MTracey podcast - Unraveling the endless Epstein insanity

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.mtracey.netBy popular demand, I spent the weekend immersed in yet another Epstein deep-dive. I report my preliminary findings....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are live. Let me retweet. Uh-huh. Yeah, so you've been, I've started to watch a documentary. People have been talking about the documentary. I've just read a few articles. I want to go back and read the Vanity Fair article. I really haven't read enough, you know, as much as I'm talking about this.
Starting point is 00:00:25 You're like a NAIF. Yes, you're teaching me. You're holding my hand through all of this. But I did listen to the Ross Dowell. I love educating you. Yes, and I like learning. And the Ross Dow, I did listen to the Ross Dowth that podcast. So, yeah, I've been consuming some media on Epstein.
Starting point is 00:00:46 What do you think about this story that the Senate, was it the Judiciary Committee, or was it? It was Dick Durbin sent a letter saying that like a thousand FBI agents were like combing through the Epstein files to see like any mention of Trump? Yeah. So Richard Durbin, the senator from Illinois, Democrat minority whip now, if I'm not mistaken, made the claim that he was told by sources. You know, he didn't specify really, I guess presumably perhaps people in the FBI, it's unclear, that some kind of directive went out. department-wide or agency-wide directive at the FBI where they were to be put on, like FBI agents were to be brought in for this ad hoc sort of emergency task. And some of them were on like 24-hour duty.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I don't know how that could be true. I mean, can people really be proficient at analyzing dense decades-old crime files when they're that sleep deprived? I don't know. Maybe if they have the right chemical assistance. But yeah, so Durbin now claims that they were told to flag anything that related to Trump. Okay. So let's assume this is true for the sake of argument. I don't know if it's true. But let's assume it's true. It's not implausible. I mean, it seems to me that both Trump supporters, and detractors are now willing to more or less acknowledge
Starting point is 00:02:36 that he's using the DOJ as like his personal law firm. That's why he hired Bondi. That's why he initially wanted Mac Gates. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we get it. We get it.
Starting point is 00:02:48 The Trump supporters want that. I mean, they celebrate that. Okay. So is it plausible that Bondi had people pulled and told the flag any reference of Trump? Sure. but I think that gets to the Wall Street Journal story
Starting point is 00:03:05 that came out a few days ago. There's going to be materials that are embarrassed to Trump. It just doesn't bear on these larger theories that we have. Right. So, yeah, so that's not that interesting. Yeah, okay, so what's kind of, what's been catching your eye the last few days
Starting point is 00:03:19 as you've been digging into the material? Okay, so I've been digging more into the materials. And I've spoken to some interesting people who have various connections. to different aspects of this. And what's amazing to me is that the more layers you unpeel, the more absurd it gets. Again, I issued a tongue-in-cheek apology last week sometime
Starting point is 00:03:49 saying that I should have covered the Gisley-Maxwell trial more in depth. And maybe I should adjust my pronunciation. It's like Gilein or Gilan or the S is silence. But I don't know, I'm going to use the dumb-down American pronunciation. Okay. Let me check with ChatGPT while you talk. And many things stand out, which is that, for instance, the New York Times today had a new article saying, what could be in the Epstein file? Did you see this? And they're attributing this to one Maria Farmer, who has this claim to fame of
Starting point is 00:04:35 being the original Epstein accuser. So she even predates Virginia Goufrey, allegedly, in that she was an of age adult. She came into contact with Epstein through an art gallery function where he purchased a piece of art from her. And then she was invited to go out to Ohio, New Albany, Ohio, where Epstein's benefactor, benefactor Wexner had an estate was like involved in developing some real estate project
Starting point is 00:05:12 in Ohio and this woman claims that she was sexually victimized over the course of that while of age. But she has sisters she claims. She claims one of her sister. Yeah. Something happened to the sister, didn't they? The sister. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:30 So then the shit. So I guess Maria Farmer could be said to have quote. trafficked her sister by putting the sister in contact with Epstein, and then the sister ends up going to the ranch in New Mexico. And she claims that Epstein at one point got into bed and snuggled with her. Yes. You know, I watched the start of a documentary today. I watched the first 20 minutes or something. And yeah, I know that one on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Yeah, the Netflix one was a total sham, but go ahead. Yeah, it starts with Maria Farmer, and it starts with, and didn't she also claim the sister that she got a massage from Jis Lane and then she was topless? And I think it was that Epstein could see her. And that's like, could see her from the layout of the house. Something like that, yeah. Yeah, so it's nothing. Epstein didn't really touch her, except he wanted to, he wanted to cuddle. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And as to that Netflix documentary, it's called Filthy Rich, right? I've now seen, I can't, I find it difficult to sit through. hours and hours of that stuff, but like I've gone through portions of it. And bear in mind, that documentary was released in 2020. And the timing is critical here because that's post Epstein's death in custody.
