Mum's The Word! The Parenting Podcast - NAVIGATING RELATIONSHIPS AS MUMS & OUR CHRISTMAS PLANS!

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

In this fun and candid episode of Mum’s The Word, Georgia Jones and Kelsey Parker dive into some juicy topics!They chat about the differences between state and private schools, sharing their own exp...eriences and perspectives.The duo also discusses how to keep the spark alive in your relationship while juggling motherhood, plus their exciting plans for Christmas.As a bonus, they answer some of your listener questions, offering advice, laughs, and a little bit of mum wisdom along the way. Tune in for a warm, relatable, and lighthearted conversation full of great tips and festive cheer!A Create Podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 We're back people, welcome to a brand new episode of Mums the Word. I'm Georgia Jones. And I'm Kelsey Parker. And do we have an episode in store for you today? We chat about keeping your relationship bubbling while being a parent. Woohoo! Bubbling in what way?
Starting point is 00:00:50 Anger or? Me and Tom are kissing and she's going, no! Is she? No! Oh my gosh! So she clearly just doesn't want me kissing men. And our Christmas plans and traditions. The whole kitchen was taken up.
Starting point is 00:01:06 My mum lives next door to a church so we had to borrow tables from the church. Oh that's brilliant. And it was up, it was, like we literally just had tables for days. And as ever, we jump into your listener questions. Do you know what I find as well? Gonna be a bit brutal. Okay go on. I get some kids are shy. Yeah. Don't tell your kids they are a personality. So grab a cuppa, get comfy and let's jump into this brand new episode of Mums the Word. Right, Kel, so you've talked a little bit about this. Your kids go into private school now. They didn't used to, did they? No, they didn't used to. And then you move them across to private school.
Starting point is 00:01:47 She actually just was telling me that there's a different uniform from summer to winter. Yeah, so that was the boat was getting rocked this morning because Aurelia wasn't really keen on the winter uniform. And I was like, honey, you have to wear it. Honey. What is the tie and everything? Oh, no. Well, I mean, I mean, each their own. I couldn't think of anything worse than going to school in a tie.
Starting point is 00:02:06 When I was a kid, is it clip-on? Yeah, I've got just the elastic. But she's got to get over it. And she looks really smart and it's really cute. Does she wear a hat? No, she doesn't wear a hat. She doesn't wear a hat. Bit gutted if I'm honest.
Starting point is 00:02:19 No hat. So Cooper's in a private school, he's in a state school. But the thing is, and this is where I think there's like, people are like, ooh, he goes to private school. If the best schools and you can afford it and the other schools out that nice in your area, then why not? Like, I think you've got to do what's right
Starting point is 00:02:38 for you and your family. Like my sister's kids go to private school, my child doesn't. We've got a lovely, lovely state school down the road from us. And also, obviously even your area that you live in. Yeah, makes a difference. It makes a difference.
Starting point is 00:02:53 It makes a big difference. And the thing is for me as well, it wasn't anything to do with Aurelia. Aurelia could go to any school and she would fit in. It was more Bodhi. Yeah. He needs the nurturing and small classes. It was for him. It wasn't it wasn't for Aurelia.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah. Literally, I could send her. She could change schools each year and fit in and have the best time. Would she? Yeah. Oh my God, she's such a confident little person. She's so confident and she loves school. Yeah. Whereas I know with Bodie, he's always been very attached to me.
Starting point is 00:03:28 He likes going to this school now. He does three days, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, at nursery and he really enjoys it. He wears the uniform, he's in the same school as Aurelia. So it's just suited us more. And I think he needs nurturing. Yeah, and I wouldn he needs nurturing. Yeah. And I wouldn't rule out private school.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Like, I mean, I'm a tight northerner, so I love the fact that I don't have to pay for Cooper to go to school. It's all free. But I wouldn't rule it out. If we move to a certain area, or like when he gets into secondary school and you know. Yeah, you have to assess.
Starting point is 00:04:02 You have to assess. And Cooper's needs. If he had additional needs, you might look into going to a private school. The, you have to assess. You have to assess. And Cooper's needs, if he had additional needs, you might look into going to a private school. The classes are so much smaller. I mean, Aurelia has 18 children in her class. Yeah, and that's the thing as well. Like if you're wanting your kid
Starting point is 00:04:14 to have a bit more focused learning, because there's 30 kids in Cooper's class, like and there's quite a lot of classes in the year. So it's a big old school, but Cooper seems to be doing fine, like with his school work and everything. Oh my God, I forgot to tell you, my dad, it was actually a really good idea.
Starting point is 00:04:33 When he first sent the picture, I was like, hmm. But he'd basically got these little workbooks for when it was half a turn a while back, for the grandkids, the three of them, in their age range, and one was a maths one, one was an English one, and he just got them to do two pages of each one before they were allowed on their switches.
Starting point is 00:04:55 That's a great idea. It worked. All right, Dad. I know. All right, Granddad. Go on, Granddad. And they did not kick up a fuss. They sat there.
