Move The Line - LIVE 2025 NFL Mock Draft!

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

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the Hello and welcome to move the line. We are live right now doing a mock draft our first of the year all collectively. Joining me today is the legendary Scott Smith and hopefully soon Ryan Noonan having some tech

issues. It's draft season a season unlike any other for Noonan constantly causing tech issues, it's draft season, a season unlike any other for new and constantly causing, causing tech issues. I think last year he had some maybe two years ago, um, might have to send a soloist tech lords over to noon's house to help save him. But Scott, how are you doing today, man? Good, man. Uh, pretty pumped up to do this, a little exercise that we do.

And I think it gives you exercises in live mock drafts like this give you a insight of where you may be wrong or where you may be right. And then you start to see how the the board kind of lays out and it gets to have a little bit of a floating start to get comfortable with when you're doing your future mock drafts and stuff like that. And then, you know, taking taking in the most recent information that you have, you know, we had rough sign in there in New York Which I don't think really changes their drive plans I think some people are a little bit overreacting to this but it'll be an interesting room for sure if she door Sanders drops to Three and then you have should or Jamis and Russell in the same quarterback room

Yeah, that's certainly something we get it can get into because I think you can go definitely can go either way and I'm I Tend to agree with you. But yeah, we can definitely hop into that. Once we get to the Giants pick here. Um, first pick on the board, I think I would assume we'll just do this collaboratively and kind of just like bounce each other's opinions off one another. I mean, is there any doubt who's going number one at this point as it stands today? Like, is there anything that make you think that it's not cam ward? You have some argument for Abdul Carter, but I don't see how it's not cam ward. And when you're this bad and you're, you're up there picking number one,

it's for a reason. Usually it's quarterback. I don't think we've seen enough development out of Will Levis to have any level of, uh, you know, comfort there that, that he's going to be the answer and develop. So I think with everything that Cam Ward offers, like his arm strength, some of the scrambling, what you saw out of him there in Miami last year, I think he's easily going to be the pick. Yeah, I know that definitely makes sense there for sure.

Okay, we'll go with Cam Ward at number one. This is where things get interesting. Number two here, Cleveland Browns on the clock. Some talk about them signing Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson now with the Giants. Some talk about them getting Kirk Cousins. What do you think? Where do you think the Browns go here? My real issue with Kirk Cousins, I think Cousins would be a good fit for Stefanski and Cleveland there. But I just, where do they get the

money from? They just signed, you know, their their cornerstone piece, you know, on the defensive side of the ball to a huge contract, you know, you're dealing with Deshaun Watson, and his guaranteed money, he's not there. I just don't see, you know, Kurt Cousins really fitting in from a salary standpoint. He would have to take a huge cut and then you have to work out compensation for what they'd be willing to go ahead and give them.

I think from a fit standpoint, it works out well. It just, you know, everything I've heard from Atlantis, they plan on keeping them as a backup. I think that happens up until somebody, you know, everything I've heard from Atlanta as they plan on keeping them as a, as a backup, I think that happens up until somebody, you know, brings the right offer to them. Um, is that going to be Cleveland? How's that going to work out? I don't know at this point. Um, I tend to lean, I've tend to lend leaned a little bit more towards Abdul

Carter here at number two, but with the quarterbacks, you know, quickly falling off, I think, you know, Shador Sanders, if I had to make the pick today would be who I, who I'd go ahead and draft for Cleveland. I tend to think that, uh, I tend to think that they're going to pick Shader Sanders here as of today. Now, obviously another quarterback could come into play here and make a difference, but I mean, they have $5 million in cap room. Kirk cousins, I believe is anywhere from a 30 to $40 million cap hit this year. Uh, I mean,

you know, we're asking around for the cap people to confirm like what that would look like and how they could get around it. But it's, it's not something that seems super easy. I mean, I'm sure Atlanta could absorb some of that cap if they really want to trade in. But again, this is going to cost Cleveland, put Cleveland in a really tough cap situation considering Deshawn's contract. I'm going to have to give them a pick just to get Kurt Cousins who's like played terrible last year. I mean, at the end of last year, like literally looked awful. And look who we got arriving here.

What a disaster. First of all, I'll message you in the side that you're picking up on your audio from your computer. You go ahead and do a 30 second rant on mute. Scott tells you to do a 30 second rant on mute. You're going to have to do a 30 second rant on mute. Scott tells you you're on mute. Absolute trainist. This had the sex appeal of a school bus fire. So I arrived and I'm here to save the day. It is 1253, sir. It is 1253. I want to hear

none of this. None of the tech issues. I came in to join you guys. It wasn't picking up my mic and and my camera. I could do audio only, but that's not why people tune in. They want to see the aesthetics. So we are here. So I apologize. But thank God I'm here because it was it was rough for the day. Yeah, it was rough. I tried to mess with you was picking up your computer audio,. It was what are we in six minutes in here? Six minutes in. Yeah. I'm back. I'm ready. All right. Um, all right. Well, we'll hit the, we'll hit the tunes here again. I'm just kidding. Um, but yeah, we can go around the second pick. We're, we're talking about Chitra Sanders. I don't know how, how you feel, but, um, I think we're kind of in the boat that Sanders is going to be the pick here. Yeah, I mean, we touched on it, I think a little bit last week, you know, I don't want to read too much into the tea leaves of the Miles Garrett video, but I think there's

something to that. Like the guy wanted to trade and then resigns and then talks about how he's been involved or at least in the know of what the plan is quarterback wise. And that to me wasn't going to be Russell Wilson. That wasn't going to be a Kirk Cousins signing. It sounds like, you know, taking a step here and, you know, selecting the quarterback that is maybe flawed. You know, people I think still have, you know, making some player evaluations, big board evaluations in terms of mocking. It's not the game we're playing. We're trying to mock in terms of what the teams are going to do. So I think Sanders evaluations in terms of mocking. It's not the game we're playing, we're trying to mock in terms of what the teams are going to do. So I think Sanders

makes a ton of sense, I think plus money right now to go second, it's probably a pretty good bet considering, you know, more tea leaf reading than, than obviously Intel at this point. But I think Sanders is in play. And I think maybe there's a tell there too, with the Giants and the moves, they made a quarterback, then maybe they feel that that's the play as well and that's why they maybe been striking a little bit more proactively in the free agent market. This is also unprecedented for the the Browns so with Andrew Barry they've had two first round picks

in five years the GM, 10th overall and 26 overall Jedrick wills and Greg Newsom. I mean, just like we can basically get nothing out of like his first round draft history and there's been no real concrete information either way. Like it's been very much just like. Shafters like, Oh, I don't know. Like I think it could be this or, you know, Daniel Jeremiah's and like, I mean, Abdul Carter is a blue chip player and Travis Hunter is a blue chip player. And you're a two, you probably could pick one of those guys. So I think it's still very much up in the air. Um, as of now,

in my opinion, she Sanders makes more sense. Uh, seems like we're aligned there. All right. I mean, pick number three here. We're on the clock with the New York Giants. This is where things get interesting. Scott, I think we talked pre show about how you thought that the Russell Wilson signing does not mean anything. I guess we can go through real quick. If Shador Sanders is there, do you think that he's the pick?

And if he's not there, who would you take? I don't think that either Jamis or Russ precludes the Giants from drafting Shador Sanders. It would be an interesting dynamic within that quarterback room and how they would want to play it. But I just don't think if Shador Sanders is there, I think he's still the pick for the Giants with this and us projecting him to be drafted second.

It really comes down to Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter. There's been some whispers and some rumblings that maybe they might prefer Abdul Carter, but to me, I think Travis Hunter makes the most sense here for the way the roster is currently built. If they can get Travis Hunter on that defensive side of the ball, playing a little bit along with the wide receiver position. I think it would add, you know, some talent to a team that drastically needs it. Yeah. I think my, my only counter argument to like, I think financially it makes sense. And from a long-term vision,

it makes sense for the giants to want Scherzander's at three. The issue is that Joe Shane and Brian Dable are not a part of the long-term vision. If they draft Scherzander's at three after signing James Winston and Russell Wilson, unless he just like, I don't know, comes out and is awesome. And which case you probably just miss out allocated assets before you should have been investing in other areas. I like to me, it's just like, you're then paying your third string quarterback.

