MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories - The Discovery

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Today’s podcast will feature 3 stories about terrifying discoveries people made that would change their lives forever. The audio from all three stories has been pulled from our main YouTube... channel and has been remastered for today's episode.Story names, previews & links to original YouTube videos:#3 -- "Cutting it Close" -- A stark reminder to never get into a car with a stranger (Original YouTube link -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNbRksDBLHw)#2 -- "The Boxxx" -- A woman receives a mysterious box from her neighbor... Would you look inside? (Original YouTube link -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsKSqWj3HpQ)#1 -- "What’s That Smell?" -- Dad discovers a horrifying secret in his family's apartment (Original YouTube link -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP5mWDCPQOw)For 100s more stories like these, check out our main YouTube channel just called "MrBallen" -- https://www.youtube.com/c/MrBallenIf you want to reach out to me, contact me on Instagram, Twitter or any other major social media platform, my username on all of them is @mrballenSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey Prime members, you can binge eight new episodes of the Mr. Ballin podcast one month early and all episodes ad free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. Today's podcast will feature three stories about terrifying discoveries people made that would change their lives forever. The audio from all three of these stories has been pulled from our main YouTube channel and has been remastered for today's episode. The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description.
Starting point is 00:00:26 The first story you'll hear is called Cutting It Close and it's a stark reminder to never get into a car with a stranger. The second story you'll hear is called The Box and it's about a woman who receives a mysterious box from her neighbor. And the third and final story you'll hear is called What's That Smell and it's about a dad who discovers a horrifying secret in his family's apartment. But before we get into today's stories, if you're a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious Delivered in Story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do
Starting point is 00:00:56 and we upload twice a week. Once on Monday and once on Thursday. So if that's of interest to you, please sneak into the Amazon Music Follow Butt's house and reverse all their doorknobs so they turn the wrong way. Okay, let's get into our first story called Cutting It Close. Hello history fans, I'm Eris James. I'm Tom Crane. And I'm Chris Skull. And we're the hosts of Oh What A Time, the history podcast which tries to answer the question, was the past as horrific as it seems? Each week we tackle a brand new subject from life in Nelson's Navy to death in ancient
Starting point is 00:01:50 Rome. From maniacal monarchs to Soviet spies to the history of milk. And we ask the questions other history shows are too chicken to. How would you feel about consummating your marriage in front of your in-laws in medieval Britain? No thanks. How would your puny little arms fare as part of the crew on a Viking longboat? And would you be up for a night out to see a sapient pig in Victorian London?
Starting point is 00:02:13 This is Oh What A Time, the podcast that the Times newspaper described as very funny, if less scholarly than its rivals, probably fair. This podcast is guaranteed to make your life better, by reminding you that things in the past were so much worse. That's all the time available every Monday and Tuesday on Wondry with two bonus episodes every month on Wondry Plus. Lamont Jones is shattered when his cousin dies just weeks after entering prison. The official reports as natural causes, but bruises and missing teeth tell a different story. Wondry presents Death County PA, a chilling true story of 1972, 22-year-old Sotria Krizzonis sat at her bus stop in Seattle,
Starting point is 00:03:06 Washington, adjusting her knit cap against the cold. The hat actually still felt pretty weird on her head because just a few days earlier, she had cut her brown hair super short, and so she wasn't quite used to it yet. But despite that, she loved her new hair. In fact, she couldn't wait to show it off at her school. She deliberately worn this big hat to hide her haircut, because this would make the reveal to her friends at school that much better. She glanced up Rainer Avenue for any sign of her bus, but there wasn't one. The city's
Starting point is 00:03:37 public transportation system was all out of whack that day because of the weather, and Sotria was becoming pretty impatient because now her bus was over an hour late. She'd already missed her first class of the day because of this bus, and now she was in danger of missing her second class. And that's when she heard the beep of a car horn and a pale yellow Volkswagen Beetle rolled up to the curb right in front of her. Sotria had to squint through the snow, but she could see the silhouette of a man in the driver's seat of this car,
Starting point is 00:04:05 and he was rolling down the window of the passenger side and kind of waving her over. Curious, she walked up to the now open window and leaned in, and the warmth coming from inside the car felt great. And this is where Sotria got her first real look at the driver. He was a good-looking guy in his 20s, he was well-dressed, pleasant-seeming, just an overall normal-looking person. He explained that he'd actually been driving on Rainier Av for a while, and he hadn't seen a bus in a long time, and so he offered to give Sotria a ride to her school. But remember, this is the 1970s, and hitchhiking at the time in America was pretty common, especially on the west coast where Sotria was. And so pretty quickly, she agreed to get in because she knew this likely was her best chance at making it to school for her second class, and she was freezing.