Starting point is 00:06:52 In August 2019, I think this documentary came out in June 2020, if I'm not mistaken. So that's when the Epstein Victims' Compensation Fund first became open for business. and so there's obviously an incentive for the highest profile accusers to craft in conjunction with their lawyers
Starting point is 00:07:19 who also received a lucrative cut of all of this I would love to tally up how much they got, Boyes Schiller and Brad Edwards and others, to maximize and dramatize like their versions of the story because that's when that was like the sweet spot chronologically of when they could receive the most lucrative payouts.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And the Netflix whole thing was, you know, if you notice, none of the quote victims in any of those stories are asked a single adversarial question. I think in episode two or three, it's like a four-part series, right? They have this woman, Sarah Ransom that they interviewed. This is one of the most mind-boggling ones of all.
Starting point is 00:08:04 because this woman, and I'm not even trying to say this to be derogatory, there's nothing that you could reasonably call this woman, if not a certifiable lunatic. Okay? She had emails of hers that Dershowitz eventually motions to unseal that came out in early 2004 in which she's clearly in the throes of some kind of mental mania in which she's not even in our universe anymore. He admits over the course of 2016
Starting point is 00:08:40 that she made up a claim that she was in possession of sex tapes of Bill Clinton and Donald Trump because the idea was she wanted to stop both pedophile Trump to quote her and also evil bitch Hillary to quote her from getting elected president. So she was saying that the CIA after emails
Starting point is 00:09:00 that she was going to the Russians, the quote, the Russians for help she claimed like she was in touch with like some the prosecutor of Moscow or something and that she was on a crusade to personally and singularly
Starting point is 00:09:22 affect the 2016 election and like save humanity from either of these candidates and she admits that she made these claims up in email It's not even disputable. And in that Netflix documentary from 2020, she's presented as, look at the caption under her when she's been. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:45 She's just an Epstein survivor. Yeah, yeah, I saw that. It's just assumed to have the utmost credibility. Yeah, yeah, like it's their job title or something. Was it victim or was it survivor? It was one of those. It was like, I think it was victim. I think it says survivor.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I pulled the clip. Yeah, either way. Survivor is even more dramatic, right? Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like, it's like their job. Like, yeah, this is a survivor, like an official thing. And so, I mean, if you, if you look at this clip, I tweeted it at July 18th that people and the Survivor thing is, I mean, funny, just the use of the term.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Like, FC never killed anybody. Survivor to me is a reality show. That's it. You made it to the last season of Survivor. Yeah. The Epstein Survivor should do a reality show where they're like voted off the island. They should go back to the island in the Virgin Islands and then get loaded off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I mean, I like the documentaries because, like, you get, like, pictures of the rooms and stuff out of it makes it more vivid. What was the – I saw that episode, like, two or three was called The Island. Is that – is that fun to watch? I mean, what do they do? How do they get access to this stuff? They must have – Yeah, it says Sarah – I'm looking at it now. It says Sarah Ransom, her job title is Survive.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah, okay. And, like, mysteriously, I'm not 100% sure, but I think she's Australian or South African. I think she's South Africa. I'm not 100% sure, but. She's from one of the Anglo-Sphere countries. And mysteriously, she's living this, like, incredibly cushy life in Catalonia, Spain, which is not explained. Like, that's where they go to interview her. How did she get this life of, like, relative comforts in Catalonia, Spain?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Like, what is her job? Like, how does she do. She get money from that? Epstein estate or one of the bags? Yeah, ding, ding, ding. Like, do they mention that in this documentary? She's limited up, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I haven't. And now he's suing. And so people are going to think that I'm cherry picking some of the craziest Epstein accusers to discredit everybody. Well, you got to bear in mind. Only a small percentage of them have ever been named. Some of them did so voluntarily because they converted it into basically a livelihood. Are there any who are, you know, implacable like anyone who's, I guess, I mean, The rest are Jane Does.