I don't know a top five, third string quarterback contract to be a healthy scratch in James Winston at that point. So I don't know, I guess it could make sense. It could happen. It just like, to me, I think they're probably better off going with Travis Hunter. Nunez, any thoughts there? It's tricky. I kind of agree. They maybe do. I don't think the two moves preclude them necessarily. Definitely not the Jamis move. Jamis is $4 million. I mean, that's that is peanuts these days in terms of even backup quarterback money. You're Russell a little bit more of an aggressive signing. We think we

all know, you know, this is a team that is playing by somewhat of a different set of rules, because there's really no long term plan here, right? We have survived in advance for this coaching staff in front office, right? So they need to really win. It gets very tricky if it plays out like this because obviously adding blue chippers makes a ton of sense. But they've invested first round picks at defensive end and corner in the last couple of years under this front office. So you're basically having to say, you know, we don't think Deontay Banks maybe needs a starter

money, right? Because they signed Paulson Adobo to a contract from the Saints. So they've invested in a free agency at the position. Then you're basically kind of waving a little bit of a white flag. You know, your guy, you know, Drew is playing slot corner for them. So you know, that we don't have to worry about what's happening there. So, you know, banks becomes kind of the next guy up. And then you have, you know, first round pick and cave on the Bado. And then you sign Brian burns. And obviously, you know, a lot of teams are rotating edge rushers, but you know, are you, you know, typically like the little places as much as anybody like 85, 90% of those snaps. So it just becomes very interesting what they do. If it were to shake out like this, you know,, you take a player you need you made some investments in the wide receiver. So like Travis Hunter probably makes the most sense. Because you can figure it out, you put them in receiver and figure out the rest of it. But I like Scott's thoughts of that Sanders is still probably on the board at three, even if Cleveland doesn't. So I would do Travis Hunter here. Cause I think obviously the ability to play multiple positions probably fits

better. The one thing I will note is that when you start looking at players and prospects that they've met with thus far, you know, it's Mason Graham, Abdul Carter and Jaylen Walker at the pro day, Shamar Stewart, Jack Sawyer, like there's not been a lot of secondary. They, they haven't made a significant move to meet with Travis Hunter from what I've tracked. So it looks like based upon their meetings, some of the interest is along that defensive line or possibly edge.

Yeah. And that makes sense. I mean, secondary doesn't necessarily make sense currently for the roster based off of previous early draft picks and then for agency. So you know, Hunter probably makes the most sense, but it's tough. It's tricky. It's a tough spot for them. Interesting. Yeah. It's I think good arguments on both sides.

I think probably for this go Hunter here. I think we're all in agreement there at three for this mock, which leads us to four noon. And if you want to get started here, I mean, I don't even know how long. I mean, run the card, run the Dan card in. Um, look, it was like, well, it was, you know, we I mean run the card run the Dan card in You know we before let's just we could talk about I would think hard we make Carter the pick here Um the trade discussion scott. Do you have any any thoughts there?

You know again, I get the argument that the patriots aren't an Abdul Carter away from from competing I will say that they've had a pretty decent free agency in terms of some of the bodies They've added on the defensive side in particular. Offensive line is still an issue. So there's thoughts of, hey, trade back, grab an offensive lineman and then add something later. But you also don't get many chances to add absolute blue chippers. And I feel like this is a class that doesn't have a ton of them. And I think pretty clearly, you know, if you were to make a discussion and an argument

for blue chippers in this class, I don't think Abdul Carter is a Like on the table one, right people might not think you Travis Hunter, you know, is that moving forward like Carter? Definitely is I just don't think you could pass up on it any thoughts there Scott Yeah, I tend to agree from the talent standpoint I think this is kind of where you start to have a little bit of a talent drop-off Is after Abdul Carter being like the last for a premium blue chipper I think this is kind of where you start to have a little bit of a talent drop off, um, is after Abdul Carter being like the last real premium blue chipper, the argument for trading back is to trade back and build around the young

quarterback and Drake may. And specifically for me, if I was running the team, it would be for an offensive lineman because there's, there's a good bit of them here. Um, my last mock drive, I had an offensive lineman here at four. So I think there is that argument. The issue I think you're going to find with this particular draft, and I haven't seen trade numbers released on any of the books yet, but I don't think there's going to be as much movement in this first round

as what there's been in past years, because I don't think there's going to be as much movement in this first round as what there's been in past years, because I don't think there's the quarterbacks that justify it. Um, the other two positions would generally be along the offensive line or edge. And those are going to be the two deepest positions here in the first round of the draft. So, um, I think they could move back, but you have to have a partner that's willing to move up and you have to identify a team that's going to come

up specifically to get Abdul dual quarter because both of the quarterbacks are probably going to be going at this point. Yeah. Uh, they, so they have obviously an early pick in the second round too. And you have kind of the backend of this first round where you have the, you know, Josh Simmons, um, Donovan Jackson, Josh cornerly, um, you know, the kid from, uh, from Minnesota too,

who's kind of making his way into some backend the mock drafts now too. So very viable that one of those guys is there in a place in a draft where like there doesn't seem to be a real clear tackle one, right? So like, uh, if you were to make the case that like there's just one dude and you have to get him, you got a bunch of these like swing guys are like, Hey, I played tackle at college, but I don't know if I'm, I don't know if that guy's gonna be a guard at the next level. Like there just doesn't seem to be a guy that's like really solidified. I know we've seen bamboo kind of emerge here is kind of the old line one. Um, but like, it doesn't feel like a spot where you can pass on a blue

chipper for a team need when you rally probably can address that at the top of the second round as well. Yeah, I agree. I think I think they go Carter here. If that's how it shakes out, if Carter Hunter there, then they have to they have to pick them. If not, I would guess Membu or I don't know, maybe another office flying and maybe we'll Campbell if they really like him. His arms grew half an inch. So today at his pro day, I don't know if you guys saw that, but he's now good. He's now has 33 inch arms, which makes him tackle eligible to something. The whole thing is just so ridiculous. Top to bottom, uh, you know, because if he had measured that at the combine, no one would care. And this wouldn't even be a narrative. And now

that, you know, that now his arms grew magically in a couple of weeks, now they are fine. So I don't know, whatever. I think it's going to be just team specific who thinks you can do it and who doesn't. So, um, five is where things, I think, start to get a little bit interesting. We don't have any of the per se blue chippers left on the board. Uh, in my latest mock, I went with Mason Graham. I think that James Gladstone, the new GM, the, you know, is type been talking about the trenches on both sides They need some help at wide receiver. They need some help at tight end

Scott any thoughts about where you're looking to go with the Jags here. I Tend to agree with Mason Graham. I think Mason Graham is a little bit more of a safe pick And what a lot of people keep comparing him to is Aiden Hutchinson, where he might not be that elite blue chip talent, but like, you know what the floor is and what you're going to get out of him. He's got a little bit of scheme versatility where, you know, he can go ahead and play the defensive tackle. If you're running three, four, he can go ahead and play the end and kick inside whenever you're on passing down. So I think he makes the most sense.

The one player that I've been hearing that the Jaguars are interested in doing a lot of homework on is Jalen Walker out of Georgia. He's kind of been the guy that a lot of the beat reporters said don't be surprised if he's the name there at five. It would be a shock for me just because I think Mason Graham is a better player, but you look at what the Jaguars have done in the past. You know, we just talked about Aiden Hudson and Trayvon Walker was the pick, uh, you know, that you're over Aiden Hutchinson for them. So, um, you know, you

have to think about what the, what the Jaguars are going to do as far as the front office and what their evaluations are. But for me, I think Graham is the pick. Agreed. Yeah. All right. I mean, I think they need, you know, we see here in the board, water, seaward, tight end. It is brutal. If you look at the depth chart there, but it does sound like trenches is the play for them. So Mason Graham, I agree would be the pick. Yep. Yeah. All right. Let's roll with Mason Graham then six Raiders. In my latest mock draft, I went a little bit off the board with them. I had them going with, uh, Jane Walker. We just talked about, uh, you know,

I think Ash and Gentie right now is the massive chalk pick. I kind of wanted to just do something a little bit different. I don't have like, you know, substantial reasons to not for them not to pick Ash and Gentie besides their roster needs other help in other places. P Carroll does love defense. Like, it's not like he's just loves to run the ball, which he does. You know, he, they just, they also don't have a running back right now, but they can address that in later rounds.

