Move The Line - Move The Line - Week 9 Betting Recap & Week 10 Early Predictions!

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

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Hello and welcome to Move Live presented by Sharpstack, Brian Noonan. Joy to here. As always, Conor Helm, it's going on, my friend. Yeah, not too much. Back from Kentucky, brought some venison cheddar alpineo sticks with me. So honestly pretty tasty, got to say. So I brought some of those back. Got a bottle of blends from the Buffalo Trace distillery.

So that was cool. And, you know, ready to get after some more bets this week. week nice big meat stick guy over here you know i've you know made the uh that sounds worse uh than what i mean you know i've uh kind of delved in a little bit to the uh i don't know what you would call i guess it's like a hybrid keto paleo carnivore diet here over the last like seven eight weeks yeah how's that been dude fucking amazing by the way i feel great probably shed 10 pounds. Um, energy levels higher.

Just protein like just nothing else. Just steak, eggs, um, maybe some, you know, some chicken occasionally, but just like, turkey, just eating meat. It's it. True fucking American right here. I mean, true. Yeah. It's incredible.

It's so good. It's, it's, you know, what's her dinner? I know what's for dinner every night. Some combination of, you know, it's like steak and eggs. maybe like steak and sometimes we'll mix in like a little bit of green beans but like you know got the butcher box it might have to hit up mayo's uh i was going to ask this day we said the umah steaks ad came on mid show we were doing it it's thirty five dollars off use promo code mayo good for pat but i want to know what the like the minimum

purchase this like i you know need to stock up the freezer and the meats yeah the guy the guy was staying with like hunts a lot so he um so that he like kills deer and then like gives it to like a butcher and they like make it into like meat sticks and deer like venison steak and like you know ground venison and all this stuff we had like a whole freezer full like venison which is apparently pretty lean and like i think it tastes pretty good it's a little game year but like if you're into like if you like meat it's i think it's pretty tasty so um and then yeah wiley said here guy comes lexington does not hit me up sick sick stuff i thought wiley lived in Louisville for some reason but we had a great weekend lexington uh pretty cool pretty cool place i don't

know i didn't i had no expectations i'd never really been there before so um it was fun definitely gonna go back next year maybe hit the links you know go to go to the horse racing track yeah if you have any good uh you you were like a big horse betting guys back in the day right well yeah they took arlington height or arlington park away from us uh just just just absolutely brutal to flirt with putting a barrier stadium there. Maybe they do still. I think they're going to. Yeah. I don't know. It doesn't even make it up to me because I don't necessarily care about that. Actually probably just makes traffic more congested in the area where I am. But, man, Arlington Park on a Saturday was just a really good time. Just a really,

really good time. You probably had, you know, nine and ten races at the track. And then obviously you have all the OTB stuff going on. It's a beautiful facility. My wife would take my son. I'd always meet up with a friend or two So like we could full on like D-Gen And then like you know Still felt like a decent family man on a Saturday So yeah absolutely missed the ponies And you know

You know, I taught myself how to read the book And got a feel for what I was doing It didn't feel like I was completely flying blind But yeah absolutely miss that But yeah definitely would want to check out that If you were down there I'm gonna go back It's not that far from us what five six hours

Not that far Yeah it was like six hours max It would have been a lot shorter If my wife didn't have to stop every 30 minutes but you know it's part of the part of the journey here yeah it's called keelan that's what it's called their track there so i'll definitely take you up on that um would love to i mean what a what a day you know just gamble on ponies all day oh this is the absolute best it's the best miss it so um all right everyone wants to talk carnivore dire to ponies in some of the comments

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All right, buddy. Let's jump any big takeaways from week nine before we jump through some of the games. I want to talk futures a little bit today too. Yeah, I guess biggest takeaway would be, I think the Ravens are going to be a dominant team going forward. You know, we touched on the Mayo Show a little bit, but this team is very much back, power-ranking them. firmly, I think, in the top three to five in the AFC,

as long as their defense gets healthier. And you can make an argument for number three there. And then the NFC just continues to be wildly volatile. I have a really tough time parsing through them. Yeah, Minnesota, Cleveland Jets, Bengals. I mean, nothing about winnable games on the docket here for the Ravens. It's kind of expected, right? The market never really dipped all the way that we would have won.

wanted it to take advantage, you know, in the face of, you know, being, you know, one in five or whatnot, you know, the market really never gave us that huge buying opportunity that we thought was there on the Ravens. They just never got away. Part of it was that Steelers. But that's a good transition, I guess, the Steelers, a decent showing there, too. I don't know if it's a big takeaway for you, but anything else that you want to share and then we can kind of knock through some of the games.

It felt like the Steelers always had a little like two or three games where they just like beat a team that they probably shouldn't and this seemed like one of those games it was like they got a ton of pressure on daniel jones he crumbled they forced a ton of turnovers off the edge uh i don't know if it was like a game planning problem on it was a daniel jones problem too that's obviously a mismatch uh there but like i love the match was good steeler secondary as hadn't been playing all that well um run defensive has been playing fine which i guess was another aspect too jonathan taylor never really got going on the ground so uh it worked out for the Steelers the game ended up being a one score game in total like at the end but it was not

not really that close the entire time i mean that was just like a yeah like i mean it was like a multi-score game for basically the entire game yeah kind of control the whole way um it turned him over a bunch and yeah defense played well we'll bust do that uh we'll start with the craziest game of the week maybe one of the crazier games of the season so far with the bears uh winning 47 42 in cincinnati basically went up almost, well, 41, 27, you get a what looked like a pick six from Tremaine Edmonds and looks like it's just iced the game. That gets called back. Things get wonky real quick.

Flacco does his thing, scores. They go for two on side. All of a sudden, we look like the bears have a disastrous loss on Chokin away. But again, Bengals' defense could not get out of its own way. Caleb Williams, Colston Loveland, how he breaks that for. 58 yard TD with no time left was kind of insane but much needed to buy for the bangles try to get some stuff straightened out defensively I still don't know what to make of the bears I don't think either of us think that they're a good football team at least for bears fans

they're a fun entertaining football team to watch I guess uh I need takeaways from this crazy one yeah I think one of the craziest things in general for um like for the bears and Caleb Williams. The Bears right now lead the league in explosive pass rate. It's like 14%. I saw that today. And Caleb Williams is one of the worst completion percentages over expectation in the league. I'm trying to figure out what it is now after this week. It's probably a little bit better considering he. But maybe the expectation was so high because, I mean, this is like the Bengals really leaving guys wide open. He was making a lot of easy throws here and there. But it's, it wasn't, yeah, I mean, negative 3.4% negative completion percentage over

expectation, not good. So, like, those two stats, I think, almost perfectly describe the Caleb William's experience on a play-to-play basis. It's like the throw to Colson Loveland. I've watched it, like, five times today. It's crazy. He fits it in between four guys. Like, literally, he's boxed in, just absolutely rips it.

