Move The Line - Final 2025 NFL Mock Draft & Rumors!

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

Dive into our final NFL Mock Draft to find out where your favorite 2025 rookies could be heading during the NFL Draft. Find out where players like Cam Ward, Shedeur Sanders, Ashton Jeanty, Travis Hunter, and more are heading in this early look of the NFL Draft. Subscribe to 4for4's Betting Package 👉🏼  https://www.4for4.com/plans Sign-up on FanDuel Today 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/go/fanduel Follow 4for4 on Twitter 👉🏼    / 4for4football  Follow 4for4 Bets on Twitter 👉🏼    / 4for4bets  Follow Move the Line on Twitter 👉🏼    / movethelinenfl   Follow Connor on Twitter 👉🏼    / connorallennfl  Follow Ryan on Twitter 👉🏼    / rynoonan   Visit our Website 👉🏼  https://www.4for4.com/Join our Discord 👉🏼    / discord  Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3OupraJ 4for4 Betting Strategy Hub 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3hm39cw4for4 Betting Picks 👉🏼  https://4for4.co/3LUp0Ea NFL Betting Odds & Predictions 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3nsW9QU 

Hello and welcome to move a line draft day is upon us mock drafts are submitted pencils down but we still have opportunities to take advantage of the betting market. I know these gentlemen were both up late as was I trying to parse through news noise that's final mock submissions. Connor, what's going on buddy? Yeah, not much turned on a little draft action in the back. It's like a yearly routine, finalize my mock draft. I mean, horrible movie, but I love it. It's just like, you know, guilty pleasure to watch it.

And so, yeah, it was great. Finalized the mock draft and feeling, you know, fine. I would say feel good about our positions. Very much fine about the mock draft. Yeah, I had to find the Bill Burr clip from years ago. I had to soak in that clip last night to make me feel really bad about myself spending all this time basically, you know, going to a graduation that I don't know anybody involved, which is the great bill burr clip. If you've not seen it, I tweeted out this morning. It's fantastic. It'll make you feel real bad about spending a ton of time sweating, handicapping and watching the draft. Fantastic content. Scott, what's going on with you, buddy? How are we doing? Getting my phone blown up from random people and

friends of friends about what to bet. So, oh yeah, who's going here? Arante, Ursary getting drafted nine to the Saints. It's just all over the place this morning. Yeah, it's busy. So I'm sure you guys, if you're hanging out with us this morning, we appreciate it. Jump in the chat. Let us know what you're thinking about. What questions we can answer for you.

We got a good deal of those yesterday. I thought made for fun back into the show. So any questions you have let us know Bets mocks your team news noise all that different stuff. Um Connor what was the biggest sticking point for you last night in terms of submitting the final mock draft wrestling with What that looks like, all the news that we've taken in obviously in the last three, four months. And then obviously that ramps up here pretty drastically in the last three, four days. Yeah, I would say it's at like six and seven here because I feel reasonably good about

the top five. I think there could be a trade in the top five, which we can talk about here, um, you know, pretty, pretty quickly because the odds on the bears to take Gentie now up to minus one 80 on Fandool. I mean, there's been some rumblings about it for the last, I don't know, 24, 48 hours, Edila like tweeted something out about it, uh, which who's had some good Jag stuff in the past. He was with us on the whole trade on Walker thing, you know, way back when. Um, but.

Like I think either way Gentie probably goes number five and then so for me it was tough You know do the Raiders there's been a lot of Kelvin Banks team at six Connecting Steve Sarkeesian and Pete Carroll and with Colton Miller's contract. Maybe they prefer banks. He's a little bit more versatile, too He doesn't have to play left tackle right away. He could play somewhere else so like a lot of dock connecting there but like I Think most of the big mock drafters like a lot of them switched to banks over membu Charlie Campbell still second with membu I put banks but I think there's a little bit of fall out there because I'm pretty sure the Jets like banks more than

membu too, so I Was stuck between Warren and membu at seven And so I went back and forth on it like 10 times. And then, you know, it got to the point. It was like a Vonte Mac no matter what, you know, like point in the movie and draft day and I was like, you know what? I'm just going to put Memboo in there. I think it's still viable.

Oline's a more premium position. They're just going to go that direction. So that was what I wrestled with for like a way too long last night, to be honest. Yeah, it's a tough one for sure. I mean, we had heard internally some stuff that we're involved in, you know, groups that we're in had heard a little bit of the banks stuff a few days ago. So from a different source and different relationships.

And when we started to get some of that bank steam yesterday, they made me feel pretty good about that. Cause I agree that was a tough one to parse through here. Scott, same question. Yeah. I kind of had a little bit of the same issue for me. I went bank six. We we've been talking about banks since he was like at over under 18 and a half. And then when it bounced down to 13 and a half and, uh, hammered it a little bit then, but, um,

I just think it comes down to the versatility of Kelvin Banks. I think the other thing you look at throughout the process is sometimes you have to go back to where your evaluations were at going into the combine. And the combine performance of Armand Mbou was one of the things that shot him way up, even though a lot of teams think he's just strictly a right tackle. That's what it came down to for me. Um, if you're going to slot him in the top 10, I think that makes more sense to the jets, although I, you know, the thing that I've heard is it's, it's Tyler Warren, Kelvin banks and arm on member in that order for the jets.

Um, so for me, my mock draft, I ended up with member as a, you know, fallen outside of the top 10. Um, cause I went Warren, but I think it's a good argument. We've had it before. It makes a little bit more sense for me, if I was a GM, to go ahead and fill that right tackle spot and then shoot for tight end in the second round. But that's where it was.

The other thing that I had is this whole Shadua Fander situation. I just don't think he's a fit for the Giants. I tend to think, and you're getting a lot of information that he is a fit for Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh likes Jackson Dart. I don't know if Pittsburgh will end up with Jackson Dart, but I think Pittsburgh has some other issues with not having second round pick Pittsburgh likes Jackson Dart. I don't know if Pittsburgh will end up with Jackson Dart, but I think Pittsburgh has some other issues with not having second round pick and some other things so I could kind of see them moving down.

So I don't have Shider Sanders in my first round of my mock. I think there's some real issues there. I think teams are gonna be weary of the whole Dion lingering in the background if anything goes wrong. Just look at what's going on with LeBron and his kid, like in the NBA. And I think Dion got just a big, if not a bigger, could come in here and end up possibly being a coach one day

for any of these teams. So I don't think it fits for the Giants. I think Pittsburgh has a few other things with Aaron Rodgers to fall back on. And from what I hear Cleveland sitting right now at 34 or 33 wherever they're 33 excuse me in the second round. So it's going to be interesting but I don't have Chidor so that's where I was at last night. Connor, where did you land on Chidor? Did you have him in?

