 as well.
All right.
I agree.
Yeah.
I think we go with Love.
You agree with that?
100%.
I kind of think it's one of the easier clicks in the top five, top 10.
Okay.
I mean, there are other spots in the top 10 for Love.
But yeah, I think it's a smoke screen to remember at the same time,
there's a lot of like, you know what the Giants are, they're poking around on Ken Walk?
they love Jeremiah Love.
Like there's just a lot of like giants talk at the same time.
So I think they wanted to, you know, don't want the giants hopping up ahead of you if that's the case.
So kind of be like, yeah, we're not even into Jeremiah.
I think that that's definitely stuff that goes on in the months leading up to it.
Yeah, that's, I mean, now it brings us to number five because sunny styles,
France Moenoa, I mean, they need wide receiver help considering they lost Juan Dill Robinson
and Malik neighbors not going to be ready for the season.
Caleb Downs is getting some run year, too, potentially, at number five.
It looks like Schefter just went on a podcast a couple minutes ago and said he thinks it's going to be either styles or downs.
Any takes there, Scott?
Yeah, I think for the Giants, for me, I have it narrowed down between two players, and that's going to be either Maunaoa or it's going to go ahead and be Sunny Stiles.
And right now, my lean is more towards Sunny Stiles.
You've had Harbaugh come out and make references and comments about a stop in the run and be protecting their quarterback.
That's the two things that make the most sense right here.
And for me, I'm going to lean a little bit more towards Sunny Stiles just because of the dynamic athlete that he is as far as like testing.
When you start to look at it, I mean, he's built kind of in the mold of what Brian Erlocker was when he was coming out, coming from a safety position.
You look at the way the modern day NFL is starting to be played and wanting your linebackers to be able to stay.
on the field, cover tight ends, cover running backs out of the backfield.
He's a guy who his athleticism is going to allow that to happen.
Some of the people that I value as far as talent evaluators think he's one of the cleanest
prospects here in a draft, whereas you heard, Moe Noah has had to go back to kind of get
some stuff, and I think he might have some back issues that have to get cleaned out there
in the future.
That's not drastically going to drop his draft position, but I just think for the Giants, for
hardball what he had in defense in Baltimore and what he's trying to build putting your
sample on a clean prospect like sunny styles makes a lot of sense are you a style with that too
i love styles um it's a need right that right now they have um you know micha mcfad and penciled in is
the linebacker two next to tremont enn's um it's just one of the more fascinating teams to me
because you could sell me on carnell tate you could sell me on caleb downs you could sell me on
Spencer Fathom. Yeah.
Who would be fantastic value in the market if you're looking to speculate as like first
offensive linemen off the board. I think he's a better plug and play year one fit.
He also has the ability to project him if you want to play him in guard year one and see if like
what happens with Illuminaur and he kicks out to right tackle. You know, you have a lot
of options for, for Fano. A lot of the, you know, OG offensive linemen gurus love him in this
class. So from a betting standpoint, there's some speculative, whether it's top
five, Fanu.
I think there's some different stuff that you can kind of manipulate there to maybe kind of
get some good CLV here in the next week or so.
You can click anything on the Giants, so it makes sense.
Some of the stuff that I've heard as well from Scott, probably reading some of the same
stuff.
Trenches, stop the run, some of the things that really were problems for the Giants last year,
and Sonny Stiles does kind of check that box.
Yeah, I think you put that all together.
I'm probably going to those styles, to be honest.
It seems like just very much a hardball, set the tone type of pick.
Yeah, no, if you wanted to get in on the offensive line stuff, this does feel
like a team that would be more Fano than
Mauiowa and that would
provide some value in the betting markets, right?
Like, you know, I don't
think you're seeing
Mauiola play guard,
you know, especially in his first year.
I think you probably see him start at the outside, but you want to
see that he can't do it before you move
him and make that move. You know, maybe you guys disagree,
but I feel like the opportunity for
Fanner to come in and be a plug and play guard
in the opposite, maybe you see that he
does have the size and the ability to kind of move
to the outside as you get, you know, some experience.
I could be sold on that too.
So they like Tyler Nubin.
They signed Javon Holland, you know, in free agency last year.
I feel like they're okay at safety.
I mean, corner would make more sense to me than, you know, than safety, to be honest.
I think we go style.
One other lean that I'll throw out there is that tracking all the visits,
the Giants have not had a visit that I've found with Maranoa.
They have had one with Fanoa, and they've met with sunny styles at the combine.
So that's just another little tidbit to kind of break the tie for me.
And you know you just brought that up.
I hate to go back to it.
But the Cardinals, we've talked about them trading down potentially or like
drafting offensive linemen.
They've met with zero offensive linemen that I've found.
I don't know, Scott, did you find any?
Because like normally you'd think that they'd meet with like Fano, Monoa, like, I don't know.
So the Cardinals have met with Ihanashore or however you pronounce his name,
the big tackle from Arizona State.
you know, that might be something a little bit further down.
But as far as the guys that are going at the top, no.
I mean, it's been mainly Rvel Reese, David Bailey, both at the combine, top 30 visits.