Starting point is 00:05:04 They almost- But it was someone else. Yeah, they almost quite enjoyed it. Like they actually found it quite good fun. And it was cute because like the eldest Joseph, who's very intelligent, would help the other two. And it was just cute. I thought it was a really good idea.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And I'm not the biggest fan of homework, just because I feel like by the time they've done a day at school, the poor kids are knackered. They come back home and the last thing they want to be doing is homework. But I thought this was a really- I feel like we've spoken about that a lot on my children. But that was a really nice way of doing it in the school holidays. Well, getting them learning.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And also like earning something, teaching them how to earn something. But my mom's always done that with us, not so much like you doing the work, but my mom's always rewarded us with money because she's like, why do you go to work to earn money? Like with our GCSEs, everything we've done, dance competition, she's like, if you do well, I'll pay you. Yeah, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:56 My mom and dad are exactly the same. I mean, it was never much. It was like, if we did the washing up when we were little, we'd get, I think it started off when we were really little at 20p. And we thought that was incredible. Inflation now, you probably got started like a fiver in your.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah, 10 pounds please, no less. What's the national wage? Minimum wage. And then it went up to, we could choose a magazine. A magazine. A magazine's down, you might as well get a Malkych out. Oh, I know, I know I know magazines are $5.99 It's crazy
Starting point is 00:06:29 It is disgusting. We must have paid like £2 for a magazine. Yeah if that and it would have a lip gloss on it as well or nail varnish No, it's actually cheap shit that just breaks right where I'm like why do you want that? You've got all these toys at home Why have we got to buy? Oh, buy it? But I actually saved the magazines. What for? For them to go back and look at. So I actually have like a magazine part like in my living room.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And they can get their magazines out and they can do the drawing and the word searches and stuff like that. Cause it's a waste. Oh yeah, cause Coupal won't even. Well they want the toy. They're buying it for the toy. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:04 We've actually got a new rule't, they want the toy. Yeah. They're buying it for the toy. Exactly. Kids now are doing that. We've actually got a new rule in the house at the moment. Go on. Because I was letting the kids go on the iPads in the morning, so when they wake up, they could go on their iPads before school, because my kids always do activities after school.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah. So then they wouldn't really get iPad time, not that they need it. Well, I've banned iPads now. Because I felt like they were waking up for the iPad. Ah, see what you mean? Because do you know what? We do that as well.
Starting point is 00:07:31 So Cooper has 15 minutes switch time before school. Yeah. Because that's the only time he's allowed on it. I don't let him on it. So does he wake up and he gets it straight away? He wakes up and he goes, like it's the first question he asks. And that's what mine were asking.
Starting point is 00:07:45 So we've made a new rule and they're not having them. And they can either get in bed with me and watch TV or we go downstairs. Did you go cold turkey or did you like wean the muffin? We went cold turkey. Bloody hell, Kels, that's pretty. Like this is the new rule. They were like, wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I think she means business. Do you know what? I think I might go a little slower with Coop because I think he'll be like, what have I done? What have I done to deserve this? But then again, I think also with iPads, then you try and get them off it. They're in foul mood.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Foul moods, that's the problem. I can't be dealing with it. Let's just get up, let's get dressed and get ready for school. Well, I said to Cooper, if there's an issue of you coming off it, when I ask you to come off it, this is when we stop doing it. We don't use that.
Starting point is 00:08:25 But they say they'll still go along with you, George, and then there still is a problem. And do you know what? It's lazy parenting on my behalf because obviously it gave me some time to actually lay in bed, maybe go back to sleep. Like, I've got to stop being a lazy parent. And I think we can get stuck in these ruts, can't we,
Starting point is 00:08:41 where you're just like, do you know what? It's convenient and it's easy. But sometimes as well it's helpful because like, so in the rats, can't we? Where you're just like, do you know what? It's convenient and it's easy. But sometimes as well it's helpful because like, so in the morning, that's my time to empty the dishwasher, put a load of washing on. So I'll be like, right, he'll do his teeth, get dressed for school.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And then I'm like, right, you go on your switch. And then I do all the morning housework. Yeah, cause why is it? Can't start my day if I don't empty that dishwasher And I had also a panic if I was in bed I wouldn't sleep that be if I knew Cooper was downstairs Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd just be wide awake. No mine would just go into their rooms and be on their iPad So yep, it's the new rule in our house and I will keep you all updated how we roll with this. Yeah, please do. And do you know what?
Starting point is 00:09:30 I'm gonna start. I might let them have it on a Sunday. Yeah, yeah, they've got to have some time with it. Otherwise, just kind of have a screen free life. I mean, unless that's what you want, Kels, you'll be living in a, what's it called, a commune. Yeah, actually that's a different story, Jo, for another day, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Have you got one about that? No, no, no. Oh. We might be getting one, Yeah, actually that's a different story job for another day We might be getting mom, but anyway, I'm not gonna talk about it cuz I'm not we don't know what's happening yet with oh Everyone's like oh my god You're not gonna start living off the land and going on maybe Are you out? No, you're not Cal stocks. Don't we can be friends then? We can you'll come to my house and I will grow you vegetables. You'll use electricity at you. Are you out? No, you're not, Kelstorks. I don't know if we can be friends then. We can, you'll come to my house and I will grow you vegetables. You'll use electricity and stuff, will you?
