Move The Line - NFL Post-Combine Reactions & News! Winners and Losers!

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

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Hello and welcome to Move the Line presented by 444Bets. I'm Ryan Noonan. Back here to talk about more NFL draft nonsense. It is that time of year. Move the Line will continue to be your home for all things NFL draft, specifically NFL draft betting. After the draft cycle, we're going to get into all the other offseason nuggets, coaching changes, futures markets, much, much more.

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yeah not a whole lot i had a fun time at the combine for the most part um you know overall it was it was cool atmosphere it was just very surreal you know seeing all these famous people and like players are walking around everywhere you know you're just casually having a little little lunch and pennix and bo nicks walk by and then caleb williams is sitting there like it's very very surreal experience but um you know one in uh unbelievable amount of combine props thanks to thor proton debro a couple other people there i mean just insane information market basically so uh shout out to them and it was a great weekend absolutely love it our third chair for the nfl draft season again this year uh one of the best mock drafters in the space uh our friend here who also contributes mma content plugged in busy guy

i mean scott's working doing mma he's training mma fighters and grinding mock draft news and visits scott smith what's going on nothing much man uh went to the doc today got a little cortisone in the knee so uh you know another month i might be able to run this 40 but uh look at the combine season a lot of news and everything getting pumped out. I'll be in Vegas a couple of weeks for one of the UFC fights, and hopefully by then we'll have some more lines out. Maybe I can get some live bets in there for NFL draft, so it'll be interesting to see.

But look, a lot of stuff's coming out in combine. I'm looking forward to getting into it. Yeah, we're going to have a fourth here soon. More news on that shortly. Maybe three next week because I'm out of pocket a little bit, so we'll figure out what that looks like. But I'm going to add to the space a familiar draft name that you're familiar with. I think it's going to be able to add some market value

and help bounce some stuff off of the rest of the gentlemen here on the show. So I think it's going to be a great place to be. So don't forget to subscribe. Check it out. You can head over to 444.com right now. You can find my mock draft just released this morning. Again, you can also click on the betting tab. You don't want to get a betting subscription.

You want to get into Discord, get yourself set for 2024 football stuff, anything in the football speculation space. You're going to start playing, uh, you know, these are long stuff. You're going to be doing, uh, you know, best ball drafts. You want to get in our betting sub, um, get in our discord and get everything that we have to offer for, for, check that out. Four for four.com slash plans. Uh, all right, Connor, I'm going to kick it to you. Uh, you believe you've been done dirty, um, by a fellow a fellow Combined attendee with a large platform and podcast who told a story that did not shine the best light on you. So I'm going to give you the floor to start the show. Scott has not heard the story at all.

I have heard the story, but I'm going to give it to you and let you kind of, you know, you can speak your truth on it. Yeah, no, I've already gotten some messages about it. And I was planning on telling it on the show anyway. So it's not a big deal in terms of being out in public, but, um, obviously had, you know, been a pretty long day of drinking at this point, but there's a bar slash restaurant, uh, called prime 47 that most people go to like after hours. So it's like literally like a steakhouse, like Gary Jones is just eating there casually. And then, uh, after like midnight, they close the shut jones is just eating there casually and then uh after like midnight they close the shutters and they close the blinds and then like take out all the tables and everyone's

just like sitting there they're hanging out and like you know having a good time so it's like very very you know random groups of people that are just talking hanging out chatting that's where you hear a lot of the combine rumors so that's the place to be but basically what happened was so you know it was like two in the morning by this point, maybe two 30. I honestly, I don't really remember that. Um, Chris Allen, you know, great dude, uh, works for fantasy life comes up to me and is like, Hey man, like I'm going to go up to Steve Smith and ask for a picture. Like, I don't think I've seen probably 50 people at this point that are like, I would say very famous in the football space. We have not asked for a single picture for anyone. So I think Chris at this point was like, you know, Hey, I want to go ask for Steve Smith's picture. So I'm

like, okay, cool. He hands me his phone. So I'm like, all right. So then Chris walks over there. And so if someone asks you to take a picture, I'd like start following, but like kind of behind. So I'm like 15 feet behind him. Right. He comes over and he like, he's like talking to Steve Smith. I can't see what he's saying. So I go, so I'm like there and I like take a picture and Steve Smith looks up like after they were talking for 10 seconds and he looks at me and he's like, what the, I don't know, I guess I can cuss on our show, but he's like, what the fuck are you doing? And I'm like, looking around kind of like, like me, like I'm just taking a picture. Like, you know, he told me to take a picture. He's like, I didn't say you could take a fucking picture of me. And I'm like, Whoa, I'm like, all right,. Like, you know, and, and Dalton, Kate's a standard there.

He's like, yo, we just wanted a group picture, you know, like, and he's like, you can not have a group picture. And we're like, all right man. So I'm like, all right, you know, I'll I'm like, why this point? I'm like, sorry man. I walk away. And so like I, the way it's structured, there's like a couple of pillars and there's like the bar is right there. So I just started walking towards the bar and then like, I like look back and I see Steve just started walking towards the bar and then like I like look back and I see Steve Smith like walking towards the door and the bar like looking around

like, like he's like looking for me. Like, like you're like, I don't know. I was like so shook. I'm like, Holy shit. So I'm like, I like hide back behind the pillar and I'm like, well, like I do not want these hands right now. It's 2am. I am unreal drunk. And I was like, I do not need to be in a fistfight with Steve Smith over a picture that someone else asked me to take. I was like, that is just so ridiculous. So anyways, the version that was heard on another podcast that has significantly more followers made me look way worse. Like I was asked to take the picture of not creepily taking random pictures of Steve Smith.

I said what's up to him earlier in the night like we had like a casual 10 second interaction prior to that so it was not like that weird but he was very mad like he was not joking like what are you doing he was legitimately very mad so um don't know if he'd be consuming adult beverages don't know if there's some other factors in play with who he was sitting next to at the time um but it was wild i was not the experience that I was looking for in that instance, but it was fun. It's a good story. And I mean, maybe getting in a fight with Steve Smith would have been an even better story. But I mean, we know how that would have gone.

