Move The Line - Expert NFL Week 6 Player Prop Bets! | Top Picks, Predictions & Odds

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 hello and welcome to move the line prop drop show presented by draft king's sportsbook i'm ryan noon back let's talk about the best way the most profitable way to bet on nfl football and that is through player props here with my friends connor allen john high slop we are live 3 p.m eastern every friday on the four44Bets YouTube channel. And you can find the podcast wherever you listen to podcasts later in the day. But you want to get on YouTube. You want to watch us. It's on Twitter now as well.
Starting point is 00:00:31 This is where you want to be. You want the best chance to get the live number, same number, same price. YouTube place is where you want to be. Come check us out. Connor, what's going on, buddy? Coming off of a red hot 10-1 last week. Is that correct? 10-1?
Starting point is 00:00:44 10-1. It's my best week publicly ever, like by a lot, like not even close. Um, and so it was in honor of slops 300 bowling week, I believe, uh, last year or like two 99 or whatever it ended up being.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Um, that's why like I had to get up, you know, to make sure that I could compete with slops to 99. Like, like him, you know, I,
Starting point is 00:01:02 I fell one, one play short, one short done.iel jones um you know apparently doesn't need bleak neighbors he's got derry slayton so i mean why you know well why haven't they been doing this all along who knows but apparently derry slayton is just the man and so daniel jones can rip for 250 um that under was busted very very quickly yeah crazy week awesome uh glad for the subscribers because i was on the other side of it the last couple weeks so yeah they're just chasing you know connor stuff is where you want to be you're
Starting point is 00:01:32 gonna get back on the on the winning track this week slop what's going on with you bud i'm just living the dream it disgusts me to hear that so many overs or so many unders did so well last week i'm glad the subscribers did well. That's awesome. I did great on the 1 o'clock, so it was the 4 o'clock that got me. I think I had the Trey Tucker guy, not great, and then somebody else later on. But, yeah, but the 1 o'clock was awesome, so that's good. And I don't know. I think I'm good this week, though.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I found two that I know for a fact are going to hit. So that's good. But you know, as always, the more we dive in, the more we'll find. You know, it's actually got me thinking too. It's a good idea. On top of our attempts to win a million dollars for us and our subscribers, really
Starting point is 00:02:20 with the intention of shutting down a sports book, which would be wild. We should also just parlay, because I feel really good about mine this week too. So I feel like we're already four for four. Connor's coming off of a 10-1 week. How can we not feel good about Connor's plays? We should also, on top of our Millie parlay,
Starting point is 00:02:36 just kind of be parlaying all of ours as well, right? I mean, that seems like such an easy layup. Literally. I mean, we're not going to win a million off of it, but, you know, here we are so get something get something something's better than nothing i've been told so every day it is yeah we we we hit that uh the conklin one in our milli parlay last week and i was like oh we're winning a milli yeah man that was um guys i mean hats off to me for that that was so that was a great call i mean it was
Starting point is 00:03:03 just incredible that was an awesome call. We could have gotten one more, but they didn't give us the – I think he got an extra one, did he? Oh, wait, no, he got six. I took him for five. That's what happened. Okay. Yeah, it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah, we were chasing the ceiling outcome for Amari Cooper. Amari was one of the wins for Connor last week. Though, like, if you guys watched any of that game, it just looked like that was the first time those two dudes have thrown the ball around together like that's probably deshaun more than anything but it was it was pretty rough so amari let us down 60 on the on the nose too though for all the people that had 60 i thank god like he got that pretty early too to not get another ball like that those are like the worst way to lose almost happened like kettle with kettle last night at 49 so everybody with 50 plus was just like dude please catch another ball like come on don't do this but yeah so he was kind of there it's my point i didn't mean to interrupt
Starting point is 00:03:54 but he was no shade like he was he got there on the 60 plus just all the latter guys yeah deshaun watson that was his fault though not amari yeah i mean the binary prop is 49 and a half which is crazy low considering how he was peppered with targets against that defense but yeah absolutely abysmal we'll get back on the wagon this week and maybe we'll look to parlay the plays we have as well want to remind folks that this is your best shot to get all these plays they're going into our discord moments before to our subscribers at 444. So if there's a chance you're watching the show, you're watching live, you're ready to go, you jump in by the time
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Starting point is 00:05:21 So great stuff. Check it out again. Let us know if you have any questions, information there in the show notes. All right, Connor, 10 and one. I start with you anyway, but I mean, how can I not start with you coming off of a 10 and one week?
Starting point is 00:05:34 I do think there's an over in the card at some point this week too, but I'll let you do whatever you want to do first to probably start with an under. Floor is yours. Yeah, got to start with an under, but it's kind of like an over in a sense too. So this is like,
Starting point is 00:05:46 I think slot might like this. So I'm playing Mike Evans under four and a half receptions. It's minus one 14. The fan dual is the best number. Um, so Evans draws his buddy, Marshawn Lattimore this week, squared off 12 times in his career.
Starting point is 00:05:58 He's fewer than five receptions in 10 of those 12 matchups. The two that he went over was 2017 and 2018 beyond the tough matchup. Bucks are facing off against Spencer Rattler, Spencer Rattler, fifth round pick, uh, not a very good player. I'm surprising to most.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I already played his under as well, but, I just can't imagine them pushing the bucks here. So I think we're going to see a little bit lower volume. The total is 41, probably gonna be a lot of running on both sides here. I'm interested in some Bucky Irving, you know, overs as well, potentially when, when those drop. Um, but I'm betting the over on how often Marshawn Lattimore breaks up passes or defends Mike Evans. Well, you know, that's how you got to think about it.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Sloppy. I like Mike Evans under four and a half perceptions again, like he can buy into the two, three, four, maybe it's a long one. Like he did in like one of those games a couple years ago. Uh, just doesn't seem likely that he sees, you know, five, six, seven, uh, catches here in this one in a tough spot with like less volume. Yeah. Always one of the better, uh, cornerback wide receiver duos to match up with and watch here. Uh, slop. I don't know how you try to sell us on this being an over somehow. Yeah. This isn't over. I mean, I like the commitment to sell us on this being an over somehow. Yeah. It's like an over. I'm trying to figure out how this is an over. I mean, I like the commitment to it. Here's what I'll say.
Starting point is 00:07:09 No offense to any sub here, okay? But, like, I hope Spencer Rattler goes 350 on these dudes just for all the hate. Like, come on, man. Like, he's probably not good. But I'm just saying it's his first game ever. He's inside. He's nothing to lose, man. He's probably not good, but I'm just saying it's his first game ever. He's inside. He's nothing to lose, dude. I hope we see just – because the Bucs, they're not great defending the pass.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I mean, we just saw them give up 500 yards passing. Just saying. I don't think it's going to happen, though. I mean, that's just hope. That's not like reality. That's probably not gonna happen but i would die the haters let the haters get some of this what if spencer's good we need another quarterback in this league we do and did you bet his alts i bet i feel like that would be
Starting point is 00:07:56 i will not bet him there's no chance i'm doing maybe saturday night though because like we're going out. Spencer, 300 plus 900? But, yeah, I don't know. The under there is the play. I wouldn't take the over just because of the guy. He could get thrown out of the game in the first quarter for taking a swing of this dude. So, I mean, there's so many outs with this.
