Move The Line - Prop Drop: Week 11 Player Prop Bets
Episode Date: November 20, 2021Move the Line Presents: Prop Drop ... The newest sports betting show from 4for4's Ryan Noonan and Connor Allen, plus third co-host Alex Selesnick. On this week's episode, Connor, Ryan and Alex discuss... their top Week 11 NFL player prop bets. Move The Line Prop Drop is sponsored by WynnBET. New users who sign up for a WynnBET account will get a Risk-Free first bet (up to $1,000). 👉🏼 4for4.com/WynnBET Get 4for4's Betting Package for our Picks & Tools 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/plans Follow 4for4 on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/4for4football Follow Move the Line on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/MoveTheLineNFL Follow Connor on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/ConnorAllenNFL Follow Ryan on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/RyNoonan Follow Alex on Twitter 👉🏼 https://twitter.com/PropStarz Visit our Website 👉🏼 https://www.4for4.com/ Join our Discord 👉🏼 http://discord.gg/4for4 Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 👉🏼 https://www.youtube.com/4for4football 4for4 Betting Strategy Hub 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3hm39cw 4for4 Betting Picks 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3hJTtqX 4for4 Player Prop Tool 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3A2UKBx 4for4 Prop Stat Explorer 👉🏼 https://4for4.co/3Ab3c1u ___________________________________________________________________________ 0:00 Week 11 Prop Drop Intro 2:17 Connor Prop No. 1 3:25 Ryan Prop No. 1 4:51 Alex Prop No. 1 6:39 Connor Prop No. 2 8:40 Ryan Prop No. 2 10:25 Alex Prop No. 2 12:26 Connor Prop No. 3 14:09 Ryan Prop No. 3 15:33 Alex Prop No. 3 18:43 Connor Prop No. 4 20:46 Ryan Prop No. 4 22:54 Alex Prop No. 4 29:17 Viewer Props Q + A :22 Prop Tool Bet of the Week 58:03 Week 11 Prop Drop Outro
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Hello and welcome to Move the Line, Prop Drop show, Prop Drop presented by WinBet.
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I'm Ryan Noonan, joined by always by my two favorite fellow Prop D gens.
First, my favorite underling is Connor Allen.
What's going on, Connor?
You know, not much.
It's a good week to be great.
You know, that's all I got to say.
It's a good time to be great.
It's always good to be great. That's all I've got to say. It's a good time to be great. It's always good to be great.
Also, joining us as always in this space, my man, PropStars, Alex.
What's good?
What's good, Ryan? What's good, Connor?
It's Friday. I like this slate. I'm excited.
I found some props that I'm really digging.
I'm ready to chop it up.
That's good. I got the green hoodie on for trips to the garden.
So just get us in the right mindset.
We're locked in and ready to pick some winners this week.
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On Wednesdays, Connor and I bring on a guest from around the industry
to go game by game.
This is obviously the prop show.
We're getting our hands in the dirt from a prop standpoint.
We're going to go around the horn, share four props each,
and then it's your turn.
We want to take your questions, anything you're sitting on the fence about uh perhaps we've moved the number live in show and you want to get some feedback on whether
or not to hit it we would love to take your questions so jump in the chat and fire away
we will get to as many as we can typically we get to all of them uh before the end of the show and
then producer sal will keep us going with our prop tool pick of the week he's continuing to fire off winners for us as well we should all be tailing those uh we absolutely love
that part too so uh let's get to it gentlemen um good week last week and uh let's continue to build
on it connor get us started man let's jump right in what is your uh your first one yeah my first
bet is uh rashad bateman over 37 and a half. I mean, I was a bit surprised to see this,
considering he's seen six or more targets in all of his games since he started.
He's gone over 37.5 receiving yards in three of his three straight games
and now matches up against a pretty unimposing Bears secondary.
We have Bateman rejected for 55 receiving yards.
I'd play this up to, like, 40.
I just think that this is like this line should be like 45
if he's going to see five six targets there's no reason to think that he shouldn't be getting you
know 40 45 receiving yards at least so i think 37 has a bit disrespectful to be honest for a guy
like bateman so i like the over here yeah i tailed you on that one too i like that quite a bit
you're right on that was on my list of ones to watch for this week we basically saw
very little sammy watkins last week so he even though he was back It was on my list of ones to watch for this week. We basically saw very little Sammy Watkins last week.
So even though he was back, there was a little bit of trepidation.
Is he going to come in and kind of steal that role?
And Bateman seems to be the clear number two there in that offense.
So lots of questions on the defensive side for the Bears.
So pretty nice spot.
I think wheels up for the Ravens here.
So I like that quite a bit.
My first one's in the same game.
I got Justin Fields over 34 and a half rushing yards you know this is obviously climbed over the last couple of weeks you know we were getting it in the low 20s for a little bit but I feel
pretty good about it still um last time we saw him it was hard to not feel that we were watching
really like grow and gain confidence live in real time, which we absolutely love to see.
And then obviously we know historically young quarterbacks coming back
after the bye, we feel like he's going to be building on that as well.
And the Ravens are a difficult matchup,
but I think there are some things here that line up for a good spot for Fields.
The Ravens blitz a ton,
which is going to naturally increase the scramble rate for fields.
But more importantly, they play man a ton.
They play man at the third highest rate in the league.
And we typically don't see that a lot against rushing quarterbacks.
And it just makes sense, right, where they turn their back to the quarterback.
It creates more running lanes for him to scramble, to get big plays.
And he's topped this mark in four straight
games. He's averaged eight attempts over those last four games. So I think as a six-point dog,
they're going to really have to lean on him to get creative here. So 34.5 is about seven yards
short of our projection for him. And I think our projection is even a little light. So again,
if he's going to get eight to 10 attempts, I think we get to 34.5. I wouldn't say comfortably, but I think we end up in the 40s here.
So give me over on 34.5 for Fields.
Alex, your turn, man.
Kick us off.
What is your first bet of the week?
Yeah, my first one is a little bit of a Connor Allen special.
I'm going Randall Cobb under three and a half receptions.
I saw this at minus 140, a bit juicy,
but I think it is worth
the squeeze in this particular instance. Yeah, Cobb has had caught four catches in only one of
10 games this season. That's a 90% hit rate on the under. He's eclipsed five targets in only
one game this season. Even with Lazard out or when Devontae Adams was out in week eight,
the targets have not trickled down
or been dispersed to Cobb when other receivers are out in Green Bay's offense.
Yeah, Cobb also hasn't exceeded 50 snaps in a game this season.
In the game that Lazard and Adams missed, which was week eight, both Juwan Winfrey and
Equiminious St. Brown both out-snapped Cobb in that game pretty significantly, too.