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yes. God, so hard. Anyway, I wouldn't be having a job if I didn't use electricity and have wife buying everything Kelstorks. Okay, fine, I mean, I can't wait. I'm not that hippie. No, you're not.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Just a little bit weird. No joking, you're not. So, next topic that we want to talk about is mental health in motherhood. I mean, I have probably had a couple of breakdowns on this podcast over the months. Haven't I? Over the months?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Haven't I? I'm a crier. It's good to show your emotions though. Yeah, and I think it's good to cry and let it out. Not that I do that regularly, but. But you know when, you know when it's in. It's bubbling in you. And someone goes, you all right? And you're like right yeah oh god oh no question he could have possibly asked
Starting point is 00:10:51 me right now my sister-in-law did it with me this morning I was like we were watching Moana last yeah yesterday and it was the bit where she comes back to see her family and Aurelia was like, mom don't look at me and I was like why? She was like don't look at me okay? Because she was gonna cry, she felt really emotional. I was like oh that is so cute. Remember as a kid when you was like can I cry? And then you looked at your mom and you're like why is my mom crying for?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Like why is she crying at this film? Oh I was sobbing at one the other day and my mom, you know, was a bit concerned. I was like, it was just really sad. And then you could see, he was like, I could see a little tear on his cheek. I was like, are you crying happy tears, darling? He was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:36 That's like, oh, god, fuck you. So funny when you see like an adult emotion like that in a kid, like crying at a film. Yeah, because they can relate to it,, because they can understand what they're feeling. So self-care is a big thing in parenting for me, definitely, is it for you? Yeah, what do you do for your self-care? I mean, a bath, like a bath, because I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:59 do you know what I need to start doing when I'm in the bath though? Is not scrolling on my phone. What, you got on your phone in the bath? Yep. Yep. Oh George my anxiety of dropping that phone. Oh really me I would drop my phone in the bar. You know one Christmas I dropped my phone down the toilet three times in Three times so I've got a new new phone and each time I got it. I dropped it back in the toilet again What's wrong with you? What you had in your back pocket? Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:12:23 Did it three times in a row. Honestly, by the end of it, I was just sad. I have got that upgrade thing that I can upgrade every three months though. Three months? Yeah. What? Do you need to?
Starting point is 00:12:34 It's like, well, you can get the latest phone. So I could now upgrade to the 16. I might do it. They're not, phones don't get upgrade. Phones aren't regenerated. What? What? What?
Starting point is 00:12:43 Phones aren't regenerating every two months. No, but I've just got the 15, so now I'm on, I could basically get the 16 if I wanted. I don't think they're ever any bloody different. When they're all fancy new camera, I'm like, well, this camera's shitter than the last one. Yeah, I feel like you need to actually learn how to use the camera to be any good.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Don't let that be mean to me now, shall we? No, not just you, me in general as well. Like I think people in general, like Emily that does my, helps me with my content, she makes everything look so good. I'm like, how have you done that? Some people are just really good at taking photos. But all her, I mean, she just looks insane on Instagram. She's...
Starting point is 00:13:19 Do you know what? I've just had a really good idea. Don't say it on here. It could be a business opportunity. I mean, I'm not going gonna do it myself, am I? Cause I don't invent phones, but the next person, the next phone that gets invented,
Starting point is 00:13:31 they need to install a like ring flash on it. Yeah. Like a built in ring flash. That comes up. Yeah. Or even if it's just round one of the lenses. Influences in the wild. Ha!
Starting point is 00:13:42 I love it. Do you ever look at influences in the world? Yeah, it. Do you ever look at influencers in the wild? Yeah, I love it so much. I look at it and I can relate to it sometimes. Do you know what's so funny now? Is that obviously Will has come into the world of influencing
Starting point is 00:13:58 so I'm like, can you get a good picture of me? And he's like, yeah I've got it. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I need a good picture of me, like you need to like get your angles in whatever else he's like oh yeah absolutely hate but you'd do it for them when you asked him to. No he wouldn't he would never want me to do it for him. Oh yeah he's not a social media person is he? But my friends have now got to the point where they're like oh we'll just get all the photos from you George and I'm like oh, that's a lot of pressure. Now I need to-
Starting point is 00:14:27 That was me the other day. Yeah, it was, you always do. Actually, Kelsey's one of them. I am one of them people. I went, George, just tag me in this. George, just send me all your content. Get the content for me. Was that a good accent?
Starting point is 00:14:39 George. George. Right, back to mental health. Yeah, so do you prioritize me time? Do you make sure you have it? I would like to say yes, but I'm absolutely terrible at prioritizing me time. Yeah, I'm good at talking about it.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I got my fat frozen the other day on my stomach and it was actually, I thought the appointment was gonna literally be half hour. And then I got there and she was like, okay, so I've got to do four parts. It's 40 minutes each part. So I was there for like, is that like two and a half hours? You don't need any fats for us in Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I know, but I wanted it. I had it. I love you for that though. I did it. Listen, if you want to freeze fat, you freeze fat. I really want to get my cellulite sorted and I'm pretty sure there's nothing you can do to sort cellulite, but I just really like to try. Yeah. See if it makes any form of difference. Yeah, I would like to get my cellulite sorted and I'm pretty sure there's nothing you can do to sort cellulite, but I'd just really like to try.
Starting point is 00:15:25 See if it makes any form of difference. Yeah, I would like to do that too. It got worse after you had a baby. Since I've had Cooper, my cellulite is something rotten now. Back of my legs are terrible. Oh, it's my ass. Oh my God, the other day, definitely TMI, I took a photo.
