Move The Line - Move The Line - Week 6 Betting Recap & Week 7 Early Predictions!

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

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Hello and welcome to Move a line presented by Sharpstack, Brian Ninn. Back here for Week 6, Takeaways, Week 7. Look ahead. Join, as always, by Conradale. What's going on, my friend? Yeah, not much. We got a live event tonight, hopefully see some of you guys there. I think there are some people in the chat on Friday that said that they were coming. So that would be cool.

Both of us will be there, a bunch of other people. So if you're in the Chicagoland area, not too late to come out, Frontier, at 6 p.m., I think what's going on should be a good time. Getting me out of my dungeon to go to the city on a weeknight.

I think you can blame Ed, though. I think that's mostly Ed, thing. And being a good, you know, that's a good company, man. Yeah. Yes, good company, man. Yeah, Ed's coming into town.

So yeah, I definitely want to hang out with him and hopefully some other of our friends will be there as well. Looking forward to it. A couple of, I think, interesting games, too, which is part of why, like I want to leave in time and get there. I want to miss some football.

I think we have some interesting football games to watch tonight, too. So that's part of it. But, yeah, first we're going to jump into some of our takeaways for, you know, week six. We got the first coach fired answered since we joined Mayo this morning. So, yeah, we get some takeaways there and then look forward at some of the early lines for week seven. Then we'll kind of walk through Sharpstack here and get some maybe some Monday night football takeaways from the tool. If you have not taken advantage of the free seven-day trial of sharps deck yet, highly recommend and encourage you to do so.

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I talked about him on the mail today. He was going to get there. Unfortunately, Cam Ward dropped the ball, literally and figuratively trying to throw to him there. Very, very, very, very end of that game. But yeah, it's a tough beat. I can't. I'm done with these bad quarterbacks, Connor. I told you this earlier, sweating out Isaiah Davis,

who's hitched his wagon to Justin Fields early in the day. this is two weeks in a row I've had some Tennessee Titans past catchers and they have to watch a lot of Cam Ward and the Titans and I'm out I'm out like it's part of my it's got part of my handicap now he's like good opportunity low line situations with these players that are attached to really bad inefficient offenses and bad quarterbacks I should just be playing undersconnor yeah I mean it's tough though like I think all the logic made sense and like I think that some of these the problem with like betting these So I think you can bet, like, bad players on good teams or okay teams and, like, stable situations. And you can bet, like, maybe decent players in decent situations. But the problem we run into with, like, TBD, like, Gunnardelm's probably fine. I don't know. I mean, I think he's, like, you know, he's probably-round rookie tight end. We don't know.

Yeah, like, he's probably fine. In bad situations, it's like, I think, like, part of the reason I love taking, like, these, like, shitty unders and, like, stuff like that, like, low is, like, I think the floor on these guys is, like, so much lower than, like, But you can, you can't project like Justin Fields that 45 passingers. Like that's not, that would be a terrible projection. But like it's in the range of outcomes only for a guy like Justin Fields, you know. It's fair.

So I don't know. I kind of think that like the more that I've done this. Like I like the shitty overs, like the over 10 yards, but like on better teams, like decent teams or better. Yeah. I don't know. We're figured it out as we go, right? I mean, we don't know.

Yeah. Look, I mean, you know, felt good. You know, I think if you read the handicap, you probably would feel good. You would, you know, it's part of my job. job is to kind of sell you on what I saw that hopefully makes you feel better and tail it. But yeah, I felt good about it. And it was tough beat. Yeah.

Them die back QBs than being under dork like Connor. Yeah. Like I mix them in. They are partial units for me. They're not things that I'm also pushing out to subscribers because it's, you know, miserable, miserable process. Like I think of like the two losses that I have that stick with me the most. this year were unders on tackles that I push out to the group and it's like

kenneth walker hasn't gone over i mean kenned walker kenneth murray has not gone over his tackle line again since he did in week one on an island game the first game of the season where everyone's like chomping at the bit to get the season started oh tackles are back and here we go like an l and an under week one it sits with me and then sedger gray who popped off for fucking 95 tackles uh you know an under would look like he was going to be benched and is definitely not benched so hey What you do? Live and learn, trying to make better decisions the next week.

But yeah, I mean, I'm with you, Jeff. Like to live your life as an underbetter, tough. Incredible. Yeah. You had a good week, week six. So it's good. Hey. And not in the process.

You printed last year. So not hitting the process. Just, no, I got to catch up with you this year. I think you and Jake were ahead of me. We had some, you know,

people in the Discord who were upset with like, you know, I think we had, I mean, we have just like a bad Sunday night football. I think it was like two of Jake's my picks lost. Like, because Jared Gough, like, imagine being down 20 and I'd be able to complete like not even have five attempts. Like you just went four and out.

Like, what kind of fucking bullshit ass offense is this? Like, I mean, what are we doing here? So, yeah, that sucked. And then people were like, oh, we're not making any money, blah, blah, blah. Like, I mean, it happens. Like, we're going to have up and downs. You know, it's like we're not, it's, betting doesn't go like this. Like, it's going to be like this and up and then, you know, it'll eventually get its way up there.

but it's not a straight line. So we'll get that. And I think you made a great point. Having realistic expectations is an important piece. Unit sizing is an important piece. We've been doing this for like six years now with third party tracking. Neither of us have had a losing season. And I'm not talking about like skinnier teeth, profitable.

Like typically minimum 20, 25 unit profitability for, you know, five years. in this current iteration at four for four third party tracking all official plays all multiple outs write-ups all that stuff there's also other value that i think that you did a good job laying out too like like you watch the show on friday hopefully you got the matthew golden uncorrelated because that hit depending like what you played for his yards at like seven to maybe 13 to one uh you hit one the week before with travis hunter um you know like i lost last night on gibbs receiving heaving, but I also gave out a correlated Chamari Connor and Amara reception, you know, parlay that I say, hey, these are correlated really well.

I like the Connor line. He got there to half, and that hit right away in the middle of the third quarter. So look, it's going to be ups and downs, but just off of the official tracked plays, we've been doing this for a very long time and just got to ride it out. You have to be thinking about this is in a 22-week window of, you know, regular season in playoffs and not get locked into the ups and downs a week one you know a singular week it's going to happen sorry guys like like the conversation we're we're betting all these as well at least all of that and probably for with most of you probably for more than you are at times

and like that that's just part of it too right like we don't feel we'll feel great about having losing weekend uh personally and then i also feel bad when anytime uh someone hey i can have a good week i can have a winning week because i got three plays tonight yeah about them we got some good CLV and I'm going to be an all for not. All right. Let's buzz through some of the week six games and talk about some of our highlights and then look at how that's kind of transpired on the betting board here for early week seven stuff. Feels like a lifetime ago, but we did have a Thursday night football upset with the Giants and the Eagles. This Jackson Dart situation where like it looked like they've

had a couple of games where the first 15, like the early scripted stuff looked good. I was thinking like, hey, should it just be betting? Giants' first quarter stuff, but they seem to build the full plane out of the first 15 against a, I don't know, we thought the vibes were bad, but they were still 4-0, but now the Eagles are scuffling a little bit, what are your takeaways? Again, it always feels like a lifetime ago, and we're talking about a 3417 Giants win from four days ago. Didn't what's his name retire?

