Mum's The Word! The Parenting Podcast - 'I'm Not Scared of Dying' Georgia Jones & Kelsey Parker Get DEEP on Old Souls, Fear & Why Kids Are Smarter Than We Think

Episode Date: May 3, 2026

This week on Mum's The Word, Georgia Jones and Kelsey Parker are back in the studio for a chaotic, hilarious and surprisingly deep catch-up.Georgia finally tells all about her half-marathon: from the safety-pin disaster at the start line, to the intimidating girls in the toilet queue who nearly knocked her confidence, to the emotional moment she ran the entire race alongside strangers raising money for a brain tumour charity.Kelsey then shares the details of this year's Tom Parker Foundation football match, back at Bromley FC on the 17th of May with an incredible celebrity line-up. She also opens up about expanding her charity work this year to support the Lily Mae Foundation and individual families in need.The conversation turns to fear, comparison culture and why social media is making us more fearful than ever, before taking a properly spiritual turn when Kelsey reveals she believes children choose their parents and that some kids are old souls. Georgia is… not entirely convinced.Plus, the Mum's The Word Top Five returns with the things that trigger us as mums, and the pair get real about iPads at restaurants, going back to basics, and why family dinners around the table matter more than ever. Grab a cuppa, get comfy, and join Georgia and Kelsey for another episode of Mum's The Word.A Create Podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, hello, we're back people with a brand new episode of Mum's the Word. Who are you? I'm George Jones. And I'm Josie Barker. She doesn't even know who she is today. It's one of those days, Kels. So today Kels tells us why we need to stop being afraid of fear, especially as parents. And Georgia tells us how her half-marathon went.

And then, I'll stop going on about it. She won't. Until the next time. It's my one achievement in life. Oh dear. You all right, Katz? Yeah, I'm good. How are you?

Well, you're not going to do so. Grab a cup. Sorry, we need to grab a cup, everybody. Grab a cup. Yeah, can't be. And let's jump in to a brand new episode of Mum's the Word. It's Monday. And George is just in a laughing mood.

I can see how this podcast is going. It's not going to go well, is it? Sometimes you start. talking, then you realise you're actually not a capable humour. You're like, who am I? I don't think I've really spoken this morning yet, but I'm from to my child. And as soon as I tired talking, then I was like, yeah,

I don't know whether I should be doing speaking today. How much wine you drunk over the weekend? A lot. It's rosé season, baby. It is now, isn't it? I know it is. The sun's out, the rosé with icing. It's terrible.

Honestly, the minute the sun's out, But all you want to do is sit in the sunshine and drink a nice cold. Oh, God, yeah. Oh, it really is. With a little play park outside. Yeah, so the kids can just go and do their thing. Actually, we had a very, very kid-heavy weekend. But it was actually quite nice because it just took Cooper then,

had, you know, friends to play with, yeah. I always have a kid-heavy weekend. Yeah, you're a kid-heavy weekend, every weekend. Yeah, every weekend. Yeah, every weekend, it's kid-heavy. So what's been happening? Well, Kel. I did my half marathon.

Yeah, how was that? Completed it, mate. Was it hard? Do you know what? It was fine. I was really nervous the morning of. It was bloody freezing. Like, it was like three degrees.

And I'd only trained in shorts. So I was like, I can't swap now and wear a pair of leggings. So I just went, like, wrapped up with my winter coat round me. Because we walked there. But also, you're going to get hot running, surely. Yeah, yeah, and I did. I did warm up. But then I hadn't put my, you know,

like your big number that you have attached to the front of you. I thought, oh, I'll put it on when I get there because I can't decide whether I want to keep my top on. I'll just run in my sports brab. It was bloody freezing, so I kept my top on. But because it was so cold, and I was so nervous. My hands were shaking, and I couldn't get the number on. The number on.

I couldn't pin it on with safety pins. So Danny was like, I'll do it. Stop panicking. I'll do it. did it and I went to put the top on and you'd say if you pin the whole thing together. And then I panicked because we were like, it was the start line. Then I missed bag drop and it was just all a bit of a panic when I first arrived and I was like, oh God.

She needs to do another one basically. Yeah, yeah. You've got to do another one to get head around. She knows how it works now. Yeah, I just didn't know what I was doing. I'm not very good with we not knowing. We are all scared with the unnine. Yeah.

But it was brilliant because as I was walking to the start line, you know, I'd say my best mates had made me a playlist for the run. So they'd said to them, make me a playlist of all the songs like you think will keep me going. And they've known me since I was like four. So honestly, every song that came on, I just cracked up laughing. I thought you was going to say cried. No, well, slash cried. It was a really, really emotional thing, actually.

