Move The Line - 2026 NFL Mock Draft (Live)!

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

Dive into an NFL Mock Draft to find out where your favorite 2026 rookies could be heading during the NFL Draft. Find out where players like Jeremiyah Love, Jordyn Tyson, Fernando Mendoza, Carnell Tate, Kenyon Sadiq, and more are heading in this early look at the NFL Draft.  Subscribe to 4for4's Betting Package 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/plans Sign-up on FanDuel Today 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/go/fanduel   Follow 4for4 on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4football Follow 4for4 Bets on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4bets Follow Move the Line on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/MoveTheLineNFL   Follow Connor on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/ConnorAllenNFL Follow Ryan on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/RyNoonan Follow Scott on X 👉🏼 https://x.com/ScottSmithFF   Visit our Website 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/ Join our Discord 👉🏼 http://discord.gg/4for4 Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3OupraJ 4for4 Betting Strategy Hub 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3hm39cw 4for4 Betting Picks 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3LUp0Ea NFL Betting Odds & Predictions 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3nsW9QU Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to move the line, presented by 4 for 4 bets for some more NFL betting discussion. Joined here as always by my friends calling around. Scott Smith. Scott, what's going on with you today, buddy? Dealing with sick kids running around like a chicken with my head cut off and just trying to, you know, ace this dad stuff. So, you know, it happens every now and then right around the spring, pollen and everything starts coming out and kids get sick. So, well, it's good team up our, you know, obviously cohort here all the time. We're going to talk about his mock draft today. He's also going to have to start to master the dad vibes because he's expecting here pretty soon.

Connor, out, what's going on with you, my friend? Yeah, sooner than later. Last few months of freedom here before I'm in the trenches, but looking forward to it. But yeah, hopefully, you know, I'm going to have a perfect mock draft here. And, you know, nail, we'll nail everything. All the bets are great. And then I can maybe we get a can we get a NCAA update? Oh, from the number one Twitter bracketologist.

Dude, I am I am 99.7th percentile. I mean, so you know the underdog goes that massive contest? I'm in like 60th. If Illinois and Michigan win, I'm going to be like top five, top six in the whole thing. How? No idea. But here we are. The chalk.

Love me some Eastern Europeans on Illinois. Those guys are sick. Like, I mean, it helps when you're 23 and you're, and you're playing against 18-year-olds. I've heard that that's a pretty big advantage. So, yeah, March Madis has been great. I win a big pool. You know, Will Newman, he's like an FSM guy.

I'm in his pool. If Michigan wins, I win his pool. So it'll be good. Do you allow you to submit multiple pools to practice? Just one. No, so it's only one per pool, but I make four, which I know you hate. I know you think is diabolical, but. I don't think it's diabolical.

I just think it's, you know, I think it's fraudulent. I think it was the proper word. What's fraudulent? You make a sheet. You make a bracket. Yeah. This is my bracket. You get to tell the brackets that are doing well.

And we talk nothing about the brackets that have died on the side of the road because you made 15 of them. Well, here we go. So I made four of them. They are all in the 90th percentile better. And there are like 18 quintillion possibilities of brackets. Having even 25 brackets that are all pretty good is a good like, that is a great outcome.

That's a great outcome. So I reject your fraudulent, you know, assertions because it is still very hard to make them good. Yeah, it's like he's never had a mulligan on the golf course. Oh, my God. I've said more than my fair share. I'm not. It's an old, you know, and again, I'm, you know, I'll date myself.

Maybe Scott is familiar with the old Mike and Mike bit, you know, the sheet of integrity back in the day. It was very much a common. Mike and Mike theme every year Whereas, you know, Greenie love to, you know, you had the one sheet and then you'd have goal. You'd be like, yeah, no, I filled out 15 brackets.

And it's like, you know, different national, different, you know, and you just celebrate the one that did well. And it's like, well, you make a bracket. So a little old school there. I get it. So it's fair. I think it's different if you're filling out a direct sheet too. I'm definitely not filling out like an actual sheet.

I used to only do one bracket, 100%. Now in the day and age of I'm just like, like here for the money and the clicks and the engagement. That's kind of where I'm at. So maybe the soul has gone by the wayside. Maybe you're right here. Yeah, it was there to begin with. Still debatable.

We're not sure. Sheet of integrity, Connor. All right, we're going to walk through your mock draft that went up on the site there just a few days back. I want to remind folks to if you've not taken advantage of or checked out Sharpstack at all, we highly recommend that you do so. Give it a facelift, you know, new data feed, new books.

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So your mock draft here, Connor 1.0, pop it up here on the screen for us. Let me get this for us. Not a lot of surprise at one. Renando Mendoza here, if I can bring this up. Yeah, start number two, I guess. We'll go with Arvel Reese, kind of the chalk of where we've been. Any thoughts of doing anything different there? We're seeing him pretty much, you know, 75, 80% consensus of Arvel being there,

number two, anything to expand on there? Or anything you want to start at the top in terms of how you went about building the block. Yeah, not really. I think early on, like the first one, I'm kind of just like locking in most of the chalk, maybe take a couple stands here or there, but trying to understand what the consensus is. And then from there, the future mocks, like understanding, taking bigger stands, like understanding where to iterate. but I do think that Arval Reese, I did lay a little bit more at minus 220 on him to go second.