Starting point is 00:08:19 You have an extra out with that, you know what I mean? And then the fact that Latimer's good. What's the name latimore yeah so like the running aspect of it is what kind of gets me like the bucks can just run if they want to and they know it it's like that sucks that's gonna ruin that game to be honest with you i was gonna be all over chris alave and then this happened and now nothing yep so i'm kind of hurt and that's why i want Spencer Rattler to go off. To be fair, the Bucs are getting a little healthier too, defensively.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I mean, I just think they're going to blitz a ton. So like, it's going to be like, I mean, maybe Rattler makes a play or two, but I mean, they're going to blitz an amazing amount and they're a little bit healthier. I mean, they did the same thing to Jalen Hurts when he had nobody and he sucked. Like, I mean. Yeah, exactly. And that's the problem. It like i i just i want to bet my heart says rattler 350 plus
Starting point is 00:09:11 but my head says rattler probably won't even throw for a buck 50 slop i was talking to someone else about a different play today and i was like man this seems like something sloppy like like a drake may 200 plus passing yards i know he has no one to throw to but like the number is like 150 or 160 like dude guy's a gunslinger like i took his under on completions again unsurprisingly but i think the yardage is actually like i don't know like they're gonna blitz him a ton like it's all it takes two or three not that crazy you could get um some of those guys with receptions too because there it's going to be right like Hunter Henry or the Polk kid is who Tommy G likes. So, you know, he kind of sold me on him this morning. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I think the Texans kind of started whooping him. Now you got to throw. It doesn't seem like the worst move in the world. But you are betting on a guy that literally – a rookie that has zero offensive line. It's bad. That line is terrible. Yeah, the more appealing play is the Drake May alt rushing stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:18 The scramble rate is really high naturally. It just takes off running, and then it's high as is, 25.5 or whatnot, but just what's 50 plus? know like he just starts running all day i mean no no so one play we just gave you four other plays yeah i was gonna say sorry i kind of went off on a little tangent well yeah i mean so same game back to the spencer ratlift and there was a spencer ratlift comment about like you I just have to feed my guys. Like I just have to throw to Chris Alave all the time. Chris Alave, dude.
Starting point is 00:10:48 It might be kind of like the Watson Amari thing last week where it might just be like super inefficient 12 times for Alave. Yeah, way too much volume. You know what I mean? Like you just, just way too much volume to be like, yeah, this is going under. It's not, it can't. much volume you know what i mean like you just just way too much volume to be like yeah this is going under it's not it can't like when you get peppered with like when did amari get 10 i bet this guy gets 10 yeah alave like why not yeah judy had been getting more i think judy
Starting point is 00:11:19 had one target yeah it was yeah joku went out again early. So, yeah, it was kind of a mess. What do we think Bucky reopens at, Connor? You know, Bucky Irving was at like high 30s, then went down, and then we're kind of basically looking at a game-time decision for Rashad White, if people aren't familiar. Yeah, I bet way too much on those 37s, 38s that were lingering when we saw Rashad White. He's now a game-time decision.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I think even if he plays, we probably see a little bit more Bucky Irving. So I mentioned again, I don't think the new Orleans is gonna get much pushback. So like, I mean, we're talking about 50, 50, I think on the ground here at best for Rashad white, maybe even like 60, 40 for Bucky Irving. Um, I would, if, if, if Rashad white plays, I think we're probably going to see like mid to high forties for Bucky. Um, you know, like, like i don't know maybe 48 to 50 if bucky or if rashad white doesn't play i think we should see like i mean 58 to 60 maybe
Starting point is 00:12:12 maybe higher um and which still might be an over to be honest like i think that just like given what they're going to do bucky's played really well so um yeah i don't know it's interesting yeah i was thinking 62 and a half or something like that in that range if there was no rashad white and like you said probably still probably still a bat so yep uh yeah jump in the chat too if you're hanging out with us uh we'll try to make some time get to as many prop questions as we uh have time for at the end of the show between making uh you know six to seven figure uh winning parlay slips. Slop, what do you got, buddy? Well, I'd say we stay with that Saints-Bucks game.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Let's go. Chris Alave, 60-plus receiving yards, plus 145. I mean, I don't see how this dude doesn't just get peppered with targets. That's for one. I mean, I think it's kind of crazy. I 50 plus so 60 plus is there but i mean it's plus 145 i don't see how that's a problem uh receptions aren't out i'm looking right now as we speak at the board to find out if anyone has receptions because that could be the better way to play them um it looks like the dfs sites have it or like the no big like those type of sites yeah actually my scandal vandal has
Starting point is 00:13:34 over four and a half plus 108 that's a joke he's catching five balls dude like there i mean come on guys like i get that it's vince rattler, but he's just going to lock into this dude. And Olave's coming off a horrible game where he got put in prison by – who was that Chiefs corner – was it McDuffie? All the corner. He did nothing. It was literally Jawan Johnson, no big deal. That was a great Monday night, by the way.
Starting point is 00:14:02 That was a huge win. But it was those guys. They had to use their tight end. They had to the runner they could not throw it to alave like the rashid shaheed everybody else did their work this week is going to be different i think alave can manhandle the bucks um secondary and i think that they are going to get behind and i don't know we'll see four and a half. Oh, yeah. Not that. Come on, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:27 That's five. Five balls. He could accidentally catch five. Plus 110 on DraftKings. Seeing plus 110 on DraftKings, plus 108 on FanDuel. So it's coming out. We're getting there. Connor, anything else to add?
Starting point is 00:14:41 I know we kind of touched on it. I think that I could see this offense and like the OC here, like just trying to scheme up a lot of like short stuff for Rattler, try and kind of smooth out the edges here. Maybe some like push passes to Shahid and like Olave and stuff like that. And I think we're going to see probably a lot of Camara here. I just have very low expectations of this game, but yeah, a lot of it catching four or five balls makes a ton of sense.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I think that adds up. I kind of want to strike the yards off the record. I didn't know receptions were available. Okay. So strike that. Give me the receptions. And if we need to go all for later, we could go six plus easily at ESPN. That's like plus 185.
Starting point is 00:15:24 So, I mean, we got options here, guys. I just think it's an a lave game, and I don't think that kid's going to be that bad. I don't think there's any expectations for him whatsoever. I just don't think – I just would not want to bet him personally because he could literally throw for 80 yards. Like that's in the realm of – like outcomes. I don't think he's going to be good, but I also don't think he's going to be good,
Starting point is 00:15:47 but I also don't think he's going to be a dumpster fire. I could be wrong. I mean, it is a tough spot. Like Todd Bowles, Connor's point, is going to make it very difficult, is going to blitz his face off as much as possible. It's an offensive line that is having trouble holding up. I mean, it felt like early season they did a great job kind of disguising it with all the pre-snap motion and play action and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:16:09 It's going to get a little harder to do here and this is going to be a tough spot to get it for sure. So yeah, I just, you know, sometimes I want to buy into the pedigree. We're so bad at quarterbacks and evaluating this stuff. And I don't know,
Starting point is 00:16:20 I think there's some, I think it wouldn't be the first time. Wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong on quarterback evaluation. Actually, I would say my hit rate is pretty low on quarterback evaluation in general, but like it's NFL teams are not hitting that high of a rate. And I think given the circumstances,
Starting point is 00:16:38 I don't see it going well, but you never know. I mean, what if the OC just like is getting guys into space and like, you know, they're able to counter the blitz very really well or kamara takes like three screens the house i mean there's there's ways for me to lose but receivers are doing all the work connor it ain't gonna be it ain't gonna be him i do not think you're gonna see him just dropping you know 40 yard bombs all over the place it's gonna be shaheed took a screen to the house