No, no, I went with one quarterback, cam ward one, no one else in. I think someone probably sneaks in. I'm kind of getting the vibe that sealers don't take quarterback. Again, I just continue to hear like three different things, three different, you know, tons of different people. It's like just every different quarterback they think is a lock there. And again, I retired that from the quarterback market of betting. So I just not bet it. and I left it alone in my mock

Like I think that I think one of them could probably sneak in like a team trading up makes sense into the first round I don't know I just like to me I couldn't find a spot for it and I left a couple guys out of the first round that I think I probably should have been put in even with that we even with leaving the quarterbacks out. So Yeah, I didn't I didn't have anyone in there. Yeah, that was a tricky spot for sure. I did the trade. Um, I was talking about it, but I put him in at, uh, 24 to Cleveland had the Vikings, uh, trading out of the first round and had him Cleveland treating back in at 33 to 24 is not a huge jump in terms of, you know, just raw draft capital before we start

Cleveland technically has the second most, they got a good amount of picks. Um, it was a relationship there with, you know, questy and Barry and, you know, previously working there together and all the ties that we had to Cleveland from the jump of why we thought Chidora was a viable pick and number two, if they deemed the quarterback was the play are still there. And obviously again, you know, connecting your, uh, the Colorado teammates, I think could be a pretty interesting, uh, choice there for the organization. So that was, that was a tricky one. Matthew Gold was hard for me.

I was telling you guys before we got started, like, you know, I wanted to hold strong on some tech stuff and that being first receiver, that being kind of, you know, again, the astronaut meme that it was, you know, Ted all along. And then you really struggled to find a spot for golden. So golden all the way down to 18, you know then he really struggled to find a spot for golden. So golden, uh, all the way down to 18, you know, you've heard some talk about Rams maybe would want to be interested in golden there. It's really hard to find a spot for receiver.

He doesn't feel like a Packers prospect to me necessarily. Like I think we thought that, you know, tech could be, did you end up with Ted 23 to the Packers, Connor Yep. Okay. Well, I joined it with Tats got, try to come back to you, Connor. Sorry. So we talked about the trade and as soon as we got off yesterday, I was kind of hitting you up in the DMS asking what you thought, but I made the trade. I have Chicago going up to five for agenti and I have, uh,

the Jaguars taking tech Macmillan at a 10. Okay. That feels pretty good this morning. Uh, based off of some stuff that we may be hearing, and I have the Jaguars taking Tet Macmillan at 10. Okay. That feels pretty good this morning, based off of some stuff that we may be hearing. There's some, you know, tap movement in the markets there too. Connor, before I interrupt you,

you were gonna say something else. No, I was gonna say, I mean, the whole trade, like I do believe that the Jags trading down from five to 10 would mean Tet 10. So like, I didn't have that trade, but if I did have that trade, probably would have had Ted 10th instead. So, especially because I had Graham going eighth it's over Jalen Walker. I know that was another sticking point for us too. Was Jalen Walker versus Graham.

Scott and I think I think you wound up with Walker. Nuna, what did you do? I went Graham. You want Graham? Okay. Yeah. I think some people have flipped. I think Norris flipped. A couple other people flipped to Graham as well. Um, I don't know some questions about his size and you know, just a couple of different questions there. I think, I don't, I mean, there's plenty of questions about Graham too. So I don't know. I think at this point it's probably 50 50 to be honest, but you know, I think,

I think the group feels the same here. I don't know, Scott, did you end up feeling strongly about Walker? It was kind of just like, I think it makes the most sense cause it's been there for awhile. And I felt two ways. One, I feel like you've heard nothing but positive things connecting Jalen Walker to Carolina. Um, I would be absolutely pissed at myself if I moved off at a Walker pick last second and he's still the pick.

But I think there's other outs there. Carolina is a team that you've talked that this has been mentioned about wanting to move down. And I think with Mason Graham possibly sliding, I think you could have a team move up. I think the situation San Francisco's got a lot of picks. I could see San Francisco moving to eight and taking Mason Graham. And I could see Carolina moving back a few picks and still getting Jalen Walker.

So I stuck. I have Mason Graham at 11. I have Jalen Walker at eight. So that's kind of where I ended up. I had a little bit of a struggle with Mason Graham versus Walter Nolan at 11. That was kind of an issue. So that's kind of where I landed with those guys. That was kind of an issue. So that's kind of where I landed with those guys.

We all are on a island in a sense. We are all on the Tyler Booker 9 to the Saints Islands. It's lonely, but I got my two friends with me there. I think Dagle jumped on with us. Yeah, he's riding that set. Okay. So we can set the deck chairs on the Titanic and all go down together. Nice. Take it will be there last and tell us he was there first. So that makes for a good story time for the three of us, you know, four of us to be there together. So again, you know, unique spot. I think,

you know, again, personally offensive line to the saints would be, you know, a massive win for my betting portfolio because again, we took advantage of some marketing efficiencies when it felt like pretty early that quarterback to the saints wasn't happening in nine and the market shifted pretty drastically with the Derek Carr news. So we'll see what happens there. Good questions in the chat.

Playable number for Ted at 10. There were some sevens out there this morning. I think we're like three 50, three, three 54. That's not bad to be honest. I don't know. I don't know if I would play that. Would you play that you you're like, okay. So hypothetically Warren verse Ted, do they go Ted? I mean, I made the pick Warren, I think Warren makes a ton of sense. I mean, those are two guys for sure that you know, that I've been in on. So I'm

not surprised that it that we're here that it's, you know, Warner, Ted, we're getting I think some reliable source stuff on the reporting that it would be Ted if they were to make the trade that I feel pretty good about. I'd love to see that for maybe some, you know, national beats or anything like that. But, uh, you know, I, I grabbed some seven and I have a variations of, you know, top 10 that are kind of already covering it. So I'm not trying to go super crazy feel much better for it was a warrant, but, um, you know, I don't know if you don't have any of it.

I don't hate three 50, uh, for four to one, if, if no one has any of it based off of where we're trending now. I had a 20 to one in my bet slip the other day and I just, you know, like a fish didn't finalize it. I thought about it and I was like, ah, nah, you know, yeah, looking bad right now. But, but you know, I did, what I did find, I was going through all my bets for this year, which, uh, you know, up to way too many I found because we were on this show, I found a Kelvin banks to go sixth overall at 35 to one that I bet live during the show. Um, so obviously hindsight should have been

more, I think him and Mambo were like co-favorites right now depending on the site. Um, but yeah, that would be, that would be a good hit. You know, it's Kelvin Banks season. Kelvin Banks will make or break this draft I think for me. The Booker stuff's all long. The Booker stuff is all like you know really long so it's not not a big not big risk massive upside. And I stand by where we're at I think we're I mean just came out 30 minutes ago you had someone talking about how Jackson Dart's gonna go nine again after we already went through this whole carousel of it's not going to be a quarterback and it's not going to be Tyler Warren, it's not going to be Gentie. Oh, it's going to be offensive

line. They actually, no one's going to be there, but still going to be offensive line, which is kind of partially how we arrived at Booker. I know sure enough, shout it out on his, on his stream and in his discord as well. Someone was trying to get like 20 K fill at Prophet X on Booker recently. So we're not alone. You know, like there, there's other people out there who think about us. We're just, maybe the only, uh, only people publicly, you know, putting them in our mock drafts at none.

