Move The Line - NFL Picks for Week 15
Episode Date: December 15, 2022Free NFL Picks for Week 15! Betting experts Connor Allen, Ryan Noonan & John Daigle share their top NFL bets for Week 15 of the 2022 NFL season for FREE! Join them as they divulge the best odds and li...nes so you can get the best number at your favorite sportsbook! Timestamps: 0:00 Intro7:37 Dolphins-Bills Bets15:28 Giants-Commanders Bets23:34 Lions-Jets Bets30:20 Cowboys-Jaguars Bets36:48 Bengals-Bucs Bets41:31 49ers-Seahawks Bets48:41 Final Bets57:33 OutroWant a FREE 4for4 Betting Subscription? Deposit $10 into a new BetMGM account using promo code 4FOR4 👉🏼 https://4for4.com/go/BetMGMSubscribe to 4for4's Betting Package 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/plansFollow 4for4 on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4footballFollow 4for4 Bets on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4betsFollow Move the Line on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/MoveTheLineNFLFollow Connor on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/ConnorAllenNFLFollow Ryan on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/RyNoonanFollow John on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/notJDaigleVisit our Website 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/Join our Discord 👉🏼 http://discord.gg/4for4Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3TbYo4X4for4 Betting Strategy Hub 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3hm39cw4for4 Betting Picks 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3LUp0Ea
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Hello, welcome to Move the Line, I'm Ryan Noonan, joined here, as always, by my friends
Connor Allen, John Daigle.
Connor, I'm going to start with you.
I know you've been a little bit under the weather, as you know, what we're seeing in the NFL.
Us in the fantasy space are not immune to it either.
How are we doing today?
Yeah, been better.
I had a combination of like still feeling some effects of the flu.
Pretty hungover today.
Went to my first hockey game last night, which is awesome.
Got to see Ovechkin's 800th goal.
Of course, I bet on it.
So, you know, talk about running hot there.
Hopefully just get some of that to transfer over to the football streets here pretty soon.
Retire on top is a...
I'm the best hockey tout in the game right now.
I mean, 25 to 1 and him to score a hattie, like, you know, only me.
Look at you.
Using terminology like hattie as well, you're all in.
Daigle, week 15, bud.
We're almost late at the end of the tunnel.
How are we doing?
15.
Woke up this morning, and what I was feeling starting around this time last week,
this was the first day where I actually felt normal again, thankfully.
So good to go.
Ready to talk week 15.
Saturday games begin for the next two weeks as well, so lots to get to.
My wife not thrilled to find out that there is...
No one's.
Anyone, everyone in everyone's personal life is not excited about Saturday games,
especially the next two weeks with Christmas Eve, 11 games, three games on Christmas,
and then you look ahead, New Year's Day, a full slate as well.
I haven't told her about that yet.
Let her do the math and figure that out when we get there.
And, you know, we cross small bridges at a time.
But yeah, the thing, the full slate on New Year's or on Christmas Eve is definitely something
to really in this space.
It's really hard.
Like we are grinding again. We get to talk about football.
So like, I want to really be careful about, you know, contextualizing this,
you know, complaints.
Cause we're all very, very, very lucky to get to do what we do.
Sunday, Saturday for me is like the one day that's carved out for family.
Don't really sweat or bet college football that much anymore.
We'll tail if I feel
like there's some good advice that we have, but it's not something that I'm grinding. It is really
just like once people fall asleep Saturday night, start to maybe build some DFS lineups, look at any
news, wait for the Schefter bombs, but it's really otherwise very much a family day. This definitely
shifts at this time of year and hey, it's par for the course and we get to take the good with the bad.
But again, don't feel sorry for us.
It's a good time to be there.
And again, I know folks out there want to break up the slate
and have Friday football.
We can bet on this.
We can do two game DFS slates on these days and these days.
And those folks are very, very happy this time of year.
So TJ Hernandez is the one who threw the grenade
in the room at me and said, we're doing a DFS chat Saturday morning, Christmas Eve.
And I was like, well, one, that's a problem because it's Christmas Eve, but we're still going to do it for everyone.
If you're a four for four, we're going to have our usual 30 minute conversation, Christmas Eve morning.
Not only that, but I also said, well, Silva's also hosting a party the night before.
So I'm going to sound like Connor every Sunday morning.
He sounds in his chat.
Good luck.
Oh, yeah.
I'm just I'm rolling up, just wounded, like a little little dead animal, basically, essentially.
So, yeah, that's going to be a rough chat for you.
Good luck.
You're a few years away from pulling the full silver and just leaning back in your chair on Sunday morning.
Yeah, well, it's a whole nother topic, but it should be interesting.
Connor said something something you know
early in the season was rough the set the sunday morning chats but i think he's you know he's come
in ready to go on sunday morning you know i think he you know got through wedding season um you know
and slowed down a little bit you know didn't have a million friends getting married every saturday
stacked on top of each other uh so he was able to you know maybe not come in hungover every week so
i i don't know if you have looked ahead either,
but Christmas Eve, Christmas weekend, dude, it gets to negative three in Chicago.
Like the true winter is coming faster than we are prepared for here.
Yikes.
Yeah.
Well, we hit our lives.
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this time of year, we've got a bunch of games on the slate that I think really start to matter.
Again, we have, you know, four weeks out, but a lot of them are starting to shape.
I went ahead, I got five games for us. And the last game I'm going to talk about is the Thursday
game, because I think the Thursday game is pretty interesting and matters so listeners to the podcast can um aren't going
to be bogged down by the thursday takes at the top if you want to hang around and listen you
can scroll all the way to the end you can check that out for the thursday stuff or if you're
watching live that'll come up at the end um but we'll start out again with our nightcap on saturday
we have three games uh massive playoff implications with Miami and Buffalo here.
We see where our line movement is as of now. Seven and a half is the number at most spots.
DraftKings has a seven on Buffalo here. Total is dropped massively, 43 and a half. There's a 43
on MGM. That makes sense. This time here in Buffalo, the weather is going to play a factor. And we are looking at lake effect snow.
We're looking at 30 mile an hour gusts right around kickoff.
Tough recipe for any team.
Magnified in this spot with a South Florida team on the road that is scuffling a bit.
The wild part is this is a rematch from a crazy week three game in September
that had a little bit of everything there.
I mean, we had like the butt puntsts that was littered with guys missing plays and
leaving the game due to cramps and dehydration because of the heat.
JD, we're on the other side of it now.
Talk to me about the scuffling dolphins and the bills.
And we're on the other side of it so much that I didn't have confidence in
any of these offenses in dry weather, let alone in cold weather.
