Move The Line - Expert NFL Week 12 2023 Player PROP BETS | Top Picks, Predictions & Odds

Episode Date: November 24, 2023

Join us in the exciting realm of NFL Week 12 as we delve into the 2023 season's top player prop bets. This is your go-to source for expert analysis on top picks, NFL predictions, and betting odds, featuring in-depth coverage of Tim Boyle among other key players. We offer exclusive insights into the most promising NFL player prop bets for Week 12, tailored for both seasoned bettors and newcomers. Our aim is to enhance your betting experience with strategic insights and expert tips, so you're well-equipped to maximize your success in NFL Week 12 betting. Subscribe to 4for4's Betting Package 👉🏼  https://www.4for4.com/plansSign-up on FanDuel Today 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/go/fanduelFollow 4for4 on Twitter 👉🏼  https://twitter.com/4for4footballFollow 4for4 Bets on Twitter 👉🏼  https://twitter.com/4for4betsFollow Move the Line on Twitter 👉🏼  https://twitter.com/MoveTheLineNFLFollow Connor on Twitter 👉🏼  https://twitter.com/ConnorAllenNFLFollow Ryan on Twitter 👉🏼  https://twitter.com/RyNoonanFollow John on Twitter 👉🏼  https://twitter.com/sloprulesVisit our Website 👉🏼  https://www.4for4.com/Join our Discord 👉🏼  http://discord.gg/4for4Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3OupraJ4for4 Betting Strategy Hub 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3hm39cw4for4 Betting Picks 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3LUp0EaNFL Betting Odds & Predictions 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3nsW9QU

Hello and welcome to Move the Line Prop Drop Show presented by FanDuel Sportsbook. I'm Ryan Noonan, back with my friends to talk about the best way, the most profitable way on this Black Friday to bet on NFL football. And that is through player props. We are live here. Typically 2 p.m. Eastern. We were starting a little bit earlier because we have this Black Friday game with the Dolphins in Jets here on the 444Bets YouTube channel. So if you're hanging out with us now, hit the subscribe button, hit the like button, jump in the chat, let us know what your favorite

Week 12 player prop is. Let us know what your thoughts here on this current game. We'll get started here and share some stuff there as well at the very top. You can also find this show on podcast form wherever you listen to podcasts. That'll be later on Friday evening as well. But being here on YouTube with us is your best chance

to get the best line, best price, no stale bread, as we say here around these parts. Make sure that you can tail as much as you want. So joining me here, as always, Connor Allen, what's going on, buddy? How was Thanksgiving for you? Yeah, it was pretty solid. Had good food for maybe not the first time in a while, but I went to i went to maggie's brother my wife's brother's actually good cook so that was refreshing to have like not super dry turkey uh good mac and cheese but uh as we were talking about before the show slop said you know when in doubt just douse it in gravy right just dump it all on that's yeah that's we talked about this on the wednesday show ironically right like you know it's no this was last week too we did it here on the Wednesday show, ironically, right? Like, you know, no, this was last week, too. We did it here with the A1.

This is the A1 thing with gravy, right? Slop, I mean, again, for people that don't know, hanging out with us for the first time from Odds Jam on Twitter, at Slop Rules, John Hyslop. What's up, guys? Yeah, so what you do is you just take the plate and you set it up in a way that you can just dump, like, gravy on, like, all of it. And then now you're set.

Now nothing matters. You know what I mean? Bobby Big Wheels is in here, guys. You see that? He made it. Wheels up. Yep, wheels up. Oh, man.

No, I'm excited. I feel great today. I know it's only Dolphins-Jets, but to be honest with you, man, there's two fan bases. I'll say a separate place for the things you don't want the gravy on. I don't know. I don't know. No i don't know no no no you put gravy on gravy goes on everything well i mean i don't i don't love uh you know i don't love some stuff there where you can you know like sweet potatoes well you know i don't want gravy on those

necessarily but yeah well teach their own i mean it doesn't go but like again it's thanksgiving it's a party it's for everybody yeah everything oh well we are uh fighting off the tryptophan and we're going to try to tackle this game which might put us into a deep slumber but we wanted to talk about some stuff at the top and remind folks though we have two episodes of move a line each week this is prop drops player props on wednesdays is our game previews connor myself sharp clark he's disappearing he's doing the disappearing act. It's a great freeze too. Great spot for a freeze. See his face? He looks good. It's too much power

on this new computer. I thought that was a powerful freeze. I'm hearing it now. Yeah, you get a new computer and then now we got other shit going on. You know what? You need to get our geek squad out there. We hire one of Silva's guys because Silva's got a lot of problems i mean the only thing that's

gonna stop us today is tech issues i don't even have the lighting on which is why i look like i'm just you know staying in the shadows because that's too much power for it too so you look great great i don't know i don't know what's going on but yeah we'll we'll go uh keep me in the loop let me know if i'm uh if i'm bugging out here, but yeah, I'm trying to keep things. Yeah. I need to get the geek squad out here. It's still a thing. Right.

So, uh, yeah, I'm lost my train of thought, but yeah, but game previews Wednesday, subscribe. You'll find it four for four.com slash plans. The betting sub is 1999. Take advantage. You want to get in the discord. You want all the things that we do on, on four for four, super cheap to take you through the end of February. You can bet NBA with us, NBA or NFL until we wrap up here. So check it

out for four.com slash plans and scoop the betting sub. Connor, let's start with the, the game that's about to kick here. Any thoughts here on this, you know, Tim Boyle special, are we banging Tim Boyle unders? What are we doing here? here yeah there's a lot of i don't think there's a ton of different like ways that i want to attack in the betting markets but a couple different angles here tim boyle you know has thrown three touchdowns on nine picks in the nfl so far oh slops pointing over um and i you know what i am taking it over on his one and a half interception prop at plus one um but i okay so i think I think there's a fun like SGP here that you can do for this game because I expect this game to be kind of a disaster on the jet side.

Like literally Tim Boyle does not belong in the NFL. He threw one touchdown of 13 picks at Yukon, Eastern Kentucky. He threw 10 touchdowns and 13 interception against FCS competition. Like those guys are salesmen right now. They're accountants. They're not playing in the NFL and he's still throwing 13 picks. Now we're getting him against Miami against Jalen Ramsey. So either we're going to see at least one interception here if they let him throw it all. Um, so I think that is an interesting leg. Um, also maybe some Jeff

Wilson props. We had, um, you know, Newton's buddy, John Paulson in the chat here, Jeff Wilson over 35 and a half rushing receiving yards. I love this. It's interesting. No Salvin Ahmed, no Devin Achain. He saw a lot of receiving work last time that he was in, but he was also a healthy scratch last week. But Rheem Moser is dealing with some injuries as well.

