Move The Line - 2026 NFL Mock Draft & Combine News!

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

Dive into an NFL Mock Draft to find out where your favorite 2026 rookies could be heading during the NFL Draft. Find out where players like Jeremiyah Love, Jordyn Tyson, Fernando Mendoza, Carnell Tate, Kenyon Sadiq, and more are heading in this early look of the NFL Draft. Also tune in for some early NFL Combine news and how that could change the NFL landscape in 2026! Subscribe to 4for4's Betting Package 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/plans Sign-up on FanDuel Today 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/go/fanduel   Follow 4for4 on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4football Follow 4for4 Bets on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4bets Follow Move the Line on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/MoveTheLineNFL   Follow Connor on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/ConnorAllenNFL Follow Ryan on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/RyNoonan Follow Scott on X 👉🏼 https://x.com/ScottSmithFF   Visit our Website 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/ Join our Discord 👉🏼 http://discord.gg/4for4 Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3OupraJ 4for4 Betting Strategy Hub 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3hm39cw 4for4 Betting Picks 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3LUp0Ea NFL Betting Odds & Predictions 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3nsW9QU Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to move of line draft season. Ryan Noonan joined here as always. My friend's Connor Allen and Scott Smith back to take care of us for draft season. Connor, what's going on with you, buddy? Yeah, excited to dig in more. This is always one of my favorite running series that we do here. Just talk about the draft, talk about the different players here. And I mean, we can get into it soon.

But there's, I think, top of the board here, really up in the air. a lot of different positions in need, a lot of different players, maybe another running back going in the top five. So lots of fun stuff going on. Scott, we love you in season. We just don't get to talk to you in season very much. But off season, this is our time to shine, buddy. What's going on with you?

Good, man, happy and healthy, living a good life. Family is happy, healthy. Happy to see you guys. I got to see Connor down here in New Orleans a few months ago. We didn't do so hot at the roulette table, but we had a good time. Love that. Scott out grinding the MMA streets for us in the betting side, four for four bets.

Just making new tools, picking winners, printing there to so for four for four bet subs. You're not missing Scott. You're getting him all the time. So follow Scott on Twitter at Scott Smith FF. Just pumped out his first mock draft of the season. Typically goes first out of the trio of us here. This is a very, I think, interesting needle to thread.

this like pre-free agency. Look at that. We're back. Oh, man. This is great. I'm right here. Can you hear me? No.

You're good. You're good. No. It was just like a small little freeze. It was great. If you were hanging over this draft season, I don't know what my, you know,

sometimes internet's in March and April. Don't do as well for me as they do it other times of the season. But, you know, here we are. So, but anyway, tough needle of the threat I was saying in terms of like post combine. pre-free agency gets a little bit tricky, but Scott took the first swing at the mock draft,

and we'll go through a little bit of that today. But, you know, I want to talk just some news. Just before we came on, we had DJ Moore trade. Bears moved DJ Moore to the Bills, who seemed to have an affinity for six-foot wide receivers. But they needed to make an addition, and DJ Moore, I think, was a good one. Still 29 years old.

Contract's not great, but again, like at this point, you kind of need to take some swings with Josh Allen. Connor, any thoughts on DJ Moore? the trade of the bills or maybe even your thoughts on how it impacts what the bills would do here in the first round yeah i think with dj more being traded it made all the sense in the world i think it was like it felt like an inevitability they clearly like luther burton more they clearly wanted uh you know have rome be kind of their ex guy introduced loveland even more than he already was and so you had dj more just like not doing a whole lot body language still sucked complaining and then to cap it all the end of the

season doesn't round off his route doesn't go through his route the entire way isn't sprinting the entire time And the season ends because him and Caleb were not on the same page and he didn't give full effort on a play that he should have at least bare minimum broken up like 100%. And so that was tough. And so I think it felt like an inevitability plus the salary gap there. Whereas the bills, I think he's great fit for the bills. He's, I would say, you know, Stefan Diggs light in a sense when Stefan Diggs kind of came in and was able to change, you know, Josh Allen's trajectory there. He can play more on the outside than a guy like Khalil Shakir, who they there said like a couple weeks ago, like yeah, Khalil can play anywhere. Their actions aren't saying that. Like they'd never play anywhere else

outside of the slot. So I think him, Shakir, Kincade, if healthy, could be a pretty formidable group. And I think give the bills the best chance offensively that they've had in a while to make a deep run. Scott, we now have two trades since you published your mock draft. We had the Chiefs Ram's trade yesterday shortly after you went live. And now we have this this Bill's trade here as well. Any thoughts on addition to what Connor had to say? Yeah, I don't know that the trade for DJ Moore makes a huge difference for the bills. You know, I still think they still need wide receiver help. Before the trade, I had mocked them, KC Concepcion from Texas A&M.

I just feel like they keep trying to put a Band-Aid on it. And the way the defense kind of took a step back last year, I think they still need some defensive help as well. So maybe this just gives them a little bit more versatility as far as which round they're going to look to go ahead and address the wide receiver spot. But I think it's a good move for them. And then, you know, the Chargers and, I mean, excuse me, the Rams and the Chiefs just decided that they waited specifically, like five minutes after I released my mock to go ahead and release their trade. So I give a big screw you to those guys up in the front office.

Yeah. This time of here is a little bit tricky. Like I said, we just, you know, some of these team needs shift pretty drastically a week from today, right? And you start to see, you know, free agency popping, I believe it's Monday or Tuesday. I can change some stuff for sure. Scott got caught there too.