We have to now, as we mentioned last week,
definitely point to the fact that Tua looked great against Lions, Bears,
Browns, and Texans, and then he's completed just 46% of his passes
against the 49ers and Chargers these past two games.
And then you look on the other side of the ball,
Josh Allen, 8.3 yards per attempt, 19 passing touchdowns through week eight,
but then since week nine and
maybe it's because of the elbow injury I'm not so sure it could also correlate with uh just the
offense being different having to change their ways according to the defenses and the harder
schedule they've played as well but since week nine just six and a half yards per attempt only
seven plus passing touchdowns in those six starts uh In this six-game stretch as well, Bills are only
averaging 2.1 points per drive, which would take them outside of the top 10 and basically make them
just above a league average offense. And it's weird because in their last matchup against the
Dolphins in week three, that's when DC Josh Boyer did blitz the hell out of Josh Allen,
and he completed 77% of his passes for 200 yards, two touchdowns,
9.2 yards per attempt in that game.
But since week nine as well, he's been awful against the blitz.
Five yards per attempt, no touchdowns, no interceptions as well,
basically just dumping it off for no gain.
So, yeah, I have no confidence in either of these offenses.
If you told me to pick one,
I think I would actually rather pick Tua in this spot given that the Bills are still leaking production through the air
but overall if you say pick a side like I'm actually just taking the hook here and saying
seven and a half points is enough in what I think is going to be a low scoring game
yeah and we've seen that Connor and maybe it's a combination of what Dangle's talking about too
it's not just weather concerns it's about maybe some scuffling offenses to have what have been elite offenses all season
but again it's we talked about it last week a little bit like yeah the niners did what the
niners did and they had success but it's gonna be really hard to replicate that because not everyone
has those dudes and the chargers did it without bosa without Derwin James, and they really got to Tua.
You've been a Tua guy from jump.
I don't think anyone should be jumping ship after two bad games,
but defend your guy.
Let me know what you think about this matchup.
Well, the way that the defenses are basically counteracting
what the Dolphins do well is they're getting really physical
with Tyreek and Waddle in the line and basically saying like,
okay, we're probably going to give up one to two plays over the top, but they're bracketing him.
They're getting really physical in the line, really trying to take away those like
intermediate to deep spaces for the Dolphins. And so you're Mike McDaniel now two weeks in a row of
that happening. I think you have to go back to the drawing board in some senses and either
get either the quick game going, or you have to get the running game going because that was
something that was like notably absent i think in in recent weeks and it's something that they
necessarily haven't had to rely on but i feel like they kind of thought that they always could if
they needed to and when they needed it most they could not uh so i kind of anticipate in this spot
them like just really trying to run the ball a little bit more because if they get any kind of
running game that opens up a lot with play action in terms of just the way they're schematically, you know, running things. And I feel like that in a, from a coach's mindset can
make a massive difference to them. So like, in my opinion, I think, especially given the conditions,
like they're like, okay, the passing game we got going on is not working out.
Like I could see a ton of running, uh, and just like focusing on, uh, Ricky Mostert here. And I
think Jeff Wilson was out, uh, practice today, but if he gets in there too, I feel like both of them could see a heavy dose of the ball here. I would leave with the plus
seven and a half, just because I think that the hook is important there. I think it's,
I don't think that the bills like blow, you know, the doors off here in any way.
So I think that seven and a half is an interesting look, but nothing that I
love because again, like I don't have a ton of confidence in them happening after
they couldn't beat like a, a chargers B team squad, you know happening after they couldn't beat like a Chargers B team squad you know like they couldn't adjust to that like they had no answers you know even mid-game at all on
anything and so that was pretty concerning for me yeah that for me too I mean obviously without
Vaughn Miller's is not the same pass rush that it has been all season they can still get pressure
with their front four Tredavious White's back you know bolsters the back end for them a little bit
too they you know what do we do here with the weather?
Again, I know it's really hard to play Weatherman on a Wednesday night,
a full 72 hours out from this game.
But what can we expect?
I mean, it's looking like game time, a little before game time,
we're going to have some snow, but like 30-mile-per-hour gusts at this point
we know is above, I think, the threshold of being concerned.
How should we be kind of approaching the game plan for this?
I don't even know, to be honest,
because I don't like predicting the weather for Sunday.
I would be worried about the wind for sure,
but the snow has never really concerned me in any football game.
So yeah, I'm just going to play it by ear, take it to Saturday night.
But if it is 30 mile per hour winds for sure, sustaining throughout the game or expected to, I could,
I could see myself being much lower than, you know, what this total is already sunk to 42 points,
considering it opened up at 48. Yeah. I was seeing, uh, it looks like like light snow,
like flurries. And then I was seeing like sustained winds in the 10 to 15 range with
gusts, like up to 30, like you were saying. So I think that it's like, it's interesting because like Dagle said,
the snow is not enough to really matter. The wind is like kind of matters if the projections are
right. And then the cold kind of matters as well, because it feels like temperature will be like in
the teens or like really low twenties. So like all of that stuff together might add up to matter a
little bit, but it also might not. So, you know, I feel like that's kind of tough right now. It's definitely
a play by your situation at the moment. Yeah. Dan's mentioning in the chat teams are 45.7%
against the spread on the third straight road game. This is the second year in a row that
Miami's played the third game of three straight road games in Buffalo.
So the scheduling gods not being super kind to them in terms of in-division
tough matchups.
So again, a couple on the West Coast,
now back on the East Coast and trying to get right.
Suddenly, like, this is a tough little matchup for them, obviously.
And then playoff pitcher is a little bit rocky behind them.
So, like, not that this is a must win for them,
but I definitely didn't think we'd be here a couple weeks ago with the way this team was was you
know absolutely cruising so got to be an interesting one i kind of agree with you guys like
i wish that i had a little bit more confidence in what we've seen out of either squad of late
i feel like the hook probably matters probably a stay away from me at this point um would love
to see what happens and how the market shapes and if others are scared of the weather as we kind of get closer to kit because like i said i mean i feel
like we have a pretty good idea of what's going to be coming but again weather day of even at times
can be tricky so you know looking 72 hours out is a pretty dicey decision when you're trying to
you know make actually market shaping decisions around it. Next game, we have the Giants on the road in Washington.
I believe Washington for the most part, four and a half.
This game has got shifted into the primetime Sunday slot.
Yeah, four and a half is across the board.
Forty and a half is the total here, which is interesting.
