Move The Line - Super Bowl Special with Silva, Daigle and Knish

Episode Date: February 5, 2021

Ryan and Connor are joined by a passionate trio of football prognosticators to unpack Sunday's Super Bowl. Evan Silva (ETR), John Daigle (Rotoworld), and Joey Knish (Mayonaise before Cheetos). This one goes all over the place, but eventually, all facets of the NFL betting market are covered. Find the podcast on Twitter @MoveTheLineNFL. Hosts: Ryan Noonan, Connor AllenGuest: Evan Silva, John Daigle, Joey KnishFollow UsTwitter - https://www.twitter.com/MoveTheLineNFLTwitter - https://www.twitter.com/4for4footballFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/4for4footballYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/4for4footballTwitch - https://www.twitch.com/4for4for4Email: [e-mail]

Hello and welcome to Move the Line presented by 4for4.com. I am Ryan Noonan, that's Connor Allen. That's Joey Kanish. That is Evan Silva. And that is John Daigle. We are bringing it to you for the Super Bowl edition. Our three favorite guests, our three most common guests, the ones that you ask for all the time, and we are bringing it together for the Super Bowl show.

So we're going to try to do our best to herd cats here, talk a little bit about the game. Guys, if you are do our best to herd cats here, talk a little bit about the game. Guys, if you are thinking, we'll just try to go talk a little bit about in case he has the ball, when Tampa has the ball. What about when the Bills have the ball? Oh, sorry. What about the Lions? Lions have the ball either. Oh, boy.

I lost track of my thought there. Connor, what's going on, man? Oh, boy. I lost track of my thought there. Go ahead. Connor, what's going on, man? Oh, man, not much. Just excited to dive into this and, you know, pumped to be able to watch the game with you guys this weekend. So it's going to be good. Daigle, you got nice weather down there in Texas.

We miss you up here. But how are things, buddy? You invited me to Chicago, but then later on, you took 24 hours to show me the weather uh like i'm actually going to travel to eight degrees no one travels to eight degrees to escape so probably your friends are here my friends are there admittedly we wouldn't make you watch the game outside to be here with the big dog as well having silva brother what's going on hey thanks for introducing me.

And also, I just want to introduce the next guy. You probably haven't heard of him. Well, you definitely haven't heard of him. And this will be his first year betting on the Super Bowl. In the streets, they call him the rookie. They call him the first-timer. And he's popping his cherry on this particular show. I just want to introduce the once great Joey Knish. I tell you, it's been such a year of when a guy you used to look up to

that now you've taken over for the go-to for NFL football fans, you are betting wise. So a lot of people have said that. I'm too humble to say that. A lot of people have said that I'm too humble to say that, you know, I, a lot of people have said that, you know,

that's hilarious. That, you know, is Evan going to turn over the company to you? Is he going to quit Twitter? I don't know. I mean, I don't,

I'm still a fan, but yeah, it's been, it's been tough to watch the downfall, but great to, you know, rise up here and be back here with you boys. All right, well, let's get into it.

We'll start with the game overview, and we'll dig into some of the good ones. Obviously, for the most part, it's kind of still held at three. There's a three-and-a-half we're seeing at MGM. Total has been hit down a little bit, 56. There's even a 55-and-a-half juiced up a little bit over at FanDuel. So, Connor, get us started here. What do you got in, and what are your thoughts on how you're approaching sides and totals?

Yeah, just briefly, I think that the biggest stand that I've taken so far here would be probably that Kansas City is going to go pass heavy in this one. And I think that part of the reason this has to do with kind of what they, how they approached this last time against Tampa Bay. So as we all know, Tampa Bay's run defense is really good. Number one, run D EPA, number one in run defense DVO.

So last time around the chiefs went extremely pass heavy, over 70% pass rate to kind of avoid that run defense. And then they were able to get out to a 17 point lead early in the game in the first quarter. They still continue to pass at a high rate. So I've kind of planned accordingly with the rest of my props and with the rest of how I expect this game to go. And I think that from there that helped me kind of dictate some of the other

props that we'll get into. But, you know, kind of going off that, one of the early ones that me and I know Daigle hit as well is Patrick Mahomes over 40 and a half pass attempts. And in the four games this season, Mahomes, over 40 and a half pass attempts. And in the four games this season, Mahomes is a three and a half point favorite or less. So projected close games. He's averaged 45 attempts in those games.

And he had 49 last time against Tampa Bay. So I like that one a lot. And we can just get kicked off with that. Perfect. Daigle, I'll kick it to you on the KC side. What jumps out to you? I'm interested to hear if anyone has a rebuttal because I don't know how the Bucs stop the Chiefs offense. That's not to say the Bucs won't score points.

I think they'll be successful on that side of the ball as well. But Patrick Mahomes and the offensive line are being way overblown, in my opinion. It's still Patrick Mahomes at the end of the day. He's been pressured. It's a small sample, I know. 19 times during the postseason, completing 61% of his passes for eight and a half yards per attempt, two touchdowns and no picks. He's thrown the ball outside of the pocket more times than any other quarterback this year. And on those throws,

he's had 16 touchdowns with zero interceptions. So will the Bucks get pressure? Yes. Will it matter? I don't think so. Even in the post season, Mahomes has only averaged six air yards per attempt. He doesn't have to go downfield. He has the benefit of also being, of course, with Andy Reid, who's one of the best schematic play callers in the entire league. So they don't have to be explosive via the air. They can be explosive underneath and make plays since they have playmakers that do so. So yeah, I don't know how, unless someone else can pitch it to me,

the Bucs stop the Chiefs offense at all. Yeah, Evan, I know we were dealing with basically, you know, a bunch of UDFAs on the offensive line. Mike Remmers is now playing left tackle. Mike Remmers basically handed Vaughn Miller a Super Bowl MVP a few years ago when he was trying to protect Cam Newton in that Super Bowl game.

What do you make of that? Does that impact your thoughts here on the minus three or plus three on Tampa side? Yeah, I mean, I think the reason that it's been discussed so much is because it's the biggest mismatch of the entire game is the Chiefs offensive line, which the only projected week one starter that is still out there for Kansas City is the center, Austin Ryder, and he's not, by no great shakes, a great center. And facing one of the best

pass rushes in the league, the Bucs were top four in the NFL and sacked in quarterback hits and top five in blitz raid. And they're going to bring pressure against Patrick Mahomes. But as Dago mentioned, this is Andy Reid coming off a bye with two weeks to prepare. And I think that Patrick Mahomes, I thought he looked great, all things considered, against Buffalo with, you know, despite the turf toe concerns. And now he's got two weeks to rest from that.

Another kind of, you know, unamplified factor here is that, you know, neither of these teams had to deal with like radio row and doing interviews all week. And all they just focus on the game the entire week. How is that? And I think that that could be good because a lot of these Super Bowls recently and people have highlighted this in particular about the Patriots, but a lot of the Super Bowls recently have started off slow. You know, teams get super, super amped up. They get tired after doing, you know, all these interviews all throughout the week.

I think that these teams come out in the early firing and I mean, 29 and a half point team total for Kansas city. That's very doable for them to get the over there. My best bet last week was not last week, but the week before it was Tampa Bay over 23 and a half. That was a cinch that went well over. I like the, I'm an over-better period, you know, which makes me sort of a square.

Can we get that on radio so I can have that to play it again? No, but, I mean, I've had success doing it, and so I'm going to keep doing it. Every time I bet a fucking under, it's like it loses every single time. So I'm going to stick with the overs i mean i like to over on the game and i like to over on the team totals like the over on the past attempts for patrick mahomes for all the reasons that you guys laid out um and you know i we can we can dig into the weeds from there yeah connor had a good uh note in his write-up here at four

four four on mahomes basically like i think what 49 in that first matchup here at 4-4-4 on Mahomes. Basically, I think, what, 49 in that first matchup back in Week 12? Obviously, positive game script that entire game. They were up 17-zip in the first quarter. And then he's averaged 45 attempts in the four games that they were favored by three and a half or less. So they're a pass-heavy team. We know it's Tampa's strength. So, Kanish, what are your thoughts on the Chiefs? No, you know, I would say one touch when we were talking on the total a little bit is it's kind of popped out today that there might be another on game day. It doesn't look like right now that it would be during the game.

But since Raymond James is actual grass, not turf, he could have some minor effect on the field early. You know, you'll see, you know, light rain and stuff doesn't usually. Do you see any wind though, Kanish?

Any like wind? That's where it looks like earlier in the day. It would be. So right now, I don't think it would be much of a during the game impact. If anything, it'd be a, you know,

a sloppy turf thing, but that's just something to monitor out there um uh the the best angle for me on the chief would be i you know when there was some click out during the week of how their sideline reacted when they were down nine versus buffalo after the hard tumble um and just the like the composure like the confidence the swagger like if there's any opportunity where I get an early buck score or an early Chiefs turnover, I love if you can get in on a Chiefs, even money live, plus money live, plus something along that. If they get in any type of deficit, just the demeanor on their sideline

when they went down was so – there was absolutely no confidence that they could come back and score, and they're dapping up Hardman and Kelsey. It was just like there was never a doubt that they would get back into that game and then ended up pretty much dominating. It would have been a 30-point game without that early turnover. I was at the game, and the B know, the Bills fans, you know, myself included, we started to get a little confident.

The Chiefs fans, they were not scared. They were not scared, and they shouldn't have been. And the Chiefs have been there so many times where they got down, like, big, you know, early in the game. I think that's a better dream come true as early on, or, you know, Connor and Noonan and I will be watching the game together. I think a dream scenario is like the chiefs get down, like maybe like 13 to three and we just smash the button on chiefs money line.

