Move The Line - Expert NFL Week 13 2023 Player PROP BETS | Top Picks, Predictions & Odds | Zack Moss & More!

Episode Date: December 1, 2023

Join us in the exciting realm of NFL Week 13 as we delve into the 2023 season's top player prop bets. This is your go-to source for expert analysis on top picks, NFL predictions, and betting odds, featuring in-depth coverage of Zack Moss and other key players. We offer exclusive insights into the most promising NFL player prop bets for Week 13, tailored for both seasoned bettors and newcomers. We aim to enhance your betting experience with strategic insights and expert tips so that you can maximize your success in NFL Week 13 betting. CHAPTERS:0:00 Intro6:15 Tyler Higbee Week 13 NFL Player Prop Bet12:00 Jameson Williams Prop Bet 31:40 Dolphins - Commanders Parlay38:31 Unofficial Prop Play46:13 Michael Pittman Prop51:06 Audience Questions1:03:23 OutroSubscribe to 4for4's Betting Package 👉🏼  https://www.4for4.com/plansSign-up on FanDuel Today 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/go/fanduelFollow 4for4 on Twitter 👉🏼    / 4for4football  Follow 4for4 Bets on Twitter 👉🏼   / 4for4bets  Follow Move the Line on Twitter 👉🏼    / movethelinenfl  Follow Connor on Twitter 👉🏼   / connorallennfl  Follow Ryan on Twitter 👉🏼    / rynoonan  Follow John on Twitter 👉🏼    / sloprules  Visit our Website 👉🏼  https://www.4for4.com/Join our Discord 👉🏼    / discord  Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3OupraJ4for4 Betting Strategy Hub 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3hm39cw4for4 Betting Picks 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3LUp0EaNFL Betting Odds & Predictions 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3nsW9QU

Hello and welcome to Move the Line Prop Drop Show presented by FanDuel Sportsbook. I'm Ryan Noonan, back to talk about the best way, the most profitable way to bet on NFL football. And that is through player props. We are live here 2 p.m. Eastern every Friday on the 4 for 4 Bets YouTube channel. Handing out our favorite player props here for week 13 and taking your questions. So if you're hanging out with us now on the YouTube channel, jump in the chat. Let us know what your favorite prop bet. Prop look is here for the week.

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Subscribe wherever you prefer. We appreciate it. Joining me here, as always, Connor Allen. Connor, what's going on, buddy? Not a whole lot. We're coming off a week where I hit a 50 to one and 27 to one, uh, same game parlay for the black Friday game that we talked about on this

show, literally right before the Miami game shots, Tim Boyle for throwing those two picks and continuing to be terrible. Um, so that was awesome. Uh, and then today we got some fun stuff to talk about a new idea. I'm going to,

you know, broach you guys about in the hot take section that maybe could be a little bit of fun. So I'm excited. Couldn't get in on that play because at the same time as you guys were talking about that, it was almost like a filibuster because my tech was going sideways. So, of course, bad production, and I miss out on the 27 and 50 to 1 actions. Not great. You guys went head to head last night. Obviously, the other man joining us here as always

from Odds Jam. None other than John Highslop himself. Slop, you went over 300 yards on Dak. Connor, like an absolute psychopath, went under 280 and a half. Dude finishes at 299. Just brutal. No one wins. What a dick. No one wins.

No one wins when we go against each other. Lesson here. I think that's the lesson we learned. Yeah. You can't do that. You can't go. You just can't bring the forces of the prop drop head to head. You got to bring them together moving forward.

You don't pin them against each other. Yes. And also, just don't take unders. Even though it did work out in the Black Friday game. But touchdown Tim Boyle. I know you were watching. Like, he almost got home on the 2-1. Like, he was there.

Like, I didn't want to do it, but I had to do it. He almost got home. That was going to be the greatest cover of all time because it never had a chance. And then at the end of the game, it kind of had a chance. But then he touchdown down, Tim Boyle did. That's why you don't take, you know, overs are always alive. They're always alive.

They're always alive. I was feeling pretty good. I was like, no, this is going to happen. This is crazy. I have no business in this bet, and here I am fighting for my life. You could be down, you know, 70, 80 yards short of your problem. Hey, we need a nice long touchdown drive here, you know 70 80 yards uh shorter your property hey just we just need a we need a nice long touchdown drive here you know yeah yeah you know three four tackles down let's just get the ball the other team we can just tackle scum in bunches you know you're never dead until you're

dead uh you know when connor was dead in the first half on deck um and then thought the second half maybe he wasn't for a little bit because that game slowed down a little bit. Connor Wiseman jumped in on his conviction and pounded a live under on Dak to get a little bit closer. So I really respect the conviction on the play. And even though it didn't work for you, it didn't in the end. You hedged a little bit.

Yeah, made some money back at least. Um, but yeah, it was like, I was like, no way he's getting over three 40. No way he's getting over three 15. I was like,

it's just not going to happen. And thankfully he calmed down. I was definitely a little nervous there, but then they called a million DPIs. They like, you know, guys were dropping balls. The Seahawks suddenly became like one of the best passing games in the

league against like one of the best defenses in the league. It was such a weird game. I was like, I knew immediately once DK Metcalf house that like 80 yarder, I was like, Oh, it's over. I was like,

it's, you know, it's over. That's when I knew my underdog ticket had legs. Cause I had Gino, uh, Dak and DK. And it was like all overs obviously.

But, uh, I knew it was, I was like, all we go like this is this is perfect man Connor we gotta talk about we were talking about a play just before we got started we gotta talk about that one at the end of the show uh even if it's not an official I just I want to see Slop's reaction to this play I mean he's just he might log off that's why we can't do it now because if he logs off then we you know we don't have him for the rest of the show so uh i want to remind folks we have two episodes here move the line each week this is prop drop so player props if you want more sides and totals game previews connor myself uh sharp clark go live at 3 p.m eastern on wednesdays again a podcast forum and then also here on the 444Bets YouTube channel as well.

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Live lines, no stale bread here. These are things that you can bet on right now. We want to make sure that you guys have the best shot to tail us here. Connor floor is yours. First play for week 13. Yeah, it's frustrating. So one of my plays got blown up here, but we're going to start with something that I don't think slop is going to like at all.

It's another absolutely ugly, hideous, no good under, and it is, it is low. So we will see how this one goes here. I'm going to go with Tyler Higbee under 26 and a half receiving yards. And we're looking at this because since Cooper Cup returned, we're looking at a spot here where he's cleared 26 yards in just two of seven games. And that came against Arizona. That came against Dallas, who were 29th and 25th in DVOA against tight ends. Now draws Cleveland, who is first in DVOA against tight ends. And they're allowing just 20 yards per game to the position. They've allowed just three instances of tight ends to clear 22 yards.

That was Mark Andrews twice, Noah Fant. And they held multiple good tight ends like Trey McBride, George Kittle to one yard, Pat Frymuth under 10 yards twice. And Joe Flacco during the start of the year, I think just kind of like kills the game. So low passing, not very many targets, tough matchup. You know, if I'm going to play something like low under like that, it's got to be like that.