Because there was that. And then as I got to the start line, there was a man next to me with, one leg. He had a running blade on. And then there's a woman behind me in a wheelchair and I was like if disabled people can do this. Yeah, what are you moaning about? What am I bloody moaning about?

What would Kelsey be saying? What would Kelsey be saying to me right now? Anyway, in the summer's shining, it was just got, it was just so, such a great atmosphere. And honestly, having like Cooper and Danny and some of my mates there cheering me on was just, it honestly made...

Well, Danny Bunked it and didn't do it, didn't it? I know. Spreading his bloody ankle, didn't he? But... Time that one. Well, didn't he? No. But, yeah, it was amazing

having them there supporting me. Like, it kept me going. Was Cooper proud or did he just being like, what's my mom making a big drama about? I do cross-country at school. What was she moaning for? He was really proud. He was.

And it was really nice for me to have something to make Cooper proud. Because it's always Danny. You know, it's always Danny on stage. Georgia, just your existing makes. Do you think so? Yeah, don't put yourself down like that. What, just because he's in a stupid little band? Who cares?

Yes, in a little band. What, stupid little band? Yeah, but also, like, you're comparing yourself to that. What, just because he goes on stage and does that, like, you do so much in the house and whatever else. Like, you do make him proud every day, and you're there. Yeah, I am, but I suppose they never see any, like, physical achievements. Because me on loading and loading the dishwasher every day.

But I tell you what? When he gets older, he will appreciate that. Well, I really hope so. He will 100%. He will go, God, my mum did so much for me. He will. Like we said, do you think about your mum now? Yeah, you do, don't you?

Yeah. But no, wait, it was nice. I totally agree with you, Kels, but it was nice to just have that, like, you could see he was so in awe of what I'd just done. And it made me feel good, which is probably quite selfish of me, but it made me feel good to know that he thought

I'd done something incredible. Yeah. And I had, well, it was incredible. Like, I'm really, really proud of myself. And yet, every time I ran past anyone's banner, any stranger that had something motivational on it, that was me, gone crying. You did be. That is, no, I tell you what, everyone, like you're saying, people running for all different charities, all different causes, all different reasons. And I just think it's like everyone, like, I think it's an energy thing.

Yeah, it is. Because the energy there is love. Everyone's like, love and happiness. and it just makes you like, oh. Yeah, that's what I felt on that day. You felt, yeah, it was such euphoric feeling. It was such, the atmosphere was just amazing. Oh, yeah.

And for our listeners, so I message Kels, I think it was on that same day. A message Kells, because it was so strange. Like, just by pure coincidence, the two people running in front of me were for brain tumour charity. Yeah. Which I just thought was, as soon as I thought,

I saw them, I was like, oh my God, how weird. And I thought, oh, they'll disappear off and whatever. You followed her to them all the time. We ran at the exact same speed the entire time. It was just me and the brain tune me a lot. Do you think you could do a marathon? No. Why?

I don't think I could. But a lot of people there would have been running, their training for the marathon. Yeah, yeah. And what was really hard at the beginning was when I was queuing up to go to the toilet before the run. There were these three girls in front of me, Worcestery girls could possibly have been in front of me, all talking about how this was an easy run. And on what speed you do it in?

And oh, I do it in this speed. No, this is just doing an easy run. This is just for fun. And I was literally being stood behind them like, what is it, the 5K over the park and whatever? The park runs. You're like, this is just a walk in the park for me. Children just say, they're like, ah, this is the worst thing.

Honestly, it really knocks my confidence. Did it? Yeah, standing behind them, hearing them talk like that. I was just a bit like, oh God, maybe I can't do this. Anyway, I did. But no. You are fit, though. I think you just doubt yourself and put yourself now.

I was doubting myself, definitely. And I'm not very good when I'm on my own either. If I'd have been with other people that I knew, my fear probably wouldn't be anywhere near as high, but I think when you're on your own, you get into your own mind, don't you? Get into your head. Yeah.

But I did it, and I'm happy. And I didn't lose any toenails. I felt all right the next few days. So, yeah, I was just really proud of myself. And I'd definitely do another one. I wouldn't do a marathon. I just... Just keep doing the halfs?

Yeah, I do it. Well, you haven't got the bug to go, oh, I feel like next year I'm going to put myself in the ballot? No, but I've got the bug to do another half. But, yeah, but I just don't think I want to run a marathon. Oh, do you not? No, I don't.

But next time... What about for charity, children? No, but the next half, I'll definitely do that for charity. Yeah, 100%. Talking of charity, I'm skipping along, but can we talk about Tom's... Yeah, so we are four years. Wow.