Yeah. One of the things to kind of hit on with Booker, um, we got the information like days ago. Um, I tried to, to get direct confirmation from some people down here in New Orleans. That didn't necessarily happen, but we saw other peripheral things start popping up from a few other places like outside of this area, along with some money getting pushed on it heavily. Um, and the thing that, that makes me really comfortable with it is from Nick Underhill, from a number of other places you've heard these non consensus top three offensive linemen, whether it be Connerly, whether it be some

of these other guys all getting linked here to New Orleans. And so for us to land on Booker as being the right guy, and what I'm hearing this morning is that the Saints are looking to trade down a few spots. There's some teams that are interested in Mason Graham, some teams that are interested in possibly Jaylen Walker. I think Booker is very much in play, especially when you start looking at Kelvin Banks, Tyler Warren, those guys in my mock draft, at least being off the board. I think the Saints would be live with Booker at nine.

And I think the Saints would be live if they trade back a few spots for Booker. Yeah, making them was doing the thing that called them out for never doing training back. But again, this is one of those things where touched on so many teams are wanting to trade back. Connor made the reference that like every team from New England to Chicago is at some point looking to trade back. Connor made the reference that every team from New England to Chicago is at some point

looking to trade back. It speaks to the nature of this draft. I think it's going to be even crazier than we think. So the perception of Dell in the chat, Booker is a reach. Sure. But part of it is that there's so much, there's a handful handful of positions that have a ton of depth, you know, defensive line, both edge and interior offensive line. Some of these guys are swing guys that could play, you know, maybe they don't think that they're going to be an actual left tackle and they have to kick to the right side or have to kick to a guard. And what happens is you get these, these individual team depth charts or big boards that look very different. So our perception of where you think Booker should go because you saw multiple mocks three weeks ago, had him in the 20s versus where he is now.

Like, it's all very subjective to the team. And at this point, we're kind of mocking members off the board. Banks is off the board. Campbell's off the board. This team is prioritized offensive line. You know, there's not a lot left. That's how you get the Connerly's, you know, whatever the Minnesota kid, like all these kids all, you know, suddenly are going to go inside the top 10.

It's because the team is deemed offensive line to be their need. So yeah, it's, it's, I think it's going to be chaos. I think actually because of that, you're going to have more trades than maybe normal. Be honest, the more I'm thinking about the way teams are jockeying based off of their own boards. Jim in the chat mentions reports say Jags are trying to move up to two. I mean, literally every single team should be trying to call the top three teams to see if they can get in. We know that Tennessee is not taking calls anymore. There are two blue chip prospects. Everyone should pick up the phone to see if they can get in the mix, see if they can kind

of just poke around. And if not, you're failing at your job as a front office and general manager. So I don't think there's a lot of necessarily steam that we should be considering in terms of Jacksonville picking up the call, doing their due diligence to just say any interest. We would love one of the blue chippers. So I wouldn't worry too much about anything like that. I mean, Andrew Barry's not trading away show you a tiny, like that's just, I mean, that's the reality.

Like, you know, I think, you know, my only regret is that we didn't bet more on Travis Hunter when it was back when it was uncertain, you know, like, I know I played a little bit, you know, 13 to one. And this is again, a good reminder for us next season when things are still uncertain early on, like Schaeffer tweets out about Abdul Carter starting to be the favorite. Travis Hunter's 13 to one.

Shudder Sanders, like seven to one at the time. And they were both like, you know, all in the mix prior. Obviously, Hunter, one looks way better, but I think it could have gone either way. Like, I still think that like playing both of them is the right decision. So, yeah, I mean, it mean it's crazy, crazy odds there and Hunter is basically, I think the top four basically just locked. I keep seeing, there's a bet on bet 365 by the way, the bet 365. They have the top four exact, only minus 250 of Ward, Hunter, Carter, Campbell. I'm not buying any pats gentee pats

Walker they're picking will Campbell like I you know, I feel very very very strongly about that So yeah minus 250 is like 200 short of the market right now in Campbell yeah, and you know again new England would love to move down but that's like the toughest spot I think to trade in the entire draft because You have to give I guess the most to get up that high. It forces you forces New England down to probably a range they don't want to go to. Uh Ryan in the chat mentions too uh the Giants, Mars change directions last minute and

grab Dart at three. We'll obviously change everything. Uh we're getting references to Dart to Nine Whispers. Look, I mean, I made the reference yesterday. I put it in my mock this morning. The only like real wrinkle that I think is possible inside that top four is the giants simply because of the ownership group simply may be getting involved in just being like, yeah, I mean, we, you like both are on the hot seat and like, we want a quarterback in the future. We know that, you know, Russ is not that, uh, the, you know, the,

the James Winston deal is very, very team friendly. Um, where you're not like, Hey, you can't take another quarterback. So, you know, doing that at three seems really aggressive considering, you know, just reading the market and having a better understanding of that. But, um, these rich owners kind of call the shots. We saw this years ago. We felt like CJ Stroud stuff was, you know, already locked in from what we were hearing it. Um, you know, a pick one with Carolina and then, you know,

ownership gets involved and things change. So, um, I don't feel like that's happening. I still kind of with the guys here, I think of the giants do acquire a first round quarterback. It is after acquiring one of the blue chippers in the draft at three, Abdul Carter. So, no, that's a great point. I think that's like, yeah, that's fantastic point.

I want to say though, we, so we just got, I got sent a tweet here from, you know, someone on our Discord from Jane Slater saying, throwing you a possibility, hearing a few more, few teams and agents today, O-line for Saints one put it like or get there so she mentioned Josh Connerly if banks and Membo go they might panic uh and like remember they might like you know their team that wants to build from the inside out said that they're not having much luck trying to trade down

right now i mean this is this is exactly what we said it's not i mean i don't blame you if you want to throw it's like 101 on Connerly if you you want to throw a little bit of Connerly, sure. Maybe we're wrong there, but I think the sourcing here on like kind of directionally what's happening makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I have a Connerly ticket. It's not 100. So maybe I need to agree on more. Well, what is it at? Maybe I made that up. I mean, I don't want to cite fake lines, but I'm pretty sure I thought it was really long. Yeah. I have a 49 on Connerly, but same premise, right?

