MTracey podcast - On the latest Congressional sex shenanigans

Episode Date: August 6, 2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.mtracey.netI’m in Santa Fe, New Mexico at the moment, but was wrangled just now to discuss recent happenings re: Congressmen Max Mil...ler and Chuck Edwards, both of whom are being denounced for various alleged improprieties. I also give a little update on my adventure today at the New Mexico State Capitol, where legislators made a presentation on their investigative…

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's your breaking news on the Max Miller thing? I mean, I don't really, I don't have breaking news so much as I. That's how I got them in here. I've, I don't have, I'm not a liberty to disclose at the moment. Can you give us a hint? Does it have to do with the truthfulness of the allegations? No, not so much that. I mean, I feel like I'm the only one, I'm the only schmuck,
Starting point is 00:00:30 usual who bothered to actually look through the material that Miller put out onto Dropbox on Sunday, which apparently antagonized his ex-father-in-law, Senator Bernie Moreno, to come out and for the first time, you know, denounce Miller and say he's not fit to hold office. Okay. But there's just a lot more going on than meets the eye based on what I've heard from people in a position to know various things. So this guy is not,
Starting point is 00:01:02 I mean, we're not convicting him of a crime or there's no lawsuit so far, right? This is a question of whether we just believe the woman. This guy has a bad record though, right? He's got, he's been accused of abuse by two other women, right? That woman who used to work in the White House. Oh, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:01:18 There have been, there are legal proceedings underway. So it's not just that... Related to family stuff, not criminal stuff. Well, no, I mean, there have been, there had, there were, there were complaints made by Emily Moreno, the former wife, where law enforcement authorities did investigate, such as a municipal police department in Ohio, where they live, and also the state's child protective services agency. So if, if there's a crime that is, that is ascertained over the course of that agency, investigation. an allegation that Miller did something, yes, that would have criminal implications. Yeah. So it's not just, it's not right to say that, oh, there's nothing legal for criminal.
Starting point is 00:02:11 He's not facing charges. So, I mean, we can agree. But why isn't he facing charges? Well, because probably because it doesn't rise to the level of probable cause and reasonable doubt and all that. Also, also, I mean, did you read any of the primary source material? No, no, tell it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I know it's a quaint concept to actually read the primary source materials that are put out. But do you take into account the previous accusations against him? Well, hold on. I mean, just let me, I mean, I'll get to that. But, and look, I don't like, I never, I never liked Miller politically at all. So that's not the issue. And furthermore, I think a voter in his Ohio congressional district would be, entitled to make a personal judgment that given the chaos in his personal life,
Starting point is 00:03:03 whatever the veracity of any particular allegation, it's still a huge time suck, right? So it's time, he's spending time on this that he could otherwise spend on policy or constituent services or whatever. So, okay, that bracketing that. There's a deposition of the mediator who was appointed by the family court in Kaya, Hoka County, Ohio, to be the go-between between Emily Moreno and Max Miller as they deal with the custody issues
Starting point is 00:03:35 around their two-and-a-half-year-old daughter. And in that deposition, this deposition was from May of this year. And this woman, it happens to be a woman who's like a forensic psychologist, is asked about the allegations that had been recently leaked to the press seemingly from Emily Moreno's lawyers, because she didn't
Starting point is 00:04:00 deny being involved in these leagues. This court-appointed forensic psychologist woman mediator says that she doesn't find the allegations to be credible. And also that allegations. All allegations?
Starting point is 00:04:17 Allegations around domestic abuse against Emily Moreno and also child abuse allegations against the daughter. When she said they've been, quote, greatly, whatever incidents gave rise to these allegations have been, quote, greatly exaggerated. And also that, you know, she reaffirms that the investigations that have been launched as a result of claims that were made by Emily Moreno, by the child protective services agency and also police have all found Miller, have all basically been ruled in favor of Miller. And also, Miller is the only one who's ever been granted a restraining order against Emily.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Really? Okay. You're teaching me things. That's why we... So, I mean, like, isn't this stuff worth knowing if people are just going to spout off about it? You've taught me something. Okay. What was she doing to cause the restraining order?
Starting point is 00:05:14 I don't know that it was especially because that he was, that she was, he was claiming that she was a threat to him. It's just that her behavior was erratic or her behavior maybe was, um, seen as out to get him in some way. Did they really start fighting? Because this is kind of implied in one of your tweets, that because some political thing between Miller and Moreno? Well, I mean, you got to have the context of this marriage is already real bizarre. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:40 It's almost like an old country, traditional marriage between like, right, like family political clans, like her fiefdoms or something in the old country. Yeah. So Morano gets into office because he gets Trump's and Drono. Trump's endorsement comes from Miller being his son-in-law. How did Miller know Trump? Miller worked in front. So Miller gets the endorsement first.
Starting point is 00:06:00 2022. Miller's running for Ohio House. And he started out. He was working for Trump on 20. Yeah, he worked on the Trump campaign 2016 as like an aide. He worked in the White House. And then he ends up getting Trump's endorsement to run for this Ohio house seat. He and Emily Moreno have their wedding at Trump, Trump Bedminster Golf Club.
Starting point is 00:06:23 at Mr. New Jersey in August of 2022. Trump himself presides over the wedding. And then, you know, through that connection, essentially, Bernie Moreno, who's like, you know, a wealthy businessman in Ohio, has like, you know, an empire of like car dealerships. Yeah. He ends up then getting into a position where he's better able to get Trump's endorsement
Starting point is 00:06:50 for, you know, in Ohio, Republican primary, In order to Gary In the gallery of victory, all you have to do is get Trump's endorsement, right? So whatever you can do to get it is like the real campaign. It's like what Janie Vance did. Okay. And so apparently,