I mean, Chip Kelly's from Ohio state. There's two house, they're running backs in this draft that they could very well be interested in the middle rounds. They get a draft running back in the second round and the fourth round, uh, and probably still feel good about it. If they felt that one of these defensive players like is a blue chipper in their mind or a difference maker because they have some good players like the right, the Raiders really, they do have some good players. It's just like never really all came together,

but now with new coaching and maybe one other good player and you know, obviously they traded as well for Gino. So like, I think they're making some good moves to be honest. You know, I was the number one Raiders hater last year. I was like, my first play of the off season was Raiders under seven, half wins. I'm kind of back on board. I think they're making some good moves to be honest. I was the number one Raiders hater last year. I was like my first play the offseason was Raiders under seven half wins. I'm kind of back on board. I think they're making some good moves here. So where do you guys want to go? I mean, is Genti just like, how good do you guys feel about Genti? Because I'm totally fine going there. And I think that that's probably the most likely scenario at this point. But I

can go either way. Their roster right now at running back is Raheem Mostert, Sincere McCormick, Zameer White, Dylan Laub, and Chris Collier and Isaiah Spiller. That's what they're working with right now at running back. Good for Spiller. Spiller's still cashing checks. Good for that guy. When you look at the rest of the roster, I just come back to the one thing that makes the most sense to me is that Jonti gives them an identity there with Brock Bowers that they're not going to get with any other player. They've got Colton Miller who offensive line would kind of be the other place that I would kind of go. He's kind of solidified there at the left tackle. Last year they got the young guy from Oregon, Jackson Powers Johnson, he's there at

center. They do still need some help along the offensive line on the right side, but the way this draft is gonna fall and as early as what they're projected to be picking in there in the second round, I just think they'll be able to get help later in the draft along the offensive line. And as high as what some people are on Ashton Jantti, I just think he makes the most sense for a team that does not have an offensive identity at this point. Yeah, I think it's, it's interesting. I,

I understand why we've landed on this community group think on Ash and Gentie being the mock piece there. I, you know, pre-Gino was like, Hey, this team and nothing else doesn't need an identity. They're kind of in a dead spot in terms of quarterback in the draft. Um, a couple of things that I think are interesting in terms of the Jane Walker piece, you know, mocking him there. I get it. They actually off ball linebackers like weak

position for them and he played a little bit of swing like do they see him that way because otherwise one of the only really strong parts of the roster is defensive end. Obviously Max Crosby there. They got a little bit more out

of Tyree Wilson towards the 10 on the last year. They also resigned Malcolm Coons who was really good for them two years ago Got injured in the preseason last year and didn't play for them. So they actually really have three strong I guess maybe you know cross being and maybe league average to slightly above average with the other two guys Just feels like a spot where it'd be tricky for them to like add another body the other thing with the Genti thing that I think is interesting is We have some other running backs in this class in terms of, you know, not necessarily Ashton Genty or maybe even to Mario Hampton, but Chip Kelly is the offensive coordinator here,

who's coming off of a year as the Ohio State offensive coordinator. We've got a couple of nice Ohio State backs in this class as well. He probably has some insight there in terms of being able to add one of those guys later. So that would be maybe one of the holes to poke in genti at this point. I kind of agree what's gotten terms of having a swing guy like a Will Campbell or a member who can maybe play guard or tackle as well as kind of a way to pivot off of the genti chalk is probably the best way to do it. But they're really tough because they, you know, they need talent all over the place, right? They need they need a wide receiver one like that. McMillan should very

much be in play for them to it's definitely seems to be a polarizing prospect. I think I'm a little bit higher on him than I know Connor is and maybe then some of the group thing too. But it's a tough one to mock for sure. Every year there's like running back group think and more often than not, I've noticed that the running back group think happens to be right. We got like Najee Harris, the Steelers, we got B.J. Robinson and the Falcons. We got, you know, like say quantity, like for some reason the running backs, like it's

all just kind of like locked in and it's like the nonstop drum beat. So I'm fine with going gente here. We had a question from Brian Sullivan. The Bears or Saints want Gentie. Is a trade up to number five possible? That's getting in front of the Raiders. Personally, I don't think so. I think taking a running back already in the first round

is a little bit high and tough for most teams to swallow. I think you can make the case at like six, nine, or six is still pushing it. Nine or 10, like giving your roster build that you could pick a running back in. It could make sense. Six even is tough trading up to get that obviously is a pretty hefty price.

So I'm gonna, I would say no. So, but I currently think the genties range right now is six, nine or 10. I would be really surprised if he falls past that. I know there were some early Cowboys mocking, but I think that just one of those teams would probably select them at this point. So I think we go with them here probably at six,

just based on what we're talking here. All right. Seven with the Jets. Any interesting direction here? I think in my mock I had Memboo, you know, currently who we have been talking about currently offensive line one, like minus 280 to be the first offensive lineman off the board. Will Campbell is probably in play as the other guy there, but he's kind of fallen down. You know, the arm length continues to change

as we just talked about. Scott, any Memboo Jets takes? Tyler Warren has been talked about a decent amount of the Jets too. Where, what are you thinking? Yeah, Tyler Warren's actually kind of become the consensus pick for the Jets amongst mock drafts just here recently in the last week or two.

I think there is a lot of steam and a lot of interest towards Tyler Warren there at seven, you know, linked to the jets. My issue is, is he's not the seam stretcher that you see with a lot of the tight ends that weren't going this high. He doesn't have the same type of skillset as what you saw from a Brock Bowers last year and Bowers got drafted even, you know, a little bit later than this. So it's hard for me to go ahead and project Warren. The two names that I do keep hearing is Warren

and Membu and I just tend to think that Membu is going to be the player that makes the most sense. That team still has a lot left to be desired and for us figuring out what Justin Fields is going to be at quarterback. You look at like the running back situation they have there seems very strong. So I think that's what they're going to lean on. And if they're going to lean on that going offensive line, especially the best one available, um, makes the most sense to me. And for me, that would be bamboo. Yeah. New to any thoughts. Cause I think for me,

it was between Warren and bamboo for seven. Yeah, I think it's a good, uh, I think that's probably correct, um, directionally another spot, similar to the Jags where if you look at the depth chart at wide receiver and tight end, it is abysmal. It falls off very, very, very quickly. Um, maybe even quicker with the jets than it did with Jaguars. It's really rough. So, you know, having a difference maker at tight end, I think is it could be really impactful for that rough. So, you know, having a difference maker at tight end, I think is could be really impactful for that team Because they just have absolutely nothing behind them

You remember does feel like the first offensive lineman off the board. So that would make sense as well And you know, you got Justin Fields in there, you know, yeah, you know, Bruce Hall He's gonna run the ball 45 times a game Both of that offensive line and and you know, figure it out, you know, kind of do what the Bears did under Justin Fields a couple years ago. So I would probably lean Tyler Warren, because I can't imagine an NFL offense in 2025 trying to throw out what they currently have, knowing that like, there's just nothing, look what the Patriots had to do yesterday to get stuffed eggs in town, they had to give them, you know, 26

million guaranteed. Just not a lot of like low hanging fruit out there to pick in terms of, you know, pass catchers and difference makers on the offensive side. So I would lean Warren. I'd understand why Membu would be the play as well, I guess. Yeah, I mean, I think it could go either way, to be honest. I mean, the wide receiver depth chart for the Jets right now we're looking at, just, I mean, basically no one like anyone beyond, you know, it's Gary Wilson. And then obviously they have like Malachi Corley, Xavier Gibson. Um, like they have a guy named ASOP Winston jr. Like you could have said that was a creative player. I wouldn't have known the difference there. So yeah,

it's pretty tough pickings there. Uh, I, I went with Mambo in my draft, so I go, let's go with Warren. I think that makes more sense or just like kind of for fun for sake of parody there. And I think it also has massive implications for like the next 10 picks essentially as well. So now we're on to the Carolina Panthers. I kind of think the Carolina is going to go defense based on what we've been seeing drafted based on kind of the current mocks right here.

We've been seeing, I think it's position first draft of the Panthers right now. 46% linebacker, 29% D-line, 21% wide receiver, which I'm assuming your Tet. You know, I've very much not been on the Tet train, at least in the top 10. But, you know, I don't know. I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Any panthers takes here at eight? I think it's defense. I think if they, um, you know, I think the linebacker thing, the arenas really edge, which gets tricky when you're trying to figure out positions and stuff too. So, um, yeah, I mean,

I think also another popular one that has been there often is Jane Lynn Walker. Uh, again, could another one of these hybrid, um, transition from offball linebacker to, you know, uh, edge rusher last year a little bit. So I think that that makes a ton of sense. They really didn't have much of the, I mean, it was just a historically awful defense last year.

Only good players they had basically got hurt at some point in the year, obviously with Derrick Brown in week one, just the downfall from there. Yeah, so I mean, I think adding a difference maker and impactful edge rusher makes the most sense. I think they could go a number of different ways at, at defense, but I think edge is probably the most impactful in the short term.

Yep. Don't disagree there. Scott, any, any thoughts on the Panthers? So the interesting thought is that Jalen Walker has kind of been the consensus here for Carolina. And I've talked to some of my friends that are up in that area and a little bit connected to the team. And it's interesting because even at the pro day, Jalen Walker is the one that has gotten the most meetings. He's gone out and just had more interest from teams across the league.

