MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories - The Witching Hour
Episode Date: January 30, 2025Today’s podcast will feature 2 stories about people who have sinister intentions. The audio from both of these stories has been pulled from our main YouTube channel, which is just called "M...rBallen," and has been remastered for today's podcast.Story names, previews & links to original YouTube videos:#2 -- "Loana the Bloodthirster" -- A horrifying ritual that led to a supposed curse (Original YouTube link -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tgiVW9mSL8)#1 -- "The Witching Hour" -- In 2005, a small group of people sat in a circle and devised a plan to break their curse (Original YouTube link -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMW7JjJcByg)For 100s more stories like these, check out our main YouTube channel just called "MrBallen" -- https://www.youtube.com/c/MrBallenIf you want to reach out to me, contact me on Instagram, Twitter or any other major social media platform, my username on all of them is @mrballenSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Today's podcast will feature two stories about people who had sinister intentions.
The audio from both of these stories has been pulled from our main YouTube channel and has
been remastered for today's episode.
The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description.
The first story you'll hear is called LaWanna the Bloodthirster and it's about a horrifying
ritual that led to a supposed curse. And the second and final story you'll hear is called
The Witching Hour and it's about a group of people in Illinois who kill on demand.
But before we get into today's stories, if you're a fan of the strange, dark and mysterious
delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do
and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday. So if that's of interest to you,
when the Amazon music follow button has just finished raking up all of their fallen leaves
in their yard, break out your leaf blower and obliterate all of their piles.
and obliterate all of their piles. Okay, let's get into our first story called
Lawanna the Bloodthirster. In 1909, Luana Constantinescu was a 27-year-old woman living in the Romanian city of Timișoara.
Luana was a devout practitioner of Zoroastrianism,
which is one of the world's oldest organized religions that began in ancient Persia and is
now practiced primarily in East Asia. In the city that Luana was living in, it was majority
Christian, and they looked at Zoroastrians as witches. As such, Luana was persecuted and
ostracized primarily by these two Christian ministers
that spread a rumor that she was drinking the blood of local children and that she worshipped
Satan.
That rumor would spread and grow to the point where everybody knew Luana as like the singular
witch of all the Zoroastrians in the city, and it ultimately incited this angry Christian mob to storm
her house on October 21st, 1909 and rip her into the streets and savagely beat her to
within an inch of her life.
She would survive this lynching and she would be taken to a hospital where she would be
treated for severe blunt force injuries and lacerations, but after two days of being in
the hospital when she had not
made a full recovery at all, she checked herself out and headed home. The next day, Luana was found
dead in her apartment, and her family and friends initially believed that she had died as a result
of the injuries she had sustained from the angry mob, and that perhaps she had checked herself out
of the hospital too soon, and untreated, that's why she must have passed away early.
But when the authorities arrived at her house and began looking at the scene, it did not
look like she had died as a result of those injuries.
It looked more like some sort of ritual suicide.
She was laying on this sofa with her arms over her chest.
Next to the sofa was an altar that was adorned with strange occult symbols and ritual herbs and effigies,
and on the altar was this goblet with deep dark red stains on the inside.
When they looked at Loana, even though she was fully dressed,
underneath her sleeves were all these cuts on her arms and there were cuts on her legs as well.
After her autopsy, the medical examiner said she had died from a combination of blood loss
and internal shock from ingesting massive quantities of blood that triggered cardiac
arrest.
Lwana had been draining her own blood into the sacramental goblet, drinking it, and then
doing it over and over
again until she died.
Locals believed that that was not just a ritual suicide, but rather she was placing a curse
on her enemies.
Almost immediately following her death, those two Christian ministers that had spread those
rumors about her that led to the mob coming and attacking her, they both died of an extremely
rare bloodborne illness.
And then immediately following their demise, the two primary vigilantes that actually organized
that mob that would attack Loana, they both died.
One was hit by a falling tree and another died in a fire.
And according to more recent accounts, Loana's curse didn't end with the death of her tormentors.
There have been dozens of reports of people after seeing an image, which is of Luana
after she was discovered by authorities in her home, that they will have bouts of extreme
sleep paralysis.
These are people that have never had sleep paralysis before, that this picture somehow induces sleep paralysis in them, like they're cursed by Luana.
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The next and final story of today's episode is called The Witching Hour. Just before midnight on August 22nd, 2005, 38-year-old Rick Eck knocked on the front
door of an apartment in the tiny Midwestern farm town of Claremont, Illinois.