Like swimming in the same uncertainty and just the Saints wanting to get an offensive lineman and trying to pinpoint the guy. But I still think it's like two to one. Maybe it moves considerably because there was a lot of consensus on it moving to, you know, you Michael Williams and that being kind of the chalk. So maybe we get better prices on saints offensive line, but that was pretty good a couple of weeks ago. So let's see. Yeah.

Dart now second quarterback in the marketplace because of this news, which is pretty fascinating. in the marketplace because of this news, which is pretty fascinating. Jeff, do you believe that the Bears trade to four rumors to take Gentile? No, I believe the Bears trade to five rumors for Gentile. You need to get off of Nesson and get into some of the national stuff, Jeff. You just listen to the Boston stuff specifically. Of course, the Pats would love to trade four and but that's, I don't think that's happening. Yeah, no, I totally agree. Jacob said we're at the 101 at, yeah, I misspoke. It was 100

to one, it looks like three days ago, which might as well be a year ago in draft time. So now we're looking at 19 to one. I mean, hey, you know, it's worse, but it's been made. I'm probably not going to make it. I'm already in pretty deep, but yeah, it's fine. Yeah. Considering that Saints to go all line was like plus 950 on FanDuel not that long ago. Now we're, you know, it's getting pretty rich for specific players, which is great. Last night you were still able to get good numbers on the saints because they still had mckell Williams plus three 50 plus 400 ish spots. So yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's still not bad. I mean, um, I mean, what's seems to go offensive line, I think is still like three to one or so. Um, like two to one, I think is like, okay. Well, maybe, I don't know. It's like, yeah, two to one ish. I think a little bit higher, but they're, don't know. It's like, yeah, two to one ish, I think a little bit higher. But they're they pulled it. Someone mentioned that in the chat,

they pulled it on DraftKings and Fandle and Bet365, just Saints entire position thing. Well, yeah, Jacksonville entire position thing is not up. Which is annoying. But that's yeah, that's not up. Because I think you know, that could be a way to get back into the tech stuff if that comes back. Jacks to go receiver is, is maybe a way to go. So we see here anything else, Scott, that you want to touch on in terms of the mock that you struggled on?

Then I'm gonna knock into some, uh, some questions or anything you're thinking today, anywhere you want to take it. Yeah. I mean, I hit on, on the giants, taking, um, Jackson Dart and him going as a second quarterback. That was the conclusion I came to last night. I have him as a trade back to think Buffalo trading slightly out. And I think Washington might be more of a area for them to trade in. And Minnesota certainly as well.

I ended up in my mock drafts for scoring purposes on mock drafts being a little less settled with who Buffalo was taking. So that was kind of the reasoning why I had the Giants trading. It's just a matter of trying to get points for the Giants getting back into the first round with Dart and Buffalo was kind of the team I was uncertain on. So that was where I moved them. I struggle. One of the markets that I think is kind of interesting right now is this defensive back market with Jadé Baron and Will Johnson and all. I have Will Johnson out of my first round. I just struggled to find a place. I considered him there in Arizona. I considered him with Buffalo, with the Rams. It's just hard to slot a guy like him who probably runs close to a 4-6,

who possibly has a debilitating knee injury that may make him a one contract player. I just struggled with it. So it was just one of the things that I had to take stand, and he was one of the guys that dropped out. So that's kind of where I landed, and I think there's some good numbers still on Jadé Baron to hit in a certain a few areas. But that's, that's really kind of it as far as my mock draft, as far as where I landed. I kind of where you at in terms of the corners, did you end up going um, parent over Johnson or? Yeah, I think I ended up having Johnson at 17 or 16 of the Cardinals.

I heard that they like him, so I just went with that. The Cardinals were kind of a tough team. I think that, but I think Barron isn't out at 13 with the Dolphins, which, you know, I had Jaylen Walker fall a little bit, so I had him kind of going there, but I think Barron is out to 13, 17, and then kind of in the mid 20s in my opinion So yeah, definitely more outs. He's minus 190 to be the first corner drafted the first defensive back drafted actually Sorry, then will Johnson plus 380 Starks plus 650

Harrison plus 600 and then I'm in worries 27 to one who's had like a pretty big fall honestly the last like couple weeks just haven't heard much about him since the combine since he was like awesome just because we just don't really know if he's that good of a player to be honest like that's kind of the problem. So he had his heyday at the you know shorts and t-shirt Olympics and then you know now hasn't done anything since so I don't know I wouldn't lay minus 200 on Baron to be honest I know just got to know him in the round, but minus 200 just seems pretty aggressive, especially when you have Malachi Starks who could go 13th, could go early 20s ahead of Baron.

I don't know. I mean, it's all possible. Baron is though, I still think has, I put him 13 to the Dolphins. It has been, it seems to be a pretty popular spot. I also went 16 with Johnson, but I also think like the Baron range is pretty vast. It's not a market that I want to be jumping into.

And yeah, I agree with Scott. Johnson was really hard to mock. The Cardinals were a hard team to mock too. When I look at that roster, I mean, they really need some perimeter corner help. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, but the Will Johnson redraft process has been almost as bad as anyone's, right? In terms of like perception heading into the start of the season and where we are now, like porish play, not running, not participating in a bunch of stuff. Like, you know, I understand why there's, you know, the sentiment is what it is.

Uh, and where it's been trending now, it feels years away from, uh, Walter and Charlie locking in that Will Johnson six to the Raiders. Um, yeah. Yeah. No, the Raiders Yeah, no, I saw why I DM Charlie like three weeks ago or two and a half weeks ago It was like asked my the will Johnson stuff cuz he had will Johnson at six for like forever And I was like, what's the deal, you know, and he was didn't respond to me and then finally today 1045 a.m. I get a response. Yeah, they're not taking will Johnson man. Sorry, you know the the thing didn't go to me and then finally today 10 45 a.m. I get a response yeah they're not taking will Johnson man sorry you know the the thing didn't go

well or whatever the press I'm like yeah thanks man like three weeks late like you know no one's mocking him at six anymore we all know that so so I tried to ask him about anything else he hasn't answered yet sure busy yet today but uh you know thought that was funny I was like you know it's a little bit late here because it but buddy the way he, the way he answered, it made it seem like we'll Johnson wasn't play. And I think that if you had a good pre-jeff process, he probably would be in play. But now I think, I think Memboo banks, maybe we're banks makes more sense to be honest.