Running back the week 13 tie, a gift really to both teams
as it relates to the NFC playoff picture especially considering seattle's loss last week to carolina commanders
coming off the bye um it's hard to imagine that they don't make the playoffs with a win here which
is not what we had thought especially early in the carson wentz iteration of this team actually 538
has the commander's playoff odds at 91% with a win here.
So they are almost guaranteed a win here. Giants on the outside looking in, just a 25% chance to
make the playoffs if they don't win this game and the injuries continue to mount up. Richie James,
the fact that he even matters, and we have to talk about Richie James mattering to the Giants,
speaks volumes to where we're at. He's in the concussion protocol. He is in danger of missing this one. Saquon Barkley, true game time decision
last week, clearly beaten up, really is going to need to carry them down the stretch. He was not
on the injury report on Wednesday, so that is encouraging. But again, tough slate for him here
against a pretty strong Washington team. Again, coming off the bye,
Dago let you get started with this, again,
important playoff game in the NFC.
Are we getting Chase Young?
So the Chase Young stuff is wild to me.
We're like over a year in that he is like questionable
into every game.
I don't know how they don't know like that he's ready to go or not.
He's definitely questionable.
I don't even know why we like flirt with him being close because I feel that he's ready to go or not. He's definitely questionable. I don't even know why we flirt with him being close
because I feel like he's been close for a month.
Let me pull up the injuries here.
I mean, it's the same thing.
It's still him, just basically questionable.
So I wasn't sure if anyone else heard anything else.
No, not yet.
All right, well, last time we saw these two teams play,
it was pretty fluky for Washington's offensive side of the ball.
They had averaged 28 pass attempts per game compared to 38
with Taylor Heineke compared to Carson Wentz.
And then, of course, they play 70 minutes of useless football
and Heineke throws 41 passes.
I think we're going to see a much sluggish, slow-it-down game
between Brian Robinson and Antonio Gibson,
both who were limited on Wednesday, but expecting to play.
And I just, I still don't understand where the Giants are going to get
any amount of product.
Like, who's going to produce for them?
I just don't know.
Whether we get Chase Young here or not, considering, you know,
we keep talking about it now, but in his last five games,
Saquon Barkley averaging just 79 yards per game.
Also, look at, you mentioned Richie James,
but Darius Slayton, more of an explosive player.
That's why Isaiah Hodgins has scored touchdowns in back-to-back games,
but he's basically become their number one wide receiver in this time.
So I just don't have, I think, honestly, the wheels have fallen off.
I don't have anything to sell on the Giants
winning a slower game that I expect Washington
to just run the ball heavily with.
So yeah, this is ugly.
It's hideous.
Yeah, got to be on the docket here though, Conor,
because we got to talk about it because it matters
definitely in relation to some other stuff.
But it matters to who gets knocked out in the first round.
Yes.
Right.
No, I know.
Same thing two weeks ago. We, I know. Same thing.
Two weeks ago,
we had to talk about this one.
It's like all of a sudden this game matters in relation to a real
football,
but yeah,
hard to deviate off of much of what Connor or what Zagle said there,
Connor.
Yeah.
Well,
what I found was interesting is I,
I had like the exact same thought.
I'm like,
okay,
well,
it'll probably be a slow,
close game.
I think the commanders are a better team,
but I,
I don't love the commanders either, you know? And so the spread is four and a half. I feel like that's, I would have put it
at like three and a half. I don't know. I mean, I feel like there's a little bit of value here
with the giants, but am I taking the giants in this spot? Absolutely not. I, because again,
I have the same question. How are they going to move the ball? But I've asked that for,
I don't know, the entire season almost at this point, like at least for a while, you could rely on maybe a big play from Saquon.
Now you're not even getting that.
So, yeah, I don't know.
I feel like I still think that Washington is the better team.
Like you said, I think that they're probably three and a half points better.
Four and a half.
I mean, it's like kind of a dead number.
So, like, you basically need them to win by six or seven points.
I can't bet on that.
So I feel like for me,
it's just a pass.
This is the time of the year where a lot of games,
just if you watch them,
it's only for work.
And like this game is work.
Cause this game definitely like it.
Yes.
It matters in the context of football,
but it also doesn't matter in the context of football.
It's laborious.
This game is not going to change the world.
Not,
not a bold comment.
I'll be watching it for Julian love tackle props.
I imagine we'll chase the Julian love train again.
I mean,
we've talked about it a lot lately because the wheels have started to come
off,
but I feel like you got to give wink Kafka,
Dable,
a ton of credit here because they've really been overperforming all season
and the fact that they're even still like mid-december in the mix both sides of the ball
especially on offense have been terrific in the red zone um in relation to like their base metrics
like they are top five offense um in the red zone and they're significantly better they're like one
of the worst defenses in the league but they're like middle of the pack and a little above average inside the red
zone. And that's kind of, you know,
you can make a case that there's a lot of noise in that.
And that sometimes would obviously regress over a larger sample than we'll
ever get in a football season.
It just isn't going to ever statistically give us a large enough sample to
feel like it's, you know, actionable or there's something there,
but also like there's definitely something where we have to give it to the coaching and this is one of those spots where
feel like that this team has been able to definitely maximize the talent that they've
had especially as the injuries have started to mount so i do think at a certain point
the wheels are going to fall off um i truly really so that we can watch good football in
the playoffs hope that that happens because i would hate to be in the spot where we're having to watch a you know giants buccaneers playoff game uh which would be just an invisible
um three hours that we would have to do but it could happen theoretically so i mean we're going
to get bucks commanders then instead so it's going to be just equally as i mean watching the
nfc in the playoffs is just going to be like horrible for the wild it'll be the worst wild
card weekend like ever i know because if we don't get bucks we get panthers I don't know if that's any better you can't think about this it's close I
mean we're in a spot where if we're not because we're not talking about those teams if the panthers
win this week against the steelers and the bucks lose against the bangles we're going to talk about
that that game then that week 17 matchup against the, with the Panthers and the Bucks could very well be for the playoff spot,
the NFC South crown, just a wild place to be. But, um, Hey,
this is where we are. Luckily the AFC playoff pitcher, um,
assuming that my Patriots gracefully bow out, uh,
we should have a bunch of really good games.
Unfortunately the Patriots are still sticking their nose in there. Um,
but yeah, they belong in the NFC playoff picture.
They fit in really nicely.
Panthers control their own destiny regardless,
and they're not even doing anything.
They're averaging 21 pass attempts with Sam Darnold.
They're averaging 40 running back carries per game the last two weeks.
Like they don't do anything.
So ridiculous.
Defense is playing pretty good.
We need the pandemic to happen again.