So I go back and forth on that. Slop, I'm interested to hear your take. And I have a nice little SGP to wrap it on the bow here after we kind of go through everything. All right. So here's the thing. I'm going to preface this with saying this is probably one of the dumber bets you'll ever make in your life, but this is a day that we can remember forever because Tim Boyle,

200 plus passing yards is like plus two 35 at FanDuel. Like that's what I got. Like that's 200 plus. You at FanDuel. That's what I got. That's 200 plus. You could do that in the first half. All right? And I think you remember our friend touchdown Tommy DeVito last week. Remember? When I was like two plus?

That's a very low bar to clear. How many did he throw, Connor? Honestly, I don't remember. I stopped any touchdown after two. He threw three that day. That was plus 450 to throw two touchdowns. So my point is bad quarterbacks can clear low bars, you know what I mean, even the bad ones, if the situation's right. The situation might, and it's a strong might, be right today

because the Dolphins might hang points on these dudes, and if that happens 200 plus it's just not a lot of yards not for plus 235 if this thing was plus 150 i wouldn't even do it do you know what i mean so i mean like price is everything here but plus 235 for a guy like touchdown timmy boyle to throw for 200 yards come on that. That's easy. He's got it. Oh, man. I mean, the issue is that, like, so obviously I'm a proponent of taking bad quarterback unders in tough situations. My issue is that, like you said,

I think that they will be able to find some reasonable success over the middle, you know, avoiding kind of New York Jets outside corners. And if that happens, like, I mean, Tim Boyle might have to throw the ball 35, 40 times and dink his dunk weight on the field. He does not take good care of the ball though. So like, I know some sharp groups. I know, I know hit man played like over one 60 or something like that, like really early in the week, maybe one 55. It was like, I mean, just so low. Like if they're gonna have to throw it that much, it's really tough to stay under. I've already taken

multiple bad quarterback unders this week, but just not that one. So I don't know. Noonan, how's the new internet treating you right now? It looks like you changed angles over here. And it's good. I just wanted to turn the camera off so I had less power on. But the thing I thought was funny on the Tim Boyle stuff, and I looked, most quarterback interception line? Yeah.

Oh. Oh. You got cut again. I'm telling you, the books cut them off. The books are cutting them off i don't want i know you're gonna say that you're saying most interceptions lines are over a half his is one and a half one and a half literally one and a half yeah it's wild crazy so okay so quick same game parlay here i know you guys are thinking i'm wild but i'm going on'm going along the line. Take a walk with me down this lane that the Dolphins just absolutely bash the brains into the Jets here in this game here.

So we're going to walk down that path here, the same game parlay. A couple different options here. Boyle over one and a half picks, two under passing yards, and then Jeff Wilson, 50-plus rushing yards. That's like 27 to 1 um Cedric Wilson over like 14 and a half receiving yards to go with two is under that's a catch it's a Cedric Wilson gonna catch a ball today that's basically yeah and he plays a ton in the slot like I was trying to figure out the best way to attack you know this game and it is due to slot but they

move around tyreek and waddle and like cedric wilson will be out there a bunch um and then if you want to add dolphins minus 19 and a half which again i mean there's spreads like already 11 they win by 20 plus it becomes 50 to 1 plus cedric wilson probably makes it even more so i think those are probably some of my favorite angles here um slop did you play any of those like officially do you play the cedric wilson one or do you play the uh i did boil and then i did uh cedric wilson 20 plus i'm sorry over 19 and a half so 20 plus at draft kings they gave like i think it was plus 140 i think they're still giving that right now i think the number actually went down after I played it, which is always a fun feeling. But, yeah, it's around that range, a plus 140.

Dude, the guy, he's going to catch a pass. Come on. He's been on the field recently. He looks like he's part of that team. I know Berrios is coming back, but Wilson and Berrios overlapped a couple weeks ago. They were both playing, and Wilson had more snaps. He was more part of the

the game plan than barrios was so i'm telling like one catch guys he can get that yeah i mean braxton barrios down bad ever since his you know tiktok influence her girlfriend alex earl cheated on him uh you know what a disaster with like a with a 17 year old you know i mean yeah braxton barrios should probably just retire to be honest i mean the kid wasn't even of age man yeah that's what we're doing out there absolutely outrageous here um noonan i'm scared to kick it to you here because uh you look like a thumb right now like a like a fuzzy thumb so we're just gonna keep rolling here um uh okay i think that was about it for the jets game uh jets dolphins game here i'll go through the chat um and see if we got anything here he's coming back jeff of course jeff wants a kicker i knew he was like there he is their line over one and a half field goals jeff loves

the kicker props him and bobby big wheels are on a uh big kickers are people too it's like that every stream they recommend every single stream here goes the kickers again gotcha uh i like it though i i like the fact that kickers get some love that is a fun part of the game i guess you have money on it i mean i think anything can be fun if you have money on it right yeah no that's the whole premise of that i had to explain that to my family yesterday it's like this wouldn't even be like half as fun if we didn't have money on this like i like it but like i said yeah you feel gambling now it's like oh no it was yeah it was great we uh i bet brian robertson under 22 receiving yards yesterday with Antonio

Gibson back, had 19 on the second play of the game, caught a negative eight yard screen the next, like, like two plays later, and then did not get a single pass the entire rest of the game. It was just like, it was awesome. Yeah. It was a great, nice sweaty under, um, got there, but didn't look good. Didn't look good early. Um, early um all right well let's see here i think we can kind of just keep rolling here i don't know if uh throwback noonan has arrived

here sam see um he's back yeah i don't know i feel good right in the middle here. I feel like this is good. How's my audio sound? It sounds beautiful. Perfect. Yeah, amazing. It's unbelievable. Best audio I've ever heard. My mic is sending everything on the fritz. Okay.

Yeah, good times. So I apologize for that. Some tackle thoughts here. Oh, yeah. Some people want to know. It's a pretty bad matchup for the Jets. The Dolphins really are a bad matchup for linebacker production. And actually, it's a pretty bad spot for assists as well.

Miami's actually 31st in opposing linebacker tackle rate, which is like 5% below the league average, only 14.8 tackles per game. I mentioned the scorekeeper thing too. So pretty good spot to look at unders for both CJ Mosley and Quincy Williams. Now they're both really good and they both put up a ton of tackles. So it's maybe a harder one to swallow. Probably go Quincy and lay the juice if I only have to take one. But our new friends at ESPN that will let you actually parlay them and play around with some stuff, take some alts. So I built out a parlay in this one,

looking at some alt unders on these guys. Also, the projections really like Zayvon Howard on Miami's side, but that kind of correlates with Tim Boyle completing passes, which is a little bit of a stretch. Not something I'm – yeah. Same thing for Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey is a nice under. That actually correlates nicely with what we expect from Tim Boyle.