They had a guy retired today. Yeah, it's Daria Smith. Yeah. Who's been playing pretty good for them? I mean, you don't retire. like if you're like things are going well i mean yeah it's weird very weird the vibes are awful i tweeted out last week i was like this is the worst vibes for four and one team ever they go out and just get you know kind of get their dicks kicked in by the giants honestly like it was like

a pretty dominant win and i don't think the jackson dart is awesome i don't think that their team is awesome they they get good pass rush and jackson dart can occasionally make some plays of those legs scataboo is just like a vibes paid and hillis like i don't even know like you He just smashes through dudes. Like, you know, I don't know if he's really all that good either, to be honest. So, like, it's all these guys who I don't know if they're any good. I don't really have much reason to believe in the team, but they're fun and they're, they're like the opposite vibes.

They're two and four. And they have significantly better vibes than the Eagles right now. We're four and two way more talented, way better team. But I don't know. I mean, they beat him. So for me, it's kind of just like the Giants are going to be a team. I'm probably not betting against. But maybe there's going to be some value, honestly, and betting against them in future.

Yeah, I mean, the whole thing with the Giants coming into the season, it was just a schedule, right? Schedule was brutal, remains brutal, but what are you do? I mean, at Denver, at Philly, San, I mean, they're dogs the rest of the way. But again, at least they're a little bit more viable. We do have Jackson Daris, the new offensive rookie of the year, favorite the Betty Markets after Emeka, Abuka went down with a hamstring injury, does typically play itself out as that type.

of market where if you get a quarterback that shows a pulse that's going to play for the majority of the season, which is kind of where we'll be here at the end with Jackson Dart. That boats pretty well. It's not a bet that I'm looking to make, but congratulations if you have some early numbers on Dart there.

You know, he's, I think, probably the deserved favorite. I know that you have a different look. We'll probably get to that here shortly, and I think it's a really good look. It's probably the best look on the board price-wise. But Jackson-Dark is a favorite. I think it's really fascinating. It seemed to be dogs.

So good. It's true. Jeff, yeah, no hat. Jeff, occasionally we'll mix in no hat. I don't know. Hair looks decent. You know, it's my GRP. Took a shower today.

Hair looks good. Do you think GRP's coming out tonight? Should I text him and ask him out? I just don't want to have to. No, no, because we, now we've crossed the line. GRP's coming out, our boy, the whale capper. I'm not okay with this. He's coming at Whale for what?

He's coming at Whale cab. He's now going to track whale. He's a fancy talker. I'm out. I'm out. Like when he was doing it, sure enough, but like, you don't come at Whale. Consider whales, you know, part of the family. And that's Bush League.

So, you know, start tracking people when you, you know, winning a bunch of bets. When you're taking a bunch of Ls all the time, you make your brand to try to, you know, body other people. It's not a good look. Has whale class? back responded i must i've not seen it i have not seen it i just saw uh george with it and saw some stuff in the in the chat in our chat so yeah yeah oh man 15 minutes is hopefully hopefully hopefully up here soon so all right london game started off sunday i you know for what was fascinating were as bad as justin fields and the jets were had the lead late in that game and a legit shot

to win the football game and couldn't figure it out again like the clock management the unwillingness to play actual football and be competitive was just wild the first half stuff was insane and I agree like the end of the game stuff was nuts should we just be like questioning about the Broncos moving forward 1311 win in london but they they've beaten some good teams though and they've like lost to not good teams and so this is like one of those things where I think they're just, maybe they play down to their competition, maybe they just, I don't know. For me, I'm a little bit befuddled by the Broncos.

What I feel good about is that their defense is very good and that their offense can be okay. You know how many guys had a carry for the Broncos on Sunday? I'm just looking this up now. This is crazy. Eight, eight different players had a rushing attempt. Marvin Mims, Jaliel McLaughlin, Troy Franklin, Adam Prentice, R.J. Harvey, Evan Ingram, Bo Nix, and J.K. Dobbins. it's so weird

you get all these different wide receivers in the mix, tight ends in the mix on radio sweeps and stuff yeah that's that's fascinating I mean they're home to the Giants here in week seven basically six and a half

seven's out there too it's you know I'm with you I'm not down on the Broncos it's just kind of a weird game and I think the overseas stuff is weird too it's a tricky tricky spot another good spot for a Jackson dart under maybe

yeah I mean, it's all, it all could come crashing down again here. It doesn't like to throw that much anyway, so it's fun. Giants' first quarter, Broncos game. Yeah, stuff. Love it. Other one, Rams on the road in Baltimore, they end up covering, I guess, you know, winning by margin,

but a kind of a strange situation with the way that that game played out. Really couldn't pull away. It was, you know, 3-3 early, early missed, like, field goal. This is the puka stuff that I was worried about, Connor. Like, just feels inevitable the way he plays and just things happen. Looks like Puga's going to be out for a little bit with an ankle injury. Good call by you on the weekend, too. Like, not really thinking that the Cooper Rush stuff and the risk of benching was tied into his market numbers.

And it probably should have been. And I tailed it gently and I was annoyed that I should have tailed it more aggressively. So 17-3 win as the Ravens kind of. shift into, I think, early season, preseason Ravens coming out of the bite. What do you thoughts? Yeah, I mean, their running game got going. They got, I mean, this game could have easily gotten way different.

Like, they stopped a field goal and then had a long drive. I think got stuffed on the one, maybe, on a fourth and goal, something like that, which would have put them up, I think either 10-3 or maybe tied to 10-10. I remember exactly when that was, when that was. But, I mean, they were just like, I think that's how they're going to have to win right now, I like it all without Lamar, but I think Lamar's coming back. So it's good to see the running game get going. The defense played better than I expected.

I mean, that's like they, they're going to figure it out even with the injuries. I think they're going to figure it out in, like, how to make it work. Not going to be as dominant as we thought. But, I mean, and then the Stafford, Puka stuff is not good with Puka, likely to miss quote sometime, as you mentioned there. So we'll see. I mean, the Rams are just, again, great when everyone's healthy and wildly fragile if Stafford, Puka, one of those two is down. I'm interested to see what it looks like without Puka because I think

Adams can carry most of the load, to be honest. I think he's good, but I mean, Pooka's just been such a beast. Like, it's really tough to replace that kind of production. He trusts him so much. Yeah, I think it's going to be really hard to take advantage of that. And like, you know, Tuzu Awell with a hamstring that popped up midweek. Like that could be a, like, he was questionable heading in the game, but that could be a multiple week injury too, right?

So there was some guys being dusted off getting routes in that game. I was like, who is this? So that for a little bit is going to be, it's going to be tricky. So again, the Rams do have a week six by. I'm sorry, week seven by here. So at least they get one week off helps tutu a little bit. But, yeah, Beach to see, they are extraordinarily fragile. Carolina, 30 to 27 against Dallas.