Yeah, the Packers rank 28th in situation neutral pace
and don't tend to be aggressively pass-happy.
The Packers like to play slow.
They just don't run a lot of plays.
Yeah, I also think Cobb just looks a little bit a step slow.
He may have Rodgers' trust,
but there is just no reason or data to expect his snap camp
or target share to increase,
especially in a neutral game environment and especially, you know, with Lazard out of the lineup.
Minnesota ranks eighth in defensive passing DVOA.
They've been really tough on opposing wide receivers.
Yeah, I'm fading the veteran slot receiver.
I think four catches is just a huge ask for him with his role, target share, and snap count in this offense.
I like it.
Make a good case there.
Nine out of ten.
Pretty – could have stopped there.
You know, it's a little bit too high for Cobb.
I think we're overrating him with some of the injuries there in the lineup.
Connor, number two.
Yeah, my second bet of the week is Zach Paschal under 34.5 receiving yards,
or 31.5 now at this point.
Last week we were actually on this number in our 4-4 discord at 40.
I think it's worth playing again at 34.5 after he caught just two passes
on two targets for nine yards.
The Colts now match up against the Bills, number one in pass defense TVOA,
number one in explosive pass rate on the season.
And they've allowed the fewest receiving yards to opposing wideouts this year by a good margin.
T.Y.
Hilton returned last week, but only played about 60% of the snaps, yet still out-targeted
Pascal 5-2.
I'm one of the people who believes that targets are generally earned and not just given by
playing.
So if T.Y.
Hilton is coming out there playing only 60% of the snaps and earning five targets, I think that, you know,
another week back removed from his injury,
I think he's probably been playing a little bit more
and also continuing to out-target a guy like Pasco.
So Pasco still played a bunch, but he wasn't seeing targets.
So for me, in this spot that's way tougher with probably decreased snaps,
I think we're probably seeing him in like the two to three target range again.
And so going over 30 yards is, I mean, he has to catch a big one for that to happen
so you know barring something like that happening i like the under here a lot and i would play this
down to 30 receiving yards we projected at 25 i still think that's honestly a bit too high
like a different way to bet against uh the the bills defense right we've been you know
often targeting quarterback unders the last few weeks this is kind of a
a different way to do it.
So Pascal's been a guy that's like when he gets there,
he gets there by a yard or not much.
So like,
it's,
it makes sense.
The T Y.
The Wentz under was just too low already.
I mean, it was like at like two 22.
So right now,
I mean,
Wentz has like been good enough and that the,
that the Colts have shown enough game planning that, you know,
I think there's potential that he could be okay in this game and probably wind up like right in that range.
So for me, he's not bad enough to consider taking the under at like a low number like 220.
Yeah. Yeah. Good call there.
Next one. This is probably my favorite on the board, to be honest.
This is just way too low and I'm surprised it's hung out there.
It's Joe Burrow over 268 passing yards this is available on draft kings at minus 115
obviously off the field stuff of the raiders has been an issue for the last couple of weeks and it
started to trickle down uh onto the field and i think we've seen this with the raiders the last
few years right like they get off this surprisingly hot start. We're all kind of caught off guard. And then they just slowly melt into who we thought
they were going to be come November, December. And maybe we're at that time of year, but no team
in the league is allowed a higher EPA per drop back over the past three weeks. They have allowed
the fifth highest rate of explosive pass plays during the same time frame. And the Bengals have also shifted dramatically from kind of a run heavy early into a neutral pass rate over expectation team
to the fifth highest pass rate over expectation over the last month, which we absolutely love to
see, which makes sense. When you look at the weapons that they have, like, why wouldn't you
just be passing all the time? You know, these guys are all healthy. They're all, you know,
young, talented guys,
and we're seeing them start to lean on that too. Point spreads kind of oscillating back and forth
between a pick them in one point. So that tells us that we're expecting a game that would stay
neutral from a pass standpoint. We shouldn't get into like this really run heavy script in the
second half per se. So that makes me feel encouraged here too so
rested recharged after the the bye week after losing two straight i think this is a really
nice bounce back spot pretty soft landing spot for the passing game for the bangles
over 268 and a half for burrow absolutely love this play so one of my favorites on the board
this week uh proppy number two buddy what's next, I like that a lot as well, Ryan.
So, yeah, my next one is a fun one,
and it is Debo Samuel, longest reception over 24.5 yards.
Yeah, Debo has been phenomenal this season.
He has hit this prop in eight of nine games, including six straight.
He is first among full-time players in yards per route run.
Yeah, just to give you an idea of how excellent he has been this season. The Jaguars, on the other
hand, have allowed at least one 25-yard catch in all nine games this season, and a total of 16
over those nine games. Jacksonville ranks 31st in defensive passing DVOA. They give up the third most production to opposing number one receivers as well.
The Jags are giving up 7.6 yards per attempt, 10.6 yards per completion.
They're going to have a very hard time stopping what's been a pretty explosive 49ers offense
now that Kittle and Ayuk are fully healthy.
I actually prefer this prop to Debo's yardage prop, mainly because I think the 49ers will
need, they will not need to throw the ball a lot
to beat this Jacksonville team, but I do expect them to chunk all day long against this defense.
I think it's also worth noting Elijah Mitchell, who is obviously the 49ers' leading rusher,
is doubtful. That may put a little more emphasis on San Francisco's passing game. Yeah, Debo has
just been a big play waiting to happen.
He's fairly healthy.
He's been practicing all week. I think he's a great bet to go over a 25-yard reception
at least one time this game.
I love it.
It's kind of, you know, not one we typically get into.
So even a little sexier than normal.
Debo's been unbelievable, dude, and made the good case there too.
Yak monster.
Yeah, I like it.
I like it a lot. I lot take a look at that one
too um all right that we're uh halfway home front nine done turn the corner here don't forget drop
some uh success for us um drop some questions we have some twitter questions to get to but if you
are hanging out with us in the chat don't be be afraid to fire off some stuff and we will get there sooner than
later.
Connor T off from number 10.
Where are we at,
buddy?
Yeah,
I know you like this one as well.
So Cole Beasley under 46 and a half receiving yards.
I think that this is a good,
like five to 10 yards too high.
You know,
last week we saw Beasley play only nine snaps due to rib injury.
He was like the fifth wide out that rotated in for the Bills.
And then this week, a lot of that had to do with a rib injury.
And now this week he still today was in a non-contact jersey in practice.
And he's barely limited.
He's just getting work on his own, like on the side.
So you're looking at a guy that they're probably not going to be using a ton
going forward, at least like right now until his rib is healed.
And so, you know, even if he sees a little bit more work,
like I can't imagine that he's going to be featured very heavily.
So I like the under here at 46.5.
We have a projection for 30,
and I think I would play this probably down to 40, to be honest.