How much worse can he be than, you know, DTR or what we've got out of PJ Walker? Like, it's a – they've been so bad. Like Flacco, it's not exciting. Like, I can't imagine that they're going to be that much worse. I don't know. It's interesting. He was fine last year.

I mean, he was significantly better than Zach Wilson. He chucked it around, too. Yeah. A bunch. Yeah, it's interesting. I was looking into that stuff, too, on the Brown side. Because they run so many plays. The Browns, no matter who's been a quarterback this year,

part of it is because the defense forces so many three and outs. You get so much volume on the Cleveland offense even though if it's inefficient and bad quarterback play because like other teams just can't sustain drives against them so uh slop i don't know if you turn you know tuned out there connor talked for about three minutes said some stuff i don't know if you put any of those words together but any any thoughts on uh you want to talk to us about flacco if you uh don't want to talk to us about a hig you don't want to talk to us about him behind. I'll be honest with you. Elijah Moore, guys like that, reception-wise, are going to be fun with Flacco. Watch.

He's going to catch like 30 balls for like 12 yards. But no, under 20-something, that's insane. But to be honest with you, I would never take take that over so if that gives you any idea of what i think about i would never ever ever have his over that's a win even at 26 he had five catches for 29 yards yeah five against a terrible team in defending tight ends like how like how do you do that i don't think he's fast i don't think he's necessarily like big i got there's nothing about him that you're like dude i gotta bet this guy you know what i mean zackerts jr you know yeah not great i mean we know flacco is gonna start yeah like 95 i think right well so they've

been clear that he's the guy he's next they're done with the pj walker experience and dtr is still in concussion protocol so they haven't announced it they did recently release some of the pass catcher props but we don't have any flacco specific stuff so we don't have official word that it's flacco uh we do have from earlier in the week that flacco is next and uh you know dtr game he got poundeded on that play like i don't i don't think he's coming back as a quarterback in concussion protocol we've seen it a few times but it's been very rare to come back within that next week due to concussion protocol symptoms and etc so yeah i think it's very i'm very confident i feel like it's going to be Flacco here. So, yeah, interesting game for sure.

All right, Slav. Yeah, yeah, I mean, we played the Njoku last week. That went very well. You know, I was digging into, like, how often, you know, Flacco was targeting, you know, Tyler Conklin and stuff like that last year in the Jets. And there was a couple high-volume Flacco attempt games, and Conklin was on the receiving end of quite a few of those too.

So, yeah, some of that stuff is interesting too, right? Elijah Moore, they played together in New York too, so there's some of that narrative if you want it. Yeah. Shower narrative, I think that was fun. Yeah. They might touch tips. Who knows?

Yeah. Who knows? You know what I mean? That was back when Elijah Moore, people thought that he was going to be good. That was back when Elijah Moore is an alpha. Elijah Moore is to be good. That was back when Elijah Moore is an alpha. Elijah Moore is going to be awesome. It turns out it just isn't that good. But you never know.

Maybe all he needs is Joe Flacco to reignite. Here's the thing, though. He doesn't have to be that good to catch like three balls. You know what I mean? He did it last week. I thought I lost because I got home at the end of the game and I saw Paul go right through his hands. I thought he was stuck on two still, and I needed two and a half.

I'm like, you've got to be kidding. Like, how did he miss that? So I was all, like, super mad. I was like, dude, that was it. Like, that was the play. And then, sure enough, I looked at the stats. I was like, oh, he's got three for 55. I already won.

But it did remind me that that's not the best receiver, that Elisha Moore guy. So it is a reminder. Like, he will drop one right in his hand yeah you don't need a lot though like you said the bar bar will be pretty low do we have um i mean we're talking about let's just let's just see if we have any you're you're receiving yards guy right you like uh i would do it but I am a receiving yards guy. 34 and a half honestly seems high. That's way too high. I need receptions.

He's going to catch one of those nonsense balls, like behind the line scrimmage. That's a reception. He'll lose two yards. And then, you know what I mean? Like, he ends the game three for 16, and we're all rich. No reception props, it looks like, unfortunately. Yeah, I don't see receptions yet.

Anyways, I'll go with a different receiver that we don't know if he's good or bad, and I'm going to go over, obviously, because I'm not a chump. No, I'm just kidding. No, I'm going to go over on Jameson Williams. I've been waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for him to pop, but his number is like 23 and a half i think let me hold on let me just make sure it's still there i took his 34 and a half or i took over 30 or over 34 and a half plus 175 at fanatics earlier but if you want to just get a

nice easy win i think it's like 23 and5. Hang on. I'm almost there. Sorry. Yeah, 23.5. DK, Builder, Caesars, stuff like that. Yeah, so we have 23.5 minus 114 at FanDuel. Looks like, yeah, that's where we'll go. Here's the thing. He's playing more.

He was on the field 67% of the snaps last game. On Thanksgiving, I don't know if you noticed, but he was in the slot a few times, and he's not totally a like has to catch a deep ball or he gets nothing guy. Like because he was running routes out of the slot. I think he gets this against the Saints. I mean, they're not great against the pass. They're not great against the run either.

It's inside. That's all I'm kind of looking for at this point. I think they're going to feature him a little bit more. I don't think he stays in the four targets. At some point, you're going to see five, six target games. But that's an incredibly low bar for a guy who's done this the last couple weeks. He can get this on one play. So I'm all over it.

Connor, any thoughts? I love Jamison Williams. I know he gets so much hate. I know you love Jamison Williams. This is draft bets. Yeah, 100%. Jamison Williams made me a Kia, so it was nice. But reality is, I think he's more than just a deep threat.

He was crushing teams on slants, crushing teams on crossers. You just get him into some space and he's good to go. I think he's learning more about the game. What was telling to me is he had some good blocks downfield in a touchdown run, and Dan Campbell ate that shit up. He has played way more ever since. I've been eyeing it. I just haven't been able to pull the trigger.

I don't know. I think 30-plus, 40-plus, 50 plus are all like fun little sprinkles. I don't know if I'm there yet for like a regular 23 and a half line, but I can definitely see the reasoning, especially he's playing this a lot more. I did not see that in the usage. So that makes sense. I love it. Um, I'm, uh, we're on the same page because one of my plays for today is Jameis Williams over 15 and a half for his longest reception. Right. So like we could do it to your point. Like, yeah, he did move into the slot a little bit.

I think 25% of his routes are in the slot, but yeah, we're just, we're upticking, like you said, in, in participation, we have, you know, 60%, a little over 60% two weeks in a row. Last week's season high 31 routes. His season average is 15.3. So we're like, we don't even need him to do too much here. Basically be better than average. Lattimore being on IR I think helps too because there's a trickle-down effect

to how it shifts with the Saints secondary, and that's massive. The coach speed coming out of it is important too. Like he that massive block connor's talking about in that chargers game where like he broke that long one i think it was montgomery rim for like 80 yards but he only got that because like james is rent down the field and like cleaned up someone down in like the 20 where there's no way that like montgomery's running in that without uh that block so uh ben johnson talking about like he's just been awesome in practice. He's earning more, more opportunities.

