Move The Line - The Ultimate Week 4 Betting Guide: Best Bets, Odds & Predictions!

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

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hello and welcome to move the line presented by DraftKings Sportsbook I'm Ryan Noonan joined here as always by Connor Allen here to unpack our favorite plays talk some stuff about week four NFL football Connor what's going on buddy yeah not a lot I'm actually wearing a DraftKings shirt today I didn't even realize that so you know shout out show sponsor DraftKings apparently I'm a company man today company man I'm in mourning I'm in. Apparently I'm a company man today. Company man. I'm in mourning. I'm in all black. I had a white shirt on today, but we had the foyer Louis con news yesterday.

Tough, right? Gonna miss a couple of days. And I'm glad we have the guest we have on today for this, because this Alex Singleton news in the last hour is devastating. And I massively respect our friend on the show today, though he has told me in the past, and he's correct, that Alex Singleton is not a very good football player, but the man was born, he was put on this earth

to bring other grown men to the ground, and we no longer get to experience that. But again, our guest today, you can find him on ESPN. It's a big deal. At Benjamin Solak on Twitter. It is Benjamin Solak. What's going on, buddy? Not much.

Don't ask me for my opinions on Foyer-Lewikon either. I'll probably break your heart on that one too a little bit. But listen. I know. It's not a great coverage linebacker. That's all right. Getting a lot of tackles means, as a linebacker, means you did your job just a little bit too slowly.

And that's what works for you and doesn't work for me. It's a fair point. Again, we can play these games in lots of different ways. It's a game that I definitely like to play. Those guys are both super important. It's also very interesting that Fred Warner, not a massive tackler, because he doesn't allow a lot of receptions to happen right in front of him. So imagine how that plays out.

But yeah, our tackle king removed for the year. Tough scene here. But onward and upward, I mean, Cody Barton sure as hell isn't better. Imagine how that plays out. But yeah, our tackle king removed for the year. Tough scene here. But onward and upward. I mean, Cody Barton sure as hell isn't better. We're going to have to bet on Cody Barton for the rest of the game. I actually like a Cody Barton. Cody Barton's a good player. We'll see how that works out for Denver.

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That should be able to help it out for you there too. All right. Some questions for you guys. I want to talk kind of like, again, overarching stuff. There's some stuff going on. Again, small sample stuff, obviously who you played mattered a lot. We're three weeks through. So again, we have at least some data sample is growing a little bit. I want to get your guys thoughts on some of the, to make the playoff odds that we have out there. Cause obviously we have some, I guess a surprising team in Cincinnati, uh, who's own three. We have a couple of surprising three and O teams, uh, that are interesting playoff odds right now. You guys can take it anywhere you want. If you happen to look at the board, uh, but so like, I'm gonna start with you,

uh, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Seattle, all three, you0, all minus money favorites now to make the playoffs, which make a ton of sense. I think varying opinions coming in on the season. Maybe I think like Minnesota, Pittsburgh in particular, everyone thought like those are really good divisions. Pittsburgh, Minnesota, maybe feisty, but probably comfortably the fourth team in their division. That is not the case.

What are your thoughts on some of these to make the playoff odds? Yeah, I think that like calibrating to the 3-0 stuff is tough uh in the in the history of the league since we've had like eight divisions if you start 3-0 you win your division about 50 percent of the time uh now that i think like that level of uh expected success for for good teams is something that anyone who's been over the last three weeks should be like, all right, well, hang on now, because all the good teams keep losing outright, right? Like we've, it's been a very chaotic year for favorites. And so we should just take that with a grain of salt generally. And so it is surprising to see, I think, we're expecting, you know, 50% of the time we're in the division, we're still kind of a little bit shaky on, oh, is Minnesota going to make the playoffs? Are the Steelers going to make the

playoffs? So on and so forth. The team to me that interests me the most is seattle i i had seattle 7-1 to win the division preseason i think the fact that they're still just minus 150 to to just make the playoffs overall and i even win the division is still just residual respect for the 49ers and the rams which i get and that's why seattle was such a long a long team preseason but it's the nfl nfl stands for not for long right like uh the the best explanation for why i want to fade the niners and fade the rams is just simply they've been really good for quite some time and that that it is just so hard to sustain that year over year right and even like our mind washes over the 4 and 12 shanahan years that he had right it washes

over the 500 year that sean mcveigh had so it's like oh these guys are perennial contenders it's not that easy in the league right you accrue some early season injuries teams catch up to you schematically and all of a sudden you're just kind of floating around uh a middling team so the the seahawks have now a two-game lead on the division through three weeks uh teams that have had that have won the division 67 percent of the time uh since since uh uh the again the eight division format started which is like it's like 12 of 18 teams it's not a big sample but still like they're so fast out of the gate right now they have a legit good quarterback right so i trust them a little bit more than i do darnell and field and fields excuse me and yeah i'm fading the niners and painting the rams just with all the

injuries those guys have so seattle to me is the best look you can shop it around uh i believe draft kings is out at minus 150 i believe there's like a minus 130 34 something like that in the market on seattle to make the playoffs which i think is quite interesting again Again, it's a mix of, to your point, priors, and I know Connor's kind of in the same way. Connor, we were definitely bullish. I mean, any time I had the chance to talk about exciting things from Mike McDonald this season, we were there. Touched on Boye, Mafe, long shot, defensive player of the year,

lots of different things that we want to get access to, ceiling outcomes for Seattle. So we're getting some of our priors met our back scratch there, but then we kind of look at what they've done so far. They picked on Bo Nix. They picked on Jacoby presets. And then last week, whatever they, you know, combination of Tim Boyle and Skylar Thompson is kind of a, you know, tough to understand what's going on there. You look at kind of the defensive metrics they've been through the roof, but you have to remember and see the lens of who they played i'm with so lack here

again priors being met but any other interesting thoughts on to make the playoff odds yeah well i think we'll dive in more to seattle here at the end of the show with kind of their matchup this week because i think that that this matchup is a great limits test for a lot of reasons and like there's a lot of interesting factors in that one specifically but for in terms of make the playoff odds um i think pittsburgh's an interesting team right here to bet the no. I mean, we talked about relentlessly in the offseason, like, oh, their early season schedule has some wins, but their late season schedule is an absolute gauntlet.