Starting point is 00:04:54 After the man pulled back onto Rainer Avenue, Sotria sat back in the seat, enjoying the warm air blasting out of the vents. And as she did, she looked out her window at the familiar route passing by. Sotria was about to apologize to this guy for making him drive so far out of his way, when she heard him turn on his blinker. He was preparing to turn right. And this struck Sotria as odd, because as she had explained to him back on the curb, her school was a straight shot down Rainer F. There was no need to turn.
Starting point is 00:05:24 So what was he doing? Sotria looked over at the man, expecting him to explain why they were taking this sudden detour, but the man just stared straight ahead. And then a moment later, she heard the blinker turned on again, and she looked up and saw they were about to merge onto Interstate 5 southbound, which was definitely not the way to Sotria's school. And now Sotria felt a pang of fear. She opened her mouth to tell this guy he was going the wrong way, but he cut her off, and he looked at her and he said, you know, it's a terrible idea to take a ride from a stranger. The man kept on talking as he merged onto the highway, but Sotria was not listening
Starting point is 00:06:04 at all. Instead, she was fixated on what he was doing with his right hand. His left hand was on the wheel, but with his right hand, he was fishing for something underneath his seat. And so Sotria's mind began to race. Without taking her eyes off of this man and what he was doing, she traced with her hand and felt for the door handle, but she couldn't feel it. And then she turned and realized there was no door handle.
Starting point is 00:06:28 It had been removed. Just then, the man stopped rummaging around underneath his seat. Whatever he was looking for, he had found it. The man sat part way up and looked at Sotria with his hand still hidden behind one of his legs and a determined but emotionless expression on his face. At this point, Sotria felt her heart hammering so hard in her chest that she was worried she might pass out from terror.
Starting point is 00:06:52 All she could think about was what is he hiding behind his leg, what was underneath his seat? But then something strange happened. The man's face changed from determined and almost cruel to confused. Sotria watched as his eyes darted up to the top of her head. The man told Sotria to take off her hat, and with trembling hands, she did as she was instructed, although she had no idea why he was asking.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And when the hat was off her head, the man looked shocked, and he dropped whatever it was he had found back under his seat, and Sotria heard it land with a heavy metallic thud, but she couldn't see it. There was a long, tense silence, and then when the man finally spoke, he just said, Why did you cut your hair? The man immediately got off the highway and drove fast to Sotria's school. When they got there, he opened up the door for her and told Sotria to get out and said she was lucky. Then he drove away. Sotria didn't report this encounter to police. She was kind of embarrassed that she had gotten into a stranger's car in the first place, and after all, the guy, despite being really
Starting point is 00:08:01 creepy, hadn't hurt her at all. And so she basically just tried to forget about it. But a few years later, in 1975, Sotria was watching TV when she saw a familiar face come onto the screen. It was the man who had given her a ride, being led into a courtroom in handcuffs. Sotria dropped everything and turned up the volume, and what she heard made her numb with horror. Because the newscaster was saying that this man who had given her a ride was a suspected serial killer accused of murdering dozens of young women who he would lure into his pale yellow Volkswagen Beetle and then bludgeon them to death with a crowbar or tire iron. And he had a very specific type when it came to identifying his victims. They were young women who all had long brown hair. And this man's name was Ted Bundy. Hey, it's Mr. Ballin here. If you haven't discovered redacted, declassified mysteries yet, well, you're in for a fascinating
Starting point is 00:09:07 journey through history's hidden files. As a fellow military veteran, I can tell you that the host of the show, Luke Lamanna, brings a very unique insider perspective to these wild stories. From covert operations to historical deceptions, Luke examines verified stories that sound almost too incredible to be true. Like Ana Montes, the Defense Intelligence intelligence analyst who maintained a perfect cover while secretly working for Cuba for nearly 20 years, or the Tic-Tac Incident, where a decorated Navy pilot encountered something in the skies that the Pentagon couldn't explain.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Luke and his team dive deep into declassified documents to bring you thoroughly researched, eye-opening stories from the darkest corners of history. Hey, listeners! Big news for true crime lovers. You can now enjoy this podcast ad-free on Amazon Music with your Prime membership. Listen to all episodes of my podcasts, Mr. Bolland's Medical Mysteries and Mr. Bolland's Strange Dark and Mysterious Stories, along with a huge collection of top True Crime podcasts, completely ad-free. No more wading through cliffhangers or dealing with ads, because let's be honest, ads shouldn't be the most nerve-wracking part of true crime. To start your ad-free listening journey, download the Amazon Music app for free or head to amazon.com