So he's just gonna be on the field more in the dome. Like you said, we got a lot of rain this week. We had golf in a dome that protects it a little bit too. So, and he's doing like, he's been doing this. He's topped this number in three of the last four.

So he's in the mix and we can get spicy here too. If you want, he is, if you want to do our uh our uncorrelated parlays um he's only he's topped at two receptions this season i agree that we're we're like pushing up against it and this might even be the bet connor like if you want to get involved because he's two and a half receptions it's minus 195 to the under he has not caught more than two balls in any game this season but if he is playing more we could start to see like three balls get involved here pretty quickly too but if not you want to continue here go under you can go under two and a half receptions over 50 receiving yards he literally did this last week he's he did it in

week six against Tampa Bay. He nearly did it a couple weeks ago against Chicago. He had 44 yards. 24 to 1 to go under 2.5 receptions over 50 yards. So, you know, we can get a little bit wonky with it too. But, yeah, I think he's just involved more. And even if he's being involved with some, like, lower ADOT stuff, I still think he does have the ability to take a slant and take a deep

too. So yeah, I'm in on the Jameson Williamson stuff. I love when we Jameson William stuff. I love when we kind of accidentally stumble into something like this here too. So yeah, we're we're all in.

Yeah. That's, that's great. We have a question here. Wouldn't Jameson over 23 and a half yards be a much better bet than over 15 and a half longest reception yeah ryan he made it first i mean when you want to like yeah i don't know what to tell you i gotta be honest with you i agree ryan i i was thinking about this it's like i think that both are great bets right because i think that there's a good chance that he gets

deep on the saints like for everything you said i think there's a good chance that he gets deep on the Saints, like for everything you said. I think there's a good chance that he's involved more. But I guess like one-to-one, probably prefer 23.5. I don't know. I think that's like – you know, I think that's tough. So I don't know. See, I kind of go the opposite way. So like, you know. If he catches one, it's probably going 20-plus,

and that's kind of part of my rationale too of taking just that one bet, just in case he does catch one pass for 27 yards. Well, guess what? Your bet would be better in that situation. You know what I mean? He said 15.3 is the season average. 24-1 is available on DraftKings where you can do that. I looked on FanDuel. FanDuel does not currently have a Jamison recept receptions number so right now that is uh just a

draftkings play currently so uh you know what vandal does have they've got williams 90 plus yards at plus 9 20. there's gonna be a game there's gonna be a game. There's going to be a game. I'm just saying there's going to be one where he does catch four or five balls and he ends up 90. Like maybe the Josh Reynolds type mold. Like remember him in the first game of the season? He had like 80 plus yards. He was a footnote in that game. You know what I mean?

Like it wasn't like he was all over the place. But 80 yards, guess what? That was plus 880. I just think – I think Williams is coming coming I think it's it's pretty much time that's why I'm a little nervous to do the uncorrelated parlay because like I feel like he's going to get in a spot where he's going to start catching you know three balls he hasn't done it yet I definitely would not play under two and a half minus 190 it's insane but uh yeah he's just on the field more we're gonna start to

we're gonna start to get there so yeah jeff i appreciate the shout out just in the chat and if you can't see the chat he said i look like a movie star basically uh that's how i interpreted that i really appreciate that jeff yeah so literally he said that he said you look like a movie star basically yeah i need the hat with like the long fishing hat the kid wore in sandlot because he's saying i look like the kid uh the nerdy kid from sandlot so yeah um i do not have a babe ruth signed baseball but uh and my neighbor is not uh what's the name little jones or whatever yeah yeah so that's a big kicker guy go back i mean he loves the kickers who's that george no i'm sorry yeah yeah i got one of those highlighted for later nick folk over one and a half field goals made he loves kickers loves

kickers love it jeff appreciate it buddy tell my wife i look like a movie star someone on the show so like a movie star today uh carry me through the weekend buddy i appreciate that very much all right even though we just went off the board a little bit we got a little spicy again the uh show. So let me start today. Carry me through the weekend, buddy. I appreciate that very much. All right. Even though we just went off the board a little bit, we got a little spicy. Again, the gravy ran into the rest of the plate. We are now in the official gravy covering the rest of the plate section of the show. A little spicy, a little same-game parlay action, a little uncorrelated parlay action, Connor. Hit us. All right. So we're discussing a new concept today. Something that I thought was kind of interesting. Something that me and our other completely wild degenerate long shot friend Dalton Cates and I've been discussing is that round robinning alts together.

So basically pick my five favorite alternate overs and I'm going gonna round robin all of them for again for you know pizza money uh whatever like small small small amounts of money here but you can win a shitload of money here oh it's so long i knew he was gonna be doing it i knew it was coming there you go shout out to sal sal's the best uh we'll take it research style putting the sandlot thing up there uh love that um okay so my i think five or six that i got here brandon iuk to get 100 plus receiving yards you can do this by the way anywhere dk caesars fan duel all of them will let you do this you gotta before you hit submit there's like a little button that says multiples or round robin or whatever and you can do it by threes that's what i was suggesting you do by three so it'll end up being like you know a couple bets here and there

um brandon iuk 100 plus receiving yards awesome matchup against Philly. They should be able to have to throw at least a reasonable amount in this game. Outside receivers have crushed a hundred plus receiving yards a bunch. And Ayuk's been like one of the most efficient receivers in the league. Amon Ross St. Brown, 125 plus. I know we just talked about Jameson, but Amon Ross St. Brown, Noonan said on the other show, Alante Taylor allowing the most receiving yards in the league. I'm pretty sure out out of the slot. Amon Rossi Brown spends almost all of his time there, so should absolutely crush here.

Tua, 325 plus. I mean, doesn't get any better than that. I don't know, Tyreek or Jalen Waddle, like I wanted to include them, but one of them is going to have 150 yards. I don't know which one, maybe both. They both would have 100 last week. They both did last week.

I mean, just cannot get a better match against Washington. Plays a ton of man, plays a ton of cover one, and they're just going to get absolutely shredded. And then the last two year, A.J. Brown, 125-plus. I think great bounce-back spot here. You know, again, actually this time, I know we said this last week, but actually I think this is a good spot. And then the last one, Adam Thielen, 9-plus receptions. We already talked about it, but Thomas Brown passed the ball way more,

like 7% more pass rate, 8% more pass rate over expectation. Thielen, great matchup against Tampa Bay, who blitzes a ton. He's like their primary target against the blitz. So I think all of those five are fun. They're interesting. I mean, again, don't put a lot of money on this,

but you can win. I think my parlay was like 25 bucks from like a hundred thousand or something like that with all those five. And then I round Robin. So again, we're here to have fun, but I think that all of those that is individuals,

two or three of them are for sure going to hit. And if we get lucky, maybe all five do. So do we have any like prices for three bees when you round Robin? Like, are we? Well, it doesn't tell you

what the individual prices are for each because each price is different on the five legs. You just got to trust and fire in, you in you know whatever it is and it'll spit out all the different slips and you'll go from there but they're all like plus 300 to plus 500 um individual yeah individuals yeah yeah oh man i love new wrinkles connor uh these are overs which i think is an important thing to like specify too because this is not connor's specialty okay having me around is helping yeah the discord chat was

worried about my health because i played i think three or four overs this week and you know they're like slop rubbing off on you i was like no like i'm just sick of losing these sweaty ass unders and you know i just gotta stay and i like a lot of the spots this week you know like i didn't really like a lot of spots last week i like you know a couple of the different spots this week yeah i'd like to tackle unders too it's not our chat doesn't know what's going on look i make jokes but i mean it really depends on the week to be honest with you like sometimes someone like you know what i mean it's like man i could just spray the board with overs you know what i mean but at the same time like there are times when like you're looking at you like i would never take this over jake lewis i see this this this uh the chat what do you think

about rain there do we care oh no no way rain which game which one washington miami oh um honestly on no winds there's almost no wind. No wind. Yeah. And it's a chance of rain. Look at it like 50, 53% chance of rain. So whereas like Pittsburgh is definitely raining, uh, the jets, it looks like it's definitely raining. So a little bit further North, um, should be getting a little bit like new England's going to rain, but yeah, it's like five mile an hour winds.