South fourth year. And we are back at Bromley FC. Yeah. And it's on the 17th of May. 17th of May. I've got amazing celebrity lineup. Jay McGuinness from the band, The Wanted. Yeah.

Is coming to present. He was like, I'm not playing football because he was like, but I will come. Oh, can you not play football? No, he's not. He's not the football type. And yeah, do you know what? Again, it's that place where there will just be so much love on the day. Yeah.

And it's really family friendly friendly. we obviously have bouncy castles. We have so much for the kids, face paint, hair braiding, everything we have going on for the kids. And then obviously we've got incredible people that are coming out to play. And this year, I'm working with the Lily Mae Foundation too for Stillborn, so I'm doing it for Phoenix as well.

So what's the brand tumour charity? So I'm doing ahead of the game, but also what I want to do this year is give individuals money as well. Oh, okay. So can everyone go out and buy a ticket? Even if you're not coming, can you please buy? You just buy tickets, Kelly.

You just buy tickets online. Online? Yeah. Is a link in your bio on Instagram? Or go on the Tom Parker Foundation and all the links are there. I'll put it in my bio now after this pod. I'll get it in my bio. But yeah, I'm doing the Linnae Mae Foundation, then ahead of the game that I work with.

But I do a lot. And like I said, my cousin is running the marathon next week for ahead of the game and his friend. So they're getting money that way. You know, it's just so hard when you work at charities to like equally give some. stuff out. Yeah. And I want to feel like I'm helping everyone. And then I want to give to individuals.

So obviously, as much money, the better. Amazing. Because it will go a long way. If I can just put into people's go-fund-mys, because so many people are in need. And can you give us any sneak peeks as to any of the guests that are confident? So I've got some Trader's stars. I've got some Married at First Site.

I've got Love Islanders. Great. I've got a hell of a lineup, hell. Yeah. No, we've got a lot of a lot of. lot of people and I think as well that a lot of my I still have originals that came and done the first one of me yeah I want to come back I love it yeah a lot of TikTok stars that you know they do play football but they're like nothing beats your match because obviously there is a lot of charity football

matches out there but I feel like with ours obviously I don't work with another company yeah one is funding this I do it all myself with my friend Lisa and we put everything in to this. Yeah. So I do feel like it is a really heartfelt one. Not the saying that the ones... No, no, but it means a lot to you. I mean, it's coming from an absolute experience.

But what I'm saying is we literally put the whole thing on. We message the footballers ourselves. We do everything. There's nothing... There's no bit that you are the behind the scenes. We are the behind the scenes, the everything. I know people like, how does she do that as well? But yeah, I love it and I'm passionate about it.

And I know that the money will help a lot of people. Oh, well done, curls. So if you live in Bromley or the outskirts of Bromley or anywhere near Bromley or you want to travel and meet some celebrities, come along on 17th of May. Yes. Because also Bromley is a really good commute if you're going into London. Coming from London.

So literally, Victoria, there's a fast train to Bromley South. She's giving us all the travel details. Oh, I might as well. Dom's going to be coming. Do you want to... Is Dom? Are you going, Dom? Yeah, John.

Hang on. Where was my invite? Don told me he's coming. Everyone's invited, Georgia. I would love for you to come down. I would love to call me. I mean, Danny's annoyingly. He's got the spraying ankle.

Oh, I know. He wouldn't play football anyway after he tore his Achilles. Oh, would he not. Achilles, not Achilles. No, he's too scared. Is he? What, do it anymore?

I know, it's a shame really. Yeah. What about, would you be a manager? Would you want to come and be a manager? He might. He might manage. He might be a call. Hey, Danny, you got the call up.

Do you want to be manager? Yeah, soccer had ruined it for Amy. Tor is. Oh, actually. That's not wary of Tauri's ACL, actually. However, Saul Campbell did break down his wrist or arm or something. What, when you're done a sock right? Yeah.

No. Nasty tackle. Oh. Yeah. Oh, controversial. Controversial. So, Kels, recently you talked online about fear not being there to stop you, but to show you where you need to grow.

Yeah. Tell me. Well, we all have that fear. Like you were saying, you stood in that line and listened to them girls and you got the fear. But you did do it. That could have easily made you turn around and go, I'm going to go home, I'm not going to do it because I'm scared. I mean, I gave it the big spuds, didn't I say?

I couldn't really turn around and not do it. Can you imagine if I came on the podcast? I was like, yeah, three young girls actually put me off. So I just didn't do it. I didn't do it. I turned around. Yeah. But I just think in life, we all have that fear.

