Move The Line - Week 2 Betting Recap & Week 3 Early Predictions!

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

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Hello and welcome to Move the Line presented by Sharpstack, Ryan In and joined here for week three I'll unpack a little bit of week two by Frank Conner All. What's going on, buddy? What's up, man? Yeah, it was a rough week for me in the prop streets, but I think you absolutely crush. So, I mean, you love to see that, right? So it's like one of those things where I might not have had the best week, but, you know, some of it due to injury, some of it just due to, you know, a couple bad plays.

but I think you absolutely murdered the slate. We got to balance it out. I mean, you know, we're talking before we get started here, feel like when you do this publicly and we are sharing bets and people are tailing bets and subscribe and pay for those things, I feel like we definitely wear the down weeks, you know, more. They hurt a little bit more than the good weeks feel good. So I'm trying to feel good about the good week,

carry that momentum into week three because, yeah, I mean, look, it's going to happen i'm going to get you know my teeth kicked in here in a couple weeks and you're going to absolutely print and um again hopefully we balance each other out over the course of the years you know we also have hunter and we have you know jake those guys doing great work as well and then we'll get to the end of the year uh we'll all be up and hopefully subscribers are happy we had a good year because you know you got to think long game you got to think 22 weeks or whatever however long we do this uh it's a lot more than than week the week you know just kind of hold on so yeah i don't feel like you had any bad process bets you just had some bets that's just

kind of that's how it goes injuries are going to happen that that's a that sucks i mean the the juice one was i thought a great look uh it gets you know a five reception you know a five-yard reception right away he just needed one more he was involved and then gets thinged up that's that's painful one of our subs too in the chat was like yeah i'm pretty sure that like uh hbacks had like over 40 yards receiving in this game like after like in total and I was like that makes me feel it works like you know of like oh like we would have easily gotten there right it was like because then they had just put in some randos in there and like they were crushing like eushch was going to use even more like this is going to be like like we I bet some ladders I bet some 15 some 25 plus was like

four to one at one point like I mean it was that was tough that that one hurt yeah that is tough about patrick in the chat Fandul and draft kings are now giving injury refunds, which is kind of wild. From a customer acquisition standpoint, it makes a ton of sense. They did give me a refund on Fandul. I bet it on Fandul. They did give me a refund. And I was, it's funny, I put in some, I've been putting in some bets for, you know,

one of our, one of our coworkers and their total square bets. And they're so like, and they were like for a lot of money. So I was thinking, I was like, man, they're already giving me bonuses. Like, you know, this is great. Like, I'm going to keep putting in these total fish bets. And then I was like, oh, no, this is, this is just a news check. okay like I was like this is they're not that nice just because I put in a couple of fishy bets Notre Dame and bears money lines yes yep yep exactly amazing all over it's yeah yeah parley um

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We gave it out on our Mayo show. We joined Pat Mayo live 10.30 Eastern on Friday or Monday mornings, if you want to catch that too, just kind of our early thoughts and then Monday night football thoughts as well. So I check that out on Mayo Media Network too. So all right, Connor, jump into some week to review, some big storyline takeaways. And I want to look at division laws. I don't think we do a good enough job at staying on top of how some of these like future

markets kind of come out and I want to do a better job with that this season. So floor is yours. Top takeaway from week two, anything you want to touch on, any teams you're maybe adjusting up, adjusting down, floor is yours. Yeah, I think, well, there's a couple one. The first one here is a game that we, you know, didn't necessarily forget about, but it was last Thursday. The Packers defense is legit.

I mean, it's easy to forget because that game is so long ago, but they are awesome. They're getting pressure. They're playing lockdown defense. They made the lions look ridiculous two weeks ago after. And then they just put up 52 on the Bears. They made a commander's team that, I mean, I think they're still kind of figuring out their kinks and everything. But, you know, it's like, it's, I think they're going to be in a good spot like, you know,

the whole season. So this Packers defense is awesome. 3.5 yards per play for the commanders. I mean, that's, this is a, I mean, it was a juggernaut offense last year. 3.5 is insane. yeah they're a unit that's i mean yeah that was like something that i was going through back through all the games because obviously watch all the games you know forget about a couple you know whatever about others and i was like man we got to touch on this because this packers defense is

extremely legit packers now third or fourth thing it's super bowl odds and it's great because they're not just a good defense but they run the ball and then they take these crazy deep shots like jordan love is kind of fun it's fun to watch not super consistent but that's that's okay I like watching that. I think it makes the viewing experience significantly better. Their receiver rotation is going to be a little bit interesting now with Jaden Reed, likely out for a while, maybe even more Tucker Kraft.

Craft is really coming on, I think, showing his full potential. And, I mean, I think there's two ways to look at it. It's like, yes, they don't have, like, an Alpha receiver necessarily, but it also means that there's no, like, you can't just, like, bracket one guy. Like, you're going to have, you know, Dantavian Wicks running deep downfield potentially, he might drop it but you know like he's not going to be they're not going to bracket that guy you know it's like so i think it makes it more multiple and that's kind of a unique angle obviously they'd love to have matthew golden step up or saviun williams or anything like that but um we'll see

i'm i'm confident the packers keep it up to be honest i am too i mean again they were both home games but those are two absolutely dynamic offenses from last year and i don't think you know again we thought there could be some regression for detroit uh you know post ben johnson and that it makes sense some losses up front along the offensive line but still playmakers then when you see what they went and did in week two you're like okay this is still a dominant elite top five offense and they get their lunch handed to them in a pretty big way in the division in week one so yeah it's packers now currently the favorite on draft king's plus 320 to win the nfc uh at eagles of 360 you know basically both double where Detroit is, and you're right.

I mean, they are third on the Super Bowl odds list behind, you know, Buffalo and Baltimore. So we've shifted. How really is too early? It's not too early, buddy. The equity is, I've already looked at those tickets a couple different times. And, yeah, I mean, it's not too early. Connor and I, if you missed our divisional preview series preseason, both picked pre-trade, which I think it's important to specify there, pre-micotra.

trade were on Packers and Ravens we both had Packers Ravens Super Bowl so we immediately had to bet that bold outcomes both you know Packers to win the NFC lose the Super Bowl and vice versa off of the Ravens so yeah the it's not too early but feeling good yeah I was going to say it's just they're a good team they're going to be they're being you know contentioneering the NFC like it's them it's the Eagles I think pretty clear tier drop out for that for me in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah, I could free roll the Super Bowl for, you know, a big old fat Super Bowl card free rolls would be pretty much. I'm already, I'm already telling you what's going to happen is we're going to get like a Packers, like, Bill's Super Bowl or Packers Chief Super Bowl or something.