But yeah, I want to talk just get you guys' thoughts because there are a few things that are pretty interesting to me in terms of laying out this mock draft. And I feel like this happens every year where you get to this spot where it's like, oh, next year's draft class is just so good. It's just like every year next year is better.

People want to talk about this being a weaker draft class. I think it's actually not, I don't think it's that weak necessarily. I think it's maybe flat where like the teardrop is, you know, is I think a little bit drastic. I think it's, you know, pretty flat early. But then there's also the situation where the handful of prospects that play non-premium positions, right, running back, safety linebacker,

off-ball linebacker that are consensus big boards, top 10 picks. We don't see that every year. maybe you'll get one or two mixed in. Like we, you know, last year we had like a, you know, Ashton Genti mixed in. We haven't had like a top safety prospect like Caleb Downs in quite a long time. We have multiple hybrid slash off ball linebackers that have a viable case in the top 10. Without, you know, we're going to release Scott and show it here in a moment.

But Scott, talk to me about how you kind of navigated that process going through the mock and anything around the premium position piece because I think it's really challenging. Well, the clear issue we have. have from a landscape aspect of this draft is we only have one quarterback and you know where he's going. Ty Simpson seems to be the second quarterback that's going to come off the board, but, you know, that range is anywhere from 16 to 32 to even out of the first round. So normally those free spaces we get where we can kind of clearly dictate and delineate that quarterbacks are going to go to specific teams. We don't have that aspect this year. And so what ends up

kind of filling in those positions within the top 10 are these freak athletes that tested well at the combine and have good tape to go along with it talking about sunny styles arval ruse you know those guys and then you've got some other people like you know if we just look at ruben bane he's got some issues as far as like his arm link that you're going to go and hit him on but then you look at the tape and you know the guys getting in there and creating a lot of pressure so you have those issues that are going to dictate where the landscape and where kind of players kind of fall but there's going to be a lot a variance and you have less predictability because you don't have the quarterbacks taking up those faces that they normally would. Yeah, Connor, I think there's a lot of different ways.

I mean, look, obviously the teams that are picking the top 10 are picking there for a reason. They have a multitude of needs specifically at premium positions. That's not unique. That's the nature of it. But it feels even more so maybe it's Scott's point where we don't have the extra quarterbacks to buoy the top 10. But it feels like even more so there's a lot of unknown because you look at, you know, you start to get to number two with the Jets. You know, Cardinals, Titans, those teams have multiple needs of premium positions. What are your thoughts here on this kind of debate and topic? Yeah, I mean, I think maybe honestly the best way to get into it is just kind of at this point, like if we're going to number two,

might as well as pop Scott's mock up here, I think at this point. Yeah, because it'll kind of help lead some of the conversation here. So, yeah, he had Mendoza one. I don't really think we need to spend much time on it. I was, so I was showing Scott before the show that, like, Some prediction markets have like Mendoza at 97 cents. You know, so you can buy there if you want to, I don't know, you think that'll outperform whatever stocks you're investing in.

I think that's pretty safe investment, to be honest. And then same with the Raiders to make the first oral pick is only 93 cents. So I don't know. If you're into that kind of stuff, like a crazy amount of juice, I'm sure that it's not the worst investment in the world. That's not something that I don't think any of us typically get involved in. But then number two, I think things get really interesting with Arvel Reese and David. Bailey for my understanding they are interested in both of them and right now that you know reese seems

to be the consensus kind of guy at this point and is starting to form there but or i guess also too like i think uh you know they changed defensive coordinators this year and he's like a much he's like a really good scheme fit i think hayden winks was talking about that a couple other people were tweeting about it too so um that makes a lot of sense and so yeah i think right now my lean would be reese as well yeah it's a tricky one we had you know uh similar process prospect last year with Jaylen Walker out of Georgia, who is a hybrid played mostly off ball linebacker in college. And now we want to project him to, you know, an edge where he's just kind of a bet on talent. And Reese has spoken that, you know, he wants to play edge to where he's

focused on. But this is a little tricky to me at number two. And it's a pretty heavy investment for a guy that doesn't have the tape. of a Ruben Bain or the reps and tape of a David Bailey at the position. So why did we go with Reese here? Scott, any thoughts on Reese and what you think here with the Jets? I think Reese, when you go ahead and compare him to David Bailey and you compare him to a Ruben Bain, I just think he has a more versatile skill set to play sideline to go ahead and make that, you know, that edge and rush from there.

I think the other issue you run into is like if you look at his testing compared to David Bailey and Ruben Bain, he tested well, you know, also. And I think people will just look at Arvell Reese and think that he has the highest upside of those three. David Bailey, knock on him is kind of that he needs to develop some more pass rush moves rather than just his explosiveness. And in Bain, you have issues with, you know, the arm length like we discussed. But when you talk about it as far as like testing and everything, I think he just, had the best testing metrics. You know, you can knock him a little bit on some of his tape, but not much. I mean, he's a good player.

And like you said, if quarterbacks or the needs were different at the top here, if there was a quarterback worthy going to, like the Jets would go ahead and be taking them. But the other thing I think you look at with the Jets here is they have that other pick there at 16. And I think when you look at the cliff of where the edge rushers start falling off, I think that's going to dictate for them to go ahead and take an edge rusher here at two and then address some other things, maybe offense, wide receiver, or something like that there with that second pick. So I think when we start talking about positional value within the

draft, I think Edge just makes the most sense. And I think Reese is a little bit cleaner prospect than the other two. And I think he's a better fit for what they're moving to. Totally fair. I think they, without a doubt, go edge here. I'm moving from Germain Johnson, that trade they made a couple of weeks ago. Definitely spells that there too. I mean, it's a bad roster. They need it. They need, they need, help pretty much everywhere in the 16 pick is going to help. That's the Colts pick there, too. You have David Bailey three, Ruben Bade 4, so just kind of a cluster there of the top edge rushers. Anything you want to expand on there before we kind of keep it moving.