It's actually not even a perfect throw, but it's perfect enough to get it in between all the guys and just insane, insane throw there. And the Colston Lovel obviously bounces off just some terrible tackling from the Bengals. But my takeaway is the bears are going to continue to be volatile. they can they're going to beat up and score a ton of points on bad decent to bad defenses and they're going to probably really struggle against good defenses like we've already seen they still have some winnable games i mean you know speaking of bad defenses they get the giants here on deck in week 10 they are a three and a half four point favorites

basically three and a half at home which a lot of giants love in that line i feel like bangles again on the buy any thoughts on giants Bears there in week 10. I think part of the problem, too, is that the Giants had like two, one and a half good weeks of like playing run defense. And since then, I've been just like, again, really, really, really bad. And so, I mean, the Bears running games looked awesome out of the by. Like, they've done nothing but be good.

And now Kyle Munungai was like seeking out contact, like going, like getting the extra yards, which is awesome to see because like DeAndre Swift is just, I mean, so soft. And he just like runs out of balance. You didn't even play. You couldn't waste an opportunity to dunk on. I mean, he sucks, dude. He is one of the worst running back. Like, he needs to be just like a, I don't know, like a pass catching plus back.

Like, he should be getting like 10 or fewer touches a game. Throw him three balls, like out in space. He'll make a couple of good plays. But on a down-in-up basis, he misses holes all the time. He's just like, you know, I don't know. The anti-David Montgomery, I hate him. I think he's just like an awful player. I'd cut him tomorrow if I could.

Bring in someone else. Travis Homer. Yeah. Okay. See, like that's the problem. It's like the difference between DeAndre Swift and Travis Homer is probably kind of a lot. But I think they should beat the Giants on the ground pretty easily. And then through the air, it's just a matter of like, can their defense force Jackson

start to do anything stupid because they, what, they lead the league in turnovers, I believe, or they did come into the week. Yeah, they've been very opportunistic defensively for sure. Yeah. Seems like a good matchup. I kind of like the Bears there. I do too. Not a lot of Bears layups left on the schedule.

I kind of actually, I mean, they play Cleveland, week 15. They could very much lose that game in Cleveland. Who knows? I mean, one of that, Strador, who knows? But again, just this is really the only other one. It looks at the last time they'll be favorite. Maybe they're favorite against Pittsburgh, but close. Yeah, you got to win this game against the Giants.

If you are going to put yourself squarely in the mix in the NFC playoff pitcher, which is going to be a challenge. So, like glass half full, though, like the Vikings have played one good game of defense in the last, like, six. Yep. You know, they should have beat them in week one. So that's still very much to play. Steelers, like, could probably lose or beat anyone, it seems like at this point. I mean, you have no idea what you're going to get here.

Although Rogers against the Bears, hypothetically, in my mind, probably is, like, going to just shred them because he's going to just know how to pick them apart. I don't know. I, like, there are, then there are some tough games. round like i think they could still win three or four games finish maybe i don't know eight nine nine and eight i think that's like very much possible yeah i think so too i don't know that's enough but um it might not be like yeah but that's that should be a win like that's a win like that's a win of a season for them i agree yeah totally yeah uh i don't know what the bengals do coming out of the buy um looks like there was some benching some stuff that was going on in terms of

going through today and looking at snap rates and different stuff like problem is you deem these guys starter worthy, right? And you're not going to be a buyer at the trade deadline, right? Trade deadline here in the next 48 hours or so. That's not going to be a great spot for the Bengals. So continue to probably be an over team. But yeah, they get the week off. As you're touching on, the other important matchup here in the division, Minnesota on the road,

9.5, 10 point favorites goes into Detroit and wins 2724. Great, great showing from Flores and company. who've kind of been a little bit disappointing this season. I think having Andrew Van Ginkle back mattered. He allows them to do a lot of different things. They seem to be a lot more creative with the type of pressure that they brought. They did a great job limiting Jemir Gibbs, David Montgomery on the ground. And it was enough from J.J. McCarthy and company, who also were pressured a ton in that game.

So, like, I think you watched that back. Like, JJ had no time either. Didn't play well, wasn't accurate, but created enough with his legs, extended to plays. they just tried, I think, to scheme him out of the pocket and get some stuff going. But a big one, nonetheless, 27-24. Yeah, it's funny because you say he said he didn't play well. And if you go on Vikings Twitter, like he played like MVP candidate. Sure.

Statute. Like, which, I mean, I thought he played fairly well, especially in the first like quarter slash half. And then, yeah, you got a ton of pressure. Five sacks is obviously a ton. Some of those were kind of like, I don't know, bullshit sacks. It was like him like kind of like, kind of like flush in the pocket and like, you know, whatever, but he was under a lot of heat regardless. Yeah, Detroit, Detroit led the league and pressure rate last week.

I think they had like 52% pressure rate. So they were, they were in the backfield lot. I was personally very bummed that as 10 point under 10 point favorites, the line is just completely choked. Because once again, I think this might be, I might have had 10 past attempt props and like almost all of them feature like game script one way or another projected. And like, I've just gotten completely hosed on like four of them now where it's like,

oh 10 point favorite actually just loses by 10 points and they don't have to pass the ball at all because like the Vikings can do whatever they want now you know they ran the ball 29 times and only attempted 25 passes I think judge McCarthy attempted one pass in the fourth quarter so like I was like you gotta be kidding me so that sucked um but overall like I don't know the lions looked a little bit more mortal I thought that was an interesting takeaway Jemir Gibbs couldn't get anything going on the ground surprisingly um and Jameson Williams kind of got going a little bit. I mean, but I think there was more game script tool than it. Yeah, it was also garbage time. Like last drive, I think he had, going into the last drive, he had like 20 yards. I think he had like a nice big chunk play. Yeah.

You know, in that last possession and scored that touchdown. And that was it. I mean, yeah, I think it was a well-coached game. I think the, I don't know why we can't have any normal conversations about J.J. McCarthy for some reason. Like, it's either he's soft benching or he's so good we have to put him in the Hall of Fame and, you know, straw man arguments for screw all you for doubting J.J. McCarthy and it's like, can we just, can we just live in the

middle for a little bit here? Can we just see a few more games and a few more snaps? He was inaccurate. He admitted it himself. Completed percentage of recommendation was below average. He made some good plays. He didn't run, you know, get a ton of yards with his legs, but created some stuff with his legs. Let's just calm down a little bit there. But, you know, a big win for them, keeps them very much in. off pitcher again another team that has pretty daunting schedule ahead of them the lions are on the road and they get the commanders to make up for you know last year's playoff disappointment and obviously

you're getting a very different commanders team and then Minnesota hosts the Ravens tough spot there any thoughts on either of those games Minnesota Ravens that is super interesting one I mean, just, like, it depends on what defense we get from, I mean, both sides. Like, the Ravens were like literally the worst, stone gold, worst defense because they were all injured. Now you get some guys coming back, get Kyle Hamilton playing more of like a, I mean, I feel like Derwin James role feels disrespectful, but I don't know. That's kind of like how I'm describing it. It is.