But some of the information and feedback I've gotten, and it kind of matches your mock draft, is that for whatever reason, Carolina seems to be a little bit more interest from teams across the league. But some of the information and feedback I've gotten, and it kind of matches your mock draft is that for whatever reason, Carolina seems to be a little bit more interested in and Mikael Williams. And so he's kind of the other pick that I think I look at here for for Carolina, especially if they don't go with wide receiver. I think you could see Mikael Williams just being a little bit of a better fit and possibly having a little bit more upside while needing a little bit more development here coming into the NFL. So I would tend to lean between one of the two Georgia players. And right now, based upon some of the intel I have, I think it's Mikel Williams. Yeah, I haven't gone there at eight. And that was based on just some,

some rumblings, you know, that I heard. I got a lot of angry tweets about this. Um, people were like, his pass rush win rate sucks, you know, like he doesn't fit these metrics, et cetera. And I was like, look, this is not a player take. You know, this is, I tried to help. I tried to help. I didn't see those, but I did have some pro William stuff for you today. I know you were chiming in. I appreciated that. That was, that was good. Um, so yeah, I don't know where, where do we want to go here? Because I put him at eight because I

had McKell Williams coming off at like six. I don't know. I mean, would he, does he still make sense here in that case? I guess they just like straight up like him, like it better. Obviously they're different, but yeah, I mean the case for him or I guess, you know, the argument, the other side of that argument to what Connor's talking about too is a kid played hurt last season, 20 years old, was an impactful freshman at 18 in the sec. Um, and that stuff matters, right? The dude got on the field at 18 on a loaded program, a national title contender and made plays against top caliber, um, caliber offensive like Paris Johnson.

Right. It was, it went six to Arizona two years ago. Like, you know, there's some like really good stuff on Williams's tape previous to last year. So, you know, he's got a little dog in him. Obviously he played through that injury. I think some guys internally, maybe we're advising him to shut it down a little bit even too, because it was going to impact his draft stock.

Uh, cause some of the metrics aren't great. But I don't know, I kind of like that in the kid. That's more projectable in terms of size, length, all those different things as well. So I think either the Bulldogs here makes the most sense for for Carolina. All right, well, let's go with Michael Williams. And why not? That's that's kind of fun. I see. Yeah, we can, you know, mix it up a little bit here. Eight, nine, Scott, we're

talking pre show a little bit about the Saints here. Eight, nine, Scott, we were talking pre-show a little bit about the Saints here. I mentioned that Gentie, I had them come with Gentie, the first mock, obviously, Kellen Moore, Boise State legend, also Eshen Gentie, Boise State legend. I think that, I mean, Alvin Kamar is 30, Kellen Moore just led a team with Saquon Barkley to the Super Bowl, like no one is mocking Eshen Gentie

to the Saints right now, I kind of just did it because of that, but I think that there's like, he's probably third in the packing order of most likely for right now from Raiders bears and then him, but they pick before the bears. So if they pass the Raiders, like it's, you know, I think it's very much in play. Obviously he's not on the board in this mock. Will Campbell is still on the board. We have, uh, I think you mentioned another name as well, Scott, correct? Was it?

Yeah. So the other, the other person, look, We have I think you mentioned another name as well Scott, correct? Was it? Yeah, so John Walker's other the other person look just to touch on John to you real quick Ashton Gentile, there's very real interest in Gentile here down down here in New Orleans He they they've met with him as far as like a combine visit I think they have them scheduled on a top 30 visit So like he is there's buzz and there's legitimate buzz around. It's just a matter of whether he makes it here. If he gets past the Raiders, I think he's very much in play to be a surprise pick here. You know, maybe for the Saints in some circles, but the other two players that I think you look at right here

and what I've been told is there's some internal discussions within the building as far as Will Campbell. The Saints are doing their far as a Will Campbell, the saints are doing their due diligence on Will Campbell and what the discussions tend to run around is last year they took Thelis Fouaga, uh, Trevor Penning, they drafted a few years back in the first round was a bust up until they moved them to right tackle last year. And so if they were to draft Will Campbell, how does that Mary go around along their offensive

line like pan out? You know, does Fawaga go over to the right side and play right tackle and pin and kick inside to guard? Does Fawaga stay at left tackle even though he's got a little bit of athleticism limitations, but you know, it's a lot of questions. You know, does Will Campbell slip inside to guard? So that's some of the discussions I've heard that's actually going on. Right now, along the defensive line, it's something else that's a little bit interesting because they resigned Chase Young, I thought they overpaid for him a little

bit. But when you look at his production from, you know, metric as far as pressures rather than sacks, he was top six in the NFL last year. They really like Brian Brazile and I think they plan on playing a three, four and play in Brazil at defensive end, which is what he did a little bit more at Clemson. Um, so there, there's interesting as to where Jalen Walker would, you know, would fit, are they going to play him more kind of off that edge at the linebacker position? So those would be the two names that I'd look at between Jalen Walker and Will

Campbell. And I tend to lean a little bit more towards Walker right now. All right. Yeah. I mean, I think that that makes sense, given how the board kind of shook out here. Um, do you, do you know as a relative athletic score, Mickey Loomis has kind of been traditionally like, uh, an RAS guy in terms of like, I think he's one below nine in 10, 11 since 2013.

And that was an 8.6. So still pretty high overall. I don't remember it off the top of my head, but would assume I think he tested pretty well if I remember correctly. So. All right. I think corner, I think corner should be in play for them as well. Okay. Sorry. I just hit the button there on no, it's okay No, you know just you know, just think quickly. I think it's it's a spot where they have a ton of needs They Yeah, I just think it's very much in play as we kind of you know hone in here obviously not listed on the needs from PFF, but I think cornerback is

Something that could really really make a difference for this roster. Totally makes sense. All right. On the 10 Bears, I had them going Tyler Warren. He's obviously off the board. Ash Jenties, another popular pick there for the Bears also off the board. In this scenario, which I think is very, very possible, where did the Bears go? Because their offensive line was a popular answer in the offseason. They obviously traded for three interior linemen. Right tackle, they have former first rounder Darnell Wright. Left tackle, they have Braxton Jones, who's fifth round pick. His PFF grades are well above average the last three years since he's played in the league. So you're kind of in a tough situation. Do you draft? At this point,

I think Will Campbell's still on the board board who may be kind of a tweener. Does that make sense from a long term perspective? Maybe do they go defense? They still need some help there or do they go with a running back or another tight end? Any strong takes from either of you because I'm kind of at this point, I would be kind of lost to be honest. I feel a little bit strongly as far as Will Campbell to Chicago. Really? Okay. The reason being is we can talk all day about what his arm length is and whether it grew a half an inch or whatnot. But this guy came in as an 18 year old freshman in the SEC and started immediately for LSU and held up very well against, you know,

all the talent and defensive end and all the edge rushes they have within the SEC. So I think some of the arm length issues that he has get a little bit overblown. And I don't think that the talent that's there in Chicago precludes them from taking Will Campbell and making some other moves along that offensive line and kind of moving some pieces around. I think he's versatile enough to where he can play either left tackle or left guard. So I think when you look at the investment they had last year,

you know, I think they need to go ahead and protect their quarterback. I think Will Campbell makes the most sense here. And that's just where I fall based upon the talent that's available left in this draft in this scenario. where I fall based upon the talent that's available left in this draft in this scenario. The way this board shake is the way that this board shaken out. And this is a combination I think of need and player take maybe a little bit off the board, not necessarily where we were a couple of weeks ago.

And we've seen some mocks kind of in this spot too, as I think Kenneth Grant for Michigan would be a fantastic pick for the bears in this spot. You're seeing Kenneth Grant sometimes go right around here. We saw him earlier in the process and then you've seen some mocks of late with Kenneth Grant going significantly later which I think would be an absolute steal for anyone that gets that kid that late. Just my thought in terms of like any places where they actually maybe still have also really good roster. I know we were very bullish on the Bears We get some Bears flop lag this year, you know, we'll get some you know crap from people in the chat You know about us like pointing that you know to the Bears horn again

But it's a solid roster with a nice coaching staff that's you know filled some of the holes that they have can grant is a Disruptor in the interior has a pass rush presence from the interior, which is rare and can be a run stopping solidifier in the middle of that defense too. So obviously, they know they think highly of Dexter. But again, like you rotate these guys, right? They're playing 65, 75% of the snaps. You get another impactful. What I think is the top 10 talent in this class at that spot, I think would be a really good pick for the Bears.

Yeah, I mean, I can't disagree with you looking at the mock drafts. Walter football is the highest on him right now at 10th to the Bears. And that came out today. We have Charlie also having 11 cow crabs at 11 as well. Other than that, he's pretty much routinely mocked in like the 20s. I'm not even the first round at all. I haven't been the first round, I believe. Yeah, I had met like 28, like back into the first round.

But- Not in the first round, it's egregious. I just want to put it, it's just an egregious take whoever's leaving him on the first round. This is a really good football player, really good. Well, hopefully it's not Scott. I don't think I can't see Scott's mock anymore on the, on BR's sheet, but no, it's, yeah. I don't think I can't see Scott's mock anymore on the on BR sheet, but

No, it's I yeah, it's it's a football take. I think it makes sense. Where do we go attend? Now? That's the question. I Don't know. I think I want to throw Mario Hampton's name out there to potentially Colston Loveland out there as well I think those are all probably options. I Don't know given currently I would probably lean Will Campbell, I guess, like you said, I made the case against offensive line, but now like long-term vision, I mean, the Eagles has drafted offensive lineman for like 10 years, just to make sure that their offensive line

was good forever in case someone got injured. Because if one of the olds that the Bears just signed gets injured, probably a tough situation, or maybe he's better than Braxton Jones. I don't know, like, and you need an offensive line. I mean, that's like, that was the focal point of Ben Johnson. Like what he did in, in, with Detroit, like Jared golf under pressure still sucks.