That would have been, I would have been looking a little rough for the show, I think. So what you're saying is you didn't actually hide from Steve Smith. You believe you were, the betrayal was that, uh, that you had basically been sold out that you had been hiding. Um, your, your boy, did you know anybody saying you were hiding behind a pole? Yeah. Well, no. Okay. So he said he didn't even include the part where he was like, Oh, like Connor was asked to take a picture. He thought I was just like with my own phone, like, Oh, like that's cool. You know, like taking random pictures of Chris and Steve Smith, you know, like that, that was not the like that's cool you know taking random pictures of Chris and Steve Smith you know like that that was not the case like you know there was hundreds of other people there that were more famous than Steve Smith that I could have taken pictures of

um and so that was part one part two was yeah it made me look like I was like running away and hiding which I certainly was not looking for interaction I'll say that like there was conveniently a pull right there that I was not in his direct line of sight, but I was not like, you know, like sitting there like hiding. So anyways, uh, it was a fun time. It was a fun story. And, um, I was just waiting. I think like, you know how after you drink, you get like the Sunday scaries and you're like, get like the worst anxiety about what happened the weekend before. I've never had such bad Sunday scaries, like refreshing my twitter feed just waiting for him or someone to cancel me or you know like just come at me over something i was like oh god this

is the worst but we survived right the other end can laugh about it i'm sure steve does still doesn't think it's funny but uh yeah we'll see scott you're gonna have to train connor make sure he's ready to go to uh combine next year just in case you know any hands get thrown his way if jake paul can fight mike tyson i mean i could fight anyone i mean jesus this is i mean get paulson to go with he's like six eight huh yeah i need to bring in that's the thing is we had you know silva was with us you know quote with us but never came out with us so you know if we had silva rolling with us maybe maybe we wouldn't have been confronted by a little you know 5-8 short king but who knows don't be the tough guy behind the microphone now in hindsight don't don't take swings uh

while you're you know i can do i can do whatever i want this is fun this is how this works right oh man so what about some other takeaways obviously there's some uh you know winners and losers coming out of the combine scott i'll let you uh i know're, you got your hands in the dirt here in terms of, you know, players that have helped themselves. Guys, some guys didn't compete because of, you know, medical stuff and they're waiting for pro days. What are some of the early takeaways? I know you've been grinding some of this stuff.

There's an edge that you feel like people aren't really always accounting for these team visits. Who's actually meeting with who while they're there on top of just the actual, you know, you know, shorts and t-shirt Olympics, I guess. Yeah. I think, uh, I think when you look at it, obviously, uh, Xavier Worthy kind of stole the show with, uh, the 40 time that, that he ran, there's some questions as to whether that's going to project him and boost him into the first round. Um, the number that I've kind of heard thrown around is, you know, like 10 might move him up 10 spots. Is that going to put him into the first round?

And it's possible that it could because you did have some other guys like Keon Coleman. I don't think he had the greatest combine with some of the numbers that he put up and whatnot. And then there's also his other teammate Mitchell out of Texas who, you know, also did have a good combine. Good showing that could be in the first round so I think when you start looking at some of that specifically with Xavier Worthy while the 40 time was great he's still a bit undersized as far as like height and weight so those are some things that are going to have to be taken into consideration but you know that that 40 time could push him there you there within that last five or so picks and maybe the first five in the second round. So he's one of our guys. The other guy that I think

really solidified himself is Brian Thomas. Talked about a little bit going into the draft, but he ran a 4.33 at 6'3", 210 pounds or whatever he weighed in at. And his production there at LSU was a little bit overshadowed by the league neighbors, but by all means, some people think that he has a higher ceiling than what neighbors might have here at the next level. So I think he solidified himself and I think you can start looking at him as early as, you know, 15 or so with some of the teams and what they need there. So those are two guys that I think, you know, really kind of moved their stock up, you know, where they could boost himself into the first round. I think Thomas,

you know, solidified himself as that fourth wide receiver in this draft going up, you know, maybe another five to eight slots of where he was projected at. But specifically, we talked about some of the meetings and combine interviews. And I think it's an underutilized tool when projecting where teams are going to land. Not every team drafts off of players that they visit with at the combine, but what some of these meetings can do, you can start to look at teams and see what type of players they're looking at, what positional groups they're looking at. If they're trying to decide between two, you may have two players that fit your scheme that test very similarly. And it may be something that happens in that interview room that that's the deciding factor. But the other thing is, and I'll mention two players that a lot of teams met with. And the first one is a guy that's kind of teetering right outside the first round. And it's going to be the defensive end out of Washington, Braylon Trice. You know, I counted like 12 teams that he had meetings with.

So he was a very popular player amongst some other teams, amongst some other guys. And then the other one is the defensive tackle who also tested well. And that's the one out of Florida State. I think his last name is Fisk. He met with a bunch of teams. Braden Fisk is a guy who, you know, a lot of teams met with. So a lot of teams are showing interest in him. He tested very well amongst all the defensive tackles. So those are two guys that I think you'll start to see. I don't know that Fisk will go ahead and break into the first round, but I think he's a guy that will start to get consideration and you'll start to hear that he's moving up.

Um, Breland Trice, on the other hand, he's a guy that I think could, you know, move into the first round. I had him in my first round mock, um, there to Detroit. I think he fits that scheme and what they want to do. And, um, you know, he's a guy who hustles and, and, you know, you know, he's, he's, he's put up the numbers there in Washington. So I think he's a guy that interests me. And based upon, you know, a lot of the combine interviews and stuff that he had,

he's a guy that I think that you can see break into the first round. I think that's an interesting note. Maybe a little bit of, maybe I'm, you know, just making too much of this too. But I also think when you think of those guys, because they are probably fringe back half or back end first round guys, early second round guys you also can just think about that like shift that we have from day one to day two where there's just that downtime teams reassess what happened they take a look at the board and maybe there's some teams

that can be looking to attack early in day two maybe jockeying position where they're at to be able to target again some of these defensive linemen some of these pass rushers that maybe make sense as a team need but maybe not necessarily where they're currently slotted in the draft so that could be that could be a thing there too uh so very interesting act scott will continue to grind that and i do think that it's look proves in the pudding man scott has been really good and final mock drafts uh for a number of years and you know finding some edges where people aren't looking, I think is a reason for that success.

So we'll continue to benefit from more of that information. Connor, good question in the chat from our friend, Jeff. Curious about your bench press reps at the combine. If you were to go there today. So two and a quarter, man i don't know you're i don't think you're putting up many uh you're you're muted so you got a second to capture that yeah no i don't i mean i don't bench press like i mean i just started lifting a couple weeks ago again for the first time that was not really my strength uh over under half rep yeah it's good

over under i don't know i mean i don't know i just have no idea like uh i've been doing a lot of push-ups lately that's been good yeah um which could correlate but i mean i'm about as thick as the bar so or as uh more than that is like as a rep so you know if that translates at all then maybe but uh yeah not a whole lot there so today's show is sponsored by drafting's newest product pick six it's a pick'em style platform where you choose players that have more or less of a certain statistical category like passing yards, rushing yards, points, rebounds, assists, you name it. The twist is that DraftKings has made it peer-to-peer. If you're a contrarian, you outsmart your opponents,

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round i mean he was expected to be a four fives guy he ran a four three nine um he was like you know i think the uh the thoughts about him was more of like a well-polished receiver who maybe is athletic and can do some things he is a legit athletic like i mean he really was like an 8.3 raz like you know ran in the four threes i mean that's like really impressive so i would not be surprised if he gets someone takes a stab on him at the end. Xavier Worthy, like there could legit be seven wideouts, I think, in the first round. And that's not including Keon Coleman. So I don't know, something worth noting. But yeah, let me bring up your mock here.