It's definitely like Derwin James has been playing this year for sure all over. Every work, that's very deep, which is where you want your really good safety, I think. And that's, that's helped. So, I mean, that's, that's kind of cool. but then, I mean, same with the Vikings. Like, they were bottom five in most metrics, like a lot of metrics heading into the week. And then they just play crazy well.

Maybe that would do with all the lines, offensive line issues. But I think it was a lot of, like, blitzing. And it just felt like there was like a free rusher almost like all the time. Yeah. There was a ton of that on both sides. So, yeah, well-schemed game defensively for both teams. And, yeah, interesting and important matchups for both of them,

you know, is we getting into, week 10 there um another pretty big upset uh this one even bigger in terms of where the odds were beforehand carolina 16 green bay 13 uh just a weird game it's not like the panthers did a lot here uh they limited green bay in the red zone uh i think they were like i don't know they won for five in the red zone multiple touch i mean our turnovers in the red zone as well uh just Couldn't stop, Rico Dowell. Here we are, week 10. I mean, the Packers have now beaten the lions, like handily,

beat the commanders with Jane Daniels, and have lost to the Panthers and Browns and tied the Cowboys. What do we do with that? What do we do? They played at the level of their competition, I guess. It would be the only lazy way for me to make. Like, they barely beat the Cardinals. They beat the Bengals, but it was a little bit closer.

Steelers, they beat, I mean, fairly handled. And then, yeah, I mean, like, it's eagles coming up. But then you have, you know, you have Giants, Vikings who, again, like are very volatile. So they got a lot of games that are, the season can look a lot different in a couple of weeks, I think, either way, you know. You rattle off three or four more wins. And they're, again, back to the fellow ball and NFC, which are already rated as such and, you know, whatever, like odds. But they could lose two of these Eagles and Vikings and at Lions could easily be. be three losses there in the next four which would not make me happy but it's possible in my

opinion Tucker craft injury obviously pretty substantial for them and again like said it before they just don't they just don't have enough singles just feels like they rely so much on the deep ball and they are one of the best like in terms of how their past catchers win how Jordan love wins they're designed to take those shots Tucker craft was a guy that like you could win in the intermediate and then he would have like big play yak but without him it's a little bit different especially if like i don't know if josh jacob's healthy all the way like he's a really really important piece i don't think he is either so i'm not quite sure what to make it at so yeah nothing would surprise me with packers games they're a really tough team i think

the bat side in total right now two and a half point favorites at home against the eagles here coming off of a buy uh and we tend to be interested to see how these teams approach the deadline Obviously, the Eagles have been active. The Jane and Phillips trade was a really good one to boast of their pass rush, adding some help in the secondary to keep all the important pieces where they belong. I think matters a ton there. Yeah, I don't know what to make it. Then again, I don't want to take all the bloom away from the Panthers.

Again, they are somehow five and four. I don't think that we think that they're a very good football team. I don't know that that matters. They continue to win football games. uh any thoughts or any takeaways on uh week 10 game or anything you want to talk about there i mean the panthers are sizable favorites against the saints here in week 10 yeah and they have a lot of games upcoming that are very strange like well i mean saints is like a very winnable favorites five and a point favorites spending on the book uh at the falcons do they already be 30 to

zero and again that we consider to be a fluke but the falcons also dropped another random game recently as well uh not to the the patriot before that uh and then you know at the 49ers. 49ers are just like super, super beat up. Like, they're not getting a full health 49ers team here. They get the Saints again later in the year. And then Bucks twice, who are all another team that's like their entire team is basically injured.

So, I mean, it sounds crazy, but like, are the Panthers going to be like nine and eight and find a way to squeak in here or what? Like, is this like, I mean, is that crazy? I think they got to win the division. Yeah. yeah that's the thing right so we you know if you think it's probably just the eagles in the east we can walk through some of this too we know that the north is loaded right with all four of those teams kind of combined right now record wise they're in similar spots the bro you get the multiple teams in the west right you have rams niners and sea hawks you basically have the path for only the south division winner to make the playoffs i would think so again those all of a sudden having both those games against tampa bay you know week 16 and weeks 18 those are really important games all of a sudden for I mean they're one

game back from the bucks like who have a tough difficult week 10 game yeah and they play twice so like they're both six and six six and three I guess whatever whatever that would be after this I mean

the buys are messing me up here a little bit but they can be like a half a game apart I think technically after next week potentially and with two games against them which is crazy i don't know shout to eric eager i guess any any success i have i'm giving credit to him any failures i have i'm blaming on uh david tepper so it's my public easy game eight to one on draft kings to win the nfc south right now i mean i see the problems

i just think they suck i know bryce young is trash wasn't good didn't play well like they keep winning games and he keeps playing so bad yeah I don't know if the defense is very good it's you know it's just a bet I'm never I'm never making um but draft king seems to be unless this is laggy you know off market pretty substantially um you know they're their bucks numbers unbedable and uh they're also non-believers in the panthers so yeah

interesting all right we'll see not we're not buying the I'm sorry. Yeah, I can't do it. Like, I think hypothetically, if you, if there was like any sign of life here other than Rico Dowdle just like kind of being good, I'd be into it. I guess their defense's played okay, right?

Like sometimes. Yeah, no one. Maybe. No. Yeah, not so much. Yeah, right. Like, I mean. And turnovers, you know, turnover's in the red zone.

That helps masks some of the issues that they have there. But yeah, I'll turn the page. Denver wins on the road, 18 to 15. Houston, awful aesthetic football game, bad quarterback play, even worse quarterback play because we got a bunch of Davis Mills in this game. Bo Nix looks to be a problem if you're holding on any future Broncos stuff. The issue is the Broncos defense is fantastic. And they're seven and two and ten point home favorites on Thursday night.