Like after the bye, they're playing literally the hardest schedule possible. And so, yes, they're off to a good start. Yes, their defense looks good. Justin Fields is playing some of the best football that he's ever played in terms of playing within structure, not throwing the ball over, not taking sacks. Like all those things can be true at the same time as when you put Justin Fields behind the eight ball and forced to catch up, what's going to happen.

And that's the unknown that I think is pretty scary. And I think you're getting plus money in our know and playoffs is pretty interesting here for this, this Steelers team specifically. Yeah. Schedule is absolutely brutal. So like any thoughts on Cincinnati, obviously, I mean, yeah schedule is absolutely brutal so like any thoughts on uh cincinnati obviously i mean just kind of laying eggs at home to new england and the commanders to start the season the first three weeks is not something that smells like a playoff team uh this is a team that kind of gets a pass in some senses and i think maybe a little so in the market even because cincinnati starts

slow right this is kind of what's happened it's kind of been their mo here uh you know in this iteration of Cincinnati. I think to your point too, historically, there haven't been a lot of instances where a team starts 0-3 and makes the playoffs. What are your thoughts on the Bengals? Yeah, six times this happened, I want to say. And we always have to be a little bit more careful

using to make the playoff historical data than to win the division historical data because we have a seventh team now, right? We have the third wildcard. But in general, yeah, 0-3 is pretty hard. Bengals aren't a good team, haven't been a good team team i was out on them preseason it was under win total they're oh and three they should be better than that they should be like one and two you know they've they've played some close games and and uh they're certainly like you know not the worst but this

this is a bad defense kind of at all three levels um and one of the mistakes that i think we often make when a team has such a hot run as the bangles did in 2021 as we say okay this is going to regress uh you know they completed all these like go balls obviously you know they like all the stuff against the sideline and like you know joe burrow like this and then the defense had this elite run in the postseason they're never giving up more than 20 points like this is going to regress and then when in 2022 when it doesn't regress right they go from being like really really good to being quite good like oh shoot no it's legit no like there's still a come down right like it just it might not happen quite good. We're like, oh shoot. No, it's legit. No, like there's still a comedown, right? Like it just, it might not happen right away, but you're seeing right now a Bengals team

that still has Jamar Chase, has T Higgins back now, has Joe Burrow, but just can't do what they did in 21. I mean, you can't do what you did in 21. It goes back down now to like brass tacks. Like, do you have like a good success rate? Do you have like a balanced team? Can you win in a variety of ways? And they just can't do that anymore.

They weren't great at that in 21 and they're certainly not great at it now. Like the running success numbers look better, but a lot of it is because of when they're running the football and why they're running the football i think that they've done some good stuff schematically i don't think it's enough joe burrow can't drive the football and then defensively man like good night like they do not have enough players in the secondary they have a really really tough defensive line outside of trey hendrickson it might be the worst defensive line of football uh and so you're just like, I have no faith in the Bengals. And if Joe Burrow gets me again with Clutch God, Joey B, whatever,

then he gets me again. But not a scary team to me. Yeah, you had some good stuff on your Twitter this week, looking at just a reluctancy to let it rip. People need to find that at Benjamin Solak on Twitter. Some great game and play breakdowns from Solak there for sure. I also want to circle back to your column this week. I think we're very easy, especially during the season.

Prisoners of the moment. Every season is wild. We have unpredictable results early. We have six months of building up all these takes as to what we think are going to happen this season. Then we get a couple of games of football, and it's really hard not to overreact. In your column this week, you mentioned having a few half-baked theories as to why it's been kind of a wonky start. Um, I don't want to put you in the spot, but let's take one out for a ride. Let's kind of see how it feels. What are you, what are you thinking? Um, I think my,

my prevailing theory is that it's just, it's, it's so much easier to get good offense out of not good quarterbacks nowadays that one, the teams that have good offenses but not good quarterbacks can randomly lay goose eggs on us. And then two, the teams that don't really have good quarterbacks that we think are going to underperform passing game-wise can suddenly have spike weeks on us, right? And then that's how you, like, I think about that Bucks-Lions game where it's like, oh, Goff is great.

Goff has thrown for 400 yards every time he's played Todd Bowles. Oh, Ben Johnson's excellent. Oh, they have all their weapons and then they just were potatoes in the red zone because bowles knows that like if you pressure golf if you make a move like he's going to to pumpkin a little bit and like i think that guy was a lot easier to handicap that jared golf in like 2008 versus now in 2024 where it's like man like if schematically they figure out the right stuff like he's gonna throw for 300 yards of four touchdowns they're gonna put 48 points on the board and if not like he can't work around that like we've gotten so good at elevating so these quarterbacks think about like derrick car and you know they were what six and a half point dogs to the cowboys and beat him by 27 right and

it was like okay like because they're not gonna be able to do against the cowboys defense what they did against the panthers defense and then turns out oh no like you can do that nowadays right so i think because we've gotten so good at raising it's important to understand raising the middle class of quarterbacks right we're just about oh like raising the same raising the floor no it's raising the middle class raising the median there's like when we take these quarterbacks this this tier 12 to you know quarterback 12 quarterback 18 bringing these guys up to get elite caliber play out of them that's how you get some of these surprising upsets and so to me like we we as i say we know because i'm at espn like we're the number one people who do this we want quarterback play to have so much more control over outcome than it

actually does we want every win to be because the quarterback was good and we want every loss because the other quarterback was bad right like that like it would be nice if we could discuss it that way and we knew good quarterbacks and bad quarterbacks but largely that's not the rule largely it isn't largely so much more affects these games, the quarterback play, because of how good we've gotten as offensive coordinators, as star receivers, as star pass rushes at affecting the game outside of the quarterback.