Well, I think here at 3 and 4, I think the player that's going to get a lot of note and come in is that, you know, at the combine, you started hearing a lot about Jeremiah Love. And we talk about positions that aren't really that high of a priority and value within a draft. And running back has traditionally been one of them. But then you start looking at a draft a few years ago when you had both Gibbs and Bijan. And would you rather take a prospect like an edge rusher that maybe has some holes? Or do you take a clean prospect like Jeremiah Love that you can build a complete offense around if you're Arizona or in Tennessee who are two teams that really just don't have. have an identity right now as far as what they're doing. You know, you're trying to go ahead

and build around Cam Ward if you're Tennessee. But I think Jeremiah I love will come into play somewhere with these number three and number four. It's just, you know, I couldn't put them there yet. So, you know, I have the two edge rushers there and David Dale and Rubin Bain. Connor, anything to add there, the Jeremiah, I love stuff or anything with the Cardinals and Titans. Well, so really interesting divergence here from odds right now compared to consensus moks and Scott's mock. So right now at number three, Francis is a Mauroa. Is that how we pronounce his name? Okay. Close enough. Well, okay. So Francis, currently the odds on favor of number three. I mean, plus 350. So it's not like, you know, far from a lock. But if you look at Vegas refund makes an

awesome sheet every year. It's like, you know, consensus mocks tracks all the top mockers. Even if we look at that, right now, number three, David Bailey is 30% drafted there. Then Francis is 22%. Then you have Arvorese 15%. Jeremy I love 11%. Not really reflective of the odds. And right now, if you look on Cali, some of the prediction markets, you can get David Bailey as low as 17 cents, which is equivalence like plus 488 to go number three overall.

So like, I mean, there's not a ton of liquidity there. I'm looking at like 180 bucks. But I mean, that's, you know, not terrible for what you're looking at there. So there's a lot, I think a lot up in the air. If you think that Bailey is a good fit, number three, if you think that there's more there than just like he's the next best talent. Or maybe he is just the next best talent to make sense here too. But five to one or almost five to one,

I don't think it's bad odds for a guy that's literally the most like paired player there right now, according to all the mocks and your mom. Yeah. And the Jeremiah love price would be like $9.50 or so. Yeah, let's see here. Is that what we're number three pick plus $3.80 on drafting. which is wild. And he's actually, yeah, on Kalshi, he's 20 cents.

So he has better odds to go number three than David Bailey. I think that's probably just market inefficiencies, to be honest right now. For sure. It always. The whole thing is right now. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, like, I mean, we've talked about it before.

We're not going to release plays this early at this point. You know, it's super early. There's not much out there that we can really get down on. But I don't know, some of the prediction markets post some of this stuff. Like I think it doesn't hurt to kind of take some sprinkles here and there on on different, different plays like this because it's just like not efficient relative to what like the best mock drafters are putting. Yeah, thousand percent. I feel like that's the game to play if you're getting down early is just trying to get some good plus money equity,

some CLV stuff that can end up, you know, moving a little bit in your favor because it is, I think, a pretty inefficient market for now. The germany I love stuff I think is interesting. I do think there's something to be said for these, you know, situations where you have a new coach, right, and Michael LaFlor coming in from the Rams to be the head coach, but you have a, I have a lame duck general manager situation, right? Like Moni Ahsuport is still there.

And it's going to be really hard to continue to survive if you're not putting out a winner. He's not had a great string of success. So far, he has yet to, he's made 28 picks. He's yet to draft a pro bowler or an all pro. And we know the pro ball threshold is pretty low, right? Like we continue to have like these quarterbacks that make the pro bowl. Justin Fields. Justin Fields got invited to the pro bowl.

So pretty low threshold. And all support is not crossed the bar yet. So I do think he needs a little bit of a home run. And you know, out of Jeremiah love to, maybe we don't know that the quarterback situation is in Arizona. but a Jeremiah love with, you know, Michael Wilson, Marvin Harrison, Tray McBride offense in the NFC West gets a little interesting. Now, again, they probably have to beat teams, you know, 45 to 42 with their defense. But you can see that as a path forward to be like, hey, what's our best shot to win?

My best shot to keep my job is to win in 26. Who gives me the best shot to win? And that would be maybe a running back, which is kind of unique. I like the Ruben Bain selection at 4. I think he's the best edge in my opinion. He again will be a historical outlier based off of his arm length at the position. We just do not have a ton of success of these guys with 31 inch arms shorter. But like Scott, like you said, the tape is fantastic.

And he's not like one of these just fly up the field edges. Like he is fantastic against the run, sets the edge very well, really kind of the full package here. So I also can see a situation where like no GM wants to be like, yeah, I want to put my, you know, plant my flag in the sand to take a historical outlier, which is going to be very easy for people retroactively to point back to and be like, yeah, why did you take this guy? No one's ever been able to be successful before with this kind of like makeup.

But talk to me what you thought about Bain to Ford of the Titans. I just think that's a team that needs some type of identity. And I think he fits with what their head coach wants to go ahead and build. And I think when you start looking at that defense and maybe like slotting him in next to Justin Simmons. And that's something that can start to give your defensive front and identity and start to cause problems where you have to legitimately make a decision as to which one of these guys you're going to double team. And it's going to set the other one up for success one-on-one. And I just think, look, I watch the college playoffs and I like what Rubin-Bain put on tape. I think, you know, regardless of his arm length and, you know, my arms are longer than his.

