Mum's The Word! The Parenting Podcast - GEORGIA & KELSEY: Dealing With Bullying & Why We're Sick Of Winter Already

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

Georgia Jones and Kelsey Parker are back in the studio together, catching up as everyone attempts to slide back into routine after the holidays.This week, they talk honestly about how they, and the kids, are coping with the return to school life, and whether Bodhi has fully settled into primary school yet.They also tackle a big and important topic: how parents should deal with school bullying, sharing thoughts, worries, and the realities of navigating it as a mum.The girls also debate winter vs summer parenting (spoiler: January and February are firmly in the bin), from dark mornings to endless layers and the general survival mode that comes with the colder months.And of course, We Listen & We Don’t Judge returns, with listener confessions that prove no one is alone in the chaos of parenting.A Create Podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, we're back people. Welcome to a brand new episode of Mums the Word. I'm Georgia Jones. I forgot to introduce myself. George Jones. And I'm Elsie Parker, I think. Today we'll be chatting all about school from back to class routines to dealing with bullying. As well as your best parenting laughs and fowls in another edition of Listen.

down charge. So grab a coffee. Get comfy and let's jump into a brand new episode of Mams the word. We've only been doing this for God knows how long and I forget to introduce myself. Yeah, of course. Am I okay. So the amateur, amateur. She's forgot. She's had such a lovely time over the break. I really have. Talking of having a lovely time over the break. How have your children dealt with going back to school after such a lovely brick. Yeah, mine were fine going back. I think they love their school that they're just happy to go back. Like, I never really get any problems or drama about them going to school.

I feel like I would really struggle if I did. Yeah, oh God, I think I would as well. Cooper's the same. Cooper's like, he'll have a few days before he went to me. I was like, right, so Cooper, in two days' time, I like to prepare him for going back to school because he's not very good when something's just put on it. Yeah, thrown on him.

But I was watching, like, a video the other day, and it was of this woman explaining to somebody, like, as an adult, if we were just like here now, and all of a sudden somebody went to you, right, we need to go here right this second, you'd be a bit like, oh, gosh, I'm not ready. Like, I need a bit of time to prepare. And it's the same with kids. Like, they need that time to, like, just process.

I do think people don't talk to their children. And we talk about everything. And they'll ask me questions. They'd be like, when am I back to school and we'll do a countdown? whatever, but I talk to them about, even Friday, I've got a babysitter coming. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, we've now spoken about that this morning. On Friday, this person's coming to look after you. This is the time you're going to be going to be in your head. I know you think you're not going to be. You're going to be staying up and having a lovely time, but you've got dancing in the morning.

It's a preparation, isn't it? Yeah, I think always talk to your children about whatever they're doing. Sometimes you can overtalk and scare them. Yeah. But I think, you know, feeding you. them with that. Just a little like a little insight like because when I said it's Cooper I was like right so we've got in two days time Sunday to today Monday tomorrow then you go back to school on Tuesday and he went

can we just not talk about this please mommy? Yeah I don't talk about now we'll talk about it Tuesday morning when I put my uniform on. Yeah well I went yeah we don't need to talk about it I just wanted to let you know so you know and that was that it just in his mind then Yeah you've planted the seed I didn't keep going

apart from that he was like absolutely fine you came back from school bouncing off the bloody walls there was me expecting him to be like out like a light in bed when he got back he was on another level because he was so happy to be back yeah can I ask

Bodie's probably not there with it but have you had six seven with Aurelia? No but yeah have we talked about this already no yeah Brony does six seven even Winnie does six seven

oh gosh six seven I don't say it right and it drives Cooper mad. You just keep doing it wrong though. Isn't it funny? How many times the number six and seven appear?

I know. In life. Because imagine being a dance teacher. Oh my God. Well, I was explaining. Oh God, that'd be a nightmare for you. A five, six, six, seven. But I say, when I was explaining it to like my mum and dad, what the thing was,

I was like, it's basically just when the numbers are, when you say six seven or you see the number six seven. But it's about a basketball player. Oh, is it? Yeah. I think. Is it actually? I think it's about a basketball player.

Hello, my name is George Jones. I'm a grandma. I think it's from a song about a basketball player or something. I don't actually know the full thing. Okay. But it's crazy how much six, seven. Please send your answers in on a postcard. But even we did a K-pop demon hunter party just before Christmas.