Starting point is 00:10:27 slash ballin. That's amazon.com slash b-a-l-l-e-n. Dive into uninterrupted true crime stories today. Our next story is called the box. Late one afternoon in April of 2019 a middle-aged woman named Mary was cutting up some vegetables in her kitchen in northern Spain when she heard a knock on her front door. So she put her things down, she went to the door, opened it up, and standing there was her next door neighbor who was all smiles and she was holding this big box that was wrapped in wrapping paper and had a big bow on it and then sitting on top of this big gift was a tray of deep-fried rolls or croquettes. Mary's neighbor was a 61-year-old
Starting point is 00:11:26 woman named Carmen Marino who was an exceptional chef and her specialty were making these croquettes. They were filled with different types of meat and other things and all the time Carmen would come over and give them to Mary and Mary loved these croquettes and so as soon as she saw those she was like wow amazing and she invited Carmen inside but Carmen didn't come inside instead she took the croquettes and handed them to Mary and Mary's like okay great thank you but Carmen was still standing right outside holding this box and now Mary's looking at her thinking that Carmen looks kind of uneasy and so Mary said you know what's going on here what What's up with this box? Carmen was silent for a second and just kind of held this box out, at which point Mary
Starting point is 00:12:09 realized, okay, so she's trying to give me this gift. And so Mary reached out and took this huge present and she was like, thank you, Carmen. Like, what is this? What's going on? And Mary, when she looked at Carmen, she could tell Carmen's face was now bright red. She was very embarrassed about something, maybe whatever she was going to say. And so Mary just waited for Carmen to speak. And so eventually Carmen would, she would clear her voice
Starting point is 00:12:31 and then she would say, you know, Mary, this is really embarrassing, but I need you to hold onto this box for a little bit. It contains my sex toys and I'm having company over at my house and I'm just worried that somehow they're gonna find these things. Mary was so caught off guard by what Carmen was telling her that she just started laughing. But Carmen didn't join in on the laughter. She
Starting point is 00:12:53 just kind of looked down like she was totally mortified. Mary stopped laughing because she felt bad and then Carmen kind of elaborated on why she had this huge box full of sex toys. She would tell Mary that, you know, she bought them with the intent of using them with her boyfriend, but a couple of months ago, he had broken up with her, but Carmen had held onto these in the hopes that the boyfriend would eventually take her back and they would get back together again
Starting point is 00:13:18 and get to use these toys. And so even though this was a totally weird and kind of uncomfortable request, Mary kind of felt bad for Carmen. One because she had to make this request of Mary, but also to you know, it was obvious that Carmen was pretty shaken up about you know, losing her boyfriend. And so Mary said, you know what, no problem, Carmen, I will look after your sex toys and I will enjoy your croquettes.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And Carmen was so relieved and said, thank you so much. And then she turned and hustled back to her house and then Mary shut the door and she brought the croquettes into the kitchen and she tried one and it was so good and then she took the big box of sex toys and she went into the hallway she opened up a closet and she put it on the top shelf and then shut the door. Over the next couple of days, Mary expected Carmen to come back over and reclaim her box of sex toys. But Carmen didn't. And when days turned into weeks and then turned into months and still Carmen had not come
Starting point is 00:14:19 over to get the sex toys, Mary was kind of annoyed, but she was just too embarrassed to go over to Carmen and be like, hey, why don't you come over and get your sex toys, Mary was kind of annoyed, but she was just too embarrassed to go over to Carmen and be like, hey, why don't you come over and get your sex toys? And so Mary just decided she would leave it alone and not talk about it. And if ever Carmen wanted them back, she could have them. But if she never asked for them again, Mary didn't care. She would just eventually throw the box away and that would be it. A few months later on September 29th, 2019, so we're talking about six months or so from
Starting point is 00:14:47 when these sex toys were first brought over to Mary's house. Well on this day, Mary was kind of doing chores in her house when she began to smell a really bad smell coming from the hallway closet where the box of sex toys were. And so Mary opened up the closet and for sure she could tell the bad smell was coming from this closet And so she started by smelling the shoes that were towards the bottom of the closet to see if maybe she had stepped in something gross But they were all clean and then eventually she reached the sex toy box She pulled it down from the top shelf and it had never been opened You know, it's still wrapped but she just smelled the box and she immediately recoiled because that had to be where the terrible smell was coming from.