And I think it's getting worse and worse because we look online so much. Yeah. You're so fearful about what everyone else is doing. And you hold yourself back. but you won't get to them the next place where you're meant to be if you let fear hold you back. Yeah, 100%. And also, do you feel like, I saw someone post recently,

like just go back to posting things like, just having fun. Just have fun with posting. You don't need to worry about what people are doing or saying or the trends. Just post a selfie if you want to post a selfie. Or post you having some food. Well, it is quite funny because, I went away in the Easter with some friends, and I went on a PR trip.

And obviously, the content they get is so different to me. Yeah, yeah. And they must have just been laughing because one morning, like, one of the younger girls, I won't say who it is, but she obviously set up, or can I say who it is? She can't talk about Roma. So Roma set up this, like, beautiful shot. She displayed right her hair. She was in their lovely outfit.

She looked incredible. And actually the content she got was amazing. But then there's me. I just got out of the shower, had wet hair, no makeup on, get the camera, and I go, right, guys, so, I got swimming, the hotel we're saying in is so nice. Obviously, going on about the hotel, to be fair, it was insane and incredible. I saw it. Is that the one you went on with Lydia?

Yeah. Oh, it looked ridiculous. It was unreal. So we stayed in a villa and then we got to go and use the actual hotel. The villa was part of the hotel, but I mean, for the kids, they had a trampoline park. They had a soft play. They had, like, everything, 11 pools, I think it had. Wow.

But it just made me laugh so much because obviously even how they like had planned their content and I was like, do I need to be doing that? Oh, I know. Comparison though, isn't it? Even to you, you plan your content way more than me. I just feel like I'm like... To a point. I mean, mine's always...

What you see is what you get with Kelsey. Well, it is with me as well though. Like I don't often go to town and like do a full face of makeup or blow dry my hair in preparation. Occasionally I will. But quite often I just got my comfies on. Yeah. But don't get me wrong, I actually do quite like dressing up and doing makeup sometimes.

Yes. So those bits I do like doing, but then I also like doing the bits where you are just natural and you are a mum and you've not bothered getting dressed today and you've not showered and you just... Real, real laughing around the house, doing washing. Like yesterday, I posted a picture of my washing line. I was like, happiness is.

Yeah, it is. It is. They're getting the washing on the line. But obviously their content works for them and it's amazing and I love it and like I wish I could be a bit more like that but realistically that's not me as a person but it's always that worry isn't it

and especially for us doing this as a living like you have to keep up with trends and keep up with keeping up with the Jones isn't it keeping up with the algorithm and that and I don't think people know what work actually goes into that to know you know the algorithm of Instagram and everything and

maybe it would be a happier world if we just went back to posting what we wanted to post. Yeah. But you can never do any right. It's like I really enjoy seeing everyone doing their like weekly roundups and just posting a selection of photos from things that have happened that week. But then I saw someone doing a, they did a whole reel on how annoying that was. And I was a bit like.

Yeah, but then they just want the clicks for that, don't you? Yeah. Oh, honestly. But the only reason people are doing the weekly roundup is because Carra says, work better. That's why. Oh, see, I don't do it because of that. I do it because I'm like,

I've got a load of photos and I just want to show everyone what my week was. So here we go. So if you are an influencer carousels and you get them describing, that's what works. Do you know what I can't cope with?

If you're singing them carousels because they want the money. I can't cope with all their clickbait things where they'll be like, my mum nearly killed me. And you're like, oh my God, what do you mean?

Your mum nearly killed you? Well, they didn't give you a cold. what? And it's really starting to annoy me because they're only saying things so that you click on there, on there. And it's extreme now. Life just extreme.

I wonder if it's going to come back down. I wonder if we're not going to be as extreme anymore. I don't know. Life is extreme at the moment, isn't it? I'm choosing to ignore. It is. It does feel heavy and extreme at the moment. That's the only way I can put it, I mean.

To tell you what isn't heavy and extreme, Kelsey's headband, which I'm not going to like Kelsey. slightly, it's making me go a bit dizzy. Does it look nice on camera though, Tom? Do I look really pretty today? Does she? I've just mixed it out because I've actually did a podcast before this,

so now I'm wearing this. What I've done is worn the same t-shirts seven days in a row recording the podcast. Guys, if you see me wearing this t-shirt a lot, I just forgot a war it last recording. Go back to the Instagram. Don't sweat the small stuff, who cares? Who cares? I think I've worn this the last three times.