Yeah, I think there's a few there at the back end. Everyone wants to put a wide receiver to the Chiefs at 32. Could be a number of those. I think Pierce saw a lot of Florida. It's another name that i think really impressed and did some help for himself there um you can see i have you know a wide receiver that we haven't really featured yet uh 32nd to the chiefs there too but i think we're obviously going to start at the top i mean caleb look i think what's interesting coming out of the

combine is that we just didn't hear really anyone or any rumors or even anything really that sounded like not caleb so like i feel like again it's not a bettable price at this point for caleb at one but uh just you didn't really hear anyone that's you know making a spot for not to be caleb or any justin field stuff or anything like that so caleb feels um increasingly safe at number one we're going to continue to maybe disagree a little bit at two and three you guys are very strong increasingly strong and made the case here on the show uh or in our close to wanting to maybe bet uh on drake may to be number two feel like there was some good and again like scott called me out hey it's maybe lion season a little

bit that's probably fair it definitely is silly season uh but i do think that there was more conversations around some people feeling like jane daniels had out of the three quarterbacks he by far has the best 2023 tape of the class and it kind of ascended and people think hey it's maybe they're in their own tier where there's been a little bit more drake may hate a little bit so i have have Daniels two to Washington here, Drake may three. I think the wish casting call out is fair as a Patriots fan who wants Drake may to land there. But I also think there's a little bit there as well.

Scott, am I just buying into the McShays of the world? You know, some of the other athletic staff that's also talking about McDonnell Daniels going to, and may fall into three. Look, one of the things that did come out of the other athletic staff that's also talking about McNaught Daniels going to and may fall into three. Look, one of the things that did come out of the combine was that Jaden Daniels left on Saturday and he was not available. Whereas you had Drake May actually on the sidelines cheering on some teammates that were doing drills and stuff.

And so some of the look and some of the just non-participation has has rubbed some people and i would generally say that it's probably front office execs that have been in the nfl for a long time and been you know going to the combine and dealing with those things i don't think the nil you know era that that's come in had a lot of these players blowing off the combine is doing you know them any favors here with uh some of their front office execs my pushback on jayden daniels at two is essentially that you know, the many favors here with some of their front office execs. My pushback on Jaden Daniels at two is essentially that, you know, everybody's going to make out what he did, you know, here at LSU this year. And he looked phenomenal. There's no takeaway with that.

But, you know, there's some stats that come out. And, you know, the scouting is that he's a one-read quarterback. And if that first read's not there, he's taken off and going. And, you know, there's been a lot of that. You know, what he does on the run is elite, you know, and I think he's a little bit further ahead than what Lamar Jackson was as a passer. The issue is when you start to look at that heat map with Jaden Daniels is that it's all deep and it's over the middle. There's not a lot of success outside the numbers to the sideline. And I think you've seen some NFL, I mean, some quarterbacks go into the NFL that had similar heat maps tend to struggle.

You know, with Drake May, I talked about some of the connections with Phil Longo, you know, there at North Carolina, who's now at Wisconsin, who coached both Drake May and Sam Howell, big connections with Cliff Kingsbury. I just think that the connection is there and one of the other

rumors that i heard that was strong was that peters loves drake may i think washington's number one choice is if they could get up and get caleb williams some kind of way that that would be their number one choice but you know looking at things from some of the stuff that i've heard is that drake may is the player they're zeroing in on it too. Connor, anything to add to the Daniels-May discussion? Two, three. Yeah, I think what you were hearing was like Rich Eisen came out and was like Jaden Daniels is the number two quarterback.

The athletic piece that came out was like five of six GMs had Jaden Daniels as the number two quarterback. So I think I'm not like sold that it's May. I don't think quite as much as Scott, but I do, I am more confident than the market right now. I mean, we're seeing minus 115s for May. I'd't think quite as much as Scott, but I do. I am more confident than the market right now. I mean, we're seeing minus one fifteens for May. I probably have a closer to like minus one sixty at this point for May. I think Scott's probably closer to minus two hundred

range, it seems like based on our conversation. So and that's fair. Like I think last time we spoke, I was kind of like a coin flip, which was not reflective of the market. Again, May was in that one sixty, one seventy, one eighty range. And I think I've kind of since bounced back here because I think the same conversation happens with the Marvin Harrison Jr., Malik Neighbors, Roma Dunza thing. It's some teams will have Malik Neighbors, wide receiver one.

Some teams will have Jane Daniels, quarterback two. But the only team that matters is the Washington Commanders and the Arizona Cardinals for those respective positions. And everything that we're hearing so far is that, well, a lot of teams like that, but like you said, it was in the Athletic article too. It was like, Adam Peters prefers, you know, really likes Drake May. And so obviously we need more than that to fire on a bet, but like kind of the same thing with the Cardinals. I've heard now from like three, two public sources and two private sources that they love Marvin Harrison harrison jr so i mean again it's

it's one of those things where it all it's more important about the team not just like collectively of who would you have to in my opinion at least yeah that's fair i mean the marvin harrison stuff like he he handled the combine i get like an alpha basically uh yeah i think it's what he is just like look i'm not wasting my time trying to get ready for these nonsense drills that don't help me ball. I'm going to continue to work on that. I put the tape up. You know who my daddy is.

You know where to find me. Yeah, I think the neighbors over Marvin Harris and stuff, it's just too cute. It's just – I don't see it at all. And I think there's some more people too, that also like a doomsday as much, if not more than neighbors too. And I think that's probably closer than anything in terms of people getting to, to Marvin Harrison charges are really tough at five. I, you know, I took the easy way out on alts. You know,

you could sell me on another offensive lineman i also believe that they would love to trade out of that uh continue to you know add an offensive lineman down the board and add some more picks they are in probably the worst maybe competitively with the saints who just are annually in a tough salary cap situation uh the chargers are in a really tough salary cap spot for a new kind of management group to take over and run that so giving themselves you know more cost control players for a longer period of time is probably a great way to do it especially if they don't see a massive difference between say alt and some of the other offensive tackles um and i think that's kind of

been the case that i've been making the whole time is look i mean alt's a massive human being and went out and put out like an insane combine to run, like basically five flat at six, nine, three 25 or whatever. Like there was some impressive combine showings here this week. And all is definitely one of those.