Starting point is 00:17:02 kamara yeah the house one of my change on like like little bubble screens or like i said of a five yard out just little stuff but yeah one of my favorite stats that i found when i was digging through it is that in his best year spencer rattler's completion rate against the against pressure was 47 in his final year at South Carolina. That's almost half. Yeah, almost half. I mean, not great. I mean, South Carolina, different circumstances, sure. But I don't think the kid is very good right off the bat. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:17:39 We'll see. Not great. All right. So let me see. First one here for me to get started. I'm going to go, you know you know it's gonna feel like a little bit of a reach if you're looking at recent box scores trying to get maybe a little bit of a dead cat bounce with the coaching changes i guess i mean not new coaches per se but i'm gonna go with breeze hall over three and a half receptions this is uh draft king seasons everywhere pretty much um over three and a half for breeze. This is DraftKings. This is everywhere, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Over three and a half for Breesol. I tweeted something out about it today, too, to tip my hand a little bit. But it's been interesting to see. Obviously, he's been a disappointment, especially in fantasy leagues. This guy was going top five everywhere. But lately, he's been used way more on passing downs as a pass blocker, running fewer routes like last two games he's failed to top the 60% route participation mark which is again like he's been like 70
Starting point is 00:18:32 basically the last two years pretty consistently and i think it was matchup specific so you look the first three games of the season hall stayed in to block on 13 of his pass blocking or, you know, passing down snaps 13 total in three games, the last two games, he's had 12 against the Vikings or 12 against Denver and 11 against the Vikings. So like basically doubled as a season rates in each of those two games.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But those are the two teams that blitz more than anyone else in the league. So I think it was very much a matchup specific against those blitz heavy teams. Now we get Buffalo, who blitzes at the lowest rate in the league, by far comfortably last 15% of the drawbacks against them are blitzes. And they're the best team to target running back receptions against. Highest targets, most receptions, most yards. So I think we see we see more breeze hall even week three against new england where they were cruising in that game like 24 to 3 even that game he ran like almost 70 of the routes and dropbacks had five targets caught four balls so even when the game script got wonky in that one uh he still topped this the games previously was like five and seven so he's
Starting point is 00:19:42 been cruising he's averaging like over five and a half per game in the first couple of weeks. So we just need to get four here against the bills. I absolutely love it. And again, readily available everywhere at three and a half. Wow. Sloppy feels like something you'd like. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:54 I'm in. That's it. That's it. That's all you need to know. I'm in. Oh, that's amazing. You had me at over.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I really liked the, uh, the matchup note there about like pass blockings. That makes a ton of sense here. Also, I mean, after 22 targets to Garrett Wilson, like I feel like they're going to try and spread the ball around maybe a little bit more to like guys like Reese Hall, get him involved. We saw a pretty, I think, lateral move between Nathaniel Hackett
Starting point is 00:20:19 and Todd Downing. I'm not sure how the Jets managed to pick up like the worst crew of head or like coaches in the league like offensively but they did i mean this is like i i forgot that he was on the team to be honest and like i didn't know i i forgot about it until they got him so i expect nothing from the play calling aspect but the reality is that aaron rogers is going to check out of or do whatever he wants anyway so i i actually don't blame nathaniel hackett that much for what happened i actually blame ro Roger significantly more because he should, he's always just been doing whatever he wanted anyway. It's like, if he doesn't like the play call, when he gets to the line,
Starting point is 00:20:51 he's just going to change it. So, uh, maybe there's some, obviously some other things that they can do to make his life easier. But again, these are all things that he dealt with in green Bay when he was with Nathaniel Hackett himself. So, um, yeah, I think, I think this breeze all over here is is pretty pretty interesting um it's i look at yards what is yards 24 and a half 25 yeah yeah i like the yards too again that's minus 130 on the over though for yards like i'm not i'm not laying minus 130 on yards like yardage anything yeah yeah you just you know catch the ball the flag get cleaned up by you know linebacker and you're you're done so but like you know catch the ball the flag get cleaned up by you know linebacker
Starting point is 00:21:25 and you're you're done so but like you still caught the ball for us so and i think part of the handicap is route participation in receptions versus you know breaking one so um i'll often default to receptions anyway but yeah i just i think that there's something to the to the past blocking stuff i just was up later than i should have been last night and was warm and i'm like that seems light for him why hasn't he been involved and uh yeah found that nugget that i thought was actually pretty useful so isn't that the best now that we have so many good stats from like pff fantasy points nfl pro like all these like data suites have come out that have helped us be like hey why is this the way it is and these are questions that we never were able to answer before and now we we are so it's awesome it's great yeah it's pretty
Starting point is 00:22:08 sweet uh all right back to you connor i think we got an over coming in here feeling pretty good about it we do uh we do we do so i well i'm just sat up in his chair he's leaning back he just he's like just you had me at over i'm goingJ. Brown over 68 and a half receiving yards, 100 plus receiving yards, 120 plus receiving yards. And I might keep going, honestly, just like for fun. Officially, that's all I've played, which is like 1.5 units, basically. But there's two things here. There's some fantastic notes from, got to shout out Dalton,
Starting point is 00:22:43 who did some research here, as well as Rich Rebar. So two match two things here. There's some fantastic notes from got a shout out Dalton who did some research here as well as rich rebar. So two matchup advantages here dating back to like basically his whole career. Brown has been targeted on 37% of his routes against man, only 22% of zone. The Browns play one of the highest rates of man. They also play one of the highest rates of cover three that against cover three,
Starting point is 00:23:01 38% target per outrun, 33% target share, 45% area share. Now he's matching with the Browns. Grant Dell pits out. Denzel Ward's banged up. I think he might play practice today, but like, and not a hundred percent, uh, you know, uh, Denzel Ward against AJ Brown is very much something I'm into.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Brown had five catches for 119 yards in week one. Um, like just draws an awesome matchup. My only concern with this is like twofold is that he's not a hundred percent or there's not enough volume because the Browns are like, just, I mean, dead offensively, but he can get here on like three catches, like literally like three or four catches, maybe one catch actually, to be honest, we're talking about a 70 yard rip to start the game and then we're cooking
Starting point is 00:23:41 with all the rest. So yeah, it's, it's one of those things where like it's just an awesome matchup the the eagles have not looked great offensively with other injuries they got lane johnson back they got devonta smith back like i think the eagles are ready to cook here love it slap what do you think buddy i mean i mean i mean you gotta think that it's it's aj brown time you know the fact that it's A.J. Brown time. You know, the fact that even just him being on the field makes him a bet. Does that make sense? Just with their whole situation, like not to rehash everything,
Starting point is 00:24:11 but everything they've been through so far this season, the fact that he's got pads on and a helmet probably means he's getting a buck plus. I mean, Connor, you mentioned it to me yesterday, and I was like, oh, man, absolutely. And for sure, love it. Feels too light. Feels like, you know, part of it's just outside of mind a little bit. It's a beat up Cleveland secondary. Grant Delpit's out.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Like Juan Thornhill there, like deep safety has been out basically since week one. So they're rolling out. And like their third and fourth safeties are also a little dinged up so i don't even know for sure that those guys are playing with ronnie hickman like these guys haven't even been full practicing so like yeah it just is a matter of like the only thing that's disruptive is just if if miles garrett just makes life a living hell for uh for jayden hurt jalen hurts but like. Typically, you see when quarterbacks are under pressure, their average at the target spikes. They take shots deep often in those scenarios too,
Starting point is 00:25:11 and Hurts is no different. So yeah, Brown to the moon here, I think is definitely within the range of outcomes. We saw Brian Thomas Jr. hit him once, I think, as well. We've seen other guys just have massive games against this team here. So I don't know. I think, as well. We've seen other guys just have massive games against this team here. So I don't know. I think it's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I'm very excited. Yeah. Good stuff. Slop, what do you got? Let's go Caleb Williams, 250-plus. Let's go. We can climb as high as we want, really. But, I mean, 250-plus right now is plus 110.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I got a plus 118, no big deal. Just bragging a little bit. But, yeah, the Jaguars, they kind of give it up to the quarterback. I think they're second worst in the NFL in yards to opposing quarterback, passing yards. Flacco just went 300-plus on him. C.J. Stroud went 300-plus on him. Who else did?