Right. And so to me, like you, I'm, I feel, I feel myself now paying a lot more attention to like running game and, and like those men, like situational football and fourth down decisions,

because we can't just say like, all right, there's the good quarterback. There's the bad quarterback. I know what side I want to be on. We oftentimes, we're guilty of it too, right, Connor? We'll boil it down sometimes. We're just like, look, if we just say quarterback,

head coach, quarterback, offensive coordinator, right, you're trying to handicap a game. And sometimes there's these alarming differences in terms of one side versus the other. It's almost like a tiebreaker, right? And to Solak's point, maybe that's something we need to continue to move off of. Yeah. And I think we look at a great example too of this with Andy Dalton coming in here. I mean, just immediately lighting it up right off

the rip here with Dave Canales and the Panthers. What was it? Second 300 yard game with the Panthers in the last two seasons. Bryce Young has really failed to even come close to most of that the entire time that he was there. It just it just became immediately clear. He was able to execute what Dave now has wanted. He was able to get the ball to Deontay Johnson. Like the office looks functional again, the office of line played well, didn't allow very much pressure, one of the lowest pressure rates in the week. So it's one of those things where if you are a middle tier quarterback, which I think I firmly believe that Andy Dalton, you know, is, uh, and then he can look really good in these situations, especially a good matchups against teams like the Raiders. Yeah. Like the biggest favorite this week is the Niners,

like 10 points over the Patriots. How positive are you that Jerron Mayo can't ruin Brock Purdy for four quarters? Right. And enough to keep this within 10, enough to keep this within his court. Like I, I'm so not positive in that. I'm not yet good enough to figure out if it's going to happen or not.

Right. I think like that's, that's the thing that, you know, we've all got to get better at, but that's a 10 point line so the niners are definitely better than than the pages absolutely they are but the niners don't have elite quarterback back there they have a guy who's very gettable and so if the if the pageants figure out which

screws to turn all of a sudden this is 13 to 9 in the fourth quarter we're gonna have a 10 point dog win the game like that's the sort of sensation now that i feel like is is is why the public is down so tremendously why dogs have been so big so far this year yeah it doesn't set me up for any encouragement here to try to handicap week yeah let's pick some games here we go yeah uh did you guys take a look at anything in the uh awards market it's not a market that i think i think want to do a better job connor and i touched on this is just kind of looking at this and checking in the different like uh points in the season here obviously we have i think a bellmark game there with monday night football where jane daniels goes out in an island game and puts up a pretty exciting performance

right like high completion rates uh running showing some of that ability they win on the road as like a touchdown dog caleb continues to struggle a little bit caleb pretty much like minus or plus 130 or so most of the offseason for offensive rookie of the year. Now out to seven to one. I mean, Jane Daniels is a prohibitive favorite there, Connor, any thoughts on that market or any of the other awards markets that you've kind of looked at? Yeah, no, I mean, obviously Jane Daniels looks great. I'm not ready to buy into that specifically. I think that I'm like most just interested in buying into like as many Malik neighbors, overs,

alts, props as you can talk about it last week on the show, 25 to one to lead the league in receiving right now. He's 60 to one to an offensive player of the year. I mean, still like 14 to one to lead the receiving. Like I think he leads the league in targets by the end of the year for sure. It's a matter of like being efficient with them.

Also Rishi rice, 25 to one is really interesting. I think the lead the league in receiving yards. I mean, I know that he's mostly been a low ADOT guy previously, but this year, Rasheed Rice, 25-1 is really interesting, I think, to lead the league in receiving yards. I mean, I know that he's mostly been a low ADOT guy previously, but this year, like, he's just their guy. Like, they're not getting Hollywood Brown back. Xavier Worthy still has a lot of work to do, but he's great at opening up the field.

Travis Kelsey, they're – I mean, they just take a very clearly, in my opinion, have him on, like, the Gronk trajectory at this point of, like, get him in, you know, make him last the season. He's going to have some big games in the playoffs. Like, right, put it in your calendar. bet travis kelsey overs in the playoffs it's gonna happen we're gonna get value um so i think those are some that popped out to me but curious to hear your thoughts ben yeah i um the rishi rice one is is a good one like they're gonna be the chiefs are always gonna be a high pass rate over expected they're going to throw the ball

a ton and he's the he's the only player that they want to throw the ball to right now all right they will force themselves to throw it to justin watson and to xavier worthy and like i think when marquise brown comes back they will incorporate him but by that point rishi's role is going to be so clearly defined like he's going to end more games with double digit targets than he doesn't so i like that um yeah i think that i right now i think hudgson defensive rookie of the excuse me defensive player of the year, is one where just like, he's plus 340 right now. He's second behind TJ Watt. There's absolutely no way if he and TJ Watt have equivalent stats,

TJ Watt's getting that award. He's won it three times. Hutchinson has not won it. We know how this works. And even if it's like Parsons and Garrett and Watt and Hutchinson down the stretch, they're going to want to give this award to Hutch, especially if the Lions have general team success. Hutch already is starting to accumulate in crazy sack numbers

because of the backup tackles he got to play. But in general, his pressure rate is high. His pass rush win rate is high. I think Hutch should be the favorite for that award. I think that market is cracked a little bit slower than Allen for MVP and Daniels for Rookie of the Year. I do like Caleb for Offensive Rookie of the Year at 7-1 just because, in my opinion, historically, the award. I do like Caleb for offensive rookie of the year at seven to one,

just because in my opinion, historically the award goes to quarterback who starts a lot of games. And, and obviously like Jaden's on pace to start 17 games on pace to start 17. So if a, we get Caleb playing better down the stretch and the bears make a playoff push, which I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility because their

defense is so stinking good. And then B, if we get Jaden missing any time, which we have to say like is absolutely a risk that you run with jayden daniels given the way that he plays and the hits that he takes um i do think like caleb's got got value there because i like malik can play and play well enough and produce well enough to get into that conversation but besides him like i don't think the wide receivers are going to running backs i think i think it's quarterback or malik for that award and then i

want to take devon ashane offensive player of the year so badly at 60 to 1 because he might go a thousand a thousand and like that's only been done three times mccaffrey did it in 2019 and didn't win the award because michael thomas caught a thousand passes which is obnoxious um but it should go to a back if he goes a thousand a thousand right now i think a change on like 900 980 pace or something like that and you have to imagine they're gonna run the ball a little bit more uh with no two for the foreseeable future i think the fear is that tyree hill is just gonna eat into touches like they obviously use a chain as a running back and a receiver but

they're gonna use tyreek that way if they have to down the stretch but still like i i i he's knocking on the door of of that and like probably have like 11 12 touchdowns to boot like that feels like a good look yeah 60 is a nice number there too. Monotone in the chat. Again, just reading my mind. That was the last one I want to circle back on as we kind of transition to some of the week four games here. Right now, your betting favorite in the market is Kevin O'Connell and makes sense.