So I should be cooking to 8 and 2, which is pretty interesting. I worry about what's going on in a quarterback here in terms of moving forward. It's a team that we both were pretty bullish on coming into the season. Again, they're not necessarily, again, they're going to be 8 and 2 after 10 games. Like, we'll probably feel like that was the best case scenario. But I'm not sure what to take away from the Texans, 3 and 5. Slight home favorites here against Jacksonville in Week 10. You should get CJ Straub back, but we never know.

when these concussion stuff is 50-50 definitely balance the skull off the carpet. They're pretty hard. Any takeaway is 1815 Broncos win. I see, like, I don't, I think this is game went exactly how I expected. Like, it could have been 1815 either way. Both defenses are awesome. Neither team's offense slash quarterback plays good enough to overcome a really good defense. Like, it was just pure confirmation bias across the board.

I don't love either team. The fact that the Broncos are 702 and the Texas are three and five, just I don't know. result of some injury luck some i think coaching some you know just luck in general uh yeah i don't think this broncos team i mean their defense is still awesome they need to shertan back for a playoff run they need they just need the office like get going and do something like it's like it's just not good right now which is which is a major problem you take out like the giants fourth quarter comeback stuff like a lot of the metrics over the last like a month or so are pretty atrocious so they actually really are similar teams it's basically like the same team except

one team has Sean Payton and the team has Nick Cayley Colin plays and I think that's a pretty substantial difference and yeah here we are three and five again not necessarily believers in the Texans so I'm not buying them come back and again we don't know what to make without their quarterback here but again this is another situation where I find fascinating because you know when we started doing this seven eight years ago this game would be off the board but it is lined with Houston

you know one to one and a half point favorites here not knowing the quarterback situation against Jacksonville who needed, you know, five quarters to beat the Raiders coming off a buy. It's not great. Any thoughts on Jacksonville, Houston, or, you know, the Raiders getting 10 points against Denver here on Thursday? I know Mayo really likes Denver. It's probably the right side. I kind of think the Bull Brock Bowers thing matters a lot, especially with like, I mean, I think it's like an out for against Denver potentially. I think if I remember correctly, only basically spot they're giving it up to right now. Dalton,

Dalton Schultz had an amazing game somehow. You know, it sucks. Zanez under as well. You know, just crawling back to an even week here, basically. But, yeah, I mean, I think he makes, like a full, healthy Bowers entirely, in my opinion, changes,

like the complexion of the Raiders offense in general. And then, yeah, I don't know. Like, I mean, the Broncos just, like, not playing all the well against the Raiders. wouldn't surprise me that much either, like offense against their defense. So I don't know. Maybe I'm too into like, you know, selling on the Broncos here, but the, I don't know, I think maybe the Raiders have a little more life than what the 10 points spreads give them credit for. And I think the market's kind of agreed with my original sentiment because we have moved

a little bit. Like it's pretty much, there are eight and a half. Like, circa is they just eight. Okay. Mine is 110, right? So we've some buyback on the tens that were there earlier here on Monday, a lot of domestics, draft kings, Fanduil, nine and a half. So there's been some people taking, you know, basically double digits in the division pretty, you know, blindly, which is I guess really the only case I think you can make four backing the Raiders.

It's just too many points in the division on a short week. But I'm not super excited to click that either, per se. And again, it's Jacksonville versus Houston, two teams I want to continue to short. So when they're going head to head, I'm just going to sit out and let that one happen again. A reminder, we don't have to bet on all the games. It's probably some Jagsunders. That's probably my look.

It's probably the right look. Fade some props. Yeah. No, good call. Yeah, 37.5 point total there. Not great. All right, next 2423, knowing the Patriot victory against the Atlanta Falcons.

Drake London was awesome in this game. I'm not sure how much of this game you watch. If you watch the highlights. Yeah. It was crazy. Just absolutely mossing dudes all over the fields. This is what the Falcons offense should look like when Darnell Mooney is active. Like why I've been like absolutely dumbfounded by how Mooney's presence has impacted Drake London's target share.

Throw Drake London the ball, even against the Christian Gonzalez's of the world, throwing the ball in the red zone. They fed him. He was awesome. But it wasn't enough. defense wasn't really good, but they made a couple of opportunistic plays and kept them in the game. Kind of the worst game that Drake May has played

in the last couple months, but still really good and still good enough to win here. Any thoughts on Pats and Falcons? I mean, the final score, obviously ended up being really close. The missed extra point ended up kind of saving the Pats here a little bit not saving, but like, you know, avoiding a tie game there. But the Pats were, I would say, pretty thoroughly.

dominating for three quarters of this game like it was they looked like the better team they're playing the better team um and then yeah like drake london pennix kind of came alive here later in the game and yeah it made some sick edges that one-handed touchdown grab was just nuts um yeah just stuck like literally just stuck his hand up it wasn't like quite obj level but it was i mean adjacent for sure and i thought that was that's pretty interesting but the right now we're looking at drake may leading the league and completion percentage over expectation even with this game 12.3% With one of, if not the highest,

average of the targets in the league. Yep. Yeah, I don't have that pulled up right now, but I believe it. I mean, it's, and EPA is crushing, like 75% completion rate overall, nine yards per attempt,

15 touchdowns, three interceptions, like falling out with a bunch of gibronies catching the ball. Give this man some help, you know? Give him someone else, other than, like, you know, late career, Stefan Diggs, who plays well, he's been, he's been fine. I mean, he's been kind of about... Nice touchdown.

Nice touchdown. It was all, it was a lot of Diggs on that touchdown. He made some moves to get in. But yeah, I agree. I mean, it's a still bottom third pass catching court. Yeah, like, yeah, exactly. I mean, DeMario Douglas, Stefan Diggs and Kisham Booty, who got hurt, right? Is he what...

Yeah, he did. You got a hammy. Christian Gonzalez, Christian Ellis, Kishon Bouty, all. went down. So really the Gonzalez one's really impactful. Booty's been so good. They really should kind of need him. So, yeah, need to see what happens coming out of, you know,

we get through to Wednesday. We get that first injury report. We need to see what's going on with the paths for sure. Yeah, no, it's, but overall, good team. Like, where, okay, I was actually talking to, talking to Rahul, a couple other people about this. Where would you power rank the paths right now? because someone had them third overall.

It was like in the entire, not just AFC, like entire league, someone, I don't know, one of like the big media people had him like third overall, something like that. I had him closer to like,

I don't know, six to eight range, but I'm curious where you lie. I think there's no way that you're doing a power ranking and putting them third. I think you're just over, you're overinflating the win loss record. Yes.

Like they, I think that they're probably fourth or fifth in the conference As we kind of did some of that exercise this morning with Pat I'm with you I still think the chiefs is the best team in the conference I think even though the Ravens record is not what you would expect it to be I still think it's the Ravens and the bills are right there too You know then it's the Patriots and the Colts So I think that's like a clear five in the AMC

I think they're all kind of a little bit ahead of maybe where the charges are and the Broncos are, even though the records are a little bit better. Quarterback play is so impactful. So, you know, yeah, the paths are seven and two. The Broncos are seven and two. But like what Drake May is doing versus what a Bo Nix is doing looks very, very different to me. And I still just have issues with the Colts defense, like in terms of them being an actual true Super Bowl contender. I can be proven wrong.