Starting point is 00:26:14 In Josh Allen's defense, he would have, but they beat them so bad that he did not get a chance to. 263 he went. Deshaun Watson is the only quarterback who has not really gone you know a little bit off he went to bucks buck 86 which for him that's going off that's off yeah for new him so the idea that he could throw for buck 86 caleb can definitely get 250. Here's kind of, not a hot take, but I don't know if the Bears are going to be able to run. I think it might be
Starting point is 00:26:49 the Jaguars might be like a baby pass funnel because they're not that good against the run, but they're not bad. So if a team like the Bears, like I said, just can't move the ball on the ground, they will be able to move it through the air with Caleb Williams. He'll at least be able to run himself and you got Rome, you got DJ Moore, Allen's going to play.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I mean, there's just a lot in Chicago. So for that reason, 250 plus feels like a pretty safe floor. And again, if you want to go 275, that's in play. I'll get to the exact number right now but uh they they've got him i believe over 325 as well yeah so you got 275 at plus 220 300 plus 390 and 325 if you want to get like loose loose that's plus 700 um i thought there'd be some caleb stuff on the show today so i'm i approve i have it on my list of like alts to play potentially it's um i slop i don't even know if you know this or noonan do we talk about this my wife won 1500 on a parlay last weekend at drafting sports book one of the legs was caleb williams did we talk about this no was that the one by uh wrigley field yep yeah yeah that's the one huh so we're talking like three. Yeah, yeah. That's the one, huh?
Starting point is 00:28:05 So we're talking like three minutes before the game, and I had put in a bunch of Joe Flacco overs and stuff, and I was pounding that just solo. I was like, I got to put in some SGPs. And so I'm like, well, I don't want my wife just sitting there on her phone the entire time not watching the games getting excited. So I'm like, who do you like this week? She's like, oh, Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I want him to be good. She's like, Joe Flacco sounds fun. I'm like, good. Sounds good. And then she's like, caleb williams i want him to be good she's like joe flacco sounds fun i'm like good sounds good and then she's like i like mark andrews a lot uh but i'm like i don't think anyone likes mark andrews a lot right now and she's like well just just play him i'm like okay so i played 40 plus for mark andrews zero yards in the first half caught like finished with 60 caleb 250 and then flacco 275 50 bucks to to win 1,400, and she cashed. So it was electric. I'm not going to lie. It was wild. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Parleys are fun, dude. Yeah, because I thought we were dead. Andrew's zero yards and a half. He did nothing in the first three quarters. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. But never in doubt.
Starting point is 00:29:01 We were always positive. I mean, she knew. She's like, because I'm playing this, it's going to win. I'm like, yeah, okay, whatever. And it wins. So there you go. She got you on the week of your son running too. I mean, like what a, what a time to be alive for her, you know? And that's good for you. You don't even have to spend the money to get her a bag or, you know, she can do it all on her own.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I like it. She wanted to buy like a, like a vacuum, like one of those like Roombas or whatever. And I was like, that's perfect. Get your own money to do that. You know, this is like, this is good because I don't want to spend $600 on a robot vacuum. You know, I got a great vacuum. Did you get one? I got you.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I got a vacuum. It was prime day the other day, but I mean, I didn't buy one. But I don't know if you got any. I was thinking about getting one. I went Dyson. time day the other day but i mean i didn't buy one um but i don't know if you got if you got any uh i went dyson i've been a dyson guy for probably seven years now yeah i mean dude i'd get a tattoo if they wanted me to i like them that much dude they're good should we be sponsored by dyson is that a thing let me talk to him shock vacuum a call i can call my wife in here let her i find it out for the folks there's there's there's a new vacuum out there in the space i don't know i don't know if again i use it i'm not familiar with the brand name but i'm telling you the dyson's legit man we um
Starting point is 00:30:15 but the dogs weren't really allowed on the couch when we first got them and they my wife was like well you got the back of the couch then so i vacuum it every day literally every morning i get the dyson dude it's nice bro this is good we need a vacuum parlay a dyson yeah the the the dyson vacuum parlay of the week brought to you by john hodgson and yeah we were already doing ad reads we're not even sponsored yet yeah get a dicing guys i'm telling you change your life i i just texted the wife to find out the brands again i moved on from a dice a dice into this new one and i feel really good about okay well what sold me originally is called the animal like that's pretty sweet like for a name of vacuum
Starting point is 00:30:59 like it's called an animal like nice like i'll try it out and then just all the pieces dude you just connect them bam bam it's handheld like everything about it's nice but i i will check out another diet or another brand vacuum if it's better than a dyson though so if you were a dyson guy before and you're saying this is better i'll check it out it was a dyson guy before we now have an electrolux okay your lux is is the brand elect electro lux it is uh fantastic fantastic multiple settings wireless easy charge hard floors carpet detachable little you know little guy to get the stairs fantastic love it okay the electro lux all right highly recommend it i'll pass that along yeah let the wife know yeah but the roomba is automatic i was thinking about because we just got the uh
Starting point is 00:31:50 the new floors down it's just not getting the corner slob we know it's not getting the corners yeah and that's the thing though but like if it could just just go around like while i'm not already you know what i mean maybe i get the corners at some point i don't know like we could work something out me and and the Roomba. You know what I mean? It's like I got to sweep the floors too. It's true. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Sorry, I took his way off track there. Anyway, Slop, I love the way he's going to play. He's going to throw a bunch. I played DeAndre Swift under. I played Christian Kirk under at like way better numbers. I think Roshan unders, if I didn't already play Swift unders, are good. They're going to pass the ball a ton. I think Caleb Alts are fun.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I'll probably play some just for fun as well, personally. Almost pulled the trigger on Caleb Rushing as well. I think Caleb Rushing is sneaky. He's like 18 and a half or something like that. Jacksonville play a little less man than they were early in the season, though I do think there's obviously a strong correlation as we've touched on in the past with man defenses and rushing quarterbacks and even caleb have a couple games this year where he's you know i think we already have like 35 or
Starting point is 00:32:50 something last week too like i think there's some obviously some scrambling upside these edges can get pressure on them collapse the pocket takes off like so like log is 10 and a half uh over 18 19 and a half i think those are in play too for for caleb if you're looking for angles and i probably will right i mean we want that early morning sweat so i think i have a i have a tackle coming in that game here soon too so love it uh you know we want to have some perfect 9 30 bet dude is yeah caleb 250 plus i mean i'll get you going a cup of coffee a little caleb yeah i think it's a good way to start the day. All right. Next one for me. And then we'll start to build in some of the million dollar tickets.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Again, jump in the chat. If there's anything you want us to talk about here outside of vacuums, we'll happy to get to it here at the end of the show. I absolutely love this. I love this place so much. I love it. It's moved a little bit since I wrote it up,
Starting point is 00:33:41 but actually probably like it even a little bit more because I wasn't worried about the yards. Now we've got a better price darnell mooney longest reception over 20 and a half minus 108 on fanduel uh it's 21 and a half and a bunch of other spots that's it's absolutely fine uh i mean i don't know if people realize like mooney's playing every down for the falcons like this is not a part-time player. He's on the fields, like 97% of the snaps this season. They're running 11, almost as much as the Rams.
Starting point is 00:34:12 So like they were in three receiver sets all the time and playing a lot of like this perimeter down the field role. Now that we've seen Drake London into the slot, even a little bit more. Now we get the Panthers, Absolute dumpster fire defensively. They have no pass rush. Their best pass rusher is Davion Clowney. He's probably out in this game. We've seen clean pocket Kirk just cook all season long.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I think that's going to happen again here. Props in this game in general are probably a little sneaky. Monotone and I mentioned that too. Lots of ways here but if you kind of look outside of week one against the steelers mooney caught one ball in that game it was a 15 yard catch so he he got actually close to it but he has in the past four games he's caught at least three balls he's got a longest of 41 26 36 and 24 yards he's been targeted 26 times at 10 or more air yards down the field. He only has 12 targets under 10 air yards.