Starting point is 00:15:26 It was coming from this box. And so Mary was totally repulsed at the idea that these sex toys smell horrible, but she carried the box into the kitchen and set it down and she thought, you know, is this a horrible betrayal of my friend's trust if I open up this box and look at her sex toys? But Mary ultimately was like, you know what? Carmen has not come back for this thing. I'm opening this up because I need to know what's making this smell. So Mary went over and got a pair of scissors and she cut off the wrapping paper and then she opened up the box and inside was like this big thing that had been wrapped in tin foil. So all you saw was
Starting point is 00:15:59 tin foil. And so Mary, she reached down and kind of began to peel back the tin foil. It was kind of sticking to whatever was under it But eventually after she kind of yanked on it She pulled the tin foil off and when she saw what was in there She began screaming and ran outside and called the police It would turn out Mary's neighbor Carmen who owned the box of sex toys It would turn out Mary's neighbor, Carmen, who owned the box of sex toys, well, her boyfriend didn't just break up with her a couple of months before she brought the sex toys over. No, her boyfriend, who was a 67-year-old man named Jesus Baranda, he went missing around
Starting point is 00:16:36 the time that supposedly Carmen and her boyfriend broke up. And so naturally, Jesus' family began looking for Jesus, and when they couldn't find him, they called the police. And eventually the police called Carmen and said, hey, you were dating Jesus around the time he went missing. We're going to need to come to your house and search it. And when Carmen heard that, she knew she had a big problem because Carmen had murdered Jesus and cut his head off with a chainsaw and she still had his head in her house and so what did she do well she boiled his head down and then she
Starting point is 00:17:08 put it in a box wrapped it in tin foil and then she wrapped that box in wrapping paper put a bow on it and then went next door to Mary's house and said hey can you hold my sex toys for me because she knew Mary would likely not look in the box if it was sex toys and so Mary took the box put it in her closet and then of course you know the smell began several months later and she would discover Jesus's head. Carmen was convicted of murdering her boyfriend and she was sentenced to 15 years in prison. Police were never able to locate the rest of Jesus. All they had was his head but there's a running theory that Carmen may have used the rest of her boyfriend's body and
Starting point is 00:17:49 Grounded up and then baked him into her croquettes that she gave out to people like Mary and other people in her neighborhood But that's just a theory The next and final story of today's episode is called What's That Smell? On the evening of June 7th, 2023, a 36-year-old man named Umar Abdullah walked into his bedroom in Tampa Bay, Florida, and right away he opened up all the windows. Now keep in mind, Tampa Bay, Florida is really hot, and so by doing this he was letting in all this really hot air, but Umar did not care. He just wanted whatever was inside of his apartment out. Umar, along with his wife Samira and their 10 month old daughter had just gotten back to their apartment after a trip to Ohio and the second they walked inside they had smelled
Starting point is 00:18:59 this weird smell and it was something they had never smelled before. This was not like rotten food or anything like that. This was like a chemical smell. But even that wasn't a good description. It was like a cross between chemicals and maybe paint. And so at first Umar and Samira just walked around their apartment, predominantly in the kitchen, you know, looking for things that could be leaking, you know, in the fridge or in cupboards or whatever. But they couldn't find anything that seemed like it could be the cause of the smell. And it was around this point when they were totally stumped that Umar and Samira remembered that their apartment building was extremely well taken care of.