Again, the Rico Dowell Show, bonkers with his back-to-back insane performances. Look, I feel like we keep doing this. to the panthers i don't know that we're wrong but like we kind of put the panthers stuff last week in a box because like that was the dolphins no even the good stuff that like we saw from them a couple weeks ago from the second half of that game against the cardinals and all the cardinals like they literally lost three corners in the game and like oh man it's carnal's not that good and they lost all their carers and like now we're doing it against dallas who also I don't know how good they are.

Like, you know, Dax's very good, but the defense is struggling. You're not stopping the run. You wanted to invest in stopping the run because Micah couldn't stop the run. Well, no one's stopping the run. It looks like your corners are basically, I mean, like baseball fans, three true outcomes, right? We're looking at like pick six or just getting absolutely cooked. You know, Ted McMillan went off.

Marie going off, Bryce looked good. Run defense has been pretty good. And they really shut down Dallas and kind of made them play with one hand time in the back. They tried. They looked pretty good getting George Piggins involved. But any takeaways are we kind of shortening the Panthers here incorrectly? No, I think they still suck.

But they get the Jets next week. So it's true. Like you get the Jets. And then it gets a little bit harder there from there. So you got the Jets next week. I mean, I would honestly not surprise me after two wins against the Dolphins and Cowboys that they, like, lose to the Jets.

Like, that would not surprise me at all. But the Jets are, I think, a worst team than the Panthers right now, but then they have bills at Packers next two weeks after. So if they do be the Jets, I don't know, great buying point on whatever you want to bet on the bills and Packers

because, I mean, those spreads just can't be high enough, I don't think. Yeah, this has moved a little bit, too. This is, even for the most part now. Let's see. paying Panthers are, you know, one, you know, anywhere from one and a half point favorites to, you know, one point underdog. I think this is two and a half, you know, jets were two and a half point favorites and

look heads. So there's some positive market sentiment on the Panthers again. Not huge moves. We're flip-flopping on the other side of zero, but not nothing. So interesting to see what happens. And then I get to your point. I don't know if we even get the answers of what the Panthers are here against the Jets. So are we going to see a

Tough match up against the Jets, right? But if the Panthers run D is a thing, like, what are they going to do? You can obviously throw on them. Like Mike Jackson got cooked by George Pickens all day. You know, but the Jets might not have Garrett Wilson. I don't know. We should be jumping on this Panthers line, which is wild.

Panthers road favorites. And we're like, yeah, let's lay it. If you kind of feel like that's the right side. Gets me, Jeff. backed up yeah i don't know i yeah i'm just the good news we don't have to bet every game so i'm probably just not going to bet that one but i do think that the panthers are probably the right side hell of a point i don't have a better game 31 27 colts against a let jacobi cook cardinals offense that uh showed a pulse with uh without kiler murray who uh yeah that's that's tough and marv went down

in the middle of this one with a conchusion um kind of wanted to see more of a solidified curb stomping here from the colts to really think that they're like legit but again i definitely think that they're rightfully where they are in the division uh should win this division again if they don't have just a cluster of injuries got some good pressure which again kens jacobi perc that they should be able to do but that's it they can really mask some of the issues they have in the secondary connor if they're able to generate pressure like they did in this game any takeaways here on the call side they went super pass heavy with per se which is interesting i mean 44 attempts for jacobi just 24 carries on the ground split back field with

bam night michael carter um you know definitely it was an interesting choice there i mean heard some rumblings that that was going to be the case coming into this game that they might just go like pass heavy i didn't think 44 attempts you know shout to you for talking about per set being underrated potentially or being like you know i'm not as good as kailer but like i just wanted to talk you off of blind betting all cardinals receiver unders basically all i was trying to do yeah and i did play some marvin erison junior unders and got lucky because uh yeah yeah i got really lucky he had 32 receiving yards like in the first half um maybe early in the first half like second quarter something like that and got injured so definitely got lucky there one of the many benefits of betting unders you

know, but I didn't release it. I just played it personally. And then I was, then I talked to you guys and I was like, yeah, I'm not going to add anything else. So it wasn't a big play, just something small. And then the Colts, like Tyler Warren, you mentioned like us talking about, you know, rookie of the year here. I think he's in a great spot.

He's as high as like, I still think still nine to one in some spots. He's six to one in most places. But, um, let's here. Now it's plus 750 fan duel's best price. So I think that that's, I mean, that's a good look. I think honestly right now, 30% plus target share. just continues to be dominant, crushing on a good team. Like, they're going to keep winning.

He's, I mean, going to put up some of the most tight end rookie yards ever. Like, it should be comparable to Brock Bowers last year, I think. I don't even know. What is he on pace for? I know. Like, is he pacing for that or is that, like, or less? Like, but either way, he's going to be super involved in an awesome team. For sure.

Yeah. The Puka stuff actually kind of helps Jonathan Taylor. the offensive player of the ear market as well. Again, really tough to grab these lines currently. Looks like NGM is a little off market and it's tough to get down a bunch there. But, you know, Fanduel and Caesars at plus 150. He's the favorite, sizably, really, with, you know, Bejohn and Jackson Smith and Jigba, right behind them, Puka dips, obviously quite a bit because if you're looking at, you know,

probably at least a game or game or more. Again, the buy week helps, so maybe not. But maybe it's time to buy the dip on Puka. but any thoughts on Jonathan Taylor offensive player the year? I kind of think this market's pretty like open. I don't know. I think there could be like someone that comes out and just kind of crushes. Like John the Taylor's obviously been a stud,

but I mean, there's going to be games which the Colts are not going to be able to the ball 20 plus times and things just might become a little bit different there for that, like for those outcomes. So I don't know who it's, I don't know if there anyone down the board that like makes sense to you. I feel like, I don't know. I mean, it's like, uh,

James Cook's been playing super well. Jemir Gibbs could obviously just start crushing down the stretch easily. There's one name. It's interesting to me. Josh Jacobs is 60. Yeah. He's just not that different than Jonathan Taylor. You know,

and if you had the situation where like these bold guys are just scoring every week. And if, you know, you have a couple of breakout games for Josh Jacobs and the Packers win the division, because that's kind of the leg. out that I think Jonathan Taylor has right now on Josh Jacobs is that their culture the clear favorite to win South, whereas obviously there's a lot more competition for the Packers to win that division. 60 probably feels, you know, maybe he should probably maybe be at least 30 or so, right? If he's really continues to be really good, they win the division. He scores 16 times on the back of, you know, 1,500 plus all-purpose yards. And, you know, they don't lose.

too many more games. I think that's probably pretty interesting. Yeah, and I like that one. Just things I would have never said before the season, RICO Dowdell, higher chance of winning an office player of the year than Buck Irving and Karen Williams. Crazy. Crazy times. Yeah. All right. Next, public play. It seemed like I didn't hear anyone on Jacksonville this week. Seattle goes on the road 20 to 12 without, you know,

Three starters in the secondary generated a ton of pressure up front to Marcus Lawrence, Byron Murphy, Chenow Nuuzza, all really, really strong in this game. Again, Jacksonville, fraudulent Lawrence under pressure, cannot get it done. They did shoot themselves in the foot again, but that kind of speaks to it too is just, I don't say not well coached, but like you just can't have that many penalties, awful penalty. Obviously on the rook here, Travis Hunter, lining up in the neutral zone on a 61-yard Bryant-Thomas Jr. touchdown. But again, I think they still had like, I don't know, 12, 13 penalties on the day, some holds that were really costly.