Yeah. It just did out cause they put out pretty high volume amount of mocks, both Charlie and Walter, and they were locked in consistently where no one else was. So it was like, you know, is there some there there? That's worth exploring, right? I think, you know, parsing through some mocks that you respect is important to try to see if there's, you know, a rabbit hole to go down because you never know what could be there. So let's see what else we got here in the chat here. Here Nolan is a red flag. Yeah, we touched

on red some red flags. I don't know if it's because he played for so many schools. I feel like there's some off the field stuff that we've heard there as well. But did and there was some prominent mocks that didn't have Nolan in the first round, which is, you know, yesterday was the full Nolan experience, right? You had like Nolan going eight to Carolina, Nolan not in mocks in the first round at all. So it was like, woo, um, where did you end up with him? Scott? I ended up putting Nolan 16 to the Cardinals. Um, I kind of went through things and I think Nolan getting some steam in the top 10 is

legitimate. I don't necessarily have a good match for him there in the top 10. But I think some teams are going to like his talent level. I could see him going anywhere from 11 to San Francisco all the way down to 17 with the Bengals. I landed on him there. He had a top 30 visit with with the Cardinals. I think the Cardinals could be looking to get some interior pass rush going. So that's kind of where I landed with him.

Yeah. I liked it. I had a hard time with that one too. I ended up going 17 to the bangles, um, with him as well. Connor, did you end up having Nolan in your first round? So where'd you put them? Yeah. I had an 11 to the Niners. I wondered if my guy, my guy, Lobbs tweeted again. Let's see. I haven't, I haven't looked at him. I don't know. I have like notifications on for him or anything. Um, but he doesn't even follow me back, which now tweets name number one, not name number two, tween Adam right now. I got lobs on the show.

Dell's asking about, uh, Tyler Warren Scott. Um, you know, we kind of stated some of these things, but in terms of Tyler Warner, the Saints, anything to expand on there? Yeah, I just have them going off my board to the Jets. I think the Jets are fully in on really two people. I think it's going to be one of the tackles or Warren. And I look at some of the information that came out last year, linking them to Brock Bowers. And it just might have some resentment from maybe not making one of those moves last year, linking them to Brock Bowers. And it just might have some, some resentment from maybe not making one of those moves last year. So I just landed on Warren and some of the information

I had, had Warren listed higher than are my memboo. And so that was just where I landed. And I think if he's off the board, then the Saints aren't gonna have a much of a choice to deal with it. So, yeah, it's a tricky one for sure. Um, Drew says about three to one for Ted to go anywhere in the top 10 on Fandool. Um, that's probably a better way to play it to be honest. Okay.

You think so or no? I mean, look, we're the outs outside of it though, right? Do we think that there are other outs? What if they just, well, no, they stick and pick at five and it's not gente and they don't actually don't Even want gente in there one t-mac Hmm, I mean that's hot. Then you should have been you know should have been a t-mac rider I'm not a good Mac rider. I'm just you know, I'm trying to kind of lay out the the different opportunity like different I'm still not even sold that the old genti thing even makes sense to be honest. No, I know you're not. Yeah. I'm like, I'm very skeptical. I mean, I'll, I hope it's a, the best outcome for my bets at this point, to be honest, but

I'm skeptical. So it's probably safer, right? You get more outs. One of the bets I made, look, it's, it's a long shot. I parlayed a little bit of Tyler Booker and Ted McMillan top 10 today, right around plus 2000. So that's hot. Spicy. Hey, we're here, man. We're, this is again, this is a very safe crowd. We are here. Um, you know, I, I'm just mad myself for, you know, allowing the masses, the mainstream NFL media, um media and then YouTube bozos that talk me out of the tech stuff that I've been holding onto today because my bags would be packed already.

But you know, we got sprinkles, but we're okay. We're okay. It'll be all right. You had a question. You know, tell me about two Jahad Campbells. He's referring to my tweet from last night where I said like guys are going to fall.

And I said, Jahad Campbell twice. I mean, it was like, I don't know. It was like 11 something after the mock. I was like just tired and I was like, all right, I want to send a fire tweet. And I said Jahad Campbell, coastal and Loveland and Jahad Campbell all fall that due to medicals. So the second one was supposed to be Derek Harmon, but thanks Jeff. Very classic Jeff comment there. Classic aggregator Jeff in chat.

Where did you end up with? Todd Campbell. 27 to the Ravens. Okay. I can get behind that. I have some 25 to one Ravens first pick linebacker. Wow. I mean, obviously I think he's awesome.

There's a lot of steam for him at 16 now. Uh, I don't know if I buy that, but I mean, I think that there's, there's definitely some steam there. Yeah. I think the same for Arizona specifically when it comes to G Hyde Campbell is that Monte Austin for it. Um, while he's made moves with trades, he's been one of the GMs that has been a little bit more lenient as far as dealing with players and taking players that maybe have some negative

negative medical red flags. And so that's one of the reasons I mean, from a talent standpoint, that's probably where jihad should be. And if you have a GM that's gonna overlook that, the cardinals make a lot of sense. Yeah. Um that's again that was one that I'll kick when he goes sixteen tonight. That's another one that I'll keep myself because I've been sixteen Campbell the entire time. Uh there will be some really interesting discourse in Cardinal circles because again they have Steve Klein PTSD with Zayvin Collins and Isaiah

Simmons with off ball linebacker selections is I think a different player, different front office, different decision makers. But I did end up going didn't have the slide going too far. I put him at at 19 to Tampa Bay, which I think is also an absolute home run selection for them if he is there. So let's see what odds would you give Milro involving into a Lamar Allen style prospect versus AR, which that hurts my heart. I'm still holding out the, still holding out for AR.

Get another Island I'm dying on alone. I don't know. This is not, not high. I would say much more AR than Lamar Allen. 1000%. We're talking about league MEPs. Which, yeah, I think Milro's parents wouldn't tell you that he's, he's that necessarily. So is it bad? I think that like a median outcome for him would be kind of like what we just saw from Anthony Richardson last season. Like that's like, that would be like maybe 40, 40th percentile, like at least in his second year or whatever. Like I think that would be,

that's about right. Tyler Huntley is very much in his range of outcomes. There you go. Snoop. Yeah. I mean he can run. He's a big boy and he can move, right? Like, you know, I understand a little bit of the appeal, betting on traits. I think his best bet is for a team to draft him, not to be a starter at all, have some packet stuff that he could come in on, get his feet wet throughout the preseason and with some of these packages.

And hopefully you start to see something in year three. Yeah. This is a tricky one too, right? Um, you know, so I was thinking about this a little bit this morning is someone who's really just trying to get Warren inside the top 10, you know, it gets a little tricky, right? So if he doesn't, if we do see that there's some sort of banks and bamboo combination at six, seven, um, eight Warren's in play long shot. I think you're still probably dealing with you know

20 to 1 plus for carolina to go tight end or more to go to carolina i think i have some of that from early in the process that's a possibility now we bring back into the fold the saints is a possibility but maybe if the saints go offensive line and they've locked into the bookers connerly's go offensive line and they've locked into the Bookers, Connerly's, Stimans, whoever of the world. And then we have 10, we're thinking that's the trade down spot for Jacksonville. And we've kind of deemed that as maybe a TET target. Then where's Warren? That could get a little bit tricky.