And they all came in. And they were, and I went, right, okay, everyone get it out of their system now. Everyone do six, seven. Keep doing it. and then it's done. Yeah. And then we will not bring six, seven up again, okay? Because we will be counting you in five, six, seven, eight.

We can't keep doing six seven. Yeah. And did they get it? Was there a lot with... That year then was like, wow. Right. But yeah, it's how much they actually say it. Yeah, we've had six, seven.

Well, I'm hoping that's something that won't be carrying through the whole of 2026. No, common it's got a go now. It's got to be something close. Have you seen the new Demon Hunter's film? No, well, there's a new one. I might have just dreamt this. This does happen sometimes. I do like to dream things and then tell them to people as gospel.

And actually it's not, no, that was in my dream. It's just a fit. No, children, I've not seen the new K-pop. Right, let's pause on that. I'm going to do my research for the next episode that we filmed together and I'll tell you whether there is a new one or not. But I don't know. Don't quote me on that.

Don't quote you. Don't quote me. I still need to watch the housemaid. I still haven't seen it. Yeah, people's like opinions on that. saw someone really like saying like oh that was like comedy oh and I didn't feel like that when I watched it. What question I need to ask you about it is it quite because the book obviously is quite it's a thriller

isn't it? Yeah. I'm not very good with scary films. No it's not too it's not too scary. Yeah I don't like scary films. Right okay fine. So you'll be fine. Okay good right just need to just need to check that. I mean the thing is there is some comedy in it because I feel like they've over exaggerated some of the characters a little bit but then again it's coming from a book like it's not like a biography is it of someone's actual life it's a written book so it's a bit yeah it's a bit

Amanda Seafreid's amazing I think and she she plays her up a little bit like of how dramatic she is yeah okay right well great which I do get that in the book when you yeah oh I do she's an absolute yeah she has like an absolute nutter

yeah okay right good I will inform you all once I've watched it as to what I think I might just hit myself but take myself to the cinema I mean I really want to watch the new avatar and I think that's been absolutely slated as well. That's it. It's three hours of your life.

Oh, Jesus. I haven't got three hours to give to the cinema. I don't think I could sit in a cinema and stay away. I'll be asleep. Yeah. I just don't think I've got it in me. So, it's cold. Don, did you know it's cold?

In our notes, our producer Dom's written, how was the back to school run? It's very cold. Yeah, a dad this morning had crocs on. And as he, like, walked towards me, he slipped but you know when you're like heart goes because he actually slipped on a bit of ice but I was thinking yeah well crocs probably aren't the best like footwear I'd probably say they're not the best footwear for winter full stop no he had socks on he had socks and crocs but he slipped and I was

like and he had his kids and you know he was like a bit embarrassed I think a man in a pair of crox is an absolute ick for me will hate crox I mean he actually wants to burn mine they are well I don't mind them as a house shoe yeah I actually do have a pair as a house shoe I don't wear them out as like, oh, this is a, like a fashionable, but camping. Camping, yeah. It's a game changer the crocs. They're so comfort. Oh, yeah, but put a man in a pair.

No, thank you. I mean, it could be, it could be like the fittest man in the world and if he puts a pair of crocs on. So who's your, he's a crash. Who is my crook? Jason, Mammo, I can't say his words, I'm drooling so much. He would literally look ridiculous in crocs. Well, he would.

As would every man. Yeah. Yeah, as would every man. No, I feel like Danny would suit crox. He wouldn't be seen dead in a pair of crox. I will have to say something, and I'm going to sound like a, Karen right now. Oh, here she goes. There's not been much gritting going on.

Oh. He's very... It's very... It's very slippery everywhere. Yeah. Like, literally, like, but honestly, I'm being deadly serious here. Have they forgotten to grit the... We probably don't pay enough counsel tax.

That could be it. Maybe the government doesn't fund gritting anymore. No, probably not. But yeah. Just got to get on with it. I actually saw a man doing it. It's the old people. The old is they can't get out.

Like even my nan, I would worry about her walking to her local shops. Yeah. If a man's slipping in crooks. Danny actually didn't go on the bike yesterday because it was too icy. Yeah, too icy. I know. Well, is that just, so he just goes out on the bike. Sorry, I actually meant his push back.

I always push bike, okay. With Cooper to school, he drove instead. Normally he goes, they both go on their, like, pedal bikes. But you don't, you walk? I walk. Why wouldn't he just walk if he couldn't go on the bike? Because he's bougie like that. Lazy.