Maybe that's crazy. I bet a little bit a smidge at minus 120, like, I don't know, a while ago when we were talking about it. Then I had it a little bit more at minus 220. Still not anywhere near like a unit or anything like that. But did bet it a little bit more here. It seems like a really clean fit. Daniel Jeremiah recently also as well was talking about how like they can afford to essentially take a higher upside guy who maybe doesn't have quite as much like, I don't know,

maybe not as much floor, but has some higher upside there. And then Albert Brewer mentioned as well that maybe not getting there QB the future in the draft, but, you know, just looking to build out the roster essentially. So kind of think Reese is a pretty interesting fit here and just seems more and more to be trending that way. It's got anything to add on Reese and where that's going? No, I think Connor hit it, hit the nail on the head and just you start to look at it. They think he's got a little bit more. that he needs to go ahead and develop as far as pass-st moves and things of that nature. But I think you start to look at the Jets in that roster,

and I don't think their coach is going to be long for this team. So I think you just go ahead and take the best player available with most upside. That's Arvel Reese, and he's the one that makes a lot of sense. The only other player that's really being considered heavily here that I've seen in some other mock drafts would be David Bailey. So it's really just which player you think has more upside. And I think, you know, pretty much across the board and across the industry, it's kind of R. Val Reesis is here. And they pick again at 16.

I'm always hesitant at this time of year. We have these, like, they feel very thin consensus building around a player where I don't even know what he is. He's really an offball linebacker. And again, like the way the league is trending, you can do a lot of different things with these types of guys now, right? You can, it's not like you just have to put your hand in the ground and be that type of dude. Yeah, we can see. I mean, there's, you guys just not a, it's a team that needs a little bit of everything. And just to have a lot of questions of like, I don't think he's the best off ball linebacker in the class.

I definitely don't think he's the best edge rusher in class. So those things kind of bounce around in my brain and trying to figure out. Like, it's a lot of projection. And we'll see. We'll see what happens there. It's the Jets. You went with, uh, offensive line. Uh, Francis, man.

you know what at number three for the Cardinals. Any thoughts there? It's been something we've seen a little bit more frequently as of late. You know, Cardinals were kind of a tough spot where it looked like maybe it was a Jeremiah Love team, Connor. It looked like it could be maybe another fallback for whoever, whatever edge. They don't go, it doesn't go at two. What were your thoughts on going offensive line here?

Yeah, I thought a couple good nuggets. One from Cleve, TA's site, Monta Austin, for drafted premium positions of the highest rate among qualified GM, 79% overall in rounds 1 and 2, 100% premium positions and 100% power 5. I believe Francis matches all of those. They need another offensive lineman. I think you would play right tackle in this scenario here probably. And they need to just kind of build the trenches out here.

So I think they made a lot of sense. I personally think they're going to go offense. They could easily go with defense here. No, David Bailey is another popular pick in this scenario. But I'm leaning offensive line right now. Again, it's not said in stone. Yeah. Anything that, Scott? No, I think when you start looking at it,

Maui Goa makes a lot of sense as being just a clean prospect and moving in, you know, to the right tackle. The problem is from a position value standpoint, like, it's not often that you're going to see right tackles drafted this high. Yeah. So, you know, to me, it's really between Mawegoa and then David Bailey here, and it just depends upon, you know, what they want to do. I think Mawego is the cleaner fit,

especially when they don't have a quarterback, you kind of get those pieces in place for when they actually do get a quarterback, and that kind of makes sense to me. Yeah, Bill's the Future. I mean, it's Jacoby Resett and Gardner Minshu, right? They're kind of, we've kind of told us what they're trying to do for this year, right? Seems like everyone's always like, oh, we'll kick the can down the road to quarterback. That next year your quarterback class is great.

We just have that every year. It's like, oh, yeah, just wait until next year's quarterback class. And you get there, you're like, well, these guys didn't pan out. So that's kind of where the Cardinals are positioning themselves. And it makes sense to kind of build from the trenches. Jeremiah Love probably considered maybe the cleanest, best prospect in the class, but he plays a non-premium position, which again, I go back to why this year I think is so tricky because we have these non-premian position players that in just terms of raw, big boards,

are really high up there. But it gets really hard to start sliding these guys in. Connor, you went with Love, fourth to the Titans. It seems to be a brewing consensus. I put in a Discord the other day that, like, you could find on Novig plus 220 or something like that for love to go four. I think that price I took a little bit there. Now on draft Kings, I think you're pulling it up here. He's like plus 120, 130.

I'm not really that interested in that price. Like, they could easily go another direction. You know what I mean? Like Robert Salo could easily decide like, oh, I want more juice. I want more defense. Like, I don't know. Like, that could be very much in his identity as well. now i mean they did sign michael carter i'm assuming getting rid of tony pollard in some sense

you know like that that could be a signal as well but right now i i have a pencil in his love i think that's more likely than not there's also some buzz around reuben bain um but i believe anthony amico talked about just uh he like sent a tweet about like rubin bain measurables and stuff and he would be like a massive outlier for anyone that like sala uh has liked so i kind of of crossed him off the board, to be honest. So I don't know. I'm curious to hear you guys thought so, but I think it's not something about betting. If you can find two to one still, I think a lot of that two to one is a pretty good bet,

anything less than like plus 175, but I'm really all that interested in. Scott, these things I find fascinating, right? We are, we're piecing together very thin things, right? So when I hear, you know, Connor make a point about like players that Robert Sala likes, we don't even, we have no idea. don't know how much like influence robert solas had in draft rooms whether it's been an offensive court you know a defensive coordinator in san francisco or you even as the head coach previously right like he wasn't necessarily you know in charge of draft selections while he was uh with with the jets right he's got

a role in that so um those things get a little bit tricky and i just it could be correct and i just feel like there's a lot of speculation in some of those things so um you just never know i mean Ruben Bain's a baller. He's going to be a statistical outlier anywhere he goes in the first round based off some of his measurables. But I think that's the other thing. When you start talking about Ruben Bain, yes, he's an outlier as far as measurables and armling.