So yeah, chargers are really tough. I went seven. I'll let you guys ask questions. Cause it's kind of typically my job to you guys when you guys mock. So I don't have to just talk and run through my mock. But I went a dunes at seven, which I know we've kind of talked back and forth about. Like, I really want to put him over neighbors.

I think he's going to be I think he might be better. I think he's going to be better in year one to come in into an offensive system. I think my angle here was, look, Bill Callahan is the offensive line guru. It's a case I kind of made earlier. I think they can take some other shots later, have the coach kind of coach up the young guys. They need a ton of playmakers. They have a second-year quarterback who struggled,

who needs some playmakers as well. So to be able to get a shot at one of these elite guys, they should probably do that in my opinion. So I'll give you guys the floor. Anything that you want to add? Any questions you want to ask? Or any thoughts on anything on the mock? The Joe Alt stuff is interesting. I've heard that they're, I think they're probably the most likely team to trade down right now.

Like the team, if there's one team that I had to say like 75% plus they're trading down, I think that teams could trade up for JJ McCarthy into that range. I heard that the Chicago Bears would be interested in trading to five for potentially one of the wide outs. Like both of those are very much the range outcomes. I mean, even, yeah, like, like I, it would not surprise me at all, to be honest, for a variety of reasons. So I think that that's an interesting one too.

Also they, they want like a right tackle instead. Like maybe they may not want like a left tackle. So like maybe alt isn't the best fit for them. And there's this tackle class is so deep. So what did you, do you know what like number you ended up with offensive lineman did you say seven in the first round more uh i didn't count i think there are seven though um okay yeah at least it's just a crazy offensive line class i mean these guys are absolute freaks yeah it's finding the next group i guess would be tough in terms of like i think there's a teardrop here maybe a little bit um i guess maybe jordan morgan or there's some interior

offensive linemen that are shooting up when you look at like daniel jeremiah's top 50 that like are just outside of of the first round um you know zach frazier from washington west virginia uh just outside the cut he's like 35th in dj's latest top 50 uh but yeah that's i think there is a little bit of a teardrop in terms of kind of these guys that i have currently mocked here they uh fuwaga talius fuwaga is also a right tackle um he someone had him in his market directly at five and daniel jeremiah has him as his best offensive lineman right now um that right now is plus 750 of fando plus 650 of draft kings i mean i, I'm not going to lie. I took a little desk pop, like a tiny little, little, you know, lunch money one, just because

I thought that that price is probably a little bit off. I still think that, I mean, all just like probably shouldn't be minus 200. That's what I would say. Like, I think he is probably the best offensive lineman, but I don't think he should be minus 200. And so I think, uh, Fulaga could be interesting there. Yeah. I'd actually echo some of the same sentiments

there with uh the chargers i've been hearing the same thing that of the teams there in the top five they're the most likely to move out um specifically because philosophically from a draft value standpoint they would be taking one of these tackles to play right tackle and that's just not where the value is at you know you're looking at drafting wide receiver, quarterback, tackle, and edge there. You know, so I don't know that the value for what they would want or to draft one of these tackles to play right tackle opposite of Slater is where the value is there for the Chargers there at five. So I think they are definitely an option to move back with one of these teams

that would be interested in J.J. McCarthy or, you know, one of these teams that want to come up and get one of these wide receivers. Looking there at seven, I actually like the move with Roman Madunze going there to Tennessee, and it's specifically because of the depth of the offensive tackles in this class. I think when you start looking at it and you have a direct tier with those top three guys, with Marvin Harrison being at alpha. There is some argument with Malik Nabors and Roma Dunze. Dunze, from what I understand, impressed everyone at the combine with his competitiveness.

There's some video and stories about him not being happy with his three-cone time until he stayed after until he could get what he wanted. Teams were very impressed by that, from my understanding, just with his competitiveness. And that actually carries over to some of the stories from in the season when one of his teammates got hurt. They said he was the guy on that team that was the leader that picked up the slack and got everybody to work harder and do those things. That's something that's going to resonate with front offices and in these combine interviews. And then to go ahead and back that up with what happened at the combine. And on top of that, he still put up good numbers at the combine. It's not like it's just all an effort thing, all a personality thing. He has the production to go along with it. He

measured out well. So when you start looking at it, you've got character, you've got performance, and you've got his athleticism, physical traits. I think that's going to go ahead and solidify him up into the standpoint. And I think when you're a team like the Titans, you start kind of adding up. You know, if we go wide receiver and we go tackle, what order will we go? Can you get a guy that's going to be as good of a prospect as Roma Dunza in the second round? The answer is probably no. So I think there's a very good chance that either them or, you know, even the Giants there at six could end up, you know, taking a Dunze and then addressing

offensive tackle with some of these deeper guys whether it be you know the the offensive tackle from byu or you know the other one from arizona there and early in the second round did you see that gainer too uh the little uh backflip he did when he was running through the thing that was pretty sick noon do you do you put any thought to jj mccarthy at six um for the giants uh a little bit i kind of wrote about it a little bit um it just is it's a really hard thing it's it's a tough spot for the giants they're in a really very difficult spot to decide what do they need to do because they either way they need offensive different difference makers uh for whatever they're doing there so there's the discussion of like

like a self-inflicted wound because like they basically double down uh when they shouldn't have uh just thinking like hey we made some late season wins we make the playoffs daniel jones is our guy and like he could have got away with you know one year deal so they just they have so many needs it's almost like the patriots like that patriots really like you hear and talk about the past you know maybe trading down or getting out of three because they have so many needs it's almost like the patriots like that patriots really like you hear and talk about the past you know maybe trading down or getting out of three because they have so many needs as well it's like yeah you do but no one has the answer doesn't matter what you have if you don't have the answer at quarterback so um i think you got to stay there and get a playmaker and you can get out of the daniel jones thing moving forward they've seen enough from daniel jones where i think he can be like slightly below league average quarterback. That's not like elevating you, but like

part of it is it's hard to evaluate when you can't stay on the field and stay healthy. So I did, but I didn't really consider it. Part of that is probably also my thoughts on JJ McCarthy, not necessarily being that dude per se, but at that point, this doesn't matter. Like there's, he's going in the top 10 um he's definitely going uh you know maybe earlier than we think uh maybe approaching the top five here but yeah i think the right thing for the giants to do is get some talent in the building someone you can build around kind of an anchor you got a bunch of dudes at wide receiver but no like the dude uh so i think you know having one of these guys i think really really helps so i think i would go