I'm not super worried about it to be honest. It just doesn't matter that much generally, unless it's like five mile an hour winds i'm not super worried about it to be honest it just doesn't matter that much generally unless it's like pouring and like it has to be like pouring pouring and have some wind other than that like it's just like statistically i haven't found anything that matters and like obviously you'll see a guy like you know i think last week dalton kincaid had one like you know biff through his hands there against the Eagles where it was raining pretty heavily. But the rest of the game, Josh Allen was absolutely fire. He was spinning the ball through the rain. And even Jalen Hurts, after he woke up in the second half, fired off 200 passing yards in the second half.

I don't know. I just don't think – I haven't really been around enough where unless it's absolutely monsoon, it just doesn't really matter that much like giants cowboys remember week one i think it was week one remember that game was national tv this year it's pouring down rain it's cowboys still drop 40 on them yeah right also jeff good point dolphins love water good spot that's a valid such a good point i actually have never seen a dolphin not in water you know so there is that yeah oh my jeff just just coming in and hitting dingers today absolutely out of his mind he's awesome absolutely love it jeff all right slop floor is yours sir if

you want to get a little bit uh wonky here and right, so I'm nowhere near as wild as Connor, but this is just as wild in a way because I'm very, very, very tempted. I've already gotten 250-plus, but I'm very tempted to do 275-plus on Russell Wilson's passing yards. It's plus 360 at FanDuel right now. But man, all right, so he's a total situation guy. All right, this is my sales pitch, right? Total situation.

Like he could literally end up with a buck 20. So I am acknowledging that. But what I will say is I don't know that the Broncos go to Houston and just run the ball the whole day on the Texans and just get out of there throwing the ball 20 times. I think, to be honest with you, I think the Texans are kind of pissed about what happened last week. I do believe in Stroud.

I think he hangs points all over the Broncos. I think the Broncos are then going to be forced to play ball, throw it a little bit here. He's gone 300-plus twice this year. The one time was when they got boat raced by Miami. It was like 70-20. And then there was another time. I think it was like the next week or whatever.

So, I mean, he has done this. He's gone 250 against the Vikings when they couldn't run the ball against the Vikings defense. I just don't think they can run the ball on the Texans. And, again, I think they get behind. But it is Russell Wilson. But I'm locked in already for 250. I think you can go as high as 275.

I think this could happen. I don't think this is that crazy. Although I would have something ready to roll because you'll probably know pretty early if this is not going to happen. You know what I mean? On the 1 o'clock, so you're probably going to want to have another 1 o'clock game. Yeah, no, Brian, dude, I think their run defense is actually good. Yeah.

They get Denzel Perryman back from suspension too, like linebacker there. I think it's Russ. We've talked about Russ. We went in depth in this game on the game preview show on Wednesday. Russ is check downs or chucking it deep. You know, you need to hit one or two of those deep shots. You are cooking with gas here with slop, and you're not even needing to get to 300 yards.

Well, 300 is plus 640. Again, he's done this twice in this type of situation. I think he's a product of his environment. You know what I mean? He's not the guy that's just going to go in and get to 300. But if he has to, he can. I think he's going to have to. Yeah.

I think Ben added too that from Capwise, he's saying that he was eyeing Russ Overs, but he also mentioned to me about Marvin Mimss alts and like you know things like that i feel like every week we make a case for it and maybe it's time i don't know i mean maybe today's the day it it could be today is he gonna play though i heard he has like some sort of ailment and i heard he was talking not trash but like he said something on the sideline to a fan saying he doesn't throw it to me or something like that. And you're just like, ooh, like I wonder how Russ takes that.

Does Russ throw it to him now? Like what happens now? That's true. Yeah, I mean, Russ, big Bible guy too. I'm pretty sure complaining is not allowed in the Bible. So it seems like an L for Marvin Mims. But forgiveness though is. So, you know, it's all about forgiveness. I might have to brush up on the Bible. So it seems like an L for Marvin Mims. But forgiveness though is. So, you know, it's all about forgiveness.

I might have to brush up on the Bible. I might start reading the Bible and figure out if Marvin Mims is going to get targets this week. Yeah. That is the natural progression, right? Read the Bible, figure out whether or not Marvin Mims breakout week is this week.

Basically, while you're reading the Bible, I need to figure out if Marvin Mims is going to get targets. And that's a conversation ender right there. You know what I mean? That conversation is over. That's what people get when they tune into the show is your commitment to go the extra mile to make sure that you're – it doesn't mean the play is going to hit.

But that means that the play, like you just really – it's your sample of approval. You really validate it with doing the work. So that's why – I read the Bible. Like I know what's going to happen. 66 books in that thing. Quick scan over the weekend. Let us know what you find

and we'll follow up with subscribers. Daniel in chat wants to know our favorite game for a same game parlay. We danced around it. Slop's a little bit worried. Sometimes you just got to keep it simple, stupid.

And this game with the dolphins who love water are playing against the commanders who are absolutely terrible from a past defense standpoint, like absolutely awful. Here's what we're going to do. Look, we already mentioned we're gonna start same game parlay you can do this on draft kings um i saw it just before the show 23 to 1 uh tyreek and wattle both to go over 100 yards both did it last week against the jets uh again

now we get arguably the worst past in the league uh they've allowed the highest rate of explosive plays in the season teams are averaging 7.57 adjusted net yards per attempt against the commanders. No other team is higher than seven. I think the next is like 6.9. So like, you know, we talk about the chargers being pretty bad.

Like the buck secondary is pretty bad. The commanders pretty much take the cake. You know, they have a lot of injuries in the secondary. It's bad. It's not, it's not good there. So we're to go Tyreek and Waddle for the first two legs,

both over 100. And you can take Tyreek, obviously, up even a little bit higher if you want. He's been doing that fairly regularly. Tua over his 283.5, 282.5, which he's done 7 of 11 times this season. I've been to a 7-11. That feels like it matters matters i feel like that's relevant here they're always open and again i want to like make sure that we clarify this is a full game same game parlay yeah so you're hearing this and you're like this is the first it's a it's a

full gamer um now we're gonna go to the other side sam howell over 30 and a half passing attempts uh he's at least 42 and six straight we should probably be betting sam howell over 30 and a half passing attempts just as a straight number um because this seems to be something that he's doing quite frequently uh again 42 in six straight games uh pay a little bit of juice there for sam howell over 30 and a half and then here's where we get a little bit wonky this is why we have to do it on draft kings we can't do it on DraftKings. We can't do it on FanDuel because FanDuel does not currently have any reception numbers for Antonio Gibson.