They've met with Ruben Bain and Kailed Downs at the combine.
So when you start looking at it, like the guys that are there at the top, no, they have not met with.
I mean, yeah, to me, to me, that was more further signal of like they're just going to lock in,
whichever one doesn't go.
Yeah, makes sense.
styles here i think we go styles what do you think yeah yeah i like it um all right six Cleveland
Browns I think we all had carnell Tate mock there um or maybe Spencer Spencer Spaner
those are probably two of the better options but i think that the browns are a little bit up in the
air also another trade down opportunity i mean noon you got any any liens here at six I think
there's a lot of different directions it seems like carnal tape makes a ton of sense um you know I do
think they're sneaky like Caleb Downs team if they happen to like oh love him um you know i think
that it could be it does fit some needs on the roster um but again i think you do need to kind of
solidify that that room is is real bad and you're kind of playing chicken with your second first
round pick at wide receiver i mean unless they just kind of think these guys are more flat than
um some do and i know some people are you know not necessarily sold on carnal tape being
significantly better than the rest of the wide receiver class.
You know, so I could be, I could be sold on them doing a number of things.
I also do think it is an interesting trade spot for the Browns to maybe move back.
And for a team, like whether it's the Jets, Cowboys, some of those other teams that are kind of
hovering in the middle there, they would want to kind of solidify the guy that they want.
Yeah, no, for sure.
I think I had Tate won my first and then I had Spencer and my second.
Scott, where are you at with these?
I just lean that it's Carnell Tate here.
And I've heard some of the national guys say that Tate's going to go higher than expected,
but then you see Trigger and some of the other ones kind of have him second after Jordan Tyson.
I just think, one, you have to start to build some stuff.
I think it makes the most sense for them to go ahead and put a wide receiver in this position.
and if they're going to move and if they're going to trade,
they have ammo with that second pick to move up
and kind of like cherry pick whatever tackle that they want
that they think fits.
You know, and the other thing is,
is are we sure that Maui Noah or Fano are going to be like left tackles
that you would generally want here from a, you know,
positional value?
I just think that Taiton, the position that he plays,
the need that they have for an alpha,
type of wide receiver, even though he's never been, you know, that number one there at Ohio
State. I think you just look at Ohio State in the way that they put out wide receivers.
I think he makes the most sense for me if I were making a pick here.
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
I think that makes a ton of sense here and puts us in an interesting range here for
7-8-9, potentially get another wide out.
But at 7 for the commanders, Scott, I'll probably just kick it back to you on the commander's stuff
here.
There's another team that I think could go in a wide variety direction.
directions. Yeah, so I think Washington would love two players here. I think that they would love if
Jordan loves slid down. That's not the case. The other player, I think that they're a little bit high
on would be Sunny Stiles. With neither of those players being on the board and them not having a
second pick and only having two picks within the first three rounds, I think it makes a lot of sense
to go ahead and do a trade. I've seen a lot of people making some trades and doing that. But
you know, one of the teams I've seen is the Cowboys,
but I just don't see,
and it doesn't happen that often within the draft
where you see division rivals like that,
like make a trade that's beneficial,
you know, for somebody that they're going to move up
and go ahead and take.
The two players that are kind of left on the board
that you start to look at,
I think Josh Downs, I mean,
to Campbell, Caleb Downs can make a lot of sense.
And then Bain would be the other one.
I do kind of like them possibly moving down here.
But it's finding that right trade partner.
I think Miami would make a little bit more sense
if there's a player that Miami wants to come up and get more so than Dallas.
That way Washington can move down and still stay in front of Dallas,
a division rival.
So if I'm making the pick, I think it would probably end up being Bain.
If they move down, I would probably look for a team like Miami
or somebody else that's looking for an edge defender in a player like Bain to go ahead and move up.
Well, I mean, I think we're having fun here.
So let's make a trade.
Newton.
Who do you, who trades up here?
Miami, Dallas.
And what do we give?
Miami's got two first.
They've got so many needs.
Like I may or another team, it's really hard to, I think, put your thumb on what they do
with the first pick because they do have so many needs.
And another team, you're like, well, you can get the other answer with your second first
round pick.
So a Dallas thing makes sense on page.
other than the fact that they're obviously bitter division rivals, right?
Like, what's interesting to me is they've been pretty active in free agency
and they've signed with money.
Three edge rushers, right?
Kvian Chason, you know, Daufei Oway and Charles O'Manyahu.
They brought in Tim Settle as well as an interior defensive lineman.
So like it's a team.
And again, they have Dorrance Armstrong who's really good.
He's pretty good.
Like he got hurt last year.
So like they had no pass rush.
they really have to use their linebackers a ton
which is again another reason why sunny styles
would be a home run for them
but like edge rusher like I don't
I don't necessarily see it when you think of
like who's wide receiver two there
they would love I would think you know
landing someone carnal Tate
would make a ton of sense now they are not a team
to draft or to trade draft capital
because they barely have any so I don't know
let's do Dallas let's just do Dallas for the sake
because it's fun we'll do Dallas
they give up 112
120 and they'll get back I don't know
a third and a six, something like that.