So, yes, he is going to be an outlier. But I just think he's a well-developed defensive lineman who has multiple ways to get to the quarterback. And those guys are few and far between, those guys go high. And when you have a new coach that's looking to, especially a defensive coach, that's looking to kind of come in and rebuild that team and his identity, I think Ruben Bain makes a little bit more sense than Jeremiah. love at this point in time from the information that we have. Yeah, that's totally fair.

I move to the Giants, but then we can kind of just kind of group these next, I guess, you know, to the top 10 picks if you wanted to get somewhere else, Connor. Scott Mox, Sunny Stiles, number five to the Jets or to the Giants, I'm sorry, off ball linebacker. It's in need. Bobby O'Caricay released, you know, pretty much every other linebacker, offball linebacker on the squad is a free agent as well, which is, I think, notable. This is another situation like Austin Fort in Arizona where we have a new coaching staff,

but a holdover at General Manager, but Joe Shone. Joe Shone has leaned very heavily on premium positions historically, 12 of his top 14 or 12 of 14 top 3 picks have been premium positions per Cleve TAs site, which people definitely need to check out. He's got a lot of great draft stuff and GM trends over there as well as also leaned heavily on Raz prospects, 9 plus, which, Sunny Stiles more than checks the box here. What are your thoughts here on

on Sunny Stiles with a Carnell Tate still on the board? Again, the Giants are terrible. They need to have a ton of needs. They can obviously, Caleb Downs is in play for them. What are your thoughts on the Giants, Connor? Yeah, I mean, at some point, I feel like they got to, got to start like, I don't know, focused on it. Like, you know, obviously they have the multiple, you know,

like the big pick last year was like, what do they do at three? And then obviously they ended up getting Jackson Dart. And then so it ended up, you know, working out, I guess, in a sense. But it felt like now they were just continuously sinking in, like, you know, defensive side, you know, draft capital. Obviously, they did take Malik neighbor somewhat recently as well. But at the same time, I feel like supporting Jackson Dart should be priority number one.

And like building through there. So I know Sonny Stiles just absolutely murdered the combine and that he's probably a good prospect. And technically is a need there. You know, I haven't dug in enough to know exactly what that would be. but I tend to think that they would probably look to support DART first, but we'll see from there. I mean, that's from my understanding. That's why whatever,

Dable got fired, right? It was like he just let him do whatever, got injured, like, you know, and he didn't, I mean, didn't have the surroundings, but the fact that Joe Shane's still there is crazy, but I don't know, it's the world we live in. Yeah. Yeah, did you give consideration to, you know, a Tate or any of the wide receivers if you had a receiver number one?

Obviously, we have the Colonel Tate, you know, hand times first, you know, combine situation, which I love, I love Sheffler for dunking on football talk there. But any thoughts there, Scott, when you were making the mock? Yeah, I actually, I tend to like offensive line actually a little bit more than wide receiver even just because I think the free agency is going to kind of end up filling that wide receiver position for the Giants. I definitely think they do need to go in the direction of building.

building around Jackson Dorton and not allowing him to run so much and get killed. But I think when you start looking at John Harbaugh, and I think he's going to end up trying to mold this team into a little bit something similar to what he had in Baltimore. And so I kind of put Sonny Stiles in that slot because they need linebacker help. They have a fifth and sixth rounder that are scheduled prior to free agency as far as what their lineup looks like. So I think Stiles would immediately slot in as a starter at that linebacker spot. And with what he did at the combine, and specifically, I was really impressed with his tape and specifically his tackling. I think he had like the highest mistackle rate as far as like a 97.5% tackle success rate or whatever, you know, on the season. And, you know, he's a guy that switched position.

So his 24 tape wasn't as good as what he put on tape this year. But then when you start factoring in his ability to go ahead and cover in the, you know, the experience he has as play in a safety, I think that fits in along with his athletic profile to what modern day linebackers that are going to be drafted as higher value deaths. Yeah, I love it. I mean, converted safety, absolute dog can cover. I mean, he deserves to be a top 10 pick. He's some of the go. Go watch his basketball highlights. Oh, I've seen it.

Like him and Henry Ruggs have the best, like basketball. all highlights I've ever seen for a non-prove player. Cooper de Jeanne mixtapes are pretty, pretty solid too. Dunking on these, you know, 5, 10 kids, just, you know, no chance. Yeah, you see, it's electric. So I'm very excited for Sunny Stiles. All right, Monroe Freeling at 6 to the Browns. I love it.

My mocks, my first is done. I'm writing it up. I also had Monroe Freeling to the Browns. It's a little off market. You can look at the, the Vegas refund sheet that Connor is referencing, which everyone should definitely check out and scoop up from VR at Vegas refund on Twitter. You could find that and get that.

Really kind of all over the board. But I think the, I'm assuming this is probably some of your thoughts here as well. Scott, they have two picks, six and 24. Offensive lines atrocious. They did recently trade for Titus Howard from the Texans, who is a right tackle. They have a dire need at left. tackle and all these other offensive linemen for the most part, you know, when you get into the, you know, Mayoa, Ione's a guard, you know, Spencer Fano, these are all right tackle prospects,

whereas Freeling played left tackle at Georgia is a monster of a human being, 10 Raz, I think he had the second or third largest arms, you know, arm length and biggest, it's kind of like 11-inch hands. It's like just wapping people. is yeah, he's, I think he's trending, trending, trending. And I think this is pretty interesting and like seeing it there too, Scott. So Connor, any thoughts on what the Browns do or Freeling in particular? Yeah, we're looking at, I mean, 78% right there.