Starting point is 00:35:08 This is how this guy is working. It's the third most in the league here, more than double his like sub 10 yard target. So love this one here against a bad tackling team, a bad secondary over 20 and a half longest reception. He'll probably do it a couple of times in this game. I think Mooney like 48 and a half is like reception line is low four and a half receptions is it gets a little dicey if the you know panthers don't keep up a little bit but absolutely love the longest angle here
Starting point is 00:35:34 slap what do you think i feel like they throw it to him every time it's like every time you have a different falcons pass catcher you're always trying to like figure out like who that ball just go to and you're like, ah, it's Mooney again. You know what I mean? Like over and over and over. So no, I like, I think Kirk really likes that guy too. Just Bob, just throwing deep. If you, if you go back and watch, I mean, I know we're talking about stats, we're looking at, you know, different stats, but just the eyeball test itself, you'll see it. I mean, it, it, he just wants to throw deep to him. Like that's literally like what he's thinking every play it feels like. So, yeah, I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:36:10 The Panthers are terrible too, guys. Terrible. They are very bad. So, and the thing is, Dalton might be able to not hang around, but like hang around enough so you could get four quarters of this thing having life which that would be even better but i don't think you're gonna need it though yeah you and stew were talking about that how this game could get a little hot you know and like uh if there's any pushback from dalton here um i mean this game could go go wild especially i mean i think it could be a bijan
Starting point is 00:36:39 robinson week too like i mean the panthers up front are just terrible so like if there's ever gonna be a bijan robinson week i think this could be it as well uh and then if dalton can give pushback here like xavier laguette's kind of coming into his own deontay johnson is always injured so i think he plays um but yeah i think this is i mean it's a good it's a good look on mooney here on the on the longest especially my only concern would be like they just like are are you know score so fast or run so much that there's not enough volume but again that's solved by the longest because you all you need is one you know yeah so yeah i think you're gonna get multiple opportunities for it put that way you know what i mean like minus 108 you said so and you get multiple cracks out i'll take that you know yeah
Starting point is 00:37:19 there's only one game where he had like a really low a dot it was against the chiefs he still had a 36 yard catch in the game uh with like a three low a dot and it was against the chiefs. He still had a 36 yard catch in the game with like a three yard a dot. Like the rest of his a dots per game have been like 15. You know, he's getting worked deep down the field. So yeah, Brian brings up in the chat to have it on the notes. Mooney is a reverse correlation candidate for sure.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Fan dual had his reception line at three and a half, like massively juiced, whereas everyone line at three and a half, like massively juiced, whereas everyone else had four and a half. So if Fandle comes back to four and a half on the reception side, I think Mooney is a great look. Cause again, like 60 plus is very much in play. He's been doing that often under four and a half,
Starting point is 00:37:58 60 plus is, is kind of cooking with gas, I think. So yeah, very much on the table for reverse correlation. If Fandle gets on board. So, yeah, very much on the table for reverse correlation if FanDuel gets on board. So, all right, gents. I got one more.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I might save it. We could talk about, you know, for the sake, we got about 20 minutes. I think it's a good amount of time to build some of this stuff out if we want to start talking about any alts, any same-game parlays. Again, and I think to what Connor's touching on there, I think this game is a good same-game parlay if you bank on the ceiling stuff like dionte johnson on the other side because it's somewhat narrow in terms of how like these teams work like chuba hubbard probably
Starting point is 00:38:34 dionte johnson uh drake london mooney like it's pretty clean you know obviously you can get some in there too uh but yeah there's there's lots of ways for ceiling outcomes if this game kind of starts cooking. So I like a lot of those legs and I think it's a nice little SGP. But yeah, some other stuff that, you know, I think some of the legs that Connor started here too, like AJ Brown, ceiling outcomes
Starting point is 00:38:59 should be in whatever our millionaire stuff is. 100%. I'm in on that. Do you want to add Brees Hall receptions as an alt in there? Like, I mean, what's the most receptions he's had like in a game? Seven this year in the game.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I mean, six is like plus 300 AJ Brown. I don't know how high we want to go on AJ Brown. What are we trying to build three to ones, four to ones. I mean, last week we did like eight to ones or six to ones. And that was like, it wasn't bad.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I mean, I don't know. What are we thinking there? I would say let's just – let's let the play decide. Okay. Yeah. All right. I want to get your feeling on this. I played this before the show, and I want to put this in the all-tier too.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I love – and I think it's in the chat here. Anything – yeah, Meg's got it here. to put this in the all-tier too i love and uh i think it's in the chat here anything uh yeah meg's got it here anything gibbs monty uh is just too good this week i played gibbs over 57 and a half rushing yards uh which i just i don't i really don't understand why that was the line um he's he stopped 75 in the last three games there's a lot of good coach speak heading into the bye week with like he's getting his legs under him three games. There's a lot of good coach speak heading into the bye week. He's getting his legs under him because he was dealing with a little bit of hammy in the preseason. They want to keep going to him.
Starting point is 00:40:11 They get Frank Ragnow back. I think that the Lions do whatever they want to do offensively in that game. If that game becomes competitive, it's because Dak shows a pulse and starts to push them a little bit. But I don't think it's because there's any stalling out on the lion side. There's no pass rush coming. They're like dealing with like edge five and six, basically on the depth chart. If that was even a thing,
Starting point is 00:40:33 those guys weren't even there. Eric Kendricks might be out. He hasn't practiced. So like it's bad. So ceiling outcomes for Gibbs, I think are very, very, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So I think like 75 plus 80 plus is like I don't know plus 160 or something like that thoughts on Gibbs I don't want to take a running back over because that's kind of like taking an under for me but here's what I will say I am not taking Jameson Williams this week even though
Starting point is 00:40:59 I think he can get there all that blah blah blah blah but the Lions can just run the ball, dude. So it's going to ruin. That's why you play the uncorrelated. I already played it. It's going to ruin the whole – yeah, maybe the uncorrelated might be the weak one. It's like they just – the Cowboys run defense ruins Detroit's pass game.
Starting point is 00:41:20 So, yeah, that's the move. If you're taking somebody from Detroitroit that's that's where you're gonna go you know what i mean it was it's kind of like last night with uh mason from the 49ers when i know he got hurt but he was well on his way to 100 plus you know what i mean it's like and it was just because you're like dude you can't really take 49ers you're gonna get some like like debo got his kiddo got hit but but you know i'm trying to say like it was definitely but like they were all in play and you were were going to need a big play to get home. And that's going to be tough for Detroit.