I think they got a hold on at 20.
You think they got a hold on 20?
Give that.
Yeah, to go, you know,
he has to give up the second first to go.
I mean, that looks more fair.
Let's here.
I guess.
All right, that's fine.
We'll just,
we'll just do that.
All right, Dallas traded and I accidentally selected Monroe Freeling.
Thankfully, we have a back button here.
So they trade up for,
I would assume Caleb Downes.
That's been all the hype, right?
That's been like kind of all the rage here.
Seems like a Jerry pick.
Yeah,
like splashy home run buzzy type prospects right i think jerry likes to win the draft uh you know he likes
those draft grade reports on friday morning um right that would not surprise me at all um to see
dallas make that move he's obviously a pretty versatile prospect we've had shrague come out even today
before we started recording saying he doesn't think he gets past 12 which is a little bit of like
dallas backboard love right he's saying that you know they like him um which would
make a ton of sense they gave jalen thompson some money from arizona but like i think molly cookers
on his last year of his deal and is not particularly good so caleb downs is a really nice plug-in play
here any uh objection scott are you down for that my only pushback would be uh you know how do they
feel about mansword delane um you know coming up here he'd be another player i think if you're moving up
it would make a little bit more sense for the cornerback over uh the safety but i in my mock drafts have
Caleb Downs going to Dallas, so I'm fine with the people.
I hate this for the under nine and a half,
probably over nine and a half bags.
I had those bags myself.
I'm becoming less excited about those bags, to be honest.
Yeah.
Which I get, which I get.
I mean, I get Scott's point.
Like, it matters.
What do they think about Chavonne Ravelle, who they took last year in third round,
who played, you know, hot and cold as any rookie who missed training camp should probably play, right?
So, like, what do they actually think about?
him because otherwise, you know, they grabbed Colby Durant from the Rams.
They have DeRondland and Nickel.
So I understand the cornerback play too, but I think Caleb Downs feels more like a
win in the media too.
And like Jerry cares about that stuff, whether we want to talk about that being stupid or not.
Like he does.
He would be ecstatic.
They've written rumored to love Bailey and Downs.
That's been like all the hype.
So it makes a ton of sense there.
Scott, we've been talking offline about this eighth pick here and how they're, they could
go a little bit off the board, but interested to see if you have any thoughts around maybe
Delane, maybe it's Bain, or another guy, a third guy that you think could be in play.
Yeah. So from what I've understood and some of the information I've got from local guys
here around the team in New Orleans is that the Saints have really been kind of zeroing in
on two players. They have been doing a ton of homework on wide receivers. And I think the
Saints have kind of narrowed it down to two players with maybe, you know, third on the outside.
But those two players that I'm targeting in on would be Ruben Bain and Jordan Tyson.
I've been told but haven't been able to verify to the level that I'm normally comfort with
that the Saints are one of the teams that are comfortable with Jordan Tyson's medicals.
I think here in what a couple of days you're going to have, Jordan Tyson having his pro day workout and running through.
and doing all his performance.
I think that's going to be very important as far as the hype that you start to see
to solidify Jordan Tyson here at the top of the draft within this range.
You look at last year, they took a bit of a chance, you know, with the medicals, with Tyler
Shug.
And the Saints have been a team that have been a little bit loose with some of the
medicals.
You know, I don't necessarily buy in to cementing the Saints here as far as like the
top 30 visit thing. And the reason being is the Saints a lot of times will do, like they will,
they will go and do Zoom meetings with players that don't get reported all the time as a top 30 visit.
And specifically what I am hearing is that the Saints are doing a lot of homework on Tyson.
You look at how they may want to build this offense. And I firmly think it comes down to Bain or Tyson here.
and I think when it comes to Bain,
I think he would be a fit to what Cam Jordan,
you know, has been for that team over the last decade plus
and with his talent.
But I think with trying to build around this young offensive,
you know, coach and a new quarterback
and putting somebody on the opposite side,
I kind of like Jordan Tyson here at 8 as of right now.
Yeah, and I put Kent's comment,
Kent's Weirut, Weiruk, Weirich.
He built a sheet that shows like top 30 visits
And then like how often people have drafted those players
The Saints with Loomis right now have drafted zero first round picks
They've had a top 30 visit with.
Now Nick Underhill commented on this recently
Because people sent him Kent's chart
And he said, well yeah, but they met with these guys
It just wasn't reported, which is kind of what Scott's alluding to here.
But I guess that also lends back into the point
That if it is being reported that you know,
there's like a little bit of like cross here
of like how much of it matters if it is being reported.
Are they leaking that so that it looks like fake, you know, fake interest?
I'm a little bit, you know, I don't really know what to do with it.
I think that it's certainly a good starting point.
I don't know.
You got any takes on that or who the Saints would pick here?
I love, as a football fan, I love to see Ruben Bain here.
I think he's a really nice fit in this defense.
You start to look at the ancillary receivers outside of Chris Olive.