In Seattle, like Sam Donald continues to play a really good ball. JSN is absolutely clicking right now and feels somewhat unstoppable. Yeah. There's really no one else. Like, it's a bunch of guys being okay around them. But like, man, he is dominating target chair. You know that everything's going through him, kind of like these, you know, peak, wide receiver ones and he's very much that right now sale is real and three and oh on the road

here with mike buntled cooper cup three targets to jacks with the jiggo was 13 um like i think the only reason that cooper cup's doing anything honestly is because of jackson spith and jigba being like out there and so sometimes he just like they just like forget about cooper and he's just like oh okay he's like or like he's playing his own heavy team and just sits there and just like finds his own i think he'd still do that um that's still in his wheelhouse but yeah this jags team 12 carries for 27 yards for Travis ETN. I was very close playing ETN under. Should have pulled the trigger, obviously, in hindsight.

But still, I think this team we probably want to keep fading. Like, their record is 4 and 2, but I don't think that they're 4 and 2 worthy team. So, like, we need to find ways to keep fading them. Where are they at this week? Well, that's right. So, yeah, the Rams, sorry, the Rams are by next week after they come out of this London game. So, yeah, Rams, Jags in London this week. uh rams three point favorites i mean i i would like them but i don't love it like i mean

without puka like yeah i know that's tough we don't have been every game we don't we don't we don't spend every game that's the good news yeah i don't want jacksville i just don't i don't want jacksville uh that offensive line is struggling with uh lawrence struggling under pressure that Rams front is going to be able to get pressure and that's that's kind of enough I'm also not dying to lay the three but yeah we'll see I mean they you know

Newsom got hurt in that game left early play like 17 snaps so that's a bummer you make a trade at corner and the guy goes down so I don't know the you know what's how that's going to play out for this week but it's not it's not great for them overall Seattle is another interesting side here

for week seven they play at home against Houston again Houston coming off of a bye but tough travel spot tough road game and yeah three point favorites Seattle it's juiced up actually moving out to three and a half in a lot of spots

happy to fade Houston yeah three is a really good luck there three minus one 20 it's circa like three and aft and other areas but it's like minus 102 so I don't know if you really want the three you get I'm sure you can get it at like minus 120ish 125 that's important to But I think, yeah, Seahawks, alts are probably a player. It actually, I think it probably helps the Seahawks that they're playing on Monday night, right?

So it's like they get like not a mini buy, but like an extra day of rest to kind of combat the full Texans by. So I don't know. I'm just not very convinced that the Texans like can figure anything out. Like I don't, I think it's kind of telling when you come into a season, you got a full off season of prep. You got like, you know, a new OC coming in. And I think you can kind of tell like pretty quick, like what the deal is. is and if they got it or not and i just don't think nick cayley i don't think he's got it yeah i mean what we saw from them last time before the buy is against ravaged raven's team it's not

it's not real right like so uh yeah like i said sam don't know's playing really good and not getting enough credit for i don't think and while the running back situation is annoying the fantasy owners uh you know and it makes the prop market a little bit challenging two really good backs and like they're figuring it out And you'd rather, I guess, have two than have none. And I don't know, still want to buy anything Seattle-wise. I still think that they're really interesting. Where are they at to win the division here?

Maybe we need to be looking at some futures on this side. Because, again, with the injuries, do the Rams, again, Rams just being, I don't know, they can be really thin. And miners continue to have massive, yeah, three to one. It's kind of interesting. It's pretty good look. I mean, they've been pretty injured, too. Like, we need Witherspoon back.

We need, you know, someone else was out too last week. Yeah, Julian Love was out. Rie Kulham was out. Rekuland's struggling this year. But, yeah, love and Witherspoon are really impactful for them. So that's, yeah, we're getting a good play. Same thing. They're like, they got six guys in the tight end room.

Like, they're getting production kind of from all of them. Like, they're just fine ways to get it done. So three to one, that's, that's an interesting look. I like that. I like Seattle. Yeah, I agree. All right, next, the Chargers win in Miami. Would have been a bad loss for them.

They needed some late fourth quarter heroics there. 2927. You know, no QJ here. And we saw kind of a nice game from Lad in particular. Some questions about what's going to happen there in the backfield and kind of ran the hot hand. It was kind of split evenly. And then Comani Vidal really ran away with it there.

Just a bowling ball. Like reminded me of like old school. MJD. I'm like just all thigh, real small load of the grounds. It looks really good. 18 carries, 124 yards, some really big plays. And Miami struggling down bad. I mean, every time I watched, I had that game.

Every time I looked, it's just like 18's running for 10 yards, 8 yards. Like, how are they not? Like, how, first of all, how are they running all over the chargers who've had a really good run D? And now they're not one in this football game because it feels like they're doing whatever they want on the ground. but vibes real down in Miami still. Yeah, vibes were real down in Miami.

Like, I mean, they came out today, though, and said, like it would take a lot or take something like big for them to fire Mike McDaniel, which is interesting. I don't know. Maybe they're looking through, maybe he's looking through the trees and seeing everything here, you know, like looking and seeing like, all right. I mean, I think Mike McDaniel is a good coach.

They just maybe just need some vibes change with Tua. Maybe it's Tyreek, you know, like clear them out. I don't know, help the defense a little bit. I think personally they should just be building from the offensive line. They just probably need like five straight drafts of like multiple offensive alignment, you know what I mean, to try and insulate whatever they out there because you can't even run like Mike McDaniel doesn't even have like his full allotment of plays because they, if you remember early, like their offensive line was pretty

good and they were hitting like Tyreek deep like all the time. And like it brought up like it opened up the short game so much more for them. But now it's like all they have is a short game than. I mean, it's just not going to work. Yeah, I mean, you had turn on armstead of left tackle and you had some bodies up front that could kind of solidify things and everything was so timing oriented and now it just feels he feels in his own head, not confident and you take, you know, obviously Tyreek stepping back a little bit.