Kevin O'Connell deserves a lot of coach of the year flowers, like plus 350. Feels like a gap too big for what's going on in green bay with little four 11s 12s out there in the market i think we're at 11 on draft kings um i mean look for them to survive um and not even survive but it's almost the fact that like he somehow found a way to get actually good football performances out of Malik Willis is astonishing. And like, he deserves credit for that, right? Where there's this like overarching green Bay quarterback factory.

They just doesn't matter who puts on the uniform. They just are, they're going to be a good quarterback. This is what happens. Well, Florida deserves a shit ton of credit for it. And now it looks like we're probably have Jordan love back. So not only were they able to survive that he elevated a quarterback that looked like he just had no business playing professional football,

which I know is pretty rough to say, but it was pretty bad in Tennessee there. Any thoughts on that? So like, I hate the coach of the year market more than life. Like I, it is my least favorite market. The fact that D'Amico Ryan didn't win that award last year in Kevin

Savansky one is like, it was disgusting. I was, I was, dude, I was, I was in a hotel room. I think it was like whatever Superbowl week.

I was like mad. I was like pacing. I was dude i was i was in a hotel room because i think it was like whatever super bowl week i was like mad i was like pacing i was now so pissed uh coach of the year historically goes to a team that had like a win total of around like 7.5 8.5 that wins double digit games and just the problem with the backers is that the pre-season expectations for them for them were too high right the packers were expected to be fighting for the division and and winning double digit games by the time we get to week 14 week 15 week 16's going to forget that they won two games with Malik Willis. Like it's needle moving now. I don't think it's going to be needle moving later.

So I, LaFleur should have won the award by now because LaFleur has been an excellent coach. I think it was 2021 or whatever, where I felt like he should have been coach of the year. I might've my years wrong, whatever he's not, I don't think he's going to win it because I think that some team,

I think that, you know, you talk about the Vikings now with O'Connell, some team that had a six and a half win total is going to win 10 11 games and that guy's going to get the award because oh wow they're surprisingly good like my uh mike which one's in seattle mcdonald like mcdonald if the seahawks make the the postseason let's say they win the division gino ain't winning mvp that ain't happening right like you know boy i'm off i said maybe defense player of the year dark horse let's say that doesn't happen they want to give credit to somebody up first your head coach they're good you know McDonald and he probably did a great job coaching but like

the way the award is handed out drives me nuts a thousand percent I mean I Connor you know I cucked you for a defensive or a coach of the year award a couple years ago with you in a preseason a great one with Sirianni uh I got in late week 14, week 13-ish on Brian Dayball, like 30. And to Solak's point, we were prisoners of the moment. Dayball's a perfect example, right? It's like, oh, he won a lot of games. Cool, Dayball, coach of the year. Like, why?

No. Yeah, won 14 games. Jalen Hurts on MVP trajectory. Gets injured last two games. And Sirianni can't win with whatever they threw out there, quarterback. And then, oh, nope, not worth not worth coaching your year I totally agree though this whole thing happened too early like if this happened in week 15 and they won two games like he's like a lock to win coaching the year it's happening in in week whatever three and four

no one's gonna care just watch the MVP odds last year was Dak it was Brock and it was Lamar and then Dak lost a game and he was gone and then Brock lost lost, or excuse me, Brock lost at first to Lamar. He was gone. And then Dak lost to the bills and then he was gone. These awards are decided by who wins games in December. Don't bet into them preseason and then bet into them in December. Don't bet into them in between. Yeah.

Just take the long odds too. That's another thing to take a bunch of that. Last one I want to touch on here before we touch on week four, first coach fired. I don't know what the odds are right now. Cause you don't have them like on a lot of the match six has to be doug peterson right like i feel like it's plus 140 i i we took talked about this preseason like maybe i wouldn't play it at plus 140 but like his seat has got to be boiling hot at this point yes i i saw it on

twitter i can't remember which book it was but i was it was plus 140 i'm fairly certain to be first coach fire which is bananas the funny the thing be first coach fire, which is bananas. The funny, the thing about first coach fire that I'm trying to figure out is like, will bill Belichick take a job mid season or not? Right. Right. Because if he will, then you have to fire your coach fast to beat the other teams who might

fire the coach from Bill Belichick. If he doesn't, then like, and you're going to interim it. And then maybe that changes the logic of it a little bit. So like, that's, I don't,

that to me is like the unique factor of first coach fire this year a lot of content jobs up for grabs if belichick jumps back into a lot of tv hours to fill that guy he is a little bit of everywhere which is interesting to see for sure yeah i mean i went looked at my 15 to 1 jags to start oh and five just to make sure I still had it in the bank. We're still there. So it's going to come down to, I mean, I think that they, they're seven point dogs on a short week on the road,

back to back in Houston this week. We're not going to dig long onto that one. Comes down to a coin flip game week five against the Colts. And we'll see how that goes. So like having the 15 to one in the ticket or in the, in the bank. So, all right,

let's jump in. We touched a little bit about the first one there. ticket or in the, in the bank. So, all right, let's jump in. We touched a little bit about the first one there. Minnesota is on the road in green Bay, jumping into week four here. Basically green base two and a half across the board. 43 and a half is our total out there. Totals up a little bit from the look ahead market. This kind of feels like a pro Jordan love line here and it looks to be the case like moving practicing feels like he's been close here so lack thoughts on Vikings Packers yeah I do think a lot of plays in this one I think that while there's been a lot of gamesmanship in media and impressive availability I think the plan was always missed a couple weeks and try to get you back to the divisional game against the Vikings

I was fading the Vikings before the Texans game I don't think the Vikings are legit. And it's annoying because I was very pro Brian Flores and pro that defense before the season. I have Kevin O'Connell coach of the year from before the season. I liked the Vikings for a good trajectory, and now they're 3-0, and it's like, okay, there's a little too much wind in the sails. And so now I find myself on the opposite side a month later. That's kind of how the NFL moves for you.

