Mum's The Word! The Parenting Podcast - 'Why Are Women Called Geriatric at 35?!' Georgia Jones & Kelsey Parker On The Double Standards Around Older Mums

Episode Date: May 31, 2026

Georgia's been to Ibiza for "work," back to her mum's for buttery toast and zero phone signal, and left Cooper twice in one week, after he begged her not to go.Kelsey reveals a secret brother nobody knew about, and the pair get into it over why Sienna Miller gets called "irresponsible" at 41 but Robert De Niro gets a free pass at 80.This episode covers the big stuff:Geriatric pregnancy labelsThe double standards older mums face, perimenopause chat, and why women are judged no matter what they doPlus the everyday chaos: kids who eat everything at school but "get the ick" about your dinner, eco homework ordered off Amazon, and watching Bluey alone with zero shame.They also rank the top five things they miss about life before kids. Spoiler: freedom, sleep, and adults-only hotels make the cut.Grab a cuppa and get comfy. This one's a good one.A Create Podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, hello, we're back people. Welcome to a brand new episode of Mum's the Word. I'm Georgia Jones. And I'm Kelsey Parker. Today we chat about wanting time away, yet always missing our kids when we do. And how is having kids at an older age really seen by mums? So grab a cup of. Get comfy.

And let's jump into a brand new episode of Mums the Word. What are you doing? I feel like you put it out to the universe. yesterday. Julja said that her train was cancelled, but it wasn't cancelled. Well, it was cancelled. So then when I went to it on the train, my train was actually cancelled. I think, Kelsey, what you'll find is the train system was just a bit screwed. It wasn't my fault. No, I feel like it was Joach. She put it out there. Hey, do you know what, though, Kelsey, you'll like this. Last night, I had a dream about someone that I've not seen in a really long time.

And then this morning, I went on my Instagram and they popped up on it. Isn't that weird? It's a law of attraction. Yeah, but it wasn't a good dream. I woke myself up calling. I woke myself up going, bitch. What was you dreaming about? I was dreaming about somebody that, like an old friend that wasn't very nice to another friend, nothing to do with me, but basically those two went off with each other and left me on my own. And I was really upset. I wonder what that means.

I've been really supportive. This is what I said to Will. I mean, he must literally think I'm nuts. I was like, you don't understand. I get, I'm so tired. Like, I do all this during the day. And then at night I journey so much. And he was like, what?

I was like, in my dreams, I journey. I go to all these different places. and have to go and do all these things. Do you dream every night? I'm just so tired. Do you dream a lot? Oh God, yeah, George. Like such vivid dreams as well.

I'm mine always like... Are they normally always nice dreams? Yeah, they're all quite nice dreams. Not like... Not like nightmares. No, I don't really get nightmares. I stream a lot more, I think, when my brain wasn't quite as full with stuff.

What do you mean your brain's full? Full of all that useless information. So, you've just been away. I have. Not once. Twice. How could you win the way twice though? So I was away with work. It was great.

It was a really nice work. Yeah. We went to Ibitha. I mean, I wouldn't say that's work what you actually did. It was work actually. Well, it was. You sat there and you watched a fashion show and it looked like you had a lovely time. My eyes were working hard, okay?

There's pros and cons. Sometimes the work is hard. Yeah, no. Sometimes there's a very, very lucky. I got to go and do that. It was wonderful. So I went away. It was so funny.

I feel, I don't know if you felt this, the older Cooper has got, the more I'm missing when I go, I used to actually not really miss him a great deal. I used to be like, oh my God, thank God I'm free. I'm free. And I'd always be excited to see him, but I wouldn't feel that like hurt in my tummy.

Whereas now when I leave him, I actually feel like a physical, like, oh. Yeah. I don't really feel like I leave my kids that much. I feel like this year I haven't left them. Oh well, I mean. Yeah, but you love it. You love it.

They're with me like so much. You know, you just think they are actually with me. But I may have a trip planned with just me and Will for four days. So I will report back to how I feel. Yeah. But I think more because it's obviously you was like working as well. So I think when you're like in it. Yeah.