It's the third highest on the sheet, basically, for like of the Browns drafting and opposition, offensive line. So, I mean, it seems pretty consensus. I think the only thing that is a little off market would be Freeling over Francis at this point. Scott, any like reasoning behind that or he's not in Francis or you just, you know, like what's the kind of what's the thought process there? So the early, the early rumors and things that started coming out of the combine is, you know, when you start looking at the two other tackle prospects, you know, as far as Muigua, or I can't even pronounce his damn name,

but he's more of a, he's more of a right tackle. They have him slotted in as a right tackle. And then when you start talking about Spencer, Spencer Fano, he, his arms measured small, short. They're talking about possibly moving him in to a guard and him being a guard prospect. And so a lot of the rumors and information that I was getting out of the combine was that when you took, you look at like Monroe Freeling, how he tested his measurables and then go throw on his tape. And look, you can go, you can go on X or Twitter and you'll find some highlights. I mean, he's got good tape. He comes from, you know, SEC school.

He's played against top level competition. So I think when it's all said and done and one of the early bets that I would like once the market opens up is to see where Freeling comes on the board as far as being the first tackle taken is something that I would look at. And I just think he's going to continue rising throughout this interview and this pre-draft process. And I just think the measurables are off the chart. And I think many he scouts and many. GMs from what I understand and from what I've heard think that he has the highest ceiling of any of the tackle prospects here to go in the first round. It's one of my favorite looks early too when we get, you know, first offensive lineman, um, Freeling will be a dog.

Um, I think it's a pretty interesting. Like I think, yeah, I don't, I think the left tackle, right tackle thing is, is a thing for sure, considering the Howard move. Um, and again, they could, they could go wide receiver here too. I think that's definitely something they need to address. but like if they do want to go offensive linemen, you might as well take that pick first, get your guy.

And I think you'll probably still have, you know, one or two of the, you know, top-ish wide receiver still available when you get around to pick 24. So Caleb down seven to the commanders. Again, unbelievable talent. Tape is insane, non-premian position.

Safety, very important in Dan Quinn's defense. He loves to bring that, you know, strong safety into the box. He loves to blitz from the second level, linebacker safety. So Downs makes a ton of sense. I have Sonny Stiles there because it's another, I think, a perfect fit if Stiles were still to be on the board. But I think those are two great picks. But Scott, I know we talked, you're a commanders fan.

You can see them probably going a number of ways. You know, they could definitely address wide receiver, offensive line, then go anyway. I could see seven different players going to the commanders here. And it's all dependent upon how the board falls. If David Bailey slipped down to seven, he could be the pick. sunny styles would be my personal preference of who I'd like them to get. But then you've got other people to think that you need to take some pressure off Jaden Daniels and get more premium talent around them.

And that could be Jeremiah Love. So I think all of these players, like add in Cornell Tate as a wide receiver because they're thinking that this may be Terry McLarence last year in Washington. So I think the roster is a lot more talent devoid than what many people realize. And I think that showed a lot this year when they had some injuries and stuff. happen. So I think they could go a number of different directions, specifically when it comes to kale downs. He had some medical things popped up. I think he has a partially torn meniscus. My understanding is that that's not going to, the injuries won't push him down the draft board

much from what I think five or so GM said. And it more comes down to a premium position issue. Safety's not usually a huge position. It's going to make a big difference on your defense. but what comes out of the combine and interviews as far as Caleb Downs is that he's super prepared. He's a very smart player and he's a player you put in the back end of your defense and let him go ahead and call the defense from there because of the way he views and has the instincts to go ahead and break down offenses and the plays that are coming his way. So I kind of feel like Caleb Downs is almost a safe pick for a team that needs a lot of help on defense and it's going to have a lot of turnover.

Now, with that being said, Washington's a team. you definitely have to pay attention to in offseason because I think they have the third most cap value. So they're going to be very active in free agency. And their team, their draft process and who, who's going to be selected there is definitely going to be molded by positions that are getting filled during free agency. Yeah, a ton of cap space. Cardinal Tate eight, Connor, to the Saints first team off the board.

you know again referenced earlier the hand time controversy but tate i think could you know start coming off the board anywhere from you know pick five on uh any thoughts on tate to the saints who obviously have a you know it's not pretty behind chrysal lavee um you know they have a lot of needs there too any thoughts on uh or downs i guess if i you know i skipped your downs thoughts if you want to add the commanders no i mean i guess my question to you guys do you guys think that Carnal Tate is significantly better than like kind of that it's seemingly next year right now looking at like Mikhail Lemon, Jordan Tyson, Denzel Boston, like, I mean, that group like, I mean, he's he's pretty consensusly mocked in the top 10 right now.

We're looking at a range of like, but I don't even know, eight to 14ish. I mean, five, actually I've seen him as high as five. It depends on the mock. So like pretty high. Like, I mean, he's going to go very high. Like, do you think that he's worth that? Like, is you thinking he's significantly better? or is it just like the Saints need a wide receiver

and so everyone just mocking him there basically at this point? Personally, I think those first three are pretty interchangeable depending on team needs with Carnell Tate's, McCaill Lemon and Jordan Tyson. But we'll see through the process it seemed like in the last month or so, Scott, that Tate kind of moved to being more of the consensus and then the combine, you know, wasn't great for him depending on, you know, again, didn't fill out, you didn't do all of the work and stuff like that.