Yeah, so I'll give you a little inside baseball here.
I had Beasley on the sheet for the show.
I had the Beasley bet in the book.
I hadn't clicked it yet.
I was on Twitter.
I searched Cole Beasley.
I was just making sure, like, you know, I'm just looking at stuff
just to make sure there's nothing that I'm missing here
because I looked way off.
And then I get the notification that you had put it in our chat.
I'm like, all right, well, yep.
That's, you know, some validation.
I'll take it off the sheets.
It's no longer mine, but I'm betting it.
And it is Connor's and I'm aligned on the Beasley thing for sure.
So definitely with you on that one.
I think it's a good play.
So that is a good transition because I am tailing our Sam Hoppin here,
our data analytics manager for the 4 for 4 and BetSports team.
He is the brains behind our prop tool,
also writes a weekly prop article for us at 4 for 4 each week.
He and I were talking about this play earlier today,
and it is Adam Trotman over 25.5 receiving yards.
I like this one quite a bit.
Targeting tight ends against the Eagles is something we want to do whenever we can.
They are dead last in DVOA against the position.
They've allowed 74 receiving yards per game to the tight end position.
That is a crap ton of receiving yards to tight ends.
They are – talked about it a lot here,
they are pretty predictable as far as the defensive scheme.
They play a lot of stuff that leaves the middle of the field wide open,
a lot of deep cover two stuff too,
which is kind of why we like to target running backs
and tight ends against them.
And Troutman has seen six targets in each of the past three games
with Trevor Simeon under center.
He's hit this mark in four of the past five games with Trevor Simeon under center. He's hit this mark in four of the past five games.
Now we got Kamara out.
So again, less competition in the passing game here.
That does not hurt.
It's not a sexy play.
25 and a half yards on a tight end that, you know,
is running about 60% of the, you know, routes on snaps this week.
But 25 and a half is not a high bar to cross.
So Troutman over 25 and a half minus 115 on draft kings
i will take it uh prop stars number three
number three indeed yeah i'm sticking with the tight end position
our loyal listeners of this show will recognize that we tend to
ride a player's train for like it seems like four weeks at a time
and then we move on to another
player so yeah it was Pittman earlier in the season now it's become Pat Friermuth I am rolling
with this guy again over three and a half receptions found this at minus 110 on MGM uh yeah
Friermuth has been excellent this season he's run a route on 76% of his dropbacks.
22% target share this season.
He's had at least four receptions in four straight games
while averaging 7.25 targets per game.
He played 54 snaps last week compared to Ebron, who played 29 snaps.
There was some questions coming into the week.
How much would Ebron or would he potentially limit some of Fryer-Muth's snaps?
That was not the case, but so ever he did not really eat into his target share.
Either Ebron finished with two targets on the week.
This is also a very good matchup.
The Chargers rank 30th in DVOA to the tight end position.
Through nine games, they've allowed 46 receptions, 590 yards.
We saw Mason Rudolph target Fry fryer moose a lot
last week so yeah even in the event that ben doesn't make it through the covid clearance
i'm still comfortable uh with this prop at this number i do think it seems likely at least the
the latest port reports have suggested that big ben is going to try and play uh yeah if big ben
does play i like this even more he has great chemistry
with fryer muth uh yeah uh fryer muth leads all steelers players in pff grade uh he's the six
highest uh rated tight end uh just buying into these heath miller comps they are super real uh
big ben looks to fryer muth in big moments um i was surprised actually this wasn't set at 4.5 and especially
not having it being too steamed up as well. So yeah, I absolutely love Fryermuth again in a very,
very generous matchup against the Chargers over three and a half receptions.
Chargers 30th in DVOA to the tight end position. So really nice spot again for Frymuth. Good spot to redeem himself after that late fumble that pissed away
in a potential winning field goal there.
What an abysmal 10 minutes of football that we were subjected to there
with the Lions and Steelers last week.
It was gross.
Buffs in my Deontay Johnson bet too.
Yeah, it was just –
We needed that overtime to hit the Friar Moose one.
So, yeah, the fumble sucked, but I was happy to get the overtime
because I thought we were dead on it.
I know.
I know our group was on it too.
So, you know, it was you give and you take.
But, you know, I did a little bit of giving last week.
It's all right.
It's all right.
We'll make it back.
He did not tail us there on the fire move, so he was hurting.
It hurt him.
Yeah, it's all right.
Connor, take us home, buddy.
Yeah, we got a comment here.
Connor's sipping a high noon in, which is great.
I'm drinking a high noon.
That's pretty clever.
I like that.
That's funny.
My last one is Darren Waller under 71.5 receiving yards.
You can find this at most shops right now.
I know that this is a little bit tough for some people to swallow
with how good Darren Waller has been in his career so far,
but he's gone under this number in seven of nine games this season
and seven of eight games in this week one explosion.
Our projections have him at 55 receiving yards in the Bengals,
allowed just the eighth fewest yards to opposing tight ends,
ranked ninth in adjusted fantasy points, allowed to reverse the position.
I mean, I think this number should be closer to like 65, you know,
low 60s, to be honest.
And I get that maybe this could be a back-and-forth game,
but even then, like, it would take, you know,
a big reversion of what we've seen, you know,
lately from Waller to kind of hit the over here.
Yeah, the Bengals have probably one of the most underrated at least safety groups in the league so like i
know it's a nice that's a nice matchup uh defensively to slow them down there so more and
more i'm getting into that one i'm considering a play on the bangles this week but uh it's been a
light sides week for me too and uh especially after some of these just bloodbaths,
just double-digit favorites just losing outrights.
Prop-heavy week for me too.
I think I made one play on a side this week.
Your closing line value checks were not cashing.
The bank was rejecting them after the last few weeks.
Listen, you son of a bitch.
You always want closing lines.
You always.
What was your one play this week out of curiosity?
Can you reveal that to us, Ryan?
A side?
What did I play as a side?
I played Carolina earlier today.
Okay.
I have three total bets.
One of them is an under-team total on the Washington football team.
Yeah.
It's not even a Cam thing.
It's mostly just a –
Super Cam, maybe.
It's mostly just the football team's beat up.
And I think there was a Super Bowl last week.
And, yeah, there's a lot to like there, I think, on the Carolina side.
Defensively, they've just been – they're good.
They can take out – they can get a ton of pressure.
They can take out a dude like McLaurin.
So, yeah, all right.
Last one for me here is uh you know
i just dropped troutman i think that's probably troutman's first appearance on the show i'm fairly
confident that this is byron pringle's first appearance on the show definitely give me byron
pringle over 28 and a half receiving yards again minus 115Kings. Just one week of sample, but it was a noticeable shift in how the Chiefs used their secondary receivers last week.