Starting point is 00:07:05 like it's not 100% clear to me, but it seems like Miller really knew the father almost better than the daughter at one point. How was that? Well, what gave you that? Because he had a personal relationship with the, well, maybe not like literally,
Starting point is 00:07:20 but like, you know, he was like, marrying into this particular family. How did they meet the daughter? Well, how did they get together? How exactly did they meet? I don't know. I don't know. But it was almost like a shotgun wedding.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Like they hadn't known each, Emily and Max hadn't known each other very long before, you know, they're engaged all of a sudden. Right. What did they say? Shotgunned away. You said they got pregnant a few months after, right?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Which has happened, which happens. I mean, when it was the baby? Not shotgun. Maybe not for the right term. It just was like a very quickly sort of organized love. Well,
Starting point is 00:07:52 Was the baby born less than nine months after? No, no, the baby was born. The baby was born after, the baby was born in November of 2023, or October 2020, I think. So it would have been like, you know, I guess the conception would have been like, you know, half months after they were married. So shotgun married, a shotgun wedding, forget. That's not right. It's like a, I'm just like kind of using that to, to income, to get to the, to the,
Starting point is 00:08:14 kind of like, weird sort of politically accelerated sort of frame of the mission before he became senator. he was just a car dealer. He didn't have any political... No, that's it. Yeah, that's it. That's an amazing way to...
Starting point is 00:08:28 No, he's like a donor. He was like a big donor to Trump, you know. Ah, okay, that's funny. And then, you know, my understanding of what, you know, in terms of like, you know, so to start off with, it's not as though, you know, I'm sure Max Miller and Emily Moreno
Starting point is 00:08:43 like were into each other at one point, but they didn't really have like a longstanding foundation of like love per se. It was kind of like a quick... What do you know? Like, who knows about? My best impression, okay, and there were, like, a lot of political factors that went into the marriage. And that is particularly related to Max Miller and Bernie Moreno, okay?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Because, like, Sepp Bernie Moreno was then going to... This was, like, his avenue to get the Trump endorsement for this Ohio Republican gubernatorial Senate primary in 2024, which we're going to go. And then he wins in 2024. So basically, you know, it ends. up, it seems like the dissolution or the breakdown between Emily and Max is really about extraneous political
Starting point is 00:09:27 stuff primarily. Okay. Having to do with the relationship between Max and Senator. Why do you think that? Why did the break up? Well, there's evidence in, first of all, there's some evidence, first of all, sources in a position to know things have related this to me. And also
Starting point is 00:09:43 there's material in that Dropbox thing that you apparently didn't bother to look at. Where Emily's saying this. Emily's saying this. She's saying it really hurt her when, for example, I saw your tweet. I saw your tweet quoting that. But that doesn't mean that that's like that could have been,
Starting point is 00:09:58 they could have been fighting for a long time. Yeah, I'm saying it was a factor. It was a significant factor. There could have also, you know, more interpersonal stuff. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And what, Max doesn't seem like the most, you know, it seems like he's hot headed, let's say. Yeah. So I'm sure there was interpersonal stuff as well. He talks like an abuser.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I don't know about that. What do you know? I don't know. How many, Well, you talk to lots of abusers? There's a... Are you confessing something yourself? There is, uh, but what was a political disagreement between Miller and Moreno?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like, well, what did they disagree on? What was the thing? There was a political conflict that arose. Okay, that's almost a state, you know. Over what? I'm not at liberty to say at the moment. Okay, but it was, it was like a policy issue? Yeah, it was a political issue, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Hmm. Interesting. Okay, but what is in the house and what is it? Like, why do they have to fight over politics? They're both representing Ohio, okay? There's like issues around like turf. You know, it was whatever. And you know, and Senator, you know, where the members of the Senate and members of the House sometimes have to work with each other on things,
Starting point is 00:11:03 especially if they're representing the same in the same state delegation. Was it Social Security? Because Moreno wrote an op-ed with Elizabeth Warren saying raised taxes on raise the cap on Social Security. I'm not at Liberty News. That is. I've been preoccupied with other stuff. Maybe I will be at Liberty to disclose it at a certain point. I'm in Sanofi, New Mexico right now because I had to go to an Epstein Survivor's
Starting point is 00:11:25 Truth and Reconciliation Commission hearing today, okay? Oh, that's bad. You harassed the victims? Richard, don't even joke. What about victims? Because I know, because I'm accused of harassing victims. Like, that's why their group chats light up the minute that I'm spotted anywhere, I didn't harass the victim.
Starting point is 00:11:45 They scurry when you were there when you were there. What is this commission? It's like a state legislature commission. So in February, the New Mexico state legislature, or maybe it was in January, earlier this year, the New Mexico state legislature unanimously passed a law, which invoked a seldom used provision of the New Mexico state constitution. I think there are a handful of states that have this provision, where the state legislature can set up a true. like a truth and reconciliation commission of sorts. So the woman who is basically, and this is, and it's bipartisan, okay, so it's two Republicans, two Democrats. The Democrat representative Romero is the one who's basically leading it. And the mandate for the commission calls on them to issue a report about specifically Epstein's dealings or criminality or like, who's implicated in things in New Mexico.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Because the idea is there was never a robust investigation done into his activities in New Mexico specifically. Okay. And so today they issued their interim report, and they did like a public presentation that was related to it. So here's listen to this. Okay. So on the notes to the legislators who were running the meeting, somebody showed up a self-declared survivor showed up
Starting point is 00:13:20 wanting to testify it because there was like a portion of the meeting set aside for any survivor testimony

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