That's why I like Mahomes pass attempts over the most opened at 40 and a half has since been bid up to 41 and a half. But even then I think it has the highest floor of any bet. There is no lock of course in sports betting unless you're clay travis but whether it's whether it's wind or even the over or a negative game scope which i don't see happening but even negative games here in my homes we know they're not going to run the ball in the teeth of the tampa front seven their game script their game plan no matter what is going to be continuing to pass the ball like those showed in week 12 so it's the safest safest option among anything on the board.

And there's a boost over on DraftKings too with combined Brady and Mahomes. I think it's like, what was it, Connor? 55 and a half attempts? I mean, that's just... No, no, no, completions. Completions. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's still like...

Knowing that the offensive line issues that they have, expecting some negative game scripts from Tampa you know, Tampa side too. I just think it sets up really well for high volume. Do we think there's anything to the Superbowl thing? I mean, I haven't brought it up as far as the slow starts thing. And, you know, I know that the, you know, the Patriots thing has been beat into our submission. We basically have had three points in the first quarter and their nine Superbowls, but

there really is something back to 99. The average total in the first quarter of the Super Bowl is 6.4 points. An average NFL game over that same time is 8.9. So there is something to it. Do we think that changes this week around some of the points that Evan brought up, or is that just because of the extra height for the game and sometimes there's some slow starts there? Do we think there's anything to it? Because first quarter total is 10.5.

Connor, what are your thoughts there on that? Yeah, I don't have too strong of a take on that. I think that what Silva brought up is interesting. 10.5, that is nothing. 10.5 is the first quarter. That is nothing, man. For me, I just feel like I don't really see too much of a compelling reason why. It seems more like it's something that happened,

and it's more descriptive than predictive. Just because it happened before doesn't mean that the first quarters in every Super Bowl starts slow. I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe it is the Super Bowl hype around it, and players just coming out flat. I don't know.

But it's just something that I don't really buy too much into. But even if it's like an inefficiency for narrative, like nerves getting the best of you and thus you're not playing well, like who is nervous between Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes? If anything, they're bored to be here. Like they're trying to build dynasty. They don't care about one single game. So I wouldn't buy into that narrative either.

Yeah. I think that's a good point because you do have that where you have the experience of, Hey, Brady can help them understand this is a different cadence to our pregame stuff. And there's a different cadence to halftime. And Casey obviously was just there last year.

Brady has a crap ton of experience too. So that's a good point. And the general popular narrative for why that happened to the Patriots. It's been really, you know highlighted for for Tom Brady is that like Josh McDaniels and Bill Belichick especially wanted to like feel out the other team and see what they were doing early on and you know slow play it early I mean and that worked out for them but he's I mean now he's he's being coached by no biscuit. So I don't – 10.5 for the first quarter, I think that's an amazing bet.

I think you're getting plus numbers because the under is minus 148. Minus 148 on the under there. So people are – the books are – people are buying into that narrative. People love the hashtag trends, bro. Yeah. That's where it's at. All right, Kanish, kick us off. Any KC props?

I mean, we've definitely lost the best of the number on anything Tyreek or Kelsey related, but that doesn't mean that they're necessarily bad plays at this point. Has anything jumped out to you so far in your early betting? No, I talked about this a little bit with Whale last night. I think the CEHale last night. I think the CEH stuff is cheap. People are reading, some of the

problem numbers are reading a little bit too much into the AFC Championship game performance where they wanted to get him the ball. He got touches. He didn't really perform well enough. I don't think he was 100%. I think he'll be better now with the two weeks off. The Chiefs have really limited their game this year.

They're not running, you know, three, four backs out there. Usually it's their primary two backs, and I think they're going to go CEH and Williams. And there's, you know, I've seen his yardage down to 28.5. I see 30.5 there. Some of those are 28.5 for rushing yards. I've seen carries at 7.5, especially if they're out ahead at any point in this game

when they felt a little bit, or Bucs are going to run two deep safeties at some point and load up a light box and invite the Chiefs to run. I mean, there's scripts where I think he gets a decent amount of run. I think at worst, at worst, it's 50-50, and I could see more 60-40, 70-30, CEH. He's the better player. I'm not going to let one game throw me off, you know, when he's coming off a little bit of an injury history here with now getting two weeks.

And they wanted to get it. He started. They got him the wreck. He was the primary guy until they kind of let Williams finish the game in the AFC title because he was playing better. I think you'll see a much better CEH game. I think his numbers are low. Yeah, can someone clip that there, the guy that was playing better, I think you'll see a much better CEH game. I think his numbers are low. Yeah, can someone clip that there, the guy that was playing better?

That's Kanish admitting who the better player there, and that's the mentor, Daryl motherfucking Williams. He had a nice game, but it's a singular instance, and I think they want to give CEH, the player overall, the better ceiling. I think – and I will say, you mentioned Kelsey. I think the Kelsey numbers are just getting ridiculous. And I'll probably on Sunday, right before tip, once all the money is coming down over, look to play back uh on a little bit

i'm not going to tell you the greatest play in the world but uh i've seen some over 100 yard props there for kelsey for a tight end who you wouldn't expect to have too many explosive plays if he's not getting that 9 10 11 catches which by all means could but i think the number if it's getting over 100 isn't too high for him the true question mark is the two weeks removed ceh now is further along in that healing from the injury uh because they started with him they wanted to give him the ball to start the conference championship game but he was ineffective like he was bad and thus after three drives gerald williams had out touched him three to two because they couldn't go back to ceh since he was

ineffective um williams also although he was out-snapped, two more snaps to CEH, still handled 13-19 running back carries. But that's not where I would be in on anyways. I think he's the better pass protector. I think they know that as well. So although CEH will still be mixed in for receptions, I think Darrell Williams receiving overs, whether it's receptions or receiving yards yards are still the play here because they are set as if he's in a timeshare or the 1b option whereas he could very well as we saw last week be the ultimate starter uh and so i think there's still value on on daryl williams receiving overs

that's interesting so i'm kind of actually so i took a full game um like under on the chiefs rushing yards at 90 and a half um just kind of based on like what we – I mean, that's a lot, isn't it? It's a lot of rushing yards. Yeah, exactly. Best run defense in the NFL behind a depleted offensive line in a game where we're really expecting a lot of passing times out of kids. That's –

Exactly. That's a ton. That's still a fan duel, minus 125 on the under. Actually, also went Tampa Bay. So now they have Vita Veya back. In the six games that Veya has played this season, no team has more than 87 total rushing yards against them. And they're averaging 2.7 yards per carry, averaging negative.2 EPA.

And that was against, like, Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara, Aaron Jones, like actual good running backs. Now you're getting, you know. And now they're facing a backfield where we can't even decide who the best running back in the backfield is. And Mahomes isn't running the ball either. Three of his five carries last week were kneel downs. Yeah.

And he could run backwards at the end of the game too. You never know, like another 15 yards backwards. I didn't see how – What was the snap count and like PFF grade versus – I wasn't able to to pull i didn't see how many snaps he actually got in or how they rated him uh for screen bay uh i actually i actually don't know how how exactly how much he played but i know what was the question how that's the number of snaps they have played and if like he had any you know a pff

grade or how they rated him how how he played in that game. Among the Chiefs RBs? No, Vita Vea on Tampa. He played 46% of the snaps. I imagine that will probably go up. It depends, though, I guess, on kind of the strategy. He's never like a 100% player, but he's definitely going to be better. I mean, I would bet that he's more like in the 70% range this week. And again, we are all very confident they're not going to run the ball,

like at all. Right. No, I love that team. I love that KC underplay for sure, Connor. I thought that was a good highlight too. And then definitely he's backed up by our projections for sure. I mean, I think if you hit like-Flair receiving yards over and Darrell Williams receiving yards over, you can

both get there because Darrell Williams is like 12.5 receiving yards. Edwards-Flair is something not too much higher than that. I mean, I just think there's going to be a lot of pass attempts, period, and not very many rushing attempts. Both those, their game

is built around being receiving backs. I mean, Derek, Clyde Eversolair is 207 pounds, ran four, six coming out of LSU. What was his calling card that he caught the most passes in SEC history in an individual season among, you know, among running backs all time? That's his calling card. And the calling card of Darrell Williams is the fact that he is so functional on passing downs because he's the best pass blocker on KC. He's, like, guaranteed to get snaps.

I think it's going to be a two-man backfield. We're not going to see Le'Veon. Darwin's played on special teams. It's going to be a two-man backfield of Edward Solaire and Darrell Williams. I think they can both get there in the receiving department. And again, that's why I like Williams receiving overs and CH, because the numbers are so low that it being an ambiguous situation doesn't scare me at all.

Like they're not setting one to be the starter. They're setting them in lower than a timeshare, honestly. And so 12 and a half receiving yards for Daryl, that's so easy. Yeah, 12 and a half and 15 and a half right now in DK. I mean, they could easily get there just each in like one play um you know one one or two catches so there's definitely some ambiguity around the ancillary pieces for kansas city's passing offense as well we are dealing with trying to understand what's going on with you know with demarcus robinson

covid close contact at the barber all that stuff we know. Chances are he's probably going to play. What about Brian Pringle? Oh yeah, we got to bring this up. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I'm a professional. Okay. I'll leave the party to you.

Set it up. So we got a lot of movie pieces here, right? We got Sammy coming back. We got Pringle's role, who Pringle has seen. I think Levitan's done a really good job of highlighting this. Pringle has really been the guy that's emerged in the situations when Sammy's gone out. We see Robinson, Hardman kind of stay in the same role.