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Like repairs were done immediately and all the time in every single unit, and the fact that they had been away in Ohio had been known to their apartment manager. And so they thought, you know, maybe maybe while they were gone maybe somebody had come in here and maybe touched up some paint or made some repairs or something even though it seemed a bit weird that they hadn't been informed beforehand that you know painting or repairs were going to take place in their apartment but ultimately that's what they chalked it up to. And so it was at this point that Umar and Samira walked all around the apartment opening up all the windows and Samira also lit a candle as well and pretty soon that weird smell
Starting point is 00:20:08 disappeared and both the parents just kind of forgot about it. And so Umar grabbed all their luggage from their trip and began unpacking it into the drawers and putting toiletries away and at the same time Samira put their baby in a high chair in the kitchen and then Samira began preparing dinner. And a few minutes later as Umar was still putting things away, he heard Samira calling from the kitchen to, hey, come out here for a second. And so Umar stopped what he was doing, he went into the kitchen and he looked at Samira and she was looking very concerned down at their daughter.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And their daughter was in her high chair and her dinner was right in front of her, but she wasn't eating. And their daughter seemed really fussy. And normally their daughter was such a get-along kid who never fussed who always ate her food and so this seemed really out of character and so both parents kind of stared at the daughter for a second and then Umar was like you know what all the windows are still open and it's getting pretty hot in here maybe the baby's just fussy about the heat and so Samira agreed that could totally be it and so the parents
Starting point is 00:21:03 went around the apartment closing down all the windows, allowing the air conditioning to kick back on and cool the apartment down. But about an hour later after the apartment had cooled back down, the baby was still very fussy. And at this point Umar and Samira were trying to put the baby to bed and they were really struggling with that. And also in addition to the baby, obviously not feeling very well, Umar and Samira both began to complain that they had headaches.
Starting point is 00:21:29 And so at this point, the parents assumed that, you know what, all of this, you know, the baby's behavior and now our headaches must be tied to just the travel we just went through and we just need a day to recover here. And so they kind of rushed their baby through her bedtime routine and eventually got her down. And then Umar and Samira took some ibuprofen to help with their headaches, and then day two climbed in bed and drifted off to sleep, hoping that when they woke up, everybody would feel better again.
Starting point is 00:21:55 But the next morning, nobody was better. In fact, everybody was doing worse. Umar's headache had now gotten much stronger, and Samira, she still had a headache, but also was very lethargic, and the baby was still very fussy. And over the next few days, their symptoms continued to get worse and worse. Umar's headache went from really bad to pretty much blinding, like he couldn't do anything else but think about his headache. And Samira basically had to lay down all day.
Starting point is 00:22:20 It was like no matter how much she slept, she had zero energy and their poor baby just continued to cry and fuss all the time and even began to vomit and so it seemed pretty obvious by this point after a few days that the three of them must have caught some sort of bug while they were traveling. That this was not just jet lag that they actually had some sort of illness. But the parents were convinced that you know they could just kind of rough it out and eventually after a couple of days, they would get better. But on the morning of June 14th, so this is now a week after coming back home from their trip, not only were all their symptoms still really bad, but on this particular morning, things took a dark turn.