As Rick waited for the door to open, he could barely stand still because he was so excited
about what he was going to be doing that night.
Finally, the door swung open and Rick saw right in front of him this very skinny and gaunt looking woman with dark hair and dark eyes staring back at him. Her name was Irinya
Kottner and she was 34 years old and by day she worked at Walmart but at night she became the real version of herself.
She was a witch who actually led a group of witches known as a coven that Rick
was a part of. Without saying anything, Irinya motioned for Rick to follow her
into her apartment, and then Irinya turned and began walking away. And Rick,
before stepping over the threshold, he paused for a moment and just turned to
the guy he had brought with him, a tall muscular man named David Lindner.
And Rick, he just kind of nodded at David, and David nodded back, and then the two of
them walked inside.
As Rick and David followed Irinya into her apartment, Rick still could barely contain
his excitement.
He had only joined this coven recently, about a year and a half ago, and so witchcraft, which is something they were going to be doing that
night, was kind of new to him, but it was very exciting. Rick had been inspired to become
a witch and join this coven after watching the Harry Potter movies, and so he was hopeful
that tonight would go something like Harry Potter. And Rick knew David, the guy he had
brought along, was this very powerful warlock, which
is a male witch, and so he figured, you know, if David's here, this is bound to go to plan.
Rick just hoped he'd be able to keep up with David, or at least play some sort of meaningful
support role.
Irinya eventually led Rick and David down this dark hallway to this small living room
where in the middle of the floor was a ring of lit candles.
And as soon as Rick and David stepped into the room with Irinya, they were hit with this
powerful smell of incense that had been burning in the room, and also there was all this smoke
hovering in the air from the various things that Irinya had been burning in preparation
for tonight's event.
Rick, David, and Irinya walked quietly into the middle of this circle of candles, and
they sat down cross-legged in a circle facing each other, and then they got ready to begin.
Life in the town of Claremont was normally very quiet and peaceful.
I mean, this is a town that literally has more cornfields than people, and Claremont
was over a hundred miles away from the nearest city.
But beneath the calm exterior Claremont had a dark side.
Amongst the 200 or so residents of Claremont were several very dark witches.
Not this coven, not Irinya, Rick and David.
They were the good guys.
The dark witches they were kind of out and about in this town and doing bad things
like practicing evil magic and evil witchcraft.
And so this coven led by Irenia was actually in place to try to combat these evil witches
in their midst.
And tonight, Rick, David, and Irenia were going to attempt to perform their most ambitious
and important magic yet.
The coven was going to attempt to break a powerful hex, which is kind of like a curse,
and this hex was cast by a person who might very well be the worst of all the dark witches
in Claremont, a 16 year old girl named Lindsay Kassinger.
As Rick sat cross-legged in the middle of the circle,
he found himself staring at the two slightly bigger candles that sat in the dead center
of the circle that were basically right between Rick, David, and Irinya. And David, as he
stared at these two candles, he saw etched in each of the candle's bodies were words.
On one candle it said Lindsay, and on the other candle it was etched Baby.
Because it would turn out this very evil dark witch, Lindsay, was pregnant and so instead
of having to combat one dark soul, the coven would have to combat two because Lindsay and
her baby were kind of intertwined.
Now before this night, the coven had attempted several times to try to break this hex that
Lindsay had cast, and the coven believed initially this hex was actually cast directly at Irinya,
because Irinya was suffering from things like depression and anxiety and not finding
love, and so of course that had to be a product of this curse.
And as the coven had continued to try and fail at breaking this hex, the hex had only
become more powerful and begun to spread.
From Irena to other witches in this coven who actually were not present this particular
night.
Including a 20 year old woman who began complaining of depression and ever worsening headaches
which of course had to be because of this hex.
And so that was why on this night, the coven had decided to really beef up their attack
on this hex, and so that was why Rick had gone out and brought in David, the experienced
warlock from St. Louis, Missouri, who claimed he had broken a hex before and he could do
it again for them.
As Rick, Irinya and Dave all sat in the circle, they looked at each other and then they began chanting in unison to bring out the dead, to join them in the living room right now.
And as they began this chant, Rick found himself intensely staring at those two candles with Lindsay and Baby on them.
And as he stared at the flames dancing across the top of them, Rick started to feel like he was kind of drifting off into a trance-like state.
And he knew that based on his prior teachings from Irinya, the leader of this coven, that this must be what it feels like when the spirit world opens up, which means the dead really were coming into the room.