They can get totally screwed and be right. And then the Packers will lose. So none of our Packers Super Bowl tickets will cash either. I think I got a Packers NFC ticket somewhere. But I don't think I have as much on it as like the other three or four things that I bet. Yeah. I had already about Ravens, you know, Super Bowl and, you know, it was like, all right, well, now we definitely have to fire. So, yeah, there'll be hedge opportunities when we get there. It's a little bit easier to hedge if we get to conference championship game. We have all four teams, you know, we have both teams remaining there. So we could figure some of that out. But, yeah, those, those line movements are pretty fascinating. And, you know, currently,

Reba, minus 200 to win the division on draft Kings as well. So, yeah, and again, look, they they won against Detroit so it's like they you know they have that extra half lead to right that head head advantage so um how about the bangles yeah post post borough bangles uh we did a little bit of this with pat yesterday we've seen jake browning we've done this before it looks like three months you know i don't know then i feel like that's speculative so you're probably looking basically anywhere from maybe like week 14 to like missing the entirety of the season. What are your thoughts on the Bengals?

Are we viable at this point? I mean, I think you had them outside the playoffs to begin with in the AFC to be. So I can't imagine that you're bullish on the browning lead bagels. Yeah. So what are they two and oh right now, technically, right? I believe. Yeah.

But then the next four games are real tough, man. At Minnesota, at Denver, against Detroit at Green Bay. that's a real tough slate. I mean, maybe, I mean, Minnesota's, their offense hasn't looked good at all with Jay, J.J. McCarthy, he's out, but their defense is still great, I would say, for the most part.

So this is a really tough matchup, I think, for Jake Browning. I mean, you know Florida's just going to, like, set in the house. Maybe Jamar gets loose on a couple of long ones, but that's brutal. Denver's a really tough matchup. Detroit, again, I mean,

there's still a good team, and then Green Bay, defense's looked lights out. So, and all those three of those four games around the road, it lightens up a little bit, after that but like i mean browning's got to survive these next four games and i'm not sure they do they already brought in some qb competition i mean qb competition in air quotes mike uh you know and they're talking about maybe adding someone else maybe a kirk cousins maybe james winston something like that um that wouldn't neither of those would surprise me either to be

honest so i'm a little worried i'm not going to lie at least for the first next couple games yeah i think it's hard to be optimistic especially as you mentioned the next month is is is kind of a daunting task. And again, they start heading into this 2-0. And again, Brownie has reps. We've definitely seen some iterations of this offense with him and he's been okay. And, you know, it's just as,

they just can't have a normal season. And yeah, it's a week-to-week thing. I'm kind of with you. I think this is a tough ask coming right out of the gate with, you know, taking on Minnesota, who is such a unique team to game plan for. it's not a team that you play often they're not in conference uh they're obviously not in your division so just something that you don't see a lot of which i think makes it a pretty interesting

matchup so um we'll see where's that line now again we're waiting on some injury information but as we have seen in weeks past this matters less and less like these games just get posted they're not super worried about uh you know getting crushed in anything that can happen injury-wise these games just go up on the board it's great because our so our look ahead lines tool at 4-4 still like is plugging in like live look headlines throughout the season so it's kind of cool I mean they're their dogs in the next four straight games but um only three point dogs in Minnesota only three point dogs at green bay in week six I mean I would bet that right now I mean Packers minus nine and a half alt you know Packers minus three minus six and a half

seven whatever you want to bet I think they're probably good too because they might just absolutely demolish this Bengals team yeah How about the Colts? Colts are, I mean, this is fascinating to me. Look, you know, you can't argue with the results. And again, the caveat that this is, without a doubt, the best surrounding cast in Indiana Jones. I guess we're no longer doing Danny Dimes as now Indiana Jones has ever played with, right? Like, they are sizable favorites to win the division suddenly.

They are plus 130. The Jags are plus 2 in a quarter. The Texans at plus 270. The Titans, their matchup this week are at 13 to 1 to win the AFC South. Should we be jumping on the Colts bandwagon at plus 130 to win the division? What do you think? I don't think so. I mean, I like the Colts.

We talked about it a little bit, but I think the Colts are good. But I think that the value here is probably just kind of buying low on the Texans, in my opinion here, honestly, this one. They're like plus 270. The offense did look better at times last week, I thought, especially early in the game, end of the game, not so much. Todd Bulls kind of just started firing all cylinders and, like, sending some heat and Stroud and Nick Cayley had just no answers basically for that. But, I mean, like Nick Chubb is still looking better. They're using more Woody Marks. Like, I'm sure they're going to get Christian Kirk back, who I think will actually make a big impact just like on their, like, the short

passing game and everything there. So I think, and their defense is still. really, really good. So I think that the Texans are a good by-low spot. That being said, the Colts, like they are right now, I mean, they played two awesome games offensively. Third in EPA, third in success rate offensively. Now, again, one of those games was against Miami, so how much do you discount that? But they played against Denver.

They played awesome against Denver. And I think there's some stock that should be put into that. And then we got coming up here, Tennessee this week. And we got the Rams, the Rams. the Raiders, the Cardinals, Chargers, and then the Titans again, they're going to be underdogs in a couple of those games, which makes sense. But I think that they're pretty live to keep winning a couple of those games as well and just be like maybe 500 going forward and win some other games they shouldn't.