Starting point is 00:22:58 That morning, when Umar went to his daughter's bedroom, you know, he's still dealing with this horrible headache. You know, he makes his way into the bedroom and he goes down to pick his daughter up from her crib. And as he's reaching down to grab her, he freezes because on the bed, on the pillow right behind the baby is all the baby's hair. The baby had clearly lost huge chunks of her hair. And so Umar at this point forgot about his headache and yelled for Samira. And even though she's super lethargic, she could tell this is an emergency. so she got up and made her way into the bedroom and she looked down too and saw all the hair and she reached down and scooped the baby up and she turned the baby over and sure enough there was a huge bald spot on
Starting point is 00:23:36 the back of their baby's head. But Umar and Samira they said to each other right away that wait a minute you know I know this is scary but it is actually a thing that newborn babies sometimes do lose their hair. But when they went online and looked at the age range of when that's kind of a common thing to happen, it was pretty obvious that their baby being 10 months old was a little bit too old for losing her hair to be considered a normal thing. And so Umar and Samira sat there and continued Googling, you know, what could this be? You know, my 10 month old baby is losing her hair.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And there were lots of explanations ranging from, you know, ringworm to some severe infection to some rare genetic disorder. And all of it was kind of terrifying. And also none of it really lined up with what they were seeing with their daughter. And so the parents were like, you know what? Clearly, we don't know what this is. We've all been sick for a week. We have to bring our baby to the doctor. And so the parents were like, you know what? Clearly, we don't know what this is. We've all been sick for a week. We have to bring our baby to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:24:27 And so as Samira got on the phone and called the baby's doctor, Umar hopped in the shower to get ready to go to the doctor. And as soon as he began shampooing his hair, he noticed clumps of his hair were falling out. And so all of a sudden it dawned on him that whatever's going on with his baby is going on with him and very likely going on with his wife too. And it was at this point too that Umar remembered that strange smell when they first walked into their apartment after coming back from their trip.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Now they had opened up all the windows and lit candles and you know the smell had kind of dissipated and then they had shut the windows again and they hadn't smelled it again. And so Umar began thinking wait a a minute, maybe we've just gone nose blind to the smell and maybe there's some sort of contamination in the air. Maybe there's a gas leak or something worse than that. And so as soon as Umar got out of the shower and told his wife about how he lost hair and kind of his theory that maybe there was some contamination in their apartment, Umar called his landlord and explained, you know, the whole situation.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And the landlord would tell Umar right off the top that, you know, during the time they were in Ohio, nobody went inside their apartment. So there's no fresh paint in there, you know, no maintenance was done. So whatever you smelled was not from us. And then the landlord said to Umar that, you know what, as scary as it sounds, it's possible that you might have like a gas leak inside your apartment or maybe you have a freon leak from your air conditioning system, or maybe there's toxic mold, but whatever it is, we're gonna get people in there, we're gonna find the issue, and solve it.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Hey guys, Mr. Ballin here. You know how I tell strange, dark, and mysterious stories? Well, I've stumbled on some strange, dark, and mysterious medical stories that really are just as wild. Like there was a story about this woman who accidentally swallowed something that got lodged in her heart. There was a story about a guy where a tree grew in his lung. Or there was a story about this person who their skin turned bright blue.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Or this town everybody started laughing uncontrollably that lasted for months. I mean, the list goes on and these are not urban legends. These are real mysteries that we dive into that have left doctors and scientists baffled sometimes for years. And so that's why I created Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries, a totally separate show all about these wild mysteries of the human body. Follow Mr. Ballinand's medical mysteries on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. Want to listen to episodes early and ad free? Well, join Wondery Plus or listen on Amazon Music with Prime. Last year, long crime brought you the trial that captivated the nation.
Starting point is 00:26:59 She's accused of hitting her boyfriend, Boston police officer, John O'Keefe with her car. Karen Reed is arrested and charged with second degree murder. The six-week trial resulted in anything but resolution. We continue to find ourselves at an impasse. I'm declaring a mistrial in this case. But now the case is back in the spotlight. And one question still lingers. Did Karen Reed kill John O'Keefe?
Starting point is 00:27:23 The evidence is overwhelming that Karen Reed is innocent. I'm Kristen Thorne investigative reporter with law and crime and host of the podcast Karen the retrial. This isn't just a retrial it's a second chance at the truth. I have nothing to hide my life is in in the balance and it shouldn't be. I just want people to go back to who the victim is in this. It's not her. Listen to episodes of Karen, The Retrial, exclusively
Starting point is 00:27:52 and ad free on Wondery Plus. And so later that day, sure enough, a gas inspector showed up to Umar and Samira's apartment and they checked the entire place and they could not find any trace of a gas leak. They checked everywhere. There was no leak, but they did tell Umar and Samira that, yes, we can smell a faint trace of some chemical smell, but we don't think it's gas. And then after the gas inspector left, the landlord went out and found a mold inspector
Starting point is 00:28:23 who came into Umar and Samira's apartment. They looked everywhere and could not find any mold. Then the landlord brought in a plumber to check the hot water heater, but no issues with that. Then the landlord brought an HVAC company in and they checked the air conditioning units and there was no leak. And so finally, after the landlord had kind of run out of ideas for who to bring over to check the apartment, because again, by this this point nobody had found anything wrong with the apartment.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Umar just said you know what I'm gonna call the fire department and so Umar he calls the fire department and the fire department they send over their hazardous materials team or their hazmat team and so they go into the apartment and they look everywhere and there is nothing they could not find any source that was causing the smell at all. It seemed very much like their apartment was totally safe and fine. But by this point, it's now been two weeks since Umar, Samira and their baby had come back from that trip and they still felt totally horrible. Umar still had his headaches, he was still losing his hair, Samira had begun losing her
Starting point is 00:29:22 hair as well, she still had her headaches, she still felt lethargic, and their baby was still losing her hair and she still was fussy and miserable, and all three of them now had developed this weird shortness of breath where they'd just be walking through the apartment and suddenly it was like they couldn't even breathe. And so now they've had all these people who can't find anything wrong with their apartment, they'd gone to their doctors and the doctors had no idea what was wrong with them, and so it was kind of like they had no idea what to do, but clearly this crisis was only getting worse and worse and worse. And so Umar felt like he had no more options.