And then, as Rick is kind of dealing with this trance-like state, he heard Irene begin to talk.
But it wasn't her normal voice.
It was the slow and deep sounding voice, almost like something had inhabited her body and taken it over and was now speaking through her mouth and Ireenia in this kind of slow and strange
voice she would tell Rick and David that the curse is still growing and then she
would say something that totally caught Rick by surprise. She said again in that
slow strange voice that the hex now was also on Rick and his entire family and
if they didn't break this hex immediately, Rick and his family would all perish.
And when Rick heard this, he's still in this trance-like state, but his heart began racing
because he didn't know this hex could potentially affect his loved ones and so this was a really
big deal, they needed to end this hex tonight.
Rick listened intently as Irinya began to say in this strange voice what their plan
was for that night to break this hex.
Basically Rick and David were going to perform a sacred ritual and Irinya she began to say
to the spirits in the room that Rick and David they were ready but they needed help.
And so after she said this she went quiet and so too did Rick and David and they're
all just sitting there kind of waiting for something to happen.
And then after about a minute of just total silence, Irene began to speak again still
in this strange slow bizarre voice.
But Rick and David knew now it was a different voice coming out of her.
Now, Irene was speaking on behalf of the spirit world that was in the room with them.
And Irene, she would say in this voice, I grant you five demons to help you on your
quest to break this hex.
And then after saying this, Irene, she opened her eyes and she looked kind of confused for
a moment and then she kind of got her bearings and she looked at David and Rick and she told
them now in her normal voice that they had to perform this sacred ritual before the two
candles in the middle with Lindsay and baby etched on them burned out.
And so basically Rick and David, they needed to get this done tonight.
Then Ireenia handed David a sacred tool that would be used that night in this sacred ritual
that David and Rick were going to complete.
And then Rick and David, they would stand up to leave and before they left, Irinya
would give them the typical witch send off, which was blessed be.
And then Rick and David, they nodded their heads, they turned and walked out of the apartment.
And as soon as they were out into the night, Rick could have sworn he saw dark shadows
moving around all over the place.
And he knew right then and there that he and David would be safe that night because clearly
the shadows moving around had to be those five demons that Irenia had called forth from
the spirit world to protect them this night. And so feeling very safe and empowered Rick and David went straight
into Rick's car. Rick turned it on and pulled away from the curb and began
heading towards their destination.
A few miles away at the house where the 16-year-old evil witch, Lindsay Kassinger lived, a 20-year-old
army private named Joshua Bennett was sitting at the kitchen table in Lindsay's house,
eating chicken wings and just kind of enjoying his night.
Josh didn't know Lindsay very well, but he wasn't at her house to see Lindsay.
He was at her house to see his own mother.
And Josh and his mother had a lot of catching up to do.
She had abandoned him and his father when he was young, and so Josh's dad had raised
him and then when Josh was old enough he had joined the military and now he was about to
deploy to the Middle East to go to war, but unexpectedly Josh's father had died and so
Josh had come back to Illinois for the funeral and it was at the funeral
where he saw his mother. She was in attendance as well. And you know,
even though he was upset with his mother for abandoning him, he felt like,
you know what, I want to reconnect with her.
And so he'd gone over and he'd given her a hug and his mother had been so
touched that she had asked Josh to come by her house in Claremont, Illinois,
where she lived with her boyfriend,
because she really wanted some alone time to actually hear about Josh's life and kind of, you know, get back
together again. And so, of course, Josh had said yes, and so here he was at this house in Claremont.
Now, Josh had arrived at this house a little bit earlier, and he was surprised to discover that it
was not just his mother and her boyfriend living there but also his mother's boyfriend's son, whose name was Jackie, was also living there
along with his pregnant girlfriend, the evil witch, Lindsay Kassinger.
But Josh didn't really mind that there was extra people, it was just maybe a little bit
confusing that this was kind of a big roommate situation.
But it seemed like Jackie and his girlfriend, Lindsay, were very nice people
and they quickly went downstairs to the apartment
in the basement and kind of just stayed out of the way
so Josh and his mother could catch up.
And so after Josh finished eating his wings,
his mother came into the kitchen
and the two of them chatted for hours.
And then finally at about midnight that night,
Josh decided to go to bed.
So he said good night to his mom.
He retreated to the bedroom and he laid in bed.
But he couldn't really sleep right away
because he had a lot going on in his life.
I mean, he had just lost his dad a couple of weeks ago.
And then at the same time,
he had reconnected with his estranged mother
and he's about to deploy to Iraq, to a war zone.