So like, I think they're in contention to win the division, but I don't know if there's like good as their metrics say right now. I guess that's fair. Yeah, any Jags thoughts? I mean, Patrick's calling out to schedule getting easier here. Obviously, you know, they won week one. We obviously didn't think it was in exciting fashion, considering what we think of the Panthers

and the Panthers continue to confirm most weeks. And then didn't take advantage of a Burrell-Less Bengals team last week. You know, obviously they're not firing on all cylinders. We have some concerns about, like, there's just, I don't know, I feel like big media, mainstream media gives Trevor Lawrence a pass continuously. like he just just rarely get and again i'm not watching the talking head shows on espn but i don't i don't know that we're getting a lot of uh trevor lawrence segments it's like what's going on here and just seems to be kind of just a jag literally um and not necessarily a talent elevator

what are your thoughts on jacksville i mean Liam Cohen has beef with like brian thomas and uh trevor yeah i mean you you saw the the video it was like Trevor like you know Liam Cohn was yelling at him, like, basically, what are you doing? Like, what's going on? Just do, like, what I'm telling you. And Trevor Lawrence kind of gave him, like, the nah wave, like the, like, you know, from the sideline. I mean, first of all, that is wild to do to your head coach.

Clear lack of respect there. Two, Brian Thomas, just like, I mean, the Brian Thomas tape, there's been some cutups on there that are just, like, rough, not going to contact, giving up on plays, didn't go for the fumble. I don't know what's going on there with him. like but this is not clicking this is not like the upside jagg scenario we we talked about uh that seems pretty out of reach at this point outside of the running game the running game looks good everything Texans Texas 9ers chiefs Seahawks Rams um that's not great like that's not

I mean they can win some games in there but like it might light up a little I don't know it just it looks like it gets light late um and not necessarily um you know coming up again the texans we have questions i have questions for sure but i think that they probably in the division have the best singular unit i think the texans defense is better than any other unit in that division um and that helps then you got to go on the road of the niners chiefs seahawks um you know three straight home games but that's you know chief seahawks rams is a tough tough stretch there um we yeah i don't know i'm not i'm not buying the jags we buy them after the buy um you know buy a little bit of a dip here because

And it's like, yeah, like a lot of easier games down the, down the stretch there. But yeah, it's not good right now. The vibes are really bad. It's not a team that I want to bet on particularly. I think the owner in that game is interesting in Jags, Texans. I don't know. I mean, that that Bucks Texans game, he was going to shoot out last night. And then just like, really stalled.

I was like, oh, boy, I'm wrong on this one. This game's going to be like 30 to 30. and then ended up being 2019 and after like, I don't know, what, 27 points in the first quarter and a half? Yeah, and it held forever. Yeah. It's tricky in the division because I don't necessarily buy into the cold stuff, but I'm also kind of just overall down on Houston's offense and this Jacksonville slate is tricky.

So, yeah, it's just a wait and see. So I guess maybe it makes sense that there's not a bet that I would make now. you know, they can monitor it moving forward. But, yeah, it's, I think it's just going to be some nutrition. They're going to beat up against each other. I think those top, those three teams kind of beat up against each other. And the Titans can win some of those games, too, right? Like, I think that we think the Titans are awful, not a threat to win the division, but not awful.

They could be competitive. So, you know, that's a tricky one. And good for Daniel Jones. I mean, we liked Shane Steichen, believed in that. Right. You know, I thought they've had a lot of good drafts over the last handful of years. years you know jeff's in the chat um you Jeff loves to drag me for any pro cult sentiments that I've had over the last couple years but I've I just think that they've ended up you know a bunch

of guys that I like late in the draft and they end up drafting a bunch of them every single year I'm like all right well they're putting a collection of athletes together that I really like I feel like the coach might be encouraging and maybe get something out of them so we'll see again wrong than Anthony Richardson, but, you know, Daniel Jones stops in and is getting it done. So, yeah, it's, I mean, when there's scheming up plays like that, Tyler Warren's just like an absolute stud already, crushing Michael Pittman's playing well. Josh Towns came on really strong last week as well. Like, I mean, when things are happening like that, Shane Seikin's in his bag and Daniel

Jones is delivering. So, um, and Jonathan Taylor is, I mean, playing like 95% of the snaps looks awesome. That helps too. So like, I think the bull case that, you know, you made in the office season for the Colts, potentially being good. I mean, it's kind of panning out. And, like, their defense isn't necessarily good, but when you have, you know, big Lou back there,

sometimes you can make some stuff work. Like, it's, they'll do some crazy shit that, you know, people haven't seen or, like, you know, aren't expecting. And he'll make it work. Yeah. They're going to give up some explosives. They did last week, too, but it was enough to win. And they benefited from a call.

That was, yeah. I mean, the leverage call is real. I understand why it's in play. It just feels like it's one of those rules that just doesn't get enforced all the time. And it feels like a, a late fourth quarter game winning time is just it's it almost has to be egregious in my opinion it didn't feel like it was but how how many times do you think uh like Vegas made the call was said uh you know throughout america when that happened i'm sure you could do a Twitter search and

I'm sure you could find it for sure yeah it's just like you know it is fun to go ahead and and look at like any big time popular prop pick he goes down early in a game and he just like like people tagging Fanduil and draft kings and be like you better fix this and like it's just you know it's just the egregious people wanting their refunds and now they're just like you know what? Leave us alone. We're just

we're building it into the game. We're refunding you if these guys get hurt. Right. So it's so terrible. Oh, it's ridiculous. Brian brings up a good point here too. Stuygens settling for 55 year's joke because I think he there's like nine seconds left with the timeout. You like handed the ball off for like a three yard gain or some like that. And so it ended up being, yeah, from like a 59 to like a 50. five-yard field goal.

I'm personally probably trying to get a little more aggressive there, but I don't know. They missed the first attempt before the leverage call. So, I mean, bad process, good results, I guess, if that's what we're going with. Yeah, no, that's true. It's wild how many guys just routinely make 50-yard field goals these days. Like, 20 years ago, it was not a thing.