So what do we think about these pieces? I'll let you go, Kanish. You can get me started with kind of how you're approaching this kind of Pringle Hardman Watkins Robinson situation well I mean you would think that Robinson's gonna be he looked like the odd man out last week and now with the COVID and the and the non-practice I would not expect him most I think most his props got pulled down most places because it would probably be he's in like an emergency role situation I know some people are buying the sammy

watt is there anybody in the history of fantasy or prop football that's let more people down than sammy watkins ever like sammy watkins off a cap injury limited and now we're expecting him to come back when pringle's been playing well and getting run and now we're gonna get 100 of the snaps um i i'll pay you that's That's a little bit of a leap. Byron Pingel is getting 100% of the snaps. I mean, you're going off the fucking reservation. Byron Pingel is getting 100% of the snaps. No, no, no.

I'm saying Sammy Watkins. People think he's going to come back and get 100%. Sammy Watkins has entered like CJ Spiller territory for sure. Okay. I mean, okay. And he still can't get in full practices. I mean, he was limited today. Last week, I mean, last week

he got in two practices and he didn't play. I mean, I'm with you. Give him the bat. Tell the big dog the bat here so he can have a take on this. We are agreeing. It's time. You need to bend the knee. Tell the big dog the bet here so we can have a take on this. We are agreeing. We are agreeing.

The over-under is one and a half. It's time, Kanish. You need to bend the knee. You need to bend the knee. Admit that you are Judas. Admit that you are Brutus. I mean, you stabbed me in the back too many times. What are you talking about? Bend the knee.

We were both on the bills preseason. We both cashed, you know, the big. We were both on the Allen train. No We both cashed, you know, the big. We were both on the Allen trade. No, I'm done with the fake tickets, with the fake news. Set up the prop. Set up the prop what we got here. Me versus Allen. I already took him to the cleaners when Steelers, Browns.

Now I got to take a little more of his money. What do we got here, Newton? Set it up. Well, I feel like Daigle has a thought for me. I'm actually in on Byron Pringle as well. I think the range of outcomes. I think the range of outcomes. Hold on.

Not him playing 100% of the snaps. Not him playing 100% of the snaps. I'm going to take a word out of my mouth and give it a snap. He needs like 10 snaps to get two catches. The range of outcomes. Yes, exactly. And the range of outcomes for Sammy Watkins is not being discussed. It could be a wide array of outcomes.

So just the fact that Byron Pringle's props are still relatively low to the rest of the group. He played as many snaps as Tyreek Hill last. Like, that's insane. So if Sammy Watkins is even limited, Byron Pringle can get there to Kanisha's point. Never thought I'd agree with him unless I was sleeping on a podcast that was two catches easily. So, yes, I'm to Kanisha's point Never thought I'd agree with him unless I was sleeping On a podcast that was two catches

Easily so yes I'm In Kanisha's corner here Conor you get some thoughts here I guess I'm the Odd man out here I'm the odd man out no so I mean I guess The only the only counter argument to what I Was going to say was that Sammy Watkins is not even

Going to play like 60 70 percent of the Snaps which I think that he will I think he's going to come back in, play 60, 70% of the snaps. If we go back to the season, right? So hear me out guys. Guess how many targets Byron Pringle had in the seven games where both him and Sammy Watkins played this season? One, one target in seven games. The highest snap count that he had in those games, 10. 10 snaps. If Sammy Watkins is anything like healthy, Byron Pringle's not even going to see the field. He's going to

play six or seven snaps. And so, I guess what you guys are banking on is that Sammy Watkins is not going to be anywhere near full health, and he's going to be playing like 10 snaps. In your first year betting the Super Bowl, you tie your thing to Byron Pringle. I mean, I'm praying for you,

Joe. I don't want you to lose everything. I don't know what you're going to do. Take out another loan from your parents. I don't know what. Maybe you can move back into your mom's basement. Kanisha won't even see a target. He won't even see a target.

They will rehire you at the barista. All right. Yeah, call your old manager and see if you can get Conor a job. My old manager. No, but seriously, I mean, the Chiefs have a lot of receiving options, right? It looks like Demarcus Robinson is going to be good to go. You know, as much as we don't like him, they have fed him snaps, you know, pretty consistently.

And if Sammy Watkins is ready to go, I mean, Byron Pringle is going to be like number five. You know, I mean, why are we not talking about Nicole Hardman here? Let's talk about this. What do you think Hardman gets in this game? So with Hardman, why I like him, and the juice is bad, I understand. Well, maybe not bad considering the odds are high, but I like Nicole Hardman dabbling on first touchdown because not only does he have a variation of ways,

unlike other players, they've gotten cute with Travis Kelsey inside the 10-yard line and let him do those underhand throws for the fuck of it or for the fun of it. So I don't know if I can tell someone for sure. I'm just saying it with friends. But I like Nicole Hardman because also he has the opportunity to return a kick. And I understand the odds are ridiculous to return a kick. But also you got to remember the Bucs special teams allowed a league high in kick return

yards this year, nearly four more yards per kickoff return. And so Hardman has more chances. What a nerd stat that is. Hardman has more chances like that as opposed to other players who are only getting a chance to catch the ball. That's a good note for showdown slates, I feel like. Hardman plus Chiefs D. So the overall special teams isn't too bad,

but the Buccaneers kick return is 27th in DVOA. The Chiefs kickoff return is fourth in DVOA. So, I mean, predicting a – Nicole Hardman and Pringle. Pringle gets returns too. He's fast as shit. Yeah, predicting a kick return is massive, obviously. I think you can find it on FanDuel at plus 550.

First touchdown. Not kickoff, but just first touchdown. I'm thinking anytime special teams touchdown plus 550, you can find any time special teams or defensive touchdown for plus 200. You're obviously increasing your outs there, but it's definitely a mismatch. I think it's a mismatch that's underplayed in just the game as far as flipping the field and those things. I don't know that necessarily we're going to see a touchdown from Hardman, but I think you're going to see some good returns there.

I think we should – What about the fat man touchdown? Like DK's really pushing this. This is the ultimate sucker bet right here. Somebody put those bad boys first. They put them there on purpose. What about the Gatorade? What about the Gatorade?

Hey, Kanish, I know you have some novelty takes. I need – There's two. All right, let me give you the two offade? What about the Gatorade? Hey, Kanish, I know you have some novelty takes. I need – There's two. All right, let me give you the two off the wall here from the gambling Twitter sewer. One was my guy's friend. He was a little off the reservation sometimes. Wanted Vita Vea anytime touchdown 50-1 because he thinks that they're going to put him in the back. Like, you know, on some fullback.

Like the fridge? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, he might get a good one. That would be sick. You hit Vita Vea on a fullback toss. Yeah, I thought 50 was light, though. Like, I was going to be like, I'll put you at 50. The other one was from a guy even further off the reservation,

Ed Teach, who unfortunately won a lot of money on this run and probably the FBI should be at his house. Very famous from your pinned tweet as well. Yeah, yes. Which is the funniest pinned tweet I think

I've ever seen. I just watched it on repeat It's hilarious He took individual MVP odds on a couple of Bucs defensive players Like Shaq Barrett, Devin White Like thinking that there's going to be A 5% game script

Where the Bucs defense dominates The Chief Offensive Line One of them gets a few sacks. He hit a couple, like, I think Shaq Barrett, 150, DeLennon White, 151. A couple of those were a few long shots out there for game MVP. Again, very unlikely, but for people that want to sprinkle a little the long shot money line, that's from the guys that definitely have made their way in gambling throughout the years.

All right, well, let's go to the Bucs first before we get completely off the board. Those are fun, and I think we all have a list of some of those. But, you know, Tampa Bay side, you know, Evan, I looked at your matchups column today, and a 30 to 28 prediction has a Bucs cover in it. I would love to get your thoughts on that and some of your thoughts around Tampa. Well, I think that if the Bucs are going to, I mean, I don't know, I think the Bucs can definitely keep it close. I think that if you're going to make a bet on a team that might, you know, and you're trying to like play one of the alternate spreads,

you know, I think like Chiefs minus 13 and a half, I think is really interesting. But I, some of it comes from just, you know, my own personal bias. I want to see a good football game, higher scoring football game. And I believe that both of those scenarios are very much in play. And, you know, in this scenario, the Chiefs overhits, the Bucs team total overhits, the game total overhits. And, I mean, this is the kind of game that I sort of expect, but mostly want. So, I mean, there's definitely some, I mean, you know, we're, we're down to what we got one game left, man, you know? And

so sometimes I bet with my heart in situations like that. And I understand this is not necessarily the best money-making week. I think so much, so much, so many of the spreads and lines are really efficient. And, um, you know, it's, it's, it's more just to have fun with your friends. And, you know, but that's kind of how I envision this game. And I'm sort of hopeful that it's going to be a close, high-scoring game. But I also think that that's very, very much in play. I think that, you know, the Bucs offense has been on fire. They're averaging, what, almost 34 points a game over their last seven.

We know what the Chiefs offense can do. You know, even with a shaky offensive line, they can make big plays downfield. They can cut you up, you know, in the short. And I think that these are – I just – I'm expecting a great Super Bowl. Zagle, what do you got on Tampa style? Anything jumped out to you in the prop markets? Do you think they hang? Are you on, I guess we didn't go, you know,

are you on KC minus three or what are your thoughts? My second favorite bet is Cameron Bray anytime touchdown and sprinkling on first touchdown to the game. We saw in week 12 that the Bucks featured their tight ends. 13 of 41 pass attempts from Brady for a 32% target share were funneled to their tight ends. Gronk had a season high, 106 yards, caught six of his seven targets in that game. Brait caught four of six. And in the postseason, Brait leads the entire team, not just tight ends, but entire team in red zone and end zone targets. And when he's

on the field, he's running routes. Only one of his 87 postseason snaps, he stayed in to block. And we know the Chiefs, nine of their 25 red zone receiving scores have been to opposing tight ends. So I think, I understand Bray was on the injury report today, limited, but apparently he was held out just for precautionary reasons. So I'm still in on betting him across the board. Love it. Kanish, what do you got here? Tampa Bay side.

