Murdaugh Murders Podcast - Lies Detected: Murdaugh Prosecutor Corrects the Record on Dick’s Deceptions (TSP161.2)

Starting point is 00:00:00 Great news. The federal EV rebate is back. Eligible customers get up to $5,000 with the federal EVAP rebate on select 2027-volt and 2026 Equinox EV models. Visit your local Chevrolet dealer today for more details. This is part two of episode 161 of the Murdoch Murders. Of the Murdoch Murdoch's, I mean, True Sunlight podcast. True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production written with journalist Liz Ferrell. So, at the end of part one of this episode, we told you about some breaking news in the Murdoch murders retrial. There's a new Creighton Waters in town, y'all, and he's bringing some real fed-up energy.

Starting point is 00:00:47 Ooh, I think we might need Fed Up Energy merch. Anyways, we saw this during the hearing, and we talked about it on this week's Cup of Justice with Noah Pines, how Creighton seems so tired to stand there and exercise extreme restraint and not correct every lie or partial truth or mischaracterization coming from the defense. How many Band-Aids can you put on a thousand paper cuts, right? Well, on Wednesday, we got noticed that Creighton didn't bother with the Band-Aids. Instead, he took his paper-cut fist bearing the treacherous wounds from Dick and Jim's constant side show, and he finally used them to take a real swing.

Starting point is 00:01:28 The filing is a correction of defense counsel's false statement at the August 14th hearing regarding polygraph. Which, uh, what? Yeah. So Dick told the court last week that he wanted to make sure that the state never mentions the Eddie Smith polygraph, which Eddie allegedly failed, according to Dick. He clearly brought this up solely to do the thing we keep on saying that they're doing, which is to create points for the pro-Alex trolls to chirp about in the hopes that the trolls will chirp so much that it will spread T. Murdoch's nonsense online where potential jury members might see it and it might stick. Because Dick knows darn well that the state cannot mention any polygraph.

Starting point is 00:02:18 Polygraphs aren't admissible in most circumstances. juries cannot consider them. But in his argument against the state, not mentioning Eddie's polygraph, here is what Dick said. Now, I'm not saying necessarily that's admissible on cross, but I am saying that it's an issue not now, but much closer to trial,

Starting point is 00:02:43 that we need to be able to litigate. And there may be others. We're not, again, we're going back through, I will tell you, Mr. Murdof, passed a polygraph, flying colors. So the same polygrapher. So it may play a role in this trial. I'm not willing to concede that not under any circumstances

Starting point is 00:03:05 can a polygraph ever be used. I'm just giving you this example. He told Judge McCaslin that Ellick had passed a polygraph flying colors with the same polygrapher, referencing the polygrapher that administered Eddie Smith's polygraph at SLED. Dick should have been hooked up to a polygraph because lies detected. You have to listen to this. David, will you read from Crichton's brief? Despite defense counsel Harpoolian's statement to this very court on the record, one, defendant never submitted to a law enforcement polygraph given by, quote, the same polygrapher, end quote, at SLED.

Starting point is 00:03:49 Two, much less to a polygrapher by anyone on the murders. Three, and even though he did take an FBI polygraph solely on the financial matters, four, he failed it. I mean, bravo, I am utterly speechless. How many years have we been saying that Dick and Jim have lied on the record? How many times have we called out media and content creators for not questioning Dick and Jim's credibility because of what the record shows. Finally, finally, it's unavoidable.

Starting point is 00:04:25 John Monk at the state can't look down at his lap and pretend this doesn't exist. Fox News is going to have to address this. And all the trolley content creators who bend themselves into human tie clips just to win Dick's admiration, they're going to be hard-pressed to explain their record of taking everything Dick says about the Murdoch case as Bond. Oh, and we can't forget one of the best, parts of Creighton's filing.