Hey, who cares? Who cares? Keep it real. If I like a t-shirt, I like a t-shirt, and I'll wear it seven million times if I want to. Yeah, that's it. If you can keep wearing that headband, even though it's making me dizzy. I love the headband. Me and O'Rady has shared this. She likes this one too. Does she? I feel like that's like quite a bridal statement. Like, I will. Will if you're listening. If you're getting the hint, honey, you've got the headband on. Going back to fear, though, do you think we fear things more once you've had a kid?

Yeah, I do think our hormones actually change. But your fear does, but then I think when you're younger, you fear to actually make them big steps. For me, I wouldn't say I'm as fearful now because I've been through so much so I'm not actually that scared of anything. Are you scared of dying? Oh, I'm not scared of dying.

No. At all. No. Why are you scared to die? I don't want to. Well, you have signed to sell contracts. Coming into this world. Can I said that to me the other day?

What I said to him? And he went, well, I didn't choose to be born, mum. I was like, oh, that's cute. He did. That was deep. He chose you to be his parents. But you did. Well, he did, then.

Wasn't he? He just happened to be a strong swimmer, didn't he? That's all. Well, yeah, it was how you look it because I don't even think like that. I believe you choose your parents. Really? Yeah.

Kelts, you never fail to surprise me with things that come out of your mouth. Yeah. Right. I believe that you choose your parents on a soul level, yeah. Do you? Yeah. I believe my children chose me for a reason. Do you? Yeah. How, they're just a little bit of sperm in a... Well, you're not because you're a soul. So the soul comes in. So yeah, biologically, okay, the sperm forms the egg, but then at some point at 12 weeks, the soul enters the body. Really? Yeah. So you think kids are

old souls? Yeah, 100%. Do you? Yeah, what Oralia comes out with, I'm like, you have been here before. She's, yeah, she's lived lives before. The stuff she knows George, I'm like, there's no, I've not taught her it. There's just no doubt. Can we put a poll up on our Instagram please to see how many people think that children are old souls

and how many people think they're just... But listen, there's stuff of like children at five years old that tell, like, there's a little boy, there's a programme on Channel 4. I love it when she laughs at me. I'm not loving, I'm just... He goes back to Scotland and he goes back

to where he died in his last lifetime. He's like, I fell off that. And he talks about his parents and stuff because we lose this psychic ability when we are five years old. So children, like at that ages, they'll see spirit and they'll speak to spirit. Should we go back to her word

rather than the spiritual one interview? Well, picking your other side. I'm picking your parents, that's what we're talking about, yeah. I mean, I'd be so intrigued as to what the percentage of people think that you... Agreed with you on that. But picking your parents. Yeah.

No, you didn't say that though. What did you say to say if they've been here before? If they believe that they've picked the parents are whether it's the parents' choice to have the... No, that wasn't. You said that if the child was an old soul. That's the poll. An old soul, yeah. Or whether that's it.

They're fresh. They're brand new. Yeah. But I think you can tell with people that they've never been here before. So do you think some people haven't? Yeah, 100% have done. more life journeys than others. I can tell a new soul.

Can you? Yeah. Because they're so scared of the world. They are fearful. She can't have a new soul? I don't know. I don't mean you've been here that many times. I think she's got a lot of learning to take.

She's a virgin soul. I think maybe I could be at the end of my time coming back. Oh, Kells, that's quite depressing. No, I think, no, because then I'll... Where are you going to go there? I transcend and be someone else. I'll be like a guardian angel or something like. that.

Aw, that's cute. Because also, well, Georgia, this is like a whole deep conversation because I'm actually a reflector. What does that mean? On your human design. I'm here to reflect. Only 1% of the population are reflectors. What does that mean?

And you're looking at them. But I don't know what that means. So, we'll talk about this after the pod. I'll have to do, I'm going to do your human design. Let's see who Georgia is. I haven't got time today, but come sit down. Just send me your details. Nay.

Full now. Have we not got them? No, because I need to know what time you were born. Oh, right, got you. Do you know what time you were born? Yeah, I do, yeah. Six in the morning. Fantastic.

And the hospital you were born in it. And then I'll be able to do it all. Okay. Oh, that's exciting. We'll know what she is. Can't wait. Do you have an insatiable fascination with the paranormal? Are you ready to dive head first into the eerie realms of the unexplained?

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Yeah. So last time we were chatting about our top five kids snacks. Yeah. This time we're going to talk about what are our top five things that trigger us as mums. I mean, I've got loads. I mean, I'm ready. What do you find in triggering? Right.

So number one. when Cooper shouts in my ear really loud to the point where it makes my earring and I know he hasn't done it on purpose but I think I'm extra sensitive

because I've only got one ear but his so it just it like oh it gets me it does something like deep within my soul when he does it and he's always very...