Like this, this fact, Defense is playing pretty good football. We need the pandemic to happen again. The fact they added rules to the NFL
and made it the worst product possible,
I just don't get it.
Who wanted this?
No one wanted this.
Stop throwing flags.
We need the pandemic back.
It's true.
You sound like Silva.
This is absurd.
It's not a compliment.
There are four teams.
There are four unders under 40 this week.
There are, I think, five teams with 18, no, six teams with 18 point team totals or under.
Like, who's good?
Where's the good football?
Not a lot of good teams.
Yeah.
There's not a lot of them.
So, oh, next game.
A couple of buzzy teams teams they've been
playing uh better football definitely not a thought a spot that i thought we'd be highlighting
um in our preseason previews lions on the road in new york to face the jets uh shop around here
depending on your preference because this is out there uh draft kings has the jets a one-point
favorite seizures has it as a pick fanduel has Jets, a one-point favorite. Caesars has it as a pick.
FanDuel has the Lions as a one-point favorite.
So there are definitely different ways to, again,
we're just kind of working around zero.
But, you know, in terms of like plus money on the money line,
this would be impactful there.
44.5 is the total basically painted across the board.
Definitely an interesting one.
Interconference game, but again, immense playoff implications here.
Lions head to New York on the back of a solid win at home against the Vikings.
They've won five of their past six and very winnable games on the schedule from here out.
We referenced the splits a bunch on various shows.
The on-off stuff with Amon Ross, St. Brown, DeAndre Swift, when they're active is wild.
This is basically a bottom five offense in the league when they're out and the top five
offense in the league when they are active.
The test is a bit tougher here this week on the road, in the cold, which is not Jared
Goff's forte historically.
And this Jets defense is wreaking havoc of late, Tegel.
It's going to be an interesting one.
Hopefully, maybe some of the better football of the week.
And I lean towards the jets money line if it's if it's minus one somewhere which it was when i
bet it on monday i just ate the points and laid minus 120 but right now since detroit's buy they
actually have made a change and just playing more stack boxes and stopping the run. They haven't allowed a single 75-yard performance on the ground in that time,
but opponents know that as well,
and that's why teams are now averaging 37 passes against them since week eight,
and that's exactly how the Mike White Jets have played in their last three games,
allowing White to average 43 pass attempts,
and White, where he's been the worst, has been the red zone,
just 9-22 for one touchdown, one pick inside the 20.
But that's also where the Lions are allowing
the third-highest touchdown rate is inside the red zone.
So I think we do see a boost here.
And it's also just the fact that the Lions now,
they stayed at home for three consecutive games.
This is going to be their first road game since November 20th.
And we know that Jared Goff just two touchdowns and five games on the road compared to 20 touchdowns
and eight games at home a drastic difference and two of those games came with Amon Ron Swift
against the Bears and Giants there's really no excuse for him to have that drastic of splits
I think it's just simply because the Ford field is genuinely the coolest
field of the NFL.
So yeah,
I think it's a terrible spot for the lions and lions defense here.
Lions defense are still getting run over for 26 points and six yards for
play on the road this year as well.
So I like Mike White and the jets to win outright.
Mike White took a beating last week,
Connor even spent a little bit of time in the hospital.
Ribs were beat up,
you know, concerned about who's making the start here. Cause I think it definitely changed the dynamic of this game. Took a beating last week, Connor. Even spent a little bit of time in the hospital. Ribs were beat up.
Concerned about who's making the start here because I think it definitely changed the dynamic of this game.
But it looks like all signs, Robert Sala talking today,
that it looks like Mike White's going to be the guy.
I know we've talked a lot.
I think we both remember vividly that Rams-Bears game
where the Rams just could not be be stopped the bears were kind of mediocre
defense was better than the offense but like they went there and laid an absolute egg with jerry
goff in his small cold hands again i know it's not going to be like frigid in new york but it's
going to be cold and it's not to dagle's point going to be the comfy indoor um you know ford
field weather conditions here yeah i mean jared goff california
boy went to cal never played out in cold has literally played four career games in 35 degrees
or colder even in the nfl right now in those games just one touchdown five turnovers has averaged
fewer than six yards per attempt in three of those games negative completion percentage over
expectation in three of the four as well they scored fewer than 10 points in two of those games, negative completion percentage over expectation and three of the four as well. And they scored fewer than 10 points in two of those games as well.
And now, you know, kind of running into a buzzsaw here. There's, there's a multiple factors because
we look at who the jet, who the lions have faced, right. And kind of like,
like the, the war has been restored, right. That's fine. You know, they've been playing
better offensively, but for, for the last five games to come against the bears where they scored 31 points, who's 31st and DVO way, the giants 26
and DVO way they scored 31 points Buffalo where they played well against, but it was kind of a
fluky game in my opinion, then Jacksonville 30th and pass even CBO way, Minnesota 27th pass even
CBO way. They've literally been just wrecking bad teams, which you can't say that they did their
job. That's the good, but now they're facing a much tougher test on the road outside. So I'm really worried about this
Lions offense, but I mean, there's also been some, you know, some rumblings that Mike White not be,
may not be good to go for this game. And so Zach Wilson would be drawing the start for me.
That leads to me taking the under here. I think 44 and a half is way too high. If we see Zach
Wilson start, because without Zach, without, um, yeah, Zach Wilson starting the jets with Joe
Flacco with Mike White, a pass the ball a ton have been fine with just letting their quarterbacks
play within the system with Zach Wilson. They've been one of the run heaviest teams because they
want to hide him and they want to kind of like keep him within that structure. Now he did play
within that structure against Buffalo, but still like, I have no faith in that happening.
So I think that the under here with Detroit,
Detroit's offense laying an egg and the jets probably skewing massively run
heavy,
unless they fall like way behind.
So I think we're probably going to see like a low scoring run heavy game
here.
If Zach Wilson starts,
which I mean,
again,
I don't,
I don't know how likely at this point,
but there's definitely been a quiet drum beat,
you know,
going on in the background here. Definitely changed the of things right like we just like you said shifted
philosophy shifts game plans shift the whole way i think that this team uh kind of operates so
i would think that amon ross still probably gets there when you think about how stout
the jets passing game has really been on the outside right dj reed sauce gardener michael
carter in the slot has been a spot where teams with really good slots have been able to work a little bit so i think aman
ross probably pretty safe um in terms of his workload here uh obviously garrett wilson would
be a in a great spot i think with like white it'd feel obviously a little more trepidation if this
is a zach wilson game but uh yeah i mean i'm i kind of like your lean
44 is a key number in total so the half there is is pretty viable too um because again they
but i think just the foot off the gas comes massively with the way that the jets played
with zach wilson they just do try to hide him and and get this game over with as quickly as possible
all right see what the weather happens uh with there as well all right next and get this game over with as quickly as possible. All right.