Like he still was trash. Um, and so I don't know, I would go Campbell, although I don't love it, to be honest. And the one thing I will say is at least when it comes to Campbell, they did meet with him at the combine and they have had a top 30 visit with them. Um, I don't have from everything I track any meetings with, with, uh, grant, so it's, uh, it's an interesting one.

I like to take, because I think it's a good fit. When you start looking at, uh, you know, what they have there along that defensive line. Um, you know, I don't think Grady Jarrett, you know, he's getting up in aid. So it's definitely an interesting take. And I think there is, there is a fit there. But like I said, I would tend to to lean a little bit more towards Campbell and from a talent evaluation where he's listed more on, you know, a lot of big boards,

I think Campbell's kind of the fit here in this range. Yeah, it makes sense. The one thing that people need to remember too with like a defensive lineman compared to like an offensive lineman, like your offensive lineman you're not necessarily rotating those guys in unless they get hurt. They signed a Grady Jarrett. A Grady Jarrett is playing 35, maybe 45% of the snaps, right? Like it's not a, um, we can't draft, uh, this position because we just signed this guy for agency. He's a little bit older.

These guys rotate a ton anyway, right? He's going to be a first and second down clear run down situation type of player. Kenneth Crank could do all of it, which is something that, you know, I think is impactful moving forward. So, you know, be careful if you're mocking or betting this stuff and, you know, looking at assigning like, like that, like Grady Jarrett and recruiting the Bears from doing anything similar to the defensive line, just not the case. For sure. Yeah, they definitely could opt to go there. Poles has not been one to shy away from going off the board if they like someone a little bit further on the board too. So

openly admitting that's a little football takey for sure. I just think is a kid that actually was kind of going around the top 10 early in the draft process. And I'm really surprised to see him slipping this far because I just I not a huge tape bro, but I'll watch some of it watch a lot of Michigan football casually. And then this guy tested Rudy outstandingly as well. So I'm surprised that he's teams aren't necessarily clamoring to add him. No doubt. All right. So I think for this one, we'll go with Will Campbell. Looking on to the Niners pick here in terms of who they're drafting

right now. Most popular pick is Will Campbell for the Niners. After that, we're looking at Will Johnson, Jaday Baron, as well as Jaylen Walker. So those are the most popular, most popular picks given our current mock draft. We're looking at probably one of the corners. Nune, I think you had, uh, uh, Baron in there. I think I had Will Johnson in my first one. I had any takes. There's more and some more Baron love lately, you know? Yeah.

I think we just, we've seen Baron play more man. So there are fewer questions about his ability to take on that role at the next level, if that's what's required of him. Uh, not that we'll Johnson can't just was asked to mostly sit in the zone. It was pretty effective, uh, more so in 23 than 24. So, you know, it's not to say that the kid can't do it, but that would be my, my baron take. I think he's a pretty, his ball skills are also pretty awesome.

I mean, they both are. I think they're both really, really strong talents of the position. So Splint and Harris, I think, but that's a, in terms of especially how the ball, the board has fallen. I think solidifying that's, you know, with a judarius war gone, they do, uh, to do something in the position. For sure. Scott, any, any thoughts between the two or something else?

I guess if something else comes to mind. Yeah. And most of my mock dress, it comes down to either offensive line or cornerback. I think when you look at the secondary cornerback makes a lot of sense. Um, the, the issue is, is really trying to figure out who's going to be the better fit. Um, I've looked at some things online through some of the beat reporters and some other San Francisco sites. And you have a strong semblance that think that Will Johnson's the better fit. And you have some guys that are equally tooting a horn loudly for Baron.

So I think either one makes sense. I don't have an issue with going Baron. I don't have an issue with going Will Johnson. It's't have an issue with going well, Johnson, it's just, you know, kind of going to be a player take here there. And I think what a new and says about the, about barren playing a little bit more man makes a lot of sense. He's kind of been rising too. I think we were talking about it. Like first corner is a market available.

Initially I was like a Will Johnson lean like the day after I said that there's been like nonstop barren hype. It seems like, so, uh, we'll go with barren here. I think that makes a ton like nonstop Baron hype it seems like. So we'll go with Baron here. I think that makes a ton of sense. Cowboys pick at 12 here. My most recent mock, I mocked them Matthew Golden. They needed a guy that can kind of stretch the field a little bit, open it up for CD Lam. They need a lot.

They need help in a lot of different places. So this pick to me could be anything. Honestly, like this is, you tell me something and it would make sense outside of like, probably, I mean, I don't know, you can make a case for quarterback if you really, really wanted to. I mean, Jerry does some crazy stuff. So, um, yeah, I know what, uh, where, where do you want to go with this? And where were any thoughts here? Yeah, I think they could go a bunch of different places. I don't hate the golden selection because it's a I mean, right? We're looking at Turpin and and Jaylen Tolbert taking meaningful snaps and all of a sudden you're getting to the Jonathan Mingo's and Paris Campbell's of the world pretty quickly in the depth chart.

So that gets a little tricky. Karen Steel was pretty bad last year to a right tackle. You know, them adding an offensive lineman wouldn't surprise me either. You know, if one of the edge rushers fell, you could see that they did bring back Tante Fowler Jr. in free agency. They brought in Payton Turner from the Saints as well. It was not lived up to the hype too much yet. So I could see them doing something there just as a team that I think could be kind of all over the place.

One of the sneaky ones here is Jolly Campbell from Alabama because he is kind of a tweener. You could do a couple different things with him. They have linebacker, actual linebacker needs as well. They traded for Kenneth Murray, who is a absolute, I mean, look, he's an NFL linebacker, former first round pick. He's a bum. He's a liability in coverage. I mean, that's Chargers Titans fan, like they're all excited that he left. And now they need to use him because they had some, you know, injuries that overshown got hurt last year. You know, so they have some definite questions, you know, they didn't, they're not bringing

back or Kendrick's, it looks like so, like, it's my guy, Jack Sanborn and Kenneth Murray uh there as well so a guy like Campbell who is both you know has kind of that like new edge rusher slash off-ball linebacker fit like be a really good pick for them so I think he's kind of where he could start to go off the board uh so it'd be Campbell or um or Golden for me at that uh the Cowboys. All right yeah Golden now, 42% of mock drafts lately on VR sheet, which is crazy because I felt like it was still kind of underrated from what I was seeing. But I don't know, Scott, I mean, are you in on

the Golden train here, too? I don't I don't have anything definitive, to be honest. I just like I think he's going to be probably wide receiver one. And this makes some sense. Like that's all I have going for this. I really enjoy every year listening to Steve Smith breakdown the wide receivers. You know, he was back on Cooper Cup telling everybody Cooper Cup was the top in that draft. And I recently watched his, his breakdowns is this wide receiver class and he has golden as the wide receiver one in the class. And he went as far as predicting that he thinks

that golden will be the first one off the board over over Tet. So I think that is interesting when you start to look at things. It's CD lamb, Jalen Tolbert and Kavante Terpen. I don't think that puts a lot of fear, you know, after after CD lamb Tolbert played a little bit better last year. Um, my most recent mock draft I had Golden. Um, I think they did a solid job of solidifying the running back position. So it's, it's kind of crazy to me that some people are still

mocking them ashton genti, but, um, I think that offensive line is not as solid as what a lot of people say with, uh, Terrence Steele. But, um, you look, they could go a number of places. I ended up landing on Golden. I think Noonan makes a great point as far as what you're looking at there on defense. I've even seen some cornerback here, whether it be Baron or the cornerback from Michigan. So they could go anywhere.

I think when it comes down to it, I think maybe Jerry wants to make the biggest splash. So I just land on Golden. I think that's where we're going to go. Then we'll keep rolling with Golden 13 Miami. I think very most popularly mocked offensive lineman. For my understanding, Will Campbell 21% some Baron love there.

Kelvin Banks, Nick, Evan Worry, Malak Evan, worry Malachi, Starks, all the most popular mocked players right now to Miami. I think that I had a safety going to them initially, and so that's you know where I where I was like debating between them. I had Will Campbell in my mock draft. Obviously he's not on the board. Malachi starts got a ton of love.