Now you take him out of the lineup. I think you're having to lean on Darren Waller, who is again, surprised us, I think. But like, it just shouldn't be that heavily like, dependent. upon right like for for that to go so three picks for two uh one the first one was waddle's fault to be honest like waddle yeah dropped the ball bubbled in it but like you know three picks turn the ball over uh defense remains an issue you know they're they have four guys up front they should have a really strong pass rush and they just can't seem to get home consistently either so that's a little bit challenging when you know everything that you have defensively is

predicated on your ability to get uh you know pressure up front because that's secondary is porous you're not getting home enough this is this is why everyone thinks your coach should be fired five one in five booze are out pretty loud so tough tough tough scene uh in miami what's going on with them this week they are road dogs in cleveland which i think is a fascinating game uh the Miami Cleveland and uh Carolina Jets games are uh real barn burners Yeah, I don't know if they're a good matchup for like Like I could I don't know if Cleveland is a good matchup for Miami

Like Miami feels like a team that might lose by A lot to Cleveland You know, if they go back to Quinchon Judkins Like I bet Dylan Gabriel probably plays fine And on the other side like Cleveland's defense is still very good Very good So Yeah, you'll be fine

Yeah, literally just run the opposite of whatever you did last time last week, just run the football, play decent defense, and let Miami beat themselves. I mean, it's borderline inevitable. Yeah, segue into that's our next one. 23-9, Pittsburgh. It was a impossible schedule spot for the Browns having played last week in London. You get another road game in the division against the team coming off of a by, just unprecedented situation. And Rogers played okay, played well enough.

He took advantage of a good matchup for D.K. Medcalf, he cooked. Defense had a field day. Like, they really played extraordinary football, I think. And again, they, I don't know. I don't know why you would just drop the quarterback back 56 times against the really strong pass rush when they've struggled against the run. But that's what Kevin Stefanski and company did. They put a lot on Dylan Gabriel, and he was not up to the challenge.

although this game was actually closer than I think the score even indicated. This was contested football game, one score game in the fourth quarter. Yeah, they could have easily won. I just think it's more of a testament of like Pittsburgh not being all that dominant of the team. Their record is four and one.

I think we talked about this though, pre-flop or pre-season is like their early season was going to be good. They were going to be like they could win a bunch of these games. And then after this game or maybe in the next couple weeks, let me see what it is. I mean, I guess the Bengals are easy, too. They have the Bengals, but then it's like Packers.

Colts are tough, obviously now. Chargers are tough. Then it's Bengals again. I mean, but then they have this stuff like bills, Ravens, Lions, Ravens again with Lamar. I would assume both those games. So like, I think this is a great, well, maybe not this time. But against, after the Bengals game,

I think it's a pretty good sell spot here on this Steelers team. I agree. They are favorites now in the division that did shift, because that was not the case, but that situation is tough, that schedule gets rough, and then the Baltimore schedule softens up quite a bit. It is fascinating. We touched on it with Mayo this morning.

We'd definitely love to have a bigger number on the Ravens, but I do think they're the right bet if you're looking to lip into the futures market and take some AFC North stuff. The Ravens coming out of the buy, you know, other guys that have been out are, like most of them are not season-long injuries, most of them. So that is important to look at. So they're going to get healthy coming out of the buy. and start playing downhill, I think, a little bit because that schedule softens up.

So wouldn't jump in on the Steelers now, I guess. No, I think Baltimore is fine, but, yeah, like, plus 180 is, like, the best price. Don't love it. They still got to run really hot second half the season. Yeah. Jeff, I've been going down, Ledger or List. I'm not picking games. You know, you got mad that, you know, Newt and not leading the show with Drake May hype shows he's really a midwesterner now.

I want to thought that that's personal. It's a personal attack. 2519, not as close as the score indicated. The refs definitely had the Saints and the points here. They lost still. Over 100 yards in the score wiped off the board for phantom calls. I mean, go, anyone look up, you know, Stefan Diggs' illegal contact on, you know, one of the touchdowns that was called back there.

It's just absolutely insane. but look dray may did it all kind of himself they had no running game to speak of we're kind of thinking hey it makes it a little bit easier now like romandre and travion because you know we took gipson out of the the mix maybe an understanding of clear roles moving forward no they they had no shot uh draig may i believe was the leading rusher as well uh in this game 28 yards so saints are feisty they did a great job again coaching matters like they deserve a ton of credit for what they're doing with Spencer Rattler who took sacks at an insane rate last season and he got the ball out I think like 2.2 seconds on average on Sunday like just

don't let him sit back and try to make a ton of decisions have him make decisions very quickly they peppered a lave with targets he played well so kudos to the saints I think that's why they continue to be in games because they have good coaching but a drink may moving up the board MVP wise Connor um hey he's cooking maybe yeah i mean he's playing really well he had the other one pull off the board too right the pop douglas like another bomb the second bob douglas yeah yeah yeah so like you could have easily had like 330 and four basically or whatever with 330 and you know whatever it ended up being so i think that's that's interesting the saints run defense i think is actually decent i don't know maybe that's like they've played pretty well yeah um which is kind of

surprising like they you again normally get a lot of volume against them because they've been losing a lot but like on a efficiency basis so they can keep the game close they're not that bad um they can't run the ball though saints can't run the ball camara 10 for 31 kendre 8 for 21 not good there receivers are playing fine um joan johnson now is just like went from being a hero in the first couple weeks to do nothing i don't know we don't have any insight to know why that is and rishi just continuously lives on like the deep ball so I don't think this is a good team again one in five record reflects that but they had a chance to win I mean there was like down six with the ball with a couple minutes left somehow like Patriots definitely outplayed them and we're definitely a better team but the Saints still almost found a way to like at least keep it close so I don't know Patriots maybe played with their food too much maybe just had bad unlucky but they got to they got to run the ball eventually they're like figure out to do that that's thousand percent yeah yeah kind of get it done teams can't run against new england either and that's part of i think why the

saints struggled but um yeah so you know poor tj it's gonna catch some strays here um shout up t jernandez our old uh collie here four for four when we're tj used to be in charge of uh like organizing some off season content for us and they uh we wanted to write like rookie profiles this is you know three years ago now and um i mess around the side i'm like hey i didn't see kashon booty on the list I'd like to write up can I write up kashon booty for the patriots he's like dude are you serious I'm like yeah this is like one of like he was like the number one high school prospect going into lsu like he was really good and then had some off field stuff and like like yes he's like no we want to write about guys that are gonna like ever in their life

be fantasy relevant teach here we are kishan booty getting it done uh you know new england's probably really tough to like nail down who was going to be we saw a couple of great games from Stefan Diggs. I thought Pop Douglas was going to be more involved this year. I've got some really good Hunter Henry games. But I think this actually speaks to why I remain bullish on Drake May is that he doesn't have an over-reliance on one guy. They do actually have some guys emerging.

We haven't seen anything from Kyle Williams yet. They took a couple shots on Sunday with him, which is good to see. But like maybe he steps up post-by late in the season. The, you know, the paths and the offensive weapons are kind of emerging. here a little bit like we're getting more out of digs more out of booty um than i was expecting so and the schedule just continues to open up so it's like i mean they're a great spot you talk about it every week and i think it's worth talking about again like their their schedule's really easy going forward so yeah you get the uh titans this week and browns next week and uh yeah just

not a lot of else remaining clearly on the schedule so it doesn't mean they can't win or lose games that they're going to be favored in but they're going to be favored in i think all but three games moving forward. All right, Raiders are the death nail to the Brian Callahan era, 20 to 10. His tenure as a head coach, 4 and 19, not great. Raiders, I don't know what to make of it, but look, you get to play the Titans every week. You look okay, 20 to 10.