Fucking think this Bucs team is particularly – it's such a fucking fraud. Like they've had this run where they get the football team, they get the Saints when Drew Brees can't throw a ball 10 yards. They get the fucking Packers and they turn the ball like – this run, if you compare that to the schedule – Conveniently left out where this entire thing flips. Conveniently left out that they went and absolutely boat raced the Lions.

The last time that I heard Kanish talk this confidently about a fraudulent team was the Pittsburgh Steelers. And where are they? Excuse me. Excuse me. Who beat their team total by game 10. Beat their team total by game 10. And it was downhill all the way to the bottom.

Who cares? We got our tickets, bro. We got our tickets. We got our tickets. Just like Dan Campbell overs. We got our tickets. You got our tickets. Just like Dan Campbell overs. We got our tickets ready to go. Over one and a half is going to be great next year. I mean, I don't believe in terms of like their play calling has been.

I can't step in the fucking Packers game. They got in third and long like every drive for the first series, like third drive. And somehow Brady makes a move. By the time Patin figured out in the second half that if he blitzed the whole fuck, he can't move, and he's going to be throwing moon balls everywhere. It was too late, and they blew the game down at the end. They got playoff Lenny, who's at like four and a half yards. He was the top five pick in the draft.

Like five yards a carry. People think he's fucking like Prime Barry Sanders now, playoff Lenny who's at like four and a half yards. He was the top five pick in the draft. Like five yards a carry. People think he's fucking like Prime Barry Sanders now, playoff Lenny. I don't love this Bucs. I don't think their secondary is very good. I don't think they break. You have the right game plan. Chiefs, uber aggressive defense like the Blitz. I think that fits well.

I'm going to swear to God, I don't believe in this Bucs team. I don't believe they should be here. I think they've got a lot of names. I mean, that's really hot. That's really hot, Kanish. I don't know why. Kanish, I know you usually bring the level-headed takes. But in this scenario.

I'm just not sold. I don't know what they had. They probably have the most talented defense in this scenario. I'm just, I'm not sold. I don't know what the hell. I mean, they probably have the most talented defense in the NFL. I'm not going to go there. Most talented defense in the NFL? I mean, who's more talented? Well, I'd say maybe the Steelers before they do this. The Steelers.

The Steelers. Oh, yeah, the Steelers. To Kanisha's point, the Packers were there. We forget the Packers were within one score. They just chose to kick a field goal to make it five points. Yeah, but that was a hell of a win for Tampa Bay going to fucking Lambeau. I mean, that was a hell of a win. I agree, but it also –

Early in the season, they whitewashed the Packers. You can't say going to Lambeau. Early in the season, they whitewashed the Packers. You can't say go to Lambeau. Earlier in the season, they whitewashed the Packers. That's not like going to Lambeau when it's the frozen tundra and there's 60,000 inbred Packers fans going nuts. That doesn't apply going to Lambeau. Nice whataboutist take there. Earlier in the season, they beat the Packers 38 to 10 I know I was downstairs

probably yelling at you I recall don't worry yeah oh well yeah I why the over on that game and you remember they the Packers pulled their starters like oh yeah to the third quarter or something and all we needed was like 53 to get there and I don't think anybody even scored in the that was a disaster it was DeAndre Swift breakout. And I don't think anybody even scored in the – that was a disaster. It was DeAndre Swift breakout week because I had him 100% in DFS and I had the Packers stacked. And then they just got, as you said, just got whitewashed. Hey, by the way, Kanish, when are you coming to Chicago?

I'll be there as soon as they stick me with the vaccine, baby. As soon as I get one in the arm, I'm on the way. Cool. Sounds good. Oh, man. So, Kanish, I mean, you have to be, like, laying the house on KC minus three then. Like, you have to have taken a pretty big position on that. If you feel this strongly.

You know I get into the props stuff a little bit more in the Super Bowl than the guy. But I did like, you know, KC money line. I don't know. You want to call it square? Go with that. I don't give a damn. I don't think the Chiefs you want to call it square, go with that, the best percentage. I don't give a damn. I don't think the Chiefs are going to lose this game.

And I'm going to say it. I think there's a few scenarios where they take the bucks to the fucking cleaners. And if you get Brady down, you know, and the Chiefs defense can turn him over a little bit, and he's having, you know, face an aggressive pass rush. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Even if you like, you know, you kind of – you're betting with your heart a little bit

and, you know, betting the bucks to keep it close or whatever. Like, I say throw a little bit on the Chiefs to just win in, like, a blowout. Like, you know, like alternate spread, like 16.5 or something like that. You know, just to hedge a little bit yeah there's to get that like plus 500 defensive line performance from the bucks like a giant brady where their defensive line dominated if you get that type of effort then yes i think you can see that where you need four to six sacks mahomes isn't right with the foot uh if you don't get that, then I don't think the Bucs offense can keep up with this level of play. I'm just not a believer. I'm not a believer.

That's why I thought the best bet was points bet had Chiefs minus three even money the first 48 hours after the line was released, and then it immediately disappeared. But if you got it by Tuesday, that's been the best line we've seen the past two weeks for sure. For sure. Oh, yeah. There's lots of those ban offerings out there point-wise. Like DK has KC by 7 to 12. Evan likes them a little bit more, it sounds like, or is interested in maybe even playing that up a little bit. But 7 to 12 is plus 420. That seems like something that could, you know, a 10-point game.

That sounds like it would be right down Kanisha's alley. 7-12 plus 420, that is – that's beautiful. Well, if it was maybe 7-28, I take it. But I'll be looking more in the, you know, the 24-27 range. Wow. No shot. All right. Wow.

Okay, then. I like it. Well, I think it's been said. I think it's pretty sharp, wow. No shot. All right. Wow. Okay, then. I like it. Well, I think it's been said, I think it's pretty sharp, too. Like, there's just not a lot of scenarios where Tampa wins and Brady isn't the MVP. So I think, you know, we saw last year. I mean, I watched a very, very correct and very frustrated Evan Silva knock cash a Damian Williams MVP. But because, you know. 25 to 1.

And he was the best player on the field the entire game. Yep. And Mahomes sucked for three quarters. And he still won the MVP. And, look, he was the most valuable player on the field. I mean, but still, like, Damian Williams was an amazing receiver, was an amazing – by the way, what do you think of Damian Williams was an amazing receiver, was an amazing – by the way, what would Damian Williams today?

I mean, what would he be doing over these scrubs, Edward Soler and Darrell Williams? He would be – he'd be rocking it. We'd probably be doubling down on him for MVP. It's a crooked market, this MVP, because you need either like a 13-3 game or one of the guys to get hurt because the media guys that are there are going to give it to the quarterback. Especially when it's Mahomes and Brady,

unless there's some type of, you know, Like a quarterback gets injured or something. Yeah, you need something along those lines to happen for it not to be a quarterback, especially when the total is sitting up there in, you know, the mid-high 50s for this game. There's not a performance that's realistic that even if a receiver goes 202 touches yeah right yeah let's let's let's let's let's say gronk catches three touchdowns well they were all

still thrown by brady yeah yeah i'm gonna give it to brady so but what if what is almost a donkey pick i think to to take anybody except for a quarterback i agree yeah so okay so do you so in the case that they met week 12 tyreek went 13 269 3 do you think my home still wins the mvp lean yes but that's that's a that's a hell of a i mean honestly i i think so too i was thinking about this i just don't i don't even know i mean that's like you know probably all the records in the super bowl for receiving yards maybe not receptions i think someone i think well, James White had like 14 or 15, but still pretty close.

When players reach this caliber, like this status of their career, already like Mahomes has and like Brady, it's just hard to look past them for these awards. You saw with Peyton Manning in that Bear Super Bowl. Like Dominic Rhodes was the best player on the field. He didn't matter. He didn't have a chance of getting Super Bowl MVP over Peyton. Diego, you were like 13 during that Super Bowl.

I wasn't living in your basement yet. My life was downhill because 20 years later I was living in your basement. QB for Super Bowl MVP minus 350. A question from a listener. That's a lot of juice. It's a lot of juice. It's just not fun. It's the 19 condom bet, you know.

Strap on as many condoms as you can. You know, just put on a full body condom and bet. I mean, what are you going to bet, like $50 to try to make, you know, $13? I have seen, I think, a different place at $275. I don't know if you have. I think bet MGM at $275 if you're looking to place that. That I was actually considering laying some on, but I went 350s getting to the point where I wouldn't touch it up that high.