This defense is very good at creating chaos and beating you on passing downs. This defense is not as good when you're able to stay ahead of script on them. The thing about the Texans game and the thing about that Niners game is they kept losing on first and 10. Struggles in the running game for both sides, running back absences for both sides. Now you get Green Bay, who just showed you how good they are running the football in a variety of ways, with the quarterback and the league with us, but then also with Josh Jacobs in the hand of ways right with the quarterback in the league with us but then also with josh jacobs in the handoff game with wide receivers uh in the reverse game as well i think they're going to stay on script a lot better and

accordingly be able to put some points here on minnesota and then uh vikings offense against this packers defense that i i think o'connell's gonna take jeff halfley to the woodshed to be honest um this is not a good tackling back seven for the packers at all And they've kind of gotten away with it for the last couple of weeks. But if you go and you watch the film, you watch that Eagles game, like they just really struggle when athletes get the ball moving in space. And that's what, what O'Connell does so well,

right? Get just Jefferson moving over the middle of the field. Jordan Addison, potentially back for this game, get these guys into the second and the third level with the ball in their hands. I think it's a lot of points. So over 43 and a half is what I took in this game.

It's on, on side. I think it's very tough. Cause I think there's going to be turnovers. I think it's a lot of points so over 43 and a half is what i took in this game it's it on on side i think it's very tough because i think there's going to be turnovers i think there's going to be chaos i just expect fast pace explosive passes a lot of points josh jacobs definitely has exceeded expectations con everyone to put him out this is just like 28 29 a lot of miles on him i was there i'll i'll i'll about josh i love josh jacobs great player i believed i'm very happy the first month of the season. Please don't get banged up. Guy has been awesome. Connor, what are your thoughts on this one? Yeah, I think this game, for me, comes down to two things.

One, does Jordan Love start? As Ben mentioned, I think that that's going to happen. I think he's going to start. Two, how do they handle Flores just absolutely blitzing Jordan Love's face off when he's probably not his most mobile at this point? And so we saw that in the second game that they played last season a little bit. Like in the first game, it was just a little bit, like I would say, erratic. Like it was like a little bit all over the place. That was still when Jordan Love was finding his footing though.

In the second game that they played, he played extremely, extremely well. They handled that chaos well. They were able to get Jaden Reed a lot, like, you know, because the Vikings do a lot of like zone blitzes. And so I think that like going against that with jayden reed and getting in more into space getting in the ball out quickly is probably going to be the reaction there with passing the ball running the ball i think they're just going to have to be creative you know that they're going to have to try and counter basically the blitzes because obviously you don't want to

run directly into the blitz but if you can catch them blitzing from the wrong side or you know for out of a different gap like you'll be able to get a lot of advantages there. So the running game from a prop perspective, I have no idea how to play. I think I'll be on some Jaden read overs. I'm a little bit worried that Jordan love just like, I mean, isn't able to move all that well. And like, you know, if the blitzes are coming, he's not able to move a ton, but at the same time, I do think that there'll be enough. I mean, we just watched the floor turn bleak Willis into like an absolute baller, you know, like I, I am very confident they'll be able to figure it out here with jordan love at the home so i do like the overlook that that ben gave as well from a side perspective i think i'm probably

not playing it either way i will say love was grade one mcl sprain which from what i understand is mostly pain management and so i do think that he should be able to move near a hundred percent. Cause it's not like, like the limitation in the muscle or ligament. But I'm also making this up. Cause I don't know. Doctors. Yeah. But grade one.

So theoretically he should move well. Cool. I don't think I made the case here. Touched on it last week somewhere. I think there's something to be said. We're like playing against Flores is like equivalent to when a team especially in like ncaa tournament matches up against the syracuse zone uh you just don't see it very often and like it's a little bit harder to like practice especially when you're out of like you're in the

tournament you maybe you're playing the second leg back to back like two days off you don't have a ton of time to practice for the zone like it's a little different when it's in the division you're at least a little bit more familiar with with what they're doing there and again like he hasn't been in minnesota for a long time but i think they probably have at least a little bit of familiarity with what he wants to do and it is a really good offensive line in terms of pass protection too so that that helps quite a bit so it's going to be an interesting one uh especially on the right side of 43 or 44 uh i think the over probably is a good look juiced up a little bit but you could find some

flat 43 and a half out there too. Another divisional game. We have the Saints on the road in Atlanta. This is another one. Kind of stayed. It's moved a little bit from the look-aheads. This is Atlanta two and a half everywhere. This is like one in the look-aheads. Again, Atlanta kind of keeps it competitive on an island

game against the Chiefs on Sunday and then the Saints obviously struggle for the first time in a game against Solex Eagles, which I'm excited to kind of get his feel for here. The Derek Carr, Clint Kubiak presidential ticket stalled a little bit. And again, like the Eagles kind of exposed the offensive line issues that I thought we were going to see with new Orleans early in the season, did a great job disguising. And I think all that like pre-snap motion play action can obviously

slow down the get off for the opposing pass rush a little bit that offensive line has continued to take beatings uh Eric McCoy now out uh all pro center kind of like the only real consistent redeeming offensive lineman there Carlos Ruiz looks like he might be a question mark for this game as well. The problem is Solak is a, I don't know that the Falcons can really take advantage there. Again, one of the bottom teams in pressure this season. What do you think about this matchup?

Yeah. So Cesar Ruiz and Alvin Kamara missing practice on Wednesday. And so until I know what I'm getting there, I don't want to touch the line. If Ruiz and Kamara can both go all over the Saints, this Falcons defense can't stop the run uh this is the worst defense in the league by success rate against the run their sixth worst also against the pass which not for nothing like they played the steelers was one of their three games like this is a lot this is the problem like they they gave this up to justin veal from those boys like this is this is not a good defensive front they

don't get after the passer and they lose in the running game. They lose off the ball. And so I'm worried if I have to go with an interior offensive line of Lucas Patrick, then with McCoy back up in and with Ruiz back up in with these tackles. At that point, I'm like, okay, maybe this running game won't work. But one of the nice things about the Shanahan running game is it tends to be like, all right, plug and chug alignment, and we're just running zone. You know what I'm saying? We're doing basic stuff. We can kind of interchange guys a little bit easier.