I'm that person that wherever I am, I'm in it. You're then like, you're not really thinking about what they're doing at home. And I'll be like, yeah, I know they're going to be fine with my mom, Julie, Will. Like, I know that they'll have everything covered. Whereas I think like when me and we'll go away, I'm going to sit there and be like, is a school run going on? When you've got a bit, like when you've got a bit more.

Yeah, time to think. Yeah, time to think. I think that's it. And there was little moments where I'd be in my room and be like, oh, I wonder what he's doing now. I wonder if he's okay. I wonder if it's okay. So did he just like with Danny? He was just with Danny, yeah.

How did Danny get up? He was great. Do you know what? They had a really nice time. I think it's important for them to spend time together because it's often me and Coops. Yeah, and it's good for them to be together. I mean, I saw his unbelievable putting skills.

Oh my God. I told you he was good at golf, didn't I? He's really good. I know. I was like, go on Coops. I think there's it. And his Danny just couldn't believe it. Is he better than me?

He keeps beating Danny. He does. Oh, I love it. On a nine hole, keep calling an eight hole, don't know why. On a nine hole, it's just what I know about golf. He went to me. He went, Mommy, would you come with me? I was like, yeah, I'm sitting have a glass of wine

whilst you put it. You just do that with your dad. You don't need mum involved in that. I don't think I need to be involved in golf. I think with men, though, they like, at whatever age, they like you to oversee whatever they're doing. Because I think they like the attention. They do, don't they?

Because Boney says it about football on a Wednesday night. Mom, why don't you ever take me football on a Wednesday night? Because I actually am at K-to-K, like, that's what Mommy does. And he's like, yeah, but you never come. I'm like, yeah, that's what you do with Will. I don't need to be over there overseeing your football. No. But they love it.

They like the attention. They do. And it was funny because Danny said to me when I was away, he was like, oh, Cooper had gone, Daddy, when is mummy home? And Danny was like, oh, she'll be home soon, mate. Why are you bored of me? And he went, no, I just want my mummy. Yeah, they do.

And I was like, oh, my gosh, love their moms. Anyway, so then I got back. And that evening I got back, it was exactly what I wanted to do. was absolutely ecstatic to see me. I was like, oh, this is brilliant. And he just wouldn't leave me alone. And he went, don't ever leave me like that again. Little did he know I was leaving him the next morning.

Oh, you like, sorry, Coup, I'm off. I was like, Coupes. I didn't actually say anything because I couldn't bear it. I was like, I won't. I'll leave you like that again. He wasn't upset. He was just like, jockey when he said it. I was like, I'm whatever.

Anyway, the next morning I was like, so sweetheart, you know what I said? I wouldn't ever leave you again. Well, I am nipping back to Nana and Granddad, just for a little bit, just for a few days. And he was like, oh, do you have to? Anyway, so off I went. And it was quite nice because I don't know whether you,

it's a bit different with you because your mum's around the corner, but when I go home home, it's either me and Cooper or me, Cooper and Danny, really. It's very rarely me on my own. And I really wanted to go back and be the child again. I was like, I need, I need to be mothered, not be the mother. I just need. What do your parents do for you?

Oh, mum cooks for me. Yeah. Gives me cuddles and just, it's just a general, wonderful mum. And dad, and dad sits and we have deeper meaningfuls and he, well, we went home. I was actually going back to go and see my girls because we were overdue a bit of a catch-up. And we went out and we got. the last train back home. And we got to the train station in our little town.

And there was no taxes. Oh, you had to ring your dad. Taxi rankered close, right? That's where I, where mum and dad live. And I had to ring dad. I was like, Dad, can you come and pick me and cat up, please? And dad was like, yeah, give me five minutes. It was like all times.

Honestly, it was like when we used to go to the discos. Well, I think it's completely different for me because my mum lives around the corner. Yeah, yeah. And also, our family dynamics, is so different. I've got two younger brothers. That's the thing. I was always the baby of the family.