Best off just taking a stand and picking a guy because there's pretty much consistently we see Kansas City defer. And we've seen the last two playoff games where Tampa Bay has won the toss and taken the ball. There is a – so we can get into some, like, first play stuff. And I know that Connors had some stuff around Kansas City that way. But there's an offering on FanDuel that I thought was interesting. It was Tampa Bay first to score because it does seem like more than likely that they are the team likely to get the ball first. Tampa first to score and lose is plus 260. I thought that was a pretty interesting offer if you are on the Casey side and it seems likely that Tampa gets the ball first. Now, it doesn't

necessarily mean that they're going to score in their opening drive, but again, the chances are increased by them getting the ball first. So any other exotics, anything on Tampa's side as far as – let's get into some of the props, rushing props. We have to kind of parse through. I wanted to ask Kanish a general strategy because, I mean, he actually is a veteran better even as much as I, you know. Allegedly. Tried to stab him in the back there, Brutus him, you know,

like Brutus did to Julius Caesar. But, I mean, what are your thoughts on, like, I feel like, you know, most, like, you know, people that are newer to this, they want to, like, make sure that all their bets are, like, aligned with, you know, one theory. You know, like, let's say, hey, you know, the Bucs are going to win. We got to bet, you know, Brady MVP. We got to bet, you know, overs on say hey you know the bucks are going to win we got to bet you know brady mvp we got to bet you know overs on on buck stuff we got to bet you know maybe some unders on kc

stuff you know and but i mean what are your thoughts on sort of hedging against some of your um you know your your your main uh theories uh and then i don't know, just like, you know what I'm saying? No, no, I hear you. And I think a lot of people, just at this point in the season, a lot of the player prop numbers are pretty tight, are pretty tough. You're not going to see huge deltas. And I agree with people, like, you don't want to set yourself up where you have this game script in your head that you think it's the way

it's going to play out, and you're going to bet everything that's correlated to that script. You would traditionally want to bet stuff. You know, I think the best stuff you see in the Super Bowl is off the rail. People want to bet, you know, Kelsey or Hill or any of those. And I think the much better value is on some of the stuff that's not offered for most games or for some of the guys that's not offered for most games or for some of the guys that aren't offered for most games. And when we talk, Le'Veon Bell had props out there.

And I was big on getting on his unders. In a traditional game on a Sunday, he would have nothing. But it's the Super Bowl. So you've got Scotty Miller props. You've got Le'Veon Bell props. Iron Pringle props. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, prop. I bet the banger Pringle props that we've already touched on.

Just stuff that isn't normally there that I think has much more of, whether a qualitative angle or something you can get into, especially if you can shop around on stuff. And if you want to set yourself up with some middles, the numbers are over the place everywhere. There's just much better strategies to go about than um thinking like oh i like the the bucks to win so i'm gonna bet all their overs and chief right right that's not traditionally going to uh yeah you may get uh you know everything on point one game but usually it's going to leave you, you know, in a bad place more so than not.

Yeah. I'm with, I'm with the Casey thoughts here in, in a big way, but I have a sprinkle on Brady MVP for that very reason. It's not enough to cover my Casey losses if, if Tampa wins, but at least it covers a little bit.

I think that's kind of that DFS mindset. So the right, we're looking to have your, especially in a showdown standpoint, like you want your lineups to tell a story, right? You want a narrative driven where if the game goes this way, X, Y, and Z start to run. Yeah, I almost think that showdown is like almost the opposite of the way

that we should be positioning our bets because really with bets, maybe we should just be looking for like just look at each bet independent of your theory and is a good bet you know is each independent bet a good bet and let's take it if it's a fucking good bet and at the end of the day you know let's make 25 you know individual bets and if we get 17 of them we're cooking you know we're cooking also showdown like the payout is much greater and you're playing against other people whereas you know sometimes these are 1v1 returns. Yeah, 26-1, whatever.

Your showdown lineup should be very much aligned. But I think what Noonan was actually getting at was that if you're going to make one showdown lineup, then make the next one almost contrarian as it leans to the first. Yeah, so I totally agree with that. Connor, you had some good nuggets on some of the completion percentage numbers that were hung by draft kings uh what are your thoughts there yeah i think this is actually an example of what you guys were just talking about so you know i think the chiefs win and i think that they outperform uh the bucks here

but i took tom brady over 62 and a half percent completion rate early in the week um so we haven't projected for 65 he's gone over that number in 13 of 19 games this season and all six teams that he failed to post better than a 62 and a half percent completion rate against were top 15 in passing DVOA. Kansas City is not in the top 15 and he had 65% completion rate against Casey in their previous matchup. So I think that that's kind of where I'm at. And also if they fall behind, I mean, we're going to get dinky dunk Brady, just completing checkdowns for days and end up with like a 70% completion rate. So, yeah, I like that one a lot.

Another one that was kind of like contrarian to what we're talking about here, but I also think it's a good bet, would be Patrick Mahomes to throw two touchdowns plus KC to win. And that was at minus 108. So it's kind of almost just taking like KC to win. And that was at minus 108. So it's kind of almost just taking like KC to win in my opinion. Like Mahomes has this in almost every, I think it was like 75 or 80% of his games. And if you actually parlayed these odds,

it was pretty much the same. If you parlayed them independently of what you thought, but really they're correlated because Mahomes throws like three or four touchdowns, the Chiefs are more likely to win. So that's kind of where, where the other two ones that I was looking at specifically. I don't know too much about the Bucs rushing stuff. I don't know if you guys are in on the Leonard Fournette receiving overs

or any of that, but I talked to you guys about this earlier in the week via text about Ronald Jones versus Leonard Fournette and how that's going to shake out. Just because, I mean, Leonard Fournette was a healthy scratch a couple of weeks ago, and now he's catapulted into being their 1A, I would say, to Ronald Jones' 1B. But I know you guys had at least a little bit of a dissenting opinion there on what could play out. Yeah.

Dagle, give me your thoughts on the usage there. We know that Ronald Jones couldn't catch a cold. You know, he's been dealing with, you know, hamstring injuries and finger injuries and just in general is not really getting a lot of work in passing situations really since the start of the season. But how do you think this is going to work its way out on Sunday? Ronald Jones has been quote unquote healthy the past two games and it's Leonard Fournette who still has 13 to 14 backfield targets and a 19% target

share in that span. I'm uncertain about the rushing numbers, just like the Chiefs backfield. I don't know about the rushing numbers, but I am interested in the catching numbers. And we know Fournette in the conference championship game ran 25 routes to Jones' six. And so if we're predicting negative game script, even being within one score early and trailing, it's all Fournette's backfield, in my opinion. So I like Fournette over combined 78 and a half rushing and receiving yards. I think he can get to 50 receiving yards alone easily in this game. What do you think, Evan? Do you think that that's, you know, plays itself out that way?

We just continue to see more Lenny? Yeah, I'm totally with Dagle. I think that Leonard Fournette, I mean, as much as I, you know, have been here, like, you know, I mean, he, I think he's earned Tom Brady's trust, which I think is critical for an older quarterback. Ronald Jones can't play in the passing game at all. That has been the case for like a decade, even going back to his high school career. Leonard Fournette isn't that great in the passing game either, but he's better than Ronald Jones. He's just – he's completely – he's non-functional.

He's one target since week 14. Leonard Fournette, I think, has 27 targets during that span. Leonard Fournette can pass block. I think that that is important against Kansas City. And I mean, I think it's, you know, Ronald Jones, I mean, he's not a bad runner. He's not a bad early down runner. He's a change of pace early down back.

And I think that he's going to get eight to 10 carries here and he might gain 70 yards, but who gives a shit about 70 yards? You know, so especially, well especially well in fantasy i don't know i mean that wouldn't be what i would project him for i project him for like fucking 26 but you know i mean he like he he can break some decent you know uh long runs but i think that four net is going to be the dude here and i i think he's earned it and we've seen kind of how kc defends too right they've been really limiting outside receivers in really kind of, you know,

filtering stuff in. They want to box you in, man. You know, they're willing to give up, you know, good, like rushing efficiency, but they're not going to get hurt by your receivers, or at least this is how they want to play. They might get hurt by the Bucs receivers because a lot of people get hurt by the Bucs receivers, but you're right. I mean, they don't want to give up big plays in the passing game.

They play it pretty smart, you know, and they play complimentary defense to their offense, which they know can put up 30 each and every week. Yep. That's good. Yeah, they filter in. Daigle did a good job outlining some of the tight end usage, which I think is crucial here. How do we think the receivers are impacted here?

You know, it seems like that would work best for Godwin in the slot. Though maybe, you know, generic Snead's probably been their best corner all season is matched up in the slot mostly, but like Evan was saying, they just, they've limited outside receivers all season long.

So condition, if you jumped in on any of the bucks, I know you're off the box by any of those prop numbers. You know, I've been a little bit um i would say i'm not as clear in terms of how or i have feel as good around how they're going to spread the ball around um especially with the antonio brown um comeback you think he's still limited in practice but before he you before he got dinged up a little bit, he was

becoming quite a feature for Brady. So you've had Evans in the middle of an element of the big play with Godwin getting more of the target share. You've had Cameron Bray now reemerge, Gronkowski being more of a blocker. I don't have a great, I really don't have much invested in the Bucs receiving props. The only thing I took, there was break to catch a pass before Gronkowski minus 135. I took that, but I will say, you know, he had the back flare up today. So I wouldn't feel, you know, I think the juice is higher up on there. I don't have anything super substantial on the Bucs receiving props, and either way, much of a great feel.

I know Connor and I took some Ty Johnson and Scotty Miller overs with Antonio Brown out last game that were solid, but now that he's back in the fold, probably at least a good chunk, I don't have too much of anything I love Bucs receiving-wise. I still think Scotty Miller is interesting because it's only 20.5 receiving yards. He averages over 15 yards per target, over 14 yards per catch. Literally, it takes one. Even if Antonio Brown, who oddly enough practiced in full on Thursday

but was listed as doubtful on Friday for a fake hypothetical injury report, I have no idea why they waste our time with an injury report a week before the Super Bowl. It's just a waste. But, yeah, 20.5 is so low that I still think there's value there going over. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I talked to you guys today about potentially like Antonio Brown and like what his role would be if he does play.