Starting point is 00:04:51 Instead of a bitchy little footnote, Creighton went for a bitchy little citation, which is actually savage. David. When counsel Harputliot makes the false statement that defendant Murdoch passed a polygraph, defense co-counsel can be observed to look at each other in a way

Starting point is 00:05:10 that can only be called incredulous and then start to whisper to one another. Truly, it is so funny. Because when you roll the tape, that is exactly what happened. I cannot believe there was a time when we didn't want to retrial because this is getting good. Okay, so in part one of this episode, we told you about a few of the most important moments of the second Murdoch's retrial hearing. And we talked about Dick and Jim losing again in this round, like with Eleg Murdoch v. Becky Hill, which federal judge Richard Gergel dismissed earlier this month. Oh my God, they were so excited about that case, too.

Starting point is 00:05:54 Remember all the little breadcrems they drop out there for the same old media and content creators who gulped it all up, like misshaping coy and a toxic pond? Essentially, the case was about holding Becky financially accountable for Ehrlich having to buy another round of experts for his second case, which totally ignored the truth of the matter, which is this. You can't argue that Becky is liable for your second trial expenses when, at the same time, best, Becky prevented a mistrial from happening in the first trial. That likely would have meant a new trial either way, Bucco's. But it wasn't just about holding Becky financially accountable, in our opinions, because one, what $600,000 were they getting from Becky? Two, the legal basis for the case, which was a stretch. And three, we know what they were really up to. We're going to have discovery power and subpoena power. We're going to find out what Becky Hill did. And if she conspired,

Starting point is 00:06:50 with others. Those others, based on the self-feeding monster content creators and their commenters, are allegedly us and Mark Tinsley. Boy, do they love to hint at that defamatory lie. Imagine the dirty and dishonest headlines they would have generated with Murdoch v. Hill. And sure, yes, team Murdoch is currently appealing the decision, but it does put a crimp in their plan. Now, Dick and Jim do you have a duty to fight tooth and nail for their client, though we'd prefer that they do it in an intellectually honest way. That said, I'd be remiss not to point out one of their wins at the August 14th hearing. In episode 160, we told you about the lore of the unknown male DNA profile found on Maggie Murdoch.

Starting point is 00:07:34 It's something the defense has played up a lot, and I understand why. It helps them create reasonable doubt. In the first trial, we all learned that there was a small amount of unidentifiable DNA from a male under Maggie's left fingernails. Dick and Jim want that sample to send to Othrum, a forensic lab in Texas, to see if they can extract anything more from the sample. The state argued that there wasn't enough of the sample to expend, and therefore this testing would waste the sample altogether, and that even Othrum itself has told them they likely

Starting point is 00:08:08 won't be able to get anything new there. Now, Judge McHaslin ruled that Dick and Jim can have the sample so that Othrum can test the results. And if we hear crickets, then we know that Othrim came back with nothing. Dick and Jim do not intend to share the results with the state unless the results are helpful to their case. Obviously, we'll be talking more about this, along with the other evidence and accusations against SLED that Dick and Jim are already making, including accusations against two of the SLED agents, now former SLED agents, who had lead roles in the investigation, and that's lead investigator David Owen and Agent Ryan Kelly. We'll talk about that in the very near future and about the phone

Starting point is 00:08:52 extraction evidence that the state sought to get from the defense. At Friday's hearing, the defense agreed to give notice to the state whether they intended to use any information from the extraction of ELEC's phone they did in this next trial. Crayton agreed to that, but I don't think this is the last we're going to be hearing about it because since ELEC's first murder trial, the state has gained more insight into his phone records as a result of the financial crime investigations, which means they know what they got and what they didn't get. Again, stick a big pin in that one because we have a lot to say. But back to the shenanigans, specifically the shenanigans that seem very much designed to chip away at our credibility and our integrity, something that is very,

Starting point is 00:09:40 very important to the villains, something they're willing to burn villages down for. So we're per usual for all things Murdoch. Dix's fluffy, white-haired bestie Joe McCullough made an appearance at Friday's hearing. Joe McCola is the busiest bee of the Murdoch swarm, steadfastly sucking every drop of fame, publicity, and relevance from this story since 2021. He first represented Connor Cook in the Boat Crash case after Connor's original attorney, Corey Fleming was outed as Ellick Murdoch's bestie. At first, Joe seemed like he was looking to be a hero in this case. In the summer of 2021, he filed a pretrial discovery petition, accusing law enforcement of colluding to cover up for Paul Murdoch in the boat crash. I mean, bold, bold move, and we had respect for it. But since then,