We'll see what the weather happens with there as well.
All right, next, Dallas on the road in Jacksonville.
Let me see where we are down to.
Well, I can shout this one too.
Dallas is minus four in a few spots.
There's a four and a half on FanDuel.
Points bet still hanging at five here.
47 and a half is the total.
It's moved a bit.
This is sixes, six and a halves in the look ahead market.
I think a pretty clear response to how these two clubs looked last week.
Dallas, huge home favorites.
It took until like the late, late fourth quarter for a stop and a score to put away the Texans B team.
Not great.
On the other hand, Jags on the road
took advantage of a bunch of Tennessee injuries, rolled them up pretty good. And you keep hearing
that they maybe kept their playoff hopes alive in that process as well.
Publix really yo-yoed really hard on Jacksonville here. Everyone was really excited about them
heading into Detroit two weeks ago after they beat the Ravens the week before. Everyone jumped off the bandwagon heading into Tennessee after the Detroit loss.
Now everyone's back in.
We've seen a ton of early love here in this matchup table for Jacksonville.
Give me your thoughts on this one.
And everyone cites this stretch that Trevor Lawrence has endured since week nine
where he's completed 72% of his passes for 10 touchdowns and no picks,
but he was only pressured on 30% of his dropbacks in one of those games,
and that was his worst performance against the Lions,
which he did get injured, but he also didn't miss a series.
He returned for that game and then, of course,
blew up against the Titans just last week.
Eight of Lawrence's 10 touchdowns in that span have also come inside the 20,
and in that same time since their bye,
Dallas has allowed the league's fewest pass attempts
and completions inside the red zone
as they've been just a shutdown defense.
So whereas I have many questions about Jags offense
and actually a tough spot,
I don't have any questions about not only the Jags defense,
but the Cowboys offense too.
The Cowboys are still averaging 35 points per game
since Dak returned from injury.
The Jags are allowing 27 points per game, including 285 passing yards through the air
since week six. And even in the last month, Jacksonville allowing the third highest rate of
passing touchdowns, including a 62% completion rate with league leading nine touchdowns inside
the red zone. So my breakdown is as simple as the Jaguars can't stop the Cowboys,
and I question if the Jaguars can move the ball
to match point-per-point against the Cowboys.
Yeah, I kind of agree with Daniel here, Connor.
The move feels like it's gone a little too far, in my opinion,
but I don't know what your thoughts are.
Yeah, I agree, especially on the Dallas side, specifically offensively. Um, my, my kind of look for this game was the over. I thought that
interesting at 47 and a half. I thought that that was a couple, a couple of points too low,
because like you said, like I expect Dallas's office to have plenty of success here, 30 plus
points pretty easily. Um, and then the Jacksonville's offense is obviously super volatile.
Like, and I think that that plays into what you're talking about noon and with, you know,
a couple of weeks ago,
everyone was super excited for them against Detroit.
They lay an egg,
but then they just,
you know,
look like world beaters against the Titans.
Like,
you know,
I would say much better Titans defense than the,
you know,
than the lion.
So I think that that's okay though,
for this total,
because looking at kind of their combined games here,
the Jags,
the last three games,
58,
54 and 55 combined points.
And then Dallas is Dallas has gone over 47 and a half in all of their games since the bye.
And the only, except for one where they won 40 to three.
So I'd expect a little bit more pushback than that from the Jags.
But yeah, so I would, I would lean towards Dallas side at minus four, but I also think
that this game could easily go well over the total.
If the Jaguars put up like anything reasonable offensively, I'm talking like, I don't know,
13, 17 points and should still go over yeah if you're looking that so I do think
there's more volatility on that Jags offensive side and I agree with you that's why I think
more than the game total I'd prefer it maybe attack a Cowboys team total 26 and a half as
well so it's sitting on the right spot of where we would want it to be from you know they just it takes the jaguars aspect out of it right because we know that this
cowboys defense can be really good um you can shut down the perimeter they've done it all season
they can force turnovers and get pressure and again like i don't want to like let the cowboys
off the hook for last week but it's not uncommon to know that like gosh this is the worst team in
the league coming to town.
We're rolling right now.
They're not even bringing, like, their best.
It's very easy for you, even as a professional athlete,
to kind of be like, nah, just kind of, like, go through it a little bit.
And they got caught with their pants down.
And yet, like, certain guys in game react quicker than others. And by the time everyone gets on the same page,
it's late in the fourth quarter, like, we got to get this going.
And, you know, again, it's going to happen over the course of a season and it happened to them in a
big way and luckily they again it would have been a terrible loss luckily they caught it before it
was too late they should have lost yeah they i mean they fumbled they fumbled inside the 10 and
the texans just didn't score would have put them up 30 to 20 and instead they couldn't punch it in
from like the one yard line and then dallas is a 99 yard drive to score and finish it.
I mean,
obviously that separates what's a good team and bad team,
but still like,
let's say they,
they literally just ignored their opponent until less than two minutes
remaining,
had to go 98 yards and did that.
That was the moral of the game.
Which again,
you do kind of,
it's not a win for them,
but it is a win in,
you know,
multiple aspects.
Like you want to be able to see that they can do that when they have
to, you'd love for them to not just lay an egg for three quarters. But, you know, multiple aspects, like you want to be able to see that they can do that when they have to,
you'd love for them to not just lay an egg for three quarters. But, um,
you know, again, I can understand just the human nature, uh,
in the psychology of it all. Like, you know,
we're talking about the grinds of content.
These guys are literally going out every day, getting pounded. Uh,
it's a different grind for them. So when you get out there, you're like,
I just kind of want to go through the motions a little bit.
We should be able to just kind of cruise here.
Maybe you can get the fourth quarter off.
And they get caught off guard with a team that's really got nothing to lose.
They're just trying to put a good tape out there for further their career.
And some guys probably did.
So good for them.
Keep the train rolling.
They're on the clock.
I don't think the Bears will be able to catch them for the first pick.
But good for the Texans for doing their best.
We'll see what they do this week against the Chiefs.
Which sucks because I got some Bears least wins tickets,
and those are, I mean, close if the Texans weren't the worst,
you know, like just the worst.
Finish off a game or two and we'd be cooking, you know?
Yeah.
Bears under five and a half is looking real good though.
Oh, yeah.