I think that they're a good football team. I think they can win a playoff game. Maybe two. I just don't think that they're. better than some of those other teams. So hard to put, you know, the Pats into the top three of an actual power ranking without being biased and without just really anchoring to a win-loss record.

Yeah, and they're, I mean, they're good, too, and they're going to win a bunch more games. You've got, like, some segments up here that are wild. Jets, bangles, giants, and then you have Bill's Ravens, really tough, obviously, but then you have Jets and Dolphins to end this season. So, like, I mean, you got five games against some of the worst teams in the league. so that feels pretty good it feels like the paths right now are what are there to make the playoff odds got to be like minus crazy eye right like it's yeah i remember a few weeks ago it flipped

and i wanted to they were like plus money and then the next week when they beat the bills they became minus 200 so yeah we're gonna oh yeah look at minus 1,200 minus 1250 fandul yeah um there's 7 and 2 and they have i don't know four to five wins left for sure on the schedule assuming Drake may is healthy like at least for like so yeah they're they're they're they're

that Bill's game that's still in the docket is in Foxborough and they already beat them right so like they have a leg up in terms of winning the division right they could be a two seed that's that's fascinating better than the expectations I had coming in and my expectations were not decently high

but I thought I'm a Drake may believer and we're here so I do think that there it's a combination of things like i want to be realistic about the schedule but also do think they're a good football team they've been playing good football so not not stunned that we're here um they have a big one they are on the road against Tampa bay Tampa off a buy two and a half point favorites here uh where the Falcons are uh believe this is in Germany they are in Germany against the Colts here in week 10 any thoughts on Falcons Colts in Germany or Pat's Bulls

bucks oh man it's um i mean i i want to keep tail in the paths here so i would say pat's pat's bucks what are we looking at spreadwise here what are you two and a half bucks are a favorite i'm gonna just bet the pats i mean pats money line maybe yeah like i don't know i get it i mean the bucks are good baker mayfield continues to just be better and better but yep um i don't know I'm interested. I mean, I think it's, yeah, two and a half, even on the road. It's not bad here. You think we need a three?

Not looking like it, really. It's like we're at minus one. Yeah, no, not. Probably not. Probably two and a half. I'm sure we'd get a lot of resistance to three. We could get a three if we get a bad injury report for New England. That'd be it.

But then, again, the bad injury report for New England without Christian Gonzalez makes them a lot less appealing. But, you know, we'll wait and see. I'm with you. I think it's a spot where we know what the box are going to do defensively. This is also not surprised you. Best quarterback so far on the league against the Blitz, Drake May. So what the Falcons did, Falcons Blitzed a ton on Sunday, got home a couple of times.

Stripzac was really impactful, but still overall a reliance on Drake May. And Drake May overs are very much first thing on my list for the week. Team skew massively pass-happy against the Bucks anyway. Pat's got the ground game going a little bit, but, you know, Bucks are tough to run. against this will come down to how drake may does so um that'll be probably on the card for the week yeah and the real quick on the falcons too like um i think that they i'm kind of sorry i feel i'm getting a better grasp with them as like a team of like if they can run the ball they're probably just going to be functioning way way way better they could not run the ball against

the paths they fell in an early hole we saw that happen against you know whatever two weeks ago with kirk cousins they couldn't run the ball now obviously kirk cousins coming back is a lot than Michael Pennex, but still that was top. And then against the Panthers a couple weeks prior, the week before, it was 30 to zero or whatever. It's like they can't run the ball. They're just a shitty team, to be honest. And their defense hasn't been playing as well as they were early in the season.

So I don't know. I think that, but I think they can run the ball against the Colts. That's the thing is I think the Colts run divas has not played that well. So I don't know. Maybe an interesting buying opportunity here on the Falcons or buying on the Colts because the Colts just came off a loss of the Steelers. I don't know. Yeah.

I don't want to out your play because you haven't made it yet, and I don't want to blow up the market ahead of time. But no one's running on the Patriots. No one's running on the Patriots right now. Oh, my God. I mean, if we get no Bucky Irving here, I mean, this is just like, I don't care what the number is 40 and a half. Rashad White's running for 10 yards.

I mean, this is, guys, so bad. The Pat's run events. I mean, I think I've just been betting again, betting on them every week, and they keep cashing. Yeah, take on some good running backs. and I mean still getting it done so yeah Rashad White under I feel pretty good It'll be on Connor's card this week so

Yeah latency All right Niners going to New York 34 to 24 and win I'm Niners just every week Lose a starter Sometimes two

So we'll eventually catch up to them I don't know Hasn't yet it probably does next week when they hosted Rams. Matt Jones cooked early. Ball didn't touch the ground. McCaffrey had his best game, one of his best games on the ground.

He's really struggled from like a efficiency standpoint this year, but he got it going. It's kind of what the Giants allow you to do. You know, even B-Rob got going in that game. Jackson Dart, I think is like, I think it's actually kind of real. I think these actually decent. Like, I mean,

just duct tape offensive line weapons running like it still keeps them somewhat competitive keeps them in drives plays hard at least makes them somewhat entertaining to watch the defense remains a question mark there in New York but any takeaways from this one

it's a second game too where Sladen dropped a long touchdown here this week he got like oh whatever OPI the week prior and Staten did the worst thing that you can do to is he totally dropped it and then stayed down like he was injured like all you did was bruiser ego just get up like you laid there and it's like oh man you just dropped I uh on the other side too I was I was thinking about like the Kyle Shanahan comp he reminds me like his player usage is like Thibito and like NBA like just no management no I mean 33 touches for Christian

McCaffrey what are you doing these guys would be dead and like like two weeks like he's he's so many touches um they're just jamming him here because they have nothing else but just load management it's not a strength of Kyle Shanan because you have a perfectly fine Brian Robinson who was doing well played well this game yep I mean 10 yards per carry five or 53 in a touchdown long as 18 yard run he had multiple good runs is certainly capable of taking on probably I don't even know an extra six to 10 of those carries that you gave to Christian McCaffrey, like if McAfrey had 18 carries to Brian Robinson's like 13 or 14, I think that would have been just fine.

But it doesn't matter. It's another five catches, very much involved in the passing game. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I think that's kind of crazy. Juan Jennings felt like was kind of back in a bigger role now. Like I think he's going to progressively, we had five broken ribs or a couple broken ribs.