And so if I can get Kamara and Ruiz back there, I think the Saints are going to run this football extremely effectively. And so accordingly, I would like the Saints plus two and a half a lot. If we don't get those players, then I think it's not a look for me on either side. But I'm going to go and look for Jamal Williams rushing props. And I'm going to go and also look for Taysom Hill rushing props because Taysom is playing more running back slash fullback this year than he has in any other season. And they're willing to just give him the ball in a handoff

game. And so if I do miss Kamara, I don't want a part of the side, but I think there's going to be like, like if Taysom opens it, like, Oh, 29 and a half rushing guards, I'm hitting everything that I can find on that. Cause I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 12, 13 carries. Interesting. Yeah. Practicing today. So it looks like he's turning in the right direction, Connor. Yeah. And then with Kamara missing practice, obviously that's not a great sign there. What was most notable to me was like the Saints, especially against the Eagles, were not able to implement a lot of their play action

because Jalen Carter was just like living on Derek Carr basically on every play action because there was just the interior pressure was just so much. It was more than I can remember in a while that they were causing havoc. So for me, that was just like my biggest note is that if, you know, we get a little,

a little bit here, a little bit back for the offensive line, like that, that could help. But like, can David on your model, Grady Jarrett, like get pressure on the interior.

Obviously those aren't like, there's not comparable to the Eagles, like kind of interior. So it's like, the Eagles are best interior defensive line is better than anybody on the Falcons right now. Like the, the,

the cliff could not be bigger. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So that's what we balance here. So like, like to Ben's point, like if, if they can run the ball and if Derek Carr can get time, like with play action, I mean, the saints are going to cook, cook the Falcons. Like it's not going to be close. So definitely like a wait and see for me on that as well. I mean, that's what, you know, we were Derek Carr over bag holders or I was last week and that was pretty sad

to watch. I mean, from the moment that they know, we were Derek Carr over bag holders, or I was last week, and that was pretty sad to watch. I mean, from the moment that they started rip and play action and he was just, the defensive line was all over him. I'm like, oh, this is over. Like, they're just not going to be able to do anything. Yeah. Carter couldn't get home, though, which is very frustrating. You know, needs him to get over on a sack total of the season.

To actually dominate and not be able to get home is frustrating. I think that probably changes this week, though. That brings us to the next game. Philly is on the road in Tampa. Again, another spot where injuries are going to be massively impactful. We look at currently on the board, where are we at with this one? Same thing. We have the Eagles, two-and-a-half-point road favorites here,

44, 44-and-a-half is the total. Again, A.J. Brown, Devonta Smith, Lane Johnson, all questionable. favorites here 44 44 and a half is the total again aj brown davonta smith lane johnson all questionable um kind of beckton maybe as well that gets really interesting it's really this matchup of eagles offense bucks defense because we have um entron winfield vita vea collage you can't see all questionable for tampa bay so we need to really i think get our a grasp of what happens there. I think the other side is pretty clear. You got pretty much a healthy Buccaneers offense

and a fairly healthy Philadelphia defense. And Baker's back to his sack taking ways. And I think that's going to be a problem. Last year, massive regression for him, or I guess maybe, I don't know if Dave Kanellis deserves credit for it. Pressure to sack rate, kind of middle of the pack for the first time ever for baker mayfield 19.4 percent 25 uh 25th out of 41 qualifiers again not great but like he's always cleveland carolina la like one of the

worst in the league he got the ball out of his hand significantly quicker last year 3.57 seconds time to throw we are back up to four seconds time to throw his pressure to sack rate has doubled we are up to 36 he now leads the league in pressure to sack rate so good spot for for jaylen carter and the rest of the eagles so like what do you think yeah so it makes it very clear i was all over the eagles against the falcons and then asia brown got hurt on friday practice and then i was still all over them and they were up by six and on a five and a half point line and then they lost that game and then the next week i was all over the saints just demolishing them i thought the saints were gonna take me to the woodshed and the saints were winning the game

they had the game one and then dallas goddard had a 65 yard catch so nobody nobody should listen to me on an eagles game because at this point like i'm just i cannot believe that i'm losing these bets on a team that i should know better than any other team in the league. With that said, Jalen Hurts has historically been very bad against Todd Bowles. Bowles has a really good rush plan for him. No Devontae Smith and potentially no A.J. Brown makes it extremely difficult to pass this football. Now it becomes a run funnel game, right?

It's Saquon and this running game and just trying to stay ahead of the six so well and then go RPO game and go screen game against a bucks run defense that like certainly could be missing some guys but also like todd bowles has shown us historically like if he needs to put 10 guys in the box to stop the run like he will do it like this this is one of the most committed defensive coaches in terms of getting a plus box count and winning against the run i think this i think the bucks win this i think the bucks should win this comfortably uh i like the way the running game is developing now with bucky irving i love the the play they're getting out of there too uh wide receivers in particular chris godwin from the slot eagles have had a ton of trouble

dealing with slot receivers so far this year like the bucks should win this game it's a it's a good matchup for them styles wise and then they're catching the eagles at a really bad time health wise with their wide receivers we'll see what actually happens because i can't predict this eagles team but that's where i'm at. All right, Connor, we got to lay two and a half on the Eagles. What do you think? Yeah. I mean,

Brent Ben brought up some good points. I will say this buck second year, that's been beat up, you know, 29th and drop back success rate, pretty average. And other metrics here, I've liked a lot of what the Eagles have done so far this year, but like,

it just can't be overstated how big of an impact AJ Brown, Lane Johnson, Devonta Smith could make to this offense. Like, I mean, these are like three of their, the three best players arguably outside of Jalen Hurts. Uh, and so comfortably beyond Jalen Hurts, like Hurts is not a quarterback who elevates his team within, like after injury, that doesn't happen.