But now the full practice, you know, just throws a whole wrench in that. I think if he was like not practicing at all going into the game, you'd probably see him around a 50% snap share. But with him practicing in full, like to me, he's the kind of guy who's going to tough it out no matter what and play in some aspect. Now I think with him practicing a good amount, I think we'll probably see him out there a good bit. But yeah, like Scotty Miller, overs are still in play but i mean you really need to they need to connect on that deep shot uh and that's that's like really what you're banking on here

uh maybe i don't know maybe like a points bet opportunity with scotty miller if you can get it low enough um on the over like you can get around 25 i mean those are the kind of points about overs we're looking for and something that some of the listeners brought up after last week's big hit on MVS against the bar two weeks ago on the box, which was like, I think it was set around 30 yards. So like most of the people who bet on it got like a 76 X win on MVS. And I think so for me in this game, I think Scotty Miller's in a good position to do that, where like your worst case, you're losing like 25, 30 X, but the upside is like 70 X. And then same with like a Meikle Hardman, 30x, but the upside is 70x. Then same with Mikko Hardman, maybe. He's in a spot where his prop is only 20.5.

The points bet will probably bump it up to 32, 33, but he has a chance to hit a long one. I was thinking about it. If Tampa Bay makes a concerted effort to try and bracket Tyree Kill or at least give him help over the top, maybe that frees up Mikikle Hardman for a longer reception or someone else deep when they're paying a little bit more attention to Tyree Kill after he just demolished them last time around. Byron's a banger Pringle.

Yeah, Sammy Watkins. Yeah, or maybe your boy Byron Pringle gets deep. Who knows? But, yeah, I think that's – A couple times. I think that's – I'll probably hit a little bit of points bet action on both just to make the game a little fun. Mikko Aardman ends up with 150 yards, and we're going to the strip club after.

Evan, favorite Bucs receiver here. What's your lean? No, I don't. I don't. Are strip clubs open right now? I think you have to wear a mask. You should probably wear a mask anyway. Do the strippers have to wear a mask. You should probably wear a mask anyway. Do the strippers have to wear a mask?

You said it right. You definitely don't want to forget the mask if you're going to a pandemic strip club. Hey, that's true. I can't even imagine. Oh, God. I signed off strip clubs, you know, about a decade ago. But I mean, I can't even imagine. I mean, there's a distinct smell to a decade ago. I can't even imagine. There's a distinct smell.

By a decade ago, you mean six weeks. Six weeks if he has enough sake. Oh, man. Everyone was storming the Capitol, and Silva was storming the strip club. Yeah, that's right. He was asking Candy if she was still there on the weekdays i think i asked you about the bucks receivers i don't know what just happened yeah get it back on track um no i mean these these receiver situations really on both sides are you know i wrote my matchups comments

like i just i don't know you know i wanted to get it up because people are always like, yo, when is it going up? You know, I'm like, I try to get like one injury report under my belt. And today we got our first injury report and I still feel like I don't know. I don't know about Sammy Watkins. You know, I sort of know about Demarcus Robinson. AB was full practice, but I don't, I mean, are the Bucks to the point where they understand that they actually might be better off with scotty miller and tyler johnson in that you know that rotational role

player uh i don't know um it's it's tough man i and even after tomorrow even if ab gets in another full practice and let's say sammy practice is limited again I still won't feel confident that's what happened like last week Sammy got limited Wednesday and Thursday and then and then he was DNP on Friday and did not play I mean we haven't seen him in so long it's been a long time yeah we've seen Sammy and on Tampa Bay side I think they might be better off without Antonio Brown. So that's a real, that's those are the toughest situations to, to kind of try to try to calculate. All right,

let's get weird. Let's get into the, all the other stuff, right? Let's get into all the Gatorade. Can we please talk Gatorade? One of my favorite bets on the board or orange Gatorade. We have a one,

an absolute concrete one game sample of KC winning the Super Bowl and pouring Orange Gatorade on Andy Reid. Plus 125. It's been the color in five of the last 11 Super Bowls. Orange, someone sell me on something different. Orange is the pick. What do you got? What do you got? What do you got? I would tell you that I would normally have a better idea on Sunday afternoon

when some people were walking around the field. I was about to say. I don't know if the corona is going to make that as possible. So I would normally wait until somebody might have peeked inside. But I don't know. I feel like the Gatorade is going to be sectioned off. And if you're the Chiefs barber, you go by the Gatorade, they're going to kick you out and probably, you know,

give you like a misdemeanor. It's orange. Not only did Noonan point out that last year the Chiefs poured orange on Andy Reed, but what's the color of the other team orange. So why would they not have orange? Orange is the chalk. Okay. I go, I go home to my parents' house. What do they have in the freaking pantry? They have orange mix Gatorade. They don't have, it's not purple.

It's not green, which is the color of blood. You cannot have the color of blood. Try to get your buddy to bet on red. You take orange. That's a cinch. You're just stealing money there at that point.

I think it's an easy one. I totally agree with what Noonan said in our little band's syndicate chat is that he believes that orange should be minus 250 and it's plus 100, and I could not agree more. It should be minus 550. And we're getting it at plus 100. Just take the free money, guys. Best play on the board.

You're assuming the whole teams are using the same color? You don't even like the Bucs. The Bucs' color is orange, Kanish. Think about it. What about red? They can't have red because it looks like blood on their jerseys, man. It's been 12 years since it was blue water. Yellow is scary, though. Yellow yellow is scary i'll give you that

it's funny because this is how knish makes like his money like knish will make 90 of his money just on information markets where he is like i'm fucking fbi jay anthem the gatorade color like he has people seeing what hair color they're wearing at halftime you know like he's just bankrupting local bookies all over the country. Canish, you forced Connor to get engaged because last year, his girlfriend watched him sweat the

National Anthem like he was just like his friend. He lost it. He ruined his life. How much money did you have on the National Anthem? Yeah. You had to buy a ring, dude. You had to buy a ring.

I did buy her shoes. He bought the ring with the anthem money. Well, now half his winnings are hers, no matter what he wins this week. Minus EV play. It's a gift and a curse. It's true. Oh, man. Demi Lovato forever lives on in my heart. What other weird stuff?

Missed PAT. Plus 205. So we're outdoors. We might have some wet. All right, condition isn't liking it. They've already both missed this postseason. Suckups missed six on the year. Buckers missed seven.

The math doesn't add up for plus 205. Bucker does miss some short-ass picks. The math doesn't add up for plus 205. Plus 205 is not an ad. I can't even do this with the math guys I got. Butter misses the easy ones, and he rocks the hard ones. I mean, plus two, it should be more. It should be more. Maybe a plus like 505, I would throw 25 bucks on it. Okay, so what about this one? No flea flicker minus 260 from a listener.

Yeah, I saw that guy in the car. 260 is way cheap for No flea flicker minus 260 from a listener. Yeah, I saw that guy in the – 260 is way cheap for no flea flicker, especially if they're considered – I mean, you definitely want to double-check the grading on that one because, like, if they throw a backwards pass to the wide receiver and then he throws it, are they counting that as a flea flicker? Oh, you're damn right they are. Yeah. In a traditional sense, flea Flicker 260 is way – tell him to DM me where he got that price at because, yeah, that is way –

because, again, it's one of those where people want to bet the yes, they want to see a Flea Flicker. There's been Flea Flickers in Super Bowls that everybody, you know, remembers. Well, I mean, you can't bet the yes, but I don't think you can bet the no either. I mean, find another bet, bro. Find another bet. You're missing – oh.

No comment. You're missing the only other one we have. That was pretty good, though. That was pretty funny. We have evidence up from last year. We saw Orange Gatorade last year. We also saw Patrick Mahomes thank the city of Kansas City first in his speech. So if he does get MVP, why would he not thank the city of Kansas City again first?

And those odds, you could pull them up on DK, aren't they like plus 400, plus 450? This guy's had some life events, though, since he's engaged and his girl's pregnant. Things are shifting. That goes all too well. If God had got the fans first, the 4 for 4 fans, instead of his wife, he'd be divorced already. Yes, I don't know. I don't know.

Dagle, where do I even find that fucking bat? It's on DK Subway. I didn't find it either. Dude, some of these are very – In our little text message thread, I was like, yo,. I couldn't find it either. Dude, some of these are bad. In our little text message thread, I was like, yo, I'm going to find it. I couldn't find it. Daigle made it up. Yeah.

I mean, Daigle does a great job. Or DK does a great job of, like, organizing their bets most times. But this is just a total disaster. It's a disaster. It is a disaster. I can't find anything. It's better than Rivers. Go over to Rivers, and you will lose your mind. I refuse. find anything. It's better than Rivers. Go over to Rivers and you will lose your mind.

I refuse. I refuse. It's an – He gave me anxiety when I logged on. I just logged off. Oh, my gosh. So, Kanish, I mean, you know, Jared Goff MVP bets for 2021. Listen, comeback player of the year, Anthony Lynn's offense.

What? Coming back from what? Coming back Oh I forgot that Anthony Lynn is their OC Wow This is going to go real well Listen the defense is going to be in some high scoring We'll talk We've got a whole off season to talk about it

It's going to be a great off season His wife looks like It's like a dead ringer for Angelina Jolie. It's insane. I tell you, I got a lot more respect for Goff in the last week after some people sent me something like, hey, the guy, he's reached high levels of play in his career. It's such a recency bias thing around Goff being trash.

He's had quality play. He's only 26. It was a great trade for the Lions. No, all kidding aside, not being a slappy, two first-round picks, and they got robbed. Hey, I mean, if they're straight tanking, then I think it was a good trade. Which I do. Next, I mean, I'm not saying the Lions.