So played around with a few things here too. Christian Wilkins is also popping projection-wise too. So I took Mosley, Williams, and Ramsey, took the unders, and then added a Christian Wilkins over for a little like same game tackle parlay for this one. But nothing that jumps out in terms of just straight binary numbers that I want to bet. I got a question. What about Miami's secondary tackles? I bet you there's multiple drives where we see Tim Boyle complete two passes and not get 10 yards. Does that make sense?

There's going to be tackles to be made. Watching him last week, I know he was cold. He came up, but it was from like we're talking like five feet away. Like these are the balls he's thrown like every time. So what about that? Yeah, that would make sense to, you know, like I said, Zayven Howard is popping in the projections. So that would probably be a good way to go. If you buy into that, I just, I think there's, there's so thin anyway,

tack like overs on corners, just high variance. You see a lot of linebackers tackling in the flat, stuff like that too. So it's not something I would chase, but I like where your head's at. Maybe the linebackers then. Yeah, Miami's linebackers are tough. It's Jerome Baker, but they also rotate. Suddenly you'll see David Long play every snap, and then suddenly Long is 50% snap rate, no rhyme or reason.

It's just kind of a mess. So Miami is not a team that I mess with very often. Yeah, Mal. We got the Braxton Berrios revenge game. That's what I forgot that he played for both squads here. Yeah, I mean, that could be a big deal too. That could overtake the infidelity issues. Yep um well the tiktok and the judge revenge like there's a lot of revenge you know this guy's just a mad guy yeah he's got a lot of pent-up anger i'm sure so maybe he lets

it all out here i mean maybe we play like a 25 plus for barrios i mean that's you know i'm serious i was looking earlier and i went for uh cedric wilson's done and also i guess the other news we didn't even touch on it there's like you know alan lazard announced out um you know so how does that impact the jets receiving core uh i don't think it does that much because you know we got timmy boyle behind center here who slop is much more comfortable with than I think it's noon and I are. But we're probably going to see more Jason Brownlee more Xavier Gibson. And then obviously we'll still see plenty of Garrett Wilson. So that's kind of my take on how it shakes out,

but there's not really, I wouldn't say there's anything super actionable because you don't want to really bet on any of these guys to go over their prop. If you're going to do that, may as well just take Tim Boyle over if you're going to kind of bite the ugly bullet there. Get live. I mean, hey, if you like to party, two touchdowns is like plus 410 at Caesars. I mean, I don't call him Touchdown Timmy for no reason.

Connor, do you have his college stats still available? All right, look, guys, time out. While you're looking for that, Connor, I do want to say touchdown Timmy has thrown two touchdowns in an NFL game before. It was against the Seahawks. They were getting curb stomped. He played for the Lions, and he threw two touchdowns that day. I think he threw, like, three picks that day too as well.

So, I mean, it was just a Tim Boyle just explosion doing all the things he does. But I'm just saying it happened. And he force fed Sun God that day too. So, maybe Garrett Wilson. Yeah. I mean, the issue is that he's just like – like people are like, oh, well, Zach Wilson was like the worst in the league. How much worse can it get?

And I think in most situations, that's probably true. But I think in this situation, it's almost like throwing like, I don't know, like a D1 double A quarterback into the fire and saying, hey, go try and do this. You know, like like there is always worse if you throw in worse players. Like, I mean, if you throw a high school quarterback in the NFL, he would obviously be worse than Zach Wilson. And he's not that bad, but like, I mean, he turns the ball over more than like anyone ever. His interception rate is like 7.8% NFL.

The normal rate is like 2%. He was playing free back then. He's back. And he gets Nathaniel Hackett. He sucks too. He's a terrible quarterback. He didn't take a sack in those three starts, which is wild.

It's 200 yards. Yep, there's that. Touchdown Timmy is going to be fine, I think. You're saying how much worse can he be? You're right. He probably is worse, but there is such thing as the dead cat bounce, too. You know what I mean?

Everyone gets fired up once. Maybe he gets a couple drives. Again, 200 yards, that's not a lot dude two touchdowns too that is down to plus 360 at seizures now just saying it was plus 410 but people heard about timmy and they're jumping on it well i for one i'm very excited to watch him fail miserably so i think we will just agree to disagree and i will be betting over one and half interceptions. This looks like slop spend 200 plus yards, two touchdowns. That actually helps me,

Connor. He throws some picks. We get Miami with some short fields. Timmy's Timmy's going over 200. I'll take under one and a half games started this season, by the way, I'll take, I think he's either gets back.

I think he gets benched either during or before next week's game. He makes it, he makes it through today and probably never plays again but that's pretty much that's my take on it so it's our one and only chance guys and it's on black friday in like seven minutes i don't see how anyone could like not want to get in on this special day we'll never forget today good selling point for sure. Look, I thought the Tommy DeVito line was bad as the first half line. It turns out it was a full game line,

but didn't even need it, Slop. Just saying. Why would you not trust the Tommy? The back row touchdowns. I've watched it my whole life. You watch some bum just light it up every now and then. Just got to pick the right day.

Love it. Your headline is catching some strays here in the chat. I know. Wilkins Sacks for the price is great. Jets O-line is like Slops hairline, non-existent. Brutal. Hey, they're getting Dwayne Brown back. I don't think he's going to play, but I heard he's ready. Yeah, Mekhi Becton out.

That's why I was looking at Jalen Phillips is like minus 120 for over quarter sack. I was really surprised because I went back and looked at yeah, except on Paulson. Looks good on Slough, though. That's when I went and started

looking at the Timmy Boyle sack rates, and I was surprised that he just got the ball out so quick when he was in Detroitroit so yeah probably not marino back there quick release catching fire oh man um all right well i'm good to move on to the regular games you guys good yeah yeah let's uh let's get it started connor floor is yours uh first actual uh sunday look here for uh week 12. sweet all right we are going to be rolling with for my first one a guy that we played last week as well we're going to go with justin herbert under 252 and a half passing yards uh this is a dk caesars prop builder a couple different spots here um i mean i think in this spot a lot of the

analysis kind of is the same as last week because you're looking at a guy now who's playing without a large percentage of his weapons. Now let's play against the Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens allowed one passer to throw over more than 250 yards all season. And that was Jared Goff, who threw the ball, I think, dropped back actually. No, he threw the ball 52 times. Still only got to 284.

We've seen Herbert match up against multiple different people or multiple different tough defenses. And in this spot, I mean, this is like one of the toughest. So against the Chiefs, Jets, Cowboys, he threw for 136 against the Jets. 259 against the Chiefs, but then just 227 against Dallas. And again, the Chiefs won. He had Josh Palmer. So it's a tough matchup.

I think the Ravens are going to slow the game down here. So I like this under a good bit. Yeah, I thought you might have this on the docket this week. Yeah. I know you just stopped listening when he said under. Yeah, I didn't even notice. I heard under. I'm out.