But the other person that was an outlier was Aaron Donald whenever Aaron Donald came out. So whenever you have an outlier, yes, it's going to kind of preclude some teams from drafting them. But like you don't know who's really going to be super high on that guy. The other thing that I'll note when it comes to the Titans drafts in Jeremiah Love, the most recent reports from Adam Schefter and even a few other beat reporters for the teams is that they feel like right now, and Shepter's latest report was that he thinks that both the Titans and the Giants would pass on Jeremiah Love at this point in time if a decision were to be made. So if that's the case, I think that's one of the lines and reports that may be moving the needle on some of the odds right now for Jeremiah Love.

And, you know, some of the beat reporters are thinking that if that were to happen, that love would probably fall to Washington there at seven, that they would be the team to go ahead and take them. Now, look, we're in lion season right now. And, you know, some of these reporters do do the bidding of the GMs and the agents that they're close to that feed them some other information. So you take that with a grain of salt. But I think when I look at Sala, I don't know how much stock I put into any decisions that have been made, you know, whether he was with the judge. or even with the 49ers, but I think when you start looking at Ruben Bain as a prospect, I think you kind of have to look at the tape and what he's done on tape and throw some of the outlier stuff out of the, out of the, just the whole, the whole overall profile.

But I think Bain, if it's not love, I think you're looking at either Bain or Bailey. And I tend to like the overall makeup of Bain a little bit better. I do too. If you watch again, to get a little footbally on you, like Rub Bain's not beating people. people in a way that needs like he's not bull rushing. He's got a lot of dip. He's got a lot of strength. He does play. He played a bunch in the interior of that defensive line as well. You put him next to Jeffrey Simmons for a handful of snaps. You got to make a decision on who to double team. I mean, and they stayed traded for Jeremiah Johnson from the, you know, the Jets.

If you want to tell me that what Roberts Olive values is going to be defensive line trenches, that would be what I would, you know, if we're speculating, I would, I would, I would, I would speculate that versus any GM associations that he's had in his career. And the other thing, the thing that I will say about the two players that were kind of discussing, whether it be Bain or love, you add Jeremiah Johnson, you have Simmons, you add a guy like Bain, now you're building the identity for a team that has none. And, you know, the other side's kind of true of love as well, is kind of given that offense identity, you know, for a young quarterback still trying to find his way.

So I think both players make sense, especially when you have a new coach and a GM that's pretty young, that's trying to, like, build their reputation and build a team that has no identity. It's interesting. I kind of think that certain coaches do have more influence than others. And, like, we don't know the exact dynamics and, like, front offices and whatnot. In my opinion, I would think that Sala would be someone that has a lot of influence. But, again, that's just my opinion. You know, that's, yeah.

I mean, to me, to me, it makes sense. for a guy like Robert Salad. Now, some of the softer spoken guys, maybe not as much. Maybe you have a GM who's been around for decades. Maybe not. Or maybe it comes from, you know, a system that, you know, likes a certain archetype of players. So I think that there is, I think there's a little more merit

than what you guys are giving me credit for, but I understand the sentiment and think that it does, it is a little messy. So it's not quite as clear of a GM's drafting X, you know, head coaches are a little bit messier because they're not the ones making the direct decision. For sure. Yeah.

I think it's appropriate tea leaf reading. It's what we have to do it this time of year. So it's not like completely out of pocket. And it ends up being in a position of need. Yeah, I just, you know, again, it's, it's just like any other tea leaf reading. It could, it could be something. It just wouldn't, it wouldn't,

it wouldn't be something I would make decisions on. The underdog guys had him at four, root head bane at four, which I thought was interesting. He's awesome, dude. Again, anywhere in the first round is it, outlier based on the measurables right like 32 to Seattle you're like oh look at those measurables but like he's a dog so it's so crazy to me it's during my love you can go back through draft history and you have the guys that have didn't put much on tape didn't put a whole

lot of production and those guys will shoot up draft boards during pre-draft you know season and then the guys that have it on tape and just missing one specific trait here we're talking about long arms and everybody wants to send them just tumbling down the first round. So it's one of those things. I think it's going to be interesting because you have a GM who's making his first bit here. So that's it. Yeah.

In short arms, Aidan Hutchins had short arms. Yeah. Trayvon Walker had big long arms. Walker's been okay, but Hutchinson's been the dude. What a mess. Giants Spencer Fanu offensive linemen for Utah. Connor has going fifth. Fascinating, I think the Giants are another one of the very interesting inflection points in the first round.

They have a ton of needs. You have a new positional jockeying situation in terms of, you know, a retained general manager, a new coach who's got a lot of control here. Talk to me about the Fano who pick, Connor. Yeah, I generally think, and I've said it before, that like kind of some of the rumblings surrounding the Giants kind of making some changes. on their staff was not being able to protect Jackson Dart, whether it be play calling, whether it be, you know,

just overall like schematic looks. I think that they try and do that here, add to the offensive line. I'm leaning there right now. Could they pick Sonny Stiles for sure? I mean, that's like he's an awesome player. I think just as I lean today without much other information, I think that they go online. I also think Fano's underrated.

Another guy who's been shooting up that, I mean, was like, I don't remember who was talking about maybe going as high as six was Caden Proctor, who had like an insane pro day essentially. And right now pretty commonly mocked in like 17-ish range to the Lions, but there's some rumblings that he could go even like top 10. So I think there's like, I don't know how you guys feel, but it seems like a lot of these offensive linemen, obviously like some play right tackle. Like Mao goes, right tackle.

But like after that, like I don't, it seems like there's a lot of interchangeability between a lot of these guys here. Yeah, I think a lot of questions about how they project to be, you know, even some guard tackle situation, Scott, the next level. You get some, like Connor said, some right tackle specific guys, Blake Miller late first, another right tackle mostly. There's been some talk about, like, Fanu, I think, made a switch because Lumum was also a teammate from Utah is like left-handed.