Starting point is 00:29:54 He couldn't leave his apartment, he couldn't afford to do that, and so they were just stuck in this place that seemed toxic. But all that would change on June 25th, so two and a half weeks after they came home from that trip, because on this day, Umar discovered something about that chemical smell they caught right when they came back in after the trip. You know, the smell that all the people that had come into the apartment had sort of noticed but couldn't identify. On June 25th, Umar figured something out about that smell.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And so on this day, Umar was in his apartment feeling completely miserable, as was his wife and his daughter who were in the bedroom. But at some point, Umar suddenly caught a whiff of that weird chemical smell. And as soon as he smelled it, he sort of began to cough and he was about to call his landlord and be like, hey, I smelled it again. But he decided on this day, instead of calling anybody else, he was going to run an experiment of his own. And so instead of trying to get away from the smell, Umar began smelling in the air
Starting point is 00:30:51 as deep as he could to try to kind of figure out where the smell was coming from. And so he began walking around his apartment, sniffing the air, kind of tracing the smell, and slowly but surely he began kind of following the smell through his kitchen down the hallway all the way to his front door and when he got to his front door he smelled it again and he could tell the smell was the strongest right now and so feeling a sudden jolt of adrenaline he grabbed the door flung it open half expecting to see like a chemical cloud floating in the air in the hallway but as soon as he opened the door there was nothing outside and when he smelled in the hallway you know the smell as he opened the door, there was nothing outside. And when he smelled in the hallway, you know, the smell wasn't really there anymore.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And so we kind of looked around for a second feeling kind of silly. And then he shut the door and he was about to just go back into his apartment and just kind of accept that once again, I got no idea what's going on here. But then he stopped and he turned back around and looked at the actual door, like the actual front door of his apartment. And he began smelling the door and the door definitely had the chemical smell, and so he began smelling and tracing his hands all over this door, not even sure what he was looking for, but eventually he worked his way all the way to the bottom
Starting point is 00:31:57 of the door, and that's when he felt something. And so suddenly Umar got down and stared at the strange thing he had found on his door, and as soon as he saw what it was, he jumped up and ran to his wife to tell her what he had just found. After talking with his wife about this thing, they came up with a plan. Late that night, Umar waited until the entire apartment complex seemed really quiet, and then as quietly as he could he opened up that front door He stepped out into the hallway and then he made his way over to the big fake plant that stood at the end of this Hallway that was kind of right outside kind of adjacent to his door and hid something in the plant And then Umar went back into his apartment and he shut the door and
Starting point is 00:32:42 On June 27th So two days later the moment Umar and Samira had been waiting for finally arrived. At around 5.30pm that evening, suddenly that chemical smell began to emanate through the apartment and you know their baby began coughing so badly she began vomiting and so as Samira was tending to their baby, Umar very quietly opened up his front door, looked in the hallway, didn't see anyone and he rushed over to that plant and he took the thing he had hidden a couple of days before and he went back into his apartment, shut the door, and went into
Starting point is 00:33:13 his office. And when Umar came out of that office a little while later, Samira was waiting and she was looking at him, and as Umar came out it was like he was totally ashen-faced, he looked completely shocked, and he could barely speak. And Samira said, what's going on? What did you learn? And Umar said, we have to get out of here right now. Get the baby.