I got two unders this week too. I wanted to make your Thanksgiving better. Yeah. He said he likes Thanksgiving, and Connor's like, enough of this saving the unders for pregame. I'm going to bring him for the show. Classic Connor.

I'm in the heat this week, so it's all on us, baby. I kind of like it, too. It's not my cup of tea, but I like the rationale and thought it would be on your list here. Slop, how about you? What's the first look here for Week 12 for you, bud? All right, so I just came up with this two seconds ago.

It's a fresh one. What about – I'm trying to get a number actually now, but what about our guy Gardner Minshew, 250-plus passing yards against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I mean, those guys, I don't know if you've seen them play this year, but they give up yards against their job. Yeah, it's plus 102 at FanDuel. I feel like that's a great look. Here's the thing.

They kind of stopped the run, the Bucs. So we got that going for us, and then it's throw time. But Minshew has proven he can throw the ball. I mean, I've been on the show before with Minshew 300 plus. I think that worked out for everybody. I think we can easily go 250 plus. We're getting a deal because last week he didn't break 200 against the Patriots. Week before that against the Panthers, he didn't even break 130. So there is that. But you can kind of run on both of those teams you know so they didn't really have to throw like i bet you they get in situations they have to throw

the ball sunday and the bucks like i said they give it up like it's their job i mean they're i think two other teams in the entire nfl have given up more passing yards than they have to quarterbacks and that's like the chargers who i I mean, that doesn't even count, and then the Commanders. I mean, I could throw on them. So, yeah, this feels pretty easy, guys. 250, that's not even – it's like a half. We're aligned, my friends. Kind of build out a same-game parlay here.

My first play is similar. Look, Josh Downs, over 47 and a half receiving yards uh you get 48 and a halves out there pretty much everywhere else rivers has the 47 and a half but yeah i mean same premise teams pass against the bucks the third highest rate in neutral scripts we've seen shane stein can be adaptable depending on whatever the game plan needs to be based on his opponent. And this Buck secondary is also torn up. Jamal Dean's out. Inside linebacker Levante David is out too.

Carlton Davis has missed a bunch of time. He hasn't practiced, I don't think, this week, so he might be out too. And Downs has been dinged up. He's off the injury report, so he should be a full go. And they've actually, especially in the slot against tampa bay they are giving up a league high 86.8 receiving yards per game and six receptions fourth most in the league so downs at 47 and a half absolutely love you can ladder it up there you can same game parlay with minshu uh absolutely love it connor any thoughts on uh indie passing game here yeah so joshs reception prop opened up at three and a half minus one 40 and on DK.

And I was stoked. I was like, Oh man, we're going to have another just hammer time. So I played a little bit, you know, I was like DK on cook the cons. You can usually get down like a hundred. Um, I usually won't let you get anything more than that. So I just bet a hundred on it. And I was waiting for all the other services to open up or like the different fan duel or prop builder or something to open up where you can get down real money. And I mean, some, some of these Twitter cappers bother me because they blast out solo outlines to their a hundred thousand followers where no one can bet it except for like them for a hundred bucks. And it drives me insane because I was going to, I mean, lay the hammer on over

three and a half receptions and instead it gets blasted to the moon. It's like minus one 90 now or minus one 80. And so it's completely cooked and I'm pretty pissed. I was looking at the yards, but I think I've just been so mad about it that, um, yeah. Yeah. Name names. Who did it? You know what?

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna name names. I don't like to do that, but you know who you are. If you're blasting out shit that you know is wrong, that, you know, especially on a big platform, like say maybe the action network,

some garbage. Don't tell me. It wasn't. I love the action network some garbage don't tell me it wasn't i love the action network i love a lot of guys there but yeah this pissed me off and it's happened multiple times because they just blow up the market for everyone like you know it's like instead of giving everyone a king-size bar you're giving them like a little jolly rancher you know i'll take a jolly rancher wait wait a couple minutes and give everyone a king size, you know? It happens on... Yeah, it happens like Price Picks only plays two on like Tuesdays.

Like, God, we don't even have the line everywhere else, and now you're going to nuke the Price Pick line, and the books are going to... I hate it so much. It drives me insane. So, yeah. Downs, three and a half is a great reception number. Yeah.

Oh, an absolute gift. I mean, I don't know. Would you consider – I guess you played 47 instead of four and a half. So, yeah, I guess both those are solid. Let's go five plus. Yeah, what's five plus? I haven't seen it yet. I was hoping you guys knew what it was.

Looks like Bobby's talking about it. Bobby Big Wheels probably has it. He knows what seen it yet. I was hoping you guys knew what it was. Looks like Bobby's talking about it. Bobby Big Wheels probably has it. He knows what time it is. He's off the rails. Bobby Big Wheels, what's the five plus number on downs? Someone has that somewhere. I'm zooming. I'm trying to find it here.

It'd be on FanDuel. Oh, they posted reception props. That's why. They haven't posted reception props that's why that's why they haven't posted yeah they've got the alts and sodas are friends at fanatics shut up fanatics i love you guys just so you know yeah you guys are awesome i think draft case has alts on the reception lines too um do they think so uh maybe not no not i think they have alts on the uh sorry on the receiving yards yeah they've got two different ways. Like, you know, they do like 40 plus 50 plus six, but like they have it that way.

And then they also have it the other way. You don't like where they'll add like 10 or 15. You know what I'm saying? So like, you don't have to go with just those bands, which I kind of like that. So one 20, one 25 on ESPN for downs of five plus. I mean, I don't know. Yeah,

that should, we should be getting better than that. If he's getting five catches, he's probably an over on the yards marker. So, I mean, especially with how bad the Tampa secondary is. Like he gets the bullshit ones though.

Connor, like the, you know what I'm saying? Like he'll get those. Yeah. They do those like a play action ones and he just like rolls out there for that little one. Yeah. Like thanks. Free reception. I think I-action ones, and he just, like, rolls out there for that little one. Yeah.

Like, thanks, free reception. I think I just found the player of the year, but keep going. Oh, buddy. All right, well, we're in the spicy section where this is the gravy. Let's hear it. The player of the year. Gravy all over the plate section. Yeah, let's jump on it.

Give it to us. You want to go in? All right. How about – and work with me, how about Lamar Jackson, 325 plus passing yards plus 700 at FanDuel right now? I mean, we can water it down if we want, but what if the Chargers score on them? I think Lamar Jackson can light them up. I mean, I don't know if you watched Beckham Jr., but he looks filthy these days. He looks like you plugged him in again, like explosive.

Without Andrews, I think that kind of helps. Like none of that, let's settle for stuff. You know what I mean? Like send one of those speedy receivers over the middle. Zay Flowers, I mean, he'll probably get killed, but still, it'll be for a good cause. Plus 700 for 325. I think he's only done this once this season.