Are they tanking? I mean, they actually have a lot of decent free agents that they could lose. Marvin and Galladay, Romeo. I mean, maybe I don't know if they're tanking on purpose, but they're not going to be good enough to win it. And in a lot of games.

Well, I know, but they have to tank on, they need to hire Sashi Brown to operations. Well, don't worry. We hired the guy that wanted the Rams to draft Goff and then traded for him within a week. So, I thought...

Oh, man. You got Deuce Daly there, too. It's very hand-in-the-dirt coaching staff. Yeah, I think was in there. They got the DC. His name just gave him name, but he was a former player, too. Aaron Glenn. Yes, too. Aaron Glenn. Yes.

Aaron Glenn. Would be phenomenal on hard knocks, the Lions. It would be a great content show with Campbell and that crew to be on hard knocks. We're not going to win too many games, but it might be fun. I like how you're still calling him we. I like how you're still calling him we. That's very sentimental, Kanish. That's for the sentimental condition. Yeah, it was not fun. I would say that at least if anything,

this might be a little bit more entertaining and not as depressing as the Matt Patricia era. You're depressing Connor because Connor had a pacifier last time Deuce Daly was playing and Aaron Grimes on the field. I'm sure the Dom Capers era will go much better yeah i i didn't know don capers was still alive like the picture like i can't believe he's bad like was he was he still in the nfl where'd they even get him from i saw his picture on the website i'm like can this guy still walk around the field i think he was like i think he was delivering door dash and they just called him up and he came over

and ran their defense. Alright, more exotics. Kanish, the people want the novelty props from you. Yeah, what else you got, Uncle K? Or is it too early for you? You're waiting for your agents to feed you the info. You know, against my better judgment

here, I think the weekend, if you can find first song Starboy at halftime, halftime first song Starboy, that would probably be a good bet. May or may not be a good bet. Some moles might say that's a good bet. All right, that's a lock. Where do I find that, Kanish?

One and a half wardrobe changes I think would be another good one for the halftime show. And so those, as far as the – again, those sometimes you got to go. The legals are a little bit tepid with some of those. So you got to go back to the Caribbean, the offshore world to get some of these. But if you're in that world, then I would feel very comfortable with both of those bets as far as locks. A couple commercial ones, too, if they're still out there. Hold on.

I didn't memorize these. I didn't know we were going to go too much into the novelty. But as far as commercials first, if you can find this... That's what you bring to the table, Kim. We're not here for your football. I got a bagel and silver for football. I heard the

Pringles commercial airs before the Tide commercial. And that's why we're here. The Hellmans. That's why you're here. The Hellmans, mayonnaise. If you like mayonnaise, I think the Hellmans would come before the Cheetos. So mayonnaise before Cheetos, Pringles before Tide.

I'm on that on DK. I don't know. Somebody parlay all of Kanisha's novelty props and just get rich and just screenshot that piece. They don't offer these as widely as they used to. I wonder why. Some people in the past may or may not have won a lot of money on these. So they're a little bit less widely offered,

but they're still out there. All right. How about any of the novelties that may be available on legal sportsbooks? Any of the wonky ones? Any of the different parlays? Anything else that we need to share with the people? No, I got nothing

on the legal books in terms of novelty props. Hold on. Do I got to do everything around here? Jesus Christ. You got nothing. You got a five-guy roundtable and nothing for the legal. I mean, Kanish, ever since you were welcomed in the tout game, I mean, you got to step your game up, dude, because –

I know what I should be. I mean, you're not that hot on Gimlin Twitter anymore. You know, your star is falling. Listen, have you seen the follower count? It was very nice of Connor and Noonan to invite you onto their show to pop your cherry.

Here's what I want to know. How the fuck are you getting retweets from Shefty and Rapshy? Like, how much do those cost? Like, I can't actually like you in person or none of that. I see Shefty like, how about this point?

I'm like, what the fuck? How does this guy know? What is the backwards channel deal they got going on there to get that retweet? Do you want me to introduce you? Do you want me to introduce you? Do you want me to introduce you? Is that what you're asking?

Maybe if we can run the 40 against each other and I can bet on it, then that would be something we can get down on there. Oh, man. Punt props. Punt props. This is one I bet a lot on earlier in the week that I talked about a little bit last night. They opened these up way too short at the legals. That were like 32 and a half shortest punt.

In a game that's only lined six and a half punts, if you can find 32 and a half, even lay the juice. You're talking about either it would have to be a shank or like a a pussy punt from like the 35 yard line where where a guy directionally kicks it uh and you know doesn't get it to the end zone it's a fair catch or something so 32 and a half way too short it should be like 36 and a half 38 and a half which is what the offshores had some of the legals were were way too i'd still play 33 and a half 34 and a half if you can find those shortest punt over. That's a good one. That's a good one.

That's a good one. Yeah, I saw that. I don't know where – That's not with the net. Like, you know, if they kick it into the end zone, you know, they're not taking the 20 yards away, right? Correct. Correct. It would be – it's defined as a, you know, if you kick it from the 38

and it gets to the end zone, it's a 38-yard punt. That's defined as a 38-yard punt, yeah. Yeah. I think that sounds really reasonable. Where do you find this? No one should be fucking punting in those short range. I mean, we might only get one or two chances at that. We might get zero chances at that, you know.

So that sounds like a pretty good bet. Yeah. I don't have any more novelty props. The only other one that's a little bit weird was KC first play to be a pass, minus 103 points bet. It's minus 150 on FanDuel, but I guess we talked about it a little bit here. They passed 68% of the time on first down against Tampa Bay last time, 72% overall. They passed 62% of the time in the first quarter on first down this season,

and this is priced basically at even. So you're getting like a 60% to 70% shot at something that's priced at 50%. So I like it. I thought it's a solid bet as well. I know it's not mayonnaise over whatever, but it's something else that's offered on drafts mayo before cheetos mayo before cheetos we've seen the officials somewhat swallow their whistle really for the entire season too um though i will say that tamp is, I think it was from football outsiders. Like they have, they drew 23 pass interference calls on the season.

And that is like significantly higher than any other team in the 35 years that football outsiders has tracked this stuff. That's Mike Evans. Yeah. Brady led the league in DPS. Yeah. He knows what he's doing. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. But the total in the game is 11 and a half accepted penalties. And again, so, you know, they've, I don't know what really we're seeing on an average game,

but again, it feels with, you know, they've been leaning to not call holdings as frequently in seasons past. I know that was interesting. At least I made a note of that before the show to at least dig in and see if I could find any, you know,

season data on what we're seeing penalty wise, but it feels maybe a little high. We'll take a look. Longest successful field goal, 46 and a half. I feel like both these teams know they're not winning this game, kicking field goals, but.

Yeah, but the fucking chiefs love to let, but Kirk, the awesome ones. Yeah. For a dude that misses a lot of short ones, man, he's got such a leg. I mean, he's a stud kicker. Yeah.

Yeah. What about sacks, which I think has been a somewhat popular topic of conversation? I mean, can we get Mahomes sacked three times and Brady sacked two times and get over the four and a half? I think that that's pretty reasonable. I think Mahomes could get four or five sacks. Like, Mahomes might take care of it on his own because I think, you know, the offensive line versus defensive line situation there.

And if they roll him out, you know, if they show more confidence in his running ability, because he's had these two weeks to come off this turf toe injury, and they have just a lot of dropbacks in the game, which we expect, period, right, with our over on his pass attempts prop. I mean, if he goes over 41.5 pass attempts, that probably puts him in the 45 range, and then, you know, probably puts him in the 45 range and then you know whatever he

has in terms of i mean he can get 50 uh drop backs so that would you know put him in i mean if we get three or four sacks on my home i think we get there i like that too and i think there's a plus number on tampa bay getting i in the first sack against or Kansas City getting the first sack I guess and I think just because everyone is expecting with all the offensive line issues for Kansas City that you know they'll be involved but we also know that it's not Brady was never Brady's strength definitely not a strength at this point to be super mobile and and uh you know the chances if you're getting plus money on something like that I feel like I want to take that more so than the leaning on the narrative of.

No, I agree. Also, cause I think you, you touched on it earlier that Tampa Bay is more likely to get the ball first. So you would have the first opportunity for Casey there to, to get the site. They totally come out and aggressive and, and try and hit the statue early and often. So as long as the bucks don't run at three straight with playoff Lenny into the line of scrimmage and punt that I do like that. If you can get that plus money that Casey to get the first sack.

Yeah. How about rushing yards? We, you know, a lot of people got burned last year on the Mahomes stuff. We had some interest in the homes in the playoffs earlier season. Now we're dealing with the toe injury. I think it's 19 and a half, which is pretty much been immediate outcome for my homes for most of the season.

And you know, Dagle any been immediate outcome for Mahomes for most of the season. You know, Daniel, any interest on Mahomes rushing? Not for me. Like we talked about earlier, he hasn't really been running the ball. I guess going back to week 16, he hasn't rushed more than three times since, as we talked about earlier, the box score doesn't matter from the conference championship game since three of his five carries were kneel downs, actually. So, yeah, unless one of the others have a lean on it,

it's not really anything I'm interested in. The biggest bet of the playoffs I had was Mahomes under rushing yards in the AFC title game. And that cash, but I would not feel good about playing that again now with two weeks off. I don't know. It's just the mobility has been such a massive part of his game, especially in the postseason, that if he's feeling better,

I think you'll even see, like, in that game, I almost threw up watching it. He pulled – this is in the fourth quarter when they're up 20. He pulled a keeper and was, like, hobbling, you know, out there on the edge for a nine-yard gain late uh that if he was healthy would have went probably for for 15 and you know had me jumping off the roof but um that's a hell of a luck box win for you condition i mean i you know the money is great It's great, baby. Just like Bill's season went total over. But no, I hate him. What? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I have the receipts. You were completely anti-Bills. You hated Josh Allen. You said he would have a worse season than Sean Glennon. There's no record of that. It wasn't Sean Glennon. I was like, it was the Patriots quarterback. You also said that Josh Allen would have a worse season than Mike Glennon.