Starting point is 00:15:44 No, I could feel. was like I could feel a spot on my bum and I was like oh my god that is so painful I wanted to see if it had a head on it I know it was so sore. Did it have a head on it? Yes it did but I couldn't squeeze it because it was like in such an awkward position Did you get down into it when you got back? No, I did a hell, do you watch, I watched like that Dr. Pimple Popper. Yeah, I love it all. It's actually making my mouth water
Starting point is 00:16:09 just thinking about it. I love squeezing spots. Oh, me too. So the fact I couldn't squeeze this spot on my bum was torture. Anyway, what I did- And that's also the problem with me not talking to my brothers at the moment.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Do you want to squeeze their spots? Because they've got such good spots. I'm like, let me squeeze spots on your face. Like they're clearing up. I mean, telling everyone that your brother's a spotty probably isn't gonna help them talk to you. They're talking to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:31 But anyway, this spot on my arse, Kels, I thought, let me take this picture, but when I took the picture, I didn't realize my flash was on. I have never seen, my arse looked like a roadmap. There was that many veins on it. I was like, I did not know. Obviously you can't see your arse, can you? I had no idea that's what my ass looked like a road map. There was that many veins on it. I was like, I did not know.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Obviously you can't see your ass, can you? I had no idea that's what my bum looked like. So now I- Show me your bum now. Get your bum out, let me see. Possibly. So I want that to him. But we've had kids.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I was speaking about the stretch, like getting stretch marks on your stomach when pregnant. But it's like they're the beauty of carrying your children. I do think once you've had kids, you're a bit over it. You do get a bit over it. I guess for me as well, that what was quite hard was obviously losing Tom. Tom worshiped the ground that I walked on
Starting point is 00:17:15 and thought that I was absolutely amazing and couldn't do it any wrong. And I had the perfect body. Obviously I've not really got big boobs. He was like, your boobs are perfect. Loved him, yeah. Obviously I fed his kids with my breasts. And then it was him dying and being like,
Starting point is 00:17:30 oh my God, someone else has got to appreciate my body. But they haven't been through labor and watch me deliver children and they won't have that like. They've not seen why your body is the way your body is now. That you grew a human, so it might have stretched and your boobs might be saggy because you did feed children. Saggy, it's like one, I've got one tiny boob
Starting point is 00:17:52 and one massive boob now. Oh, you like little Nemo boobs? Yeah, no, but one's really like Nemo-y. I did a Copperfield challenge the other day and I was in a body, pink body, and I took my bra off. The whole thing was like, we're trying to get this new drug here that's only in Scotland and other countries and I don't know if it went yet anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:09 So I took the bra off and I was jumping around and I said to Kel, so I was like, did you see how one boob is so much bigger than the other? She went, no one else would notice but I did actually look and think, wow, one boob is really bigger than me. Oh god, I love it. Everyone's going to go on my Instagram and be like, yeah. I might get a little bit up there. I'm going to go have a look, but they're so wonky now
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah But people probably really love the fact that you posted you wonky boobs because because everyone's got one big bigger than the other This is self care now We've gone through one big than the other and spots on our and cellulite But I just don't think you can do anything about the cellulite unless you maybe there probably is stuff out there Yeah, I've got a friend who's had lipo on her legs and she was tiny anyway But I just don't think you can do anything about the cellulite unless you maybe. I don't think so. There probably is stuff out there. Yeah. I've got a friend who's had lipo on her legs
Starting point is 00:18:48 and she was tiny anyway. See I wouldn't have lipo. I quite like having thick thighs. I like a thigh. Yeah, thigh and a bum. Yeah. That's us, no boobs. Yeah, it is actually.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah. With thigh and bum girl. But do you know prioritizing me time, you say you're gonna do it, don't you? And I'm such an advocate and I always talk about how, you know, you've got to fill your cup up first before you can fill anyone else's up, because otherwise you can't.
Starting point is 00:19:10 La la la. Do I fill my cup up? Do eyeballs? No. No. This is my cup at the moment. If anyone's watching this, I can't even open it. It's empty, right?
Starting point is 00:19:20 It's empty. She's got nothing left. I've got nothing left. What's that from? Ian Bill. Ha ha ha. Love it, we're quoting EastEnders. So, any advice to new, not new mums,
Starting point is 00:19:37 just mums and parents. But then also, when you prioritize me time, me time could be going out having a drink, then you go out, have the drink, regret having the drink, because you've got the hangover and then you're back being a parent. So overall, just get on with it until they're 18
Starting point is 00:19:51 and don't mind. Kelsey's advice, just get on with it guys. Just get on with it. Just get on with it. Me there going, you've got to fill your cup up. Kelsey's there going, your life's over till they're 18. Just get on with it. Just get on with it. Roll with it, try your best.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Listen, when I cried earlier on, I did notice you didn't get up quickly and give me a hug like I did. We were recording a podcast, I can't care. I needed to cuddle. And also, I wouldn't wanna be cuddled. Like, if that was me, I'd just wanna be out there crying and left.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Don't touch me, don't look at me. I did touch you the other day, actually, didn't I, when you had a cry? No, and then I didn't know what to do. You go, what are you doing? I had a other day actually No, and then I didn't know what to do Can you put the cup down so I can actually help you no cuz I don't like cuddles I couldn't have forced this hug on Kelsey anymore. She had no option I was I had a vice like grip rounder and I will do it again
Starting point is 00:20:38 So you actually wanted me to cuddle you well for like this relationships going really bad. It's fine I know what you also can I just say that this cuddle and cry was from an episode like three weeks ago now. Yeah, yeah, it's not recently. She's not crying. She's bringing up the past. She can't bear the fact that she had to cry. She's like, don't talk about children.
Starting point is 00:20:55 My empathy is really bad. Did you have, obviously like, you know, when you had the babies, the kids, there was everything going on with Tom, but do you feel like you suffered with any like postpartum depression or? I honestly didn't have the babies, the kids. There was everything going on with Tom, but did you feel like you suffered with any like postpartum depression? I honestly didn't have the time. And I think with Aurelia where I had the preeclampsia,
Starting point is 00:21:11 again, I had a point to prove I'm fine. No one touched me, no one talked to me, I'm fine. No, I was gray, I was really ill. I was- Did you say you were gray? I was gray. Oh, you were gray, oh gosh. What did you say, gray?