So like, is that kind of feels better? He's going to probably continue to be more of one of their top guys here. And then I think Ricky Pierce, I'll come back soon. So I don't know, maybe it'll trend it up a little bit. Like you get some of those guys back. Maybe they're just like a fun overs team because I don't think their defense is still all that good. First round pick, McHale Williams goes down. He's out for the year.

Brutal. They have just no pass rush to speak of. And I mean, every quarterback is, pretty much susceptible to pressure, but the pretty sizable splits over the last couple of years from Matthew Stafford with and without pressure. That's who the Niners play here in Week 10.

Stafford without pressure? Fucking cooking. Just absolutely dicing teams up. And if the Niners can't get pressure here, it's tough sledding here for the Rams. Niners, again, those games are always wonky. They're always close and they're always, you know, competitive. But I like the Rams.

Three and three and a half. Yeah, there's like a three on Bovado looks like Builder, maybe. And then three and a half face everywhere else. Yeah, like the Rams in that game for sure. Their ability to get a ton of pressure, we don't know who's going to be a quarterback for the Niners, but the Niners' offensive line has been struggling. At some point, they've got to pay the Piper for some of these injuries

that have been collecting. They just haven't been playing good football teams. you start to get into the stretch and it's kind of I think you said it maybe in i don't know august or whatever like the nineers is going to be a team that made the playoffs they probably win 10 11 games and they just have no real shot to actually beat a team in the playoffs or like really make a playoff run and it's worse than we thought because of the attrition that's mounted up as a season's going along like it's they were so top heavy talent wise especially defensively and now they've just just every week someone goes

down it's i mean like they have the rams this movie then it's like cardinals Panthers, Browns, Titans, and then, like, I mean, that alone is probably three to four or four wins, unless one of those teams is like a 90th percentile game. And then you have Colts, Bear, Seahawks, which they're probably going to lose two of those three. But that's enough to make the playoffs because they already got six wins. So that's 10 to 11-ish wins. Yeah, definitely a good Overse team.

Like you said, we, again, they've six and three. They did it without Jennings. There's still no Pearsall. They didn't have George Kittle for a long time. Like, they just start to get some of these guys. to come back iuk the window opens up for iuk and maybe he comes back like who knows they could be tough in the prop market they probably keep winning football team games against some of these bad football teams so all right we've danced a little bit around pittsburgh and uh indy pittsburgh wins 27

to 20 just interesting coming into this game as steelers defense has been a i think a disappointment would be easiest way to summarize what's gone on and then they came into this game with cluster injuries, particularly at safety. Like they lost Deshawn Elliott for the season. They benched Juan Thornhill. Chuck Clark was out for this game. They literally took Jalen Ramsey out of slot corner, put him in free safety, grabbed Kyle Dugger off the scrap heap for New England, put him into a full 97% of snaps.

And they shut down the best offensive league. Colts couldn't get anything going. There wasn't anything really sparkling on the Steelers offensively. but my dude Peyton Wilson was a baller they got it done I mean Pete Wilson was sick in this game but I mean an awesome T.J. Watt strip sack just highlighting T.J. Watt who just gets double teams and an insane rate and still finds ways to like beat double teams and literally just take the ball out of the quarterback's hands. It's just badass play. But a big win for the Steelers. Yeah, I mean when you force six turnovers, that'll do. I mean,

pretty crazy, you know, total ratio here. But if you look at some of the other metrics here, like 3.7 yards per play for the Steelers, five for the Colts, you know, like third down efficiency. Steelers were just four for 12. Like, I mean, I think they just kind of had an outlier game. Like when you force turnover, he gets some short fields, you're getting pressure on him and then the Colts can't run the ball. Like, it's not a super sustainable thing.

I think it's kind of a fluke here. I would, you know, if you gave me this. game again i would probably and you gave me a little bit of a discount on the colts i'd probably take the colts but um yeah i i don't know if i learned much again the steelers just like a weird scrappy team that i think is really volatile totally the josh downs punt fumble yeah first quarter totally kind of flip things there too like that was just weird game like you said it's not i don't think there's any like lessons to be learned it was just steelers finally had top 10 percent i'll come defensively turnovers and again

You should win by a lot more than that if you win the turnover margin. And it's kind of how the Steelers beat the Patriots, right? Early in the season, just a ton of turnovers. And the game was still really close. So, you know, Steelers, not necessarily, like, trying to shove it to us who are, you know, doubting them. Just kind of still playing with their food and good enough to win, but not a great game. It makes you feel good about them moving forward. Let's see, where are the Steelers?

They are on the road against the Chargers. On Sunday night, the Chargers are three, juicy two and a half, or three, the 44.5, 45 point total, which is interesting, given how they played and given the offensive line struggles for the Chargers. And again, we mentioned earlier, the Colts are hosting the Falcons in Berlin. Any thoughts here on the Sunday night football game, Pittsburgh, and Chargers? The Chargers didn't want of their offensive while. we get injured again, or maybe I'm missing it. Yeah, we're getting to them. They lost two.

They lost Joel Alt again in this game. They also lost Bobby Hart with a groin injury. I mean, it's, that's not great. Like, you know, again, the Steelers got a ton of pressure on the Colts. So, I mean, we've seen it before. The Chargers kind of resort to this, like, quick game of just, like, getting the ball out ASAP instead of any, like, longer ADOT stuff. So maybe there's something there in the prop market, like a Herbert attempts.

completions or something like that is interesting but yeah it's i mean makes things tough heading to this matchup otherwise i would be interested in the chargers yeah they skew massively pass heavy again we got now when they win 2720 in tennessee uh early pick six kind of flipped this game and um you made again them throw even more than i think we were expecting coming to this game and the titans suck the titans are so bad um they're so bad they're so bad their worst team in the league for sure uh again they played a schedule score looks closer than the actual game was if you watch the rest of that game but uh any titan's thoughts and expanded thoughts specifically on this game 27 20 yeah they were up what 14 zero i think right it was

like 14 zero at one point um because of the pick six and because of everything and so that kind just put them in a weird game scripts uh they still were just so bad that they couldn't do anything with it couldn't capitalize couldn't add anything i mean could have very easily i mean maybe not been like a full panthers falcons game but like to that somewhere in that ballpark could have made sense if they scored another touchdown or so um early but they didn't then they just blew the lead and continue to look just i mean borderline lifeless um titans texans is that we're at next week titans or maybe they got a buy no they got a time's got a buy okay then they got texans and Seahawks out of the by,

Jags out of the by, is no cakewalk. Then Browns, oh my God. I mean, that is just like a... Some good defenses in there. That really tough. I mean, even just Texan Seahawks, Browns are like three of the best defenses in the league. Yeah, it's tough.