Starting point is 00:10:36 no, no, no. In 2023, Joe befriended clerk of court Becky Hill. Apparently, to get get a press pass for the Murdoch murder's trial, which he attended for six weeks for an alleged Hollywood screenplay he was supposedly writing. McCola also allegedly encouraged Becky Hill to write her tell-all book, you know, the catalyst that ultimately blew up the first trial and got Elyke Murdoch a retrial. According to a source close to the situation, Joe even called her from overseas to check on the progress of her book. And now, ironically, Joe McCola is best known for his role in this saga as the Egg Ladies Attorney. The mouthpiece helping Team Murdoch spread all of those jury-tampering

Starting point is 00:11:28 allegations like wildfire in the media for the past three years. This narrative that McCullough's client, Myra Crosby, was improperly removed from the jury, was pushed and amplified by media outlets around the world, from the New Yorker to Netflix. But there's a big problem with that narrative that all of the media pretty much except us ignores every time the egg lady is written about. Myra's own husband admitted to Judge Newman that his wife violated the order, barring jurors from discussing the case outside of the courtroom. There is no secret as to why she was removed, as we explained in details with receipts in episode 150. But even after all that time, Joe McCola is still pretending he goes to the school, y'all, and it is particularly pathetic now that Plan A, Murdoch v. Hill,

Starting point is 00:12:30 failed. Last month, Joe filed another motion with the court asking for the judge to lift a protective order that barred the AG's office and sled from releasing their records related to the egg lay removal, which the state had already agreed to, by the way, and we've been calling for this to happen for a long time. We all want to see that investigation. So why was Joe McCullough participating in this hearing that had absolutely nothing to do with previous jury tampering allegations? Well, we think to plant those seeds of doubt, to remind the public deceptively that the Supreme Court of South Carolina ruled that Ehrlich Murdoch, did not get a fair trial the first time, and that means he must be innocent. Or maybe he was

Starting point is 00:13:20 just there because he wanted to be on TV. His fluffy white hair appeared to be freshly blown out. But oopsie, Joe McCola told on himself during the first five minutes of his time in the spotlight. Listen carefully. So we were simply asking, and there was no other way to get here, Your Honor, the We originally filed a motion to intervene, to have a court review the protective order to determine that those issues were now moot. And at least the issues that Justice Toll addressed or the reason, as I read her protective order, for constraining any release of investigative materials relative to jury tampering. Now, there's been a little confusion.

Starting point is 00:14:09 The in-camera proceedings, I am not seeking the release of because I have that, but I am constrained by the order of Judge Newman. I was allowed to have them, but I can't disseminate them. I'm good with that, and I don't think those, those aren't the issue today. So I didn't want to, I wanted to eliminate that confusion. I'm here today simply asking your honor, pursuant to the freedom of information. And, you know, the purpose of the FOI is to simply make. make it possible for citizens and their representatives to learn and review the activities of their government. And secondarily, Ms. Crosby asked me to pursue this because she wants to see the quality of the investigation.

Starting point is 00:14:55 She wants to evaluate it. She believes the public should be able to evaluate it. She is hopeful that it will lead to additional information in support of her belief that she was targeted through an orchestrated effort to remove from the jury. So for all those reasons, Your Honor, I believe that it's appropriate for me to be before you as the assigned judge for all things, Murdoch, and to ask you to review that protective order and any others it could be referenced that I'm not aware of. Y'all, did you catch that? Joe McCullough wants the records to be released to the public, but not the in-camera hearing

Starting point is 00:15:36 transcripts. You know, the one that Creighton has a... already included in parts of his filings for the appellate case and the ones that the media has largely ignored and they continue to ignore. You know, the transcripts that reveal that the egg lady's husband, in real time on the phone with the judge and all the lawyers present, on speakerphone actually, outed her as having violated the order by talking about the case outside of the courtroom. They also reveal that Judge Newman asked the Egg Lady directly whether Becky was speaking to jurors about the case and she said, not that I know of. Which obviously, she has since changed her story.