And now, like, you get the ability to start at the 40. 35 but 40 if you know you don't kick into the landing zone all of a sudden you need like two place like a you know for brandon obber you need a first down and you're in field goal range it's like it's nuts so yeah we saw that last week right a ton of overs yeah the insane amount of of 60 plus yard field goals and um you know just games going over just you're you're you're never out of it um yeah and the kicking ball the new kicking rules and all that stuff it's it's kind of insane. I want to shift to the NFC North because yeah, this is an interesting one. Packers,

as we laid out the favorite here, minus 200 in that division again, leg up on the Lions because they won the first head to head. Lions 270. Minnesota also, again, a divisional win against the Bears. Kind of an egg laid on Sunday night plus 750. Now we have questions about JJ and how long he'll be out. bears 35 to 1 now to win the division two losses in the division which complicates things here obviously starting 0 and 2 pretty strong history of you know it's basically it's it's you know obviously magnified early in the season

but some of the work and I for shame on me I forget who did the work and basically an 0 and 2 start you're basically a 10% chance to meet the playoffs although that is no different than if you lose two games in a row at any point in the season it just obviously is magnified because you're owing to you're right there's the optimism of coming into the season and all of a sudden you're you know you haven't going to win yet um but doesn't look good for chicago either which is compounding the problem um we're here locally we obviously you hear it a little bit more we have you know we're not bears fans i'm not going to tell mayo mayo he mayo thinks you're a bears fan and we're going to let that that ride out on

monday mornings i like it yeah but we're in proximity of bears fans um often. And I feel bad for him, to be honest. I like when the bears are good. I like when there's optimism in the city, new head coach, first round picks, spend a much of money in free agency. It doesn't look good about what are we doing here? Yeah, I think the biggest problem is the defense right now, to be honest. So like, I know, like, I don't know, maybe I'm a Caleb apologist. He keeps playing better. I don't know. He played better last week. He wasn't perfect it wasn't like awesome by any means but i mean it wasn't necessarily terrible like he still has a lot of problems ben jons said the same thing he's like it was i got better it was wasn't great

but it was still like you know it's getting better and i agree he's looking he's putting the ball a little bit further down field that looks good the defense is a problem when you have no keiler gordon you have no jalen johnson the defense actually played fine when jalen johnson was on the field like they got a couple three and outs in the second quarter like early in the game like it was like 147ish something like that you know like bears were hanging in there Jalen Johnson goes down and I mean they're just a turnstool again like basically back to the fourth quarter of the Vikings game and like anything that the Vikings wanted to do they got it in the fourth quarter anything the Lions wanted to do they got it it was like easy easy game for them and so I think that I think we just drastically underestimated like how bad the secondary might be without those two guys yeah I mean like who are their starting corners without those two guys at this point I don't even I don't even know right now it's like I mean, it was Nashon, right? And then he's still going to be.

And now Jalen Johnson is out for longer. So Tyreege Stevenson played almost every snap against Detroit. I think go particularly well, which is common with Tyreeks Stevenson. So, yeah, it's not great. And now again, Jalen Johnson out for an extended period of time. T.J. Edwards is in the middle of that defense. Out with a hammy comes back, reaggravates the hammy. He's going to be out for an extended period.

time again. So these are, you know, important injuries and, you know, not necessarily cluster at a position, but cluster in terms of starting key contributors, right? The loss of Edwards and Gordon, right, Gordon's a corner, but he's a slot corner and he's a dog. He really helps their run defense. Those guys being out really makes an impact. And then Jalen Johnson is, you know, an alpha top five lockdown coverage corner. And you laid it out. I mean, he mattered when he was out there. And he, you know, when he wasn't, it did too. So, and now he looks like he's out for, you know, a very long time. That's a problem for them. So it's really hard to be optimistic for anything. When you think about, like, what Ben Johnson wants to do holistically, like,

if you can't defend the past, like at all, if you can't defend the run all that well, and you can't run the ball on your own, it makes just like you have one facet of the game that you are basically relying on to carry it. And it's Caleb who is really too inconsistent right now I'd like to really do that. Like, yes, he makes him awesome plays occasionally. But on a play-to-play basis, it's not great. And you can't just go out there and throw the ball because he'll get eaten alive. Like, you know, it's not going to be great.

So you need some kind of foundation of running game. They have one of the worst running games in the league. I think NeNecombe tweeted out. I was like dead last and EPA and success rate in their running game right now. And like, that's a huge problem. Like for Ben Johnson, I think he doesn't need to like run the ball all the time, but you need some semblance of like four or five yards occasionally on the running game. otherwise like it makes the passing game like i mean again they're just going to sit back and like

light boxes sit back and it makes a really really tough even with good good receivers so i i mean i don't want to like throw in the flag here they're favored against dallas this week at home i mean i think they're going to lose they got to win that game i mean what are we talking about anyway at this point i mean got to win the game for what like in the sense of like i you know i don't we were you know had concerns that they were a playoff team to begin with um yeah yeah it's it's tricky i mean obviously they're not a threat to win the division um but i think it's really important for the development of caleb and what that is moving forward for them to show um a little bit of a pulse and a little bit more competitive play

now again they were obviously competitive in week one and showed out and i think a lot of times we're talking about like you know offensive coordinator scheme and all these things are often talking about the passing game right we have high expectations of ben johnson and what he can come in and do with caleb uh it's what they can do through the air but like keel john or like ben johnson was designing an electric running game in detroit as well right behind an elite top three offensive line and two really strong above average backs one absolutely electric back they do not have that but part of that guy under swift sucks dude i know he had a couple good runs early i think he's blows I mean, I just, like, I couldn't be more out on him.

He ran through some open holes early, some great run plays during the scripted plays. Couldn't run it all after that. I mean, just it's a mess. It's a complete mess. Damn bad. Yeah. It's not great. I got two other quick notes real quick, two, like, quick hitters.

I think the Niners are going to keep finding a way to make it work with their soft schedule and the whole team injured. Mack Jones, I thought, played pretty well down the stretch, almost through for 300 yards with like again like back three backup tight ends as his top targets and joan jennings and uh ricky pierce so i think they're going to make it work and then i think the brown's offense might start to go run heavier with judkins back because they kept passing a lot and flaco just got like eaten alive now green bay this week at detroit next week Minnesota the week after not a great slate here that you think Flacko survives that

that stretch I think they might like yeah physically both physically or just like in generally he's like my age he's dropping back like 95 times through two games or something I mean that's just that's a tough that's a tough ask yeah I mean probably not at some point when you're like hey we we're pretty we're pretty terrible and their defense can be competitive and keep them in. And again, that game, you know, 41, 17 against the Ravens wasn't that. I think it gets skewed late, you know, the scoop and score from Roquan, and that game was a little bit tight. So the defense can't keep them in games and at least allow them to be competitive. But at some point, you need to see what you have in the kids that you drafted when you know