dunesay over neighbors personally i get why there's the neighbors um infatuation because he's bigger and more explosive i just think that the uh more i've watched of a dunesay uh and again you know i'm watching youtube clips and cut ups i'm not watching you know all 22 and know uh what i need to be watching specifically but i like what what I see from a dunes a translating to the NFL and probably hitting the ground running a little bit faster than even neighbors does. So yeah, I think wide receivers are right away from giants. Yeah, that makes sense. I think it's an issue though, that I just keep hearing like giants quarterback,

like Eisen came out and was like, they're done. That was like his number one comment. I remember it was like, they're done with Daniel Jones. And then I heard from a much more you know reputable giants reporter basically like you know he wasn't saying it but it was kind of like hinting consistently like hey they're you know in the quarterback market they're gonna add a quarterback like there's you know like it was a pretty consistent you know echo there uh for the entire time so i don't know it's maybe it's not mccarthy um you know but those there for the entire time. So I don't know. It's maybe it's not

McCarthy, you know, but those rumors continue to fly. They're in a good position to get them at six. If they don't think that they can say they're at six, maybe they trade up to five. If for some reason the Cardinals are finally trading back from four to six, I mean, maybe they trade up to four, which we've heard, you know, QB one through four. That was Diana Rossini said that in her podcast. She was talking to another GM. Like I, it wouldn me i could also see jj mccarthy being like semi will levis i mean like you know literally having all this steam to be a top five guy and then falling maybe not the second round but like you know 15 20 who knows um so i don't know i think there's a couple of different interesting points there specifically because you had him at nine to the broncos um and we talked

about it last week and scott said it too it's like the Broncos. And we talked about it last week. And Scott said it too. It's like the Broncos really going to go into the next season with Sean Payton with just Jared Sinema quarterback. Now there are rumors about them adding Sam Darnold as depth. Like that's what our boy Albright has been talking about. Like, I mean, Scott, you have any thoughts on this Broncos situation? Because I feel like it's just getting messier and messier and uglier and uglier.

And they just cut Justin Simmons. I mean, this is a disaster. Yeah, it's been a disaster for a few teams. You start looking at Von Miller and Buffalo and all the players that Buffalo is cleaning house with as well. So, like I said, I think the Broncos are in a tough spot. You know, some people are talking about this Russell Wilson deal maybe being the worst trade in history outside of Herschel Walker. So it's a tough spot.

I just don't see them. I know what Sean Payton was used to down here in New Orleans with Drew Brees. I think a big part of the reason why he left was because Drew Brees was leaving and he didn't like the quarterback situation that was following him. He inherited the Russell Wilson situation. J.J. McCarthy, there's still a lot of question marks about his profile as a quarterback with a small amount, throwing the ball like 15 times a game there in Michigan and some of the development he may have to do to go ahead and be successful at the next level. It's a tough situation. I don't know if trading up is going to be in the cards for them to get J.J. McCarthy going from 12 to

nine in this scenario. It's not that big, but they're already short on draft capital as it is. So it's a situation and I keep hearing Bo Nix connected to Denver. I think Bo Nix fits with some of the stuff that Sean Payton wants to do. I'm not saying that it's going to happen here at 12. And I'm not saying that it's positively going to happen at all. But I think the market's at 340 with Bo Nix being drafted by Denver. You know, whether it be a trade down scenario or whether it be early in the second round, I think that's the name that I keep hearing. They're connected to Denver. I think Denver would desperately want to move up, but I think if they're going to do so, it's going to be

to get one of these top three guys, not necessarily JJ McCarthy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the bonus thing, like that's, that's how wild some of these, you know, the quarterback position in particular can be like, you can have a guy that could definitely be top 12 because that's where the Broncos actual pick is currently. I made a trade here or you can have a guy that's definitely not in the first round. Like that's just quarterback is just as entirely separate beast. Michael Penix also had a good combine. Medicals came back. Good.

There's the arm talent is never a question uh that i think went well for him does that mean he's got what seven weeks like the drumbeat for nicks and pennix as they meet as they do pro days as they do some other stuff like i'm not against the thought of like that happening where we get one of those two we got a fifth quarterback uh in the uh in the back in the first round i think it it's definitely, definitely possible. This current mock draft is a really tough scene for the Vikings because they are really stuck. And that makes sense.

It's kind of why I had it. It's like, look, Denver can't sit at 12 and get McCarthy. If they really do like McCarthy, and we have heard a little bit of that, like Payton likes him. If they do have him you know in a tier above nix or pennix uh probably nix they would more than likely have to jockey in front of the vikings minimally to make that happen to connor's point they might have to do that and get in front of the giants at six so like that's definitely a thing that is a moving

moving target there which is which is tough because they don't have an answer. I basically am thinking I put Dallas Turner to Atlanta because I think that there's a chance Kurt's going to Atlanta so they're off the market from a quarterback standpoint. The Vikings are kind of left holding the bag. They have to make a free agent decision. Maybe they get into the Justin Fields market. Maybe they get into the Ryan Tannehill market. Who knows what that ends up looking like,

but kind of a tougher spot for them in the middle of their rebuild in adding attack or an edge rusher, knowing that they might lose Daniel Hunter in free agency as well. So yeah, that's kind of a tough spot for the Vikings if they are left holding the bag at the most important position. Go for it, Scott. I think the Justin Fields thing is starting to make more and more sense. I think when you start to look at Minnesota and specifically their salary cap situation, you look at what Mike Evans just signed for there in Tampa Bay and what they're going to go ahead and have to sign Justin Jefferson to. You're talking about maybe $30 million a year for a wide receiver,

which is crazy to think of in this day and age. But to go ahead and look toward the future for Justin Jefferson and then turn around and give Cousins another $40 to $45 million for next two years, that would put over $75 to $80 million in range of what they're paying for two players. And I just don't think that's possible. So I think you're definitely going to see Kirk Cousins signing somewhere else. I think the most heat has been with him going there to Atlanta. And I have started to hear the rumblings with Justin Fields being there, the quarterback. It would give them a year or two to go ahead and figure out what they're going to do with Fields if he would be the quarterback of

the future and kind of be a bridge to make that decision as to where they're going to address it and not have to give up more draft capital as far as first round picks to move up to get one of these other guys that are still going to have the question marks probably more than what justin field would have i'm uh i i'm feeling pretty good that kirk cousins is going to be the falcons quarterback next year um i mean everything that i heard was the cousins was going to test the open market like scott said um but you know there was already people reporting that he could be interested in the falcons there's some i guess schematic similarities that you know there was already people reporting that he could be interested in the Falcons there's some I guess schematic similarities that you know kind of make sense in some ways

they have Drake London they have Kyle Pitts I mean what basically what I heard was like they want to pass the ball way more they don't want to do what they were just doing and so I don't know like I think that changes the dynamic a lot like you know that changes the Falcons whole draft strategy there at eight I mean they can you know now that changes the dynamic a lot. That changes the Falcons' whole draft strategy there at eight. I mean, they can now comfortably take the best player available, I think, in a variety of ways. The Vikings, I think, puts a lot of stress on them. I think the Vikings could be in play for Justin Fields. We've seen them, too.