Not your soul not talking about a soul not my soul let's not go back there no not my old soul not that my brand new one Your new song.

But yeah, that is just, oh God, I could scream when he screams. Do that not bother you? No. I mean, you have got a very loud child, so maybe you're just very used to it. I think I'm quite used to it, but yeah, it's that. It's just the loudness from Ray sometimes. I'm like, can you just bring it down a bit? Can you just tone it down?

Oh, like the screeching of certain noises. Another thing. Sorry, I'm just going to go. Here we go. Here we go. Cooper started doing this thing where he pretends to cry. Oh yeah. Not like as he like, he really wants me to think he's crying,

but he goes, oh. And I'm like, what are you? Stop here. Bodhi actually can squeeze tears out. He can squeeze the tears. He really, really cries. And then what's just? I actually said to me to say,

do you know what? I feel sorry for the girlfriend you get. I said because you, I spoke about his manipulation before. I was like, you are a manipulator. And the tears aren't working. So try something. Does he do it, like, really want you to think he's crying, though? Yeah, and wants me to feel sorry for him, but I'm like, but I know that you're faking it, so I don't feel sorry for you.

Which Coopers isn't that. And also, it's, if I've made a decision, that is the decision. I'm not going back on it anyway, so you can cry all you like. She runs a tight ship as hell. I'm not, I'm not going back on what I've said. No. Also, then you are a caver and Will does like to call me a caver. Does it?

Yeah. But I mean, also, honey, you pick your battles. I think you are the least caver that. I've ever met. No, he thinks I cave. He's more to my schedule than what I am to my schedule. He's like, no, this is what we do. This is what you've said, so do it.

Yes, to do it. So I think sometimes you need somebody that hasn't initially been in the parenting situation to give you an outsider's perspective sometimes. Because one of my best mates, her partner has kind of come into, you know, a situation. Not a situation. A situation. Not a situation. Come into the family.

So, you know, my mate's already got a child. And he'll say things like, oh, why is he doing that? Or why have you let him do that? And it's like, fair. Fair. But as mums, we don't see it sometimes. But I do think as mums, we are with the children all the time. But you've just got to stick to the boundaries that you're actually putting in place.

Because I think every time you move a boundary, they're just going to take the piss out of you even more. Yeah. And children are smart because they've been here before. They're so smart. So smart. No, but we underestimate children. They are so clever.

Oh, they are. So clever. They really are. They're just good at getting what they want. Another thing, sorry. I'm really, I'm on a roll. How many did it? Thought about this on the train journey in.

How triggering is? Kippa. No, I was thinking. Kuipa get a trigger in me right now. There can be that many things. And I'm like, oh no, there's quite a few, but it's more stuff that annoys me. It's not actually Cooper himself. So the other thing is, I've noticed it more recently because I've put it, oh, you won't like this

because I've put it on a few times now. And you would agree with me on this because, but it's putting sun cream on Cooper. And I hate putting suncream on myself. I hate putting it on Cooper. And he makes such a fath every single time I do it. And every single time I do it, I say to him, Cooper, I literally hate this as much as you hate this. Yeah.

If you just stay still, it will take five minutes rather than 15. And that really triggers me. Sun cream. Sand cream, wow. Especially if Sam's involved. Well, do you know what you need to stop? Put it on the sun cream on. Goal get me back in the day now.

I was going to say, we don't eat that headline again, Gels do it. Use the natural sun cream. He might appreciate that more. We're going to put this really thick sand cream on you. Yeah. What, the natural stuff? Yeah, the natural stuff is really thick.

Is there anything that triggers you? Just my children, I think all the above. I just think the normal stuff, kids are triggering. Like, and I think being a parent is so hard, but equally it's so rewarding. And they do stuff that triggers you, that you're like that they don't listen. Yeah. Especially when you're like, knackered. You're a tired parent.

You've been parenting, especially like in school holidays or something. like that and all it takes is for that mummy seven million times and then just just might be one mummy that's just a mummy too far but we are um we're doing i'm gone back to basics that's what I keep saying to the kids what does that mean if they if they say so right back to basics so like I've stripped it right back and you know maybe the stuff that as will said if I'm caving I'm not caving anymore we're going back to basics we're stripping it back and I this is what's happening. These are the rules in the house.

And if you don't abide by the rules in the house, there will be a consequence. Good. Yeah. Sometimes you strip it back. And like you said, especially after like half term, I think, and Easter break, they get so much,

especially Easter, Christmas, summer. They like, oh, no, last game, this, ah, that. It's just like endless of what they want, want, want, want, want, want, want. And now we live in a world where they get so much,

going out for loads of meals, getting loads of treats. We never did that. No. So if your parent gave you the look, you'd have that respect now. And that's why I just think it's an ongoing thing. I do think this is like a whole massive topic.