Starting point is 00:21:23 Did you think I was gray? I thought you meant I was gray. I was gray. No, I wasn't gray. You were gray. I was far from gray. Oh, gosh. What did you say? Great. I was great. I was great. I wasn't great. You were gray. I was far from great. I was gray. And I just, again, I don't like fuss. It was like, get on with it. So I probably didn't have time. If anything, you know, I've spoken about it in the past, it was more probably Tom that had the postpartum anxiety, not me. He was just obsessed. Tom was very obsessed with whatever he was doing. It's like that hyper focus. He wasn't breastfeeding, but he was a parent now.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And then actually- He was a bit of a helicopter parent before actually- Yeah, and then when he actually took a step back, I was like, I can breathe and I can get on with this. And I got the routine and he was a great help. But obviously with Bodie, there was no time for the depression and the anxiety. It was, we were fight or flight.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And that was it. My friend at the moment is really suffering with the postpartum anxiety. And I was really trying to help her, but I think obviously you'll understand this, that they don't, you don't want to hear what other people have got to say, like until the moment that she's gonna have that light bulb
Starting point is 00:22:28 and go, okay, I'll listen now. That was a moment that I said to her, the baby's breathing, the baby's alive, the baby's well, you're doing a great job. You're doing a good job, yeah. There's nothing more you can do. I know you feel anxious, but you're doing a great job. But she literally was like, I'm not doing a great job.
Starting point is 00:22:45 You don't hear it when you're in that pit, when you're down that dark path. Yeah. Nothing anyone says pulls you out. And it's like when people say, you've got to ask for help. Like people said to me, George, you can't do it all yourself. You've got to ask for help. I was like, yeah, I will, I will.
Starting point is 00:23:02 And I didn't ask for help until it was probably too late and I got past the point of asking for help. And now I do. Now I'm more vocal. Like I messaged my girls. I wasn't choking up then. Are you gonna sneeze? That's so funny, because I got a tickle.
Starting point is 00:23:18 What was that? What does that mean? I got a tickle in my throat at the same time. Because you're gonna speak the truth. You're speaking your truth. That's it. But I've just messaged my girls recently and said, I'm just having a bit of a struggle at the moment. I'm just finding everything a bit overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'm just not, my sparkle is not sparkling. And they were amazing. See you're great at doing that, whereas I- Do you retract? I wouldn't tell anyone. You wouldn't? I just like get on with it Kelsey. Oh Kelsey, yeah but you probably, If you're at a point in life when you're ready to lead with purpose, we can get you there. The University of Victoria's MBA in Sustainable Innovation is not like other MBA programs.
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Starting point is 00:25:12 Yeah, so what did your friends say? That's so good that you can do that, George. They were amazing, they were like, Georgia, don't do too much. You don't have to say yes to everyone and you don't have to keep everyone happy. And I was like, I know, but I like to. I'm a people pleaser. And you like going out and you don't have to keep everyone happy. And I was like, I know but I like to, I'm a people pleaser.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And you like going out and you like doing things but it's the same, I find it so hard and if you're saying yes you're doing it. Yeah, exactly and I hate like, I hate canceling on people as well. But like my girls say, they're like, but if those people really love you and they care about you.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Then they'll understand. They'll understand, they won't want you to push yourself to. But you still feel like they'll bitch about you behind your back. They'll understand. They'll understand. They won't want you to push yourself to. But you still feel like they'll bitch about you behind your back. I actually don't. Not my best friends. I don't.
Starting point is 00:25:50 No. Which is a really great place to be in cause to know that. But they're my girls from being a kid. They're my day one girls you know. They're my day one girls pretty much yeah. So no. And if they want to bitch about me then they can't.
Starting point is 00:26:04 No they wouldn't. They wouldn't. never you are you bitching about me? In a different separate whatsapp group. That's cool. Yeah, this one hasn't got children Imagine if there was a separate whatsapp group like they're great Separate what that I mean that I know a lot not including Georgia Jones. There's a lot of people I know that's happened to really yeah, that must be so awful when that happens just get rid of those if people do that cuz I'd love it. I'd love it if they were all slacking me off She thinks you would you would know I'd be absolutely devastated I can't even take the criticism online I can I can I can you can just about just about Now you've got no you've got will yeah Now Will's there to help you with it all.
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Starting point is 00:28:04 before it doesn't, isn't fresh anymore? Yeah, when does the honeymoon period? I reckon you've got a few years. Yeah, I reckon it's all fresh, like still fresh, how long before it isn't fresh anymore? Yeah, when does the honeymoon period? Yeah, I reckon you've got a few years. Yeah, I reckon a couple years. And then it kinda, and then it's not, it's like, ooh. It's quite funny with the kids though, because they hate us kissing. Do they?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Aurelia really hates us kissing, but I actually found a video, well, I didn't find a video so my tick tock of me and Tom kissing when she must be like a year old Yeah, or like 15 months. Yeah, no 50 because body's a baby. Yes. She's about 16 months and Me and Tom are kissing and she's going no Just doesn't want me kissing men So yeah, is it you know, it's my spirit animal. Yeah, she's just hilarious She's great. She's great. Oh, well, she keeps you in check then Paul. We'll look at it's like water No, but then we found that video and he was really laughing. He was like, she's always been like it
Starting point is 00:29:02 He's like least it's not just a me thing, she felt that way with her dad too. That's actually quite nice for him to know that it isn't just him. It's not just him. And she's not just getting upset because it's a new, well not a new man, but a different man. Yeah, her head daddy.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah, her mum's boyfriend. But do you know what, I just think the kids absolutely adore him and I think it's really lovely for the kids to actually see love as well. Yeah, yeah, and to know, understand what it is and have like a loving family around them. Because it's just literally been me for as long as they probably can remember. I don't know what their memories, especially Bodie, he's probably never really even seen me.