McCole Hardman, not benched, but definitely relegated to a complementary role.
It was basically Pringle in two receiver sets. He ran a route on 65% of the Chiefs dropbacks last week against Vegas.
Hardman ran a route on just 33% of the snaps.
That is a significant shift from a season high rate of Hardman's typically 63% of the season. So 33% massive drop off there.
And Pringle delivered, caught four of his five targets, 46 yards in the score.
That was in a spot where that game was basically over early in the third quarter.
Now we're in a spot where we got a 57-point total, less than three-point spread.
We're expecting fireworks back and forth in this game.
Seems unlikely that we're going to have a spot where someone gets out of control here
and runs away with it.
And Pringle's a dude with a 14-yard average depth of target.
So even if he happens to slide back into like the 35%, 40% range snap-wise,
he still can get there on two catches.
This is a very, very low spot here.
I expect we see they're spending a ton of time with Diggs,
taking out Tyreek, or at least trying to you know bracketing him you're gonna
see a lot of man coverage one-on-one for pringle and i think that there's something to this um he
is a guy that i think the coaching staff trusts plays a lot of special teams they get him in on
punt returns occasionally when you know hardman muffs won every third game so i like pringle
low low threshold again 20 and a half yards in a game that i think is going to be pretty high
scoring so i think he maybe starts to get a little steam dfs too so pringle over 20 and a half I like Pringle. Low threshold again, 20.5 yards in a game that I think is going to be pretty high scoring.
So I think he maybe starts to get a little steam at DFS too.
So Pringle over 20.5 yards, pretty low threshold.
Alex, take us home.
Yeah, I like the Pringle spot quite a bit.
I think the verdict is out regarding McColl-Hartman experiment has been largely a failure. We've just seen him be ineffective.
I agree.
I think that shift has been,
it should have happened a few weeks ago.
I anticipate that, yeah, continuing to happen.
Pringle continuing to kind of his role to expand in the Chiefs offense.
So, yeah, I really like that quite a bit.
My last prop and my favorite prop that I have given out maybe today,
I'm going to actually make this a 1.5 unit play as well.
That is Nick Chubb over 82 and a half rushing yards. Just a complete head scratcher why this
number continues to open in the low 80s. Chubb has just been phenomenal this season. He has cleared
this in six of seven games. He's averaging 103 rushing yards per game.
Chubb ranks second in the NFL in next-gen success rate,
fourth in breakaway percentage, first in elusive rating.
This guy is just phenomenal.
Yeah, Detroit ranks 29th in rushing DVOA.
Teams are running the ball 31.1 times per game versus the Lions.
It's the second most attempts per game in the NFL.
Detroit's allowing 135.7 rushing yards per game, the third most in the NFL.
The Browns have the third best run blocking line, according to PFF.
This just seems like an absolute smash spot for Chubb.
I am just puzzled why this line did not open in the mid to low 90s.
Yeah, also Anthony Schwartz, I believe, was ruled out.
Donovan Peoples-Jones is also questionable.
There are just very few healthy bodies in that Cleveland wide receiver group.
I just think Chubb is going to get 18 to 22 carries and just run roughshod
over a completely overmatched Lions defense.
I absolutely love this prop.
Nick Chubb over 82 and a half rushing yards, 1.5 unit play.
Love it.
I hit this too in our Discord.
Probably this is the main one that I was looking for all week just to refresh,
just to see, like, is it going to open in the 80s?
Is it going to open in the 80s?
Because they just keep doing it.
But, you know, even if it was like 80, 89, Edward wants to know,
what would we take it up to?
He's seeing it at 84.5 at 114.
Our projections are a tad over 100 yards but again like to alex's point we they're
gonna run they are 12 and a half point favorites at home we're dealing with a little bit of weather
here we might have like mid-teens winds and a little bit of light rain we got tim boyle
quarterbacking the lions on the other side like Like, I mean, I don't know.
I would take it comfortably anywhere up to 90.
Like, what do you think, Alex?
Yeah, I couldn't agree more, Ryan.
I mean, if this game gets out of hand, it's because Chubb has just run all over the Lions.
So, yeah, I'm comfortable with this well up to probably 91, 92.
I also have him projected for over 100 yards.
The only reason I see him not just even eclipsing that number is a scenario
where the Browns are up three touchdowns in the third quarter
and decide to play Dernis Johnson more.
But, yeah, Chubb is going to run all over this Lions team.
No team likes to run the ball more than Cleveland does as well.
That is their formula for success. Take the ball out of Baker's hands. Yeah, this is just an amazing
spot. And yeah, Chubb is frankly probably the best running back in football, the best pure runner
right now in the NFL. So yeah, very comfortable playing this into the upper 80s, lower 90s even.
We have Chubb at 100 yards and that's with dearness johnson projected
for 10 carries so he's still we're still getting there with chubb um so yeah i'm with you there i
think it's a lovely lovely lovely play and eventually at some point they will you know
start to raise this one but like man this you would think this would be the spot right like
detroit like what are we dealing with here so yeah i i love it uh hot take i think you know tim boyle is going to want to be better than
jared golf here how about that he might have bigger hands i was surprised tim boyle didn't
end up on uh i guess his yards is only like 180 right like 180 i mean like i couldn't do it i
mean yeah he was some of the projections i have access to had him up to, like, 250,
or projecting him up to 250, which I found funny, but obviously.
Yeah, I know. I think if I had more confidence in Cleveland, I mean,
they're good, but I don't know.
Banged up and, yeah.
Yeah.
We got Boyle for 224, so, yeah, it's probably.
I mean, 200, I'd play the under But like 180
180 is low yeah
And how much
It's not like you can play a lot worse
Than what we've seen out of Jared Goff
Yeah
He could probably just
Tim Boyle could just throw to like Swift every play
And probably get 180
The thing is though Is that you saw last week that during the during
the the bye week that dan campbell took over play calling for anthony lynn and they decided last
week that they were going to run 70 at the time you barely saw any targets in that game for swift
last week and he got 33 carries like if i'd imagine he's not that's not a one-week thing. He's probably going to try
to put it in his belly over
and over again. That gets harder to do when you're
not in a neutral game script, which kind of
happened last week, surprisingly. We don't
think that that's what's happening here, so probably
more pass to Boyle, Dicking
and Duncan. I think some
good, the best options
here for attacking that pass game would be
unders on the wide receivers. Because those will still come in at like normal-ish numbers uh and kind of trying
to figure out who tim boyle is and who he likes to target uh and trying to attack those like the
opposites of those guys could be good especially but maybe soon yeah probably looking at the right
wide receivers with the deeper a-dots as well.
Yeah.
It's hard to imagine Tim Boyle just coming in and driving the ball down the field.