They're the babies. They still get like, when I'm on the phone to my mum, like driving home from like school pickup, she's doing their dinners and sorting them out. Is she? Still? Yes.

Do they both still live at home? Yeah. All my brothers live at home. I thought you've got two. I've got three brothers, haven't I? I've got an older brother. How old are your older brother? Sammy is 41.

It would be 41. this year. Oh my God, I thought you just had the two young ones. No, my older brother, he is, he, he, he is my mum's soulmate. Oh, they're really close. They are so close. Everyone needs a Sammy in their life. Sammy is the absolute best. He's my secret brother. When I used to YouTube, I used to be like, well, clearly, because I didn't know about him. Yeah, he's the secret brother. He hates it, hates any attention. Does he? He hate me talking about him right now. Would he? Yeah. But he is the absolute best of the best. When we finish, I want you to show me a picture of Sammy please.

I don't think I've even got a picture. He hates pictures, he hates pictures, he hates anything. Oh my God, the enigma. If you put me in him in a room and had to like pair up siblings, you would not put us together. Do you not even look like each other? Not really. I probably look more like my younger brothers. Yeah, I think you have got a look of you.

But even our personalities and that, we don't really have, like, we're just so different. But it worked for us growing up because where Sammy is so quiet, I was always. The louder one. The louder one for him. Oh, God, why does that sound familiar? Yeah, it's like a Raylor and Bodie. Yeah, when I look at them, I think, oh my God, you are me and my brother. Oh, that's sweet.

And even like lacking confidence, Sammy has always lacked more confidence than me. So, and that is Bodie. He worries about absolutely everything. He's moved up a swimming group and he's like crying his eyes out of it. He's moved up a swimming group. I'm like, it's a good thing. Yeah, Cooper was a bit like that, you know. Oh, I just can't deal with the drama.

It's like they don't, it's like they get used to something. And when you change it, they're like, oh, no, I don't like this. I was good at it. Because the thing is, they're at the top of the class, so they're the best. Yeah, you're like, you've moved up for a reason as well. Like, they obviously think you're good. Well, yeah, but the problem is when they then move up, they're bottom of that top class. So they're back to the start almost again, aren't they?

I think Cooper's a bit like that. Just get on with it. Yeah, I know. Just move up, for God's sake. Anyway, I went back and I really missed him, but I didn't feel bad about having that bit of me time. Like, I knew I needed it. Actually, and you're quite like this, when I went home, I feel like my family kind of needed me to be home.

So it was meant to be. Yeah. It was I was meant to go home. She was meant to go home. She was meant to chill. She was meant to be mathered. And it was funny because mum and dad were like, do you want to do anything?

Do you want to go into town or anything? I was like, do know what? No. I want to sit at home on the sofa and just chill. But I do think it is different because when we used to go back up north for Tom, Yeah. Again, I think like, because Norring didn't live around the corner, she would want to do absolutely everything for us and Kirk

and do whatever else and take us out and blah, blah, blah. But you just, again, you want to go up there and chill and be like, no, actually just want to land the sofa and do nothing. Yeah, she want to do nothing. But obviously, if she actually lived around the corner, it would be different because your relationship wouldn't be like that. No, it's so true. It is true. Like, I see my mum every day.

Yeah. So. Yeah, whereas I see my mum, what, once a month. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just completely different. But it's so lovely though, because like, you know, like as a mum, you're constantly like on the go, making breakfast. Ah, that's what I like to. Making lunches, making dinner, like, and then it's bad time.

And you're very rarely like, I mean, I hardly ever just sit and eat my breakfast or my dinner without doing a million and one other things at the same time. Whereas when I went home, mum was like, do you want some toast for breakfast? And I was like, yes, please. And for some reason... Can I just sit and chill? My friend. Yeah. And for some reason, mum's toast is the best toast you've ever tasted.

I don't know why. It's an oven batter. I know, but also at mum and dad's house, there's a really shit signal. So I can't sit... Yeah, I can't even sit on my phone at breakfast time because there's no signal in the kitchen. Nice.