And, you know, he felt ready for that.
But at the same time, he was kind of apprehensive.
You know, it's about to happen.
You know, I hope I'll be able to
do my job and so with all these kind of intense thoughts swirling around his
head he just kind of laid there and didn't really expect to sleep anytime
soon. But eventually Josh did fall asleep however it felt like he had only been
asleep for a couple of minutes when he was abruptly woken up by the sound of barking coming out from the kitchen.
Jackie's dog was going crazy.
And so Josh grabbed his phone and he checked the time and saw it was 3 in the morning and
so instead of going out there and dealing with this dog he just thought you know what
it's going to stop eventually and so Josh grabbed his pillow and he put it over his
head and tried to muffle the sounds so he could fall back asleep.
But it didn't work.
The dog just kept on barking.
And then when Josh took the pillow off his head and kind of sat up wondering what he should do about this dog situation,
he heard the sound of a man's voice, a stranger's voice, saying, I bring you forth from the dark. And then after Josh heard this, he heard the sound of a woman screaming, and it sounded like his mom.
And so acting on instinct, Josh leapt from his bed, he ran out of the room, and he goes into the kitchen,
and he sees the dog is jumping and barking and going mad, and his mom is screaming, and there's this guy grabbing her,
kind of grappling with her, who's wearing black gloves and a ski mask, and there's another guy next to him with the same getup.
It's absolute chaos.
But before Josh could run over and save his mother, suddenly his chest felt like it was
on fire, and then he went blind, and his eyes had this burning pain in them, and then he
couldn't breathe, and he was stumbling backwards barely able to stand.
Minutes later, Rick, who was one of the witches from the Cub-In, bolted out of the front door
of Lindsay's house where all this chaos was happening and he just took off running across
the street directly into a cornfield and as he ran he felt this throbbing pain in his
leg and he could feel blood pooling in his shoe.
Rick ran until he couldn't run any farther,
and then he collapsed onto the ground,
and then he began thinking about
what an absolute disaster it had been
inside of the evil witch's house.
Not only had they failed to break the hex cast by Lindsay,
but also Rick was concerned that David,
his partner, who was
still at the house, was dead.
And Rick, he began looking around wildly, hoping all those demons that were sent to
help them from the spirit world, he was hoping they'd be nearby and they'd know what to do.
But Rick looked around and there was no one.
So Rick thought for a second, oh my gosh, Lindsay's hex must be stronger than any of us
realize, you know, we have to do something now. We have to end this before me and my family get
killed too. And so Rick pulled out his phone and he called Irene, the leader of the coven,
to get her advice about what they should do next. But Irene didn't respond to what Rick was saying
the way he expected her to. Instead, she seemed very cold and almost enraged at what he was saying.
And then, before Rick could kind of figure out what was going on with Irene, he heard
off in the distance the sound of sirensives would speak to everyone inside of Irene's
cabin as well as everyone who knew both Irene and Lindsay.
And slowly but surely, the police would put together what actually happened inside of
Lindsay the Evil Witch's house in the early morning hours of August 23rd 2005.
At about 3am on August 23rd 2005, Rick and David pulled up onto Lindsay's street and
they parked their car a little ways away from Lindsay's house and then after parking Rick and David donned
their ski masks and their gloves and then after looking at each other and
nodding they hopped out and began walking towards Lindsay's house. Their
plan was to sneak in through one of Lindsay's windows and confront Lindsay
the evil witch directly and break the hex
by performing a sacred ritual and then after this ritual was over they had a second ritual
they would need to perform that would send Lindsay's evil soul through the gates of hell
and to do that they needed the help of the five demons that had been sent along by Irinya
from the spirit world.
Now Rick and David felt like this was a great plan, however as soon as they got to Lindsay's
house and David actually began trying to climb into one of the windows, everything fell apart.
First the dog began to bark inside of Lindsay's house and that alerted Josh's mother who came
into the kitchen and sees the dog and sees David falling through the window and Rick
who didn't really know what was happening inside the house, he just climbed
through the window after David and when he stood up in the kitchen, he realized it was
too late.
They were totally caught.
And so Rick not really knowing what to do, he's seeing all this yelling and chaos happening.
He looks over at David and he sees David grab something from his belt and he pulls it out.
And it was the tool that
Irinya had given them when they left her apartment to go carry out the sacred ritual. This tool was part of that sacred ritual and
it was a long sharp knife and what they were going to do is stab the evil witch Lindsay
Cassinger to death with it. That was how they were going to break the hex. And then after they killed Lindsay, they were going to perform this weird ritual with her clothing that would send her soul through the gates of hell.