Starting point is 00:33:32 We have to leave right now. We're going to the hospital. And so as Samira bundled up their baby and they started getting their things together, Umar called 911 and told the operator what he had just discovered. The strange thing Umar had discovered on his front door two days earlier on June 25th was a weird crack at the very base of his door, where you could basically see from inside of his apartment out into the hallway. And the thing Umar and his wife had decided to hide
Starting point is 00:34:03 in the hallway in that plant was a video camera aimed at their front door Because they were suspicious that something was making its way through that crack in the door into their apartment and they wanted to catch it on camera and That's exactly what happened two days later when around 5 30 p.m You know their daughter began coughing and Umar began to smell that smell in the apartment and he rushed out He got his camera. he went back into his office he watched the footage and he could not believe what his camera had recorded. Just before 5.30pm on June 25th, so right before the smell came into the apartment,
Starting point is 00:34:38 on video you see this guy walk up the stairs and enter the hallway right in front of Umar and Samira's apartment door. And this man had a syringe in his hand and he knelt down and he placed the syringe into that crack at the bottom of Umar and Samira's door and he pushed the plunger of the syringe before pulling the syringe out, quickly turning and disappearing down the stairs. And so as Umar and Samira and their baby rushed to the hospital after discovering this video and after calling 911 to tell police what they saw on this video, the police rushed to Umar and Samira's apartment complex, not to go to Umar and Samira's apartment though, instead to go to the apartment right below Umar and Samira's apartment though, instead to go to the apartment right
Starting point is 00:35:25 below Umar and Samira. The man who rented that apartment right below them was a 36 year old named Zou Ming Li, he was a married father of two who was working on his PhD in chemistry from the University of South Florida, and Umar and Samira thought of him as being a really nice guy, you know he was very quiet, he kept to himself, he even gave them a gift after their daughter was born. But on this evening, when the police arrived at Zhu Ming's apartment and knocked on the door, when Zhu Ming opened it up, he was immediately arrested. It would turn out, despite Zhu Ming giving Umar and Samira that gift after their baby
Starting point is 00:36:00 was born, well, that was the end of him liking Umar and Samira. Because as soon as they came home with their baby, Zhu Ming became obsessed with how noisy their baby was. Even if their baby was barely being loud, it completely consumed Zhu Ming's mind. It was like he was obsessed with listening for this baby. And then suddenly it wasn't just the baby that annoyed him, it was even the slightest noise he heard above him coming from Umar and Samira's apartment that totally sent him into a rage.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And so Zhu Ming began constantly going to the homeowners association to complain about the baby and you know the toilet sounds and the footsteps he was hearing and when that wasn't enough he began going to the police about it. Now Umar and Samira had been told that their downstairs neighbor really was upset with how loud they were being and so they did everything they could to be quiet. They felt so bad that they were coming off as being these very loud and disrespectful people which they were not. I mean they did have a little baby and babies make noise but I mean they were doing everything
Starting point is 00:37:00 they could to be quiet and so they had no idea that Zhu Ming was still just completely furious at them and eventually Zhu Ming's fury just became completely unhinged and he used his chemistry know-how because remember he's studying for his PhD in chemistry to begin putting together this deadly mixture of chemicals that contain things like methadone and hydrocodone and he put them into a syringe and he began injecting them into Umar and Samira's apartment to poison them to make them be quiet and so by the time Zu Ming was arrested He had been injecting these deadly chemicals into their apartment for a month That was obviously the cause of all of Umar and Samira and their baby's symptoms. It was this poison. Umar, Samira and their baby would get treatment and they would fully recover from their poisoning,
Starting point is 00:37:52 but very likely had they not been quick thinkers and put that camera in place and caught zooming in the act, it's entirely possible that over time the poison that was being injected into their apartment would have killed them. Officials are still investigating this case as it's still relatively new, however, the legal process was paused when Zhu Ming was deported back to China. Zhu Ming has not been convicted of any crime and the criminal case remains open, and if Zhu Ming ever were to step foot on US soil, he would be arrested immediately. A quick note about our stories, they are all based on true events,
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