So is Nick, Evan, worry lately. think he could go a variety of ways. Nunez, any first takes there amongst who's left on the board? Well, they lost both starting safeties from last year with Poyer and Holland, both departing. They brought in two guys in free agency, but for low level deals. I'm a fan of Afete Melfanu from Detroit. I think he should be a starting safety in the league. So he could be one of them. They also brought in Ashton Davis from the Jets as well. But a guy like Starks or Emma Morrie, depending on what they want to do and how they see those two players, they think they're very different players,

not a team that has historically run a ton of single high. But offensive line, interior offensive line would make a lot of sense as well. If we have one of these guys that's fallen a little bit here too, I'm not absolutely in love with some of the guys they have along the offensive line. You just see Armstead struggles to stay healthy. Interior offensive line with Brewer and Daniels is not great either. So I think it should be safe safety or offensive line. This episode is a disaster. How do we not have Armand Membou go off the board already? I was curious about Campbell over Membou. He's a big unaburied. It's a little bit of a disaster. He's going right here. Right. Like this. Yeah. I thought Campbell was already, I mean,

I thought Membou would already come off the board. We're moving on here because I, you know, I'm almost embarrassed to see that I'm looking through this. I'm like, how is he, there's no, he's still on the board. Um, yeah, I mean, yeah, we probably messed that up a little bit. I would say maybe we should go before Campbell. What'd he go at, at the bears? I don't know, to be honest. Uh, I don't know. I mean the way the problem box structurally, you could just swap those picks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll say that that makes sense. Uh, pick 14, Tyler Warren, the most popular mock player here, not on the board.

Scott, where do we go? Where do the Colts go? Tyler Warren's on here. Is it another tight end? Is it a defensive player? Is it an offensive lineman? What are they looking at? I mean, this is a roster that I'm not too happy with.

I think Tyler Warren is the player that makes the most sense here, here to them. But when you really start looking at it, you know, I think their offensive line is okay. Their secondary is the place where I kind of have concerns when you're looking at Cameron Byron and buying them and Nick Cross kind of being their starting safeties. So I think Malachi Starks is a player that's kind of all over the board as far as where people rank him. I think he's a player that I would kind of lean towards here. I don't think it makes sense to really get a guard. I think both of the offensive line that we just talked about would make sense if you wanted to slide one in here. But like for me, I'm kind of leaning towards either Starks or even G. Hyde Campbell.

I like the safeties. Um, I think the cross was, um, solid for them last year or more in sort of a box safety role, um, which actually really fits well with what cam Byron does. Just as a lot of, you know, deep safety, Minnesota safety usages was so unique. Uh, they gave him the bag. So I feel like they, you know, at least feel pretty good about the deep safety. So if they were to go safety, I think it would be a memory over Starks just in terms of scheme fit and what they like to do if they were wanting him to replace crossed that would make more sense to me. But I think that they kind of liken it cross.

So I think Colson Loveland makes some sense here too that tight end room is not very good I still think that they could use more edge rushers, even though they added layout to lots who last year I think that could be an area of need and then Campbell as well in terms of what they're looking at Linebacker wise, you know, they are losing EJ speed and free agency is the IR. Zaire Franklin is there too That's why Campbell works so well because he is that kind of new mold of that, you know, I Get not fair to say like a Mike of Parsons But like Michael Parsons just an elite edge rusher, but you know, it's played that hybrid role for a little bit

We saw that more but like a Frankie Louvo last year who plays a little bit more of that hybrid role to a little bit With what like the Buccaneers like to do with their linebackers to their offball linebackers But they're gonna blitz those guys a lot too. And Campbell's really good at that. So Campbell or Colston Loveland, I think are the ways to go with this board. All right. Well, I'm gonna break the tie. I'm gonna go with Loveland because I think that that just makes more sense. Scott, unless you got you got a strong take. I mean, I'm open to you know, if you got a if you got a strong take. I mean, I'm, I'm open to, you know, if you got a, if you got a strong, super strong take.

Just looking at the roster and I just think Campbell makes a little bit more sense. Um, you know, I, I understand the love for, for Loveland. I'm good with Campbell, but you've got a Royal there in the second round that teams are still going to be able to get. And I don't think, I think the gap at, at, at linebacker where, where Campbell is, is there's a huge talent drop off as far as what Campbell does compared to some of these other linebackers here. So I'm just sitting here looking through the roster and talking myself into Campbell more and more and more. So,

all right, let's roll the roll with Campbell then it's TV one. So we'll go Campbell 1415. We have the Falcons. I think edge is popularly mocked to them as well as I think corner is interesting if they wanted to go that direction. I don't know. I mean Falcons obviously surprised everyone with Michael Pennings pick like last year. I you know any information we get is obviously just needs to be taken with a great of salt from them. So I think they could really go again another team that could probably go any direction. I think I had a Will Johnson going to them or Baron going to them.

I Baron going to them. So corner, but they need more defensive help regardless. I think overall noon and any, any Falcon stakes here. It's got to be defense. I'm with you in the cornerback. I think that works too. And then edge rusher. I mean like this team has been just historically bad for a decade at edge, just the inability to address it. And again,

they threw some darts in like day two last year. None of that really panned out too, too much. Signing Morgan Fox and free agency isn't going to move the needle in my opinion. So our Leonard Floyd, like, you know, it's, it's bodies to mix in, but like, you know, you need one of those guys from last year, like a Brailen Trice or whatever, like to step up. So I don't know. I still think if you wanted to take a swing at edge, that would make a ton of sense. But like, you know, they obviously like AJ Terrell at corner. They Clark Phillips is a nice nickel. So Mike Hughes is your second

outside perimeter corner. You know, having one of these guys fall there too, I think, you know, makes a ton of sense for them to snatch one of those guys up. So definitely defense at your corner. Scott. Yeah, I tend to lean a little bit more towards a cornerback going well, Johnson here. Specifically, I think there's a lot of question marks at the edge when you get here. Mike Green's got like some issues. You've got Shemar Stewart who tested well, but he's just a straight line athlete without the production there. You know, James Pierce is kind of another one. So they've met with all three of those players as far as what I track.

But Will Johnson's a player they've also met with and had a top 30 visit. I think from a talent standpoint, I think Will Johnson makes a lot of sense right here. Yeah, I tend to think so as well. I had corner going there. So I think we're going to roll with roll with that. Now I got to figure out how to get back to the main screen here. Okay. Will Johnson, 15, the Falcons 16 to the Cardinals. I believe that I had Shamar Stewart going there. Johnson, 15 the Falcons, 16 to the Cardinals.

I believe that I had Shamar Stewart going there. Stewart, I think can go all over. I've heard, you know, mixed things, literally his highest, I think his eighth overall, he's gone all the way to like 27th, so 31st, I think is the lowest. So really all over the board here. Scott, any, any takes here on the Cardinals here? Yeah, this is another team that that I struggle with

Going ahead and projecting I think they need some offensive line help. I think they need help along the defensive line as well But I mean really when you start looking at things I Would have drafted them a cornerback But you know at this point in time. It's a little bit too early, so I think you can start kind of start pivoting They did sign Josh wet Justin Jones kind of other person they have slotted for defensive in but they drafted Darius Robinson rather highly high last year, so I mean, it's it's just just another situation where they could go all over. I don't have a particularly good feel. So if Nunes got a little bit of input on the Cardinals, you know,

when you roll with him, it wouldn't shock me to see them draft a wide receiver though. That's just one place I'm kind of looking at leaning on the outside. When you look at what Marvin Harrison did, I mean, after that, it's Michael Wilson, Greg Dortch. Now, Trey McRod is kind of the de facto number one, in my opinion there. But I think this is another team that there's a lot that they need to go ahead and start being a little bit more productive. Yeah, we got a mail- ballot here from Jeff Josh Simmons to the cards. I don't know. I mean, Josh Simmons is basically like a former potential first or Alex top five pick and then got injured and now he's just, I don't know, we have no idea where he's going to go. So I don't hate it. I hate that it's from

Jeff because then I have to kind of agree with it, which is definitely not something I want to do very often. But I think offensive line is in play for them. The the sweat siding, I think helps them a little bit, too. I think they would love to have Jahad Campbell fall to them. I think that this is kind of like would be like Campbell's absolute like floor situation. I just can't envision them based off of their team passing on him. We obviously already had him going off to the to the Colts, but yeah, I think, you know, another edge rusher wouldn't make sense as well. But yeah, I mean, I'm also attempting to know the guy. So him still, uh,

you're being here, uh, is a little bit surprising to me too. Cause I, I agree. I mean, is, is he an upgrade from what they currently have? I mean, yeah, I mean, I, I, I'm sure there's some real strong Michael Wilson stands out there, but I feel like McMillan is definitely better than all of a sudden you have Harrison McMillan and McBride is a pretty nice little combination for what you want to see with, with Kyler moving forward. So, um, just the team that is surprisingly getting better, um, in terms of just like the depth chart. So,

but not a spot where like they have any clear spots that they have to address more so than anything else. Kyle, there's just going to be throwing jump balls the entire game. Cause no one's going to get an open. It's just going to be, you know, he needs to fall either sides and then, you know, trading bride running a curl route over the middle and then, you know, going from there and just layups and threes, I guess, right? Isn't that the name of the game now? Anyway, so, um, you know, it's not the worst thing. I mean, I'd be fine with it. Uh, you know, going from there, just layups and threes, I guess, right? Isn't that the name of the game now? Anyways, so, um, you know,

it's not the worst thing. I mean, I'd be fine with it. Uh, you know, I get Scott, you mentioned wide receiver, Tats probably know this range. I moved up my last mock to like 22, something like that. I figured I'll probably have him like that late teens, early twenties, um, when it comes down to it. But, uh, and that's seems to be relatively like his normal range at this point. Um, like anywhere from like eight to 25 essentially, but Scott, any breaker deal breakers here at Macmillan or I don't have a deal breaker.