Starting point is 00:12:07 The rest are Jane Does. But are there any of how many the ones that we named? There's like, how many have been named? Like four? I think there's more than that. There's more than that. But how many? I don't have the exact number.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah. But anyways, Epstein probably had relations. But this person, Sarah Ransom, and then Juliette Bryant, who is the one who claims she was abducted by UFOs. And that she witnessed Epstein transform into reptilian, creature, you would think that these two people were just kind of marginal accusers who were maybe trying to glom onto something. No, they're like amazingly central to so many of the wrinkles of the story. They are named plaintiffs on the litigation that was filed in the Virgin Islands against
Starting point is 00:13:00 Epstein's estate that then led to the creation of the Epstein compensations, compensation funds. So was Maria Farmer, the one who was featured in the Newark Times yet again today, and have collected many millions of dollars. Maria Farmer and Sarah Ransom are
Starting point is 00:13:25 currently, yet again, suing the FBI. So the past settlements that they've gotten weren't enough. However many multi-millions they received to live in Catalonia, Spain and like some very swanky-looking oceanfront property. That wasn't enough.
Starting point is 00:13:42 They're now doing another class action lawsuit against the FBI claiming negligence or whatever kind of gross misconduct in relation to their... I don't know you could do this. I don't know you could just sue like I've heard her the government... For $600 million.
Starting point is 00:14:00 The government doesn't investigate something to your liking. You've been maybe been a victim of a crime. and you can, like, I don't know, like someone robbed you. I'm going to sue my local police department. They didn't do enough to do it. Like, this never happens, right? There must be all kinds of cases where if this was like the norm, you should be able to this. I know there's something called qualified immunity.
Starting point is 00:14:20 It's been a while since I've been in law school. But I know that there are barriers to suing the government for like not doing its job well. Like, I'm going to sue Trump over his tariffs or something. Like that would be weird. Like, that world can exist. So it's like, actually, there are very strong legal barriers to do it. this, right? So there must be some reason why these women are always able to sue the government, and these cases don't just get thrown out of court. Well, yeah, qualified immunity, my understanding
Starting point is 00:14:48 is, I didn't go to the University of Chicago law schools. Of course. Nor did I go to Harvard law like Maureen Comey, who then became this great crusader for the quote-unquote victims and survivors. My understanding of that, as a general rule, qualified immunity would apply in these generic kinds of situations. However, the government has admitted to liability already in various respects on this particular subject, dating back to Epstein's original plea agreement, where an unusual sort of step was taken that people then sort of interpreted to corroborate these vast theories that they've developed. but the idea was that Epstein would admit to certain kind of narrowed liability under this victim's rights statute that was only passed in 2004.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I remember like, so these negotiations happened in 2007, 2008. They're talking about a statute from 2004 when there was like a victim's rights sort of movement. and Bush signed into like into law an omnibus crime appropriations bill essentially that codify this new set of requirements for what obligations the federal government was required to undertake to compensate victims. And pursuant to that non-prosecution agreement, the idea was that Epstein would agree to like discreet compensation under that victim's crime. statute, Victims' rights statute, rather. And it was unclear how that would be effectuated.
Starting point is 00:16:44 So the government, there was like debate within the prosecutor's office or within the DOJ, but how proactive the DOJ would have required to be required to be to notify the purported victims of Epstein that they were eligible for some kind of financial remuneration. And that kind of exposed the government to liability in a way that wouldn't be the case in a generic qualified immunity situation.
Starting point is 00:17:09 That's my interpretation. And so now you have, like, many years later, Sarah Ransom and Farmer and these people, despite their confabulations, coming up with novel new arguments for why they're now entitled to another class action suit against the DOJ and FBI for $600 million.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Obviously, the idea is not that they personally would obtain all of that, but it'll be yet another class action And just like there was a class action settlement fund established with the Epstein estate, J.P. Morgan, Deutsche Bank. Now they want a new one for the federal government. Yeah. It's $600 million. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Just it's, yeah, this is kind of, this is hysteria. I mean, it's amazing. Have you gotten any reaction to your, any reaction as far as like, not just people talking, but like anyone looking into it or anything or anyone contacting you about the piece on Bannon and you wrote? Well, it's gotten a decent amount of traffic. I got some subsection saying there's a lot of traffic on your ban on an article right now. So people are clearly interested. I'm amazed.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I never got a notification like that. I don't know. I don't think I have either. Maybe I didn't notice it before. But I'm amazed at how.

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