Anything you can take away here from a sloppy game against the sloppy Titans team? Genti was still just kept in getting hit in the backfield. The Raiders, when they can, don't have a ton of interest in throwing, it seems like I'm just going to try and keep it on the ground, which makes sense because I think they realize with their current receiving core and everything, that they're not really angino and like the offensive line,

they're much better as like a ball control kind of team and like maybe getting some scrappy wins here. I'm interested to see what the Titans do going forward. Like it's kind of felt like Cal-Anne already wasn't that involved anyways. So, like, I don't know, like, Cam Ward, what, I mean, I'm interested to see if Cam Ward can do anything. I don't know, like, be a leader, do something, get his guys going. Because right now it's, I mean, he's just, like, out there. He's trying.

He's getting better, I think. Like, the games look better, but it's been against, like, the Raiders and whoever they beat two weeks ago. So, you know, it's like, it's tough. They're sloppy, though. I mean. They're a really, really, really bad team. They're a really, really bad team. Seven penalties.

that's what uh three of 13 on third down they give up six sacks again like they're just giving up six sacks like every game sacks are killers drive killers um you think about them like early downs they put you behind the chain up behind the chains down in distance wise third downs they're they cause a turnover on downs like their sex can be absolutely brutal and you're just giving out five six seven every week that's really really tough to come back from then interception a couple lost fumbles really, really, really tough. Calvin really got dinged up in this game, too. Another scenario where everyone having to move up the ladder a little bit is

petrifying for any upside. We'll see what they look like as Mike Grable returns to Nashville this week to get some revenge on a front office that he feels that he was done really wrong by. So we'll see. Pat's currently seven. There's some seven and a halfs. out there looks like pinnacle just came back out with a seven and a half though it is plus 105 on the new england side so some you know half the half point makes a big difference but

that's interesting um yeah i don't know i don't feel like we've learned much about the rave about the raiders because they still didn't pull away as you mentioned yeah right exactly it was it was a game to the end i don't know i mean they're not a very good team either yeah i may have to go on the road to Kansas City who gets she rice back and seems to have caught their mojo is about between 11 and a half and 13 on the on the chiefs so if you like blindly taking double digits in the division your mouth is watering but again you don't do a bit every game reminder yeah that's a tough tough sell for me on the raiders yeah all right same of bay 30 San Francisco 19, the attrition on the

Niners side continues. Fred Warner is a brutal loss. Again, we talk about some injuries that are happening. It was a piece together, highly relying on a lot of rookies to begin with in San Francisco defensively. And they were really encouraged, and I think some of the

rookies were playing really well. But you had two stalwarts. You had, you know, a top three, top five edge rusher in Nick Bosa. He's lost the season, and you have undoubtedly the middle linebacker in the game who does so much for them and he's now out for the season going to be really tough for the Niners to kind of bounce back for these another team that's

suffering a ton of injuries is Tampa Bay and it doesn't seem to matter for Baker Mayfield who continues to cook and again the Baker buzz I think what are we looking at like nine days ago Baker was like 16 to 1 to be the MVP it's put together a couple of very very nice games and has got himself squarely in the mix among the up rush lawn of the MVP race thoughts on buck sniders it's really tough to look at baker and not be like just wildly impressed with what he's done with like what he has basically at this point and all the different coaches and everything is going on i think baker may feel just like the x factor right now on this team

that being said like it's just that the the future outlook is not great you know it's like yeah it's tough i'm going to miss some time godwin's going to miss some time evans come i be coming back next week they said uh so tvd there i just it's It's really tough to, I guess, they just got to survive, honestly, until their injuries, like, subside, and they, they're healthier. And the Niners, specifically on another side are just really, they're going to keep winning games because they're better than a lot of other teams still. But, like, it's, Kendrick Bourne felt like just, like,

it's such a pivotal piece of their passing game now, which is hilarious. Like, this is, like, this is, this guy wasn't even on the roster. He was cut from the Patriots, like, you know, preseason. And now he's putting up. 100 yards a game for this this 49ers team and like joan jennings is clearly not 100% he was just kind of out there you know just doing whatever so I don't know I mean this niners team just needs they need to get healthy and they also need like their their guys back but some of them were just gone for the season like you lose bosa and fred warner like you're just probably toast right

yeah it's tough man I mean the best case scenario is they just become an overs team yeah as a season when is they get healthy right like you start to keep that offense humming you get you're all back. Jennings maybe gets healthy. You still have CMC. It definitely feels next. There's got to be some final destination vibes going on for CMC. Like, you know, like, what do I do? So that's, that's really tricky. They are three point home favorite against the Falcons on Sunday night next week. And, you know, interested to see how that line is impacted by what happens on Monday night. you know if the falcons kind of show that could get a little bit shorter but yeah i mean schedule is also remaining very soft for them that was the whole

part of the handicap for them coming in but uh this is again another reason why seattle stuff is pretty interesting at three to one in that division with you know rams being continuing to be thin like they're both very top heavy teams that are very star reliance like there's a lot of similarities and while they're great offensive masterminds that can continue to get more out of less whether it's at quarterback or catcher still gets really hard. And you really thought you were going to have to have, you know, an up rush along performance from Warner and Bosa this year,

considering the surrounding cast, those guys are now out. So it's going to be really hard for the Niners to generate a ton of pass rush. They don't have a ton of dogs like, you know, Bryce Huff has got to do a lot of, a lot of heavy lifting. He's been okay this year. He's actually been pretty good.

But like you like him a lot when he's working opposite of Nick Bosa versus him just being the guy. Yeah. It's tough. I mean, if they can pull it together and, like, somehow make the playoffs, I mean, they're, who knows, maybe their offense could, like, fully get healthy because that's, like, still a possibility at least, like, you kiddle back, Pierceall, Iyuk, and you have Jennings and, like, you know, like, Kendrick Bourne becomes your sixth pass catcher at that point.

Like, that's not a bad offense, you know, that's, that's okay. You're just going to need to score 40 a game because your defense is, like, toast. Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's their. that feels like their only path Tampa Bay on the other side on the road in Detroit really I mean they're four point four and a half point dogs although there are some five and a halfs which is interesting again probably the attrition that's going on on the Tampa Bay side let's not ignore the attrition going on on on Detroit side in the secondary as well that was definitely the

problem for them last night which is no surprise and Tampa Bay is another it's a team that's going to test even with you know the guys that they're running out here Baker's going to to challenge them vertically and, you know, those guys will have to be, you know, Rockerson will have to be up for a bunch of that. So we'll see how that goes. So interesting game, it's fascinating is that it's still staying in the, like, the low 50s from the total standpoint. So, like, if your concerns are that Tampa Bay is hurt by all the losses offensively,

you would think the total would dip a little bit, but it's kind of holding on. So, I mean, Baker's got Cameron Johnson, you know, he'll be just fine. Cameron with a K Cammer with the K Who I did not know Was on the team I didn't either I didn't know anything about him

Like what's his deal Like who is this guy Like I don't know Is it camera on the singer? Yeah We have other former rappers Catching passes Around the NFL these days

So Yeah Joe said that I just remember that Darren Waller was a rapper This is great Yeah This is good too For Joe

The Clint East with on Twitter. Yeah, that was bots came in heavy on the Friday show to talk to us about Papa Eastwood being a grandfather or something like that. It was a really weird tweet.