So like, this is, it's, it's alarm bells, dude. Yeah. Which is, yeah. It's pretty rare to see something like that. Like literally three of the most impactful players, even like in the league. I mean, these are massive, massive game changers here so obviously watch the injury report there i think that we could see like some of the most impactful late week movements one way or the other depending on these guys um statuses here because it legit seems unclear

whether any of them or all of them are going to play at this point um so definitely something worth monitoring there and obviously if you can catch a stale line either way that's maybe how i'll play a catch a point or two of value if something big breaks there. Because I think that they are, like, that's significantly more impactful in my mind than, like, the Bucs being healthy, at least just from my standpoint. Like, if the Eagles guys are healthy,

I'm probably more interested in playing the Eagles. But, you know, if both are healthy, like, I don't know, I'd probably maybe pass or still play the Eagles, to be honest, if they're all healthy. Yeah, definitely news to watch there in terms of, I mean, historically we've seen, yeah, Bulls will commit and do different things, as Solak points out. I mean, Vita Vea on off splits in terms of what they do rushing success rate wise, rushing EPA wise, it seems to really, really make a difference. They're 29th in rushing EPA allowed right now. Success rate's a little bit better than that.

But like without this, maybe under 44 and a half allowed right now. Success rate's a little bit better than that. But without this, maybe under 44.5 is a look. If you can grab that quickly, if you can get that hook, I think it could matter if you get that injury news a little bit quicker there. All right. And then, you know, bye week for Philly in week five. So maybe you want to be careful with these guys if they're close. I don't know if that ends up mattering.

You don't want to obviously lose games in conference if you don't have to. But I think i think you know chance to rest a guy another week um poor i mean davante smith got wrecked uh that's not a large man he got absolutely destroyed uh from behind that game all right i don't have a great feel for this one this is a sunday night game buffalo is on the road against the ravens. In terms of just specific handicapping, I mean, Ravens two and a half point favorites, 46 and a half in the total. I just think the Bills getting two and a half

is the right side. I think the Bills getting two and a half, you're teasing them up through the three and through the seven is a great look. If you like to dance with some long teasers, I'm not a believer in the Ravens. I don't think they're like a bottom team, but I think the impact of what they had all off season on the defensive

side, schematically losing three coaches to defensive coordinator jobs, the offensive line struggles looked a little bit better last week against Dallas. Still not a big believer. And although it's a short week on the road in Buffalo, it feels like a dream spot for handicappers, Connor.

But I just think the bills are a better team. So if you're going to give me two and a half, I'm going to take the, the bills and the points. Yeah. It's I'm, I'm taking bills money line. I mean,

I don't know this, maybe it's crazy. I think you brought up a lot of good point here, a lot of good points here, but if we look, if we were looking at this bill's offense here and they were still going to be a run heavy, you know,

spot here, which they have been mostly under Joe Brady. We saw last week, they came out in the first half, 27 dropbacks and just six running back runs, uh, before the two minute warning here last week for the bills. So we saw them like Joe Brady was like, you know what? I think I see a big advantage here in the passing game. Like I'm going to just, we're going to throw a lot of that, the running game out and we're going to go past every year. I think here against this Ravens team right now, they are top 10 in basically every rushing metric, top five, most rushing metrics. And they're bottom five to six in dropback success rate, dropback EPA, things like that. And so

I think that I would be in my mind, very clear to do something similar. And I think that Josh Allen could have plenty of success here. Obviously it's a little bit different comparing this Baltimore defense to Jacksonville, you know, stylistically. But in terms of just like efficiency-wise, I think that we see a pass-heavier approach here from Buffalo, and we see them just really try and get after it. Defensively, I think that's, in my mind, kind of a wash. But I'm curious to hear Ben's thoughts.

Maybe it's just me and you on an island, Nunez. No, I strongly agree, Connor, with your read on Bill's offense. I literally just wrote about it because it because one of the games in my column this week where it's less than like that, you should not be running the football into this Ravens front, right? The Ravens have given up one explosive run all year. And it was the Xavier worthy end around.

They have not given up an explosive run this year yet to a back, right? They've not given up a run over six yards yet this year to a back James Cook, longest rush problem, half yards, by the way. And so like you,

you are, you are looking at what, what a really, really good defensive front for defending the run a really really good second level for defending the run parade safeties for defending the run and then a cornerback room that's just got a lot of questions and it might be the case that the cornerback room is coming around the corner because nate wiggins is coming back from injury right and they're they're changing the way they play the nickel now our darius washington got a bunch of snaps like maybe they're figuring some stuff out but to go right up against Buffalo and have that be the test I just think that like yeah they locked up Jalen Tolbert and Brandon Cooks with the with the Cowboys now you're dealing with a passing attack that has multiple guys a receiver in Keon Coleman and

Curtis Samuel and you've seen them play Khalil Shakir Matt Collins right all these dudes and then you have Dalton Cade and Dawson Knox and then you have James Cook out of the backfield like if if you want to test your guys man coverage against that, like, I just think you're going to lose. And so I, I really like a positive pass script for the bills, either out of the gate to build a lead or if they fall behind in this game, right?

Like it's the Ravens. There's no team in the league that likes to give a second half lead up faster than the Ravens do. Right. So I think it's going to be a big day for Josh Allen, passing attempts and completions and a big day for this passing attack and overall I think it's it's absolutely correct to be on bills plus two and a half like the Ravens offensive line is getting better just as the corner room is getting better but again like it's week four and it's against Buffalo like I think

if this were in week 13 maybe I'd have some more faith in it I think that the personnel issues the new coaches is just too much for for the ball sport to overcome in this one yeah totally agree and this is why to your last point too with their ability to give it back uh late in the fourth quarter that's why i think that's such a great teaser like to be able to have you know buffalo more than seven uh regardless of what ends up happening in the game if that's a way that you like to get down you find something else there's some other ones on the board a couple we've talked about um you know depending on how you know if you're a pro saints saints are nice on the leg on that too so uh last one is a monday night football game one of two the second of two uh we have the seahawks on the road in detroit this is down to three and a half uh total 46 and a half basically across the board looks like

there's a rogue 47 out there again touched on it earlier context matters seattle taking some ass they beat up on some bad quarterbacks though again like 2.9 adjusted yards per attempt 17.7 yards per drive absolutely elite and bonkers numbers now again another spot where injuries massively impact i think our handicap here on both sides of the ball uh we had on seattle side leonard williams and byron murphy leave last week's game with injuries. Kenneth Walker, still a different dynamic of this offense when he's on the field, don't know his status. And on Detroit side, tough one as well. Sam Laporta, ankle sprain, Brian Branch, concussion symptoms. We don't know what happens there. Elon McNeil, again,

last year, it's a pretty drastic splits. It's a great run defense, but when McNeil's on the field and not on the field, some pretty numbers uh that happened there and then Frank Ragnar was a center losing him for an extended period of time is going to be a problem we'll see if it impacts them this week they also lost Derek Barnes and Marcus Davenport for the season so those guys aren't even questionable this week those guys are out so uh so like what do you think about this one yeah so I had Seattle plus four and a half at open. I think the line is fair at three. And right now we're at three and a half. So I still lean Seattle.