So they, like, it wasn't necessarily a performance-based thing. It just was like, the other guy was more comfortable on that side, so they moved Fanu. So who knows? I know Brandon Thorne pretty well-respected offensive line guru thinks Fanu's the best here. I've heard other people talk about, you know, the testing has been great.

So he's definitely trending up here, Scott. Yeah, I think the Giants are in a spot where I don't have a great feel as far as what they're doing because you've got Joe Shane who's not making a decision here. I mean, for all intensive purposes, I think he, like Harbaugh got some assurances when he came in that he's going to be the final. final say. So it's really going to be how Harbaugh wants to put his fingerprints on his team and make this first pick. I think offensive line makes a lot of sense. But at the same time, getting another

receiver across, you know, there would make a lot of sense. And then Sonny Stiles is the defensive player that would also make a lot of sense, but what Harbaugh did there in Baltimore. So I think the Giants could go a number of different ways. As far as offensive line, you know, it's really going to be, you know, who fits the system the most because all of these guys, I think, grade pretty closely. You know, I think some of the guys in a later round, whether it be Proctor or Freeman, I think they have a little bit more upside while Maagoa and Fano here have, you know, a little bit more experience and traits and stuff on their side. So it's going to be interesting.

And to me, I think this is where the draft really kicks off is at pick five for the Giants. And when mock drafts start getting broken, it's going to be at, pick five because you know you just don't have a good feel you know to to be confident as to where the giants are going because they have so many different needs and there's players that just fit here yeah i'm right now i mean i think it starts at two i have no idea i probably rase but like the cardinals of three we just talked about like both sides of the ball multiple positions this is just a really really tricky we spent a lot of time going through the top 10 because it like it leads down to how the rest of the board falls out.

But yeah, it's a tricky, tricky year. The Giants can go a number of ways. I like Connor going a little bit off consensus here with final because it makes sense. They also, like if you,

Connor, you would have put a receiver, you could put Caleb Downs here. And I've been like, yeah, yeah, I get it. Like,

probably not the most pressing need, but like they can go in a bunch of different ways. I think Dane Bruehler actually brought that up on the recent show. Is that like he could go five of the Giants. It wouldn't be that surprising. Yeah. So, Yeah, I mean, they had Tyler Nubin and they have Javon Holland.

Newman was kind of a disappointment there last year. Holland's, you know, I think maybe last year the contract, not like someone you have to be, you know, a staple. But, you know, I also think, you know, Sunny Stiles makes a ton of sense too. They brought in Tremaine Edmonds from the Bears, you know, who's playing behind him is definitely a question mark. And they need to get that answer to. So could go a number of ways. Browns have two picks, six and 24 with their first selection. You gave them Colonel Tate.

keeping the Buckeye right there in town in Ohio. Talk to me about that one, Connor. Yeah, I put Tate. I think they come away with the receiver with one of their two picks. I think if they're really comfortable with one of the receivers, that makes sense here. Also think, you know, I'm curious to see what, like, if there's any behind the scenes, Miles Garrett trade talk at this point as well,

because that could obviously, if like, I don't know, another edge guys here, maybe it's Bain or maybe it's, or sorry, Bailey. like could make sense. You trade Garrett, you get a haul, then you just start, you know, building from there. Could be interesting if they go Carnal Tate. I mean, it's probably not going to trade Miles Garrett.

But I think Kyle like Carnal Tate could make a lot of sense for them and then pair him with, you know, someone else at 24. So Tate right now is we've kind of talked about a couple times. Like, is he consensus? Is he not? Is he worthy of like being, I don't even know, five, six plus head picks ahead of like expected draft position otherwise. Probably not, but also the Browns are, I mean, they need a wide receiver and he can be a

playmaker. Yeah. I think it would be impactful to see how they value like the back end wide receiver, you know, one guys because obviously they have a pick again at 24. See, you know, and then you're kind of playing chicken, right? If you want to come out of the draft with one of those like top four receivers or so, you can very well lose them at by the time you get the 24 too. Scott, anything to add on Cardinal Tate?

No, I think Tate makes the most sense here for the Browns. You kind of expect the Browns to come out with some combination of a wide receiver and offensive lineman. And I just think when it comes down to it, you've got injury concerns with Jordan Tyson. You've got McClellan who's going to fit certain teams as far as being a slot receiver. And I think if you want to come out with the best of both worlds, I think taking Tate, who, you know, from a fan-based standpoint, easy to root for coming from Ohio. state being there with Cleveland. I think taking Taiton and whatever tackle, we kind of talked about the interchangeability of some of these tackles here in the first round, you take whatever tackle falls with the second

first round pick. I think that what makes the most sense right now for Cleveland. Yeah, I agree with that for sure. Commanders are fascinating. This is another team that are like, you could sell me on any position. Connor goes David Bailey here. You know, they spent money in free agency on the Daffa O. away and Gavion Chase on.

But again, like, you kind of need three edge guys for the most part to be competitive. They had pretty much zero. You know, Doran's Armstrong can still make Tanymas most of the year last year. So you can make the case that they maybe have their three already. But like this could be another Jeremiah love spot if he falls. This could be the Caleb Downs out. Or if not, Caleb Downs could, you know, very much slide. You have no idea.

You could sell me on the commander is also grabbing a receiver or a Cardinal Tate if they were to slide, too. So a tough, tough spot with the commanders for sure. You stop the slide of David Bailey here. Yeah, I think this is a problem with a lot of these like back half for the top 10 teams is they all have like two to four needs of players that play the position that are available. So like it's not even like, oh, this team needs this. This is the best available player and fits their scheme. Okay, that makes sense.

There's like two of those. Like Arval Reese maybe schematically. And then obviously Fernando Mendoza. And then after that, I don't know. there's like three or four guys at each pick that could make sense. So it's really tough to project. Yeah, I put Bailey here mostly just because he was sliding. You know, again, I think he's probably the most talented player left.