They have this weird—Kevin O'Connell has this weird obsession with randomly mobile quarterbacks. He tried the whole— what's his name? You know, the space guy, astronaut. He tried Josh Dobbs for a little bit. And then, you know, they were rumored with like basically every mobile quarterback for a long time for the last few years. So that wouldn't be surprising to me at all. I truly don't really know where Justin Fields goes at this point.

So maybe he winds up being Atlanta. But I think that there was like massive overconfidence there. He was minus 400 at one point to be a Falcon. And I think it probably is closer to the current odds specifically. So it's definitely something to watch for, for sure, with Fields landing spot. But I think that his value is just consistently falling at this point and more reflective of who he is as a player. Like, I mean, this is much more reflective of like reality, you know, not just Bears fans pipe dreams of who Justin Fields could be and, you know, him scrambling around and randomly winning games

from time to time, just because he's a fun player, but I just don't think he's a consistent player and a lot of the league doesn't value that. And just a note. Oh, go ahead, Scott. Just of note, looking at the combine interviews, it's interesting. The Vikings did meet with the top three quarterbacks.

I haven't been able to track down an interview, a combine meeting that they did with J.J. McCarthy, but Bo Nix is another quarterback that they met with. Yeah, so I think the, I mean, first of all, the Kirk to Atlanta stuff is like, it's not even, it's not, they're basically a straight line, right? Like it was in Minnesota the last couple of with kevin o'connell who came from the coaching staff of sean mcveigh the new offensive coordinator and play caller in atlanta

under raheem morris is zach robinson who just came from the rams and sean mcveigh right so like it is sliding into a system that like Kurt speaks that language instantaneously. That's a, a no brainer and fields is kind of tied and the bears are in a spot where like right now what they're getting from an offering standpoint, like not what they expected, maybe not great, like not super surprising to maybe what we thought,

but that all changes as soon as Kurt goes first and Kurt goes first fields doesn't go first. When we get the answer to Kirk, those teams that are still left in the market, all of a sudden go, well, we can't miss on fields. So if there's a team that actually is thinking about fields like

Minnesota, they are probably willing to pay closer. It's not, there's no first rounds involved here, but they may be willing to pay for some of the earlier stuff that, you know, maybe, you know,

second round pick, maybe some of the earlier stuff uh that you know maybe you know a second round pick maybe some of that conditional third next year whatever that looks like that they are not getting right now maybe can get once kirk is off the market first yeah non non uh mock draft note i bet drake london offensive player of the year at 150 to one uh yesterday yeah and so i mean that it's gonna be 50 to one when they get Kirk Cousins. You know, I mean, it'll be in the same range that A.J. Brown, Olave, like that kind of stuff were last year heading into the season. So, you know, definitely could do worse.

It's a long shot. I think it's like 125-1 now, 100-1. I mean, whatever, throw a couple bucks, you never know. Yeah. Look at that division we know is wide open, right? Like, you know, it seemed like no one wanted it at the tail end of the year. Like, we definitely didn't think it was going to be the Bucs at the start of the season. And, yeah, that division is different instantly with Kirk there in Atlanta.

So Bears with Brock Bowers at 12. It seems increasingly to me that the Bears can't sit at nine and have neighbors or dunes they fall in their lap it just doesn't seem like that's going to happen and look at bears offensive lines really not that bad they had a ton of injuries last year and just weren't really able to have their five starters but i feel like they're okay like that doesn't mean that they can't address the position but it doesn't feel like a glaring need i think more of the need that they probably have is on you know they could add some defensive guys, another edge rusher or something like that, or cornerback talent to pair with Jalen Johnson. They need to get more talent,

pass-catching talent for Caleb Williams. And look, yes, Brock Bowers is a tight end by position. And yes, they have Cole Komet on well like you just you'd be so dumb to pass on brock bowers simply because you have cole commit if you don't think brock bowers is the dude that's different you're probably also wrong but you just can't not make the position to play because you already have someone at the position it just makes no sense again like we can't really talk about it anymore, but like the Patriots a couple, like, you know, a decade or so ago had a pretty nice offense when they went back to back

tight end in the draft and both of them ended up being pretty awesome. One of them ended up being a serial killer. The other one ended up being probably the best tight end ever, but man, those two years with Hernandez and Gronk together, that team was awesome. And I know Colt Komet's not that dude. He's not one of those dudes. But Bowers is a slot receiver.

He's better than just an in-line blocking tight end. So Bowers would be really interesting to meet. Connor, what are your thoughts? So who's the serial killer? Is Komet the serial killer or is Bowers? Yeah, I mean, that's... I mean, it's not that touchy I mean it's all right um no it's I I think it makes sense I think also Brian Robin or Brian Thomas Jr we have a comment here Brian Thomas bust um I mean maybe but you know if you're trading

down I think that I think the Bears are almost certainly trading up or trading down. I'd be pretty surprised if they stand pat and take a tackle or something like that. They don't really need an edge. I mean, you can always use more edge, but there's way bigger needs, I think. So I think they either trade up and they get one of those three guys, or they trade down and get a Bowers or a Brian Thomas Jr. who ran the four threes. Again, his time was lined in the 4-4-5s. His projected 40 was like mid-4-4s, and he just blazed.

So, I mean, he'd add more to the offense immediately, and I think it'd be a fun team. And if they trade down, recruit some of their draft capital, which they just traded another mid-round pick away for the guy from the Bills, Ryan Bates, I believe, like an interior offensive lineman. And so, I mean, they have, I don't think they have a single pick after like the fourth round. Like they just like, at I mean, they have, I don't think they have a single pick after like the fourth round. Like they just like, at this point,

they have just a couple of top picks and then, you know, nothing. So it wouldn't be surprising to see them trade down a couple of times. Maybe it's the second round. Maybe it's, you know, later than that. But I think this nine pick, they're either moving one way or the other.