Starting point is 00:16:20 Now, again, Joe wants the public to believe his side is all about transparency in wanting the Egg Lady truth to be revealed to the public. But the truth is, in our opinions, this is once again. Just shenanigans, that they are hoping to twist into headlines to manipulate the jury pool into believing that Eleg was universally wronged in his case, and that the two women, you know, Liz and I, shouting from the rooftops about corruption, well, we can't be trusted. Craton Waters, in a big, big, B.C.E. moment, zeroed in on Joe McCullough's hypocritical nonsense. In fact, I find it interesting how Mr. McCullough says he wants the public to judge what happened, but he doesn't want them to see what was the basis for the exclusion in the first place. And so that needs to be unsealed at this point now.

Starting point is 00:17:16 There's no reason to do that, of course, redacting identities. And that, of course, is the only limitation that we have is that those jurors identities be redacted. The main difficulty in that is there are some MOIs. Those are easily redacted. And another personal identifying information that are normally redacted to protect. people's privacy. The MOIs are going to be easy to do that, memorandums of interview, but they are summary documents only, and there were, of course, body cams of interviews and that sort of thing. And so that's going to be a little bit more difficult and it's going to take some time to do.

Starting point is 00:17:47 But subject only to that, to honor the court and, frankly, the state's promise that we won't be the ones to release your identities. We believe that not only should the sealed inquiry at trial be released, but also within the appropriate bounds of FOIA and subject to redaction, the investigative file as well. Ah, BCE! BCE! Ultimately, Judge McCasland said, I like everybody to know everything, and said that the court will unseal the records and only redact the jurors' names and identifying information.

Starting point is 00:18:20 We hope the court unseals these records sooner than later, so we can put all of the egg lady was pushed out by a conspiracy nonsense narrative to rest. This is a new trial and there is no reason to still be talking about Egg Lady or Becky Hill. What's done is done. What's been ruled has been ruled. But before we go, we need to talk about that change of venue decision from Judge McCaslin and what to us seem to be two very big dots connecting in front of our own eyes in the courtroom. More on that after a quick break. Two dots that we knew in our guts connected, that people in our lives knew connected. But it all just seemed too overwhelming and on the nose to fully commit to believing it.

Starting point is 00:19:16 Well, we believe it now fully. Listen to this. Social media wasn't invented then. Wasn't even invented yet. We had three networks, three television stations. And it got some notoriety. It was a pretty famous case. The son of the Episcopal Bishop of the state was charged of murdering his wife, who was the daughter of a state senator.

Starting point is 00:19:37 Got a lot of coverage. And Henry Floyd heard the case and had a jury from O'Conney County seated. We didn't even have it. I mean, because of everybody in the county knew one or the other. So I've been through this process before, but no, I mean, the most notice it got was I get a call from somebody from Arizona who watched it and I got back to the office telling me what I'd screwed up that day. But nothing like what we've seen in this case, wall-to-wall coverage internationally, nationally, and the state, when you start talking about it, and they talk about media markets,

Starting point is 00:20:17 it's irrelevant. Whether you're in Greenville or Charleston or Beaufort, it didn't matter. It permeated everybody's consciousness. Ten million people watched this. And if they didn't watch it live, they watched it on YouTube or court TV that night or with the feed on their their phones. I mean, it just permeated everything. So what's the solution? Well, first of all, I don't believe the state is arguing we should go to the 14th Circuit and try to pick a jury.