I mean, the biggest issue that I look at, I look at cornerback where you got Sean Murphy, Bunning and Starling Thomas are the two starters there. And I think that's the biggest, the biggest need that they have, but I did positionalized in the way the draft has fallen. It's just not the right range for the cornerbacks to come off the board Yeah, it's not gonna happen. So I think we're probably looking at Ted here. Let's let's roll with that I haven't seen that so far. So that's that's fun Bangles on the clock at pick 17 here

We're looking at most popular mocked Michael Williams here. We're looking at most popular mocked Michael Williams, Shamar Stewart and Mike Green, both at 17%. I think Stewart could make some sense here. Noonan, any thoughts on the Bengals? Yeah, I still think even though we're in a spot where they thankfully aren't trading Trey Hendrickson, I still think that they need edge help. I know we still have, you know, Miles Murphy who they drafted a couple of years ago early. It's not really panned out too much. Um, can samples there as well. Interior that defensive line is also a problem. So I will keep up for Kenneth Grant again. Um, I know again, you put him next to his teammate from last year, Chris Jennings.

So after this guy just get it over with so we can stop mentioning him or what Chris Jenkins, they, they picked last year, the second round again, like it's a team that you like, could run all over them and they had a one trick pony pass rush It was just Fred Hendrickson and nothing else Sam Hubbard struggled and is now out of the game So they need some help along the defensive line. So I think it should be You either one of these edge rushers like a Pierce or as a rookie green Whatever you want to do there or or Kenneth Grant in the interior Yeah, I'm fine with any of those. I think they have to go defense

I mean, this is the whole house to build out offense still they tried but it's not there yet Scott any any takes Yeah, I'm on the defensive side of all two when you look at their visits They've met with almost all the top edge rushers in this draft they've also met with both of the safeties, a top 30 visit most recently with a man, a worry from South Carolina. But I think edge makes the most sense if they're going to go ahead and, and hang on to Trey Henderson, he's still getting up in age. If they decide to trade on, then you've got versatile versatility.

So I would tend to lean a little bit more towards Pierce with some of the off-field stuff coming in on my green. Pierce has a little bit of off-field stuff as well, but it seems like Green's dropping a little bit more and you got Ezuruka, can't even pronounce his name, but he's kind of rising a little bit as well. But I think any of these guys that you're looking at here at the defensive end position make a lot of sense. I tend to edge some of these guys over Shamar Stewart.

Most of what I've been reading some of the stuff that's been reported like Tony Pauline's a guy that's pretty plugged in and he's reported the guys that he's talked to around the league tend to think that Shamar Stewart is a straight line athlete. You have some teams that are definitely don't have him on their board in the first round. So I would tend to go with Pierce in his SEC production here. I love Pierce. I'm surprised he's fallen, but obviously there's off the field stuff there too. So I think a home run pick for the Mangles. All right, let's roll with Pierce here.

Now we've got the Seahawks on the board. Offensive line seems to be a pretty popular direction for them. Also maybe Nickham and Worry is getting a little bit. Tyler Booker, Greg Zabel, all options. New 90 interest here for any of those guys. Yeah. I guess I would be a little surprised if the Bengals would just mention that if they would take a state one of the safeties Because I think they're I don't know. I like Jordan battle

I think he's you know, 85% of Nick and Maury just kind of a downhill dog They like Gino stone in the back, but you could sell me on Seattle taking a safety as a pivot to the offensive line They got a lot of production out of Kobe Bryant last year when Rashad Jenkins went down, Jenkins is gone. Julian Love can kind of do it all, but they use them a lot in the back end is more of a free safety. So you can go either way with Starks or Emma Worre there. That would make sense. But obviously the interior of the offensive line would make a ton of sense too, if there's an offensive lineman that we think needs to be coming off the board. Yeah, I guess Calvin Banks. Yeah, Calvin Banks could be interesting.

He's a swing guy, you know. Right. Yeah, I think Booker too. I guess Booker would make sense. Yeah, there's a lot of Booker hype lately too. Like his stock continues to be going all over the place. So all right, I think we roll with banks here and just keep it moving 19 the bucks You know, we're looking at the most popular mocked players Jihad Campbell who I believe we already had coming off the board here Correct. Or yeah, we had him at 14. So I think I had him there my mock You're mentioning that you'd be really surprised the Colts didn't select him So we'll probably make that adjustment there beyond that Nick Emmanwory and Donovan Donovan E from

Boston College and he I think we're looking at basically probably Stark some worry or Donovan II Scott and he takes between the three Yeah, they've actually met with all those players. So as far as like what I look at with a lot of meetings, Tampa Bay is a team that tends to meet with a lot of players, they've kind of not met the what their normal quota would be this year. So it's kind of interesting. I think it's going to be kind of their secondary just sucked last year. So, you know, looking at it, at it being one, like a secondary piece would,

would make a lot of sense to me. Um, I think, you know, Jordan Whitehead and Antoine Winfield are there. And as far as the safeties, um, it's rough, it's rough because I really liked the fit of Jihad Campbell there. And with him off the board, I would maybe have to go ahead and lean a little bit more towards one of these edge players. Logan Hall hadn't really panned out. Kalaja Kansi did some nice things last year, but I think you need somebody that's got a little bit more of a berth. So, you know, I think with the way things are going, I think Donovan would, the Donovan as a Ruka, I'm gonna get this right

sooner or later, but I would tend to go ahead and lean towards him. Plus one on there. They need an edge rusher. They need to pass rush. Yeah, yeah, the IB and nothing. Um, they had a lot of injuries in the back half. I don't hate that collective unit. Um, white had missed a lot of injuries in the back half. I don't hate that collective unit. White had missed a lot of time. Winfield missed a lot of time. You could add talent there if one of the two main guys slipped, but I don't think you need to add a safety to the room and yeah, corner can go late. So as Ruke. All right. So a little bit of an upside here. We'll go Donovan as Ruke over Shamar Stewart.

Now we're, I mean, we're already over an hour here. So I think last 1012 picks. We can probably just go rapid-fire Not as much analysis we're just gonna get one person to pick no pushback Those are the rules why because I just made them up. We're gonna start with noonan you get the Broncos at pick 20 Go for it The Broncos have a good roster and we like we talk about this. They're good I wouldn't have time to talk about it now. We'll talk about it soon Breaking the rapid-fire rules is just we start the game Give me Hanson. I'm already Hanson. Let's uh, let's get them some some running back love Scott rolled his eyes He's not happy with it. You got the easy pick

All right, I'm gonna take this this one because again, because I made the rules. I'm going to go with Jackson Dart for the Pittsburgh Steelers here at pick number 21. You know, they need they need more help at quarterback. I still think they signed Aaron Rodgers, but this would be a great another great pick for them to add just for long term vision. Scott 22 Chargers on the clock. A lot of good players left. A lot of good players., a lot of good players.

Yeah, there's a lot of things that I like for the chargers. I think you can kind of go with one of two players here and I'm gonna go ahead and take a swing at a wide receiver and I'm gonna go a Mecca Iqbuka and the other player I had in mind was Colston Loveland. I think he would make a lot of sense here and kind of has that Michigan connection. But I think they need to add something to this wide receiver core.

Pass lad, McConkey. I don't think Mike Williams or Quinton Johnston are or really going to have long-term futures there. And so if you were building around it, I'm going to Ibuco. Yep, don't hate it. I think Loveland could make a lot of sense there. I had Tet in there would be which would be awesome with Vlad and conkey. I think that'd be a great combo broke my my rule as well noon and you're up next I'm gonna break it to also a great landing spot for Michigan grad Kenneth Walker. I'm sorry, yeah, Kenneth Grant

You got it in there. No Green Bay This is you know shorts and t-shirt Olympics. They love razz guys No, Green Bay. This is, you know, shorts and t-shirt Olympics. They love Raz guys. It's just kind of the one thing they need. So we'll take a guy with almost no production and insane Raz and Shamir Stewart for the Packers. They feel like they can coach them up. Alright, Shamir, Shamar Stewart. Got to scroll down. Yeah, all tools, no production. Pretty impressively bad in that sense. But, you know, that gets the job done in the draft here. Vikings on the clock. For me, it's going to be between Starks and I'm in worry.