He only travels by wheels. Yeah, that's it. Oh, I love that, though, that he actually does the cycling with him. Yeah. Has Bodey fully settled into primary school now? Yeah, I do think the end of last term, he was struggling with actually they were so tired. Don't they get like that though Towards the end of term

I think even like Cooper at seven nearly eight It's nearly eight Oh my God I nearly said six and seven then that Seven seven nearly eight Still gets tired towards the end of term It's like they're just done Yeah I think we are as well

I think the term should just be shorter Just make it even shorter Oh why Then we'd have to have them at home more I don't mind having them I've got it before I know well I don't But then it gets to a point

when I have to work and I'm just being asked to watch seven million times him do something on his switch. And I'm like, sweetheart, mummy is trying to work. And the reason I've popped you on your switch right now is because I'm working. I've got to do this work. So then I can't watch you as well. And it just gets to that point. And it's awful because you feel guilty. And I know everyone, like you see all these things of like, you'll never be able to watch them again.

And yes, I do agree with that. Like, time is so precious. However, I've got a workhouse. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. As lovely as it is having him at home, it's also quite nice having a routine. Yeah. I do like a routine.

So they broke up a bit earlier, my children, and I came and did an episode up here, and I brought them up to the studio. I saw. And Bodie was literally in his element. And then when we came back, he was like, can I do a podcast? So I just think, like, when you do have them like that, they're learning and they're like, do you know, I haven't had Cooper on the podcast yet, have I? You need to have him on.

Did they come on the podcast that time? No, no, no, they just came and... Came and sat. Yeah, came and sat. And then Bodie was like to Dom, can I come and do the podcast? Oh, you should do a Bodie one. Because you did an Aurely one, didn't you?

Yeah, I've done it right, yeah. Right, right, we need to do a Bodie one and we need to do a Cooper one. Yeah. Cooper will either be brilliant. We could have Bodie and Cooper at the same time. Oh, that'd be cute, wouldn't it? Yeah. We can't have round at the same time as them. No, because...

Pop kids wouldn't get worded. Yeah, the boys would just be sat there like... Yeah, mute. So, talking of school, I was having a chat with mum friend a while back actually about bullying. Because we were talking about like how you would deal with it. And actually over Christmas it was a bit of a topic. We were having a chat about it for some reason.

And someone, I was there who was like, well, if they hit you, you hit them back. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. What's that a family member? Yeah. And I was like, I don't agree with that. But God, you wouldn't believe the amount of people that think you should do that.

And I'm like, but you'll get into trouble then. And I was always, I was a bit of a teacher's. I always tried to be a good girl at school. So I would, wouldn't dreamt of hitting someone back. Not that ever got hit as a kid by a bully. Yeah. And then it was also like, tell a teacher, at what point does the parent get, do you get involved? Would you?

What would you do, Kells? Say if really came home and she was like, oh, so-and-so's bullying me. What would be your first step? Well, I think, I think, It's hard. It's really hard. Well, for me, we did have an ongoing, someone being quite negative. Yeah. And kept saying negative things.

And every day she'd come out of school and she'd be really upset. Oh. But I did say to her, like, that is life. People are mean. Like, and you sort of do have to get on with it. Because, you know, if that person's being mean, move yourself away. Go and play with other children. Yeah.

Arrayal is quite good. She kept just taking herself off to a little play. that they've got to school. So she, like, knew that she was finding it too much. She just took herself off. Like a sift. Yeah. The thing is, it really is, like, an empath as well.

So she can't bear when people are even, like, if someone was being picked on as well, she would hate that. She'd have to go and say something. I mean, I feel like I was that person that, like, if someone was getting bullied, I'd have to go and say something to the bully and be like, what are you doing?

But say if, say, if, really, it wasn't like that, would you go to the parent first or would you go to the teacher first? I think I'd go to the teacher. also I'd be like, can we not make it a big deal? Big deal. Again, like, it's not that parent's fault either. Or it could be. Yeah, but then...

I mean, it could be. Well, it depends on the parent, but also, they are not an extension of your arm. We've spoken about this before. And like, I don't know, it's really hard. What, that child is going through something maybe or, I don't, I don't know. Or they're just a dick because their parent is. Like, I do think, I do think there are some parents. Yeah, but then that's life as well, because people are just dicks.