But that defense, yeah, he went 350-70 against the Lions. But that defense for Baltimore is so good that it kind of caps him. But here we're on the road. We're inside. It's prime time. Maybe the Chargers take it serious. I mean, you saw how Staley was getting the other day yelling at the media. So he's fired up. I mean, nobody allows passing yards like the Chargers take it serious. I mean, you saw how Staley was getting the other day yelling at the media, so he's fired up.

I mean, nobody allows passing yards like the Chargers, except for the Commanders. But, like, that doesn't count. So, dude, 325 for, like, plus 700. Let's not focus on 325. Let's focus on the plus 700. That's kind of, like, that feels doable. Sam says eight on Caesars.

Ooh, let's go to eight then, Sam. Nice work, bro. Sorry, I didn't check. All the way up. I'm on it. Yeah, I don't mind that at all. It's the best spot to do it, right? Crazy.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Newton, that's thank you. Because I was talking to my buddies, and they're killing me about taking some of these randos I've been taking. But it's price. You know what I mean? And it's price and it's environment. That's all you're looking for.

You know what I mean? You're not saying he's going to get 325. You're saying that if he's going to do it, it's probably going to be in this environment. And I think that's correct. And I think that's definitely doable, though. That's the other part of it. It could easily happen.

If you want to go 250, I think you could. And cover yourself up there. And then, yeah, it's like minus 110, 250 plus. So, I mean, you're investing in Lamar Jackson in that point, but whatever. At that number two, when you have to go to 325, you got to bring some receivers along for the ride because the receivers' lines are so low, right? Like Flowers is like 66 and change.

Andrews is out. You got like Isaiah Likely is like 29 or something like that. Like, you know, Bateman. Odell's got a shoulder issue, but I think he's going to play. Like someone's going to be brought along for the ride here. So, you know, if you're going to do it, you might as well make it, you know, add a leg. Zay Flowers, 100 100 plus something like just ridiculous

like that because if if if he does throw 325 plus like somebody is going with them i mean it's yeah math and science but i think uh odell is like banged up too he said that he's not sure if he's gonna play but if he does he'll be in a lot of pain so i tentatively i tentatively did take some odell unders but i you know because it was like 40 and it's like his prop is normally like 20 uh 25 so i know he just exploded but a banged up odell is not someone i want to bet on but i do think that the lamar bet is way better like lamar flowers i mean maybe take some nelson agler action could be pretty spicy i feel like some overs there could be could be nice yeah Yeah. Bateman?

I don't know. Bateman, I don't mind. If he plays, he's not that bad. He's not Jerry Rice, but he's not that bad. I think there's something going on. They don't like each other. Something's happened because he's not that bad and he never sees the field

really, it feels like. He's been in the doghouse probably a little bit because he's been unable to stay on the field. So that's a problem. Conor, what do you got for Spice? Same game parlays. Are we doing any inversely correlated SGPs? What do we got going on this week?

Yeah, I think I'm going to give you a game and some rationale. And then I have a bunch of different legs that I think I'm going to give you a game and some rationale. Um, and then we're going to, we, I have a bunch of different legs that I think are great here. So Buffalo Philly game, hot take combined for 60 plus points. Yeah. I mean,

this game is going to get hot quick. I mean, Buffalo's defense was not playing well before the jets game ranking bottom five and almost every key metric cornerback, Dan Jackson, safety, Taylor rap, both already announced out for this week.

They got injured in last week's game. And then on the other side, I mean, like Eagles offense didn't necessarily look good against the Chiefs, but Chiefs are like a way, way, way better unit here than, you know, than this Buffalo defense here. And on the other side, I was encouraged by what Joe Brady did. Again, you know, avoided those outside corners, focused on the middle here. And this Philly defense is really exploitable. I mean, the Chiefs should have easily put up

like 30 plus points here if Kelsey doesn't fumble in the red zone, if MBS had hands. I mean, I feel like most of us could have caught that in that situation. And then Mahomes threw a rare kind of end zone pick there. So I think we're going to see a ton of scoring. Both sides here, I think, are both solid. My legs that I like are favored here.

I mean, you can get wild here. I mean, it's like Josh Allen and Hurts both to throw for 300. I think Diggs and A.J. Brown are both in great bounce back spots. I mean, after coming off of down weeks, like 125 plus, like it was automatic for A.J. Brown, has one down week. Even mid-game, he's like complaining on the sideline. He's like, throw it to me more, throw it to me more. Now he has a great matchup.

So I think that's going to happen again. Gabe Davis also very much in play. I think that would be a good inversely correlated parlay because the Eagles have been like bad downfield, like on the, on the perimeters at times and over the middle. So it's like, I think that that could play out perfectly for like a Gabe Davis inversely, like maybe under two and a half, under three and a half receptions, 60 plus 70 plus yards. Um, and then the last one,ton kinkade also looks like um dawson knocks out again and then i mean the eagles are one of the worst teams at defending the tight end in the league so like there's like seven legs that i just gave you there i think that you can

put together some pretty fire stuff i put together like i don't know four or five of them i mean putting a couple bucks on them like 10 bucks10, $20 here and there. So anyways, any thoughts on that one, Noonan? Yeah, I mean, I think I was just trying to wrap my brain around the thought of Sharp Clark's bet against me, basically. We talked on our Wednesday show. I mean, I absolutely love the Eagles team total at 26.5. I bet it three times now because I'm just like, I just want to get a little bit more on it.

That number. I just I think the game just I think, like you said, there's so many avenues where it goes kind of bonkers. If nothing else, like the Eagles can can score if it gets to a spot where like the bills continue to build off of last week, then they push the Eagles even more. and then this game can go to a different level like we've seen some i don't even think we've seen like ceiling outcomes from the eagles offense yet this season because they've had games where they drop like 35 and like turn the ball over twice inside the red zone like they could have some like 50 60 point games the commander's game comes to mind and again i know the commander's defense is terrible but like you outlined this number like the market at 48 and a half for the total this game i think kind of considers the

bills defense a top 10 unit as if they were completely healthy and like and you outline the guys that are already out now you have a couple other guys that are questionable too like they could be without another four guys that got dinged up in that jets game this week like like damar hamlin has not been playing all season. DeMar Hamlin is in the game this week because no one else is active. So it's a spot where I want to find different outcomes. Now, I typically try to go a little bit more conservative here, and I did that. So you can get both quarterbacks 225 plus, really low bar.

Both quarterbacks to rush for 25 plus. Again, significantly lower than their number. And then you take A.J. Brown, Devonta Smith, and Stephon Diggs, 60 plus. Again, all lower than their numbers. Again, that's seven legs, so you've got a bunch of stuff there. But that's plus 960 on FanDuel. Almost 10 to 1 for a fairly conservative, albeit seven-legger, but fairly conservative same-game parlay that just kind of needs this game

to be pushed a little bit. So, yeah, plus 960. Slav, I gave it too bad, right? No, I love the safe seven-legger. You know what I mean? Right? Nothing better than that. I'll tell you this.