Starting point is 00:41:50 So, because, again, you can just run it. Other side, though, Cowboys pass is all in play. Like Jalen Tolbert. Maybe CD. I don't know if – I mean, his number's high. Ferguson possibly, but I'm on Tolbert five-plus receptions. I think he could go 6'7". So if we want to look into that, I mean –
Starting point is 00:42:17 What, 270 for six plus 550 for seven? I mean, seven is a lot of catches, but – That's a lot. That's six, though, 250. I mean, I catches but that's a lot six though 250 i mean that i feel like that's happening i mean that's fine i i like that and gibbs alts paired into one like for as part of this i mean i want to build this on caesars again just because vandal is still lacking on some alts randomly i don't know why like yeah so i'm gonna build this on Caesars. But I will start with Tolbert, 6-plus. Gibbs, 100-plus.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Or do you want to go less than that, 80-plus, 90-plus? 80-plus. 80-plus? Yeah. Again, he's been right there. Let's just get home. You know what I mean? Let's get home.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I think we can. I think we can have a pretty big payout based on how many legs we're going to have. And I think they're all like you say we don't need anybody to set a record you know what i mean like just good players to have good games all right i'm in on that that makes sense um okay so that we got those two and then what do we want to do with caleb 300 or less than 300 like 275 what's that what's the price on that uh it's like plus one something let me see here um it is plus 180 or plus 333 for 300 plus oh 333 that's the uh what's that the the method the
Starting point is 00:43:40 home run method remember that if something if something at mgm it's guaranteed to hit the home run method remember that if something if something 999 at mgm it's guaranteed to hit a home run that was someone's method for real like if they're 333 fmg they're gonna hit a home run after what i've seen on twitter the last couple days i'm not surprised with anything at this point oh yeah man they're going bro twitter they're coming after me dude you see what's going on no are you getting you catching heat right now now this kid like is uh? Nah, this kid, like, he was, like, toxin me, dude. But I don't really care. And, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, nah, I put my name and address and, like, phone number.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I'm just, like, dude, like, I'm from when you had a phone book. And it was, like, everybody's stuff. They dropped it on your board. So I really don't care if someone has, like, you know, I'm not famous or anything like that. Is your name actually John Hyslop? What's up? Is your name actually john hyslop or yeah that's that's the thing i was like dude there's literally a picture of me with my government name on it like you know i'm saying you can just google that and like but yeah no because the sneaky secret in the industry is that there are a lot of people who whose names are not actually their names um who are like big figures that you think are their names that are not their names really yeah give me
Starting point is 00:44:50 one name a name warren sharp is not actually warren sharp neither first nor last yeah i knew that i mean there's a couple other ones that i don't want to dox actually yeah i know that's fine that's fine i just wanted one that's a good, no, that's not his name. Yeah. That's awesome. No, but yeah, other than that, I didn't know what else was going on on Twitter. That's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I mean, there's other crazy, I mean, Twitter's been wild with all the calling our shots stuff. And then. Oh man, they go after him. That guy's an awesome dude too. Is he? I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Of course, it's not easy to parlay five legs to get a plus hundred but it's just 10 bucks my my favorite thing was that he just like didn't know what ev was for a second but i don't think he knew what they were talking about because they're two different evs do you know what i'm saying like he thought they were talking about like the board cleaners like the odd jam ev yeah there's the top down like period like yeah it was weird which i agree with but then he like doubled down and then tripled down and then was like then was like oh like wait like actually no like you guys are right like sorry you know whatever he kind of like realized he's like no that's of course that's not what ev means like you know and i was like okay at least he knows that but it took him like way too long and he took way too much heat prior to that.
Starting point is 00:46:06 So I was like, all right, well, I'm just sitting here laughing. And like he was getting math lessons. And I'm like, you know, guys made a ton of money from giving up play. So whatever, I'm not going to hate too much. And I thought that was certainly an interesting development there. I think his parlays are mostly pretty bad, but I mean, it's fun. I like to look at like where it all stemmed from. It all stemmed from the ladders.
Starting point is 00:46:25 So it's like this guy got a bunch of attention. Someone didn't like it. And now, oh, it's negative EV. Like, well, yeah, of course. Here's the thing, though. The most you lose is $10 doing that. Whatever, dude. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:36 There's just bigger fish to fry. You know what I mean? Like, that's all. Yeah. Yep, for sure. Sorry. I derailed us here. This is becoming a problem.
Starting point is 00:46:47 All right. So we got Calebaleb in there we got tolbert we got gibbs um what did we do with breeze halls receptions oh yeah we wanted to have breeze hall receptions and i got that aj brown what do we want on breeze hall reception six five i think five plus is good yeah i would say like i'm not a big running back receptions like ladder guy like i'm not a big running back perceptions like ladder guy like i will did you hear the handicap slob i mean it was absolutely mint but man five on a running back but he's not a normal running back so if you want to go six we could but five i feel like is fine we'll go five we'll be waiting on that on monday night what's like dude all we gotta have is breeze hall Hall to get five. We're all set.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yeah. Cash out will be for like what the winner, what the total is. You know what I mean? Like it'll be, you know, you want to cash that out now, guys.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah. We're there. Um, what else are you looking at? What do you do for AJ Brown? We do a hundred. Yeah. I think a hundred is fine.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Plus two 30. I mean, that's not bad. Um, some other ones that I think are interesting. you're looking at what do we do for aj brown do we do 100 yeah i think 100 is fine plus 230 i mean that's not bad um some other ones that i think are interesting deandre hopkins overs and alts are kind of in play against the colts i mean this is like the stoppable force of will levis first movable object cold secondary they're allowing like 300 yards of pops like a bunch of jabronis like justin fields and you knowarkin carving him up. I don't know. I'm ready to get hurt again. They want to run the ball so damn much. And teams skew so run heavy against the Colts.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Well, then Pollard, because the Colts can't stop that either. I love Pollard. I love Pollard. You know what I mean? Like, we can do Pollard rushing yards. I think that's a play. I do, too. I think that offense is going to have a spike game, but for them.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Like, not a real spike game, but, like, for not a real spike game, but like for them a spike game. His number is 63 and a half. I mean 80 plus is going to get us close to like almost 2-1. 80 plus. The Colt run defense has been good. Like they've been like they're like top 10 in a lot of metrics. Are they? I thought they were bad.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I have them written down right here. It says bad. I mean they were last week. I didn't look again this week. No, they're decent on like success rate. They've given up the second most that's the thing is teams skew run heavy right they have the like the lowest pass rate over expectation against them they've given up the second most rushing yards in the league so like teams aren't super efficient against them and i also think like they're trying to hide will lovis i think it's just a fact he's
Starting point is 00:49:03 got a shoulder injury i think they just they want to pound the ball a little bit. Last week, they did the same thing. They wanted to hide their quarterback. Two weeks ago, it was against Miami. They had a negative 19.5% pass rate over expectation in that game. You saw 22 Pollard carries. He's been awesome. I think this is pre-injury Pollard.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I've been talking about the Pollard play all week. Yeah, I'll put it in for you. I don't like it, but I will put it in just because I trust you. How about that? I kind of like the Levis now. Yeah, I'm watching here. The thing is about the Colts or about the Titans last week, like they didn't – like they knew they didn't have to throw the ball ever.
Starting point is 00:49:45 You know what I'm trying to say? You go in there and be like, dude, we can just run it every time if we wanted to. You know what I mean? But is that going to be any different this week against the Colts? I mean, with Anthony Richardson, who hasn't done diddly this year? I don't know. I think Anthony Richardson gives a pushback at least, at least tries. I mean, if he does – Yeah, I'm the biggest colds dude there is uh i kind of like
Starting point is 00:50:07 tennessee minus two and a half like yeah yeah yeah but again he pushes like to where like you show up against miami and like half the team can just stay on the bus you know like well you don't need everybody for this one like it's just go out there do your thing I don't think that's the way this way. I think they're going to have to play a game. I'll be honest with you, man. Levis. I mean, I'm ready to get hurt again with that guy. I think we can go 250 to see what happens. He's terrifying to me because I don't think they want him. I think that he's terrifying to them too.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I think they don't want him dropping back a bunch. Yeah, no. They did, and now they don't. Yeah, they're like, oh, yeah, this is now they don't you know yeah they're like oh yeah this is why we don't want to do this let's um two plus passing touchdown just plus 182 same i think we just i think we just skipped this game i think yeah i i don't think that this belongs in a parlay no i don't want to i don't want to be a pollard pusher and i'm not buying i don't want to be a levis pusher yeah yeah all right that's fair yeah i don't want my bags a Pollard pusher, and I'm not buying it. I don't want to be a Levis pusher. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Yeah. All right. That's fair. Yeah. I don't want my bags packed on either guy. Yeah. That's fair. Let's hear. Any, like, Falcons?