And it's, you know, you get to Mason,
tipped in and bub means pretty quickly and uh that's that's a pretty dicey scenario um you get plus
260 or so right now on jordan tyson to be a top 10 pick which i think is interesting speculation
if you wanted to go that route um i like the saints taking a wide receiver and um i mean the jordan
tight when he plays i mean you can make the case that that's the best receiver in the class um
i think someone's going to think that it only takes one right like the consensus might be hey there's
a bunch of medical issues.
This is a team that feels like they have an offensive minded head coach.
You know, you kind of feel like you maybe landed the plane a little bit at quarterback
with Tyler Shuck.
Like you played pretty well.
So you kind of had to support him with some past catchers.
And I think Jordan Tyson makes a ton of sense.
Yeah, Tyson right now is like plus 750 to go exactly eighth.
I sprinkled a little bit of that.
I bet a little bit of Tyson top 10 because I think he is legitimate outset, 7, 8, 9, or
trade up from the Jets, uh, into any of those spots if they want Tyson. Um, so I don't know,
I kind of like it. For the sake of this mock, I say let's roll with it. I think that's kind of
fun. Uh, and then just kind of see how it shakes out, um, which brings us to nine of the chiefs
and I straight up have no idea. Nuddin, I'd love love your input here because I feel like they could
go three or four different directions, as is, as is with these like eight to 14 teams, eight to 13
maybe. They have a lot of needs, as you mentioned earlier.
Yeah, as we've been touching on this, this is, you know, part of why it's so hard in the first round,
and that's typically the case, right? You're picking in the top 10 for a reason. You have a ton of
needs. You know, we can make the joke that with the new Ruben Bain off the field concerns,
it feels like he was made to be a Kansas City chief. They certainly don't seem to mind that.
Look, if you don't want to say that this is kind of a down year, because obviously there's
questions, quarterback, what's going on with Mahomes? Can you solidify and use this opportunity
to add to your offensive line pool? If you're not really sure what's going on at tackle
opposite of Josh Simmons, do you want to take this opportunity to lock it up? You lost a ton of
corner talent in free agency. I think that's a need that would not surprise me at all. So if they
happen to have one of these guys, now that we have full testing on both, if they happen to have a like
there again can you you know get cute and see can you wait till 29 and get your guy do you are you
okay with a chris johnson there or one of the other guys or a put or someone that could be still
kicking around or do you feel like there's a clear water you want to get your guy here and uh and go
corner so i would not be surprised if they want to i mean i think with the rishy rice news it looks
like water seever probably less likely i don't know if you guys agree with that but that seemed like
maybe a little bit of a fly in the ointment thing that kind of goes away so i lean corner
you know, if you want to get an edge here, they've had some, you know, obviously some edges opposite of
Carlopis has not been something that they've really been able to land the plane with either.
So like, was it?
FAU, Felix, Azumo that they took a couple years ago has been kind of a no-go.
So they could definitely use an edge rusher too.
So like, again, I'm covering the map.
I just don't know what they do.
We've got a lot of needs.
I tend to lean towards Bain at this point, but because they've developed corners so well in later rounds.
but Scott, I mean, these are two pretty awesome corners, I think, if you, like, and they're
great fits for certain teams.
So would you go with a corner here or Bain or I guess even Frans just technically could make
sense here too, or Spencer?
Yeah, I tend to lean between Bain and Spencer Fenno.
Andy Reid's got some connections there to the coach there at Utah.
And, look, Chief fans have had a lot of pushback on them drafting an offensive tackle there at this
fix. So I think if Bain is on the board with the struggles that they've had of generating
consistent patch rush and, you know, drafting this high, I think taking an elite blue chip product
who we talked about the short arms, but the production in the film is there. I think the
chiefs would probably run this card up there with Bain. I do have some consideration for Mansour Delane
and, you know, Jermon McCoy here with everything that they've lost in the secondary. But I just think
that you can still grow.
grab some of those players there on the back end of this first round,
that there'll still be some cornerbacks available for them.
So I tend to lean towards Bain here.
Bain is a, you know, a fit schematically for what they like,
big-bodied, you know, Bain played like over 90% of the downs of Miami's,
not a situational pass rusher.
You can, you know, throw a situational speed edge guy on the outside of him
and kick him inside on pass downs, if that's your thing.
Like, he's a really, really good,
versatile football player.
Again, I'll go back to not a scout.
It's not my thing, but you watch Ruben Bain.
The arm length is not a problem on the tape.
It's not really how he wins.
And so I just don't think it's going to be a problem for him at the NFL level.
He should be a top 10 pick, and he does fit the Chiefs.
Jokes aside with the off-the-field stuff.
He's kind of a, you know, pro-typical spags defensive end.
I also think I don't want to double count the off-fields.
stuff, which teams said that they already knew about at the same time, there is some, you know,
elevated PR through it. Again, Chiefs just like don't care about that at all. So,
I think Bain makes a lot of sense here, given all this drafts gone. And then now,
this feels like another U-pick. I mean, bangles are going to go defense. Who fits the best here?
There's a bunch of good options left, but it feels like in a near lock that they go defense,
right? The cornerback room is really bad. I think they would have loved to have the option with
Caleb downs. I mean, that would be the team that could, you know, kind of cuck the Cowboys and the Cowboys don't get cute and move up.