But Antonio Gibson over two and a half receptions is my final, fifth and final leg here. He's topped us in four straight. I had just three last week against Dallas, but in the previous three games, he had at least five receptions. He took over all the long down and distance stuff last week uh zero long down and distance snaps for b rob last week so

gifts is going to get some check downs in this game over two and a half receptions is the fifth leg again draft kings 23 to one five leggers very straightforward very simple no touchdowns involved if you want to throw in touchdowns, it's just not my thing typically. Yeah, you can get down in here. A big slurpy guy, Jeff, yeah. You can give me a half cherry, half blue raspberry. Maybe you get a green apple slurpy in there occasionally. I'm good for a big soda guy.

Cola and a cherry. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, cherry yeah cherry cola that's a fire that's how i rolled you go cola first on the bottom cherry in the middle and then go back on top of the cola because i wasn't allowed to mix them for whatever reason my mom would get pissed so i would just i'd do that okay but you're more of an icy icy guy what's that i'm more of an icy guy okay i'll do slurpees if i have to yeah yeah. I mean, hey, when you're in the spot, you know what I mean? You got to do what you got to do. Yeah.

Slop was probably a menace as a child, dude. He was probably just out there terrorizing families. It wasn't fun, man. For me, it was. I think that's the origin of Slop. I've got four daughters, and it's all coming back. Full circle of life happening right now in my house. Slop, is it true that the origin of Florida Man

is about you and your youth? It could be. It could be. Those were my influences. So I'm saying not my fault. You know what I mean? Like you grow up with Florida Man, like that's just, that's your neighbor.

You know what I mean? So it is what it is. I've seen a lot of you out there at 7-Eleven too. Like this is amateur hour. And some of you are going at 7-Eleven too. This is amateur hour. And some of you are going to be like, yeah, of course. Why would you do it any other way? But you go to a Slurpee machine, you'll see people just grab the cup and start filling it up.

You put the lid on first, people. You put the lid on. It secures it in there. And you get all the way to the top. Now, you've got to back up a little bit because sometimes it expands a little bit at the end. You don't want to be the guy having to wipe down the entire station because you couldn't understand how much Slurpee actually goes in the cup. So slow down. It's like pouring a soda.

You've got a little bit of the head that comes in like in tapping a beer. Back off a little bit, see what you've got, and then go back in there and top it off. Don't just go raw dog with the cup to the machine and just start filling it up. Use protection. Thank you. This is good. Yeah. This is important life advice right here.

The majority of our listeners are going to be like, absolutely. People will know. What you want to do too, as soon as you start putting it in the cup, you slam everything. The first part you put in, you drink that. Then you put the rest. Like that's just how it – I mean, come on. Yeah.

And you tap it down too. Like, you know, let it settle a little bit too. Be smart. Again, a lot of you are like, hey, this is so obvious. But I've seen it too many times over the years where I'm just like – It's kids, man. It's kids. They were raised wrong, and it's it's bad yeah and we're

seeing that in the demographics a lot of kids watching this show we want to make sure that they it is kids though yeah i mean you probably just changed the kid's life if someone didn't know that their parents are probably telling i mean you change generations this is gonna have a butterfly effect on america here you know this is this is pretty wild stuff well we can hope yeah yeah look i mean and don't go on 7-eleven for the free three ounce slurpee either like don't don't be no offense i'm sorry it's like a dollar right like it's so cheap yeah you're gonna wait 12 deep for three ounces of free slurpee like just can you just go on the 12th or the 10th uh yeah i mean it's just why i did that as a kid though not gonna lie or as a teenager

because i was like oh free anything and i would you know you'll find me there and uh have since grown out of that yeah i'm still kind of a freeze for me god it depends on how much is free you know what i mean like what is it like but i'll i'll pretty much take anything like especially if it's food i'll like whatever i used to go to like bj's just for the samples i mean i had a membership for the samples so i haven't seen these here in the Midwest. I saw better if you still see him in the East Coast. You see What are they it's like a dog it's um The dog is the brand we're in the same premise of uh of like slurpee ice slush puppies slush puppies

No, I don't see much. I've heard of that. It sounds like. Yeah, whatever they get at Cumberland Farm. I think those are icies. That's what my daughter likes. Yeah. I don't think those are slush puppies. I don't know.

Okay. Shout out, cumbies. Big world out there. Yeah. Yeah. Slush puppies are good. There's a little bit more juice. The ice is a little bit more.

It's a little bit larger chunks of ice. It's not as grainy like a Slurpee is. Real sugar. I'll still get them, but they definitely kind of suck. They're not great. There's a reason why they didn't move up

with inflation. You couldn't. You know what I mean? That's worth about $1.25. That's about it. ICs, though, Elite, is significantly better than carbon IC. Connor, back to you. We talked about props. I'm sorry about that, folks.

I have no idea. I don't know how we got here. What's this show about? Connor, I know you got poached just before. That's tough, too. We try to save some stuff for the show so we can ensure that we have live, fresh stuff. you got poached just before And you know that's tough too you know we try to save some stuff For the show so we can ensure that we have You know live fresh stuff Conor got poached with one of his plays But back to you Conor I don't know what else you have

For us you want to kick around yeah I mean I'll just I talked about or what you want to do Well we can talk about that too but I do I'm going to just Tell the play anyways I'm not going to release it officially But because it's like juice to the you know Max so it's going to be David Montgomery Over 13 and a half rush attempts because it's like juice to the max. So it was going to be David Montgomery over 13 and a half rush attempts. And it was like minus one 35 minus one 32 at like Caesars builder. Uh, it's now 14 and a half minus one 57 at Caesars. Uh, and it's minus one 22,

14 and a half at, at FanDuel minus one 50 still at DK. Honestly, I still think that's fine. Like I, I have been, you know, furiously still betting it like at that price, because I don't see the saints pushing the lions here. Montgomery has gone over this number in every single, he's 15 plus carries in every single game outside of games where they like fell behind or they're like passing a bunch or he got injured.

It's like seven of nine games where he wasn't injured. He went over this number. So yeah, I just think that this number is like way, way too low. Like they're going to run the ball a bunch and golf has been just like giving the ball away. Like it's his job. Like it would not surprise me at all to see them run the ball like 35 times in this game. Um, and then throw down Monroe the rest. So, you know, I think that like, I think that's still a good look. 13 and a half, 14 and a half is honestly still a consideration. I just, uh, it's one of those

things like a value proposition I lost out there. Any thoughts on that one, Noonan or Slop? I like the premise. You got Slop, go for it. I think the Saints can kind of score a little bit on Detroit after last week. I mean, last week's a tough game for the Lions to kind of judge anything on because the fumbles by Goff just ruined that game for any you know like just destroyed the game so that part's up for me but I'm gonna be looking at some Saints receivers once they come out I think Alavi

might not play I think Shahid might like they're they're gonna be thin Thomas is already out so maybe your guy Perry would be somebody to think about. You love him, right, Connor? Bobby Bigwell's brought it up already. I mean, these are fresh wounds, guys. I mean, A.T. Perry is unbelievably bad. Like, how bad do you have to be to run a route on 80% of the plays? Five guys get to 20 yards. This guy caught one pass.