Philly, Buffalo, Detroit, next three for the Bears.
Justin Fields not practicing either right now.
Yep.
Not great.
All right.
Next here, last of the Sunday bunch.
We have the aforementioned game between the Bengals and the Bucs.
Let me see where our odds are at here, See what's shifted, moved a little bit.
We are out to three and a half on the Buccaneers across the board.
44 is the total.
FanDuel with a rogue 43 and a half, which I think matters as far as game totals go.
Bengals' late season run has been impressive.
Sunday's win against the Browns came with an injury tax.
It's going to make
this late season stretch here a bit more difficult. Obviously, much has been made of the T. Higgins
usage or lack thereof after playing just one snap last week. Also lost Tyler Boyd early after he
dislocated a finger. He did practice in limited fashion on Wednesday. We think he'll probably
still be out, but it was interesting to see that he did get out there at least today also lost trey hendricks their top pass rusher broke his wrist mid-game
like an absolute boss he continued to play uh but he will likely be out for this one we saw
trey hendricks wear a club on his hand for much of the late season run last season so maybe we see
club hendricks again uh but probably not. His absence would be a welcome sight for the box
offense, especially while Tristan Wirth still remains out. They have done a terrible job at
protecting Tom Brady of late and this box offense continues to spin their tires. They will. It's
been really rough to watch. I mean, I don't think we expected much out of them in San Francisco,
but it's probably even worse than expected. It's not going to be any better to watch this game because these two quarterbacks last month, no last three weeks now,
including Joe Burrow, have shifted everything and they are top three with Trevor Lawrence
and fastest time from snap to throw because that's what the bingos have done. That's what
they switched to make sure Joe Burrow basically doesn't take sacks anymore himself. It's going to be a lot
of dump offs. It's going to be a slow moving game. Even in these last three games, Burrow is only
going downfield on 6.9% of his attempts, which is the fourth fewest in the league in that time.
Just less shots, 20 yards downfield. So the Bucs as well haven't even reached 23 points
in nine consecutive games now.
Like this one's going to suck.
Good luck.
I hear lots of dump offs.
I was thinking linebacker tackles.
So we're good here.
Lots of them.
Lots of them.
Yeah.
What do you got here, Connor?
Yeah, it's interesting because the Bucs,
like they want to run the ball, but they can't like at all. And then like, like predictably last week against the Niners, obviously they couldn't run.
They tried to a little bit and then they're like, Brady's like, okay, not doing this.
Pass the ball 55 times or whatever it was now. And I mean, kind of a similar spot here. Like
DJ reader matters defensively. Like he's good at clogging the run. They're probably gonna try and
run the ball in the first quarter fail and then end up having to pass the ball 50 times again uh to keep wait to keep up with the bangles at all who i think
should have like i wouldn't say a ton of success but i would certainly more success in the bucks
uh it sucks that this number is three and a half would have loved to have grabbed a three here on
the bangles side um but probably still lean towards the bangles i just i just don't think
you can bet on the bucks right now just given what we've seen, like, or haven't seen,
you know,
for the last,
what'd you say?
Nine games,
you know,
for offensively.
So it's been gross.
I mean,
we've seen a like neutered Chris Godwin,
essentially like very,
very low a dots.
You know,
the Mike Hammond stuff has been talked about a lot.
It's just been,
you know,
a lot of empty air yards and empty calories and hopefully DPIs,
but mostly just, you know, things that just haven't been working.
And I feel like they really miss Gronk.
They just haven't had that consistent tight end that, you know,
third down chain mover this season.
The run game has been atrocious, as you guys both mentioned.
It's just been kind of a rough go.
Be interested to see what happens with that movie four.
I think we probably, more likely than than not get them in the playoffs and uh again right now it looks like they're
set to probably play dallas who i can't imagine um that we wouldn't all be like dying to lay
uh anything less than you know six and a half seven on that game uh desperately in the playoffs
because i just i can't see the bucks really getting to a point where they can score consistently to hang with some of these best teams in the nfc so it's uh
it's ugly sledding here i mean that would have to be like nine and a half ten like i mean there's
yeah it has to be over a touchdown for sure otherwise it's a hammer especially it would be
at dallas i would well maybe not because they'd be they'd be in tampa maybe that's better actually to
be honest i don't even think that matters because Dallas would just roll them.
Dallas, for the most part, locked into the number five at this point.
Which is wild.
We're a month out, basically.
All right.
Last, we'll do the Thursday games.
San Francisco in Seattle.
This one is, again, obviously, playoff implications here.
Again, shop.
There are some different prices out there.
DraftKings out to 3.5 on San Francisco, though it is basically even odds,
whereas points bets, Caesars, FanDuel, still hanging threes.
43 is the total.
As we typically see, FanDuel a little off market, 43.5,
which is an interesting little number there.
Without the threat of a run game against the Panthers,
a lot of that pressure fell on Geno Smith against Carolina,
and it did not go well.
Test only gets harder here against the Niners on a short week.
Looks like Ken Walker will be back.
That should help a little bit, but again,
really tough sledding for him against the Niners.
This first matchup was one of Geno's worst performances of the season.
Niners defense is a
buzzsaw right now um in terms of market dynamics feels like an interesting spot um we've had a few
dominant performances from san francisco uh you know prime time late windows last couple of weeks
absolutely throttled their opponents and that's kind of the opposite of what we happened last
week we saw what happened last week with seattle um i don't think we should like blindly chase these situational
spots but i also feel like brock purdy pretty soft landing spot last week again like home game
tampa's kind of reeling first road start in the division short week in seattle which again could
be a pretty difficult place to play uh they love to get your thoughts here on the Thursday nighter.
And Gino has turned the ball over six times in his last three starts.
But more importantly, I look to Seattle's defense because it's just falling apart.
Over the last month, 28.5 points per game, 5.7 yards per play, and generating the league's
fifth lowest pressure rate in that span.
Also allowing over five yards per carry and seven the league's fifth lowest pressure rate in that span also
allowing over five yards per carry and seven total rushing touchdowns to opposing running backs
in that time and that's exactly how the 49ers are going to hit them on Thursday especially with
Brock Purdy now limited and likely to start but still maybe being questionable for this game so
yeah I question like how Seattle punches back, honestly.
Geno even came out and told the media
he wasn't going to take as many chances
and get back to the way he played
and taking what the defense gives him
as he did the first couple months of the year.
But what does that mean against the league's
best defense and best pass rush?
I don't know.