I've been thinking about that this morning and trying to make sure that I can cover the Warren top 10 bet if that doesn't fall. So any thoughts there, Scott? Yeah, I think the scenarios that you look at, it really comes down to let's just say Jags stick at five and go ahead and make that pick. Then then it's is Warren a fit for Chicago there, which is who a lot of people have him to. But there's some thought process that Colston Loveland might be a better fit for Ben Johnson if he sticks and picks a tight end at 10. He could fall to 14. I think the Colts have been making some some calls this morning trying to move up and it's rumored to be for a tight end, whether it be Loveland or, uh, or Warren.

So that's another team that we've heard maybe likes Loveland more than Warren too, which is tricky. And so it gets a little bit tricky, but what I fall back to throughout this entire process is that Warren has been a player that is universally seems like across the league thought of to be one of these upper tier prospects in this draft after the blue tip guys fall. So I just think he makes a lot of sense to the Jets. I think if the Jets don't take them, they go offensive line, but it was hard for me to get

off of them to the Jets. Yeah. That's why, you know, you said when Warren, because I feel like he's in need, he kind of checks the both trenches Stuff that we've heard from Gladstone in the front office and the offensive weapon stuff because yeah He's a really pretty dynamic football player and would be I think a great addition here Jeff has been on this hill when he pops into the chat You're dealing with I think August of 2024 mock drafts with Siobhan Rivel getting some steam going the first round this morning. We have seen some talk. I know he visited Buffalo, so I don't know that it would be necessarily before that. Maybe the Rams

is an option too. Peliceros mentioned it. And again, this is another prospect that very much was coming into the season Deemed to be there. But just again for a number of reasons is not Scottie. I make anything of of that news Yeah, I think I said it a couple probably last week sometime. I heard as far as like analysts that Revels thought to be like the second best cornerback in this draft had he not be hurt, had he not been hurt. I think he's a boundary corner, 6-3,

runs very very well, just hasn't been able to participate in this process due to injury. So not getting to finish, not playing against the highest level of competition and going through this process, I think there's a lot of teams that like him. Ben Standig said that Washington's done a lot of competition and going through this process. I think there's a lot of teams that like him. Ben Standig said that Washington's done a lot of work and that he's highly thought of as far as going right there at the top end of that second round. I just think the injuries make it difficult for a team to pull the trigger there, especially when you're going to have a lot of these teams that we talked about

possibly moving up to get one of the quarterbacks. I think it's more likely for one of these teams and revel to be more of a secondary option for one of these teams, like a Minnesota, Minnesota decided to move back out of the first round. Um, I think Minnesota is a team that could be very much look at. Should have an interval. Yep. Could be interesting.

Uh, why nobody thinking giants get Gentian three in Dartmouth roll later. I mean, disaster. I mean, absolute disaster of a move for an office wise. That's probably why no one's talking about it. It would be the ultimate like, you know, bounce back the other way, like, Oh, trying to overcompensate for your past mistakes of like not paying Saquon. And then drafting gente at three over I mean, I don't even think Carter's an awesome fit for them. But at least I mean, he's like a blue chip player

You know, he's he adds more juice to the pass rush The whole house is gonna be built out of pass rush for the Giants right now, which is yeah I mean they didn't know I agree and again pass rushers You know most of these guys actually to be honest like cave on Thibodeau is one of the rare ones that plays, you know, close to almost every snap plays a lot of snaps compared to the native talking about possibly trading him. So I think 1000% he's on the table to move right. So because otherwise you keep all three, you know, he becomes a guy that maybe is better off not playing every down, he becomes more efficient, because he's a pretty

inefficient, you know, in terms of just pressure rate. He's not really lived up to the hype. So you could see them moving on from him. But again, just a rotation of three guys. The Giants have done it before pretty successfully, having a rotation. Really good teams are rotating their defensive ends. So yeah, that's, I get it. Gent is a great player. Positional value does still matter. And's, you know, I get it. Gendi is a great player. Positional value does still matter. And again, you have the Giants, the quarterbacks going one. There are two layup blue chip prospects in this draft.

You take one of those two dudes, you do not mess it up and figure it out the rest after that. Like, don't worry about need. Don't worry about already having Burns and Thibodeau. You take Carter and you figure out the rest after that. Like don't worry about need. Don't worry about already having burns in tibet You take harder and you figure out the rest later. Um, totally. Yeah. If my tickets aren't going to cash, I always root for chaos and that would cause the most chaos tonight. It would be fun. Yeah. It'd be so good. Yeah. Um, we got one here from Charlie Sinclair too. Shout out to Charlie. Uh, realistic that Loveland makes it to 22. That's where I had him in my mock. Where did you guys end up with? Lovelin in your mouth Colts or somewhere else. I have them to the Colts

and based upon the Preliminary information that's coming out to like early this morning. They're seemed to wanting to move up for him You had a lot of mocks come out. I don't remember who it was whether it was Schrager or Jeremiah But had Denver trading up to up for him I Just don't think he makes it to 22 and if I had to I had to put a percentage on it I think it's maybe like 20% he gets there. Yeah, I think it's probably a good number. I think he's Think he's gone in there enough teams where I think the Rams get heavily involved way before that

if you know the Rams to, to the Falcons, right? The Falcons, I think are great trade down spot at 15 we've touched on. There's a lot of commonalities between those two front offices and, uh, probably some good working relationships there. I think if Loveland makes it past, um, the Colts and his, you know, the Falcons are on the clock at 15. I think the phone rings and it's the Rams trying to get up to get Loveland. So, yeah, that makes sense.

Also real quick before he missed it, Steve, uh, where does my guy be? What is it? Be all shawl, Tutton, Tutton. Uh, where does he go? Uh, you ran a four, three, two. He's, you know, at 200 pounds size speed freak. No idea where he goes, but, uh, definitely good pick and fantasy. I think, you know, like Washington has shown interest.

All right. There you go. Second, second round, third round, probably fourth, third round. It'd be like third to fourth. Okay. There you go. All right. So Steve, you can tune in late Friday night, early Saturday morning

and see maybe where he goes. You'll get the notification on his phone. It's a Vtech guy. That's why he likes him. So he'll get the notification on his phone. There's no, no shot. He's watching day two or day three of the draft. Let's see here. They see the draft running back worth the first tab. Obviously we've seen some, uh, in Trivia and Henderson news there. Part of it for me at this point is like, it was 15 to one two days ago and then 12 for a little while. So 750, I feel like we're, you know, we're losing a little bit of steam. Um, I don't know. It's so hard when you get down to like the thirties, right? Like, you know, so many different things can happen to trade out spots.