On Cam Ward, 12 of 21 for 146 yards. Again, his past catching core is also substandard. The offensive line play has not been good. Defense is bad. had some injuries again they're playing without Jeffrey Simmons you know see what they look like coming out of the buy I mean maybe wise to spread around any of the viable starters that they have like just sell and get out of this it's it's it's gross so you think they're good fire their coach or uh sorry again again like did you think it before a guy that already

fired him bring him back and fire him again like I don't know why I said that I'm a I meant like when do we think they're going to like like how bad is how bad it's going to be like bringing someone new fire him again like what are they doing here like what's the path forward yeah there is no path for you imagine getting like firing your your assistant would be like bad I don't even know what do what do you do like you're just wasting this rookie season it's awful it's awful um yeah there I don't know that there's many you just laid it out I don't know there many wins um i mean dorlands at the end of the season maybe sure maybe not probably not i would imagine they're underdogs yeah it's tough it's not bad uh it's going to be a lot on justin herbert here again he was under pressure a bunch in this game with a team that just doesn't have a lot of guys that can win one-on-one up front so that's a bad sign heading into a game against pittsburgh who has

again, a bunch of guys that are really good. They strung it together finally. I think the Steelers interior defensive lines starting to play a better ball too. That's kind of a good matchup for them there. So it's a tough spot to see if we get some chargers love here where this does the two and a half three dance here over the next 48 hours before we got an injury report.

All right, Rams 34, Saints, 10. again stafford was amazing kind of did whatever they wanted the dominated time of possession i think they were like 10 plays for for tyler shot in the saints in the second half i just did not have did not have the football um i had joan johnson prop uh 31 and a half i personally bet it at 25 and a half and 28 and a half pushed out 31 and a half on her show on friday he had 31 dropped a ball with like two minutes left wide open just just stone hands dropped it's actually why I played yards instead of receptions with him because he can like get you know plays after the catch it's catching the ball a lot is this problem uh really tough beat to lose

that one by the hook especially for everyone else that we we shared that with uh it was a bummer but again lack of play volume was also a problem here too but again it's more so story of the rams when they were healthy and Pooka's back, they're tough. They have a path to be legit, the best team in the NFC. For sure. Yeah,

like I don't have many takeaways from this game. The Rams took care of business. They dominated through the air. I mean, jammed the ball 43 times on the ground because they could and because they didn't have anything else to do, right? Like they just wanted to kind of grind clock and move the ball a couple yards at a time there.

And Saints had, yeah, basically no play volume. I mean, you said like a couple of plays, 40 plays total again, and this is crazy. Like, these types of outwire games feel like they just didn't happen that off in the last couple years. And then this year, every week there's a team that runs like 35 to 40 plays, which is nuts.

I bet Nate Landman over seven and a half tackles and assists. He had seven, which is impressive considering he was on the field for 35 plays in the game. So tough, tough beat. That's how a tackle bet's going to lose for sure. And the other team runs 40 plays. Like, yeah, it's tough. Yeah, they're, I don't know. They have a great defensive front.

They, you know, trade for Roger McCreary, I think is nice for them. They just got a bunch of dudes. And I don't know. I had Blake Korn written up. I wasn't sure how I was going to play it. Six and a half attempts in like 27 and a half rushing yards. And by the time we got to like playable, widely available lines, it was seven and a half juice to like 125 and it's like rushing yards went up to.

like 32 and a half so it was way different there was early in the week where i thought i was gonna play it didn't matter didn't matter that's that's the worst like wasn't quite as nice you're looking at you're like oh it's way more than i would have thought and it's an extra like i mean it's a lot you know it's like 15 plus percent off when you looked at it initially yeah that's that's really tough he hit so yeah and it wasn't even like garbage time they were springing those guys in actually when there was like 24 points late in the fourth it's a bunch of kairn really late so it wasn't like quorum in like cleanup duty mop up duty so that's interesting moving forward

like how that game and how that was kind of split out we'll see but yeah Rams are a wagon and I think a pretty good look against a Niners team that's going to struggle to pressure them on Sunday three and a half point favorites in San Francisco all right here

Jacksonville again needed OT need to go for two at the end to beat the Raiders 30 to 29 I just, again, don't believe in Jacksonville and I don't believe in the Texans either. So there's not a lot that I can do with the week 10 spread personally. But not a ton of takeaways other than Brock Bowers is back. Brock Bowers is really good. Any thoughts here that you have for Jags and Raiders?

If you just looked at the box score and saw 3029, you'd be like, oh, this is like an awesome, like crazy game. It was nine to six during the fourth quarter. I mean, this was not a good game for the large majority of it. Brock Bauer just got going. Trevor Lawrence kind of hit some big plays, like in the Jackson's a big plays. And then obviously you get OT here with like a touchdown each. Raiders just going for two and not getting it on the last play, which the guy was wide open, just got swatted at the line of scrimmage.

Jack's defense, I mean, their run defense is good with their past defense. I don't think he's very good. And the, like, in the Raiders, I mean, it felt like Trevor Lawrence played a little bit better than he had previously. Travis E.TN's 22 carries for 84 yards is not particularly efficient there either. But they felt like they dominated time of possession. Maybe I'd miss remembering that on this year. It was total plays. They ran 77 to the Raiders 60.

So time of possession, yeah, 42 minutes to the Raiders 26, 47. Yeah, it felt like the Jaggs just had the ball, basically the entire game. We got Gentie going in the air, which is something. Maybe they got to do that a little bit more because you seem to can't create any holes or opportunities for him on the ground. So, again, forcing a bunch of mistackles, but he's getting a lot of opportunities to make guys miss tackles because he is getting absolutely pounded in the backfield, which is tough.

Again, we kind of touched on both of these games and their teams in terms of their week 10 status here. Prime game of the week. Bills 28, 21 over Kansas City. I don't have a ton of takeaways, to be honest. Cudos to the Bill's secondary, and they played a pretty good game. They also made some interesting shifts in terms of personnel in the back end. They needed to get a ton of speed. Injecting, you know, Maxwell Harrison at Corner, I think helps them a lot.

They also put Cam Lewis at safety, who, again, Jordan Poyer came in last week for for rap who's on IR but Poir's just also a little bit older not very fast and you know Cam Lewis definitely got they'll mix it in the slot could play perimeter corner and that speed showed up you really couldn't get

you know couldn't get anything going for the Chiefs deep in that game I still think the Chiefs are class of the AFC any of the offensive line to get healthy I'm not really worried what are your thoughts Yeah, I mean just back and forth game Like Mahomes, I would say didn't have his best game

Made a couple of throws I mean, through to Hollywood Brown too much, I thought Like, I don't know, it's like, but like That guy also sucks Four targets was probably too, too many He obviously had a big one to him for 40 yards We was down at the one which they didn't end up even converting Which was, you know, kind of interesting

And then yeah, Kelsey looks, I don't know I mean, he's going to just find some more open space not that they have worthy and rice. So, like, he's going to have a couple of big plays here and there, probably less dependable on a play-to-play basis. And then, I mean, overall, like, the whole, I mean, Breshard Smith, C.E.H share or C.E.H., Kareem Hunt share, you know, rap sheet misses again.