So, yeah.
All right.
Question time.
We got some from Twitter.
And then, again, continue to fire off in the chat.
Let us know.
I'm going to try to pop them here in our chat so I can pop them on the screen hopefully this works um you can put them on you can put them on i guess you can comment
in our own chat and then post yourself this is from the awful gambler seems each week uh some
key players get rolled out very late in the week how do you handle capping games and game theory
with the uncertainty?
Yeah, Connor, you want to speak to that?
I know that we've started to – in Discord, I know you're pretty active on Sunday morning trying to react to some breaking news
and some unders that we can catch.
I think that's actually one of the biggest edges still left, honestly.
So like today – I mean, this is a great example.
So today, Amar Cooper was ruled out.
There was a good five minutes where Michael Gallup's receiving lines
were still up at 40.5 on points bet.
And so I set an alert in our Discord saying, like, hey, hit this over.
Because I know DK and FanDuel removed it within like 10 seconds.
They also have the Fantasy Life app notifications or whatever they're using
and are very clearly just sitting on their computer just like click the button.
All the lines are off and locked.
But points bet, I don't know what they're doing.
I mean, they left it up there for a good five, six minutes.
And so, you know, you're able to get over on that.
And for enough time to me to put the notification out,
bet it myself and for a lot of our subs to still get it.
So, like, but then just even on game days, like,
I think being able to take advantage of if a starter's out,
hitting a backup, running backs, overs, or just like that's the absolute best.
You should be putting like two to three units on that uh because those are always like the worst lines receivers
i think you can still go like one unit like for an example i discussed points bet moved it before
they took it down yeah i mean they're just they're asleep at the wheel like they just weren't paying
attention then because connor got 40 and a half i got 42 and a half a minute minute and a half. I got 42 and a half a minute, minute and a half later. And then a couple of
minutes later it was off. So like, yeah, thank you points, Pat. So, you know, understanding what
you have access to, and obviously you want to have access to as many books as possible. And I know
that that's not necessarily reasonable for everyone, but I would say, you know, if you have
a preferred book, I get it, go there first. Or, you know, know if you have a preferred book i get
it go there first or you know even if you have more in one book like i would take in split at
some places to just to have the optionality of being able to get down there are things that uh
you know vary from book to book and then in this instance it matters even more because
this is the difference between getting a bet down and not getting a bet down. If you just said, you know,
I'm in a state that has five books.
If I just said,
I'm just using FanDuel DraftKings,
I don't get the Gallup number,
but we know that PointsBet is slower than those two books.
Thank you,
PointsBet.
I know you're not watching,
but if you are,
I don't happen to be in a state with WinBet.
Hopefully WinBet is,
well,
hopefully WinBet is doing whatever they need to do but if
they are slow let's act accordingly and be able to move fast so like yeah as much as you can that
you have little sprinkles in different places that you can get some action out last bit for me here
on this so there's like rankings in terms of what books move the slowest generally it's like dk
fandle the top move fastest and then there's like a lot of really – it gets worse and worse from there.
Points bet is one of the slowest.
I think BetMGM is pretty slow.
Fox bet is really slow.
But then beyond that, there's local bookies like price per head shops
and those kinds of things, which are very common.
A lot of people bet on non-legal states.
Those on game days are just absolute bonanzas
because those guys, they're like people
in Costa Rica who don't even watch
the game. They don't understand what's even going on.
Setting the line. That's like
if you really can't get down on anywhere else,
that's where to get the money down on.
Good stuff.
All right. Let's see here.
Some love for Propstars.
Love you too, buddy.
Lode Meister, that's a good name.
What's the note?
Do you and AP discuss props when you are in the garden?
I mean, always in the garden pregame, right?
That's right.
Yeah, the facts of life are discussed in the garden.
It could be anything from props
to
current events, life.
We just go in there and meditate. It's just
a stream of consciousness.
Everybody's welcome to just present whatever
information or argument
you'd like. It's a very
inclusive environment.
Any good garden should be. Love it.
Next question. Cleveland has cleveland had a
running back go below their rushing total at all this season be curious to see that number
i mean probably uh without backtesting it but i get the point i think it's a nice
it's a nice number this week um we're definitely on that in a strong strong way
oh go ahead uh yeah no just to jump on what you you said, just based on the research on Chubb,
he went under one time this season.
I guess it was the 82-yard number.
I'm not sure what.
I think he had a 64-yard game mixed in there.
So, yeah, I would imagine that game he was held under his rushing total.
But, yeah, obviously Cleveland is just – they run the football as much as any team in the NFL.
They have an absolutely phenomenal run blocking line
or just O-line period. We've seen Dearness Johnson flash a ton. I think he is definitely a quality
backup running back at the very least. Probably could be a starter for a lot of teams. Yeah,
we know Kareem Hunt is obviously a very good running back as well. But yeah, even if you take
Nick Chubb away from this offensive line, I just want to reiterate that all the advanced stats and metrics,
and I think the eye test would agree with this as well.
This guy is an elite running back,
and then you get to pair him with arguably the best run blocking line in
football.
And we just see just, yeah, frankly, the most dominant running team in the NFL.
So yeah, it's pretty cool to watch.
I think there's also like you noted that that um some like you know whatever he's
gone over his line a certain like number of times i think that like with that kind of research that
it's a little bit uh tough to gauge because of it's like what did you get the line at whether
it's closing line or what it's not at a lot of times people like oh well that's factored into
the line you know because of x uh but at the end of the day like the closing line is shaped by
the market and if the market is getting down on is shaped by the market. And if the market is
getting down to a number like Chubb 82, and then the market closes at like 95 or 92, that's a lot
different. And so obviously your holistic trends are going to look a lot different using those
numbers than what we got it at earlier. So I would just be careful just for the group,
because I know there are some smart people who've done that kind of analysis, and I think that some of it's not always foolproof.
Yeah, we've been talking about doing some of that in the back end to validate projections and things like that, but that's kind of the crux of the discussion, right?
Is it when it opens and when it closes?
Same thing, our projections will shift based off of you know news that comes in you know
projections are obviously they're always being updated i mean they you see time stamped uh on
the site when they're updated last so like it's it's it is a fluid discussion i also just want to
point out too i know a lot of people you know track their own bets and track the results here
uh one thing that i've started doing I think is really beneficial that anybody could take advantage of and benefit
from is tracking the closing line value of a bet as well.
It's going to serve as like a really good,
you know,
indication to where you're at in the market.
If your instincts are correct or yeah,
if you're,
if you're finding,
you know,
potential value,
that's a great indicator where the line ultimately ends up closing.
So yeah,
if you're tracking your bets,
yeah, I would say to look at closing line value
is definitely something you want to keep track of.