that, like, you are, get to October to your point, turning the page a little bit, you need to kind of get an understanding of do we feel like we have something here depending on where we land in the draft do we need to go out and address the position again do we have maybe one or two answers is this a quarterback battle we can go into next season with with gabriel and chador or do we have an answer with one of them right you kind of you need to get that answered soon than later i think to your point so but that was the point to begin with it was like all right do you want to start the season with flaco give your fan base the thought of us being a little bit competitive we're going to throw out the veteran and see what we can do but you kind of have to

shift gears soon to later especially the slate that you laid out of what's happening here so maybe even week three i think always makes sense to us when you look at that extended by where you play thursday night and you'd have technically 10 games or 10 days before you get into that week four game to allow the rookie to get a little bit more of a ramp up into it but feels a little early i think we see flacko for a little bit longer yeah yeah i tend to agree well i mean we'll we'll see it's not like I mean, not like they have really a ton of upside. I think Flacco provides them the most like passing upside right now and like stuff. But I mean, you never know.

I mean, Gabriel could be fine. Chatur could be fine. We have no idea. You know, they're just like I feel pretty good that they're not going to be all that good. But I don't know. It's not like we're great QB evaluators one thing. Yeah. Yeah.

You said you had a couple. Did you have another? No, it's the Niners ones and the Browns ones. Oh, I guess one other market, futures market, though, least wins. I was still seeing, I mean, I don't even know if this is right. Dolphins and Jets are both still nine to one. They're like fifth or sixth and odds. Like, is that, is that right?

Like, doesn't seem right. I mean, maybe the table just hasn't updated or something like that because, like, we got a, yeah, what is it under futures? And then it's like, what? Yeah, fewer swings. Yeah. Saints plus 360, tie with the Browns. Giants are six to one. This is Draft Kings.

Panthers at 7 to 1. Titans, Jets, dolphins, all 9 to 1. So technically they're both tied for the fifth Shores odds, bears next at 13. Yeah, it's live. I found it on Draft Kings because I was like worried. Like, oh, maybe our screen just hasn't updated or something like that. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm looking live on Draft Kings too. I mean, I think the Jets and Dolphins are the two worst teams in the league right now. or two of two of the three maybe panthers too yeah i agree i mean i don't i don't think the giants of the worst team in the league their schedule is brutal yeah they're going to keep losing unfortunately well saints and the browns i get why they're the favorites they're not good football teams um yeah i mean there are some bad teams and again it's a sizable drop down from the bears i mean you have those top eight teams uh bears of 13 and then you drop down to Raiders Texans at 40 so it's definitely a the market's telling you it's an 18 race uh which is which is

interesting yeah um i mean i think the browns might win some games that they shouldn't down the stretch i mean they almost beat cincinnati they should have beat cincinnati really like yeah um they weren't i mean they kept the game close for a little bit against the ravens you know that wasn't like so that bad they're going to win some games that they shouldn't for sure um the the saints the saints are pretty bad you know we've been betting against them a lot um and they're tough sell for me for the giants i mean they got they got some juice and pass rush they dropped 37 on a team like that's way more you can say for any of these other teams and then the panthers i mean that was pathetic like an awful performance like i don't know what's

going on there but is i mean it's a complete disaster the fact that they scored 22 points is like only because the cardinals corners got injured right i think patrick brought that up in the chat too yeah the entire secondary went down um yeah i shared that with you yesterday in the morning We were like, you know, little like ESPN notes about Bryce Young finally figured it out in the second half. It's like, yeah, the three starting cornerbacks for the Cardinals all were out of the game. And I'll probably out, or at least two I think are going to be out for this week against the Niners. That was something I bet right away. You get Niners getting points at home, eight points.

But that's shifted a little bit. But we're still under three, which I think is a really strong look. But yeah, you know, I got the dolphins preseason, fewest wins, your worst record, feel good about that. And then there's just, we all feel like there's like a systemic bottom that could fall out here, right? Like training guys, coach fired, entire change, the vibes at quarterback and receivers are so bad. Like he's just, you know, too is almost oversharing on some stuff that's going on in terms of like where like things broke down. and it's just like but that was what Tyreek was doing like hey why is a chain our like goal line back

like I just feel like we probably would score more if we put someone that's just like there's just this weird dynamic if everyone's just like being really honest it's just it's not great so yeah Miami Brian's got in the chat offshore you could probably find something similar though under five and a half wins there for for Miami there but yeah you check that out I think that's probably a decent look but yeah i mean i mean first coach fired he's i don't see that up but i think he was like i don't know minus 450 um some books like most domestic books are pretty weird about like posting that kind of stuff like they're partners with the league and it's like uh yeah it's it's it's messy speaking of messy i'm i'm very reluctant to okay

he's still up here all right tom he's still here we're still he's forever he's forever here in my heart thoughts on brady in the booth last night had set on with the raiders um it feels like kind of a conflict of interest it's kind of messy uh do you have any thoughts on i'm gonna let you know i'm gonna allow you some space to cook here if you want to uh well talk a little shit on me so i don't know maybe have a hot take here, but, like, I kind of think it's overblown. Like, so here's my take. I thought you really.

All right. Here's my take on it. I think that there is a conflict of interest. If the coaches are being entirely forthright with Brady in their preseason meetings and like anything like, or like pregame meetings, why would they do that? They're not going to like, they owe this guy nothing. The amount of times that, uh, you hear an announcer say like, oh, yeah, you know, we were talking with with the coach before the game and they said this guy was going to be huge part of the

game plan. And he touches the ball like once. Like that happens all the time. you know what i mean like they have no obligation to be honest so brady can meet with whatever like he can tell the coaches like the coaches don't have to say shit maybe i'm misunderstanding what what's going on in that meeting but like it's just brady asking questions about like i think who he should be prepared for like who he should prepare for like talk about stuff like that he can tell him whoever he wants i don't know like i get it it's a little bit weird i mean i understand especially

after a little patriots cheating allegations throughout his tenure allegedly allegedly but I don't know like I just don't think that it's that big of a deal because teams like I mean maybe there are some stupid teams the Raiders play the Bears in a couple weeks that Johnson's probably telling him every trick play you know they got going on there but like you know most teams are just going to lie or say whatever I don't know we love DeAndre Swift you know we love Luther Burden could be a big part of our offense you know like look out for him I don't know like to me that's kind of what's going on but maybe I could be wrong. I don't know. What do you think? Like, do you think it's a big conflict of interest or do you think it's overblown? I think it's a bad look. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely not a good look. And like, it's blowing up on Twitter. But I just think that it's, I just don't think that it's like matters all that much. But I mean, the Raiders just got fucking skunked, you know, like 20 to 9. Like, I don't know. I think a lot of what you're saying is correct. I think, you know, there are, again, like there's something to be said for.