Starting point is 00:51:13 We talked about the Falcons-Panthers game as being hot. Like, we could probably have one or two legs from there, so. Yeah. Chet is from London. Would be the first thing off the top of my head would be,, what's his London eight London eight pluses plus two 10. I think that was FanDuel's number. That can happen. Plus two 50 on Caesars.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I think that's nice. I mean, we could do, you can actually do on Caesars alt. I think all longest is a thing. Yeah. They do have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:42 That is Mooney. 30 plus is plus two 20.. They do have a lot longest. Yeah, that is pretty sweet. Mooney 30-plus is plus 220. Oh, for Mooney? Yeah. I'd do that. Yeah, I mean, look, he's – Twice? Twice, yeah, 41 and 36.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Yeah, I mean, I don't hate that. But, I mean, I think there may be other ways too. I mean, I think even Mooney like 60 plus, right? Or 70 plus or London catches, I think are probably. Clark likes him, like loves him. I think those are the same thing. Deontay on the other side, like with a couple of games. I mean, last game against the Bears, a little quiet,
Starting point is 00:52:18 but like two games before that, he had 13 targets in each of those games. So like seven plus catches. To be honest i think dionte is gonna see like 20 targets again like i went to write up dionte over five and a half receptions and i saw that he's uh he was limited with an ankle injury i think he's fine he's always injured man this guy's been injured every single game for his entire career yeah and he left the game uh a couple weeks ago i had him over five and a half he had five receptions he
Starting point is 00:52:43 left the game i'm like dude no don't do it to me and then he came back in and caught so like i don't know for that i'd play him again seven plus is plus 198 plus is plus 360 seven plus is probably right all right and we come back with uh london in that too or do you want to take some or or maybe mooney mooney i would say mooney yards or london receptions would probably be my lead i put london receptions but i'm open to okay i'm good with it just diversify yep um all right that's good so we got a little falcons panthers action there um anything in this bangles giants game i mean this i want a bunch i want a couple things but i don't know that they're out yet we got wandale 50 104 that's i mean it seems really high for a guy who's eight out is like I don't know that they're out yet. We got Wanda 54.
Starting point is 00:53:27 That seems really high for a guy who's eight out. He's like three. Darius Slayton, 47. Yes. Is that where you're at? He saw a 38% first read target share. Yes. Slayton uncorrelated was on my list.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Slayton longest. Neighbors is out. Neighbors is out. Definitely. Really? Plus 225. What does it say? longest neighbors is out. Yeah. It was not. Yes. Definitely. Us two 25. Yeah. Danny, Danny dives appears to be like,
Starting point is 00:53:50 he only knows that he has one receiver, like whichever the X or the Y, whichever one that is like, that's like it only him. Like, so if neighbors were to play, Slayton would be literally running cardio out there, but he's not. So Slayton gets all the tarts.
Starting point is 00:54:09 We can go receptions. We could go receptions too. I think it's fine either way. This Bengals defense is so bad that they're just so bad. I think Borough will at least move the ball a little bit against the Giants. I think the Giants are kind like, kind of good defensively. Like, they're not that bad. They're, yeah, they're okay.
Starting point is 00:54:32 You know, I mean, they're like, I mean. Not good, but I'm telling you, they're not like just, they're not a pushover team where you're like, let's target everybody against these guys. It's like you can't. Like, they're not that bad. Yeah. But again, I mean, I'm not saying they're like,
Starting point is 00:54:43 they're not the 85 bears, but I think, um, okay. Six plus receptions for Slayton or 70 yards. I think I would go yards, but I know we're cooking in the six plus section. Like Jesus.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Yeah. That's too much. My blood. Um, do we want any, like, it looks like both, um,
Starting point is 00:55:07 both the running backs will play this week chase brown is at 45 zach moss is at 44 books don't really seem to know what to do noonan you have a take i think chase is probably the way to go right chase is the way to go do chase combo yards um okay let me see it would be would be my lean um i don't think zach moss 100 healthy i think he was already getting uh you getting usurped here with the top role. Brown's a little – I don't know, just got a little bit of spicy to him, I think, that they don't have with Moss. So I think when we find the numbers, we've seen more work in the passing game for Brown as of late.
Starting point is 00:55:42 He's got some news. He can break a long one. That's what I'm saying. He just looks so much better than the other guy like like yeah you know it's him like donald you watch a lot of bangles you know what i mean you know which one just caught the ball whenever you're looking you know you're watching and you got the four screens up when the running back gets the ball off the bed you know that was him it's not the moss kid you know i'm saying it's definitely brown just
Starting point is 00:56:02 because he looks like he got shot out of a cannon we can we can do 80 plus combined at plus 175 90 plus combined at plus 270 if that's interesting to you his receiving game work has not been that much just because i think zach was better in pass pro technically but um i mean he's got two and three balls on three and three targets the last two weeks so he will be used in the passing game yeah tougher tougher opponents i mean do you have any juice against the ravens team where no one's done much of uh anything against this is pretty nice so true um yeah moss is out there more for sure because of the blocking but i think he's dinged up i think the i'm surprised he's active like we were yeah we thought he'd be out so for sure yeah i think this is good all right do it so 80 is plus 175. 90 is plus 270. I like 80.
Starting point is 00:56:45 I like 80. We're getting closer. Let me see. We're at like, yeah, we still are at 125, 140 bucks to win a million. It's just so hard to get to a million now. It's tough to get to a million. It's tough to make a million dollars these days. So we need like two or three more big legs real quick that we can just pop off here.
Starting point is 00:57:07 What about James Daniels? Yes, let's do it. We also don't have any Derek Henry. Both, both, both. Run that back combo, Henry, Daniels. 110 plus for Henry? Yes, sure. All right, and then passing for... Daniels. Yeah. 110 plus for Henry. Yes. Sure.
Starting point is 00:57:27 All right. And then passing for Jaden Daniels here. We'll go with 275 plus 290. That's good. All right. The other thing I liked in that game too, is if we do see any sort of a pulse from the commanders, every time we've seen a non blow-blowout basically for the ravens
Starting point is 00:57:46 zay flowers catches six balls seven balls yeah uh his i wanted to play his over at four and a half it's a little juicy but like zay six plus is uh whatever written down like plus 150 160 uh again that was a fan do line zay six plus is plus 154 so yeah that makes sense i don't know if that makes sense playing with henry since i think we're going with one heavy game here but i do like the i think the note makes sense because if it if it's flip-flop or like you see the commanders get up early just like hammer some zay receptions uh a lot yeah um i really think what's up have you guys noticed that i just want to ask that like they vandal has been like too good adjusting to that one team gets up you're like so i go right into the receivers and it's like dude you gotta be joking me you don't need that the lines shoot up
Starting point is 00:58:35 so different books are way better at that than others like yeah vandal's good. I'll be honest. They are good. So keep that in mind. What did we do for Jane Daniels? 275 plus. I think that can happen. What about his rushing? I think it's a harder rush spot for him this week. But, I mean, I also would not be surprised if he— What's the numbers? I think 50 is baseline.
Starting point is 00:59:02 No, I'm good with that. I'm sorry. You're already done. What about like Gaden Reed instead? We need one more leg. So we got our last leg here to get to like a reasonable amount to a million. Who are the Packers playing? Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I like a lot of Jordan. Yeah, Jordan loves stuff. I don't think the Cardinals are good. I think they got so lucky last week Like so lucky They're not good And I think they can give up points They should have given up a lot more last week
Starting point is 00:59:31 They just got lucky I don't know how lucky they're going to do it You know what I mean Yeah I mean it's another good matchup for Jaden Reed I mean Dobbs is playing Watson looks I mean questionable Like Jaden Reed's just been like the guy there Awesome matchup I mean we Dobbs is playing. Watson looks, I mean, questionable. Like, Jaden Reed's just been, like, the guy there. Awesome matchup.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I mean, we're at, like – We just do Jordan Love 300 plus 238. Feels right. You want to do that? We're 275 plus. It's plus 138. We don't have to whack them all the receiver. We just know that Jordan Love cooks against cover three,
Starting point is 01:00:02 and that's what they're going to see. All right, cool. I'm going to fire that sucker in there um and i think we're good we are okay so at 300 or 275 we'll do 300 that's fine all right um we only need why does this thing suck so bad um i mean it's like six bucks to win a milli so we're in a good spot i don't know i missed we have 10 legs uh 12 legs okay i missed something all right i'll get it when you put it out i'll yeah i'll tweet it out don't worry i mean just to recap it here um dogs are ready all right so to recap we got slayton 70 brown 80 combo tolbert 6 plus jameer gibbs 80 plus london 8 plus receptions dionte 7
Starting point is 01:00:55 plus receptions derrick henry 110 plus jayden 275 plus jordan love 300 plus passing aj brown 100 plus caleb williams 300 plus passing passing. And Brees Hall, five-plus receptions. That's like a million dollars, dude. I mean, that's a million bucks written all over it. Can you imagine what they're going to do when we win that? I think they might send someone to try to kill us. Because they're going to be very mad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Uncle Cesar is about to be pissed. I mean, he was already mad. He called know the phones to make sure mari cooper sold last week and didn't get us on our next legs um it didn't matter because you know pickens was just apparently not available uh and some other legs didn't hit but it felt good it was we were feeling good there i think going into the oh yeah that's all you can ask for. I mean, you just got to get to the next window, and we did. It's just we didn't get any further than that. But we should have, though. Yeah, Cooper, I mean, like 12 targets.