Yeah, so it's just... It was just really wholesome and lovely, yeah. Horsome! And I didn't feel guilty. And that is my message to anyone else that is feeling overwhelmed. If your mum and dad live far away, go and visit him. without your children and be a kid again,

just be a child for a little bit. Do it. Yeah. Have you noticed more pregnancy announcements recently? Like loads of celebrities are all starting to announce that they're having babies. Yeah, well, all these older. Like older ladies, that sounds ridiculous. These older ladies.

Slightly older moms. Yeah, I mean, because Siena Miller ain't really far off you, is she? Get lost. She's such little shit, Kelsey. Sienna Miller. It's 44. She's just having a second child. I'm not even 40 yet.

She's closer to you though than me. All right, yeah. Second child. Having a second child, yeah. Well, do you know what? If you feel like healthy and fit and strong and young at heart, then go for it and you can still can. Absolutely.

I mean, obviously my mum had the boys at 39 and 41. Did she? When she had Maxwell at 41, she went into menopause straight away. Did she? Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. She said, like, after having him, like, her periods didn't really come back and she just went into menopoles.

Well, I mean, if you still can and you want them and you, and, like, your body is able, like, also, I do think with women, it's hard because we're such in limbo now because people want their careers. And, you know, there's so many women that are smashing it that are probably in their 30s. Like, when's their time? Because I think you're always scared to take your. foot off the pedal when you're doing well. Yeah.

You know, Vicki Patterson has spoken about she's frozen at eggs and stuff because she's doing so well. So is that like... But also you might not be ready. Like, I know so many people that are like, I'm just not ready for a baby yet. The only thing that I think is offensive is you become the geriatric. Oh, I know. It's a geriatric pregnancy.

I know. I was a geriatric pregnancy. Were you? Now I wanted to go ahead. Hang on. How old were you when you were pregnant with Phoenix? 35. That's a geriatric pregnancy.

That is disgusting. I know a geriatric. That's what we get called. I mean, as if we're not going through enough already. It's so funny when I went back home to see the girls. We were chatting about this and we were chatting about like perimenopause and all that shit. And we were like,

those women have really been dealt at a tough car. We have. Because we start off with bloody periods and all that jazz. When we're so young and don't even understand. Then you actually have to have a baby. Then you have to grow a baby. Or you might not even treat. And then by the time you finish like raising a child,

you bang the menopause and like all that shit. I do think that your lights at the end of the menopause tunnel. Do you? My mum feels fantastic now. She's, you know. Yeah, but it can go on for years for some people, can't it? Yeah, but you just go through them years. That's it.

You go through the years and then you're done. You have to go through it. Imagine if you have an awful, awful menopause experience and you're like, you know what I said about you? You just go through those years. I'll be taking all my remedies and that. Yeah, well. you will.

I'll be like, she'll be remedying it up. Yeah, but Cameron Diaz, she's in her 50s. But obviously, she's gone with a surrogate. She's had a son.

Oh, has she? Yeah. I feel like more and more people that can afford to do that are going down that route, aren't they? Well, I think she probably is in her menopals, though.

She probably can't physically have a child. If you got to like, your 40s and were still fertile, and would you have a baby at that age? Yeah. I mean, The thing is as well, like, obviously, it's age gaps in that, but I've, we've had that big age gap in our family. Yeah.

So you've done it. Like, you've been there and seen a big age gap. Yeah, and I just, even with my brothers, they're at the stage now that they don't actually really want to talk to me. So we're going through that. And then they'll have girlfriends soon and then they'll be back to me. I know that they're coming back. They will be back. Like, when they were babies and, like, little, they used to, like, always, they were always with me and Tom.