Cameron Johnson played college football for the Barton Bulldogs. What is that? Barton Bulldogs. Yeah, do you know what that is? I want to say that Barton is in the Charlotte area. He's from North Carolina.

So, yeah, Barden. Oh, D2. We had a D2 South Atlantic Conference Good for you, buddy making the league from D2 Yeah, this is, I mean, hey, this is great, good for him.

Undrafted free agent in 2024, 5'10, 170. Interesting, 2,300 yards in his college career. So, probably catching passes from a D2 quarterback, so, you know, makes sense.

All right, well, we'll see. Baker, I continue to answer the bell, then you will have earned your spot on the MVP board, for sure. Green Bay comes off a by 2718 against Flacco and the Bengals. Josh Jacobs does his thing. It's a more normal Jordan Love Packer stuff where it's like, there's some big plays, some of the basic stuff, you know, just feels like they should have been comfortably ahead in this game for more kind of get a little tight late, which is a little surprising. I want to give credit to the Bengals who are at least trying some stuff defensively.

They've benched Logan Wilson at linebacker. They're going with two rookies, or at least they did out of nowhere this week, which surprised us in the defensive side of things. But at least like, hey, the guys that we are trying and using all the time aren't getting it done. So we drafted a bunch of rookies. Let's just try that. like at least trying something different. Flacco wasn't good, but again, better than I think what we thought Jake Browning was going to be.

And that was the thesis behind the move in general. Any thoughts on Packers and Bengals? Yeah, the Packers, like the Bengals' demons look decent for a while. Like they were stopping the run early. They were, I mean, keeping Jordan Love at Bay. It wasn't like all just like a slaughter. I mean, yeah, zero first quarter, it was 10, zero and half. Like things were, I mean, I wouldn't say that the Packers were humming offensively by any means.

And then on the other side of the ball, Flacco, at first looked really really really bad it took like some late kind of i don't know heroics the right word but like kind of some late momentum i think to got to get chasen higgins going so i was i was a little worried i mean the first half i was like oh it's you know why did they make this trade like it's it's over like you know so he's but i think he kind of found some rhythm there considering he was traded like i don't even know when late late last week like early yeah monday this week so um the fact that he just comes out here in plays and throws for 219 yards i mean again four point nine yards per attempt not good um but as again better than browning

thousand percent yeah two of seven uh 36 yards on uh intermediate stuff for jordan love just got to get better at that stuff the d ball does a huge amount of the heavy lifting there it's a weapon he's accurate they have guys that can do it um you know and golden's another guy that can do it for sure shout to golden got home for a uncorrelated w for us which we love to see But, yeah, I mean, just want him to be better down to down if we really think that the Packers are going to be a threat late in the season in the NFC playoffs. So can you get these guys to kind of emerge and get healthy as another team that we're – I don't think we're seeing the best version of them. But I want to see a little bit more from the quarterback as we continue. Sunday night, 3017, Kansas City over Detroit.

Again, Detroit was working uphill here to begin with, considering Terran Arnold was out. you know they're just a bunch of injuries you know obviously kirby joseph ryan branch were not 100% DJ reads already on iR you're just not going to last against mohomes and company and they were able to get it done anything to take away from chiefs and lions here pacheco out carried hunt 12 to 6 outperformed him had probably i mean best game of the season which again is not saying very much uh but like mahomes and the chief's offense like passing offense seems a little bit revitalized, which is good. Xavier Worthy was probably not healthy.

I mean, I would assume only four targets. I guess tied for second most of the team with Hollywood, Richard Smith, both getting four and then Kelsey getting seven. This Lions team, it just didn't seem to all come together for them. They tried like a super run-heavy approach, at least early. 17 carries the four for David Montgomery's, you know, interesting. That's notable for sure. And so, I don't know.

I mean, Jameson saw as most receptions of the season. Like, overall, it just seemed disjointed for this, this Lions team. Like, it wasn't, it didn't seem to all come together. And, you know, again, the run-heavy approach that they tried to, like, keep it close with, which they did the first half, they kind of came back to bite them in the second half when, like, they got put behind. They had to throw on, like, three drives, basically, and they just couldn't move the ball that well.

It seemed like they were intentional about getting Jamo involved. Like, that felt like early and often to get him more. Again, still plenty for Amon Rott to eat. Great one-handed touchdown catch for Sam Laporta. But yeah, a not great showing, you know, and even Dan Campbell had talked about it, like probably need to get 30 here tonight to win this football game, considering what they were dealing with defensively and what the Chiefs were going to do, and they couldn't get there.

So, again, interesting to see what they could do here against Tampa Bay. So any other things that we didn't touch on for week six, any week seven looks that we didn't that you want to share here before we wrap uh commanders against the cowboys the thing's kind of interesting like uh i mean this commanders might light up the cowboys um i agree i i'm interested to see like what what do you think it happened tonight like what scenarios move this because we're two and a half um and you know like pinnacle at two and a half minus 102 right that that feels closer to two than it does three so um yeah i mean i with you. If this sits at two and a half, I feel pretty good about that.

Yeah, well, I wonder. I mean, they could easily dominate the bears, but they could also, I think, lose outright, which case you'll probably get a better value. It'd probably be a closer to pick, something like that, I would guess. So, I don't know, I think depending on what you think happens tonight, that could make sense. But yeah, two and a half on a look ahead here, I think is pretty interesting. These Cowboys defense is just so bad. Like, it's, Dack is playing great with nothing or with George Bickens and, you know, a bunch of nobodies. And, yeah, it still just can't get done. Yeah, I agree.

That was jumped out to me for sure. Seattle, when I already mentioned, Seattle minus three, minus 120, fine. I would, you know, feel good about getting the three there versus the three and a half. So I'd be willing to lay that a little bit. The Packers, I want to believe. And I'm still down on whatever's going on in area. Arizona. So less than a touchdown. And what will end up being probably a pretty pro Packers crowd. There's a lot of like greater Milwaukee, Chicago area people that, you know, retirees that live

in Arizona. Like there's going to be some, it's going to be a lot of cheeseheads in that crowd. So a pretty neutral home field situation. I think the Packers at less than seven is probably a decent look. Yeah, Packers, less than seven. I mean, Vikings off a buy against this Eagles team. two and a half point dog home i don't know interesting do you think there's any actual quarterback controversy stuff in minnesota like it's person i don't think good enough right yeah i don't think so either like there was the whole narrative or theory going around that like they bench j jay j mccarthy not really because of his injury or whatever like that whole thing i mean it'd be one thing

if your option was like still sam darnold or they signed daniel jones which i think was an option for them or they maybe had him last year for a little bit of a little bit who's on the practice part. Yeah, I did. Either of those guys, maybe. I mean, it's Carson Wentz, we're talking. I mean, this is like, you know, it can't really be a, he can't give up on JJ McCarthy after two games, you know what I mean?