And you can learn a lot from both about yourself as a better
and yeah, just a number of things.
That's a great point.
I'm going to be a company man real quick.
We're working on it to get it in the prop space.
But over on BetSperts,
you can download the BetSperts app to track your bets.
BetSperts actually, as far as sides and totals go, not only tracks your bets, but it tracks your closing line value on there, too.
So you can see what percentage of the time you beat the closing line, which is super helpful, too.
I know Connor doesn't value closing lines, but, you know, in the marketplace, I'm joking.
I'm joking. I'm joking.
He does. But, yeah, that's the marketplace, I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. He does.
But, yeah, that's a cool thing, too.
We're implementing props there soon, I hope.
Probably not this season, but by next season for sure.
But it's a great place where you can go on and track your bets
and get all of that done for you where you don't have to do.
If you're not a big, fancy spreadsheet guy, that is a nice thing to tell.
My man, Dan.
Dan, I love you. Shout out dan dan i love you shout out dan
dan shout out dan go work on your calves buddy there he is right on cue look at that
i think that's great closing my value thanks dan you know telecon have you seen my
closing mind value damn come on man
uh i want to answer this because your name is kind of cool.
A. Nuna?
I don't know.
What show are you watching?
I need help ASAP.
Please, Pittman and Ingram for JJ.
I don't know who JJ is.
JJ Taylor probably, right?
Justin Jefferson.
Like Jared Patterson.
JJ Taylor.
I think it's Jared Patterson actually.
It is Jared Patterson, J.J. Taylor. I think it's Jared Patterson, actually. I think it is
Jared Patterson.
Connor just pulled off a mega blockbuster
for Jared Patterson
in his fantasy league. He mortgaged
a lot of future dynasty
picks and made
a massive, massive push
to acquire Jared Patterson.
Big time.
Forgive me, Connor, for shoring the Washington football team this week
because I know that that's bad for J.J.
or for any of you boys in Patterson.
I imagine he'll have a big game here against the Panthers.
I don't know.
I don't know anything about your league.
Settings, roster construct.
It's so hard to answer those questions when people like
ask you it's like yeah and you need to know now it's friday night urgent and the trade is going
to be rescinded if it's not accepted at the next just just accept it like who cares it doesn't
matter just accept it dude just for the f of it the rbs it's. It's fine. You're fine. All right.
We got some other ones up here if we scroll up.
Yeah, we got some other ones.
Don't rush me, Connor.
All right.
JDM, a couple questions.
First, he wants to know about Connor's boy, Tua, completions and attempts
this week. We have...
I don't know what his numbers are in the marketplace.
We have Tua
23 completions on 36 and a half attempts.
Um, anyone have that number?
I have a take on this or go ahead, Connor.
Go for it now. Go for it. Go for it.
I gave this out in my article play. Uh,
I absolutely love this over 33 and a half, um,
or for two over 33 and a half, or for Tua over 33 and a half passing attempts. I know the number is now up to
35 and a half, I believe. But yeah, it just seems the books are not accounting for how much this
Dolphins team and Tua is wanting to throw the ball. Yeah, they've become a high volume passing
offense. Obviously, we did not see that whatsoever really last year.
This season, completely different.
It's been like a seismic shift in philosophy and Tua is throwing the ball quite a bit.
I know he's gone over in three of his four full games that he's played. He's averaging, I think, over 38 passing attempts per game in those games,
just relying on a lot of short area completions
to the running backs, to the tight ends.
Wide receivers are running a lot of routes close to the line of scrimmage.
He is just dinking and dunking a lot.
He also gets a Jets defense that ranks bottom last past defensive DVOA,
so it's obviously super advantageous, plus a matchup.
I do expect him to just pass the ball a lot.
Myles Gaskin is not an effective running back.
They lack the personnel to run the ball effectively, in my opinion.
So, yeah, I just expect Tua to continue to just rely on that short passing game
that's been relatively successful for Miami,
and they should have plenty of opportunities versus a really bad Jets defense.
Good takes.
Connor, anything to add to that?
I'm guessing you probably –
No, that was great.
I know other smart people also play the 33.5, and I looked at it,
and I thought that it was a good bet.
I just didn't react.
The other part of JDM's question is on Josiah Taguera, over 12.5 yards.
No strong – our projections are 15 yards for Taguera, over 12.5 yards. No strong take. Our projections are 15 yards for Taguera.
I don't have any leans.
Do you, gentlemen, have a lean there?
I mean, he played the most snaps he has all season, 34%.
He saw three targets last week.
I mean, it's kind of tough for me to disagree.
Maybe he's ascending.
You know, I guess that's a proper word.
It's tough for me to love the over there, but it's definitely also hard for me to like the under because
you know i would have normally liked an under on a guy named josiah deguera uh you know anything
but uh i mean he's playing more so i can't really take it mercedes cook or mercedes lewis looks
cooked as well so yeah he's like 38 years old or something. Dan, I'm sorry.
Your calves are beautiful.
You're a beautiful man and we love you and appreciate you.
Genuinely, you're fantastic.
So thank you, Dan, for all you do for us at the 4 for 4 team.
Josh wants to know about Tyrod Taylor under 237 yards.
This sounds like an appetite that you would have here, Connor.
Is there some love in the tie rod short market?
Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of into it.
The issue is, though, is a lot of this category of bad quarterbacks,
unders, also has to be against a defense that I think is really good.
So the Titans defense has been much better than they were earlier in the season,
but I'm not sure that I would qualify them as, like, a really good squad.
We got the cat in here again?
Yeah.
Let's go.
This is Margo.
Oh, Margo.
Okay.
Why is the carpet wet, Todd?
I don't know, Margo.
So, yeah, I would like the under on Tyrod, to be honest.
I think Tyrod at 237, I mean, that seems like a lot just to be honest.
But negative game script, I would lean under.
Titans have a pretty ferocious pass rush.
I know the secondary had been playing poorly,
but they had been playing better, a lot better actually recently.
They're getting healthier.
And, yeah, their front is pretty tenacious.
The defense has actually, I think,
made some pretty significant strides over the last few weeks as well.
So, yeah, I'd be under on that as well.
Still not buying it with the Titans. I don't know. I don't know what to do. They're such a puzzling
team. We talked about it on Wednesday. They're 8-2. They play the toughest schedule in the league. They have
cupcakes remaining on the schedule. I don't know. Pats minus three
next week, though. Look ahead. Go grab that. Pats beat them
next week. Josh wants to grab that um pat's beat him next week uh josh wants to know is that
it does qualify as a connor special i think it's a perfect bet josh good job um let's see we got a
uh three-parter here from ap picks uh first question would you rather play uh rather a
player destroy his over or have a sweat-free under?
Connor, sweat-free under?