Yeah, I mean, DJ Turner's pretty good. Dax Hill, I think it would be significantly better if they can move them on the insides. They need someone that allows him to, you know, kind of play on the perimeter. Again, they just, you know, for years have struggled to kind of hold out anyone on the outside. So someone opposite of DJ Turner, who I think is a really good football player and just gets dragged down by plays defense for the Bengals. So no one's going to think.
Anyone that plays defense of the Bengals is pretty good.
But all of a sudden, they're pretty interesting if you add, you know,
Delane or McCoy, you know, whoever you guys think is the best fit there.
Scott, Delane or McCoy here?
I have Delane hire.
Let me check the like visit-wise and kind of see what sticks out.
And, you know, when I'm looking at it, they've done more with Delane as far as
top 30 in Combine visits.
but it's actually interesting because McCoy, with his measurables, fits a little bit more towards what the Bengals tend to go after.
So it's, it's, you know, basically a cornflip between those two guys.
I think generally speaking, I would tend to lean a little bit more towards Delane.
He's kind of been throughout the process, the cornerback one, you know, consensus.
You know, McCoy's been kind of coming up after his workout showing that he's healthy.
But I would, I think I would go with Delane here.
The lane was so good last year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you can totally flip-flop.
I'd be okay with saying that you think the lane goes to Kansas City.
So I think Bain's the pick for the Bengals.
I like it.
Yeah, I think let's go Delane.
He's been higher.
And like I think McCoy could make like a vault into this top 10 range based on all the draft goes.
But, oh, look, I'm not eligible for a prize.
What do I have to do here?
Oh, you just didn't sign in.
You're not putting your.
I'm not.
I mean, I am an underdog.
Remember, I just got to sign in.
Well, whatever.
We'll sign in later.
You know, we're supporting the crew as is by using their mock draft here.
Number 11.
Scott, this is Francis Mowanoa feels like it could be a great pick here.
Or Spencer Fennoe.
I saw someone said the other day, like if he's there, he's going to be the pick.
It was like that strong of wording, I think.
Although I don't know if they anticipated that have we drafted an offensive lineman yet?
No.
something we have. And again,
Fano, what is, you know,
five to one or so to be first
offensive linemen, I think.
Yep. So, and I don't know
where you heard it, but this is,
you know, probably
in line with what you heard. This is
the, I guess, front office,
new front office in Miami. There are a lot of
Packers ties. Packers
draft the trenches. Packers
draft versatility
along the offensive line. Like
Packers drafting high level
Raz versatility prospects in the first round for a decade.
And a lot of people think Farnu is that more than the Magina O is.
So I understand why there's the Fountain Love.
And again, you put them all over.
You basically have a ton of offensive line holes to fill.
So he allows you kind of do that.
Or do you have eyeballs on in a Miami homegrown prospects that you probably have
some more connections to?
Scott, who's the tiebreaker for your?
The interesting thing is that Miami hasn't met with any offensive.
offensive lineman outside of Chase Bazanas, who's like more towards the bottom,
the bottom of the first round and second round type of player.
So it's interesting.
I would tend to go.
Did you go a little bit more?
I mean, what's that?
Would you go McCoy then instead?
No, I don't think I would.
I think it's a team that can go best player available.
And you have Maui Noah kind of dropping down.
I would tend to lean a little bit more towards the Miami product here.
And, you know, he would be, you know, my selection if things fall out right here.
All right.
Let's go with Francis.
That makes plenty of sense.
I think they could go any direction there.
Commanders trade down.
Now pick number 12.
I don't know if anyone's on the board that they, you know, would thought would be at this point.
But maybe McCoy, maybe Spencer, Noonan, who are the commanders picking here at 12?
Maybe they cocked the Rams, who everyone wants to put lemon there.
like look again we go back to like Traylon Burks is the wide receiver too there right now
and we don't know what the long term prospects of of McLaurin past this year so
we're an interesting fit and again a need again going back to what Scott said earlier before we made
the trade they have a need for a wide receiver they would like carnel tate they're visiting
they have a lot of wide receivers coming here for visit I think um kai lemon makes a ton of sense there
I think that's pretty fun Scott commanders we traded down already who are they targeted
with the trade down. So I think the other player to consider here would be Jemad McCoy.
You know, they went ahead and made trades and tried to slide, you know,
cornerbacks in and it just hadn't worked out. So, you know, I think McCoy would be interesting,
but Washington generally does their homework. This front office, you know, has meetings and, you know,
there's nothing connecting McCoy to Washington right now, whereas the flip side of this with Mikhail
is that they have done extensive homework.
They put them through a private work out there at his pro day with USC.
They've met with them and have a top 30 visit scheduled.
And I think when you start talking about it,
we talked about it a lot last year,
how this team was a bit overrated going into last year.
And the pieces around, Jaden Daniels just aren't what everybody,
you know, what you need to continue success.
There's been some rumors that, you know, due to contract,
and age that this could be Terry McLaurin's last year.
Things with Debo Samuel kind of, you know, didn't work out.