FanDuel's got digs at 78 and a half and everywhere else pretty much is at 73 and a half so oh if you're yeah if you're looking for digs i'd say caesars or betmgm if you can bet more than five bucks but uh those are both – yeah, I mean, I can't, but maybe you can. The people, not us. All right, so also Gabe Davis is one that I'd be shy. Like he's down at like 35-and-a-half at FanDuel. That feels kind of crazy because the only way you move the ball against Philly really is through the air. I don't know that Buffalo is going to be able to even run on him to begin with.

So I don't know. I kind of like where Connor's head's at. This thing just gets out of control, and it's like the kind of game in DFS where the winning lineup has everybody from that game, you know what I mean, and then a defense from somewhere else. It's one of those type feels if you ask me. That's the thing too is I don't think that either team is going to have a ton of success running the ball.

So the Buffalo defense over the last, I, it's like four or five weeks has actually been pretty decent. Their run defense, their run defense, their pass defense has been atrocious against bad opponents. Now, maybe some of that was scheduled fueled, but like they have been at least fine. And then another side, the Eagles run defense is awesome. I mean, they're like, you know, they let up a lot of yards, but check out last week, but that was, it took them 20 carries and like half the runs were like stuff behind the line.

So, I mean, Buffalo's not going to do that. They're just going to give up and throw. Like, you know, they're going to say, screw that. So I think this game is going to be a while. Like I'm going to have a bunch of random stuff here. If you take alts and you can easily get to like 100 to one, 200 to one on like three, four legs here. I'm like Josh Allen overs alts, you know, total overs, things like that.

So I think there's a bunch of different ways you can play it yeah you know alts alts with three legs conservative with seven legs it's up to you you know however you want to you know connor and i put our pants on the same way one leg at a time uh but sometimes it looks a little different you know that's no but uh it cannot be understated that the Chiefs should have beaten the dog shit out of them last week. That that – the Eagles. Like, that touchdown at the end, I mean, that's a touchdown. Talk about the Kelsey fumble already.

Didn't he throw a – somebody threw a pick in the end zone, right? Yeah. My point is the Chiefs are just moving the ball on them all night and just not scoring but on their own accord. It had nothing to do with the Eagles. You know what I mean? It's just their own miscue. So I think Buffalo is like 30-plus points-wise. You know what I'm saying?

Like that should happen, and the Eagles could score with anybody. So we just kind of just keep going. Yeah, love it. One other thing I had too with the uncorrelated same-game parlay kind of goes back to what Slop and I touched on at the start with the Colts passing offense. Alec Pierce is a guy that feels like he's built for these. You know, a lot of deep targets, and he's out there for 100 of the snaps doesn't see much mostly just running wind sprints but you can do uh the under two and a half receptions for

pierce and then you can take the alts on his reset receiving yards 40 plus is 10 to 1 50 plus 19 to 1 60 plus 37 to 1 uh so we just need Alec Pierce to, you know, catch one bomb and maybe one other pass. We could be cooking here with gas with a garden of insurance company. So Alec Pierce is probably my favorite way to attack that market. If you want to get down with that, like we did last week.

Love it. Yeah. That's, that's probably smart. I think Gabe Davis, Gabe Davis is a good one too. Like we talked about. And then Alec Pierce is solid.

Christian Watson saw a ton of targets. Otherwise, he would have been – I mean, you would have been stoked after that first play there. We had a 50-yard guess. But he ended up being a target hog for the first time in, I don't know, like maybe his career. Like, I mean, literally that was like maybe the best game of his career. Here, you know what?

Can I say one thing? I'm still kind of pissed at the lions because Jordan love was probably going to throw for 500 yards yesterday, but the lions just, just, they couldn't hold up there. And that, that was going to get so good for Jordan love.

If he, if golf doesn't fumble and then there's that, the run back there for the touchdown and then golf fumbles again, gives him a short field. Dude, that would have been the greatest game ever. So Christian Watson, my bad, he could have had a gigantic day. I'll tell Jordan Love. I mean, last week we hammered Jordan Love over longest completion, 36.5 yards.

He had like five completions over 30 yards topped out at 35. It was very, very, very tilting tight end, stepping out on his way to a 45 yard touchdown. That was, that was a, that was a tough beat last week, but yeah. You know, good matchup. Jordan Love can cook. They take chances down the field. So. Yeah. Inside, I think as to where you play him against the team that's going to

score on the Packers. I bet you that guy, he'll give you a few 300 yard games like that. All right, Connor, last one. What do you got here to finish? Last official play for me. It's a little, a little bit scary here, but I think that I think we'll be able to, you know, win our money back. He kind of owes us a slop says here, Devin Singletary under 48 and a half rushing yards. This is on FanDuel right now.

I think there's a couple of things working in his favor here because we're looking at a guy who played extremely well the last two weeks, crushed against Arizona and crushed the week prior against the Cincinnati with a ton of volume and in a game where like both those run defenses suck. I foolishly took the under last week against Arizona because I was like, okay, well, there's a lot of different outs here. If maybe the Texans don't control the game. Well, they controlled the game and Devin Singletary saw like 20 plus carries. Now Damian Pierce is back. He's off the injury report. Bobby Slowick said midweek, like we would

see a pretty even rotation. We want them to get back to that. Um, so we're going to see Damian Pierce rotating in may. I mean, I think it's going to be one, a one B situation here. And you get a tough matchup here against the Jaguars. Jags run defense has allowed four running backs, clear 45 rushing yards all season. Um, and those were all basically like workhorse backs in this spot here. Now, Singletary is obviously splitting work, but they're allowing just 3.6 yards per carry to opposing running backs and our first and rushing success rate allowed so far this season.

So I get it. You know, like I get why Singletary's number is higher. I know a sharp group took Damian Pierce's number under when it opened to like 38 and that's a down to like 28, but I think now at 48 for Singletary and I think it's 45 in most spots is, is really solid too. And I know it's definitely not going to be something either of you like here

because he's been playing well, but I think there's a solid edge here. I don't mind it. I think he's been playing well because of the matchup. So I don't hate it at all, especially with Pierce back. So, yeah, I'm good there. Yeah, I mean, like they split work. You know, like you can go under. Matchup, you can go under.

If the Jags start winning, they have to throw the ball a bunch, he can go under. Like, there's, like, a lot of different ways that it happens. It's just you need, like, one or two of those things to actually come true this time. Yeah, I don't need it at all. All right, good. Slop, what do you got here?

What's number three for you in the card this week? I know we already talked about this game, but, I mean, I'd say Gabe Davis right now. You can get him 50-plus at Fandle for plus 174. He didn't catch a pass last week. I think it's all roads lead to Gabe Davis this week. I would say he probably gets this on two balls, to be honest with you. I think it's going to be that kind of game. That's the way you can safely...