But do you have a thought? Well, I think as far as like Jordan Tyson for a long time, he was kind of like thought to be like the top wide receiver coming out of here. But he's got some injury concerns as far as his career progresses and goes on down the line. Mackay Lemon had a very strange interview process throughout the combine that a lot of people were kind of poking holes through and just the demeanor. Some people even are going as far as to theorize that he's tanking his, his graphic stock on purpose with some of the stuff that he was saying. So those would kind of be like your top three guys. And I think when it comes down to it, I think Carnell takes just the cleanest prospect as far as those three wide receivers.

Lemon's going to have to fit very specifically in that slot role. I think for what the Saints are looking to do, I think they need a bigger receiver opposite of Ovalave in that room. I think you look at Ohio State and they've traditionally pumped out really good wide receivers that have transitioned well to the NFL. and then, you know, trying to put players and talent around Tyler Shug to make him as successful as possible in his sophomore campaign makes a lot of sense to me. The other position for the Saints that I think they would be interested in is if one of these edge rushers or Ruben Vane or Dave and Bailey, you know, somebody like that were to drop down. Jeremiah loves the other person that the other player that kind of gets mocked to them there at 8.

And I just don't see the Saints in their front office. traditionally they have not gone and valued running back in the first round. I think that's more of a third and fourth round play for them. And I just don't see love being to play there for them at eight. Fascinating tell is, again, Cleve-T-A. The Saints have not met with their first-round pick in the last 12 years. So they meet with somebody that's a top 10, top 15 type prospect. cross them off the list, smoke screen, it seems like.

And again, like, I would say small sample, if you were to just say that's a couple years randomly, but it's been over a decade since they met with the guy that they took in the first round. Seems like there's some sort of strategy there that they, like, don't want to like, met ever? Or like, like, like, because like Scott tracks, like there's like five different kinds of meeting.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So meet at the combine, have them in for, host them in for a visit. I'm not quite sure. I'm assuming it's probably the official visits. Yeah. it'd be really weird if they had never talked to the guy that they end up taking and investing in what in terms of their their team now it would it would in the cap situation for sure but yeah it seems

I would assume that that's uh I can check on that but I would assume that's probably one of the official visit list situations so that's interesting yeah because I wonder if there's like some level of like oh they did a combine visit or something but they didn't do an official visit and then they can narrow the list even further you know something something like that yeah moving cross-reference after the show but yeah I don't know that's Saints are in an interesting spot. The Tate stuff just stood out to me. It's like clear number one.

And that's not how I envisioned this. I kind of thought he was more into the regular tier. And also, I know I'm skipping here to the end, but I love Casey Conception. I think the guy is just really good at football. So like, I don't know, being kind of like a back end first round pick would not be surprised to see him go higher.

But I don't know, you know, I don't know much about like the, and I guess like intangibles and any of the visits and any of that stuff yet. Yeah. Yeah, without a doubt, a first round. I think you do see all five of these, you know, receivers go in and name definitely some other people that like some of the other guys. They're in kind of the next group, but we'll see.

I think there's a handful of team needs, too, that kind of, you know, marry well at the back end receiver-wise when you get into the Browns, you know, like Scott says, still thinks that, you know, Buffalo is still in play. San Francisco's wide receiver room is tough. You know, you could see the Patriots looking to do something there. So I think there's a ton of needs. Nine with Kansas City. we're not used to see in Kansas City with a top 10 pick. I think they do have a variety of needs. Math a little bit different now.

We have them at pick 29 as well. Whereas you could see them looking to address filling in for Trent McDuffie. Scott, I don't know if that would change what you would have done here. If this would have been made before the fact, Jeremy Love feels like, again, a gift to put him with Patrick Mahomes, maybe a position of luxury. I feel like the Rishi Rice stuff kind of forces their hand too, because that continues to be a problem.

Talk to me about what your thoughts were with Love in Kansas City. I just think Kansas City has struck out at running back over the last few years. You know, years ago they drafted Clyde Edwards Hilar. That didn't work out. They drafted him over Jonathan Taylor. Imagine if Jonathan Taylor was on that roster. So I think when you start looking at some of the stuff, and especially the issues that Patrick Mahomes has kind of had,

a little bit. I think the two positions that really stick out for me is would they go ahead and go best player available if Jeremiah Love is high on their board and available here? And that's kind of the route I went. But I think they're also going to be looking to go ahead and put something else on that defensive line. So if you have one of these edge rushers, go ahead and drop down, I think that would make a lot of sense. And then, you know, since they're getting that 29th pick from from the Rams, almost in my mock draft, I still think, you know, Terrell would be in play for them there. He's a really good cornerback out of Clemson. He's got the lineage with his brother playing well for Atlanta.

And I think he would still make a lot of sense with their scheme and the way they run things. So you could almost just go ahead and flip that logo to a Chiefs logo at 29 and still have a viable pick there for him. Couldn't agree more. Yeah, I like him there. He would be a great fit for them on the outside. And willing tackler, I think they do ask their corners to be pretty heavily involved in the run game. They play a decent amount of man.

So a player like Terrell would make a ton of sense. Conardy thoughts on Love or Kansas City or what you expect to see there. Yeah, do you guys think that almost like the Clyde de Rue Taler stuff may actually like persuade them otherwise against going with an early running back? Like, I mean, from all accounts, Clouded Root-Roehler was like handpicked by Mahomes and, you know, that group to be like their guy because they obviously did, they did pick him over Taylor and I think a couple of it was Nick Chubb. Someone else was in that group too.