Um, right. So the chiefs might not even pick tonight. That could be tricky. There's definitely another organization that might have some PTSD from a late thirties running back selection. You know, no one thought CEH was going to be what came of CEH. So it's very easy to say right now that Oh, Henderson's a different prospect than CEH because, you know, it was a little surprising but at the time, yeah, you never know. Ask on any thoughts on Henderson. I mean, obviously, I think we all want three running backs in the first round. So I didn't mock it, but I'm very much hoping it happens. Yeah, I struggled. I wanted to kind of slam Henderson in there. I just struggled to really find where I was comfortable. And I, I just think that's a luxury for Kansas city. Um, that offensive lines would let them down.

And I think this running back glass is so deep. They'll be able to find other guys that fit that they want to take a swing on later on. Kind of agree. And they added Elijah Mitchell, um, you know, who would be healthy for like four games, but maybe he gives them, you know some production in four games That depth chart so not a spot that I Think is a great spot. I really thought well, you know, if other commanders were a nice little spot there, too

What else we got I have a question for you guys have you guys looked at the Albright puzzle yet I Have and I completely gave up What have you looked at a in or no? No, I have not. So I looked at it and of course, because I'm a cheater, I just go immediately to the comments and look at for someone else to spend significantly more time than I have looking at it because I like look at these pictures. I was like, yes, means nothing to me. There are comments that like I think genuinely make some logical sense towards both Trevion Henderson and Omarion Hampton and I promise that whichever one

is selected there will be the answer to what Albright said. Yes. I agree. It was. Without a doubt. Completely could go either way. So the over and under now that you have to think about because he said he's gonna have an envelope and he won't pull it out live as the pictures made the extremely hard to predict the pick anytime out of the top 10. So like in non quarterbacks, like Knicks, I mean, no one is probably picking bonus for pick 12. So like, can understand

how you get that right. Pick 20. I mean, that's tough. Like it's, I mean, I'm worried and someone could take a Mario and Hampton or Travon understand before, I mean, not likely, but it's possible. So, um, I dunno, I, I understand it's hard. Uh, you know, I just think that the whole, the game around it is kind of funny. Um, I think it's, I understand it's hard. I just think that the whole, the game around it is kind of funny. I think it's interesting, especially in this spot where, again, it seems like there's two very logical outcomes. Gotta put the puzzle into chat GBT.

Honestly, this is probably a good, this is probably a good look. Give them a couple options and then see if any of them make the most sense. Oh boy. Yeah. Look, just get to Denver to take a running back first. Still, I think bettable put it out to plus 110. Where are we right now? We can go first position or team props. First position drafted. Where are we at right now? Denver to take a running back first. Been bent out a little bit. Minus 150 draft games, minus 160 on FanDuel. So I still am not, I would be very surprised if they were to trade up for Loveland after acquiring Evan Ingram or, you know, being a trade up or selecting one of the receivers would surprise me, but hey, here we are.

Hopefully Albright has all that covered in, for the big reveal. Maybe the big, maybe that, the puzzle is, is Colston Loveland and we are just all misinterpreting it. So, I mean, I would love to see Henderson go 20. Cause I think maybe it puts Pittsburgh pretty live to take Hampton at 21. I'd be very interested to see what happens with what would happen there.

So I think it's going to get crazy tonight, to be honest. I think it's going to be a little more wild than we think coming in here. 49ers D-line still just minus 125. Offensive line still very much in play there too. I've thought Corner was in play, but not with what we've seen from Will Johnson, because it feels like that would have been Will Johnson more than than Baron. Any thoughts there? I think we we all went defensive line for the Niners.

Any thoughts there, Scott? Yeah, I think you just look at like the some of the comments that you had come out of of Shanahan and I think he, he wholeheartedly believes that he can rebuild the offensive line. What's the second round type of talent? Um, I think you have Robert Sala coming back and you look at the free agency losses that they've had and I think it's firmly going to be defense. The case for this is it's unique. So the one place that skill really, really, I mean, skill matters for all positions. But in terms of how like again, not teaching anyone anything they don't know here, but football is played. I think edge rusher specifically is the one spot where you're going to go one on one a lot of times consistently where your skill set really, really matters.

It's easier to build through the offensive line a little bit later at times. Obviously love to have that top 10 anchor left tackle, but you're building a system and kind of a community at the offensive line position. Whereas if you have a chance to take a blue chip talent, top tier talents at edge, that dude has to really kind of beat his man to be successful more like the, you know, any other guy, right? You know, you're going to chip here. You're going to pass them off to the guard. Like there's lots of different ways where, you know, kind of the guys around you matter a little bit more. If you got a shot to take a Jaylen Walker that falls or, you know, Walter Nolan or someone like that

has to go up straight up and beat someone every snap he's on the field. I think that's why you see that mentality and you're like, Hey, I can, I can add someone in day two along the offensive line. I have some other pieces there can solidify and we can coach them up. They could fit better versus, uh, you know, passing on some really top elite tier talent along the defensive line. Uh, Millrow under 38 and a half plus one 20. You know,

it gets so tricky to the top of the first half of the draft or second round. So I stay, try to stay clear of that. So we've, you know, hear anything concrete. Do you guys have any, uh, leans there or any thoughts on, um, under 38 and a half? It almost feels like he's just the leftover at this point in time. I think the Saints are in on Shug, even with all the Dart stuff that's coming out. I think the Giants are in on Dart and I think Chador comes down to whether it's Cleveland or Pittsburgh. I tend to not think it's going to be Pittsburgh. But I just, I don't see that under 38. There's so many teams there that have to be in on Milro. I think Milro's further off from play. And so like a team like the Giants, I don't think he really fits where they're at. Unless they were to move down or completely miss out. So it's just hard for me to feel comfortable playing that at all.

Yeah. Yeah. No, I'd lean over. It's like if a guy doesn't go in like the late first, traditionally there aren't that many quarterbacks taking the top of the second for my understanding. So yeah. And then Brian also brought up, I played Chider over 21 and a half plus 140 yesterday. I mean, I think it's a little bit of mine here. Yeah.

I think that's price is still close to out there. If that's not the right price. Um, and I lean that way too. Um, I did not have him go into Pittsburgh. That's a Pittsburgh number basically, right? That's it. Do the Steelers take him? It's kind of it. Yeah. Uh, interesting thing here while we're on air, Breece Hall potentially is like, there's some issues there. Like, you know, he tweeted out a little peace sign and then some, I think underdog tweeted that like he's trying to trade him maybe or something like that,

or like potential availability for trade has increased within the last week and a half from Justine Anderson. I don't know. I mean, Ashton Denty now available at seventh to like jet straight up to five. Uh, to take him now. I don't think that's a possibility, but I think that they could be in play in the second round, maybe for running back. Um, one of those like, I don't know, Caleb Johnson ish, you know, if, if Henderson falls and like that, I think it'd be interesting.