Now Rick did understand that this was the plan.
They were going to murder Lindsay, but perhaps he didn't really know how serious David was
about carrying it out.
Or the fact that David was not really a warlock as much
as he was a violent criminal who had bragged to Irenia about previously murdering someone
who had cast a separate hex and so by killing this person, that was how David had broken
the hex previously.
Also Rick may not have known that David had been instructed by Irenia to not let anything
stand in their way to break this hex, to carry out
this sacred ritual on Lindsay. And so Rick just watched as David raised the knife and began
stabbing Josh's mother over and over again in the chest while screaming, I bring you forth from the
dark. And it was at this point that Josh, the army private who heard all this happening, came
charging out in his underwear into the kitchen and Rick watched as David went from stabbing
Josh's mother to turning and immediately stabbing Josh directly in the chest.
And Rick at this point, he just jumped right in on it and pulled out his pepper spray and
sprayed Josh in the eyes.
And so that was why Josh felt the burning sensation and then went blind and couldn't
breathe and fell to the ground.
And so now it is absolutely chaos inside of this kitchen and the actual target of David
and Rick's, Lindsay, the evil witch, she managed to run out of the house and run to a nearby
neighbor's house to get help.
Meanwhile, the evil witch's boyfriend, Jackie, he comes upstairs carrying a shotgun.
And at this point, Josh is on the ground, clearly dying from the stab wound to his chest,
his mother as well is struggling on the ground, and David is going totally nuts saying all
these strange things and whipping his knife around, and Rick is just totally panicking
and doesn't know what to do.
And so when Jackie ran at Rick with this shotgun, Rick pulled out his own knife and attempted
to stab Jackie but somehow missed Jackie and stabbed himself in the leg.
And so that was why his leg was throbbing and bleeding because he had stabbed himself.
And then after Rick had stabbed himself, Jackie just walked over and Spartan kicked
Rick down the stairs into the basement. And then Jackie turned his attention from Rick
to David who was still just going nuts with this knife and being a total maniac. And Jackie
just walked over to David and David he sees the shotgun coming over to him and he tries
to move the barrel out of the way but then somehow only manages to point the gun directly at his own stomach, at which point Jackie just
fired a slug directly into David's gut.
And it was at this moment as David is crumpling to the ground with his horrible stomach wound
that the neighbor that Lindsay the evil witch had gone to go get had come to the house,
they went inside and they found a scene of absolute carnage.
And before the neighbor could even do anything Rick who had stabbed himself in
the leg and been kicked down into the basement had scrambled up the steps and
just run right past all the bodies on the ground past the neighbor who didn't
even do anything outside and Rick just kept on running out into that cornfield.
And so at this point, the neighbor didn't even try to figure out what happened.
He just called 911.
But it was already too late for Josh, the army private, who was only at this house to
reconnect with his estranged mother before he deployed
to Iraq and here he was dead on the ground from this totally bizarre attack.
It would turn out Rick, David and really the entire coven of witches that fell under Irinya
had been totally duped. They all fully
believed that Lindsay was in fact an evil witch who had cast this hex on Irinya which was spreading
to all the other members of the coven. But in reality, Irinya, the leader of this coven,
she didn't believe there was a hex that had nothing to do with any of this. The whole coven thing was totally made up.
She was just jealous that Lindsay was dating Jackie. Irinya had previously dated Jackie and
they had broken up and Irinya still wanted to get back together but Jackie didn't and so now that
Jackie was with Lindsay, Irinya just couldn't handle it. And so, naturally, Irinya had constructed this whole thing about Lindsay being one of
the dark witches in Claremont, Illinois and she's cast this hex and now you, my witches
in this coven, you need to go and kill her.
But of course, Lindsay did not end up getting killed and instead, it was the totally innocent
person, Josh, the army private, who had nothing to do with any of this, who got killed.
In addition to Josh dying, David, the warlock from St. Louis, he died from the shotgun blast to his stomach,
and then Josh's mother, who had been stabbed repeatedly by David, she would actually survive her attack.
Irinya would ultimately be found guilty of first degree murder and she would be sentenced
to 57 years in prison.
Rick pleaded guilty to murder as well and he was sentenced to 20 years and a third member
of the coven who was not present for the attack but who after the fact helped cover it up,
they were sentenced to 32 years in prison.
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