Well, yeah. Yeah. So what can you actually do? You tell your child, you tell Cooper, do you know what? Some people in life are just dicks. Yeah. And you have to deal with it now. I think we are struggling to actually make our children resilient. Because people are going in and saying stuff to the other parent and whatever else.

And everyone's like, manby, pamby with their kids. Like, you know, I think when you get to secondary school and bullying, but again, I think phones, you know, this is bullying is a whole massive topic, isn't it? the phones are literally setting you up to be bullied. Oh yeah, they are. The pressure, like, I just dread to when we get to that age where it's like, when do we give them a phone? I want to hold that off as long as possible. And you can literally be bullied online now 24-7.

Oh, yeah. You know, even people say horrible comments, swash you, basically are getting bullied. Yeah, I know. A friend of mine's kid was playing Roblox, which I worked like Cooper player. And it wasn't in her care, and he was online.

only with his friends but even though it was only his friends they were still being nasty to each other online and it's mad isn't it? Take the face away they start being nasty it's like what happens between human interaction

and then you put a screen between them all of a sudden they're like oh I can be a bit of a dick now I just don't get it because I just don't know how like not saying I'm good I'm the most perfect person but I just would never go and be like that no cows because you're nice and neither would die, no part of my body or mind thinks, do you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to go and be

nasty to that person because I can. Yeah. Like, why? Why? What's the bloody point also? What a waste of time? Oh, it is a waste of time. When some people come up at my stuff, I'm like, oh, as if you've got nothing better to do. Yeah, that's it though. You've got nothing better to do than just be negative. I know, but that's like where you, you've so got the upper hand as well, because you just, it's laughable, you're just like, what a shame, that your life is so sad, that all, the one thing that gives you joy is being mean to someone. Yeah.

And you've got the time as well to do it. Poor you. But that's what I think, going back to the bullying, but you could say that we're bullied online. Well, yeah, you could, but then we're adults and we know how to deal. Well, I mean, we don't always know how to do it. No, but you still look at that and go, okay, but you have to be resilient. Like, there are mean people out there.

Whatever you do, you're going to come, you might work in an office. there's a mean person in the office. You're going to, like, you go to uni, there's going to be the person. Like, not everyone is going to get on. And I think that's what you need to say to your child. You're not going to get on with everyone because people have got different personalities. And also, it's how that person feels in that moment in that time.

Yeah. They might not actually feel like that. And, you know, I think for me, I'm quite an outspoken person. You? So sometimes I could, maybe someone's offended by what I'm saying, but I'm not meaning to offend you. But I am quite like, I always said when I was growing up, I was like, my might, like especially with teachers, with people like, you either loved me or you hated me.

And that was the difference. Yeah. Because I don't have the filter. So I just say what I think. But some people don't, do they? So you need to teach them, you know, there is people out there. Like my mom, I just sit there and cringe sometimes when she says stuff. I go, oh, I can't believe you just said that.

But there's no, there's no, there's no, like malice. No, she's just saying what she sees. Yeah. It's like catchphrase. Say what you see We should probably all be a little bit more like that But we're not But people get offended now

We're so offended I love all these comedians that talk about it Because we just live in a world that everyone's offended Well yeah And it's like you ask a question But you don't actually want the truth It's like oh do I look tired today And then God forbid someone goes

Yeah you look back of shit You do actually yeah You'd be like Show me I look tired And it's like but you ask the question So if you didn't want the answer Don't bloody ask the question But no, you're so right in that you should teach them people are mean.

Some people are mean. I actually watched something this morning and it was Gary V. Anyway, he was saying parents nowadays are teaching kids that winning is everything. So like basically, you know, if you don't, like, Cooper was playing football and he didn't win. And I went, it's okay, darling, you know, it's fine. Second place is really great too. he was saying that really it should be like yeah you've lost and you can win but you also can lose and that's all all right because he was saying if you teach if you teach kids that unless you're

unless you win everything else is a everything else is a failure yeah then you're when they go out into real life if they don't succeed at everything which they won't which they won't and it's okay to not and you've got to like sit in your failure that you won't that you won't that you You'll just think that you've got to win everything. And if you don't, you're then just a massive failure. But then what the fine line is with that is now people have got the sports days and there's not clear winners. No, but there should be. Yeah, because I think you need to learn.