I mean, he played well at times when he was the only receiver being force-fed.
But I think you get a guy like Mackay Lemon that can do some things, you know,
after the ball gets in his hands here.
And, you know, we've had, and everybody have had McCoy Lemon kind of pegged, you know,
at 13 to the Rams.
And I think this is a pick that could surprise a lot of people because it's off the radar,
because it's here with Washington.
But I think if the draft fell this way,
this could be an interesting route that Washington would go.
And right now, there are some dots there to connect for this to pan out this way.
I mean, this is our world.
Let's go with McCoy Lemon.
I don't think, you know, plenty of reasoning here.
I think it makes a ton of sense.
But that puts us an interesting spot for the Rams here.
Due to us already only being 13 minutes or whatever, 13, 12 fix in,
43 minutes into the show.
We are going to go rapid-fire.
It's just hard to add any analysis and do this in 60 minutes.
Well, also because, like, I think all of us have their own insights, right?
Like, we all have our own, like, tidbits and pieces we've been picking up about each pick.
Like, you know, we want to make sure, especially up top, like, we have enough, you know, room, I think, for everyone to breathe and talk.
So, Noonan Rams pick, do they stick with wide receiver here and go with there or do they go somewhere else?
Well, it's a tricky team.
I mean, they have, I have a hard time mocking.
Finding a home for Kenyan Sadiq when I do mock drafts.
Now, this is a team that has like 15 tight ends.
So it's really hard to like, you know, see this as a team need for the Rams.
But in the same thought process, if you don't see, you just see Sadiq is basically a slot, a big slot receiver,
then you could sell me on that being a spot for him too.
They just decided they needed a pass catcher.
Again, it's actually a team you think of, okay, we have Buka and we have DeVante Adams pretty thin behind them at wide receiver.
So pass catcher makes a fun of sense.
It's a team that you think can come in and win.
So they need a guy to plug in.
So I don't know how you guys feel about Cooper.
I would love to see Casey Concepcion there.
I think that that's pretty hot.
Let's do that for the sake of it being our draft.
Oh, I thought about this earlier too.
It's like kind of like a, I mean, it would be a massive reach, but I think it's awesome.
Like it would be very fun.
I think it's a good kid.
He's so good.
I agree.
He's so good.
Like I know there's drops.
he's not huge but like
I mean look what what's I think the most
translatable skill is the ability
you get separation and like there's just no
way you watch that guy and they're like yeah he's
he's not going to be able to get open like he gets
that's what he does now does he catch it after he gets
open I don't know not all the time
but like he gets open so
I don't know I like it I locked it in
because again this is our world that sounds
fun it makes sense you get like
plus 110 for wide receiver
for Rams wide receiver yeah
I think it's a good bet
Yeah. I'm going to take the easy one here and go with Vega Ione.
It just makes a lot of sense.
See, I would have pushback here.
Would you?
The pushback I would have is that Baltimore is notorious for just allowing the talent to slide down to them and just plug it in here.
And that's Spencer Fenno.
I like, look, I like Yoni.
I think it could be either one of those two people.
But like every year I get pissed off watching Baltimore just snag the best player at all.
single year lap for like a decade yeah i kind of thought that it could have been downs or rubin bain
for a minute too and just like someone fun on defense that they get but yeah i guess that makes
sense you're right just take finno it's like the falling player it fits them it's what they need
a lot of people talking about sadiq there too and again tight end seven to one um and corners
a sneaky need for them way more than than safety if downs happen to be they're like it's there's
they could use another perimeter corner.
I think a guy like McCoy would fit the way that they normally draft
cornerbacks as well.
So look, I...
Sorry, it's not rapid fire, Connor. It's my bad.
Yeah, it just pisses me off because Baltimore is going to end up with a great player
that slid down to them.
And then you do a redraft three years from now that players a Pro Bowl.
And it's just, I get sick with it every year.
Always. It's really tough.
And then, I mean, now we're at Tampa.
McCoy, I think is popular for the...
them here like mocked. Massador was popular, I think, at one point, but there was some like kind of
water thrown on that. I like I like Iione here. Yeah. You know, I think I think he's a safe pick,
and I don't think he falls too much further than this here in the draft. I think you look at their
offensive line. They've had some offensive line issues like down, down the stretch last year. Look,
you put him next to Tristan Wirth's and you're locked up for the next decade and you don't have to worry
about anything. I think when we start, you know, poking holes through a lot of these prospects of what
this draft is. I just think his upside and safety makes a lot of sense for a team that,
you know, is going to be looking to run the ball a little bit more. I like that too.
$3.50 for offensive line for Tampa Bay.
Oh, that's kind of interesting. Don't mind that at all. There's a lot of good, good ones like kind of
in that range too that should go.
I mean, Freeling's still on the board.
Proctor is around here.
I think all those guys make sense.
But now with the Jets, I mean, Germad McCoy is still there.
Omar Cooper is being very popularly mocked to them.
The one thing I've heard on Cooper is that they like Cooper, but not necessarily this high.
And you've seen Cooper over the last week or two kind of get more and more towards that
consensus of being the pick for them here at 16.