I feel like that's the way that now i can safely play some parlays does that make sense like you got that one in your pocket and then now you kind of get loose a little bit but i mean we've already talked about why am i gonna but i mean like it's i i think this is a good one yeah just you know the money's already in the books so you want to go ahead and use that to double down? Yeah, exactly. You got that one going, so now you're good. Now you can party. You ate your vegetables. Now here's your dessert.

All the parlays. I like where your head's at here. Trying to shop around here, make sure I'm giving a number that's still available here for my last one. Any updates? What's going on in New York with the Jets and Dolphins? Touchdown Timmy's already got five yards. He has five passing yards. Ooh, baby.

He only needs 195 more. That's it. Two Dolphins are driving. Yeah, they're about to score. Yeah, once they go down, that's when touchdown Timmy steps up. Probably. That's right. I think we're getting rain and snow.

I think it looks like in Philadelphia at 4.30 on Sunday. That's right. As long as we don't get wind. Yeah, that's what I was looking for. The wind, we're talking like 5 miles, 6 miles an hour. we're good and yeah like go ahead unless it's like uh absolute downpour of rain or snow only thing that really matters is wind usually so i don't know i think it did kind of affect kc philly

a little bit like early and then they kind of got over it so but there was a couple of balls where they just like dropped you know i mean they're, they're, they're really bad. All right. My last one, Brian in the chat here is reading my mind. My last play here this week is David and Joku. We play over 37 and a half receiving yards. That's on rivers. It's, there's some 38, 39 and a half. Those are all still playable to me. Insane 15 targets last week for njoku um we've not small sample it's only been two games but he got peppered in the other dtr start as well 32.4 target rate with dtr quarterback uh and this is the best spot in the league for tight ends

denver's allowed the most receiving yards in the league to tight ends league high nine yards per target you got strong safety. Kareem Jackson suspended again. So the matchup's even better. Was waiting for a reception number here, but we haven't seen it. Probably going to be, you know, a juicy three and a half or, you know, plus money four and a half or something like that. I think that's fine too.

I mean, four and a half plus 120 or something like that would be fantastic. But, yeah, 37 and a half. Like they try to get Njoku in the screen game a ton uh you know which is very strange which is why you know the reception number is nice but uh you know you can break one here too and the receiving yards are nice so yeah in joku 37 and a half receiving yards gonna take the over there any thoughts connor i love it i also had that on my list um but i had the reception mark again just like downs just waiting for something magical to happen here and there are no reception lines up for that game i don't think actually to be honest

so um yeah i really like it i think it's he just keeps targeting tight ends but my only concern is that dtr sucks so it's just going to basically be on and joku to be a baller and i think that he is so uh it's definitely still lean over at the number i was just hoping to get like a like you said like a three and a half, maybe like minus one 25. Look, but I mean, that might be a pipe dream to be honest.

We might not be able to get that. I think that's my dream. That would be, that'd be an absolute, absolute hammer time. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair.

You get scared that they can run on Denver. So then they just talk it. No, I think they do. I think they run on Denver. I think they run well, but like, he seems to be, you know, like you think you want to get into,

like, you know, receiver-cornerback matchups, not necessarily a thing that we spend too much time on. But I do think that they've done a good job against wide receiver ones. So I think, you know, Omari is probably not super heavily involved. The old ancillary receivers there aren't super exciting, especially with a below-average quarterback. So Elijah Moore seems to be a guy that he can stand up for. What about Elijah Moore?

If he comes out at two and a half, do you take that over? That'll probably never happen. Yeah, three and a half. Yeah, three and a half is tough. All you have to do is – Broncos have been playing well, so if the Broncos do make that a game, like they actually play from ahead, I think the – and Joku and Elijah Moore would probably be good reception guys

because you can't imagine DTR hitting anyone deep. So, you know, you just have little dink and dunks all the way down the field. Yeah. Like I said, that's been in Joku in the screen game, which is weird. But, yeah, if that continues, that'd be my preference. So even a four and a half at plus money, I think would be probably pretty interesting on Joku if that comes out.

Or if we could take an alt somewhere that offers alt receptions. So with that thought in mind though, tackle wise, Alex Singleton, Denver linebacker is a look here with slop sand a cleveland probably runs the ball and runs it successfully uh 10 or more tackles for singleton in seven of the past eights he's playing every snap uh he's really taking over for josie jewel is like the main guy there in cleveland is giving up the highest rate of linebacker tackles against in the league so

singleton uh probably nine and a half. That's a look for an over there, depending on the price. And then another game we've talked about extensively here, Jordan Poyer has been killing it. They increased his snap rate inside the box. I think just because some of the injuries too, to support the run. He's got eight or more in four of the past five. And safeties against Philly. It's a profitable strategy.

They are giving up 17 and a half tackles and assists per game by far the most in the league. Poirier is coming off of a bad game last week, but I think that's Jets related. That's Jets not being able to stay on the field, run plays, sustain drives. So that's not going to be a problem here because we've already kind of sussed out with the Eagles. So Poirier will be a guy I'm looking to target depending on the price and number there.

Sack-wise, again, similar game. Miles Garrett is like the good chalk sack play of the week. No line yet, but he's an absolute monster. Russ is eating sacks fourth most in the league, and his pressure to sack rate continues to climb up. So I'm willing to lay a little bit of juice with Miles Garrett getting on the board here. The sneakier one is going to be, again, no line on this currently, but I'm going to be looking for this.

Jeffrey Simmons, Tennessee. Interior, not a place we often go for sacks, but 40% of the Titans sacks this season have come from the interior, which is the second highest rate in the league. That's partially because they don't have really good edge rushers, but Simmons is kind of a beast there too. The Panthers are decimated up front. They have both their starting guards are on IR now.

So they're going to be running out some backups at guard against Jeffrey Simmons and Bryce Young has taken the third most sacks in the league. So Jeffrey Simmons, we'll be looking to see if we can get like a plus money quarter sack line on uh on draft kings there uh it'll be some of my uh sacks and tackles looks for this week love it can't wait hey somebody wants to know in the chat about chakur uh 50 plus receiving yards here's the yeah you could take both you could take literally both of those gabe davidson him i bet you one of those guys ends up at 50 plus and like one's plus 174 one's plus 280 and to be honest with you both could do

it so i don't know that's not a bad that's not a bad little strategy he's massively benefited from no dawson knox he's been awesome yeah yeah i like it. I'm in. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'll put him in the rotation of my SGP as well. Who knows? Because I don't know. So he wasn't on Fandle. Yeah. Yeah.

I haven't seen him, no. He wasn't on Fandle for nine years. No. He'll be around. He's been cooking. Well, that makes sense. All you got to do is just wait. Yeah. Don't give him too much.