Like, Arraylia does competitions. She not, like, you didn't win. Yeah. Sometimes in life you lose. But also I say to her, look, that's one judge that's watching you. Like, they've seen it differently. Everyone sees the world differently. And that they don't think your people.

piece is good enough, they think her piece is better. Like, that's how they've seen it. Yeah, exactly. But I think we're just now losing that people can't win. Yeah. And I think that's unfair to the people that are good at them sports. Yeah, because like that's the thing. It's like, especially with sports, in fact, because a lot of people, not a lot of people,

but some people that are good at sports aren't necessarily good in. Academic, but then you can have the winners in the academic and they're at top of the class. Oh, yeah, but you can't win on sports, they. Yeah, and it's kind of not. fair. No, it's not fair because then people, you know, you're not going to go to the Olympics, go, oh sorry, you're all winners. No one's

won a gold. Because you're all winners. The Olympics will exist soon because you're all winners. Because no one can lose. Everyone's won a gold. And everyone's just got to be fair because life's fair. Yeah. Life's not fair. And life is tough, hard. And when you grow older, you realise how tough it is. Really bloody

do. So let's not set our children up to fair. To fair. But I don't think some people realise they're doing it. And I think, you know, you can, obviously, when your child comes back and says someone's being mean to me, your heart hurts. And you think, but they've got to learn how to deal with people because you're not going to be there when they're 30. No. To, you know. No, but to be in the office space or wherever.

I mean, you can't wrap them in cotton wall. Cooper comes through when he's 30. He goes, mommy. Mommy. So what's been mean to me in the office? Like, don't really, darling, I'm coming in. Yeah, that's it. I'm going to go to the boss.

Get their mumming. Get their mum in. You give my kid a pair eyes. Also, what would you actually say to the mum? I don't know. Would you actually confront the mum? I think if it got really bad, if they were being really, really mean,

if they were being physical, I think I would be like, look, this has happened a few times. It's been brought to my attention. And Cooper may well be accountable as well. And if he's done stuff, please tell me because I think that's good. Because that's the thing, you never know how.

It's when people go and walk around like the rose-tinted glasses like their kids not. My child's perfect. So your child being horrible and being that, but my child's not done anything. And also, you don't know if your child's actually telling you the full truth. Exactly. Well, it happened a couple of times over Christmas. And it was great because my brother-in-law, Anthony, actually called Cooper out a couple of times. Because their kids are a little bit younger, Casson Eden.

and something had happened, Cooper was like, Cass did this to me and Anthony had seen it all happen. And Anthony just went, well, you just did it to him first. I just saw, I just literally just watch you do it at Cooper.

And Cooper like was, was just like, oh, oh, right. Yeah, you're right. Whereas I hadn't seen anything happen. So if I'd have just been like, are you telling the truth? Like, and Cass, what happened?

And then you're like, well, I don't know who bloody is telling the thing. And also, does it really matter as well? doesn't really matter. But yeah, so that was really good because I like another parent or another friend calling my child out if they need to.

No, I think it's good. There's a level. Like, I don't want strangers telling my kid off. But like, apart from teachers. But there's like something I quite like about someone within your family or friendship group telling your discipline in your child as well.

So they know they can't get away with it just because it's not much. me or daddy. Yeah. We have in massive. Me and Kelsey, parent, both, like, all the kids. Yeah, so did me and Rose, actually. Albu, sex and things.

Oh, here she goes again. What's Kelsey going to tell me off this time? But I try and team talk, Kim. I think it's about the team talking. I think if you can talk as much as possible, then something's going in. It's surely got to go in. Yeah, well, it has.

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And I just think the darkness when you wake up. I was literally driving. Never done. I was thinking, I can't wait to it. It's like light outside. Oh, and you can walk outside and not be freezing. And I find it really hard to get up. Yeah, I do.

when it's cold. I'm just like, yeah, I like the heating quite warm in my house, so it's not like you get out of bed to a freezing house. Do you set your heating? Like, does it go off at a certain time? No, I don't, don't ask me about my heating cows because I don't bloody know. Oh, okay. I think it... Because mine goes off

like in the night for a little bit, or it goes lower during the night, and also it was freezing and Bodie came in and he was like, oh, I'm having a nightmare, some ducks are attacking me in my sleep. I was like, oh, you're got to go back to bed. So I walked it back to bed. I thought, oh my God, it is so cold. So I just got back in my bed. But it's that. I just, I'm just summer. I'm summer.