So yeah, I just have the utmost faith
that the 49ers won't struggle to
move the ball. And I don't know what's going to happen for the Seahawks. Yeah. Connor, I feel
like three and a half is the right play, but again, I do feel like, again, I I'm the square
who believes what he's seen from the Niners of late. Um, what are your thoughts here?
No, a hundred percent. We're betting against, uh, the market. There's a three at fan door right now. And I like that. Uh, but
we're definitely betting against, uh, like the sharp side here, because this should be,
I think like, I don't know, six and a half, honestly here, like six, uh, you know, that's
what I would make the number. And so in this spot, I agree with everything you guys are saying.
I don't really have too much to add besides we're probably missing something. And, uh, you know, there's, there's, there's a lot
of interest. It seems like I'm the Seattle side here with the number not moving towards the
Niners, but what do you guys think Kenneth Walker's role is going to be when he comes back?
It looks like player prop is 49 and a half rushing yards. I wanted to bet the under,
I mean, he's only gone over that four times this year, really struggled as of late, banged up, tough matchup.
Like, I don't know.
I get scared fading a guy who's flash talent,
but like he's had like four good games
and the rest have been pretty bad as he's been injured.
So any, I mean, any thoughts on that one?
I mean, just because he has the big playability,
which has been part of, you know, his success this year
when he hasn't had some of those big electric plays,
he's had some pretty, you know, middling performances.
So yeah, I mean, I think you have multiple outs on the ender because it's such
a tough matchup uh he could just be limited right he could be extremely limited to early down
advantageous you know chain situations so you could have just some baked in um you know outs
in in that spot and again maybe if he is limited and things get wonky late uh
maybe he is is rested and saved for another day because again win or lose they're still in the
playoff picture here um so i not a play for me but i i like the look uh yeah like under literally
no one's reached 60 yards rushing against the 49ers yet this year so i i can't imagine like
he's the first one to do it when he's banged up.
Yeah, that's, that's good.
Yeah.
I was waiting for a couple more outs here to catch up, but it's like the
number is certainly, I mean, adjusted already, you know, like his normal
number was like the sixties.
Um, but I feel like it's just, there's enough outs with like the, you know,
injury workload concerns, efficiency concerns, you know, game scripts
concerns with the Niners blow them out.
Like you mentioned, uh, I was also considering another angle here would be
on the other side with like Jordan Mason rushing yards, because like I expect McCaffrey to get the
most of the work, right. But his prop is 80 rushing yards already, uh, which is pretty hefty.
And I feel like there's gotta be someone else that they use. And I think that guy's Jordan
Mason for probably in like the five to 10
ish carry range at this point.
I mean,
any thoughts there or no,
I'm not saying you're wrong,
but they literally didn't use him until McCaffrey was benched in the third
quarter last week.
McCaffrey literally played every snap.
And when they had Debo in the backfield,
they used McCaffrey,
a wide receiver.
Like they keep McCaffrey on the field until they blow a team out so if you were suggesting
that those props correlate because walker would go under and most likely in that case and then
mason would get run otherwise uh like i i don't know because mcafree's staying in this game with
a limited quarterback for sure until it's out of hand yeah that's there's also a 16 and a half
rushing attempts for him which i think the over there is probably a good look as well for McCaffrey.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like I just like,
that's what I'm saying.
Like,
I just legit don't know who's going to get the ball.
Like,
I feel like they probably don't want to 25.
I mean,
like,
did they run it 25 times?
Like,
I feel like that's stupid,
but like,
I mean,
who else are they going to give it to Jordan?
They're not going to give it to Jordan Mason that much.
Right.
Like if they,
if at all.
So no,
I think it's just too thin to be banking on um you
know game script benching type situations where you're you know um because dagle's right i mean
you know it's his usage has been you know prime carolina-esque um and just a you know better
better offense better weapons uh smarter coaching it's been just you know fun to offense, better weapons, smarter coaching. It's been just, you know, fun to watch.
So, yeah, I'm with you.
I like the Walker look.
I'd probably stay away from the Mason look.
Maybe if it's available live, like if you get a feel for this game
getting just kind of out of hand, if they still have that posted,
there's probably some viability to taking a stab at it live,
but not something I would take pregame.
So, all right, gents, anything else on the board that you guys wanted to to take a look at again we have uh you know three games you know colts vikings uh ravens browns on
saturday to go along with the dolphins and the bills game and then you know fairly normal sunday
slate on top of it and then uh kind of a stinker on monday night with the rams and packers but uh
any other looks that you guys wanted to share connor i'll start with you yeah it's it sucks because i only
have four more chances to fade the bears so i'm going to take advantage of that here with the
the eagles minus nine uh i think i mean i don't think it's a massive value or anything i just
think it should be 10 uh you know i feel like this is a spot where the eagles here win by double
digits as you as you mentioned fields Fields questionable with some kind of illness,
needs as much practice as you can get.
No Darnell Mooney.
Like, I mean, Chase Claypool still doesn't understand the playbook.
So like, it's going to have to basically be Justin Fields running a bunch,
which they scaled back the designed runs last time.
You know, prior to the buy, only six total carries compared to what he was getting,
like 15 plus uh prior to that so you know
i think in this spot here like the eagles can put up easily 30 i know the the bears do get back
chaquan brisker and kyler gordon which i guess kind of matters but i don't really think matters
too much against the team like like the eagles so uh and the bears right now just getting steam
rolled otherwise so you know i i think the eagles Eagles here just go to Chicago and lay like another 35.
And I'm not really too sure that the Bears here are able to keep up in any sense.
Small card for me this week.
Also, noon and hammer the point home.
But do make sure if you're betting Dolphins plus seven and a half,
line chop it because it's seven at most books,
but you can still get a hook out there.
And like, I wouldn't bet it at seven.
But I also bet over 48 on the Colts and Vikings before thinking we get pushback from both sides of the ball here.
Kirk cousins.
Well, as we know, Gus Bradley for the Colts leans on cover three,
42% of his snaps second of the league and Kirk cousins against,
it gets zone coverage this year.
75% of his passes has completed for 9.1 yards per attempt.
Vikings won't have issues moving the ball.
But more importantly, everyone looks at Matt Ryan and notes his struggles,
and that's true.
But he also played the Steelers, Cowboys, and Eagles
in his last three starts for the bye.
Whereas in the rare occasions he's had elite matchups this year,
Texans, Titans, and Jaguars,
he did pass for over 350 yards in all three of those games.
And Vikings have allowed a 300-yard passer in six of their last eight games.
So I like the over.
I like a lot of points in that first game on Saturday morning.
And then to close my card, I had also bet...
What the hell else did I bet?