But yeah, I think you mentioned like communes could go in, I don't know, six different ways. Yeah, Scott, I know you have thoughts here too. I at this point, based on how the board falls, I can't imagine in this scenario that the commanders pass on Sunny Stiles. But I have no idea. Yeah, I think for the way the board, where Connor has his board set up, Look, Washington would be in trouble. I tend to think Bain makes a little bit more sense for Washington. I think the big thing that you start to look at,

they have a new defensive coordinator come in, we're projected to possibly be running a three, four. Duran Payne has been mentioned as possibly being traded. I don't think he's long for the team after this year. You start to look at, you know, Adafé-Eau-Wei, Cheson. I think Bain would be a little bit more of a versatile fit for what Washington wants to run. But then I also think Sunny Stiles, like Fall in here,

I think Stiles would make a lot of sense, and he would be my preference over the players that are on the board. And if Love does happen to fall past four and five there, I think Love is definitely in play as well to go ahead and pair with Jaden Daniels and have some identity on this offense past a really untalented offensive skill positions set past Tara McLaurin. Yeah. It's a tricky one.

I also could, it could be the stop of Cardinal Tate if the Browns were to do something different at six. It's just, you know, another one of these fascinating inflection points in the draft. Understand the David Bailey selection, though, for sure by Connor, because it feels like it's a guy that, you know, very much is coming off the board. Often, like the two to four range. And you still see him there at seven. Saints grab Rubin Bain here for you, Connor. Any thoughts here? No, now we're kind of just like in this, on a block of guys where.

Catch the falling knife. Yeah, Bain, Downs, Stiles, Delane even, I think is very much in play for like any of these like three to four picks basically. So Delane too, by the way, which I'm just kind of kind of lump these guys lump these next goal picks here together. And you guys can add some notes. But so Delane, there's been a couple of people saying that 12 is like his absolute floor. Like he was not going to get past the Cowboys. And which I thought was interesting. People also mentioned that about Downs though, too.

They said there's no way Downs gets past the Cowboys. I can't imagine they both Downs and Delano on the board of 12, but Downs over under right now opened it nine and a half. Took some steam, I think, to the over. Took some steam the other way. Now we're sitting like over nine and a half mentioned there. I haven't been nine here. The more I kind of dive into it.

What's like there was talk that he's probably more of a 10 to 15 guy from Jeremiah. That's, I mean, again, I don't know. Most of Jeremiah stuff is source, but a lot of his also, like, his personal opinion, he has, like, top 50 list. So he said that he thought he'd be more of a 10 to 15 guy. So I lean over at 9 and a half, but it's pretty scary because, again, there are, like, we just talked about him going as high as 5. And there are legitimate outs almost like at every spot before there.

There are better players and better, like, positional values, I think. But all it takes is one to bust your under there. So it's a really scary one. I have not played that, but I think that's kind of where I'd lean right now, even though I did mock him to the 9 here. Yeah, I kind of lean that way too, but like I would not surprise me that he goes earlier. Scott, anything here in this, I guess, Saints Chiefs or, you know, anything else you want to do? We went down to the Cowboys at 12.

Yeah, I mean, when we talk about Caleb Downs and you talk about Daniel Jeremiah, he's got him right there at nine. So no help with Jeremiah is like, you know, top 50 players or whatnot. But look, when it comes to Downs, I like the over nine and a half. And the reason why I like it is while Caleb Downs gets, you know, great reputation as far as like GMs and coaches and stuff. And I talk about his preparation, his instincts. I think the big problem for him here is that one,

you start talking about the position that he plays, but also he's done no testing throughout this process. You know, so you start to wonder, you know, what his actual speed and some of those things are. And then how is a team going to play him? He has to fit in. Is he going to be, you know, like, you know,

a high free safety, cover three, is he going to come in, play the slot? Is he going to play close to the line? So I think while he's a talented player, I think, you know, from a positional standpoint and the fact that he's done no testing and he has to fit specifically into a scheme, I think that's going to have me leaning to over nine and a half. And it's a bet that I'd feel pretty comfortable making dependent upon the numbers there. As far as these other players, you know, the Chiefs, one of the players that I've been getting a little bit, more comfortable is if Spencer Fano falls, I think he makes a lot of sense right there for the Chiefs to go ahead and slide into a right tackle position. And then, you know, Sunny Stiles,

I think the Bengals are in a position, especially defensively, just to go ahead and take the best player available. He makes a lot of sense there to the Bengals if he were to fall. But look, the Bengals are another team. I could see taking Caleb Downs and him, you know, maybe not getting there. But I think you're right by saying, you know, from the Saints there at 8, you know, all the way down to to Dallas at 12. There's a lot of players that could be interchangeable in the order that they go off the board.

Yeah, it's a tough year. It's tough. I think DJ did mention Spencer Finno at 9 as well. Just like Andy Reid loving, big offensive line, linemen early. They do need to kind of,

I don't know, they need some help a little bit of help up front, I think. So that would not be that surprising either. I think he's kind of a wild guard. I mean, I had it at 5, you know,

his like draft range on mocks is all over the place. Well, the one person that I can say, in this industry that is pretty accurate and well connected as far as getting the Chief's picks right is if you check out Tony Pauline and he starts like to say and look the Chiefs had a visit with this player they really like this player he's usually pretty tuned in and who the Chiefs are going to draft I will say if I'm just looking at the Chief's roster some of the

moves they made this offseason like when I look at where they have holes like safety is really not it they brought in Alohe Gilman I think that you know they drafted jaden Hicks a couple years ago. I think they really like him. He didn't get on the field much last year. Chamari Connor kind of stole that role. And Chimari Carter played out of position a little bit. Sometimes you played it as like the nickel.