I'm going to go with Starks since I think he's kind of been just very well liked player. I mean, I think it's, it's probably a good fit there. Onto the Texans, pick number 25. Scott, what are you thinking? They were unhappy with offensive line last year. Got their offensive coordinator kind of fired. And I think Josh Simmons is probably the best talent on the board right now,

even though they did sign Cam Robinson. I still think you can kind of like bump Cam Robinson inside to guard if you needed to. But I think they go ahead and just take the best player of what they need. And that's Josh Simmons. Kelvin Banks still on the board, isn't he? No, no, we took him for. So we're going to have another Memboo situation.

Yeah, we took him at pick 18. Oh, Seattle. Okay, good. Yep. All right. So we're going to go Simmons here for Scott. That takes us to pick number 26 with the Rams for Noonan. Rams also sneakily kind of a decent roster better than I think some think they do need

cornerback. And even though this is kind of a tough spot cornerback wise, we have seen a couple names like Trey Amos from Ole Miss has moved up. We've seen him mock there too. Also you know, Maxwell Huron and the Thomas kid from Florida State. So, um, I will go with Amos that I know that was a name that, uh, Jeremiah had there. And we've seen him mocked there a little bit more frequently. Yep. That makes plenty of sense. He seems like a guy who could sneak into the first round that like not that many people have him there. Uh, all right. I'm on the clock now pick number 27 with the Ravens. I think that a guy like maybe Tyler Booker could make a lot of sense. He's being been mocked here a lot

I think you already went that didn't he already go. I know it's your opposite. That's right I hate how this I have to keep scrolling everywhere. Okay. Yeah, I'll go with Tyler Booker here for the ratings It's just You know tough situation here. I think that he's been mocked there what 20 something percent of times 21% It's the most popular player to the Ravens right now And you know continue to add to the trenches they mentioned it Harbaugh mentioned in his presser as well So pick number 28 now to Scott the lines on the clock Yeah, I'm gonna go a little bit off the beaten path

I'm a player that Detroit has been showing a lot of interest in and who did great at the senior bowl moved up and I'm gonna go with the guard from North Dakota State, Graze Able. You look at like Zitler or whatever, leaving and I just think that team is gonna wanna go ahead and really plug into that offensive line which that running back committee has kind of been there like their identity. And I think they go ahead and kind of plug the offensive line and go with the underrated guy and, and Graze Abel. Nice. Yeah. I like that for sure. That's, that's a good one. Newton.

I have a feeling where you're going to go with this pick. Who are you picking here? I'm not, he should have gone multiple times ahead of time, but I don't love him here to the commanders necessarily based on the roster, but I'm going to go, I'm going to go with, uh, we still have Emma worry on the board. Uh, yeah, some guys get lost here. Yeah. That's a, that's a great fit for them. Uh, for them.

Yep. That makes a ton of sense. I am going to pick Kenneth Grant for the bills. Um, I think that that makes a ton of sense. What a steal for the bills. Yeah. I mean, absolute steal telling you. We should get a wagon here and I don't feel bad about it to my wagon.

I just want to be very clear. Like this is a really, it's a home run pick for Buffalo. We should have donated the Kenneth Grant and I'll fund just so that we can be like day one donor because this is we're all in on Kenneth Grant, which I love. I don't know how we can bet on with the next level. Cause I mean, he plays defensive line, but uh, I don't know. SAC props. I don't know how we can bet on with the next level because I mean, he plays defensive line, but, uh, I don't know, sack props. I don't know if that's either, um, all right. So I went with Kenneth, Kenneth Grant.

Uh, I think that that puts Scott up again and then it'll be noon and finish us off. Yeah. Um, a player that's been getting a lot of visits, a lot of teams are interested to, um, you start looking at some of the struggles that Kansas City had on offensive line, even though they drafted offensive linemen last year. But I'm going to go with Josh Connerly out of Oregon. A lot of teams are bringing him in for top 30 visits. He's a player that I think could go ahead and slide in onto that offensive line and give some protection to the Kansas City Chiefs situation. Yeah. He's kind of another fringe first rounder. Like this last 15, 20 picks are basically all fringe first rounders, the highest ranked players still remaining that is, you know,

in the first round that has not been selected. I think he is Mike Green. You know, obviously PFF has that there. After that, it is probably Derek Harmon, Walter Nolan, and Maxwell Harrison are the ones remaining. But Noonan, this is your pick here. You can do whatever you like with it. So last pick of the first round. Team just ends up getting, you know, talented disruptors on the defensive line, continuously another one. We'll give them Mike Green here out of Marshall. Just restocking the cover. They always seem to do. No, that's yeah, that seems to be how it goes. Full mock here. We will tweet this out as

well. But That should be fun. Still not. People are always so nice. Yeah, I know. These are these are great. It, it's always, you know, love this PFF mock draft simulator, but here's the full, full mock just to recap it here. Uh, as quickly as possible. We got cam ward one shooter, Sanders to Travis Hunter three, Abdul Carter for Mason Graham five Ash and Gentie six Tyler Warren seven, Michael Williams, eight, Jalen Walker, nine

will Campbell 10 Baron 11 Matthew golden 12 Armand Membu 13, Will Campbell, 10, Baron, 11, Matthew Golden, 12, Armand Membu, 13, which again, we probably would have swapped Campbell and Membu considering where we're at. For sure. Yeah. And then Todd Campbell, 14, Will Johnson, 15, Tet Macmillan, 16, 17, James Pierce, 17, Kelvin Banks, 18, Donovan E E 19, Omar and Hampton, 20 Jackson Dar 21, Mecca, Bucca, 22, Shamar Stewart, 23, Malachi, starts 24, Josh Simmons, 25,

Trey Amos, 26, Tyler Booker, 27, Greg Zabel, 28, Nick and Minwari, 29, Kenneth Grant, 30 and Josh Connerly 31, Mike Green, rounding it up 32 to the Eagles. So great exercise, rip through 20 picks in an hour and then the final 12 in the last 15 minutes. I think that went pretty well though. Um, interesting exercise. I think we ended up in a lot of different spots that I didn't expect to be, but, uh, I think it went well. We got obviously Jeff in the chat calling, calling us fraudulent, which is, you know, on brand for Jeff

So the kid you're talking about the Siobhan reveal kid like we're talking about an ACL injury It's a big kid. He's like six to Do and change these is a nice big corner another kid that just played zone in college So he's coming off of a you know reconstructed knee surgery with no man skills. Not that we've seen. So having him, just have seen him consistently in first round. So definitely a nice spot for a guy that I know was projected higher, but really tough to kind of take a guy hoping to get day one starter reps out of these guys. And this guy is coming off

of an ACL injury and maybe has some questions in terms of how he projects at the next level. So big corner though, could be an interesting day to prospect for sure. Yeah. Love Jeff. And he was also, you know, talking about some kicker kicker guys earlier. No, I know I'm going to make it in the first round, Jeff. So probably not going to touch on that. Scott, any closing words here before we sign off? No, I'm still checking out some of the visits. You've got some

pro days are still like closing up and whatnot. So I think now is the time where we can really start to dig in and start looking at some of the whispers that's coming from beat reporters and stuff like that. We still got some quarterback situations that need to shake out. But I think now is when you start to get a little bit of clarity, I think doing exercise like this kind of gives you a little bit of a better feel. Look, the one pick that I like the most out of our first round, if I could pick,

is probably that Shemar Stewart to Green Bay fit. I think that's the place in a team that really matches their draft history and what they look for in a player type. So, I mean, that's really kind of some of the things I'm looking at. And then we'll have to figure out where we're going to put Kenneth Grant. Nice. Yeah, I mean, I was going to say that's my favorite pick in the first round, Kenneth Grant, 30th, noon. And I don't know about you, but.

Home run, I mean, for the Bills, absolutely. Congratulations on the AFC. See what you can do when you get to the big dance finally. But yeah, I mean, the absolute home run for for the bills getting kind of grant at 30. Amazing, amazing. Awesome. Um, alright, well, next week, right? You know, next week, we'll do the same thing. Maybe touch on some other mock drafts that came out. I just released my 2.0.

Newton and Scott's 2.0 I'm sure is coming out in the next couple of weeks as well. But we'll be back probably with some bets soon. Uh, probably we'll release some bets, more markets coming out. I was pretty close to firing on one or two that I've personally fired on but, uh, you know, I want people to get down more than like 10 bucks but I don't know, maybe I'm just gonna release them anyways and piss off all the, the draft grinders who are not about it. So, um, all right, awesome.

Well for Ryan and for Scott, I'm Connor. Thank you all for joining despite my tech issues, Ryan's tech issues and Scott, you had no problems at all. So keep crushing it. So talk to you guys later. Bye.