We can mow through some questions here before we log off. Jeff, Pats, Giants, Unders, Alok, both thanking for Drake May. Noonan, are the Patriots thanking? I love that we're now – we've shifted, and Caleb Williams' discourse is – it's not even a discussion. We were clearly thanking for Drake May and not even Caleb Williams. So I don't know if the Pats are tanking, but God, I hope they lose. I promise you that.

Let's take care of business. Let's get one of the three alphas in this draft, whether it's one of the quarterbacks or Marvin Harrison Jr. or whatever. The Pats need help. So I hope they lose. I did. I mean, just imagine, though, like Caleb Williams rolling into the Patriots,

you know, uh, like thing right there, like with like painted fingernails. Like, I mean, Bill Belichick might have a coronary on the spot. Like it was like,

I mean, that would be a wild combination of Bill Belichick and Caleb. So yeah, I mean, Drake may seems to be more of like the, I don't know, like the football guy, but I think Caleb is still super talented.

So, um, and then Brian, yeah. What do you guys think of njoku we already talked about that tank bigsby touchdown plus 425 um i don't know he's kind of been seeing less work right so yeah i don't think he's been playing much right yeah who's they brought in uh dearness johnson maybe was they brought in Dearness Johnson, maybe. They brought in someone else to play more because Bigsby just wasn't getting the job done. But, yeah, don't love it. Kander said you're making progress.

Slop really just said, I don't mind it about an under. I didn't mind it. I mean, I'm not going to do it, but, like, I don't know. If someone else wants to, they're well within their rights. Slop, I bet an under under yesterday a tackle under for Thanksgiving, and we hit it. I'm trying to hit it. We missed a tackle under all season.

I cannot believe that you're undefeated on tackle unders and you played like five all year. We need like 50. We need like 100 tackle unders. I'm just like every time you put your notes, you're like, I lean on this under. I'm just betting every time you put your notes like my under i lean on this under i'm just betting every single one now just because i'm like noonan doesn't like it but i know that deep down he really does like it he just doesn't want to play it no i bet the ones the ones that i like i bet that's why we're undefeated i pick my spots you know yeah i've

been like nuking them i've been doing like three times the amount on the unders because I know that when you play them, they're like absolute smash hammers. Like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, we haven't yet, so. Yeah. No. And then yesterday's was seven and a half. It was, you know, he got too late in the last drive to put him at six,

but we were cruising there all game. It was never in doubt. So playing time unders or the piece where i like to go we could find like an edge in playing time where the books aren't accounting for something uh that i'm over here uh you know grinding down um so yeah that's that's where we're at so yeah boil already double digits for yards okay yep i just saw that he's already up to 13 yards guys out there spinning it wait till they let him loose too wait till they take the training wheels off this kid and we got jeff wilson in the game this is kind of

interesting second second drive yeah second drive for jeff wilson so that's like i think it's a cedric wilson drive see out there yet i only see one wilson but you never know oh interesting um all right we got a couple more uh we talked about shakir foster moreau anytime touchdown 10 to 1 i don't know but you but this seems like a good spot to bet my mortgage from jeff i mean slop are you yeah you're hiding the clip i i i dude i still see that drop on thursday night in the end zone and I just I can't take it out of my head that I don't know like it's that's tough that's a good number though I mean that's the number you want if you're betting Foster Morrow touchdowns like you want to be in you know the thousands

yeah I mean I think with interest rates right now like you want to get ahead of it and start to you know compile get ahead of the PMI and stuff so I think it's really smart to get the mortgage down on it to just kind of get ahead of it. Get ahead of December and just start 2024 off right. So 100% is really good. Smart. Sam asked, what are our best Thanksgiving leftovers? Gravy, right, Tom? The gravy. I mean, as long as you got gravy you're good you can have thanksgiving dinner all over again uh multiple times until you run out of gravy that's so good and then last last one here that we have

what did y'all buy for black friday i paid for the vip pass of the golden banana that's jeff right yeah yeah the jeff is out of his mind i'd hang out with him though uh yeah i'm a sleeve to uh love i love my uh my travis matthew gear um and they have a great black friday sale going right now so uh you know you like comfy sweatshirts best pair of jeans you'll ever wear in your life um price is a little hard to swallow maybe, but hey, 50, 60% off. And you're like, hey, this $180 sweatshirt is now only $90. I got to buy it because it's so cheap. And you forget that you're actually paying $90 for a sweatshirt,

but really comfortable, promise. Do they shrink in the wash? They do not. They do not. I'll tell you the best pair of jeans you'll ever put on in your life. They do not feel like jeans. So, yeah. I have tried to become a spade sponsor.

I've tried to get paid. Yeah. Do they have like a baggy fit that's not like wrapper fit? You know what I'm saying? Like I don't want like skinny jeans. So, like if you go to get like baggy, there's no in between like you're there no i mean i'm flop i'm 43 i mean i'm not wearing skinny jeans yeah no i'm 46 i'm i can't do it so but like at the same time though like some of them like like i said if you if you get baggy you'll try them on you like dude i'm not

like like i don't i don't got an album coming out anytime soon i need like regular jeans no i think you know i think they're appropriately fitted yeah they're appropriately fitted i i highly recommend it oh jeff's got some uh for me jeff hit me up yeah slide in the dms i'm sure noonan slash bethbert's golf can work out a deal for some uh some stuff there don'll meet you at the banana. Another one's banana. Awesome. Yeah, let's hit up the gold banana for Cyber Monday. You know, sounds like a great time to me.

Noonan, you got anything else for the people? Any extra stuff lingering that you wanted to get out? No, that's it for me. There's a couple other things I liked, but I want to look at a little bit. Samadji Pirine, Russ is checking down a lot. Samadji Pirine did like seven targets on like 12 snaps last week. So, you know, running back receiving yards are pretty thin but uh that would be something i look at yeah slop wearing skinny jeans must look like when you bang the business tube against the edge of the counter yeah i mean i can't i can't imagine i

mean he's a married man you and you and skinny jeans i mean that would be that's it that's exactly what it's unbelievable it's it's sight. Oh, it's so good. There's a pile of dryer sheets in your pocket and no one knows what happened? Yeah, I mean, it's a party in there. Oh, man. That's it for me, fellas. All right.

Awesome, awesome. Bring it home. Awesome. All right, well, you can do the outro no no i wasn't sure if you were like you know how you were feeling no i appreciate everyone taking uh you know giving a little bit of grace and patience here in this uh black friday with my blacked out uh photo my first of all that photo is like it's about a year old okay so you know we got paulson out here hating, saying that, you know,

I don't look like this anymore. It's too young. Like, that's not an old photo. It's been a long year. But, you know, like, you know, back off, Paulson. Yeah. Head over to 444.com slash plans. $19.99 for the betting sub.

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