But they went and signed Cater Coa from Miami, who missed almost all last season with injuries, really a pretty solid slot nickel corner. So that allows Chamari Connor to kind of stay in the strong safety role with Gilman as a nice free safety. And you have kind of Hicks with some depth. So I look at that roster and I like again kind of a weird rebuilding year in a way for the chiefs an opportunity to like swing at the top 10 which they don't get to do very often. I don't necessarily think unless they think Caleb Downs is a generational type prospect and some do doesn't jump out to me.

Like corner makes more sense. Like I think like Delane makes more sense for me when I look at the roster than Caleb Downs does. So that does help if you're considering the old. over nine and a half on on Caleb Downs because I feel like not that the chiefs aren't an out but it feels like a pretty thin out based on the roster. One of the things I come back to when it comes to Caleb Downs and not to spend too much time on him, but he reminds me very much of Brian Branch whenever Branch came out. And Brandt was a guy who had slower athletic tests.

I think he ran in like the 4-5, 453 range. But instincts, like team leader, all the same things that you hear about Philibon downs. And Branch was a player that was valued way lower in the draft. I think he actually ended up, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, into the second round. And so to me, there's just not much difference between the two to warrant Caleb Downs being so much higher. Yeah.

Yeah, I know I agree. Mancer Delane, 11 of the dolphins, kind of agree, Connor. Like, I very much could see him, you know, going 12 and 12 would feel like a hard pass for the, Cowboys to make, like I can't imagine they would. Miami could literally click pretty much anything except center. And, you know, I think it would upgrade their roster.

It's a pretty, I mean, again, they probably don't need defensive line in the first round, but they can have a lot of holes to fill. Dallas has a couple here as well at 12 and 20. You can imagine defenses on the table for both. They also, some rumors of them being a team that, like, they like to make a splash. They could be a first round trade-up candidate. They had their eye on a guy too. Kind of take us wherever you want, Conners.

We kind of. I was just looking at that, actually. Like, I think that the chiefs would be an interesting swapping point for them to skip the dolphins and the bangles. And the chiefs could probably still get an offensive lineman or like someone that they like, whereas the cowboys could get up and probably get Delane or downs or someone like impactful on the defensive side. So it's kind of interesting that you mentioned that. Also the Browns, there's rumors of them moving down potentially. as well from six if they don't like Tate that much.

So that would be a massive splash too. I don't, again, I don't know. You're trading all the up there. I don't know who you're going for specifically. But yeah, I think certainly in play. Did you, you clicking on your link here for dream landing spots for, I thought you were going to segue into a landing spot here for the Cowboys of someone something, but no, all good.

No. I don't know if I was hovering over something. Yeah, with multiple teams, too, with first round picks, definitely have some ammo for teams to make some moves here. So Cowboys seem to be, you know, a pretty obvious tell that they're going to double-tap defense here if they sit and make both those selections. But I like that angle on the Chiefs. That would make a lot of sense.

Like you kind of wait and see what the Saints do at 8 and if one of your guys falls. Because I also don't think that the Saints aren't out for Caleb Downs. Like maybe. But like I think they like Jonas Sanker, who they took last year. And they, you know, have Justin Reed on a, I think he's got at least two more years in his contract. So it doesn't feel like a pressing need for them either. Corner really is. So like I don't think that's a downs out either.

So good call there, the Cowboys. Rams? Go ahead. No, I was going to go to the Rams. I mean, with the Pooka Nakua stuff, like they got to take an impact guy. Adams is near. I mean, I had this before any of that stuff. And Adams is like, you know, kind of, you know, sunsetsetting his career at this point.

he's still fine, but I mean, Puka is the big news here. So like, is that Lemon? I think maybe it could be a Tyson at this point. Because like Tyson's obviously a little bit more of a bigger body. Lemon would be, I think, more natural fit in the slot if they want to play a little bit more 11. But like if they don't have much faith in Puka, kind of, I don't know, being right back in the right track, I think that opens them up to a lot more different wide receivers. Yeah.

Yeah. Scott, anything to add there? No, I think Lemon fits specifically the mold that they usually live. look forward in some of the wide receivers. They like guys that are like tough over the middle, breaking tackles and things like that. And, you know, with Lemon's track record, his profile, and Jordan Tyson having some injuries, I think Lemon's the guy that makes a lot of sense here for the Rams. And it's something I've been warming up a little bit more to. And I think a lot of mock drafts, I think he is specifically the consensus for what most people have.

13 and 14 feel relatively chalky for whatever reason. Now it feels like Lemon and, you know, vague Ione interior offensive line from Penn State going to to Baltimore. How did you entertain anything else with Baltimore? Because this is another team that these are these situations that I always try to check against. And it's like there's this general consensus that this is going to happen. But what happens if like this other offensive linemen is available or they're not around or like, you know, it's not like the Ravens don't have other needs. So any thoughts on the Ravens?

Yeah. I mean, I think that they do need to dress offensive line. There's some people are mocking receiver to them. I don't know if I'm really on board with that. I think they, I think they restructured Bateman, if I remember correctly. They still have Zay, you know, like maybe. I mean, it's possible.