Starting point is 00:29:42 With Tom being as what me and Tom were like when we were, like you know, when we got married and stuff like that. Not what I was gonna say, when we were really in love, but obviously just completely different. The roles reversed, I became his carer, and you know, Bodie's whole life was me caring for Tom. And obviously I would kiss him and cuddle him and do whatever, but they probably can't remember that,
Starting point is 00:30:03 the kids. If you think, what did we remember? What's your earliest childhood memory? My friend Gemma, makeup artist and best friend, she said she's actually got memories from like, like three to five, I'm like, have you? I don't, she remembered meeting me at school, I was like, I'm really sorry, but I don't remember meeting you.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Oh no, see. Do you remember reception at school? Yeah, I remember reception, I do remember, obviously not like, I'm really sorry, but I don't remember meeting you. Do you remember reception at school? Yeah, I remember reception. I do remember, like, obviously not like, it's clear as day, but there are things I remember. But can you only remember videos that you've seen? No, no. Well, you can't actually remember.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. Right, okay, let me go back. I can remember me being Mary in the Nativity play at nursery. Oh, see, so you do have a few memories. So I'm just bragging that I was Mary. Oh she doesn't remember, she just wanted to let us all know that she had a leading role when she was in reception. Wow, how's acting career gone for you? I'm here doing the podcast,
Starting point is 00:30:55 not even acting anymore. She's not, she's not. I'm getting back into acting alright Jones. Listen, he sends us if you'd like her. Get it out my pub, alright. Oh you'd be great, you could be in the next class later. Who is it? No, Peggy Mitchell. Peg it. Get out my pub, alright? You'd be great. You could be the next class later. Who is it? No, Peggy Mitchell. Oh my God. Peggy. Get out my pub. Let's petition for Kelz to be the next Peggy Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Yeah. You'd be great. Well good, I'm glad it's, you know, still lovely and fresh in your relationship. I feel like that's like a bit of envy and hate. No, no, no, no, no, listen. No envy and hate over here. Only love no, no, listen. No envy and hate over here. Only love, only love, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Only love. So, Christmas, are you spending Christmas with Will? We've actually not spoken about Christmas. He's the most laid back person. He might as well be horizontal. Is he super close with his family? He's really close with his family. So that's so lovely because you know.
Starting point is 00:31:41 You know about the village. Everyone knows about the village. So his family almost mirror my family, which is lovely. But do you not find it quite, are you not worried? Cause I always find this quite difficult cause that's the same thing with Danny and his family. Danny's really close with his family and I'm really close with mine, but it's always tricky.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Cause we are both so close. I remember I had an ex-boyfriend who wasn't really that asked about his parents, which I didn't like, but also it made it really easy at Christmas. Cause I was like, oh, we'll just go to my home and dance. I haven't actually thought about this
Starting point is 00:32:10 and now you're bringing it up. Yeah, sorry. You're gonna have to have this conversation soon. But to be fair, do you know what as well? I hate Christmas. Oh, why? I feel like I've just hated it since Tom died. I just, just the buzz.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Maybe Will can change this for you. I just think, I love it for the kids. But I just think it's just so overrated. You need to rewrite that story. You're on the treadmill. The lead up is great, but then. Do you know, it's the pressure. Baa!
Starting point is 00:32:41 Sorry, didn't realize screws had come into the air. God, I repaint myself on an awful night today. Don't you know? It's normally pressure. Bah, I'm bah. I'm sorry, didn't realize screws had come into the air. God, I repacked myself on an awful night today. Don't you know? It's normally me, so. I'm really glad you've taken the role today. I'm normally more you up. And do you know what? It's just with the kids.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yeah. It's just a lot, isn't it? Like we're talking about I'm being brats. It then becomes the brat show. Yeah, it does. And I just want them to be happy with just having one present. One present.
Starting point is 00:33:04 But they open them so quickly as well and you're like just just Appreciate that one present first and then you can move on to the next no rush I bought her a Barbie dream house about like probably two years ago. She's never played Oh, they're never actually turned around she was on FaceTime to Kelsey the other day and went Oh Kelsey, that's my Barbie dream house. I just have no time to play with it. She is, she's old before. Yeah and I was like and that's the reason why I don't want to spend loads of money on getting you because you know what she actually likes to do? Listen to music, dance, sing on a microphone and watch films, musicals. Why don't you get her a record player? She's got
Starting point is 00:33:41 one. Oh she's got one. She got gifted one by Kidz Bop. So did Cooper. He loves it though. It's a shy kid. Yeah, ours is out at the moment. Oh yeah, because we went to Kidz Bop at the same time, didn't we? So again, and then she's got the Kidz Bop microphone. She actually, they need nothing.