Yeah. Wherever we were going, if we were going to events, whatever we're doing. They were always with us in tow. So I think it's really nice when you've got that sibling age gap. Yeah, yeah. But then some people are scared of it, aren't they? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, they are. And that's what a lot of the pressure is, isn't it? With, oh, when you have your next one, don't leave it too long because, you know, you're on closing it. But also, we, again, women, we're just judged whatever we do, aren't we? Oh, yeah. If we have a big age gap, if you are on your, like, my mum, third partner. But, like, Johnny didn't have kids.

That's why she went again. Yeah, and she generally wanted more children. Yeah, and that's it. If you want more. Like, go for it. Apparently, Siena got called irresponsible for having a baby at 41. And she was saying that, like, Robert De Niro and Al Pacino had kids in their 80s. Yeah, they're not judged on.

And they didn't get judged at all. Oh, it's complete double standards. But what? Also, because maybe, look, anyway, I just don't think you can look at life like that. Because ultimately, me and Tom had children in our 30s and Tom's died. Because if people are worried about, you know, your parents being older, I just think it's absolutely irrelevant. Yeah, you've no idea when that person's going to die.

So they could live till, you know, Nanny Wing, Kelsey's Nanny Wynne, is going to be 102. Oh my God, really? Yeah. Like David Attenborough. So. It was not a hundred and two, but 100. 100.

But, you know, you never know. No. Someone said to me the day, because when you, you know, in 30 years time, Georgia, when they said it, I was like, that's wishful thinking. Because I'm going to be, yeah, because I'll be in my 80s. Would I? Hang on. You wouldn't be 70? No, I wouldn't.

You're 40? Do six? I'd be 70. Not wishful thinking that. I mean... I don't know. I mean... Oh dear.

I think he even said that to them on now. Oh, who was it that said it? Now I look an idiot. That's not hard as it goes. What day is it? Wednesday. Oh, my God. Oh, dear.

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Yeah, and they get cast down by children because she likes a shortbread. Hey, to be fair, yeah, to be fair, though, Kelsey, you had a lot of. of support on that bourbon. Yeah. I always get the support. Yeah, I think they were mainly in Camp Bourbon, our listeners. Who knew?

I thought you'd all be chocolate hobnob people, but clearly... Clearly not. Like me! Right, so we've had snacks, snacks, triggers and homework for our top fives. And this week, we're chatting about

the top five things we miss about our life before kids. I... Children's just here She's like Oh yeah I know No

Top one Top one I think Would be Freedom Yeah I'm free To go anywhere

And do anything And not have to think about Other humans Yeah Like where they are What activity They should be doing Exactly

Like now Wouldn't you just love To walk out of this podcast And just be like I'm just gonna go home Make some dinner And shoot Or

Or I might not go home Maybe I could go for dinner in London and not even think about it. My mates are? Do anyone want to go clubbing today? Yeah, anyone want to go out tonight? I mean, we're kidding and we do not want to do that. Yeah, but it'd be nice to have the option.

It'd be nice to have the option, wouldn't it? Really would? Because the thing what happens is you go from being a kid and you have to answer to your parents. And then all of a sudden you have this lovely little nugget of freedom in your 20s where you're like, I don't have to answer to anyone. It's lovely. Like, I can eat what I want, sleep until I want.

I just live through like my cousin and what. well, not really my brother's because they don't go out, but like through my cousins, they have such a lovely time. I'm like, oh, yeah, remember that. Remember that time? And then you go back to having to answer someone, which is a small child because you've got to be a responsible adult. I miss sleep as well.

I do miss. My sleep's not that effective. Is it not? My kids are great sleeping. Well, yeah, but I think since I had a kid, also I don't sleep as well. Yeah. So I think I'm so,

alert to the fact that I have a child in the house also. I think it might be something to do with the fact that I'm deaf in one ear as well because if I'm dead to the world if I roll over on my good ear, that's it. I wouldn't hear him shouting. I would literally be doing that. Would you? If Danny's there, I'd be... No, because Danny's there.

Mouth tape on, eye mask on, earplugs him. He's completely... He's the selfish one really. Well, you said it, Kelsey. You said it. Daily Mail. Kelsey said that. Not me, okay?