But little tidbits of reading between the tea leaves is that they like him.
But I think even Tony Pauline may have reported that they don't necessarily like him here at 16.
So could they trade back and possibly take them?
Yes.
But he has been kind of a growing consensus here for a team that needs another weapon.
Interesting.
So, all right, Scott, I'll give you the pick.
Who are you going to pick here then?
Look, I think they have a lot of needs.
I would probably go with McCoy being the best player on the board.
If it was me, it's not a player that I have mocked to them.
Yeah.
I've tended to go with the wide receiver throughout my draft.
But, you know, they did sign No Sean Wright in Free Agency.
You know, the opposite cornerback is.
Brandon Stevens, you can upgrade from Brandon Stevens.
I think McCoy, you know, if these front office value him as much as
what they did for his 2024 tape,
I think he would be a pick here.
Look, when you get corners
that produce tackles at a high rate,
one or two things happen in here.
They're either a dog or teams target them like crazy.
And Brandon Stevens always is pretty good,
he's not a dog,
I'll just tell you that.
So the teams like to go after and target him
and get some more opportunities.
Not a dog.
Not a dog.
So having the opportunity to upgrade that position
for a team that's, you know,
again, we get like a Jets,
no interceptions tweet once a day
from some account.
So, like, they need to upgrade playmakers at the perimeter.
Yeah, I think that makes a ton of sense.
McCoy there.
I'm probably just taking the chalk here with Proctor.
I think Proctor makes the line.
It makes a ton of sense.
For the sake of time, 18, the mega chalk here in the teens,
Dylan Theenaman is still on the board.
Would you go there?
Would you go Freeling Noonan?
And safety is 2 to 1.
So it's the mega chalk, but like, safety is literally plus 200 for the Vikings to select.
I guess like if the enemy's gone before though like it's basically dead right like I mean there's no way they'd take that other guy right some people that think that they like manual me Neil Warren quite a bit too so I don't know that that's who they would pick I think you've seen some Sadiq here as well which would make some sense but I don't think we need to get cute I think Thedeman makes a ton of sense you can do he is a he just makes so much sense for what Flores likes to do bring him in the box allow him to kind of play he played like hybrid linebacker at Purdue
like he's he's a great fit for what they want to do yeah that would be it'd be awesome it's
popularly mocked for a reason does a plan out pan out like that no idea but um 19 panthers
looking at i think freeling kenyon sedique i mean maybe an omar cooper could even make sense
just need more more guys out there for bryce scott you got any any thoughts here you know i have
a hard time going for anybody that's not either cidique or monroe freeling um as far as freeling goes
he's got the upside for that left tackle.
You know, they're running into an injury issue here going into next season that he could go ahead and feel a young guy that has a lot of upside.
You know, he's got all the tools and traits.
I find it hard to have him fall on much further than this.
And then the flip side of that when we're talking about Sadiq, if it's not Sadiq here, where do we see Sadiq land?
So I would tend to lean right now a little bit more towards Freeling.
but I don't have a strong conviction towards it.
I mean, let's go Freeling.
I kind of agree that the Sadiq thought process is like,
if not here, then where, and I struggled with that as well.
I don't think we're going to make it through this mock drafting time.
But that's fine.
We're going to come back again on Friday.
So we can finish the mock, get the rest of our thoughts.
We got through 19-plus four and a quarter, offensive line to Carolina, by the way.
And that's, again, you know, Josh Norris talking about that often.
Yeah.
Local, you know, plugged in a little bit, I think, to Carolina.
So some value there for sure on offensive line.
Noon, any other, like, team, I know you had a bunch of like team to position pairings and stuff that you prepped.
Anyone else stood out that we didn't get to?
No, I was just kind of going through a little bit.
I made some notes, but I figured depending on what we were talking about, that we could, you know, kind of highlight some stuff and see some ones that we didn't get to.
I mean, the bear is another one that's kind of a.
chalk pick seems to be safety and, you know,
McNeil Warren to the Bears.
The Bears are like plus 280 to draft safety.
They're minus 135 favorite to go defensive line, which I think is,
which is interesting.
I also don't think offensive line is out of the picture there as well with some of
the offseason offensive line shufflings and retirements and injuries that they've had
there.
That's plus 450.
I don't hate that at all.
The Chargers is another one that's interesting.
Again, it feels like it's offensive.
line or defensive line plus money on both of those spots.
Yeah, the Vikings one we kind of mentioned,
Billy offensive line plus 120 seems to be kind of a common drumbeat
that the Eagles are going to do something along the offensive line,
which makes some sense to me.
What was the other?
I kind of want to go to a wide receiver.
I kind of feel like if they're going to trade AJ Brown,
which seems like almost inevitable at this point, like they need a little more juice, right?
I mean, you know what?
I mean, Hollywood and then, you know, Wicks.
I mean, you don't think that, and I go, they suck.
Those guys are ass.
What do we?
Like, Hollywood's just been like nothing for, I mean, he's basically dead at this point
and Wix can't catch the ball.
I mean, he had like two good games his entire career.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't disagree.
You can get open, though.
It doesn't seem like their type of pick.