or the uniqueness of having to meet with Brady, if you are thinking about what you typically share in those meetings and you have to change it, like that's a different dynamic for teams. And I don't know, it just, it brings up too many, too many questions. But at the same time, like, it seems pretty clear about what he can and can do

and what he's allowed to do. He also, like, just has some rules about what he can and can do anyway in terms of, like, announcement. with like how he has to handle you know critiquing coaches and players and refs um with his position so it is the dynamic is different i think overall i think first of all he's better than he was last year at calling games which is not surprising that he would grind and you know ensure that he's good at what he's doing um and i will to my death you know justify most of uh you know the actions of of Tom Brady who's fantastic for me and my fandom for 20 years and yeah I just think

it's a it's a bad look and yeah I don't know it's it's blown up and I it makes sense and look he's a lightning rod for those things anyway because of the history of you know Patriots allegations and stuff like that so it's even more you know compounding because it's the greatest of all time has been involved in a handful of these different scenarios and now it's like what are we doing this time um it's a little it's a little messy so yeah i saw on the screen i was like oh no i knew i didn't even open the app like i just i know where this is going like it saw and i'm like this is it's not great but he's got the headset on and it's just like he's up in the booth like he's not even like he's not hanging out with you know the davis family you know he's like hanging with chip

you know not necessarily hiding but like you know he's just kind of low key like yeah it's it's not great but didn't matter I wonder. I mean, maybe we'll get like a, I don't know, some 30 for 30 on it in a couple years, something like that and be like, oh yeah, he was actually, you know, knew all this stuff or like was feeding them Intel or something like that. But yeah, I think it's probably just like it looks so bad, but I just don't think like logistically it's going to end up mattering that much. So we'll see. Yeah, I mean in the chat like Brian's talking to like, I don't even think it's necessarily like game plan specific to. Yeah.

You just can get like big picture thoughts on how these teams think about these plays. and Brie's involved in obviously the pre-draft process now and the free agency. It is not necessarily something that I think could play itself out from like a week-to-week edge that you got in the meeting and took to this game, but I think it can be a bigger picture of player evaluation schematic. There's other things other than just like X's and O's on the field. So that's all. Chiefs Row and two, Connor.

They lost three games in a row because they lost the Super Bowl. I'll be worried. Plus 300 to win the division after an 0-and-2 start. Kind of crazy. Wild. I mean, I think almost like it's not a clear path forward of what it looks like, but I almost want to blindly buy it just because, I mean, I don't know, it's like, there's giants, then you play the Ravens,

which is really tough, and then you get Jags, Lions is tough, then you're Raiders again, commanders, like Buffalo. So there's a lot of things. tough games mixed in there, but like, could they come out of this whole mix 500-ish? Yeah, it's definitely possible. And then you're squarely in play probably to still win the division unless the Chargers end up, you know, keep mowing guys down. The problem is, though, is like the receiving court is just so bad.

Like, I mean, it's a bunch of bums. Like, they tried to get Noah Gray involved, five targets, one catch for one yard. Mahomes looked awful. They can't run the ball at all. Their defense is, I think, still solid, but not. like quite playoff caliber spaggs level at this point so I think blindly buying the dip here is probably actually a smart decision I just don't know like I can't tell you how it's going happen but I think that the chiefs are going to find a way to like be competitive in the division

I kind of like it the receiving core is bad now but we're going to get to a point where Xavier worthy is at least like practicing football a little bit so it seems like it's trending to something where he can be back know, even in a, you know, a month, he's probably back before that. But, I mean, that exceeded expectations when it happened, right? Totally. I mean, well, it's, it's going to be crazy. So, like, he could probably play in, like, a couple of weeks.

He's just not going to be able to go up for, like, jump balls. So, like, he can, like, if you give him, like, a crosser and he, like, catches it. He can still run. He can keep it, like, keep it close. Like, that's, like, that's not going to impact him. It's like, if you're going up for a jump ball and he gets hit here, his arm's going to pop back out again. Like, that's, again, as someone who's done this 30 times in my life at this

point torn labrum same thing that he has basically um and it's very uncomfortable and it's not great but like you can still do stuff you can still run you can still like be an athletic which is i mean predominantly what he's doing anyway so like it wouldn't surprise me that much he just wears a brace keeps him uh you know like keeps him in that and like it's good to go in a couple weeks honestly yeah it's interesting i'm i'm i like it i don't know that now is the best window to buy it i might so the chargers keep rolling yeah because look at i mean the chargers um i mean it's interesting what happens with the chargers this week the chargers beat the broncos then they get the giants the next week it's on the road but um you know this

is a shot in their four and oh heading into their commander's game because i referenced that just because the chiefs are playing week four against baltimore right so then you all of a sudden look at probably a one and three start yeah but then your next four are you're you Jacksonville on the road. But then your next three after that are home. Lions, Raiders, commanders. Not super easy schedule, but all at home. And now you're getting a spot where probably worthy's back.