There was like two or three guys that went in that second round range. And then they got burned by it. And it was a luxury pick at the time. Remember, they were set up really well. Defense is playing well. Oline was great. And they're like, what do we need? We just need a running back to pick him.

I don't know. I guess like maybe there's two ways to look at it. It's like where you mentioned Scott, like they need to get the position right versus like we just picked a guy, you know, first round and like it sucked. So we'll just figure it out. But their running backs have just been absolutely dust balls for like three, two. I mean, forever basically at this point.

And so I don't know. O-line, I think, could make sense for, in my opinion, for them. Or corner, I think probably makes a lot of sense after, after, you know, the current trade. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't think love, I don't think he makes it to nine. So I think of the sense I'm being a moot point eventually. Ooh. Where do you think you go?

I know we, you know, it's. I mean, I think he, I think three, four, seven, like Arizona, Tennessee, Washington. I think those are all really interesting outs for him. I kind of agree with Scott on the. New Orleans thing, but I think New Orleans is also an out for him. I hate to bounce around here, but I just remembered another note from the commanders. Like they, at the combine, they talked about, like the GM talked about how they need like a playmaker basically and like they're going to drafts playmaker and like they want it some like

explosive, like someone explosive. Now, you know, I think the obvious pair there points more to Jeremiah Love than I guess anyone else on the board at this point. Maybe that's a defensive playmaker. Maybe it's, you know, Sonny Stiles. They consider that to be playmaker. I think only Noonan and, you know, other defensive-minded individuals would point to a guy like Stiles versus someone like love. But I don't know.

I thought that was an interesting note. Yeah, I got IDP only basketball draft and sunny styles won't right before my last pick. I was very, very frustrated. What are you going to do? Snipe done sunny styles. Very much looking for some sunny styles in the portfolio this offseason for sure. So, yeah, I mean, look, unlocking, again, certainly back. unlocking a quarterback, a dynamic rushing quarterback with a dynamic running back would really pop for the commanders,

what Jane Daniels can do there if there's a real threat for what those RPO's look like or lots of different stuff. So that would be, that'd be exciting. Yeah, I think when you look at the depth of wide receiver, questions about what Travis Kelsey is doing moving forward, where he is in his career, feel like all of a sudden wide receiver is actually like a position of need. for that team. So yeah, I have a hard time seeing them pass. And I think same thing like Scott said, if Rubin Bain or someone fell, that would also be something they'd have to take a long, hard look at. Board shakes out pretty poorly here for the Bengals who I think are desperate for defensive line help and edge rushers specifically, even if they didn't completely fumble the bag

with Trey Hendrickson and he was still going to be on the team, they would still desperately need edge help. They did manage to fumble that bag and he's going to be gone. So they would, think what they would love an edge here, but again, taking the top corner is also a need as well. And obviously, I think offensive line, but, you know, Mansour Delane had a really, really nice season at LSU. That's pretty good tape before he transferred there as well. But I think he is a terrific prospect and probably the cleanest of the corner prospects there, Scott.

I think you would probably agree having him there ahead of McCoy at 12. Yeah, I just think that especially being a homer here at LSU. I just think he's the cleanest prospect for a team that has a lot of needs on defense. The other thing that I really considered here is at some point in time, they have to get the damn offensive line right and do that. But the defense is just so, the defense is on the struggle bus. And they need to go ahead and add some talent. But those are kind of like my two thought processes earlier on in this process with the Bengals

and some of the teams here that have a lot of holes. Yeah. We got some news here about two things here. The Saints and Cameron, Jordan, are not going to be, he was not going to be the Saints. He's going to be a free agent. And the Bears got a second round pick for DJ Moore from the bills. Jesus Christ, I'd trade them too. Second round picking that contract for the bills for, I mean, it's, again, some funny money at the back end.

But like, it's a good job by the Bears. Yeah, good job by the Bears. Ryan Poles just continuously gets handed like these crazy deals. be just an insane negotiator and we just don't know it or like is you know good at picking his mark but i mean he has just been fleecing guys and making all the wrong decisions otherwise it feels like and now is somehow in an insane team and has a great coach and quarterback it's wild i think you really have to start to question brandon being as far as the gym i think this is like his last year he has not had good draft results um you know over the last however many years you're talking about

Monty Austin for it, not drafting pro bowlers are all pros. And I think you can put Bean right there in that situation. And outside of having Josh Allen at quarterback, it's not been a good run. Yeah, it's not been great. That's a good job by the Bears. You know, they have some needs too, right? I mean, you know, kind of surprising retirement. You don't think you had to do anything along the offensive line.

You know, you know, or maybe needed to do something along the offensive line with some late season injuries. and then, yeah, good position for the Bears. I mean, I think they're going to get Max Crosby, to be honest. I think it makes too much sense. I thought that the D.J. Moore could be a part of that deal. I think Tremaine Edmonds can be a part of that deal. Apparently the Raiders, they have a need at offball linebacker and still a young player. And Max Crosby on the other side of Montes Sweat would be pretty interesting.

Yeah, all right, cool. Good for them. All right, we got about seven, eight minutes left. We've got a hard stop here. So we can kind of bounce around. Scott will give you the floor. There's any other team picks that you love, any other guys, maybe some guys that fell further for you going through the process based off the team needs, kind of take us anywhere you

want it. We'll bounce around here a little bit. Well, I think the first team that I kind of want to talk about is the Cowboys. They have needs in Longnet Secondary. They also have two picks. You talk about Max Crosby and what the Raiders might want. I think the Cowboys could make a lot of sense, especially where Jerry Jones, in a way he likes to make splashes last year.