Just total bum, you know, said that they were going to split carries. 11 carries for Kareem Hunt, three for Bich, two for C-E-H. So not really a split there. But, I mean, I think the biggest thing was that the bills, which ran all over the chiefs. And it seems like when they can, the bills are just going to run as much as they can until someone stops them.

And teams have had trouble stopping them. I don't know. Miami's going to stop them this week. They are 9 and a half, 10-point favorites in Miami. A hefty total there. Pretty hefty total there. Yeah, I think that's definitely an interesting spot. It kind of fits the design of that team, right?

We struggle with like new handicapped bills. and worry about their ceiling. It's because they have a difference maker. Can they go out and, you know, add a Chris Olave or something in, you know, the trade deadline here that would make it, you know, a pretty interesting look and could be an interesting addition. So, yeah, I'm not really worried about it. I'm kind of worried, again, more injuries.

Like, at Oliver, out, you know, I are. Michael Hook, who's been really good in two games as he came back. He lose the loss of the season with an Achilles. He's been awesome. So injuries mount up on the defensive front there. I think teams that can also run the football, which really would be the bugaboo for the Chiefs, right? Like, it's not something they do well.

They weren't going to do a lot in this game either with the injury situation that they have. Teams that can really run the football are going to be in a position to really shorten the game against the bills. And they get pretty interesting. So, yeah. Like maybe the Ravens? Like maybe the Ravens. Yeah.

It's like, I mean, we already saw it having last time when their defense is beat up. last year and the Ravens like ran all over the bills made it really tough for him uh might be shaving up for a similar situation this year yep you know we'll get there for sure uh all right the sunday-night football game not a lot to take away 3814 seahawks are a wagon fun to watch can beat you in a bunch of ways pretty easy way is just to have your quarterback throw for 282 yards and uh not incomplete you know no incompletions in the first half and the commanders are down bad Three and six, and now it looks like you've lost your quarterback probably from the season.

Yeah, I mean, the commander's season is basically over, not as much they can do there. I think that the Seahawks, yeah, continue to play awesome defense. There was like multiple plays where I think it was Sam Darnold's touchdown to, I don't know, a royal or someone over the middle where J.S.N just completely cooked his receiver or his corner and like was, I mean, Donald was going to throw it easily for him to him for a touchdown too. uh like it just felt like such a bad matchup for them um and if jason's playing well this is without cooper cup too who i don't even know if they really need all that much to be honest um like i think you know that kind of collection of other guys that they got is fine along with jason

who continues to be awesome so yeah i mean obviously in hindsight very predictable that they ended up crushing them but you know i i guess with jane danos that obviously changed the dynamic a little bit, but it was already like, I don't know, what, 31-7 when he went out, something like that. Yeah, it was already bad. And then, you know, we don't know when you get in McLaurin back. That doesn't look good. Marshawn Latimore, ACL, he's done for the year. Trey Amos, their rookie, second round quarter.

He's dinged up. I don't know, severity of that one, we'll have to wait and see. But, you know, Latimore, McLaurin, just kind of season from hell kind of situation with, not necessarily cluster injuries, but impactful injuries across the board for the commanders. They are, you know, hosting Detroit. And that's a tough spot for Detroit looking to get right and, you know, make up for what happened. And then Seattle hosts Arizona on a short week. Again, Arizona playing tonight and then having to go to Seattle on a short week.

There were some six and six and a half. Those have been gobbled up. We're basically now seven. I still think that's probably too light. Yeah, I like that. I like the see ups there. Yeah. All right.

any other two minutes any other divisional futures awards or any takeaways anything you want to share before you're up there talked about it a little bit before i think brown's money lining it to jets for next week is really interesting yeah um i don't know if it's fields probably will be fields i would assume um it's perfect he just genuinely misses like the the middle part of his range of outcomes so much it's either just like here or here uh so i think we're catching him at a at a here spot you know on the back half here. Yeah, I think Seahawks minus seven is a good look. Probably lean Rams as we talked about there.

But, yeah, I think those are some good look-heads for week nine. Yeah, I want to see what happens with the Pat's injury report. I think Pat's money line could be very interesting. Chargers made me nervous with the offensive line issues. I think the Steelers actually might be interesting there. I don't know. And I love the Rams. Three and a half I'm fine with.

laying that and that's readily available some three and a halfs minus 105s minus 108's um even you know a plus 103 on pinnacle so um happy with to take the three and half in the rams don't think we're moving to to a full three so that's okay um yeah give me give me those those are some of my favorite looks of the week there too so all right uh super bowl real quick we'll just take a look chiefs i think you've moved to our you know chiefs still well draft kings has changed up a little bit yeah um with you know buffalo now the favorite chiefs have fallen back to plus 650 rams at 750 um eagles 9 to 1 you know Detroit 950 all these teams kind of hanging out uh short of 10 any anything you want to do in that market or anything

you have an eye on i think rams can be interesting at this point uh just as like uh probably the best team in nFC now obviously that flips pretty quickly if there's a stafford problem or a Pooka problem, but for now, I mean, just I would say ride this. It'll probably continue to get higher. I think they're the best team than NFC right now. Yeah, I don't think they have a ton of holes. I really don't. Yeah, looks like you probably, based off of just where the Super Bowl numbers are,

if you wanted to do a Super Bowl matchup type stuff, the best number on the Rams is either Fandall or Caesars. So depending on, if you like the bills, Fandall will be the best place to go. if you like the Chiefs, Caesar would be the best place to go, it looks like, without actually pricing those out, just looking at where their Super Bowl markets are.

Ravens, 18 to 1 Super Bowl. Is that crazy? It's not. I mean, all you've got to do is make the playoffs. Correct. Like, they're in a spot where they either, they could win the division still, probably. But, like, their first game is going to be against

probably one of the random AFC teams that are fine and not like they're better than, you know, still. so then they're just can you beat the chiefs or bills thousand percent i mean that could be on the road in indy it could be on the road in new england right like yeah new england's actually not a bad matchup for them considering how new england can stop the run um we'll see yeah it's funny it's like the ravens are very unique run matchup you know it's like yeah they've played some good run defenses and then they just i don't know because it's because of lamar i think lamar and to Lamar you know just yeah it's a totally different dynamic for sure yeah all right appreciate

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