Just sit back and draft wide receiver four or five.
I don't know.
I mean, how many times are they going to run the ball without AJ Brown?
They were already running the ball a million times.
It's going to be.
That's again, throw offensive, throw offensive linemen.
definitely. Yeah, just lean into it, right?
Just lean into it. Scott, anything else before we wrap up here?
Yeah, I kind of want to hit on the back end of the draft. Look, I talked about it a little bit.
Chase Bessonis is a guy that I've been doing research on, and he keeps popping up in a lot of draft circles towards the back end.
You start talking about the talent here that's in the first round, and some teams aren't necessarily so high on it.
And you start looking at, you know, him playing in the SEC, you know, just the, the reps and what he's put on tape.
And I think he's a safer player that has a lot of outs, whether it's, you know, here at, you know, starting with Pittsburgh and the Chargers all the way down, you know, teams like Houston and some of the other teams on the back.
And I think there's a lot of outs for him to go ahead and be a first round pick.
And then the other player that's getting a lot of run that is actually having to turn down top third.
visits due to scheduling issues is Chris Johnson, the cornerback out of San Diego State.
We talked about Kansas City not taking a cornerback there at that first pick because
Ruben Bain was there.
I think Chris Johnson is a guy that is going to be fully in play for teams like Kansas City
and Miami there on the back end in the late part of his draft.
And you start to look at it.
And other than him, you know, not playing in a Power 5 conference, I think he's a player
that you see fall in.
and then you start to look at Terrell, the cornerback out of Clemson,
whether he got injured or just ran a flat out slow 40 time,
I think he's clearly out of the first round now.
And so a guy like Chris Johnson is another guy that I like going in the first round here on the back end.
So clearly out of the first round you mentioned,
can I interest you in laying some juice here, Scott?
So we got ACC players under six and a half.
In order to get seven ACC players,
you need just like some insane basically stuff that happen here.
This is we're looking at all basically all the ACC players are rumored.
We need Bain, Francis, Blake Miller,
Akeem Messador, T.J. Parker, Terrell, and Peter Woods.
All of those guys have to go for you to lose.
I mean, it's up to like minus 400 at this point,
but like at least one of these guys is not going to go.
And the other guy that you just mentioned is Peter Woods.
I don't find a good fit there for him, you know, within around it.
There's some concerns about his hot and cold play and whether or not, you know,
if he can't turn it up consistently within the college ranks,
is he going to be able to do that, you know, as a first round pick in the NFL?
So he's another player that I kind of have firmly on that edge of being right outside the first round.
And it's a lot of it to do towards team pick.
I think when you start looking at the visits, I think teams are much higher on McDonald's,
as, you know, even though he's a little bit more of a big run stuffer,
but as far as a defensive tackle,
I think that you can see Woods maybe fall out and McDonald, you know,
be squarely in the first round.
Yeah, I would think he'd be the first defensive tackle.
I think the other juice spot to lay Connor is just offensive lineman, right?
Yeah, over.
The defensive tackles are sliding down, right?
Banks has fallen out.
We're not sure of McDonald is.
We've talked about Woods.
All that is, he's just like, you know, all the tackles and like some of these guards
that could slide in.
Like, I can think you can very easily see nine offensive linemen.
And right now you could, like, lay minus 185 over seven and a half offensive lineman.
Right.
If we get like, you know, some of the guards, right?
If we get like, Rutledge.
Yeah, Rutledge, that's nine guys all of a sudden, right?
If Blake Miller goes to and all those guys, like, that's actually probably a decent lay the juice spot right now is over seven and a half offensive linemen.
What juice are you saying on seven and a half?
Like 185, 190.
I've seen it.
Because, I mean, you're basically betting on.
You need two of Max, Bessontes, and Lumo to go.
Max is 100% going in the first rounds.
I mean, I don't think he's going to get to New England.
And I think a lot of people thought he was going to get to New England.
And a lot of, there's a lot of connections right now with him towards Philadelphia.
Philly, Pittsburgh could take him.
I would not be surprised if that's an out for him too.
And then, you know, add in Bessonis, add in Rutledge as possible, safe choices there on the back end.
I just think it's it's an easy over.
I think you're hitting it by two picks.
Yep, I agree.
Love that.
That's great.
Yeah,
some of these,
like,
kind of as the back starts to clear up a little bit more,
I think there's like some big value on some of these guys where as long as you can boil it down to like a X of whatever, you know, you're getting.
Like we just did here with all of its alignment and for ACC, like there's some insane value.
And we've talked about it every year on the draft.
Like, it's not just, oh, you're betting a normal minus 400.
It's like they're either picking them or there's not.
there's no luck involved it's just is what it is so like it's not going to happen so um all right
this is good i mean we got through the 20 picks and talked about some bets in an hour you know and
probably you go for another hour honestly you know we'll be back by maybe we go a little longer
i think we go longer on friday what do you think like hour and a half yeah it's not going to be
nice here so we can't golf anyway so there's no reason to get out let's go and talk football for a bit
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and I randomly commandeered this.
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Appreciate you know,
appreciate you guys all joining and listening.
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