Starting point is 00:33:56 They need nothing. Like she's- He was going through his little poor patrols that he's not got, but he's got the, at least got a lot of poor patrols, but he's like, mom, if not got the submarine zoomer. I can't say that word, fun fact, subramine.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Sub, submarine. Subramine. I can't say that word. Fun fact. Fun fact of the day. Oh my God, maybe every podcast we should do fun facts of the day. Man, it's just gonna be words I really can't pronounce.
Starting point is 00:34:22 What about you? I don't fully know. I think it's gonna be just a lot of family. A lot of family everywhere. How do you? Well, Danny's family are pretty chill. Well, actually both our family are very chill, but then we've also got my sister.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And so we've got to throw that into the mix. We've got, and there's a lot of us. So it's fitting us all into one house. Do you all fit into one house? Have you ever done it where it's Danny's family, your family? No, us, so it's fitting us all into one house. Do you all fit into one house? Have you ever done it where it's Danny's family, your family? No, no, I think that would be. We did that one year at my mom's house
Starting point is 00:34:50 and it was so funny, the whole kitchen was taken up. My mom lives next door to a church, so we had to borrow tables from the church. Oh, that's brilliant. And it was like, we literally just had tables for days. It's funny though, because I love the idea, but also the idea petrifies me at the same time. Like it's just a lot of families together, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:35:10 It's a lot. Different traditions for different people. Different, like different personalities, everything. I mean- Some people might just be about the food. Some people might be about the drink. Yeah, I mean. I know what you're about.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I don't know what you mean. I don't know what you're talking about. But yeah, we'll see. I mean, Cooper, I mean, he might not this year, but every year it's always been like, he's been obsessed with the boxes that stuff come in. I'm like, turn it inside out. You can color on it and make yourself a car.
Starting point is 00:35:36 So. Why don't you just buy him that? I might just buy him. Because you can actually get them. Yeah, we always get them for camping. We always get a cardboard box. So this year they made a shop and they were selling like fruit. Yeah, I said in fruit at the shop I think that's a good idea
Starting point is 00:35:50 We actually went last year Sure where we went and it was bougie, but it was oh it was the one of the best experiences ever went to The UK Lapland. Oh, yeah, how was that? It was we've never been it was So much better than I expected Like it was really magical How many times a Cooper see Father Christmas last year? A Rayleigh and Bodie thought they were actually related to him They saw him so many times I'm limited. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it We'd like we're going to Hamleys
Starting point is 00:36:24 Magical and then Did you not do it? Did you not do it? We're going to Hamley's. That would be magical. And then there's a really amazing 5th Christmas that comes to your house. So I might have him to my house and that is it. Has he got a real beard? He's amazing. Honestly, he actually is. I believe that he was 5th Christmas.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Oh, I love you for that. He was in my Instagram last year. Santa tell me. Never. me if you're really here. She's just trying to launch a singing career as well. Acting and singing God I really need a job. If there's any acting. And now musical theater. Don't please get me a job.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I can't do this podcast. What are you quitting? Oh my gosh, exclusive. I've left. She's left, she's gone. Why don't, I'll tell you what you can do. You can do our- What did you say then?
Starting point is 00:37:10 I said, I'll tell you what you can do. What was that, Northern? Got an idea? Do you sound Northern then? Oh my god, that was so Northern, I didn't actually catch the word that you said before that. I went, right, I'll tell you what you can do.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Right, that's what I'm gonna do. Is that what you sounded like? Oh no, god, oh god. You can sing our theme tune. Why don't you write and sing our theme tune? Write the theme tune. Sing the theme tune. That's what I feel like I do with you anyway.
Starting point is 00:37:35 We can have a theme tune. Right, we're really going. Right, this time, next time that me and Kelsey are together recording, if you haven't brought a theme tune to the mix. I'm gonna ring Danny. We can co-write one together. No, I want it to be all your work And I'm not claiming I'm a songwriter though am I? Actress, you know Sorry the music video as well
Starting point is 00:37:59 Comedian podcaster right we're running out of time. We haven't done our listeners questions, right? Let's go on talking about your CV and go on to our listeners questions. Don't sir, get me on strictly. You'd be good on the strictly actually. So Mandy, my four year old is too shy to talk to the other kids at nursery. Any advice please? Do you know, I actually do have a bit of advice on that because I totally understand it because one of Cooper's really good friends
Starting point is 00:38:25 at school was quite shy, play dates. Get them like socializing with those friends separately just on a like a one-on-one basis at home in their safe place. And then it'll just build up their confidence a bit. Do you know what I find as well? Gonna be a bit brutal. Okay, go on.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I get some kids are shy. Yeah. Don't tell your kids they are a personality. Oh yeah. Because they can't, when we were at the performing arts school, people turn up and they'll go, oh, they're really shy, they're really this,
Starting point is 00:38:57 you're telling them what they are, they're really naughty, they're really angry. Like, try not to tell your shy child that they are shy. That's really good advice actually, Kale. Because Bodhi is, but I've tried everything not to say that in front of him. Because it's feeding, he will feed on that then and be like, oh, I'm really shy,
Starting point is 00:39:19 my mom knows I'm really shy, I'm really shy. It's so true though, because I will. Because you're actually, I know we say about labeling, but you are actually then labeling them. You are, completely. Well, even when I say Aurelia's next level, oh, she's this. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I try not to do that in front of her. Yeah, and it's like putting people down on telly, you know, like say if you see someone, you're like, oh, that's an awful outfit they've got on. I do check myself now, not that I bitch all the time, but you know, sometimes someone will have a hideous outfit on and you'd be like That does not look good And I've stopped myself doing it now in front of Cooper because I don't want him to see me doing that
Starting point is 00:39:53 I once saw an advert for it and I was like oh my god. Yeah, it's so true. That's how you that's how you make bullies That is how bullies arrive. You've got nothing I say don't say That's not abouties arrive. You've got nothing nice to say, don't say anything to them. Don't say it, don't say it. That's not about your kid being shy, but I try not to tell your child that they are shy. You're confident, you've got this. It's that affirmation, feed them with positivity. You're gonna go to school today, you're gonna talk to everyone,
Starting point is 00:40:16 you're gonna make loads of friends, it's gonna be great. Yeah, yeah, get them to start believing in themselves. The more often you tell them, hopefully it'll then just stick in their little brains. Right, what have we got next? Any advice for going from one to two kids? I'll have a two and a half year age gap and I'm slightly scared.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Don't do it, no joking, joking, joking. I think you've done a really nice age gap as well, two and a half years. Yeah, I don't think the age gap matters because they're different age kids always gonna bring something different to the mix. Different personalities as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:51 But I think two and a half, you can actually get them doing little jobs for you as well. Go and get the nappies for mommy, go and get that. And you know what, I just think I've got so many friends now that have got the two, the three, and everyone looks at it so differently. Like some are like, I think going from having none to one was really hard.