He saw two targets. Like, I mean, you put Devontae Parker out there. He's probably seeing six targets. I mean you can cover parker and i can cover him you know with me out there like i mean i could have covered at perry last weekend he still wouldn't have caught 20 yards he did nothing i mean it was crazy i was oh i was tilting my face off every single pass i see him run he's just running wind sprints got some nice cardio in but. But if you're going to do that, just go to the gym, buddy. You don't need to be on the field. I'm going to hold out hope. So the one thing I'm looking at in that game would be a guy like Perry.

But again, I can't do anything right now because we don't have any lines for anybody. We don't know about Olave. Is he going to be out of the protocol? We don't know if Shahid, is he not going to play? Because I don't think he practiced at all. don't know if i'm living boden what's that you lynn boden he was seeing targets routinely underneath like either moving around again we got to know the receivers before we look at that but i think there is definitely meat on that bone once we get there and then i'm gonna go for my last one i don't know if it's my

turn or not but it is i mean i think it's making your turn that's fine we're all friends but uh i'm gonna say look for elijah moore once you get the number i bet you it's two and a half juiced up go to four receptions on him uh all right the first three games of last season he he played with Joe Flacco, targeted seven, five, and nine times. I mean, they've touched hips. We already talked about it before, probably multiple times. So, dude, four catches, not a lot, not a lot at all. The Rams don't have a secondary to speak of. Again, Flacco is going to need to throw to somebody,

and I bet you it's a guy that he's touched tips with before but four four should be plus money and like go keep that in mind like i'm not saying we're doing four like over three and a half for like minus 150. i mean it's got to be like plus 110 plus 120 but i bet you you're going to get a number like that when that comes out and it'll probably come out tonight once as soon as they say flacco's starting, which I think – I mean, judging by the fact that they already have receiving yards numbers out, the receptions are next. So we should get that soon. But I'm going to bet that.

You have my word. I mean, you're going to do it. It's going to be a guy you try to start a fire with before. And I think there's something to work and take a look at there. So I want to touch real quick on the Saints too before. So a lot of it, yeah, still in concussion protocol. Olave was going bonkers last week in that game. And if Olave's playing against a, I think,

a Lions secondary that we don't really believe in that was routinely torched by big plays last week against Green Bay, Olave should be a six-leg in Connors, round-robin, round Robin alts over parlay. He'll go bonkers. I also, first of all, do we have a listener group chat hall of fame because Jeff is in it. I totally agree. This is going to be a Taysom Hill game. I don't know what kind of Taysom Hill props we're going to get, but like we've seen Taysom Hill get like featured as a receiver in games. And I think we're going to see Taysom Hill get involved. So I don't know if we're going to be able to get a Taysom Hill,

like total yards line or something like that. We probably won't. Yeah. I mean, he got dinged up, came back in that game and re-injured it. He's not, yeah,

he's definitely out. So yeah, we have to wait and see what happens there, but I definitely think it's going to be a lot of Taysom Hill involved somehow, whether that's a DFS angle for you or season long. I don't know what we're going to get in the prop market. But yeah, Taysom Hill is going to be prominently involved in this game. But I would love to get Olave.

I like Olave alts would be very, very sexy. I don't think he's going to play, unfortunately, because he so he practiced today on a limited basis, but he's still in the concussion protocol, which means basically tomorrow in practice, he needs to be fully cleared and practice. So it's just like, I mean, it's like it's happened before. It's just tough. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he's playing.

Yeah. No, I know. So that's my issue with the Saints is like, who are they throwing the ball to? Bowden, Kamara, Casey Hill, your boy, A.T. Perry. What about Kamara receiving props? I mean, that's already going to be juiced to the max. Yeah, this is going to be juiced up. Five and a half receptions probably.

Yeah, you're going to get some wild number. I think Bowden might be the sneaky way to go about receptions. I don't know about yards. But I've been waiting all week. After watching the Packers, dude, I'm still sore at Goff for fumbling. Like, he ruined Jordan Love's, like, 350-yard day. Like, he just ruined it. Because, I mean, all those short fields, and now here we go.

You know what I mean? You don't get to do it. That sucked. Did he ruin your Thanksgiving slot? Kind of, but it was so early in the day. I'm used to losing that noon game anyways. It was fine. I'm Battletop.

Like a dump in the gravy right before. Yeah, I had the 4 o'clock game. I had Zach Charbonnet for dessert at 8 o'clock that night. I knew I was going to be fine. But, man, that would have been such a fun hit. See, Marley was pissed. It was crazy. Yeah, don't incite Marley.

Yeah, that's a little cup of Charbonnet. It's good. Did you see how that list? No, I did not. He got four balls in the fourth quarter. He had no targets. I didn't see that. He got four passes in two different drives in the fourth quarter. He had no targets. I didn't see that. In the game, he caught four passes in two different drives in the fourth quarter.

All right. Nice. Big win, Slop. Good call. Hey. All right. It's like golf. No pitchers in the scorecard.

At the end of the day, you got to get there. Last one for me, very basic. I don't have a lot to even say about it. Play the hits. Going back to my guy. This is a, you know, shout out to old school 4-4 subs and rollers. Michael Pittman, over 6.5 receptions. This is readily available.

It's DraftKings minus 115. It's pretty much everywhere in this range. This is just kind of what Michael Pittman does. He actually has eight or more catches in four straight games in eight of 11 games a season. We don't even need him to catch eight in this spot. We just need seven. If you want to go to eight, Caesars, you can get eight plus, plus 135. Titans secondary is not good.

The Colts play fast. There's a lot of play volume. It is a very, very, very truncated target share. It is Pittman and Josh Downs. Downs was a terrible beat last week to like finish at 43 yards when he got 13 targets. I had like 43 yards of the half, basically. It was rough. Anyway, Titans have allowed the third highest completion percentage over expectation. This season, 4.6%. They do not make it hard for you. Pittman gets targeted a ton here again uh we just need to catch seven balls so pitman is my final normal play here for the week uh connor any

thoughts on pitman no i like it you just you know it's just not my vibe to take high over overs uh generally unless i feel like absolutely immaculate about it even then i feel like five and a half is kind of my my max for you know, like a feeling prop. And that dusty fuck just catches balls, you know, and does nothing else with them. So Pittman's got a little juice still. Yeah. Mitchell just pounds him with targets. So, yeah, it's nuts.