Starting point is 01:01:52 He had four balls. Yeah, but he was there. He had 60 kind of early in the third quarter. Yes. You know what I mean? Like not that early, but still early enough to where you're like, oh, cool, they're still losing. So we're just getting nothing with Cooper,
Starting point is 01:02:04 and he never caught another ball. I was mad. I mad i'm not gonna lie i really wanted to be a millionaire you know the books are in cahoots obviously jordan mason last night that was the books ah the books they all got together and told him yeah that's my favorite government bandol made the call. That's what I keep saying that. Government took a break from generating tornadoes to. Yeah, they were making all those hurricanes to kill the Republican voters. Yep. It's tough, man.
Starting point is 01:02:35 It's tough. They got a lot to do, man. It's a lot of busy, busy gig, man. Football games. The biggest conspiracy that I've seen lately has been with, you know, deep state and the mainstream media uh you know holding grp wins you know not talking about his sam donald comeback player of the year and jayden daniels mvp tickets so you know i mean poor grp is getting you know buried by the mainstream media i mean it's time we shine a light on that you know yep exactly well i mean they're they are in cahoots i mean that's that's what the media does so they all get together and just figure out what we're going to
Starting point is 01:03:09 talk about so they love to see it no let's tell you conspiracy theories million dollar parlays that's what the show's about i mean yeah exactly this is basically like the new alex jones except there's three of us yeah pretty much do we have move the line tinfoil hats or is that like a two month after? Move the line, I'm not afraid to talk about the things that no one wants to talk about. Okay. That's our lot in life, guys.
Starting point is 01:03:35 The uncomfortable subjects, the harsh realities that are out there on the streets that they don't want to tell you. The Twitter streets where slop's getting doxxed. Oh man, it's bad. It's tough out there, dude. There was a picture of my wife today. streets that they don't want exactly cool the twitter streets where slop's getting doxxed oh man it's bad it's tough out there dude there was a picture of my wife today about public picture from a newspaper like with my kids i was like dude i was in a newspaper just so you know that
Starting point is 01:03:55 was circulated for free to the public so i'd be shocked i'd be more confused if you couldn't get that picture you know what i mean like you're're posting it like, oh, look at me. It's like, so what are you saying? You got Google? I think everybody does. What was someone mad at you about? That mad? Like what are your parlays like?
Starting point is 01:04:13 I think it's just I said that I was out on Lieutenant Dan. Oh. He's kind of a dirtbag now. Like I was looking for a hero. You're not a good guy. Yeah, I was looking for a hero. And it turns out like I think he set a chick on fire or tried to yeah yeah we've all been there punched a emp which is all fine if it happened like 20
Starting point is 01:04:33 years ago you know what i mean like you like you tell that story and you and your buddy's like wow that's hilarious dude you set a chick on fire 20 years ago if you did it like three years ago or like pretty recently you're still in formation for it, not that funny. That's the way shit works. It's not my fault. I was out on him. I'd hang out with him. He can't be my hero.
Starting point is 01:04:56 That's all I'm saying. In a former life, I worked with a lot of drug addicts and people who did that. He's a crackhead. He's got's a crackhead he's got he's got the chin like you can tell that he's just like a serious like crack user like that's just like the guy likes drugs like i don't have a problem but i just can't again i can't have a hero that's a crackhead you know that's my bad i didn't really research the
Starting point is 01:05:19 guy i only looked at pictures i thought yeah he probably looks like a stand-up guy living in a sailboat, saying that he's going to ride out a hurricane, a Cat 5 at the time, in that sailboat. And I was like, dude, this guy is awesome. And then I'm going to find out he's not that awesome. He's not the worst guy in the world, but just, again, not a hero. So anyways, this dude didn't like that. He got mad at me and then said something about like selling picks that have no chance of hitting him it's like buddy hit him with the ticket which i love that like
Starting point is 01:05:50 i get to post my picket now and then that's when he got like started dming me telling me he was outside of my house and stuff it's like dude no you're not because you would be buried in my yard if you were you know you're not coming to my house you're not he calls me over and over and over and but from a private number like he would never call me from his number and yeah dude it got weird man i was like buddy stop calling me but then i found a setting on the android that it just will um like you don't even know when an unknown number calls you it logs like so you can see it your an unknown number calls you. It logs like, so you can see it in your phone logs,
Starting point is 01:06:27 but you, it never rings. So I was like, that was sweet. Kind of taught me a lesson. So I thanked him for that. And he got mad. But,
Starting point is 01:06:33 um, but yeah, I found out his real name today and I sent him a couple of things, just, you know, using his name, Sam. And,
Starting point is 01:06:40 uh, he deleted both of his accounts. Like apparently he's in big trouble for like doing something wherever he lives i'm not gonna say anymore but like yeah so he did not want to get into more trouble so he just deleted everything like all right sweet this is wild yeah just fun dude you're like on the fringe of restraining orders over gambling twitter not packing a crackhead can you imagine Yeah, just because I don't want to have a hero be a crackhead. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:08 What do you want me to do, dude? I'm sorry. But I will say, I feel compelled to say that the Lieutenant Dan guy, not the same pedo that's in Illinois. Different guy. People were coming in being like,
Starting point is 01:07:23 he's a pedo it's like no that's messed up he's not he's wild he has a lot of mug shots number for that all right and and then if you look the name i see where they're getting it from because he has a different middle name as the guy the pedo the pedo is in prison for like 120 years this guy is in a boat high on crack you know i'm saying in tampa right now like they're on crack, you know what I'm saying, in Tampa right now. Like they're obviously different people. You know what I mean? So you should be able to put two and two together. They're not the same guy.
Starting point is 01:07:50 But yeah. Mass talk, everybody. Yeah, so fun week so far, man. I mean, it's only – what's today, Friday? Yeah, I'm going to go hit some golf balls, try and not think about Lieutenant Dan. But I'm going to picture it when we win a milli. So it'll be great. We'll get a boat and we'll go to Tampa.
Starting point is 01:08:12 You should name it Lieutenant Dan. He's getting a new boat from one of those streamers. He's going to give them a bunch of money and they're going to give him a boat. They canceled it. Oh, no, really? I thought that was for something else. It's a different guy. No, they canceled it because he's a thought that was something else a different guy
Starting point is 01:08:25 no they canceled because he's a scumbag like you're saying like that stinks man i guess like i said if if the setting that chick on fire was like 15 more years ago he'd probably be fine you know if that's your limitations run out on that stuff we don't even know what she did like i don't want to like that's what i'm saying like i want to find like i think that charge got dropped too so i don't know look up lieutenant dan because he would probably be in prison for that if if that really did happen you know what i mean like i think it was some sort of misunderstanding yeah he allegedly gasoline and just so this weird stuff was happening it's a weird time you know they were probably both high on crack like who knows oh my
Starting point is 01:09:03 god yeah stuff happens but, not a pedo. That's all I'm saying. But also not a hero. Pedophiles, crackheads, vacuums. We've kind of covered the majority of it today. Conspiracy theories, government and sports books. Tim Trails. Yeah, this is a good show.
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