Daddy! She loves to call Daddy out every now and again, don't you? Yeah, but Kelsey's in her house. She's the selfish one because she does the mouth taping, the earplugs and the whatever else. Does she? Yeah, I have been, so Will is quite a deep sleeper and snores really bad, so I guess my sleep is more the Will problem. Yeah.

Maybe I'll just get rid of him instead. Oh, look, I'm in a separate room. Or actually, me and Will are together. I keep getting asked if me and Will are actually still together. Do you? Yeah. Why? Because he's not on my social. People actually believe that that's real. And obviously, Storm. My dog, she barks. The foxes have literally been wild and they're tormenting her outside. Do you have to take her out for a wee in the middle of the night? Oh no. She's really good. Oh, that's good. But yeah, it's just the barking. So yeah, there was a stage where I was wearing earplugs now. I've not got the hair plugs in. Is there anything else you miss pre-kid? Well, I guess it is, you know, when I did a, I did some social media.

when I got to the hotel. Oh, I did some social media. Yeah, because I was just saying how crap it was. I did some social media. When I got to the BAFTAs and I was like, do you hear that? Nothing. There's nothing. It's mad, isn't it?

I was like, oh my God. You forget what silence sounds like. But then I'm that person that I'm a bit like, oh, I quite like the carnage and chaos and mayhem and madness. I think I'd be so bored if I actually had a peaceful life. I think you would, to be honest with your cows. I would just get something else. I'd probably have like 20 pets.

instead, when I'd be something else. I mean, it's when I rock up on the school run, they must just think she is nuts as I get out the car with my two kids, my Doberman, and then my little dolly as well. What dolly? Right, as in watching my other dog.

I forgot. Oh, bless Dolly. She's still with us. She's still going strong. She's not had a look in recently on your social media. So then I take them for a walk straight after the school run. Oh, well, she just doesn't stop this girl. There's me going back to my mum and dads.

I actually like a job. child, put my feet up, getting some lovely buttery talk. And then, there's Kelsey, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-la. That's why I actually feel like my life is like at the moment. Oh, like a Benny Hill sketch. I feel like, after, yeah. I think there's so much that I do and try and do. Yeah.

And go, you kidding. You'll go on to the next thing straight away. You know you will. Yeah. Anything else? Anything else you meant? I miss it. I think, again, Dom has wrote being ill in peace.

And I think that's it. But when you're sick, it's... When you're sick, there's nothing you can do. And no one actually cares. Yeah. No one brings you anything on, doesn't you think? But actually, Danny, Danny's got quite good at running me a bath recently, which is ever so nice.

Oh, that is lovely. Yeah. Yeah, I can't know. Will does. I can't thought Will. No. You know, like, you actually sometimes then have to get up for the school run. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. And sometimes you're like, I'm just... You know, like, you could have had, like, a duvet day. Oh. Oh, my God. Me and Danny used to do that all the time when we were younger. Like, especially if we were hung over, we'd just like, be absolute disgusting slobs, but it was great.

And I think it's the guilt as well, because I feel that if I'm not working or doing something, I'm not providing for the house. So I think I have a lot of guilt if I am just doing nothing. Just slob it, yeah, just like being a bit of a bum around the house. No, yeah, I get that. And the other thing I will say, I miss, is how cheap flights are because now we've got to pay for children.

And holidays, just hold days, full stop. Just don't, it's just... I miss child-free hotels. Yeah. I do miss that because me and Danny used to go like, you know. Lovely adults only. Yeah, that's it. Child free.

Adults only, that's what I meant. She's to give. The keeps on giving. Oh, I am. I just wonder whether I'm okay sometimes. I only think it's very menopause. I'm sure of it. I'm sure of it.

Should we do our listening? We don't judge. We listen and then we don't charge. Here we go. School want you just to do eco homework using only recycled materials. I ordered it all off Amazon. Well, because we're so hot on recycling now. Yeah, that's it.