Starting point is 00:20:47 And we have enclosed a copy of an order issued by Judge Kelly. You've got to be kidding me. I think yesterday or the day before yesterday in a civil case where the defendants in that case, with a lot more resources than us, developed all kinds of factual basis. So why that case, which is related to the boat death case, the Parker case, should not be tried in the 14th Circuit. And he moved it to Spartanburg. and we would ask the court to allow us to introduce all the exhibits relied on by judge Kelly in that matter into this matter so that your honor will have the ability to review all those we'll get them and get them to you if necessary

Starting point is 00:21:36 there's statistical studies of judge Kelly's order is a work of art I read it yesterday and like you I think you probably would agree with me. Well-reasoned, factual basis is extraordinary. And that's a civil case where, you know, there is no Sixth Amendment right on either side. A work of art. And we would ask the court to allow us to introduce all the exhibits relied on by Judge Kelly. You mean the scrapbooks of Mandy's social media posts about the BeachV Parker Civil Conspiracy case? I mean, bang, boom, right? There it is. That's the chess. move. All this time, we've been watching gas station billionaire Greg Parker go to the absolute and unnecessary max in pursuing a contempt charge against Mandy. According to court records,

Starting point is 00:22:29 he has spent in excess of $310,000 pursuing this contempt charge long, long after the deposition he sought and that she sat for. And all along, we've been like, wow, that's a lot of scrapbooking of Mandy's opinions. That's a lot of time spent chipping away at her credibility and frankly her will. our will to keep going. Is this just about Greg Parker's fragile ego or is there more? And I mean, there it all is. The nearly six months that Parker and his attorneys Debbie Barbier and Mark Moore have spent using the South Carolina legal system to, in our opinions, exact personal revenge over the things they don't like that Mandy has said on her social media, opinions that are protected by the First Amendment. All of that wasn't just about Greg Parker, was it?

Starting point is 00:23:19 It was about systematically destroying Mandy's professional reputation so that her words, her words, her free speech, would matter less when she said them about these cases. I'll say it again, this wasn't just about Greg Parker. It was about Eleg Murdoch and his co-conspirators, and you know, not everything is about us. Despite what's been happening, most things still are not about us.

Starting point is 00:23:42 When Dick said, I think you'd probably agree with me, to Judge McCaslin about thinking that the order, which was written by Greg Parker's attorneys, meaning Greg Parker paid for that order, was well-reasoned on a factual basis. I'm not going to lie, the thought of that broke my heart a little, and so did this. Further, this ruling is supported by the court's recent order in Beach v. Parker, that I just read yesterday that Judge Kelly, I was interested in his order. I did go read it. There, the court found that the moving party made an affirmative showing that a fair and impartial trial could not be had in Hampton County due to the extraordinary pretrial publicity and the surrounding litigation.

Starting point is 00:24:34 The court concluded, other than publicity, the settlement of the wrongful death action, the criminal prosecution. the criminal prosecution of Mr. Murdo, the defendant in this case, including his reversal by the clerk of court. The same publicity and public attention that justified transfer in Beach is present here and further supports this court's determination of a change of venue is necessary to protect. the defendant's constitutional rights. Obviously, we respect Judge McCasland, so it's disheartening to think she read the words that are in that order about us. It's disheartening to hear an endorsement

Starting point is 00:25:25 of an order that, in our opinions, was the end result of months of bullying, harassment, and purchased lawfare against Mandy that was employed to amplify and create a cloud of distraction in the court to get something like this wholly unfair change of venue through in the Beach v. Parker, case. Not that we disagree with Judge McCaslin's decision, and it was nice to see her also

Starting point is 00:25:47 mentioned that the publicity, i.e. the us part of the order, wasn't the only reason for the venue change. The order also mentions that the fact Parker had already settled for $15 million in the wrongful death suit could prejudice the jury pool against him, along with his connection to Murdoch through the boat crash itself. And again, he called the change of venue order in the beach case, a work of art, in front of God and the judge and the whole world to see. I just have to pause for a second and correct the record because there is so much being misunderstood about this order and, in our opinions, is full of big, bright red flags. And not to make everything about us, but the order blames us, journalists, for negative pre-trial

Starting point is 00:26:42 publicity in the Beach conspiracy case. And here's the thing. Greg Parker is receiving negative publicity for this case right now. Six years after the alcohol was illegally sold to Paul Murdoch from his store, well, because of Greg Parker. But I was named three times in this order. And it, of course, refers to me as a podcaster slash blogger because they love to put that on the record. On the first page of this order, they mentioned our crowd the courthouse campaign, which was far more successful in Spartanburg and York than it was in Beaufort County, mostly because we never got confirmation on whether or not the hearing was happening until it was actually happening. But when they mentioned this in the order, they did not state a reason for what it had to do with anything.