Yeah, Fandle, shout out, J-Von, appreciate it. Plus 140 for eight on Fandle. So Fandle even better than the Caesars line. Did not see that earlier today when I look for it so good stuff yeah i mean it's just kind of not super exciting it's just he's getting a lot of work so let's uh let's let's go there so uh some defensive stuff you know you guys are are vultures this is what happened a little it's happening in the chat a little bit this is what's happening in the chat it's happening in the show too because i'll get i'll put out a play i'll put out like a look and then if someone just happens to get to it before that line is moving on me uh before i even get

down on it by giving you guys a little tip so i can give you i'll give you one here watch your whistle a little bit on monday night football we're gonna look for uh logan wilson linebacker for the bangles uh again i don't know what his number is going to be. He did get dinged up a little bit late in that game last week against Pittsburgh. Low ankle sprain. He's already practicing, so I think he's going to be fine. But I think with Browning there, quarterback, don't think there's going to be a lot of ball control on the Cincinnati side.

I think Jacksonville is going to dominate that game. There's going to be a lot of snaps for the Bengals defense in the spot. Bengals are the Jacksonville scorekeeper is nice linebackers against the Jags. The season is going to be, you know, it's been a nice spot. So Logan Wilson unders on the sack side. There's a couple that I like here.

Plus money draft Kings over a quarter quarter sack. So again, you just need a guy getting in the mix getting a half sack uh alex highsmith has been really good like almost as good as tj watt he just hasn't converted into sacks in terms of like pressure rates uh win percentage you get over a quarter of a sack for like i think plus 110 on draft kings uh tim Boyle took, what did he do last week? What did we get? Tim Boyle, seven sacks, 38.9% pressure to sack rate last week.

That's not very good. We can go back to the well on David Onyemata for the Falcons here to get a quarter of a sack for like plus 150. Those are a couple of non-chalky plus money quarter sack looks for us this week. You want the good stuff. You want the actual tackle props. Get into Discord. Go to the website.

Get the betting sub. Super cheap for three months. Show notes for more details. But yeah, the subscribers will get the tackles this week. You guys, you know, I put some stuff out last week. I think I put out a tipped line and I didn't even get there. And all of a sudden it's already moving. So shout out Sam.

Sam C. Appreciate it, buddy. 90 people watching, only 21 thumbs up. I mean, what are we doing? Smash the like button. We just gave you 10 minutes of life advice on Slurpees, Icy's, Slush Puppies. The Bible. The Bible.

Yeah, sword fights. I i mean what are we doing here that's brian that's logan wilson over probably depending on what it is so yeah it's smart i was gonna say not even you know joe rogan's giving you that kind of advice uh you know you can't be getting that kind of he would not dare to talk about icies on his podcast absolutely not no um all right well i think we can go through some questions thoughts or like things here i got a bunch of them queued up um so meg gandhi brought it up and he he shoots me these uh slops gonna hate him they're like alt under parlays but he like brings these like shitty quarterbacks up instead of like under. So like he sent me like two garbage quarterbacks under like two 25 passing yards. They both hit, of course. So this week he's saying boil under one 99 Ritter under two 24 minus one 10 is a smash.

Honestly, can't disagree. Uh, he's been doing that. Yeah. It's a great one. Um, I just, the game's just so ugly. No matter what you think think about it i think because it's a parlay slop has to at least somewhat kind of like it i wouldn't take either one of those guys over so there's that there you go um all right working back from the top here slop uh candor said it's not the only time that you finished with 299 when you needed 300. uh brutal brutal comment about your bowling success there. I was right there, man. I was right there again. And I was at the bowling alley last night too. So it was the same place.

Back to the scene of the crime. Just a different $2.99 to really hurt my feelings. So what do we do? This is kind of the premise of the show this week. What do we do with eating? Do you eat while you bowl? No. No, no, no, no, no.

You got to eat first. So it then starts on nine. All right. So like I got kids. So like we eat at like five o'clock. So I'll eat sometimes twice. You know what I mean? Before I go.

But yeah, you won't eat there. You get oil on your hands. It just, it messes up the vibe. Some guys do eat though, but they are not guys that are, you know, challenging for any type of awards. Interesting. Yeah, that's fair. I, I have eaten at a bowling alley and I can say my bowling game is not very good. So that adds up. Sam C is not a believer in your tech things.

He said over under nine minutes, but it looks like we are way past that. 52 minutes without tech issues. Shout out to the new tech lord, Ryan Noonan. Congrats there, Jeff. We talked about Nick Folk, over one and a half field goals made. Yeah, sure, why not? Jake Lewis, Tyreek to the moon. I want to give a quick shout out to Jake, who has been harassing me about the show for a while,

and he's never made a YouTube account, and never commented on any of our shows, but watched every single one. So I told him to comment, and I would put them on the screen. So there you go, Jake. Let's see here. We talked about Jameson last time we took KB under it. Pretty sure it cashed. Definitely. Sam C also another backside here. The Kia was stolen with the USB drive. This is true. My, my car was a Hyundai, but it was also stolen still it was stolen with the USB drive uh in Chicago uh in January so yeah Sam can't believe you remember that but yes positive yes I had a Hyundai so yeah it's it's the Kia boys though it's like this group of people who

steal cars with USB drives because there's a way if you rip off the console you just stick like an Apple charger in there you can start the car oh really i do i wish i knew that yeah pop yourself a new kia yeah they well they just drive them around and then leave them like trashed so that's the thing it's like oh kind of like um and the other guys dirty mike and the boys yeah yeah make a soup kitchen exactly thankfully there was not a soup kitchen. Exactly. Thankfully, there was not a soup kitchen when I found my car, but it was pretty well totaled, so that was good. Kevin O'Brien added Stroud 350 plus, Russell Wilson 300 plus. We think the game gets hot, 35 to 1.

Dude, that ain't crazy. I've made worse bets for sure. 35 to 1, I think that's a pretty solid look. Ryan Jeffrey, 13 and a half ESPN still at minus one 30. Um, yeah, I'm David Montgomery's carries. I think that's a great look. Minus one 30. I was going to release that, but I don't know. ESPN bet. Some people have already been limited. Some people are more than fine. Uh, I've been losing a lot there lately, which is good. So my, my lifeline has been extended for a little bit. Yeah, no, it's been,

it's been kind of awesome actually. At least I can tell myself that I'm losing. Right. Yeah. I never had a barstool account, but they do, they do have alts on tackles too, which is really nice for us. I've been kind of doing what Meg was doing. When I have a, like a unders lean on tackles, I'll like take a, I'll take it a little bit higher and go under and maybe parlay a couple of those legs together and yeah, it makes

it a little bit easier to stomach. So yeah. Anyway, why not yeah uh jeff slop is the definition of a bowling alley drunk jesus they're coming for you uh damn hey i think that's a that's a heat check right there just feeling himself he's had some good ones that's a heat check right there he's pulling up from 40 feet that's a compliment where i'm from, from Florida. This needs to be the show mantra. Don't raw dog at 7-Eleven and don't eat while you bowl. That's a pretty good life advice there. If you take anything away from the show, it should probably be that. Yeah, you should put that on a hoodie.

Honestly. Yeah, I'll put it on a hoodie. Let's see here. Store. BrianAndrew.com. You can hit up Luis. I mean, it can't be any worse than the Move the Line shirts that were just like a plain white tee that literally had black letters, just move the line.