Maybe Christian Fulton's back and healthy. Maybe Rishie Rice is back, right? And all of a sudden, you're kind of getting into it. And the nice part for them is that if they can kind of stay in that range where they can stay 500-ish heading into that game in Buffalo in week nine, your divisional games are down the stretch that's a you know you get the broncos twice late when you get the rest of your guys back your other game week 15 against the chargers ends up being a really massive game for them because they're already going to be down from a you know head-to-head version they need to win that chargers game you're probably going to be healthy right but then there's some other titans cowboys colts style like it's definitely softer later so i want to watch the price i don't think it's i it's interesting right now it might be better after week four if they lose to the ravens and the charges are four and oh and then you know the chiefs are one and three you know that could be closer

to maybe four or five to one and that'd be pretty interesting i like it that's probably the best angle i agree with you um we also got patrick saying i think we see herbert line at 14 and a half rushing yards anymore uh no doubt i mean we're probably maybe like 17 and a half or 18 because he didn't get crazy right you didn't like that was what i was begging for i had some ladders um but i was just hoping they didn't go bonkers and he didn't but like the i'm i'm in like trying to run a little bit more thing is a thousand percent really like jumped off the page in the screen in the first quarter there so yeah if we still see him line and the high teens are right around 20 i'm i'm still in i'm in again for sure love it so love it yeah look for

that one uh and then against you know next couple weeks broncos giants teams that are going to get past rush and, you know, create, you know, an ability to scramble, flush them out a little bit. So that helps. That's nice, too. Totally. All right. Any other divisional things or you want to touch on some week three lines that you like?

No, yeah. Let's fire some week three stuff. All right. I touched on the Cardinals, Niners game. The Cardinals are decimated in the back half. And part of my handicap coming in the season where I thought the Cardinals were going to be a playoff team is that that secondary had the potential to be much about better than people think.

And it looks like, and again, it's Tuesday morning. We're not going to get a real injury report until tomorrow afternoon. They're probably without two for an extended period of time. Max Melton and Garrett Williams. And Garrett Williams is a really, really, really good slot coverage corner. Will Johnson, second round rookie, also left with a hammy injury. I think he sounds like he might be okay, but that's not great. So all of a sudden, they're taking.

themselves to San Francisco. Again, they open as a short favorite. It's still one and a half, basically across the board. We've moved to two at Bookmaker, but I mean, there's some minus one, I'm Fandle's minus one and a half, minus 108. And I think the Niners are a great look. Yeah, no, I just pulled it up here.

Yeah, I've seen minus one and a half across the board. I totally agree. They're like probably my favorite play right now. Bet them last week. I'm going to keep bedding them. I'll take the Mac Jones discount, the injury discount. They're going to find a way to make it work and win games here against teams that are, I think, far worse than they are.

You were talking about having some interest in, again, you like the Colts. It's moved a little bit. There's three on Pinnacle, which is interesting, three and a half. And again, we don't hate the Titans, but what are your thoughts there? It's tough. I think it's probably about right at this point. But, yeah, I mean, I don't know. it's not my favorite anymore at three and a half i mean they're probably still the right side i think

if they keep playing like the hell they have um but cam war is gonna win a couple games he shouldn't and so i i just i don't know if i want to be i don't know if catching the falling knife is there a word like term for that but i feel like it's going to happen and i don't want to be caught on the the bad end of that yeah well that makes sense uh what jumps out any other uh highlights here yeah the i think let's here i was looking at um i think vikings minus two and a half or minus three is good against the Bengals. Vikings obviously start not starting J.J. McCarthy, starting Carson Wentz, honestly, probably an upgrade right now.

Every job, JJ looked. I think they're going to run the ball a ton. I'm not going to defend J.J. here. I'm not going to keep up for him super hard. It was like a 60% pressure rate from Atlanta. No one's doing much with that. Right. First home game, he just had a kid.

Like, I think there's just like he probably in his head, like spinning a little bit like I missed last year I get to finally do it in front of the home crowd I just had a baby like he's like I think it was just a very tough and then they go out and they just absolutely live in the backfield so again I mean it wasn't good ball it wasn't great in Chicago but I agree that I don't think it's to your point I don't think it's much of a downgrade currently yeah going to Carson Wentz but I think JJ I'm not I'm okay with I think he's going to be all right yeah like I'm not giving up on JJ forever like I don't think that it's that I just like he wasn't playing well and maybe he wasn't

fault but it wasn't wasn't working so i don't know how much more of a downgrade we can see a quarterback play because when he wasn't pressured he was you know throwing the ball into the dirt plenty and making overthrows it was just it wasn't good um so yeah i think that i think viking i think they're going to give browning just a real tough time honestly in general and then i think on the like even if went sucks like on the ground and the viking's had a pretty significant advantage here just running the ball with jordan mason so um i like that that angle there with the Vikings, two and a half. Packers, Browns, under 42 and a half. I think it's real nice. I think the Browns might give the Packers some trouble, honestly, just in general,

just like kind of keep things in front of them. And the Packers' defense has just been lights out. I mean, so good. We talked about already. And this Brown's offense, I mean, like, I don't know how they're going to move the ball consistently, to be honest, really against this Packers defense. Yeah, they're not. One that feels like super fishy. and reactionary and it is moved which is you know i guess makes me feel a little less fishy on it because the falcons were three and a half point favorites on the road against the panthers um it was a little shorter and look-aheads but it opened at three and a half and we've kind of climbed out to to five fandole still has a four and a half look i just don't i don't know what

traits brys young has that makes you encouraged um the offensive line mine is now taking on some cluster injuries, that's a problem. And I'm kind of buying, I was buying some of the Falcon stuff and I felt like maybe I needed to pump the brakes because I felt like I was in my own little like IDP bubble and like rookie bubble, but I really kind of fell in love with a bunch of these Packers rookies, like Billy Bowman Jr. on Xavier Watts along with, you know, I talked about James Pierce Jr. every show for a month. Jalen Walker showed some juice a little bit. I'm like, am I just kind of in this like rookie mode of like, oh, I like these guys and they all land on the same team.

But they all are balling out. Watts is playing awesome. Billy Bowman's been fantastic in the slot. And then we finally got home with both rookies creating pass rush. Leonard Floyd's there. Like, I'm not, I'm kind of buying the Falcons a little bit. And I think they're significantly better than the Panthers. But I feel like short week on the road in the division, back-to-back road games, there's something.

some, like, situational stuff that makes me a little hesitant, but what are your thoughts on Falcons Panthers? I don't have too much to add there. I mean, they're going to eat Bryce down alive. Like, he's, he can't do anything right now. Ted looked really good in a lot of play, especially in the first half. Yeah. He took a lot of plays off in the second half.