It wasn't Mike Glennon. Josh Allen would have a worse season than Sean Mannion and Mike Glennon. It was – who's the white guy in the Patriots that got benched for Cam? Oh, Stidham. Stidham, yeah. It was Stidham. I may have said he was worse than Stidham. Which is not decided yet.

Okay, okay. There's one game left. There's one game left in the season. Who knows what's going to happen? The Bucs can trade for Stidham and he can lead to the Super Bowl. Oh, my Lord. We got another listener one. Roughing the passer penalty plus 155. two most protected QBs in the league.

I don't think that's a bad look, but I don't know. I haven't dug into how many roughing the passer penalties there are a game. I don't think the math checks out on that one again. Yeah, I'm sure it does not. I don't think the same thing I saw. Go ahead. Let me be contrarian here that, first of all, the officials are essentially taught to protect the quarterbacks, right? But if we're in a situation where the defenses are going to be getting close

to the quarterbacks more than on average, which I think that the Bucs defense, you know, their defensive front could against Kansas City. I mean, Bucs is one, man, right? Or what was the line? Oh, yeah, yeah, no, it was only one. It was one. Only one?

Plus 155. At plus money? Kanish, come on now. Yeah, that's 39%. No, I know someone asked about longest penalty over 15 and a half earlier in the chat too and it's the same thing around the the roughing the passer and the long pis happen a lot less than you would actually think like in your mind antidote they stand up their highlight players yeah exactly they register with you but if you actually look at how often they occur relative to those odds, it's just not as –

but you make a decent point where both teams are going to want to pressure the quarterback, so you're going to get a ton of dropbacks. I don't think that bet is as bad as it would normally be with the amount of time that – It's a fine – I just say it's a fine bet. It's fine. I know Evan talked earlier, and I agree with him as far as totals have been all season. Typically, it's been over or nothing for me on totals. I know props, obviously, long-term, if you were taking unders, that's going to be probably a positive EV more times than not. And I think there is a good opportunity here as we get into maybe Saturday evening,

Sunday morning with kegs and eggs, opening up those sports books. And getting the feeling for, you know, people are going to be hitting overs, right? So the late public action is going to be chasing those Kelsey and Tyreek numbers. So there might be buying opportunities shortly before the game kicks off on getting in on some unders as certain things get steamed up. People want things to happen. So betting on things not happening i think is always plus ev especially as we get you know more square money flooding the market as we get closer to kick so yeah no the only thing i would call is i you know i con knows i work with a pretty serious uh prop group on there as far as

and most of the plays are relative to the under. This is the first Super Bowl since I started betting seriously that I'm not going to have a sizable chunk of money kind of spreading the board on player prop unders. I do agree that they get steamed up and, you know, numbers are inflated relative to what they should be in most cases. But it's a game script that scares me a little bit too much of seeing like a, you know, a 42,

35, a 41, 40. It's definitely the type of game that the unders can go South real quick. If you spread them across the board. So it's not something that'll be heavily invested in relative to past Super Bowls. That makes sense.

All right, fellas, that's all I got, unless you got anything else. Pringles before Tide, mayo before Cheetos. And I'm going to double up on fucking Pringles this week. Pringle, two catches, Pringles before Cheetos. I'm going to be slamming a fucking stack of the Pringles here, I'm rich after all the Pringles money that flows in. Next time we do a stream, I'll have this stupid fucking Pringle guy in a shirt

because he won every bet that I placed on Sunday. They all had to correlate to the Pringles parlay that I fucking had. Spoken like a true rookie. But, you know, hey, you've got to pop your cherry at some point. And, you know, hey, you've got to pop your chariot at some point. And, you know, Kanish,

I'm praying for you. I appreciate that. You need prayers. Tell Levitan that I appreciate his inquiry. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I don't need to tell fucking Levitan anything. Did you pay him his money yet?

Did you pay him his money yet? I already paid him his fucking money. The money is all good. There's no money. I'm not going to tell Levitan anything. He doesn't even know anything. He just needs to get his money from you, Kenneth. He already got the money.

I gave him fucking trash odds too. And I handed it to him on a platter. I hope he's happy. We'll get it back next year. We didn't talk anthem. I know that Kanish doesn't have the insight that he typically does, but we have – where we have a duet, I don't know much about him. I know that this – it's a duet.

We haven't had duets in a long time. But I know this woman has been clocks under significantly. Now I was in the colds at an NHL. Who's singing it? I don't even know. It's like a country singer. And then this other chick, the Jasmine something.

I think Sullivan, Jasmine Sullivan. Yeah. Can this, aren't you usually the guy with the man? Can this, let's what's up, dude.

Can I just, I know Dan a little bit. Tell the fucking did DM me tomorrow. And we'll see what what I don't know the the normal Coronas are wrenching into some of the

big game stuff so I don't know if I'm going to get my normal payday there so we'll see what happens. TBD. We'll maybe know more on Saturday.

I got to think with a duet, they lean to a little bit on the over. They have to go slower. They're not going to whip it quick. I mean, first of all, how do you even duet the – well, I guess you can imagine them duetting the national anthem,

but, I mean, they've got to string it out. I think the – I mean, what's the usual – you guys know this shit, Joey and Connor. What's the usual time on the anthem? It's like 1.50 something? It's like two's the usual time on the anthem it's like 150 something it's like two minutes generally is over under yeah yeah i think the last handful i think on average has been like 154 it's like barely under over the last handful of years 10 years or so so we'll see i mean i would think to do that two people want to take the opportunity we can't we don't even know who they are right so like you want to take advantage opportunity. We don't even know who they are. You want to take advantage of getting...

Eric Church. That's who it is. And Jasmine Sullivan. This is not his audience. It's Eric Church. He's a country singer and then Jasmine Sullivan. She has done multiple national anthems for hockey games and she's clocked

mid-140s. I don't think he's done any national anthems at least that that's what i found um so yeah the national anthem of the hockey game was outside at a uh and it was like really really cold she's been through that shit yeah she's freezing her baguettes off she wanted to get out of there real quick and i don't know that there's anything to like draw from her 137 and it was a solo it was a solo thing what do you think about this new like new age terminology like uh where everything is sus and where you say like no cap or whatever everyone says no cap

i mean listen so much ogs like us have been in the game for a while. We don't need them. We don't need the fucking new lingo. So I don't know. Apparently now you can, if you're, I'm going to say something, you know, before I get in trouble, before I say something. If you're an attractive girl on TikTok, can you give out sports betting? Kanish, if you got canceled, no one would notice. Okay. So you can just say whatever you want, though.

So, yeah, some new business strategies here for next year as far as content is concerned. So – Oh, boy. We need to stop this. This is it. Yeah. We're off the reservation, as they would say. Yeah, as they would say, we're hitting

the late-night crowd now that the PG stream is over with. We'll be good for a while. Alright, fellas, appreciate all of you very much for joining us all season long. Cannot wait to watch this game. I can't wait to

give Evan my money on a stupid prop sheet that seems like a good idea every year. And then I feel like I should be getting plus money on that somehow, but I'm not. But yeah, appreciate all you. Daigle, let everyone know where they can find your Super Bowl stuff

that you've been doing all week. At NotJDaigle on Twitter, Roto World Football Podcast in Silva's basement. And I think you should stack both Bucks tight ends and DFS this week. Ooh, baby.

That's hot, bro. You know what? The Chiefs have been getting killed by tight ends too. I mean, we should have talked more about this. We should have talked more about this. Diggle hit it. Diggle hit it good. I love it. I'm going to go build a showdown with that.

Kanish, they've been letting you on more shows lately. Tell everyone where they could find your stuff. That's probably a mistake, Fred. You guys have learned the hard way. At JoeyKanish22 on Twitter, we do some stuff for LionSniper. We were on the deep dive yesterday.

And obviously a pleasure to join, you know, three of the four of you. It's been great to hear from you guys. And hopefully after we make some money this Sunday, get to it in the offseason once Dan Campbell's got the troops ready to go again. And Evan, the man at ETR, everyone, sell the NBA package, man. NBA product is the bomb. Yeah, man, I'm not even a subscriber, but I know it's been crushing. So, yeah, I mean, if you just would have subscribed to the Establish to Run NBA NBA subscription this point and just, just,

just bet the props you would have made your money back like, you know, tenfold. So, you know, we, we tried to do the best that we can, you know, as much as, as much shit as, you know, Kanish tries to talk about me, you know, I respect them. You know, I try to learn from them. You know, Daigle is one of the, one of the most astute football analysts that there is. And, you know, your guys' podcast is badass. So thanks for having me on.

And I can't wait to watch this game on Sunday with you guys. Hell yeah. Yeah, I can attest to that. I've been making money on props thanks to the ETR stuff all season long. So it's been dynamite. So this wraps us up. We're going to be doing this very soon, sooner than later, we're going to have draft contents and draft props to do and,

and all that good stuff. Connor, we're going to find a way to keep this show moving into this next season and seasons past and in present. So thanks for hanging with us all season and we'll, I'll see you all again soon. Good job. Yeah. you Thank you.