Like, I don't think Bateman's awesome, but they seem to like him again, like him enough to, you know, keep him around. So obviously, that's not going to preclude you from taking a wide out you really like. Also, I mean, I think just stylistically, if you're Baltimore, like, you should know that adding another receiver is not probably what it takes to unlock Lamar at this point, I don't think. I think there's, they can just need to build up front, make sure the running game is going smoothly

and have him, you know, continue to do him. But I don't know, maybe you really want a wide receiver. And that's part of the plan going forward. So that's possible, but I think the interior offensive line probably makes a little more sense. Yeah. Interesting is I think, you know, with the testing that we just got from Jermann McCoy, who have next at 15 to Tampa Bay, which I think is a really good fit. I mean, kind of look at the roster.

for Baltimore, a cornerback upgrade would not surprise me at all for them to catch a falling Delane or McCoy as well. So I'm just trying to stay fluid there. But you landing him 15 in the box makes a ton of sense after Jamal Dean walked in free agency. It's definitely a need for them. They've really struggled in the secondary for the last couple of years. Let you expand there. Or if you want to talk to us about Ty Simpson to the Jets, which I think is obviously a topic

worth discussing. Yeah, real quick, Scott, I know you're normal. pretty dialed on the injury stuff. McCoy, what's like the kind of current thoughts surrounding like his injury stuff? Because that's why I don't have him at 12 because that's kind of like the current consensus. But I added your guys tidbit from last time that we spoke about Jerry not wanting to, you know, take on any redshirt guys. And I went and found the quote.

And I mean, he's just a freaking, you know, he's just too old, man. He's just saying whoever thought crosses his mind. It's nice though for us. We need some sort of truth, right? Yeah, dude. We need some of that. So that's a friend. Much appreciated, Jera. But anyway, Scott, any thoughts on McCoy's injury stuff? I tend to think that Jerry's telling the truth when it comes to the injury stuff with McCoy.

They took basically a red shirt year on Chavelle Reese last year. So they have a guy. I don't think they want to run that back the same, quite the same way. As far as McCoy goes, I haven't been able to find anything like clearly on his medicals. But when you start looking at a lot of the talent evaluators and stuff, they seem to think that McCoy's 24 tape was better than Mansour Delane's 25 tape. So if McCoy gets a clear bill of health, I think you will have some teams that like him and his upside a little bit more than what Delane. I think the lane's a little bit cleaner in certain techniques, but I think McCoy's a little bit more prone to getting that big play turnover and taking a little bit more chances. So it'll be interesting to see as I can dig

again a little bit more and start to find out like anything on the medicals that if anything leaks out and then if if he gets a clean bill of health what teams might value mccoy over delane yeah i mean he tested right the pro day this week so we definitely have like better news than we had maybe even when you wore out this mock draft on maybe if he would even qualify for the red shirt comment at this point so whereas like they drafted uh revel last year knowing that he was probably until October or November and he was. And so this year, I don't think you have that situation. I think McCoy is going to be ready on day one.

Now, you want the testing results to say this is maybe something that we need to watch and monitor over his next few years. Obviously, that's tough to make that first round investment. But he seems like he seems good to go. So interesting to see what Scott has there. So Ty Simpson, Connor, 16 of the Jets. Yeah, I'm not going to have this here in the next month. But, um, no, let's go.

We can see. We're going to go. I mean, published just like a week ago, kind of like thought about it more, started mulling over some of the stuff. There was like a big push in the media from Orlovsky, who's managed by the same group as Ty Simpson, CAA. I mean, this happens pretty frequently, I think, more than we know about, you know, just like same agency stuff pushing him.

He had a visit to the Jets like right the same day, basically, that I published this. So, I mean, more of the consensus seems coming out. like they have three first round picks next year, I think, or maybe three day, like first and second round picks next year. I think they're probably more likely to get a quarterback then. I think at this point, like, unless they really, really love Ty Simpson or he falls on them in the second round, I think that they're probably going to go elsewhere.

I think they're going to go with receiver. That's going to be my probably next pick here would be putting in like a Jordan Tyson or maybe a KC conception, something like that. I think here would make a lot of sense. You know, get Simpsons over under, juice to the over at 24 and a half. We don't get to bet no on the first round side here on draft Kings, but he is a minus 205 to go in the first round. So it's a little bit further down.

I understand why you did it at the time. Caden Proctor, 17 to the Lions, Dylan Theelman, 18, to the Vikings. King Sadiq, 19 to the Panthers, and then Cowboys Address Corner with Avion, who actually maybe now qualifies for the red shirt situation because we have some avion terrell injury stuff which is uh which is interesting so anywhere you want to take that uh color or anything to highlight before we uh we wrap up here yeah cediques over under's 15 and a half it seems really rich to me like i don't know i mean maybe i'm missing the room here right the buck spot

basically it seems like bucks uh and ravens because they lost as they likely obviously that's where like i'm seeing it mocked i don't know i mean i he feels kind of like a cautionary tale of like a big athletic tight end that didn't produce as much as he should have and I don't know just like has has that worked ever I mean rarely shorts and t-shirt all-star for sure yeah like big dude 41 and a half inch vert yeah I mean all these GMs can whatever you know be all jacked up that they drafted a guy who looks like Hercules and you know can it's crazy but at the end of the day, I don't know if he can play football. And it seems like all the comps we have of like the NOAA fans and, you know, those types of guys just never really work out.

So 15 and a half felt really rich to me. 19 was kind of the scene where I seemed to be more likely for me. But I don't know. I'm curious if you guys have any Sadiq thoughts here. Look, I'm in the same boat as you. I like them to the Panthers. I don't think he makes sense for the other teams that are there. I tend to think Tampa Bay actually likes Kate Otten, a good bit for what he brings, the overall package that he has with the offense.

and connection he has a little bit with Baker Mayfield. They've been able to lean on him when a lot of wide receivers and stuff get hurt. He becomes a little bit more of a priority within the offense. When it comes to Sadiq, I think what you're going to get is when you turn on the film, he is a straight line explosive athlete. Like there's not going to be a lot of crossing. There's not going to be a lot of route nuance and things of that nature. And I think because of that, I think Sadiq is being a little bit overvalued by some of the public

and what you're seeing with some of the drafts. I think that 15 number, I like the over a lot. I just don't see a lot of outs for the teams that have bigger needs over in the first 15, first half of this draft. Yeah, we're looking at minus 200 on the over 15 and a half. It,

you know, it's a little bit rich. I'm going to, if it sticks closer to the draft, I think I'm fine playing it. You know, I just don't want to get cucked by like a random. Oh,

the Cowboys love Kenyon Sadiga, actually, or something like 12 or 13 team that comes out and we miss out of the better number. So I think 15 and over 15 and a half is a decent look. Again, you're trying to build a portfolio. I don't think like a small stab now that's a bad idea. Yeah, I agree. I mean, if you look at the Bucks roster, you know, Connor went to corner.