It was, I mean, the ugliest shirt that I think has ever been made in 4-4 history. So not shout out to Luis. I used it to clean the rims on my car. Yeah, it's become a rag, I think, in my house. Like we're just like tore it up and it's in the rag bin. Breeze receptions, yards,

alts after last week, slop, any take on that? Cause I mean, captain Timmy, you know, I was just checking it down all game. I don't,

I don't totally mind that at all. Like that might be, that might be a move. It's just, it's too soon for me. That was just like a week ago that we had to watch that so i'm not really ready to go back to the tim train but maybe strong maybe yeah i think you'll be able to get a pretty good live betting opportunity so what happened was tim boyle played like absolute

dog shit for like 90 in the game but then at the end of the game when the game was over he like teams just played like they just played like prevent and just let him check down the entire game. So wait, don't bet that yet. And then why bet the shit out of Brees receptions and alts in game? Even Dalvin cook. I think receptions will be fine because Brees is kind of banged up too. It seems like he's like, I think, but questionable. So I think that's interesting as well.

Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were a little lucky. My wifi is bugging out here. I don't know. Maybe it's a me issue.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're coming for you now. Next up, buddy. Sorry.

The curse. I think you're back though. I think you're good. Yeah. You're good yeah you're good all right anyways i think newton you can lead us to glory now right uh at the end of the show are you is your your tech good to go tech's good to go i just don't have uh you know this new computer i'm not signed into the uh i have an account but i'm not signed into the 444 account, so I can't pull this up. There we go. Brian wants to know, Trevor Simeon.

Yeah. Or no, this is what happened here. Oh, the stolen car, the golf course. You're talking about your stolen car. I forget. Yeah, that was a great vacation story. Yeah, good times. Let's see.

Jeff wants to talk about it. We got Brian at ESPN. You can pop him up and i'll read him from you yeah you're saying uh grade one of the carries is a half and it'll push because uh he's talking about the parlay that espn bet did uh where one of the legs pushed and avoided the entire parlay it was like a hundred thousand dollars or twenty thousand dollars something like that um so yeah maybe don't bet uh crazy parlays on espn because if that happens to you legally they don't have to pay you i mean it's like in their terms and conditions just

no other book operates like that because they're not pieces of shit so you know hey it's their decision to continue operating like that and be scumbags and i know we have some relationship with them but whatever they're not show sponsor so it'll be fun yeah i mean like so props you're gonna get the half legs you're not gonna get a lot of pushes uh it was like a there was a side right like a minus three push in there so you know don't bet sides and totals like you're fine or sides you know eliminate pushes anyway so um all right let's see here we only have a couple more meg let's see here favorite non-alt a couple more. Meg. Let's see here. Favorite non-alt under parlay is Gibbs over 12.5 rush.

Lions puree have been down last few weeks. New Orleans is top five explosive run rate allowed, and Gibbs hit in last five of five a longest rush. I'm assuming that's what he's talking about, over 12.5. That's a good look. 12.5 seems light. Mm-hmm. I like it. I like the work here, meg meg's doing some uh doing some dean so yeah i like that some explosive plays in that game i think for sure

i got a dome game we have a bunch of rain and weather possibly so you know i want to keep golf in the dome small tiny hands keep him working yeah no 100 all right cool i think we went through basically everything unless you want to talk about jeff's kicker prop so i feel like jeff has you know consumed most of the show here so about zero line over one and that field goals um we're just gonna have to trust jeff here yeah do you want to talk about the uh the under we were looking at before the show yep yeah before we log off here uh Slop, you're not going to want this one, buddy. You're most. You're most, yeah.

Van Jefferson, under 10.5 receiving yards. Thoughts, Slop? He's not going to play. He's like maybe 5, 10 snaps. Matt Collins is back. They're going to throw the ball 20 times, 25 times. I mean, he's playing against the Jets who are really good. He's probably going to run 60%, 70% of his whatever,

10 routes on the outside. So he had basically three chances to catch a ball. Like literally has three chances to catch a pass. Probably the entire game. 10 and a half like that's the part that like just kills me it's like but i mean at the same time atlanta's not really a place you go if you want to play by receiver so the jets aren't a team you attack tack overs. No. I mean, I – This guy's going to be playing behind Scotty Miller, Darryl Hodge, Matt Collins.

Is there an alt under? There is an alt under on ESPN. Under four and a half. Yeah, just do that then. Plus 180 or something like that. Oh, that's money. That's a way better play because we're already basically betting on one catch. I was just looking it up in the middle of the show just in case or something like that. Oh, that's money. That's a way better play because we're already basically betting on one catch anyway.

I was just looking it up in the middle of the show just in case because I'm like, wait a second, ESPN probably has that bet. Yeah, it's the same premise. Yeah, under 4.5, I guess, plus 180. Plus 180 when he catches it. The only issue is he's going to catch like a nine-yard pass. You can take under longest 9.5, slop. Cover yourself.

Oh, there we go. I'm all covered up on my van jefferson prop yeah it's it's ugly i i was talking to connor before the show this is the most connor answer ever my connor i got a connor allen special i'm not going to play necessarily but i'm talking on the show i want to get your reaction live. I want to see Slop's face. We talk about an under 10 and a half. I tell Connor about it because he lost a day of a Montgomery play. I wanted to see if he wanted it. And, of course, Connor responds with like, oh, no, I've been looking at that.

Like, no, of course you've been looking at that. I'm thinking like, oh, I got this gem that Connor hasn't seen. For the lowest possible numbers on everybody, and then that's where he starts his unders. He's like, that's how i'm gonna start my research i go for the lowest numbers then look to take every one of them under until he finds like a handful that he's ready for i'm pretty sure that's how he does it because there's no way other explanation for how he finds these it is 100 i do well i started from the top on thursday and wound up with dac under and uh i mean look how that turned out you know like, like heading against good players is no fun.

Yeah. Just hit the button to sort one more time and you're all set. Yeah. It was a rookie mistake on my end. Won't happen again. This week we got. I do literally the opposite, bro. Like I literally, I'll go to the lowest numbers and look to take them over.

Like that's literally what I do all the way up the board. And that's how I look at things that's hilarious man what a full show you know i look like a movie star we talked to you about you know raw dogging at 7-eleven uh you don't put your greasy fingers in a bowling ball that's not yours uh you know don't prevent your car from getting stolen by a USB, you know, all these things that we're teaching you here, that is just very unique to the prop drop. So,

now wrap this up for this week. Dirty Mike and the boys. Shout out to dirty Mike and the Kia boys for stealing my car and giving me a fat insurance check. And that was very nice. Slop. What do people need to know about Odds Jam on the way out here?

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Good stuff as always. We appreciate it. We'll be back next week. Let's win some money this week. Let's go. Jamo. We've got a little, I can see we get,

maybe is that a little a Sandlot coming in the background? Producer Sal, shout out to Sal. Absolutely killing it. Look at that. So good. Move the Sandlot. You got the logo on everything damn sal sal just absolutely crushing

oh love it's good stuff as always for producer sal for connor and slop i'm ryan we'll see y'all next time thanks everybody Thank you. you