Cause I think you're getting the hook, which is nice, but I think we're, we're a lot tighter to what it, what it should be. Detroit. Think about what we've learned about this Rams defense and how Detroit should be able to just put them away. And instead let that thing get to overtime. Think about what we've learned about this, this Cardinals defense. And then what, you know, the second half looked like for Detroit,

where they couldn't put enough scores on the board to kind of salt this thing away. The Buccaneers injuries, right? And the ways that Bo Nixley will take advantage of that, but they weren't on offense. Detroit is fine, but also we have yet to have the performance from them this season offensively that's like, oh yeah, this offense is cruising.

This is the sort of group that I trust. While Geno Smith and the Seahawks have done that a couple times now right like i like i gino since the beginning of last season has just been like a unquestioned top 10 quarterback in the nfl by any metric that you want to look at and now with ryan grubb like i think they're finding a much more diverse passing attack i don't think you brought up kenneth walker i don't think their offense is where they want it to be just yet i think that they're having to do a lot in the passing game to account for some of the running game issues account for some of the pass protection issues but still like they're getting dk involved in isolation routes in a way they weren't able to last year smith and

jig but down the field in a way they weren't able to last year like this is this passing game is humming they got several weapons they have a really aggressive and dynamic quarterback and they're going up against a guy in aaron glenn who's just going to play man coverage and just going to like you know it's going to go that way for four quarters i think it's still seattle i i honestly i i would lean over on a total of 46 and a half if not for the fact that like it's been 60 under so far this year and scoring is down and like maybe let's let's chill out on that a little bit but i do think it's going to be points and even if detroit has that second half lead i think that gino can throw his way back into a cover detroit has not put teams away

the way they should in the second half so to to me, the dog here is Seattle for sure. Yeah, so that makes a great point. What we've seen the last couple of years with Gino against Mann too, Connor, has been really good. Going to find some nice matchups here. I'm sure getting a slot, I think, with JSN. What do you got here? Yeah, some of my biggest interesting points here would be on the Seattle

defensive side and how they match up here against this Detroit offense. I went back and looked at kind of how the Ravens played this Detroit team. And that was a tough game to take too much from because they, I mean, they smoked them. I mean, they were up 14-0 in the first quarter. Like it forced Detroit into a dropback game. And I think that we saw after two weeks ago where Detroit blew the game against Tampa and didn't really play well. We had a Jared Goff like back-breaking interception, you know, in the second to last drive there.

And then we saw them against Arizona shift. Like, all right, we're just going to run the ball, you know, like as much as possible, trying to control the game. Still almost bit them. But, you know, like again, like I thought that that was like a meaningful shift to back to what they want to be essentially. And so in this spot here, I'm interested to see if that's, if they're able to do that because Seattle defense played really well on the ground in week one and like top three metrics week two, uh, we're hit for like 170 rushing yards. Um, like, you

know, I think that there's a chance that Detroit is able to run the ball. It's just a question of whether or not, like how does Seattle counter that? What do they focus on here without Sam Laporta? I think that that takes away some of their, uh, you know, the Detroit's passing game there specifically. So it's going to be a little bit of a chess match. I hear, I think between McDonald and Ben Johnson and kind of like what wins out. I personally would lean Seattle plus three and a half as well. Just given everything we've seen, especially on Seattle's offense, you're like, I'm not convinced that Detroit's defense is really any good to be honest, outside of Aiden Hutchinson. It's like, does Aiden Hutchinson get a pressure in a sack?

You know, yes, no. Their run defense is great. Like that's, you know, what I'll give them. But, you know, again, like in a spot here, if maybe they don't even have 100% Kenneth Walker, like that shouldn't be a priority for them anyways, to be honest, like they should be focusing on passing the ball here. Injury report again, another one that massively matters. Again, recording on a Wednesday afternoon, just,

just getting coming to some of that preliminary stuff as they come out on a Wednesday. So hard to make a concrete decisions, but again, these lines are available. And if you find that there's an edge to be had now, something for you to jump on. So those are all the games I had guys.

Is there anything else you guys want to highlight before we take off and the game and jumped out to you? No, I don't want to bet the NFL anymore, so I don't want to know. No, these are the most debate ones that I'm looking at this week. Any keys to victory that we have to look at?

That's to be done an hour before primetime games. That's to be released for the masses. You can't be sneaking those out too early. I haven't looked at any of the primetime matchups yet, so I don't know. That's fair. All right, Cody, anything to wrap up? Bears minus two and a half.

Just gets back on track. Rams are just beat up so bad. Not a now or never, but kind of a now or never for the Bears. Looking better every week. Caleb Discourse, I think, is pretty bad online right now. I can't honestly say that there's been anything worse than having Justin Fields, people in my mentions,

for the last year and a half still talking about this. So happy to have – hopefully have that put to an end here if Caleb starts playing a little bit better in the coming weeks. DJ Moore longest, Rome longest. Those are – All of them. Rams are trot are not us. You know,

like we're playing defense right now for the Rams this week. So yeah, I'm I'll probably be back on bears again and I'll probably hate every second of it. Yeah. I'm ready. That's why I think the Caleb seven to one is, is interesting.

Cause that's the slate of opposing defenses coming up is just absolutely just soft. If it doesn't happen, it's going to be, it's going to be trouble. It's going to be trouble. Commanders, Cardinals, Rams, Jags, just a bunch of soft ones.

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