Maybe that we need to do on the pod. But, you know, now when you go out and eat, people want other people's children sat on tablets and not making noise and not doing whatever else. It's become the norm that that's okay. Yeah, yeah. But I saw another podcast, and they were talking about it saying that they think that is okay

putting the child on the iPad when they went out for a meal. But like, you don't. No, even when I went out with like Lydia, it was, we parent the same. So it was so nice going away with someone. Like we had all the blocks out for the kids and colouring and they just did loads when we and spoke to us and we did the highs and loads of the day and we all had a conversation. I think going out for a meal with your child is a privilege and that you need to make the most. Unless you go out every day and go and eat, like that's the time.

time where you all learn and you and especially dinner time and our house is really really important. We all sit round the table and we all speak at dinner. Do you all have dinner together at the same time? Yeah, see, we don't because Cooper has his tea when he gets home and then we don't have our dinner until like 8 o'clock because Cooper's fussy as well so he doesn't eat the same thing as us. So we don't all eat together. But I remember that was like such an important thing for me growing up. So I don't really know why I don't do it, to be honest with it. Bring it back. Yeah, we should just eat, I suppose, me and Danny should just eat earlier.

But also that might encourage him to actually eat some different food and taste the food. It might. But then also, as much as, yeah, I'd love that, in terms of timing, we, it's impossible a lot of the time. Because Danny will get back late. I'll get back late. Cooper will be starving. We won't fancy eating. Like there's so many factors.

And like, it's all well and good being like, yes, let's eat together every night. But sometimes it's just not doable. Yeah, but for me it is a priority. That's what I do actually prioritise because I think it's a really important time for the children. And, you know, we do loads of activities and we work and whatever else, but I do try and make that a priority.

You know, I'm not saying that that can happen all the time. Yeah. But if it's there, that's what we work towards to get the dinner on the table, that we can all sit or eat. And also I think because obviously like how old mine are now, we then clean, like we do the dinner, then it's bath and bed.

Yeah. And it's sort of like that's the day is then done as well. And they know that as like part of the routine. Yeah. That is Cooper's routine. It's just we don't eat with him. But I just think, you know, obviously with the like I think iPads are such a big thing. And I love.

Oh, superman. Nanny, do you remember? Oh, Jill Frost. She's come out with a whole big thing. Have you seen it? No, no. She's like, you know, you're giving the kids too much information now as well. Like by just sitting them on the iPads and that.

Like they're getting fed so much. information they don't know who they are already and they're getting fed all this information and it's even more confusing for the children because they're getting so much thrown at them and they don't know who they are and now we're going I just think yeah she's just I absolutely love her because it is that back to basis when she used to go into people's houses when you used to watch supernone and you'd go oh it's really simple what she's said to do it yeah yeah yeah it's actually what it worked yeah I think a lot of her thing used to be like routine didn't it It's routine and talking to your children.

Yeah, yeah. It's so important to talk to your kids. I mean, iPad, I mean, Cooper goes on his switch. I think for me, when we're out for dinner, sometimes, it's not all the time, but sometimes I just need five minutes to have an adult conversation. Yeah. And unless Cooper's on his switch,

we don't get any adult conversation. And for me, there's a fine line between sitting, having a conversation with Cooper and then... But what about just taking activities to do instead of the switch? Yeah, well, I do. But he wants us to do the activities with him. And we do, to a point, you know. There's only so many times you can play knots and crosses

where you know you're going to lose every single time because he goes first. And it'd be fun or hangman. And I love doing those things with him. But I also crave adult conversation. So it's kind of like a catch-22. But I do get it. I am with you, Kelse.

I just don't think I completely eradicate it personally. Just do it, Joost. Just eradicate it. We're, we're here. We're really talking today, aren't we? Anyway, that will ruffle a few feathers because obviously that is a big thing. But that's the thing, Kells.

And that's why... But it is like having the dummy. Just keep putting the dummy back in. It's like we don't want... Like sometimes children are there and they're only that small for that amount of time, And before you know, he's going to be 18 years old and he's going to be leaving the house.

Yeah. And I do, I do, yeah, and I do often think that to myself. But it is society. Yeah. It's the society we live in. We didn't, we didn't go out that much. You probably go out so much more than what you went out as a child. You went out probably on.