No, I think that I bet a lot of unders because their sweat-free unders are great,
but there is nothing better than watching a player just demolish his over.
Like you feel like an absolute king when you call that.
There's nothing better than hitting an over, in my opinion.
There are many sweat-free unders.
That's the premise of the under.
Even like I had Kyle Pitts' under, and you'd think on surface that would be like one of the most sweat-free unders. That's the premise of the under. Even, like, I had Kyle Pitts' under, and, you know, you'd think on surface that would be, like, one of the most sweat-free unders.
Even with two minutes left in the game, Patriots pitching a shutout,
like, I was still sweating Josh Rosen throwing the ball to Kyle Pitts.
Like, there is no such thing, really, as a sweat-free under,
even in, like, some of the most, you know, really good spots. And yeah, like you guys both said, and Connor said,
when you have an over,
I called DK Metcalf earlier this season and he had it,
I think on the first drive. Yeah.
Just to catch a 70 yard touchdown bomb, that feeling,
there's few that compare to winning a bet in that fashion that early,
you know, two minutes into the game. So, yeah, I love unders.
I know Connor really loves unders.
They are really profitable plus EV.
Yeah, just crushing an over very fast.
That is, I think, one of the ultimate feelings.
You know what I thought was a sweat-free under?
Davis Mills with 90 passing yards entering the fourth quarter.
I also thought that Deontay Johnson, under 73.5 receiving yards,
with 30 receiving yards in regulation
was a sweat 300.
These are things that I didn't even
think were possible at that point.
And just my loss.
I also thought Ricky
Seals-Jones over a three and a half
catch.
Three at the half was a sweat
free over. There was like six minutes left in the half.
I was like, oh, we're going to get like six catches.
This is nothing.
This is easy.
It was a half yard short of the yardage.
That was brilliant.
That's right.
I almost doubled down.
I was very close to doubling down, and I'm so glad I didn't
because I would have been upset.
That was heartbreaking.
Even more.
I had a multi-unit play last week, one of my only ones of the season,
on DeAndre Swift's combined yardage.
And I was over with, like – he went over with, like,
10 seconds into the second half.
I saw that you had that 88 and a half yards, right?
Beautiful.
I had his rushing total, or his rushing attempts, which was nice.
I want to see after the points bet, that bad boy.
I wish i did
yeah i wish i made that like a two-unit play uh ap picks uh next question baker mayfield under 27
and a half passing attempts i mean off the top without looking at it that feels pretty good
uh alex laid out some of the you know injury issues going on there. We're obviously bullish on Chubb in the game script there
that leads to a run-heavy situation.
We have him a little bit above that, but anyone have a lean there?
Yeah, I'd personally lean under in that spot.
I don't have the numbers in front of me,
but I do know in scenarios where the Browns win,
coupled with when the Browns are heavily favorited, his passing attempts are drastically lower on a per game average compared to,
you know,
neutral game scripts or games where the Browns are underdogs or,
you know,
they're competitive.
But yeah,
in scenarios specifically where the Browns are like a touchdown or more
favorite,
Baker does not throw the ball a lot.
Yeah, I anticipate them just running all over the Lions.
He won't need to throw the ball a lot.
So yeah, I absolutely actually like this under quite a bit.
It is a low number.
I do think that is being factored into the number.
So I don't want to say it's obviously not a play I'm making right now.
But yeah, I would definitely lean under on it for sure.
All right.
Connor, any thoughts there?
No.
All right.
Let me see what else we got here.
The third part of it is Daniel Jones, over 242.5 passing yards,
Monday night's game against the Buccaneers.
Obviously a pass funnel spot there. We have
Daniel Jones projected at 247 and a half, not a bettable edge for me. But again, if the receiving
crew starts to get healthy, you know, there's some reports of Sterling Shepard was at practice today.
Looks like Gallaudet should be back. They had a bye. Hopefully Darius Toney is fine. They're
starting to get healthy. Saquon's back in the mix. So you can sell me on the Danny Jones over there.
Do either of you gentlemen have a lean on that one?
I agree with your take, yeah.
But I would caution that the Tampa Bay secondary,
while they were just absolutely abysmal in the first five,
six weeks of the season, they have played a lot better recently.
It isn't a large sample size, but, yeah, I think they were, you know,
a matchup that was worth really targeting for opposing quarterbacks
and yardage totals.
But, yeah, this Bucs defense has definitely kind of found their stride
a little bit, playing a lot better over the past four weeks or so.
Yeah, starting to get healthy.
That'll be an interesting one.
Feels like not a
bettable edge per se uh let's see jimmy g longest completion over 37 and a half yards
also we get minus 120 i'm guessing was that bad isn't it also thoughts on when or if trey lance
starts a game this year 37 and a half feels like a big one. I know that Alex is on the over at 24.5 for Debo,
but like a 37.5-yard completion feels pretty rich
and hard to kind of get a feel for.
Either of you have a lean on that?
No, I mean, I guess it has to be Debo.
I think that if you're going to play the over,
I'd rather just play Debo's over because, I mean,
who else is going to get there?
I mean, Kittle maybe.
I mean, I guess Ayuk potentially, but it's – I don't know.
They run a lot of, like, middle –
they just don't run a lot of, like, deep routes.
I mean, they run a lot of, like, short and middle of the field routes.
And, like, I mean, that puts them puts them more in like the 20 ish range.
Like, I think that like Debo is like a good bet to,
I think all of them are good bet to get like a 20 yard catch, but 40 is like,
I mean, they need to, they needed something deeper, you know,
break a bunch of tackles.
Yeah.
I'm guessing the minus one 20 part on the question is the price there,
which at that point, like just bet the, just bet the Debo one for 12, 13 yards.
If you were there, it feels like the smarter play.
Let's see, our buddy GF Sports Trading.
Any thoughts on Najee Harris?
Feels like the rushing yards is too obvious.
I will say that we have seen a shift the last couple weeks with the Chargers
as far as their desire to stop the run coming out of the bye.
They have been a little bit more willing to throw seven guys in the box
and try to do that.
Obviously, Harris has a pretty high number.
I don't know what it is off the top of my head here.
You can find it.
But I think it's in the high 80s or 90s.
Do you guys have a lean on Harris here in this matchup on Sunday night against the chargers. Yeah. I personally
am not sure that I can see a scenario where Sandy or excuse me, Los Angeles kind of puts Pittsburgh
or yeah. Pittsburgh's in a little bit of a hole versus this Chargers offense. And, yeah, I know that they've been a balanced team,
but we did see early in the season Pittsburgh, you know,
somewhat abandoning the run a little bit in scenarios where they were trailing.
So, yeah, I know this game projects to be somewhat competitive.