Starting point is 00:27:36 If you are arguing that our crowd the court campaign ruined your jury pool, Why would you move it from the circuit where it really wasn't successful to the circuit that it was very much successful? The circuit where twice two courtrooms were filled with our supporters in pink. The actual details of our crowd the court campaign completely contradict their point. So, of course, they mention it while hinting at the fact that I should be blamed for the trial being moved. And it worked for them. You might be asking yourself. But wait, Greg Parker asked for a change of venue in the original boat crash case when

Starting point is 00:28:15 there was far more publicity about that case in 2023, and Judge Hall denied that motion. What's the difference now? Well, according to the order, which we believe was written mostly by Mark and Debbie and signed off by the judge, get this, they say, again, it's our fault. The order says that the amount of, quote, negative pretrial publicity focused specifically on the Parker's defendants by Ms. Matney, Miss Farrell, and Lunashark in the past 10 months did not occur in the previous boat crash case when Judge Hall made that call. Even though at the time that the wrongful death boat crash case was being litigated,

Starting point is 00:28:56 we made dozens of episodes following the details of that case for our millions of listeners. But the thing is, we basically stopped covering the boat crash in the subsequent lawsuits. Over two years ago, there wasn't much to cover until 10 months ago. As this work of art order points out, huh, let's think about what has happened in the last 10 months. Ten months ago was around the time when Greg Parker's attorneys allegedly purchased our team's private text messages from Cali Lyons, and somehow those text messages, which might have been illegally obtained,

Starting point is 00:29:37 were leaked on the internet to harass us and scare us into doing whatever Great Parker's attorneys wanted us to do. Ten months ago was around the time Jim Seidel the felon started ramping up his intentional infliction of emotional distress campaign against us and apparently was working with Greg Parker's attorneys behind the scenes. Ten months ago was around the time when Greg Parker's attorneys launched a legal war on Luna Shark with unnecessary and intentionally harassing subpoenas. Ten months ago was around the time Deborah B. Barbier decided to put my cell phone number on the internet and I received so many harassing texts that I had to get my number changed. Did they think that we were going to be quiet about all of that? Did they think that

Starting point is 00:30:30 harassing a journalist through a series of what we believe to be unconstitutional content proceedings, did they believe that those would not increase negative publicity about Greg Parker? Did they think it's really our fault that they have received negative publicity in the last 10 months when they started all of this? All along, all they ever had to do was agree to a Zoom deposition, and I would have answered a few questions that they claim to need for their case and there would have been a tiny, tiny fraction of the pretrial publicity that they received. We believe that Greg Parker and his team of villain attorneys are the only ones to blame for any jury pool polluting going on here.

Starting point is 00:31:18 They got my deposition on April 8th, and guess what? Mark Moore, Deborah Barbier, Jim Bannister, and Rhett Ricard decided to go forward with all of the content proceedings. decided to force a well-known and well-respected South Carolina journalist into a mini-trial, treat her like a criminal, and condemn her for standing up for her rife to feel safe at a deposition, and shame her for every single time she dared to post about their client doing wrong or the system being corrupt. And it's me, guys, I'm the South Carolina journalist. Again, I believe they did all of that to punish me. I believe they did all of that to silence me. What a $176,000 fee from the court would silence most voices in this business.