I was intensely watching that game because had a lot, had, you know, some Tet alts just for fun. Like, I was that drafting sports book and just like hanging out. So about some Ted alts. I mean, he was loafing it in the fourth quarter. Like, he did not care. at all. Bryce Young wasn't even looking his way like he knew too. So there's some weird kind of stuff going on there. I think he only saw one or two targets in like the fourth quarter and

Bryce Young dropped back like 20 plus times. So I don't know. It was weird. We had some weird vibes there for sure. But when he got the ball and when the plays were designed for him, he looked awesome. So I think that's like kind of their only hope to move the ball here. They lost, as you mentioned, two interior offensive linemen. So like it's, it's going to be real tough for them to move the ball, I think against his Falcons team that's been playing really, really well. So yeah, I think falcons minus five is not a bad look i don't know i mean again like a road game falcons lane five against anyone seems like a lot but um it's probably the right side yeah uh brian mentioned in the chat a j terell banged up on the outside yes and probably out and to be honest i think maybe one of

the more overrated quarters to the league um i thought that he doesn't matter but he's yeah i like a lot of the other pieces there um you know when thinking about hey how in the context of like They didn't absolutely destroy Minnesota. I'm always very cautious of like extrapolating anything from a Minnesota game because they're so unique to play against. So now we're talking about going up against the Carolina defense that has no punch, no teeth, no pass rush against a, you know, even a depleted Minnesota team that had the ability to bring pressure from all levels.

And, yeah, it is, I think, a very, very, very, very different thing to try to, you know, draw any corollary lines from what that look like compared to what we think this matchup is going to look like. That's very, very different piece in my opinion. So important when the Broncos and the Chargers, you know, I thought that might move a little bit with how the Chargers you played last thing. And again, they play with their food a little bit too. but that defense is also really good. Home game, not a huge home field advantage there for the chargers typically, but any thoughts on Broncos chargers, two and a half basically. Juiced out, we might be cooking the three,

but there are some flat two and a halves. This is a tough one because, like, I don't know, maybe I'm like a little shell shocks from what we saw the Colts due to the Broncos last week. And Pat Sertan did miss some time. Do we have a status update on him? Is he fine? good to go I think he came back right you came back yeah I think he'll be okay but we'll obviously know a little bit more tomorrow yeah I mean it's it just might be kind of like a tight close game

here like in kind of lower scoring so I don't know it's one for me that's a kind of a stay away like I think the chargers obviously look great the even Justin Herber looks great but I think the Broncos are kind of just like a feisty team that are going to keep keep chugging along here and find a way outside of you know again leverage field goals and things like that so i don't know for me it's just to stay away honestly yeah i'm kind of with you um the totals what about a little more total work yeah what about the eagles uh are you buying them at three against the rams rams playing them tight last year um well at the end yes um like they were winning by like three two score two and a half scores maybe yeah and then uh rams had like two late

touchdowns and then almost won the game uh so but it was like a snow game kind of ish too right it was like a snow weather game which obviously i think favors the eagles pretty significantly so the problem that part of why it's viable and i think it makes sense why we where we see the line is that how the rams want to win is right now kind of where you can attack uh philadelphia like in the secondary when they have you know dory jackson out there just seems like teams know wherever he is and that's where they're going for So, you know, I three and a half on Circa, it's not something I'm, you know, and Fandall actually has it too.

There's some three and a halfs. Yeah, Pinnacle already at three, which I think is interesting to bookmaker there too. So not anything I'm jumping to bet, but I get why someone would take the hook on the ramp side for sure. So another one that's tricky is that the Raiders commanders game. I wanted to like the Raiders and then situationally it's tough they didn't look good obviously that's tough um it's a nightmare scheduling wise for the Raiders west to east you're you know having to go short short week um and your team you're playing against played on Thursday night

commanders at home they just been sitting there so you know you obviously have an advantage anyway on the short week coming off of either Thursday or Monday and now it's combined so you basically each of them is getting you know extra rest on top of bit so warming up to the commanders here um you kind of down on them in general well you think uh jaden plays or does that mean that that would matter but i mean that's the fact that again that's even out here right that's it's crazy yeah um yeah i don't know i mean do you think he's actually in danger of actually missing does it read that way to you it's that's what i thought like i mean it seemed like status and doubt that's like you know was like one of the quotes from yesterday's report which

maybe think at least there's a chance. If he does play, I'll be taking some rushing unders for sure on Daniels, maybe attempts, maybe yards. I don't know what those will be out at, obviously, but I don't think they're going to do any design stuff with him, probably. Yeah, good call. I still have to monitor for sure. Yeah.

Fascinated by how the Jets, well, again, we'll have to see concussion status of Justin Fields. But, again, teams skews so pass-heavy against Tampa Bay historically. the Jets just even in that game against Buffalo refused to skew pass heavy or you know I wanted to just run the football uh completions under maybe uh just because like they don't pass the ball that much anyways and like Tampa Bay is going to make him his life so bad maybe it's just sacks or better better play honestly like he might take like five sacks yeah that's it's a rough one and that was seven and a half um so I'm surprised we've you know we moved to seven

flat um yeah interesting for sure so bucks feel like a solid teaser look if that's your jam you can definitely make the case for for that i'd be surprised with how the jets looked last week if they were to go in they have some injuries in the secondary too so we'll see what happens there so if you report on uh wednesday it'll be interesting so that's it for me sweet yeah i don't have too much else i think packers browns under um nineers minus one probably favorite look ahead right now or like early one and then a little texans jaggs under i think is interesting too yeah both like that Niners look so go ahead and grab that so yeah all right head over the site 444.com

slash plans seven day free trial on sharp stack we're looking at the odd screens right now we have the same odd screens for props you can look at the ev tool again all sports so you we obviously spent a time looking at NBA but look you get WMBA stuff in there right now market based projections already popping some passing yard stuff you got some early week three stuff I played last night Devon A chain over 29 and a half receiving yards, which I thought was an absolutely egregious number. Already after 37. Market seems to have agreed.

Tough to release that because at the time there were even fewer books and some of the early limits on a Monday night for a Thursday night game might be a little bit tough. But yeah, I think you used to find a stale 34 and a half. And I mean, look, they're going to be trailing massively. It's been a massively, I think eight catch. and eight targets or something like that again last week just like he did the week before he's a massive part of their passing game so like that quite a bit some ceiling outcomes there but i feel like i

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