I'm summer. I'm summer. I am completely summer. Not even spring. And you know, people love the winter because I think they like Christmas and like everything that goes with it. So Christmas is done. Just bring the summer now. I like two months. Two months of winter, which is the week before Christmas and the week after, because it's New Year's Eve. Oh, no, hang on. And then. obviously the very first week of December, which is my birthday. But apart from that, I'm done. January February, in the bin.

Yeah. Unless any of my friend's birthdays, which they are in those months, and my child. But I'm a mother. But apart from that, in the bin. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not there for it. Yeah, I'm not feeling it.

It's cold. And it's also, when the kids get, like, it's little things in it. My kids look, like, Rayla loses everything. And now, you know, she's got to go in with the earmuffs, the glass. What's making it out of school? Oh, can you find a glove that a child likes as well? Cooper is so fussy about gloves. Is it why?

Like what? Like they're too thick, they're too thin. What does his mates wear? Oh my God, honestly. And then you find the perfect pair, loses them. Yeah, that's it. Can I ever find them again. So that's struggling out of house.

I've just been to Sainsbury's and bought these for antenna. Gloves aren't cheap. They're not cheap, actually, gloves. Nothing's cheap. Nothing's cheap anymore. Oh my God. Kels, it's that time of the week. We listen and we don't judge.

Every week she gets a new jingle. A new jingle. And I'm here for it, really am. So I set my alarm for the first day back at school and still forgot it was the first day back at school. I'd shit my pants if that happened. I'd be like, oh my God. Yeah, I had anxiety last night about the alarm.

Yeah, did you? Imagine if I just didn't set the alarm and we woke up at like 8 o'clock and I just like rocked into school late I'm like, because I like to be on time. Yes, yeah, you do, don't you? I like to be on time. I can't bear being late.

I don't, it makes my hat, gives me heart palpitations. And it's actually so good because Will hates being late. Oh, brilliant. I think even more than me. That's really good. So he gets us out the house.

Dan is the opposite. What, is he always late? Oh my God. Ben of my life. Tom used to be like that. Did it? Tom would be getting ready. like say if we're going to a party

he'd be getting ready like 10 minutes before the cab was due to arrive and then start stressing out that he hasn't got his wallet and hasn't got whatever it's like but you've decided to jump in the shower like 10 minutes before we were going to leave? What were you doing the hour prior to this? What have you been doing? What have you been doing?

Probably writing music. Yeah, when I tell Danny to hurry up he goes slower. Does he get annoyed if you tell him to hurry out? Oh yeah, yeah. I don't anymore. I'm just like, shall I meet you there? Yeah, because also if you like to be on time They don't understand how you feel.

Oh, how it makes you feel internally. Ours used to be the airport. Oh my God, yeah. Tom didn't understand, like, because obviously he travelled so much, why you'd want to be early to the airport. But my mum would say, but I like the whole experience going to the airport.

I don't get to do it a lot, so I want to do that. And he'd be like, well, you don't need that. You only need, you know, two hours before you went. And look how you've put Tom with a posh voice. Two hours. Two hours. Two hours, Diane, before.

Do you what I mean? Yeah, I'm an early, early to the airport. But I think where they've flown so much. Yeah, and also get taken to the airport and taken through security. And a bag pulled up. Yeah, and then they've got their tour manager going, right, come on boys, we need to get on the plane. Yeah. Not having to think, whereas we like to, well, we have to.

We like to. We have to think. So that's why there's a big difference. Right. So next one else. I packed it a healthy January lunch and my child came home starving. because they refuse to eat any of it. Oh, I'm fault, mate.

Not the parent, kid. Well, you have to starve then. It's just how stubborn they are. Like, we've started, I just said to the kids, you know, we're not going to, because I do think that Christmas, you know, even opening the calendar every day and having a chocolate.

They're being treated, left right and second. You know, there's a lot of treats. And I just said, look, you know, we're detoxing at the moment, we're doing all this stuff. And I'm going to try and make, I think I did speak about this. Did I speak about this at the beginning of the year?

Tell me and I'll tell you. Like making healthier snacks. Yeah, yeah. So she woke up this morning and I'd made cookies last night. She was just so happy. She's like, you've made cookies? So she's taking that in a snack. And even like when I pick up from school,

because they're going on to another activity, I'm like, I'm not bringing you rubbish on pickup. No, no. Like you're eating well, so they've accepted that for how long. But yeah, if your child's... But you've just made her a cookie. Yeah, but it's a healthy cookie. Oh, is you made?