Noonan, tell me what else you bet while I look this up.
So I'm with Connor on the Eagles thing. I just want to put this out there because i don't
think that the bears have the ability to do any of this but this has a very similar vibe
to last week's dallas in houston game there's a massive look ahead spot for the eagles
on the docket with the cowboys next week um Short week for them to travel.
Like I said, I think that's a Saturday game.
I think that it's a massive mismatch.
I just can't see the Bears doing anything to slow down the Eagles.
It just feels like one of those look-ahead spots.
The Eagles clinched a playoff spot.
They're going into Chicago knowing this Bears team is terrible.
We can do whatever we want against them.
I don't know what the number would need for me to be the back the bears in it it would have to be very large
larger than it is um and just a little nervous on the and again that could look stupid and right
away it's like gosh like it's just 17s at the end of one you're like yeah of course it is like
these two teams are in like totally different atmospheres um it just makes me a little bit
nervous uh when
you get these situations like they don't need this one but they got dallas on deck um yeah
not out there no that's a good point but uh i think the the lock of the week as it has been
every week i think it's what 12 and 1 at this point eagles first half over 13 and a half points
uh has only missed in one game this year yeah Yeah, that or Eagles two touchdowns,
depending on what the price is,
has been hitting at insane, insane rates.
It's basically the Nick Chubb longest rush of first half props.
Just lock those two in and then build the rest of your card.
So pretty light card for me in terms of sides and totals so far.
It's not a great spot.
I'd love to get your thoughts, Diggle,
on what you think we're going to see from Desmond Ritter
this matchup with the Falcons and Saints.
Dude, I don't know.
He was one of the worst third down passers in the nation,
so like on money downs,
which actually has been shown to be sticky from college NFL.
He just struggled so much.
I don't know.
I'm worried.
I'm worried.
Plus like the Saints defense has been good the last month.
Like the fact they held San Francisco to 13 points before we saw them for the
bye.
Yeah.
I genuinely don't know, but I definitely lean more towards worried.
It's, it's interesting because with Ritter, like it's not necessarily that he was like,
uh, a really aggressive runner, but he can run the ball.
Like, and he's, he ran like a four or five too.
You know, he has, he's very athletic and like, there's a narrative that like, and there's
been a narrative for a while that, oh, like, please put in Ritter.
They're going to pass way more, you know, like without a Mariota. I don't really think that's
true. I think they're going to run the shit out of the ball still. And I think they're going to
use right Ritter almost exactly how they use Mariota probably get throw them on some designed
runs. Probably just, I mean, they're going to give him a chance to show what he's got, but like,
I, you know, I genuinely think that like, sure, there's maybe more past volume, uh, like slightly,
but like really marginal, you know, like, I really think like we're probably talking
like two to three more attempts per game, not like 10.
Like I think some people expect.
Um, I, I remember my other bet.
I remember why I didn't want to say it.
Uh, I, I am, this is more for the prop show.
Actually. am this is more for the prop show actually i'm laddering rashid shaheed this week who
ran the second most routes was used in two wide sets before the saints went on by
and he's still averaging over 18 yards per catch the falcons allowing the sixth most yards per
target to opposing wide receivers and you look at their passing defense metrics but also like note
they've played ken Pickett, Taylor
Heineke, Justin Fields, and P.J. Walker over the last month.
Even in week nine, Justin Herbert, remember that game that I stacked like a donkey in
DFS?
He didn't have anyone to throw to, and he averaged around 5.7 yards per attempt.
But before then, quarterbacks were teeing off.
Tom Brady, 350.
Jimmy Garoppolo, nearly 300 yards.
Joe Burrow went for 480.
And so any competent quarterback play, which I think Dalton gave them after a bye,
will lead to explosiveness on offense.
We take out Mark Inger from this offense.
So I really think there's a sneaky path there for Shahid to get over 100 yards.
Let's get it.
Yeah, 74% route participation the week 13 before.
Yeah, it's not bad.
His prop is going to be like 35 probably.
It's going to be really well.
That's why we're laddering it, buddy.
We're point-turning this shit.
I like it.
I mean, two fantasy leagues that made the playoffs.
One, Lamar at quarterback.
The other with Kyler.
So I am forced to start Andy Dalton in the playoff match.
It's a really good spot.
I'm hoping that Shahid can get there and chip in.
Connor, did you make the playoffs in either of those leagues?
Kettlesons, yeah.
Did you?
Yeah, I'm in the playoffs.
The big one is –
My team is good.
My team is good.
I got a bunch of ballers on this team. This is a 14-man league. My team is stacked. The big one is my team is good. My team is good. I got I got a bunch of bunch of ballers on this team.
There's a 14 man league.
My team is stacked.
The big one is Connor and Sam Hoppen are still in the main event.
Whereas our team in the main event, just injuries caught up to us.
Like we couldn't fight off injuries too many.
I mean, kudos to you, though.
This is why I like doing leagues with you, because we are rolling out like the shittiest
waiver wire lineup I've ever seen in the playoffs.
And like, you know know we're still competing you know we're still getting close
which uh i cannot say for most other leagues and just in general like it's very rare to see people
put together that complete of lineups uh just on the waiver wire so dagle shout out to you
appreciate that it's as if corporate told me i better have a waiver i call him out by 3 p.m every
monday exactly it's as if he doesn't sleep on Sunday nights because he is grinding.
We were in that meeting.
We were at a golf meeting.
Are we even doing a show anymore?
We were at that golf meeting, Connor.
And like I noted, they were asking me.
And someone asked me if I was feeling better from last week.
And this was on Monday, I think.
And I was like, I'm still like definitely laggy,
but I did get seven hours of sleep last night. So we're
feeling good. I scheduled on my tweets ahead of time
and Sam said, is
seven hours a lot? I was like, buddy, like
what do you think happens over
here? Shocker that
Sam finds seven hours to be on the late
side. Yeah. Sam sleeps 13 hours a
night. Yeah. Yep. For sure.
He's a, we can talk about he's in bed
right now so we didn't have to worry about him maybe he'll catch us tomorrow morning on his 5am
run who knows oh good stuff as always so all right uh wraps up uh week 15 show reminder again friday
prop drop dago won't be there but you already got his ladder play of the week. Chase that.
Shahid up there to, you know, I'm with Connor.
It'll probably be in the mid-30s.
He's going to have a nice day with Andy Dalton propelling me to hopefully meet Connor later in the playoffs here.
Good stuff, as always, for Connor and Dagle.
I'm Ryan. We'll see you next time.
Thanks, everyone.
Yeah! Thanks everyone.