And they, they were a team that I heard was interested in Henderson. I just don't think he makes it to him in the second round. Yeah. Reese Hall's really good. I don't know. Teams. Bad teams find ways to stay bad. It'd be very interesting. Yeah, I don't know that it affects the Jets, Jaffs, especially in round one. Josh's question here, like, not an impact in my opinion. Let's see, you guys got anything else?

Did you guys all mock O'Hamar and Hampton to the Broncos? I know we kind of touched on it because there's a team to draft Hampton. Broncos are minus 110, but like after that, it's like Steelers plus 850, commanders nine to one, Vikings 12 to 1 Bears Chargers Chiefs Cowboys I mean there's some pretty long prices if you want to like go down that like road of like if it doesn't go 20 like where does he go

there's definitely some value there I guess I'm just personally have the belief that he's gonna go 20 still I think I'm gonna go 20 if he doesn't go 20 I tend to think the team that would be very interested would be Washington. I think Washington could be in on on both Hampton and Henderson. And some of the mocks that had Henderson going to the to 20 to the Denver had Hampton going to Washington. So I think it does make sense. Yeah, I think Pittsburgh is also becomes very viable. I know they had them in, they met with all of them.

Pittsburgh is like, oh, they take who they meet. And then you go and look at who they met with. They met with everyone that you would think would possibly go in that range. It's not really, really easy to hone in on. Like Pittsburgh met with this guy and didn't meet with this guy. Like Pittsburgh did their homework.

They brought everyone in. So it made it a little bit harder to kind of parse through there. So interior defensive line makes a lot of sense. They pass on the quarterback. But I think if Hampton is there, that could very, very, very much be the play. Second off the board would be Mylene to the question here in the chat from Evan. We put him there. Over Henderson, who I think is maybe a little bit trickier to find a home for him.

But again, there's no King of Lambert of Broncos backers. I think that he's the play there too. So I have a question. What do you think Evan does for a living? Is he a real estate agent and accountant? That looks real estate to me. Nice for finance. Let's see. Evan will probably let us know.

Evan, what do you do for a living? Responding to chat. Yeah, some kind of business professional. Yeah, you have a much sharper picture than I've ever taken in my life, sir. You just throw Jeff's picture comparatively. Yeah, look at it. Look at this bozo.

It's not even far off from what he actually looks like. Is that a, is that a real shot right there? Like a live shot of Jeff? I think that's Jeff. Listen to the, we're not going to talk about kickers. Kickers on a show, you know, no teeth. So, I have an all, all in good fun. All good fun. Yeah. You look good, dude. You know, that's a compliment. Look at us. Like two of the three of us aren't even wearing pants. Yeah. You never even know.

You got to figure out what to do. I've got my, I got my, I survived the Snyder error shirt. It's a good shirt. The first draft I get to be happy for a little bit and 20 plus years. Yeah. Jacksonville makes a trade with Chicago, gets one of those two extra seconds, Hampton to the Jags. Maybe, maybe, um, I seem to, this is why the Jags to take Genti doesn't crack for me still. I mean,

I understand that Genti is a different prospect for sure. But I don't know, you know, you got Bigsby, you got, uh, you know, Etienne prioritizing. That makes a lot of sense. Uh, definitely Scott and Newton and painless minus one 40. I had the comfortably later juice. Um, I'd lay it, uh, Get that winter in there. Free roll some of your stuff for later. Ryan's comment is so good, by the way. What's that?

I noticed it's like the, what is it? What do they call that? Like the Cajun like drawl, you know, it's so good. Look down here is Jean T is what it is. Yeah. At first we first started like, you know, months ago, I thought we were talking about different player first. I struggle. I struggle trying to say Jin T. Yeah. So like it's, it's a, it's a struggle for me down here. I like it. It keeps it fresh, you know, but yeah,

I used to get harassed for my New England accent. I've tried to work really hard to diminish it and, you know, stay away from it. But I like that you lean into it a little bit. We might talk a little funny down here, but we know how to cook. So yeah, yeah, that's the wrong with that. Take that trade every day. Someone asked a question that I forgot to start that I'm trying to find Simmons to New Orleans or the sprinkle. I sprinkled it for the same reasons that we would sprinkle Connerly. Look, I mean, I told you guys when I did it too, when the Connerly stuff started to be coming out, this is a guy that like every time someone talks about him, it's hope he was healthy. He's a top 10 pick in the draft. Right? So if the saints are finally going, Hey, we can't keep kicking the can down the road from a salary standpoint, salary cap.

We're trying to kind of step back, have some maybe big picture thought, team building. Why don't we get a little bit of, uh, you know, buying, get this guy into the building, see if we can get healthy. And all of a sudden we have a left tackle of the future. That seems to make a lot of sense to me. So I did take some, uh, Simmons, you know, again, it's not something I would advise just spraying the board on, uh, on saints offensive alignment, basically is what we're trying to do. So that is a hundred to one. I actually checked this one before I said it.

That is how it is. Like it's a bad CLV. I got a 60. Oh man, that's funny. Yeah. So yes, the answer is yes. I would a hundred one. I would, I would sprinkle 10 bucks. What's 10 bucks? I mean, I don't know. This economy. Yeah, I don't know. All right, gentlemen, we're at the hour mark. We've done it. We've made it. Bets are in.

Maybe we'll bet some more. I'm going to push some stuff out into the Discord if we have anything official. I apologize. We don't push everything in through the Discord, partially because the betting the draft is such a unique event. I don't expect anyone to go on the betting journey that I am in splashing all these different things. Anything we feel really concrete about

and feel aligned with, we've tried to push out. We'll continue to still do that. Massive appreciation and thank you to all of you in the chat today, in the chat on any of the shows. This is again, one of our favorite things to do. Love being able to come in and talk ball with Scott and Connor. Often Scott is a fantastic of this gift for us to have his brain through this process. And we appreciate all the support through watching the shows jumping in the chat. So again, thank you to all of you subscribe again for four bets on

the YouTube channel move line where we listen to podcasts. We'll be back again to actually start talking the outcome of the draft and the fallout in terms of how this starts to impact on the field play, you know, betting into the futures market. You will probably get the schedule in less than a month to start to be able to have a better understanding on how to price, to win totals and have all those discussions here soon. So we appreciate all you guys very much for Scott and Connor. I'm Ryan. We'll see you all next time. Good luck everybody