The recycling's gone, isn't it? It's all in the bin and it's gone. It's gone. So, I mean, we never have spare cab. We had to take... We had to take recycling in. Maybe we're doing the same homework. We had to take loads in.

Did you? I did actually have recycling. I just put it on the side. I just do. Make sure the recycling goes on the side. It does not go in the bin this week because he needs to... Boney needs to take that in for school.

Yeah, but I feel like Cooper School don't give you enough warning. I'm like, well, why would you tell us that on bin night? No, we got a message the other day. Literally two days. days ago to be like, oh, we're going to do P.E. Again tomorrow. Like, but then you have to get the P.

Kids ready. Yeah. No, but it's the P.E. outfit, isn't it? Yeah. So I was like, oh my God. Have I got a P.E. Outfit ready?

Have I got a spare one that's not covered in mud or? Yeah. They just throw it on you, don't they? Yeah, they do. They really do. I watch Bluey without the kids now, and I'm not a show. Bluey is great. Bluey is great.

Bluey is really good. I do like when you watch the children's stuff and it's got like that underline humor. adult humor that it's just so funny. Me too. I remember when we were younger and we used to watch The Simpsons religiously every night with my dad.

And I remember my dad used to be like laughing his head off and I remember thinking, why is my dad thinking this is so funny? And now I'm older, I get it. And Dad's like, yes, there were so many jokes that you didn't understand. I was like, oh yeah. No, I don't judge this lady

because Bluey's banging. Yeah. Well, yeah. My seven-year-old knows more about climate change than I do. And honestly, it's getting him. I think our children are going to know way more than us though. Cooper knows so much more about a lot of things than I do.

Yeah. If the tell is not working, Cooper can sort it out for me. Yeah, the stuff that the kids come out of, I'm like, right. When I was back at home, though, I think this goes in like... Yes, then you knew. Because I was back at home, it's me and mum and dad, and we sat in the lounge, and I was doing some work, and they were both on their laptops doing stuff. Mum was trying to do a return, and Dad was trying to upload some photos,

well, when I tell you it was painful. They just couldn't work it out how to do these things. I was like, oh God, this is so going to be me in 20 years time. Coops. Yeah. Coops. Can you come home and help me? Can you pop round?

What next? I tell people we co-sleep for bonding. Really, it's because I'm too tired to move in back. Yes. That was when Bode used to sleep with me. actually couldn't be bothered to get out. Really? Actually just walking back to the room.

Just get in bed with me. I mean, if you sleep well with them in your bed, then go for it. Me and Cooper do not sleep well in a bed together. Why does he? Neither just Danny and Cooper. Cooper loves his own space, as do we both. Yeah. He's just like, oh, mommy.

But Cooper moves so much. Oh, see, Brody just like he would love to just be there with me 24-7. Oh, I do love a cuddle, but yeah, I'm not for. core sleeping purely because I don't, there's no sleeping. No. It's just the core. It's just where they actually move to. Yeah. My son says he got the ick about his dinner. He's five of what's happening. Well, where's he got the ick from to start off with? That's absolutely brilliant. And you know what? I'm sick of the dinner saga. I just said to Arolia, like, she just, well actually, both of them. So they went to my mum's on Sunday. My mom went,

I'll just let you know they ate all their roast potatoes. I was like, are you actually having a laugh? So they never eat roast potatoes. They don't like potatoes when they're with me. They run and eat all their potatoes. That's interesting. And then just the dinner, she just loves to moan about the dinner. And I'm like, I'm not changing.

I don't want to get it. You don't change it, though. No. I don't want to get into that position where I'm making like, you know, four different meals for everyone. No. It's so hard though because you're like, oh, but then if I send you to bed hungry,

that's going to be even more annoying. I know, but I'm like, at school, they eat the, like, when they tell me what they're eating at school, I'm like, I know you're not fussy. Like, Cuba's different. He is generally fussy. Yeah.

Like, mine aren't. So you're eating at school. You know, but you eat the stuff. So, just get on with it at home. I think they just love punishing us parents. They love to chat on with them. Yeah. Yeah.

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