But, yeah, I'm not sure that this is a spot where I really want to back Najee.
I know it isn't obviously a good matchup on paper,
but I would agree the Chargers are making some adjustments.
I do think it is a large number for Najee.
So, yeah, I would lean over.
But, yeah, I'm not sold on it just because I do think that I could see a couple scenarios
where the Chargers, you know, kind of force Pittsburgh to have to throw the ball,
particularly if Mason Rudolph is under center.
I like it.
Gronk, under 29.5 receiving yards for Gronk,
who is trending as active here.
Be interesting to see if he is fully unleashed.
Again, still another week without Antonio Brown.
Either of you gentlemen have a lean on Gronk?
Nope.
I haven't looked at him yet.
I am out on betting against or for Gronk until the playoffs,
in which case I'll be betting for Gronk.
But I just don't know when he's going to show up
or when they're going to decide it's time for him to be him.
We just don't know that. So I don't know if his figures will be show up or when they're going to decide it's time for him to be him. And that we just don't know that.
So it's going to be way too high or way too low.
And his first week back to, you know, just having a bit of a layoff.
Yeah.
No, it makes sense.
We have him at 39 yards, but I think that's probably fairly generous.
And yeah, stay away from me.
I don't think it's
a necessary chase. I'm going to try
to do this. Let's see if this works.
This has been asked. People would like
us to put
a summary at the end.
See if I can post this here and see if it shows.
It's not. It's going to be very...
No, it's not going to be.
We need banners. That's what we need.
Just know that it's multiple Jarrett Patterson plays all over.
All the Jarrett Patterson plays.
Yeah, all lines.
I mean, he's even potentially the emergency quarterback.
We could see him getting some reps.
Yeah, over half a passing yard is, I mean, my favorite bet of the week.
Yeah, just empty the clip on Patterson anywhere you can find it.
Just get it in there.
Sorry, I tried to do something different.
Maybe we'll try it next week with a banner.
Worth trying. We do have a couple minutes left
though, and it is time for
the prop tool pick
of the week from producer Sal
who just continues to
print. We should
sometimes we laugh when it pops up,
and really what we should all be doing
is immediately tailing so sal hit us with the player prop tool bet of the week
all righty here we go man i really thought about playing this i did too actually uh marcus johnson
uh now in a bigger role here for the titans over 34 and a half receiving yards on draft kings
available at minus 110 our projection for marcus is 46.2 yards nice value there um yeah i mean kind of a big play guy bigger guy we've seen that
it's just a guy that pops for his team and then gets cut and released eventually i don't know
had a couple nice games for the colts last year early in the season um connor you said you were
thinking about playing it uh yeah i mean he he has like he started like three games and whenever he's played
over 60 of the snaps he's basically been like he saw like five or six targets and all those he just
went off for like five or a hundred last week um and now again no julio good matchup i mean 34 and
a half is definitely too low you know my biggest concern was that like they just weren't gonna be
throwing enough but you know i think there's a lot of variance with a play like that
on, like, the over of a guy that's 27 years old, career journeyman.
Like, I mean, you're not betting on a guy who's good.
Like, he's pretty much shown that he's, like, just a guy his entire career,
if not less than that.
So, yeah.
So, for me, it was kind of a stay away.
But, again, i think it's a
good bet i just i couldn't pull the trigger myself ran a route on 63 of the team dropbacks last week
was targeted on 28 of those routes run that is very healthy usage for a guy that's kind of come
out of nowhere um yeah alex any thoughts here uh no, I would just agree with Connor. It does obviously seem like a very plus matchup.
Like what I saw last week,
Houston's definitely susceptible to allowing a lot of big plays.
So, yeah, I think this is solid.
The reality is if we're on the fan tier, Connor,
and we both kind of were earlier, and Sal puts it here,
and Sal's been winning.
He should probably bet it.
Winning big.
Consistently.
I think maybe Sal has like maybe two losses all year.
He has the hardest ROI on the show.
Yeah.
Sal messages us every Sunday and is like.
Let's just know.
Like halftime though.
Yeah.
Cause they like get cashes every week at halftime.
He's barely sweating his out.
We should have turned to Sal.
Do you want to have an over or an under that you don't have to sweat like sal's the only one that has a really good feel for
what that uh what that looks like so uh easy dubs easy game for sal so uh if you were watching for
the first time looking at this player prop tool uh this is available with a subscription over at
four for four uh again uh we have cut our price drastically we're going to have something looking very similar here
for the nba season very soon this runs with our projections here to give you an understanding of
where the value is you can see you can select your states you can select the book all the stats that
you want to display if you happen to have some alt lines or something that's maybe on an offshore or
you got a bookie like Connor
who shakes you down every week and gives you different numbers. You can prop it in here
and see if you're still getting any value online. Great, great tool. Again,
444.com slash plans. You want to definitely check that out. And again, NBA coming soon.
And we're going to have one of these bad boys just like this. Awesome stuff.
As always, fellas, I appreciate it very much.
Continue to print.
I'm going to have to chase this Marcus stuff because Sal is just kicking butt, man.
He's teasing us.
Printing.
All right.
Anyone else have anything else for the folks before we wrap it up?
Appreciate all you viewers.
You guys are the best. We love you. Keep coming the more the merrier jared patterson's gonna have a monster
monster game it's jared patterson season i swear if jared patterson blows up and has
22 yards this week i'm getting a a jersey. I know they're available.
They've got to be available at NFLshop.com.
Wasn't Gordale Patterson on Washington at some point?
We can just recycle that.
The next time a Jared Patterson prop drops,
I'm just going to bet the over just out of –
Automatically.
Yeah, auto over.
You should reach out to PointsBet because you can create your own the points bet because they'll you know you
can create your own prop see what they see what they set give me jared patterson rushing yards
i'm looking for the result lines it'd be good for the brand connor we can share it on social
you know every week every week you're the jared patterson guy now not sure how my brand developed
into high nudes and jaredson, but here we are.
Tough place to be.
So like Alex said, we really appreciate it.
Thanks for hanging with us.
Again, don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss a show.
You can still check out Wednesday's episode if you want to get Game by Game breakdowns where we talked just about all those other betting sides
and totals pieces.
Good time there as always.
We had Matthew Freeman on this week. But we will be
back in the same spot next week. Again, holiday
week, but
still props. Still props to bet.
We'll have some prop articles, probably
some stuff earlier in our Discord. I'm sure Alex
will have some stuff fired off of you as well.
Hope you have a terrific
Thanksgiving holiday.
Food, family, and football. If you
hate your family, enjoy the food and some football. And Connor, food, family, and football. If you hate your family, enjoy the food and some football.
And Connor, Alex, and I will be back next week to do it all again.
Thanks for hanging with us.
Yeah!