I have a hard time thinking that if they have one of the two corners available to them or even some of like the edge rushers, right, whether that's like a Kendrick Falk or something like that. You look at their roster, these are important needs where you're starting to get really thin trying to jam in, you know, a measurable spark, you know, tight end. they have Kate Otton on the team as got laid out there. So yeah, I like the over look there on Cadiq for sure. Anything in the back end, Connor, 21 to 32 on the way home that you want to touch on before we wrap up. Yeah, one thing that I thought was interesting from the Underdog show was Josh Norris was like, I mean, not adamant,

but he basically said that Malachi Lawrence's range was 15 to 22. Did he really? Yeah. And I was like, yeah. Malachi Lawrence is awesome. I did my prospect preview for an IDP, wrote up all the guys, you know,

just, again, positioned myself very clearly. I'm not a scout. You know, I'm just a dude who likes watching defensive guys get after it. Malachi Lawrence, it looks different than a lot of the other guys. A lot of the other guys that are protected to go ahead of him.

So, and again, I know they're doing different things. Like Kendrick Falk's going to set the edge. He's not explosive. He's a high character guy. But you just want like situationally, get after the quarterback, Malachi Lawrence is that dude.

And some teams are going to want that. Love it. Yeah. So he's plus 200 to go first round on draftings right now. You can't really find that many other places, even like the exchanges and stuff. So, you know, that kind of sucks. But hopefully it's six around in like plus 150-ish range by the time we can get some pops down. I think that's probably a pretty good look, given what you said with Josh was saying.

Josh usually speaks from experience of like, I don't know, scouting, like him and Hayden do a really good job of scouting, but it's never really all that definitive, you know. And so when he says something definitive usually means that, you know, there's some other like layers to kind of where his opinion comes from. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be honest, just kind of scanning this. I like a lot of the fits here on the back end.

Like you draft, I think there would be, you know, good spots for people, maybe not Colton Hood to the Patriots. but I like a lot of the other fits. I mean, Caden McDonald, in the middle of that Houston, Texans offensive line, oh boy.

I like the Emmanuel McNeil Warren to the Bears. I think the Omar Cooper to the Bills is really nice. Freeling is a great spot. They're like, people were mocking them six to the Browns weeks ago, right? So like offensive line for the Eagles makes a lot of sense. So yeah,

I think this is a pretty solid mock. So, Scott, you're probably next with number two, right? Anything you want to add here before you wrap? Yeah, I've got one coming out probably this week or probably Monday. I'll finalize that.

Look, just one of the things I think is interesting with this draft season is there's not quite as much information that's coming out. I don't think we have as much of an edge. I think the market has tightened up quite a bit. We're just not getting a lot of the leaks that we would normally get. So, you know, our teams tighten up. The other thing I want to point out is I think AI is becoming a little bit prominent within the mock draft community. You're starting to see some mock drafts, like apps and some other things popping up. I think people are like digging in, finding like tendencies and throwing a lot of stuff into

mock drafts and specifically with AI. And look, I think it's going to be interesting to see some of the outputs. I think it's very good to, you know, as far as like digging into information and making decision trees and things of that nature. I think AI can actually uncover like some trends that, you know, people don't see normally. So it's something interesting that I'm interested to see how it pans out and looks. And I think you'll have some AI submissions into some of these mock draft contest that could turn things upside down. Claude, the real MVP of the mock draft season.

Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, we were touching on earlier. I know, like, you know, Connor poo-pooing a little bit of the wisdom of the crowd stuff of, you know, some of these mock draft simulators that are capturing, you know, fan-based mocks. I agree with Scott to the degree of like, I think with all the things,

whether it's NBA players, front office, I just think there's, teams are so deliberately cognizant of betting on these events now, whereas that wasn't necessarily the case as much, maybe four or five years ago. But I think there's just a real,

intentional, you know, line coming out from these teams. I'm like, don't leak this information. A lot of it, I think, is just held closer to the vast. So I do think that there is more T-Leaf, team need, GM tendency-based mocking versus the occasional, really good source for this staff type of situation.

I think those are becoming fewer and far between. So wisdom of the crowd, I think, holds a little bit more value than maybe it did in years past. Now, again, you're going to get some donks in there filling out some mock drafts. But as I talked to Scott, like, you know, we all share, you know, and I don't want to knock anybody's work. You know, there's some great resources out there that we could purchase that kind of like grab other things from the community. And some of those drafts of late don't have Geron McCoy in the first round. They don't have Dylan Thielman in the first round.

And I'm supposed to believe because they're from a reputable source that these are better than wisdom of the crowd mocks that do. Like I'm not all, I'm not sure all of them are equal. So, yeah, but Claude's going to keep winning, Connor. Yeah, Claude Forever. There's a great, great work by Hayden making that underdog mock simulator. it is cool. I guess I just like don't care at all about the fan what the fans have to say

and I care about what some people in the drafting you have to say and I agree with you that a lot of it's trash. So I would say I just actually don't care about like 95% of it in general. So in totality. So that's more of my take, I would say. Yeah. Appreciate everyone hanging out with us as always. Again, four for four bets or four four live on YouTube channel.

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