Or whatever for you. Disastrous team building situation here, especially with the way Sam Donald goes, Wentz isn't playing good enough and you just, there's no way you can feel that you've seen enough, JJ. And I don't think it was that bad. I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't good. Like, it was, it was pretty bad, but like to make a move like that is pretty drastic. Colts money line, maybe against the Chargers?

I don't know. I mean, that's another one that stands out to me. I mean, just based on the way these teams are playing. Maybe it's kind of all baked in there. Yeah. It'd probably be the side. I mean, to be honest, it probably is the right side of that game. Colts getting, you know, a point, point a half.

You know, the more I think about it, especially if we have no Gary Wilson, like, Carolina's probably the right side. It's really are. It's so funny. I don't know. I don't know. New England by margin, by the way. Yes, definitely.

Alts. Yeah. I mean, again, there's the obvious narrative, but like, you can tell me that you're going to get a post-coach pump. But like, do they get a new team? Like, they're not going to get a new team. And that's a problem. So, yeah, Pat's by, Pat's by margin.

Seven is great. Seven minus 105 currently on Fandul. Yes. in on that. Any Monday night football thoughts? Any Sharpstack stuff we could pop up here? See anything we could pick off? Yeah.

Again, you got to take advantage of this people. If you've not already done so, free seven-day trial, no commitment. You know, don't do anything more than check it out for a week. But if you want, MTR 50 for 50% off a month. Let's hear. Luke McCaffrey under two and a half receptions. Yeah, I mean, probably good. He's just not playing very much.

So like minus 140 is worth it. You're seeing minus 170 Fandul, like bookmaker minus 173. I mean, yes, high is basically minus 200. Some exchanges have it minus 175. I think that's interesting.

Caleb underpassing yards I don't necessarily love, but again, like some of the sharper books are like high 220s. Zachert's under. Interesting. Like probably takes five catches to get there at this point. Yeah. So, like I think that's, again, probably a good look.

jane daniels underpassing attempts i don't know i think they might they might go run heavy that could make sense so i mean again we're just kind of trying to like just blindly trust the numbers here so the less the least amount of our opinion the better i will say the jcm stuff like chris rodriga is not officially out if for some reason he is not out i think that you should play um rushing attempts here on jcm under it's like 14 and a half something like that 15 and a half at MGM. I mean, that's a pretty good look if Chris Rodriguez plays.

Because he probably, I mean, I would still assume JCM gets some bulk of the work. But if the bears are more competitive than we think, then there's no way he's getting 15 carries. If Chris Rodriguez plays a decent amount, which I think he would, it's probably not getting 15 carries. Like there's a lot of outs on getting that.

And I would bet it would probably move down to like 12 and a half juiced up, 13 and a half juiced under, something like that range. Yeah, it's a good call. He's looked good. Last time out, obviously he gets the chargers. We're struggling a little bit around defense-wise, but yeah, that's, that's an interesting one. I mean, this number is fully baked into, like, all that, you know, like, that's, you know.

So, like, this is, like, assuming, basically, Chris Rodriguez doesn't play in a good matchup, like, and his favorites. I mean, it's not that often you get numbers in the 70s for guys, like, Jacori-Crossi-Married, you know. Yeah. Debo. What is that? There's receiving yards. Yeah. I don't know but I think that's I have no idea what to do with Debo I keep like looking I keep asking

around ask some other people but like you heard anything massive range of outcomes I think that all of his numbers his rushing numbers are short his receiving numbers are almost certainly short if he's playing a full role but I'm just not that convinced that he is playing going to play a full role so I have no idea yeah I took some 52 and a half um early in the week um this plan I almost rather just haven't ruled out. I mean, it's still a good number. It had climbed up a little bit, but I don't know what to make of it

with the heel injury. And yeah, it could be a bad, bad ticket to be on. While we're alive, they said he was going to play. But I always think, like, I don't know,

whenever you think, like, whenever it's like that close of like, oh, this guy is now going to play, it's like, was it that close to begin with?

Like, that's how injured is this guy, you know what I mean? Yeah. Or you just like guys are like, he's a true game time decision. It's like, well,

no, he's out. He's actually going to be out for like three weeks. Like, okay, what happened overnight? Literally. Coach speaking index had a quote on him, too, from like a couple days ago said, Devo, so Dan Quitt said Debo Sam Bruises his heel. That can be painful to go, but it will usually turn eventually. We'll manage as best we can.

I don't think we'll have to manage it for the season. Sometimes you have to manage it day to day. We'll take it into Monday with him. That's what he said. So, I don't know. I mean, it sounds like it's, I don't know, I don't know. I mean, just like, should probably be, yeah, it's, it's probably just a stay away and, like, not play anything. Yeah.

Yeah, that's, that's it. I play James Cook over 15 and a half rushing attempts. It's juiced out a little bit now on, uh, Draft Kings and Builder still think it's a good look. I actually don't even hate 16 and a half, you know, plus money, uh, like that for tonight. Um, you know, and on some of the Drake London play, I played over five and a half receptions. That's cooked out. You cannot. yeah what are we at now it's dead is it like uh yeah i think it's uh

minus 170 minus 180 yikes yeah i played minus 105 so nice like that um and rome stuff rome's gonna cook tonight we it's out a couple yards but i still think that's a still think that's in place 64 and a half receiving yards for rome i think it's a good spot tonight so let's have a night let's have a night get back uh some of the Gunner Helm Isaiah Davis money from yesterday I love it

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We're going to get, you know, we're going to slop dialed in the lab a little bit more, diversify the portfolio a little bit. The tight end five reception thing is not getting us there. Are we sure block slops next tight end five reception play and just say like. I don't really feel good about it to get it in the parlay and moving forward. I think we should we should introduce a new segment where we veto. we can veto one of each other's plays in the parlay not not overall plays but like we we have a veto once a week if the other two people agree on it which i'm probably going to get

vetoed at something well i don't put my unders in the parlay otherwise you're under still going the parley they would be vetoed every week so um yeah we typically like your overs because they're so they're so we're like oh okay Connor feels really good about this one so i usually the same usually the same ones you were on are like mostly the same ones you're thinking anyway so yeah to be fair my gunner helm 30 plus didn't get us there either so i don't mind I don't mean for slozby gets and strace. I'm still bitter about 49 for Furgy. So, all right.

Appreciate everyone hanging out with us for Connor. I'm Ryan. We'll see you on Friday. Thanks, everybody.