Starting point is 00:32:07 But they picked the wrong voice to silence. This voice got louder instead. And here we are, telling hundreds of thousands of y'all listening out there that Dick Harpoolian is wrong when he says that this order is a work of art. Not only did they blame us for creating such a such a stir in the low country that they needed to move this trial, they supplemented their argument with case law about pre-trial media influencing juries. Except those cases were from 1940, 1975, 1939, and 1899. Way before the internet, way before social media, way before

Starting point is 00:32:53 documentaries, and way before true crime podcasts. The order is citing case law from a time that no longer exists. A time when it was nearly impossible for people in Spartanburg to learn endless details about a lawsuit in the low country. But to overcome the obvious leap and logic of wanting to move a case across the state because of media coverage, while ignoring the fact that the internet exists now, which makes all of that case law outdated, Craig Parker hired a company called Research America to fund a survey of $300,000,000,000 33 people from Hampton, Allendale, and Spartanburg counties. Y'all, they surveyed less than half of a percent of the population in each county,

Starting point is 00:33:40 and they did this survey by calling landline telephones. Think about all the people in your life who have landline home phones. I know one, and that is my 101-year-old grandfather. His opinions influencing a survey. of any kind would be vastly different from a survey that would actually be done from people most likely to sit on a jury. See how those results would be skewed? And also think about the people who answer survey calls on their landlines.

Starting point is 00:34:17 Even considering that very wide margin of air, when thinking about how they conducted this survey and how few people they interviewed, the results were that 37% within the Hampton Allendale Jury Pool were aware of this lawsuit compared to 19% in Spartanburg County. 37% versus 19%. That's really not that big of a difference, right? Especially when considering that they pulled less than half of 1% of the population from landline telephones. And I also have to wonder how much did Greg Parker pay for that study? And is that study included in the $171,000 bill from him?

Starting point is 00:35:04 Anyway, back to the Murdoch hearing. What a production, right? Regardless of whether they all get together in a war room to discuss how to shut up Mandy and Liz or whether they simply are using all the information available to them to fight for their client. It's still shenanigans. and it has actual consequences to our lives and the lives of the Beach family. The truth tellers get punished yet again. Speaking of shenanigans, listen to BCE at the end of the hearing.

Starting point is 00:35:38 Are y'all going to try, let me as turnaround's fair play, are you going to challenge any chain of custody on him? Not if we agree to the procedure and my scientists are okay with it. There would be, unless, you know, shenanigans happen. Okay, well, let's. I did say shenanigans. Y'all. Shenanigans.

Starting point is 00:35:59 Again, can I say just how much we are loving Crayton Waters 2.0? This is bigger than BCE. It's better than BCE. To we call it angry Craton energy, raging Craton energy, giant Craton energy? I don't know. We need a workshop. But going back to his memo to the court,

Starting point is 00:36:20 calling Dick Harputtlian a big all liar, He never did anything like that during the first round of the Murdoch murders trial. This stuff does not happen among South Carolina lawyers. It's against their unwritten rules. It was brave of Creighton to step out of line, and I hope to see other lawyers in this state follow in his footsteps. We have said this since the early days of MMP. Ehrlich Murdoch was not made in a vacuum.

Starting point is 00:36:49 He was raised and enabled by a system that treated lawyers as if they were above the same laws that enriched them. South Carolina attorneys, especially the powerful ones like Dick Hart-Pootlyan and Deborah Barbier, they are rarely ever called out for their lives. Their diabolical behavior, in my opinion, reflects a system that never, ever holds attorneys like them to account. Let's face it, y'all. South Carolina has one of the most corrupt legal systems in the nation.

Starting point is 00:37:22 and it's because of this culture. Maybe Creighton realized that he has to be meaner, sharper, and more bombastic to get to the media this time around. They aren't going to call out Team Murdoch for their lies, so Creighton has to spell it out for them. Whatever we want to call Creighton 2.0, we are here for it. The next pretrial hearing dates are set for Friday, November 13th, with motions due October 30th, and responses to those motions due November 6th, the Murdoch murder's retrial remains set for April 27th. Buckle up for a bumpy ride over this mountain of nonsense.

Starting point is 00:38:03 In Absurdity, 2.0. Until next time, stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production created by me, Mandy Matney, co-hosted and reported by journalist Liz Pharrell, research support provided by Beth Braden, Audio production support provided by Jamie Hoffman and Grace Hills. Case file management by Kate Thomas. Learn more about our mission and membership at LunaSharkmedia.com.

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Murdaugh Murders Podcast - Lies Detected: Murdaugh Prosecutor Corrects the Record on Dick’s Deceptions (TSP161.2)

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