Yeah, I agree. I can see them moving up, like you said, to, you know, maybe lock in one of those receivers to put an opposite DJ more. But yeah, I mean, Bowers is tough. We talked about Scott last week, you know maybe lock in one of those receivers to put opposite dj more but yeah i mean bowers is tough we talked about scott last week you know when we were you're going through your mock too like bowers just really none of us think he should fall out of the top 10 from just like a blind resume standpoint but he's also just really hard to find a home i think that was some of the stuff we got out of the comp mind too is just teams have

a hard time kind of finding out where he goes i mean it, it is what it is with Brock Bowers. I don't think anybody's, you know, knocking him as far as the prospect that he is. It's just, you know, a positional value issue and then, you know, what priorities like teams needs. You saw Washington go ahead and sign a tight end, you know, and Zach Ertz here recently. And I think there's a few other guys there on the market that some teams are going to look at. So I don't necessarily know that tight end is going to be, you know, that big of a priority. But, you know, as far as Chicago, if they move down here and add another piece and let's talk,

like Cole Komet, you know, he came to the team in 2020. So, you know, another year or two, he's going to be gone. So it could be a seamless transition from Komet to Bowers as a primary weapon. Yeah, you know, another year or two, he's going to be gone. So it could be a seamless transition from commit to Bowers as a, as a primary weapon. Yeah. It'd be nice. I mean, man,

that offense changes pretty quickly. That offensive line could stay healthy. It was one of the best run blocking lines and leave the last two years struggled, you know, young guys up front. But again, just part of it was just the continuity issues.

They had so many injuries, just, you know, Jones was out and like and they just – the interior guys right away. Tevin Jenkins was out to start the year for a while. They just didn't have all five guys for very long, if at all. So cornerbacks are really tough. I have Quentin Mitchell, the first corner off the board here. It's a need for the Colts. And, look, Chris Ballard has been a traits guy more so than anything.

Not that Terry and Arnold went and had a bad combine because he didn't, but Mitchell sure as hell popped. Great size, athleticism, agility, all those things. He had like I think a 9, 8 something in RAS, which was I think Arnold was in the high 8s. So that's kind of been a thing for Chris Ballard, and there are teams that end up being traits guys. And I think Ballard is that too, and it kind of fits a need.

I could also see them being enamored, like Connor said, with Brian Thomas' size-speed combination there, adding an Alec Pierce upgrade opposite of Michael Pittman and figuring out Josh Downs in the slot and whatever else you do that could be that could be something that makes sense too you get into a lot of these spots here in the back end i know you guys experienced it as well where they have multiple needs for guys that are like positioned in this area so you don't even have to reach when you're mocking um you could do that with like you, Pittsburgh, Miami, Philly. All these teams have a spot where you're like,

oh, they can go offensive line and they can go corner. They can go edge or they can go offensive line. There's a bunch here that makes it really hard. To the point that Jeff had in the chat and the question, yeah, it'd be so much easier when we have the answers to the test post free agency and now we'll shift all this too. But again, like, yeah,

these mocks will become more accurate. We'll have more information. This process does do kind of that and narrow down the couple of options that the teams have, which I think is interesting. And I think pairing that with some of the work that Scott's doing with what teams are doing in terms of meetings and visits and all that stuff, I think matters quite a bit here too.

So yeah, I mean, I went Mitchell over Arnold. I think it's an interesting question. Nate Wiggins has like Emmanuel Forbes, and all that stuff i think matters quite a bit here too so yeah i mean i win mitchell over arnold i think it's an interesting question uh nate wiggins has like emmanuel forbes kind of vibes i couldn't believe that forbes was going to be a first round pick last year weighing like a buck 63 or whatever he weighed uh wiggins is not far uh behind that but he also ran like like a 429 or something so like he's gonna go in in the first rounds with his height too. He's like 6'2".

So yeah, that's definitely happening. So yeah, the offensive lineman, it's a really tough back half of the draft where I feel like it's just a labor of trying to get the many guys that you think make sense that are going to go in the first round. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, was there anyone that you left out that you felt like uh you know you needed to put in there i guess kool-aid's an interesting guy i think he's gonna fall out of the first round now at this point after he's a jones fracture getting surgery so

like yeah i had him at 15 16 i i i'm gonna leave him out next time is that was that in consideration for you or it wasn't consideration the one thing that is there is that like uh it's definitely a need for the lions and the lions could give two rips about what anyone thinks they're a big board supposed to look like or like they are whoever they evaluate is their guy i think kool-aid is going to be good enough to go for pro day for alabama which will help him and probably keeps him in play for the back end but you get to say that's the same thing with like cooper to gene uh you know he's tough uh you know enos rake straw the corner from missouri i left out like he's in that mix uh as well there's some other guys that are kind of right in there at the like cornerback position that i think are kind of like tough you know leaves um

yeah i mean i went xavier worthy over ad mitchell because i like the dude ran four two one like someone's drafted him in the first rounds um yeah but like that was kind of tough but yeah like i don't know like i was telling scott before we got going here too like i probably wouldn't have had uh johnny newton to the the ravens uh if i was you know doing this again uh but the ravens But the Ravens always, no matter where they are in the first round, they get that guy that just shouldn't be there. It happens every year.

It's like, oh, there was all this stuff with Hamilton's going to fall. They get Hamilton and they make him a star. It just happens every year where they get a guy that shouldn't be around. So Leo Latu is that guy for me. He has the best, I think probably the best tape especially 2023 tape of any of the edge rushers some teams are going to have him completely

off their board because he medically retired um you know before coming back and having transferring because he had a neck injury he as well had a nice little like medical report at the combine and things look good for him so i think that that probably helps him moving forward but like that's a guy that like fits a need for the ravens and i could see them just kind of sitting there uh and not you know the ravens just kind of back ass backing into uh you know an absolute elite edge rusher uh jeff wants wants to know keon coleman i think it'd be a first rounder yeah i mean like con mentioned him, he's in that back end there, like those receivers maybe at 28 to 32, that could be in there.

A.D. Mitchell's that guy. I really like Xavier Leggett. I know he's like a senior breakout, late breakout, which is like a no-no in like the profile, prospect profile space. He's just got some like A.J. Brown, Deebo Samuel vibes when you watch him play and that's a big dude who went out and like showed out at the combine um whereas like some of these

other speed guys feel more gadgety like the dude ran is the third heaviest receiver at the combine at 221 hit the third fastest 40 uh and had the second best vertical in the class. So, like, I don't know. There's just a lot there that, like, I don't know. I know that Brett Coleman had a nice piece on, like, some of the off the field stuff that he had in his life that have kind of been probably leading indicators is why maybe it was a late breakout. But that's a kid that seems like he's going to be a good football player. And, yeah, I mean, Worthy makes a lot of sense for for the chiefs but i just think he's probably gone before that to be honest yeah worthy replacing gabe davis would make a lot of sense i mean just

having like kind of that field stretcher potential um that makes sense for sure um and then i mean we're looking at coleman in the last like month is 47% of round one mocks. I expect that to dip a lot, a lot, a lot. Uh, whereas like the conky look at, uh, all the like combine guys worthy, uh, to all be included in the first round. Uh, so, you know, again, I think Keon Coleman's fine, but for me, he's kind of more like that wide receiver, seven wide receiver, eight range.