You know, he went ahead and lost his prize defensive player. And I think Prosby is a guy that a lot of teams are going to go ahead and look to, but I think the Raiders want something heavy. So teams that have multiple draft picks there in the first round could make a lot of sense, you know, Cowboys being won. Another player that I think is interesting from both the fantasy football and real football standpoint is Kenyon Sadeek. the tight end. I think he's got a wide range. I've seen him mocked all the way up to

nine with Kansas City. I think he's a good fit for Carolina there at 19 if he is to go ahead and make it down to there because that's a young team trying to build, you know, around a quarterback. You know, they struck gold last year with Tech McMillan, add another piece. But the only issue I have with them, as much of a good fit, I think it is, the rumors coming out at a combine is they're going to be very defensive oriented in a draft. So Sadiq's a player that you could see move here in my mock drafts as things change. And then the other player, I think that you really have to start to pay attention to is Ty Simpson, because he's going to be the second quarterback.

You know, we don't know what's going to happen with Pittsburgh. They're in kind of quarterback limbo. Ty Simpson could be in play 24, I've heard, to Cleveland, depending upon what they want to do. So he's a player that could be all over the board. I actually kind of thought about having him at 29 with the Rams, maybe, you know, with two first round draft picks going ahead and maybe having a Matt Stafford replacement. But ultimately, I think he ends up going a little bit closer in that 16 to kind of 20, 21 range. So that's kind of where I had some, you know, issues kind of slotting him in. Other than that, the real issue for me has been slotting these defensive tackles in.

I need to do a bit more research as far as defensive fronts and fits is how they're going to slot into certain schemes with some of these teams. And then look, it's early on in the process. So you're going to still see a lot of free agent moves end up starting to dictate how these boards fall. And things will start to get a little bit tighter as far as player to team fits. Yeah. I want to ask you about that too because I know you had mentioned the struggle there. And again, interior defensive line is pretty weak and top heavy in the draft.

there's a handful of guys here. You have Peter Woods and Caleb Banks, who I think are both undoubtedly first round picks going here. The rest of the draft class is a couple of guys behind it, but it falls off pretty quickly. And it is a horrendous position in the free agent market. So if you are in need of an interior defensive lineman that's impactful, other than just someone eating snaps,

I think that pushes some of these guys up the board a little bit specifically. So again, those are a little bit tricky. Tyne Simpson is interesting. Like, I'm not going to sit here, pretend I'm a quarterback whisperer. I thought he's pretty good. I think there's arm strength. I think there's athleticism. But it's the back end of the year wasn't terrific.

So he could be all over the map and would not be surprised to see him outside the first round. But, you know, Pittsburgh makes some sense there too. Connor, any thoughts that you have here on kind of the back end or any particular team position, anything you want to talk about? Ty Simpson feels like exactly the kind of guy who's going to get pushed up somewhere and some, all it takes is one team to fall in love with them i mean just a couple years ago we were talking about bow nicks in the same regard and michael pennix and you know they went fringe top 10 uh or top 10 for penics this case so all it takes is one of these teams that needs needs a quarterback and there's plenty of them we have the other end though too right we have like the will levis uh malik willis like

these guys are going to be you know last year right uh Sanders right you just have these guys like oh yeah they're undoubtedly going to be pushed up and then you just have a handful like well no they fall off kind of yeah i mean i feel like shudrr is just another case. We just didn't know what we're getting into there with, you know, that now he's just a total nutball. So he's a pro bowler, Connor. He has a awful tape.

Awful. Yeah. Yeah. This is, I mean, as Peter Wood's pick to the Bears would be really nasty, but I'd imagine that pick would not be theirs if they were to make a trade for Max Crosby.

I imagine that pick is involved in the trade. We'll see. I mean, because if he's not, and it's Peter Wood. Montez Sweets, you know, Geron Dexter. That's,

bears get pretty interesting, pretty quickly here if they were able to add it. This also Poles is also another guy that, like, Akim Messador is a guy that I'm fascinated by. He's going to be 25 when the season starts. That's going to cross him off some teams, first round boards instantly,

because some teams aren't going to take a 25-year-old in the first round. But he's also very good. Like, you know, you're watching, you know, Bain and Messador at Miami, it's hard to kind of separate, you know, who's clearly better. You know, Bain's not even, he's like 20 and a half, I think, or, you know, he's a young guy. So you're talking about four or five of your differences why you would see these guys go so differently in the draft.

But Medador is very interesting. I think for a team that's probably ready to win now, plug him in and, you know, get a lot out of his first contract and go from there. So he's a, he's a fascinating one for me, too. So it's going to be interesting, a lot of movement once for agency comes. So sweet this is great. All right. Just getting started. Probably be off next week.

I'll be off next week. Maybe the guys want to, you know, hang out without me, have a guest, whatever. But we're in the swing of the season. Scott, something else you want to say before we wrap?

No, just good to get a feet wet today. Time to lock in. I have to start really locking in and putting together some things. My sister's getting married to Saturday. So after that, I will be all deep in draft content until now until April 23rd or whatever. the official date of the draft is.

Yeah. Head on a swivel season. Again, free agency starts next week. That will 1,000% shape some of these team needs that we're talking about. And, you know, kudos to Scott for, you know, taking a stab at one pre-free agency. I'll have one probably on the site here at 4-4-4 on Friday.

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