Missed that out. You didn't say it was a healthy cookie. What's a homemade healthy cookie? It's not got process. It's not ultra-process, is it? I've done the process at home, myself. Well, I made it. So I know.

It's got what's got into it. No, it's full of sugar, actually. Well, yeah, but again, it's not like, there was a program on Channel 4 last night, and I just think I don't. Like, they were, it was a milkshake. And like, the man went, oh, is there actually any strawberries that go into it? I was like, no.

It's just, it's just, it's just, it. It's just a process. And so many cookies that you buy are just processed with crap. I, do you know what I'm trying to do with Coops is I think he's eating out of habit. Like, as in like, and boredom. So like when he's been at home. It's a dougher snack.

Yeah, it's like, can I have another snack? Can I have another snack? It got to the point. And I was like, you have to be hungry. Have to be full. Yeah. Like he has eaten. You're not.

You're just eating out of boredom. Like, this isn't like me being like, Like, he had, like, you know, a bowl of pasta and dessert. He had so much food. Like, I would have been sick. If you were eating that much food. Oh, my God, yeah. And sometimes they can, like, pack it away, though, and you think, where have you put that?

And fair. And, like, I do give him quite a lot of food because he is a really hungry boy, but there's got to come a point where he can't fit any more in, surely. It's too much food. I'd love to know, like, how much is too much for a kid. There must be some like... Yeah, but he might be growing. Well, he is.

So he needs that. He needs to make him grow. But when I say he is getting that, he is getting that and then some. Like, it is obscene. And also, what I've started doing, which I think has really helped, is when he goes, Mommy can I have a snack? I've gone, you can have a banana, strawberries or grapes. Don't want to talk about grapes after my wound from that grip.

But you can have those three. And if he genuinely is hungry, he will have one. one of those. If he's not, he'll go, I'm okay. Yeah, that's what you just could keep doing that. Giving him the healthy option. Yeah, that's what I started doing and he's, he's definitely changing. His tune ever so slightly. Yeah, it's like, oh, I'm not as angry now. Maybe I'm not that hungry. If I could have the packet of crisps. Yeah, I'm not hungry. Or the chocolate bar, then yeah, maybe I would want a snack. Yeah, I'm just, he's just bored. It's just, it's just. But it's 100%, I think when you have them off, that's all they say. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. Can I

have a snack? No. No. No. No. No. Because if I had a snack every time, I thought, I'm a bit bored. Might have a little snack. Be a bloody whale. I told my child off for being grumpy, but I was exactly the same. I've done that before. Yeah, but when you're grumpy and your child's grumpy and you just go out of each other, don't you?

Yeah. A bit. It's like that attraction, isn't it? The law of attraction. Yeah. That when you're negative, you're feeding them with negativities, then they're being negative batch. Oh, yeah.

It's like, have you ever woken up on a morning, like, in a really good mood? and then like say Will or Danny have come down in a really foul mood. Yeah, and you're like, you're actually just... And it instantly like changes you, changes your mood. We had that this morning. I said to him, you are being negative. And I'm not here for it. I'm being positive.

So you can go and take your negativity somewhere else because all you're going to fuel from me is negativity. Yeah. And we're probably going to have an argument. Yeah. So let's rethink. Well done, Kels. Well done.

Because it is. It is that law of attraction. And also I just think, you know, when you are putting negativity out of the universe, anything that's coming back to you is negative. I said to him, like, if you carry on in this path, the week's not going to be good for you. It's going to be a really negative week. He's maybe shedding his snake or whatever, you said. He just thinks, wow, how did I get, how did I find her?

Kelsey's told me that we're shedding the snake. Yeah, until the end of jam. The snake is being shed. And then what happens after the snakes? There's a horse, isn't it? Then you're going to go into the horse and you're going to be empowered. you're going to go for it. Oh, is that what the horse means?

Yeah. We're ready. Last year we were shedding everything that we didn't need. Okay. Shedding. I do feel like my skin is peeling off. I think shedding, learning. I think it was massively,

people might have not taken the steps forward that they needed to take last year. Right. They might, you might go, whoo, this year. Okay. That's what I'm hoping. That's what she's hoping. Well, Kells, that's a wrap on another episode. Come on, do it.

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