Oh, all this hat. Oh, you mean for food. For dinner? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You would go out for someone's birthday. We never went out for dinner. But would you go out on a celebration or would you get a takeaway? Because even getting a takeaway was a lot. when we were little, I think we very rarely went out anywhere. So then when you actually went out as a child, it was special, it was a privilege. So you would behave yourself. You'd say, like, oh my God, I want to do this again.

But now our kids get so much. Oh, Cooper's like, do we have to go to the pub? Yeah. He's like, oh, we're going to the Ivy again. Oh, well, he's like, Mom, do we have to go to the pub? I'm like, yeah, we're just going to nip there and get, because, Mommy can't be bothered cooking tonight. So let's go to the pub.

and he's like any and he and he, get a rosé, come on, come on, come on hooties, his rose season. And you can have a burger. But, yeah, because it's not a novelty. Yeah. It's not a novelty for him. So he thinks it's really boring where I was like,

God, if my mum and dad had just said that to me when I was ill. Let's go to the pub. Oh, my God, how exciting. I'm going to go to my best outfit and to go to the pub. Yeah. Yeah, it's so true. Anyway, after that judgment from both of us, let's do we listen.

How we go judge? Judge. No, we weren't judging. Okay, so first up, hid Easter eggs so well I couldn't find them. Now I've just got to hope the dog doesn't either. Oh God, well that's dangerous because dogs are... Yeah, they shouldn't eat chocolate. It's poisonous, isn't it, chocolate? Oh, that's so funny, but have you done that with birthday presents and that bought stuff and been like...

Yes. And put it away and then found it later and gone, oh my God, I bought this last Christmas. Or been like, I know I've put it somewhere, but I cannot for the life for me, remember where. but I do that with Easter eggs all the time. Whenever we do an Easter egg hunt, I leave, I put them, dot them around the garden and I've no idea whether they found them all. Well, honestly, where we did have the dog.

Yeah, oh yeah, you've got to be careful then. We had to wait, come down, feed the dog, sort the dog at and then do the stick. And also you would have had to have like really made sure you knew where every egg was. Yeah, and obviously we locked her away when we actually did it. Yeah, it's so funny, I wouldn't have even thought about that, but yeah, I found some just baking in the sun the other day.

I was like, oh, you miss them once. Yeah. I'm going to eat it. My kid asked where babies came from and I panicked, so I said Amazon. Now they think the postman's going to bring them a brother. Oh, no. That's cute, though. I mean, it's cute, but I remember speaking to a child therapist and she was like, I think it might be on this pod.

And she was like, always tell them like the truth. You don't have to go into the ins and outs of it, but you're just making a rod for your own back, really. Because it was about death. It was when Cooper got fearful about death. And yeah, it was that. I say that is my whole motto, though, is be truthful with your children.

Because if you're not truthful and they go and hear it from someone else, they are going to be so disappointed in you as a parent. Well, they lose their trust in you. weren't they really I'd be like well you didn't actually tell me the truth I mean but I had the questions when Moralia was about four years old of where babies came from

did you oh she she's been here before she's asked me well she should know yeah well she's been here before she does know she does know now yeah she's just hilarious do you ever look at your child and think I don't have the energy for this version of you today

all the time all the time going back to what are you in Even this morning it was like the first day back at school when my two decided to have a fight on the bed. I'm like, right. We've not got time for this today. Raylia, you've come in.

You've laid on your brother. He's got the, he's pushed her off the bed and you're just like, please. I'm like, can you just put your school uniform on? Because I don't need this. And I was like, I just need to get you to the school run on time today. I'm working. Mommy's working.

I've got to go back to work. So please, can we just do everything? They were like, okay. Oh, they just take so long to do everything. Putting a sock on. Putting a sock on. It takes forever. Whenever my girl asked for help with her homework,

I say, let me just finish this and then I Google the answers on the tab. In another tab on her laptop. I mean, there is nothing wrong with Googling answers for homework. We spoke about this last time, didn't we? What an adjective was. Track GPT all day long. It's my best friend. Don't put pressure of homework on yourself.

We've got enough going on in our. Just get a cheater. Is it just me who encourages their child to race their sibling just so they both run away for a bit? You tell me, else, I haven't got to. We do, where did we? Oh, we did go to watch Will's stepdad in his football match. Obviously, they got a little bit bored.

So they like to be timed. So we're like, right, you run to the tree and we'll time you and then you have to beat that person. Right. There's always a game in it, isn't there? Yeah, I mean, always. Sometimes. Just keeping them.

occupied. Yeah. Sometimes I'll do like a treasure hunt with Cooper. I'm like, right, I want you to go and find me a yellow petal, a green leaf and a twig. And then I'm like, go. Then I'm like, okay, that's giving me five minutes. It's giving me five minutes.

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