Um, now instead of like the wide receiver, five, six, uh, border. Yeah. What's getting interesting is when we get into like number of corners because i think um kamari lassiter is going to be increasingly in first round mocks uh as we move forward here i have him 25th to the packers uh a lot of tape guys that i respect really like the tape and we're worried they want to see what he did at the Combine. And I think he showed that he does have some great fluidity and athleticism based off of what he did at the Combine. He fits a need, I think, for, again, like the Packers are one of those teams where they can go corner or edge. We've seen the Packers go Georgia Bulldog heavy in the last few years.

I think that's a school where they're comfortable drafting and probably have some good connections there. Basically, they had two guys with Wyatt and Quay Walker a couple years ago in the first round. So, yeah, I think Lassiter is made a way into the first round and I think probably ahead of Kool-Aid, who's still dealing with that foot injury. So he's also a dog uh in the run game and i always have a soft spot

in my art for dudes that are you know at the cornerback position and when willing to put their nose and be supportive in the run game too um so you know cooper dejean has some of that too where i think he'll be able to show out that too when he shows up and start doing testing so yeah it's uh it's tough man uh it's. It's a tough spot. Like same thing, the Eagles were a tough one. Like, man, I could see them going corner for sure if they have a good grade on one of these guys. But they also like, how long does Lane Johnson play?

You know, they have some interior offensive line questions going on this year. You know, Guyton's a big dude. Can he swing into a guard position for a year? I'm not sure about that, but I could see them going either offensive line, a bunch of these teams, just offensive line corner at Drusher, and there's a bunch available.

Receiver. Yeah, hopefully free agency helps us clear up some of this. Scott, any last-minute notes here on kind of the back half of the draft? Yeah, I think one of the important things, especially with Philadelphia right there, is you talk about Vic Fangio and his connection there with Philadelphia. And then you talk about some of the players that are hitting free agency. Xavier Howard specifically is one of the guys I think they could target

who will be familiar with the system and what they want to run over there. You talked about Kamari Lassiter. The team that showed the most interest in him at the Combine surprisingly was Buffalo, who just cut Tredavious White. So that's another connection there that you can start to lean in on and start to look at. But look, there's going to be a lot of a lot of movement here, especially with a lot of these cuts that you saw here recently over the last couple of days and free agency. I think that lens will start to get more in focus over the next week. And we've got free agency, I think, officially starts on March 13th. I don't know what the actual tampering period or whatever when they can start doing.

I know they can start talking to him a little bit earlier. But I think, you know, you're going to see some of these trades. I think, you know, Cousins is going to be the first domino to fall. And shortly after that, you'll see Fields. And that's when the real action is going to be the first domino to fall, and shortly after that, you'll see Fields. That's when the real action is going to start. You're going to start to see some of these teams and some of these picks start making a lot more sense. Even here on the back end, the one team I want to hit on real quick is Pittsburgh. They're at 20. I know that they're

going to go ahead and entertain Russell Wilson. I think he's going to be able to basically come in at like a vet minimum. But what I've heard is that they're willing to give Kenny Pickett, you know, one more year and to figure out. And specifically, like Pittsburgh's one of the teams I don't – look, they get their draft picks leaked very, very early every year. The two team people that I have heard consistently linked to Pittsburgh

is Amarius Mims, who you have there at 20 out of Georgia. They would love for him to go ahead and play that right tackle spot. And then the other player that I hear is very high on their board, going all the way back to the senior bowl, is Quinion Mitchell. I heard that they have him as the top cornerback on their board. I think the two cornerbacks you have here early, Terry and Arnold and Quinion Mitchell, are going to be the ones that are going to be the top two off the board.

I think you're going to have some movement there in that three to five, three to six position at cornerback. But specifically, those two players to Pittsburgh are ones that I think you need to pay attention to and can maybe start to get penciled into a lot of these mock drafts. Yeah. Putting Georgia Bulldogs on your ends after trading up last year and drafting Roger Jones,

who had a decent season. They're tough too. They're another team where I was back and forth with like, look, they had a home run with, with Joey Porter Jr. In the second round last year, the offensive line,

like part of it last year was like, Oh yeah, they, they had continuity. They're bringing everyone back, back but not everyone like no one's really good like dan moore played almost 600 snaps last year uh and out of all the tackles in the league that was 58 tackles i think they played at least 50 of their snaps he had the worst pff grade of all the tackles so like they need to address the position even though they had jones they added jones last year like i don't think that takes them out of the mix for a tackle and yeah

mims makes a ton of sense a mountain of a man who ran really fast for a dude that is like just absolutely ginormous so um you know my mims offensive tackle one dream is dying at 30 to one but like the dude's gonna be he's a freak athlete uh i think there's a lot of projection there still but yeah i think that uh he makes a lot of sense so good to hear so that's why we got scott here so all right gentlemen any other questions kind of that you had from uh from the chat um let's see here we had mostly just jeff talking shit about chicago and the bears so it's uh it's always good you know love that he said that the Bears are gonna script their first round pick every year so they're gonna

do it twice this year um I'm excited man I'm excited to bet the Bears uh to make the playoffs you know again it looks like the draft of Caleb Williams so they're gonna get something for Justin Fields as long as they pick a wide receiver if they pick an offensive lineman I don't know I mean it's not quite as much juice but I kind of agree with you i think they're kind of fun so especially the vikings are getting getting rid of cousins i mean i think there's a lot more downside there than uh you know what we're looking at suddenly a three playoff team division with the lions and packers and bears yeah i mean and it's not like the lions are infallible either i mean they won a lot of games but it's you know they're not quite as dominant as like, you know,

a San Francisco or anyone like that, you know, the division. So, I don't know. It's kind of, I'm excited for this draft. I'm excited for, you know, Chicago to maybe be good again. You know, it'd be fun. You can head over to 444.com and read my thoughts on each of these picks. You can also read the previous mocks by both Connor and Scott asott as well you head over to 444.com slash plans scoop the betting sub and check out all the things that we have to offer for you for the 2024 season again subscribe before you leave thumbs up uh

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