Starting point is 00:41:12 But then some of my friends are like from one to two. Yeah, yeah. No one ever says it about the third child, do they? No, because I think when you're having the third, they're just rolling with it. They just roll with it, yeah. They're digging out in the mud. They're only six months.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Oh, they'll be fat. They'll be fine. They're eating worms. They're fine. Don't worry about it. They're getting bit by a spider I used to eat worms when I was a little girl. Oh, no, I didn't eat them. I kissed them That's what you do kiss them. No animal cruelty. Oh, yeah, I don't think really and also Don't be scared if you want to do it if you know, you want Don't it before you know know you want a second kid, you've done it before, you know you want a second kid, yeah it might be a bit tricky at the beginning because you've got to go back to that newborn stage.
Starting point is 00:41:51 But if you've made that decision, you just go for it. But now you've got the two and a half year old as well, it's like, what's a newborn? Yeah, exactly, yeah, two and a half year old compared. And again, they're always at different stages at different times. Mine have just like gone through phases. Bodie was a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Now Aurelia's an emotional wreck. They just. They go through their phases. It's like at the moment, Coop has definitely got having some kind of developmental leap. And I put it out on social media and everyone was like, yeah, they do it at that age.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I was like. What do you mean? Tell me, tell me. Explain to me. He's just become really, really headstrong and opinionated and questions everything I say. So if I was like, that cup's green, he'd go, well, actually, mummy, it's green and cream.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And I'd be like, well, yeah, I know, but I'm just saying. He's like, well, you're wrong. I'm like, oh my God, you don't have to argue the toss with everything I'm saying, Cooper. It's just, shh. Anyway, so yeah, apparently they go through that saying, Cooper. It's just, shh. Anyway, so yeah, apparently they go through that stage, they're kind of just pushing their boundaries. So good luck for that one, Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Last question. Kit, what are your experiences with dealing with child illnesses? What's the worst one? What's the worst one I've had with kids? Sickness bug. Oh God. Don't you, when they're laying in bed
Starting point is 00:43:05 and you hear the cough and you're like, it's gonna be that night, they're gonna be up throwing up all night. And why is it always at night? Always at night. And then they seem to like, it seems to bounce back. And you're like, you can put it on to school.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Do you know sickness? And spread it to everyone else. Yeah, sickness is the worst for me. Like I've not got that phobia, that sickness phobia, but I don't like sick. I can do everything, I can do poo, any bodily fluid other than sick. It just makes me want to throw up.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And also it's just a mess, isn't it? Oh, you've got to change everything. And especially when it's at night, it just seems a million times worse. And you're so tired. Oh, you're so tired. The only thing I will say is the experience gets slightly better the older they get
Starting point is 00:43:49 because you can put a bowl in their bed and they also know. To get to the toilet. I think it's worse when they're babies. When they're babies and toddlers. And they have no idea. It's worse, no, I would say the worst is when they're toddlers eating solids
Starting point is 00:44:00 but don't understand that they can be sick into a bowl. Yeah. Or a toilet. Yeah, So it's like solid. Or a toilet. Yeah, this is probably, we should probably put a warning with this little section. Yeah. Cause it probably makes, actually making me feel a bit
Starting point is 00:44:10 crazy, let's stop. It wants to say what, um. Go on Kels, go on, what do you want to say about homeopathy? I love homeopathy. If you don't know about it, research it, it's incredible. So I treat my kids at home myself and I have a box and if they're poorly, like wherever we go, if we go on holiday, I take the kit with me
Starting point is 00:44:29 and I can always deal with an illness or an accident or something unless their leg falls off or they cut their head open. Can I ask a question? Would you give your kids antibiotics? No. Oh, you'd hit me right now because I'm currently on a course of antibiotics.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Who you are? Yeah. Why? For my nose. It's the only thing that will get rid of it though. Me and Kelsey have different views on that side of things, but it doesn't make me like her any less. I'm just like, well, if that's what Kelsey wants to think.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Kelsey thinks I'm not. And also, mine is a new path that I, as a kid I was on antibiotics and I was never on this path. And if you asked me five years ago You know I was a different person. I've had to I've had my eyes open to the world and and now I can see that There is more out there So if I can treat them myself, yeah, I will yeah, you'll try yeah
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