Murdaugh Murders Podcast - MMP #15 - Was Alex Murdaugh Actually Shot? Part Two

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

Alex Murdaugh was allegedly shot in a botched "Assisted Suicide Plot" on Saturday, September 4th, 2021. In this breaking news episode, Investigative Journalist Mandy Matney analyzes the three ca...lls made to 911 on that fateful day, the charges pending against Alex and the charges pending against the man Alex alleges shot him, Curtis "Eddie" Smith.Alex's lawyers initially portrayed him as a victim, but later they suggest and allege he was involved in a suicide scheme for his last surviving son...? Eddie Smith, who was also arrested for the shooting, faced severe charges, while Alex faced lesser possible penalties. Matney highlights the discrepancies in Alex's statements, the delayed police response, and the potential manipulation of the narrative. The conversation also touches on the broader issues of justice and power dynamics in South Carolina.We also hear from Eddie Smith's attorney Jonny McCoy whose experiences with the criminal justice system provide a unique perspective as this case and others are concerned.Lots to cover, so let's dive in... 🥽🦈 And a special thank you to: The Bannon Law Group - From sitting by the fires to setting them, the Bannon Law Group has got you covered. Ross & Pines - Uncovering the truth and fighting police coverups is what Noah Pines and his team of lawyers at Ross & Pines do when defending you from being falsely accused, or wrongly convicted, of committing a crime.  Nature's Highway CBD - Nature’s Highway is dedicated to introducing consumers to the life changing potential of CBD and its family of other relevant cannaboiniods. We pride ourselves on providing the purest, highest quality hemp products at the most competitive prices. Midwood Smokehouse - We're your neighborhood smokehouse using nothing but NC hickory hard wood and hard work to make the best barbecue around. Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Members ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠also get access to ad-free listening, searchable case files, written articles with documents, case photos, episode videos and exclusive live experiences with our hosts on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunasharkmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ all in one place. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out our LUNASHARK Merch 👕⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ What We're Buying... ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠info@lunasharkmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter.com/mandymatney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Alec Murdoch. I need police and an ambulance immediately. Murdoch, Death in the Family Official Podcast, is here. I'm joining Patricia Arquette, Jason Clark, and the cast to uncover all things Murdoch. Family first. To unravel the story piece by piece was really surprising because you don't want to believe it. Murdoch, Death in the Family Official Podcast, Wednesdays. And stream Murdoch, Death in the Family on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Terms apply. I don't know if anyone shot Elyke Murdoch, but law enforcement recently released three 911 calls in the alleged shooting, which frankly raise more questions than answers in this endless Southern saga. My name is Mandy Matney and I've been investigating the Murdoch family for more than two and a half years now. And this is the Murdoch Murdoch's podcast. Previously on the Murdoch Murdoch's podcast, on September 4th, 2021, which was the Saturday of Labor Day weekend, Elyke Murdoch was allegedly shot. Almost immediately, sources close to the situation told me that ELEC's story was suspicious and not adding up.
Starting point is 00:01:22 The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, which is the same agency that is investigating nearly all of the alleged crimes associated with the Murdoch family, released a statement the day after the shooting that said that Ehrlich's head wound was superficial. They never called him a victim. They never gave any suspect descriptions of the shooter. and they kept their statement simple, which to me was a hint that the story that the Murdoch camp was feeding the media was false. Around the same time, Alec Murdoch's lawyers, Dick Harputlian and Jim Griffin started to embark on a week-long spin campaign in an attempt to control the narrative and make Ehrlich appear like the victim.
Starting point is 00:02:00 They repeatedly fed the media a story that did not make sense, that Ehrlich was changing a tire on the side of a rural Hampton County road when a man drove up to him and shot him. And then things got weirder. On Labor Day, that would be two days after the alleged shooting incident, a family spokesperson released a statement saying that Elyke Murdoch was going into rehab and resigning from the law firm built by his family, and that would be PMPED. So keep in mind, the Murdoch camp was really pushing this opioid addict storyline hard right after the alleged shooting, which they'd never done before.
Starting point is 00:02:36 On that same day, PMPED, the law firm. firm started by Ehrlich's great-grandfather in 1910 released a statement to the media claiming that Ehrlich Murdoch misappropriated millions of dollars from their law firm. So on that same week, which would still be days after the Labor Day alleged shooting, the South Carolina Supreme Court suspended Ehrlich Murdoch from practicing law due to evidence of misconduct that is under investigation. The next day, which would be September 8th, 2021, a few days after the shooting, sources close to the situation told us that police recovered the knife that slashed Elyke Murdoch's tires from the alleged shooting scene. And that knife was connected
Starting point is 00:03:19 to Ehrlich Murdoch. Murdoch's attorneys claimed that Ehrlich had an entry and exit wound and was temporarily blinded in the shooting. They also told reporters that he was released from the hospital two days after the alleged shooting. So which is it? Was it a serious injury or was he released two days later? The injuries certainly were not. the only holes poked in the stories coming from the Murdoch camp this month. They told reporters that Ehrlich was airlifted to MUSC in Charleston, but he was actually flown to a hospital in Savannah. They told reporters that Ehrlich was changing a tire on the side of the road, but the Mercedes-Benz SUV had run flat tires that he was driving that day. They told reporters
Starting point is 00:03:58 that Ehrlich was on his way to Charleston from Moselle, but the road what he was on was out of the way from that route. We appeared to be the only media outlet holding the lawyers to a count, and calling out their lies. Everybody else was just running around acting like it was a normal thing. However, the Murdoch Spin campaign was abruptly thrown off course on September 10th when sled officials arrested 61-year-old Curtis Eddie Smith. Smith was hit with several serious charges, including assisted suicide, assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature, pointing and presenting a firearm, insurance fraud, and conspiracy to commit insurance. fraud. In the arrest warrants, we learned that Ehrlich Murdoch admitted to setting up a suicide scheme so his son Buster could collect a $10 million insurance policy. News of Eddie Smith's arrest
Starting point is 00:04:50 broke late at night on September 10th, around 11 p.m. But just hours later, Dick Harputlian appeared on the Today Show the next morning where he continued to push this opioid narrative. Harputin claimed that Murdoch was trying to get off opioids on the morning of September 4th. and decided to end his life. He called this guy who met him on the side of the road, agreed to shoot him in the head, and this fake car breakdown. 30 minutes later, this guy's shooting him in the head.
Starting point is 00:05:24 However, Eddie Smith's attorney tells a totally different story about what happened on September 4, 2021. He received a call from Alec Murdoch that asked if he could go to as a Murdoch's house and said to bring me. the truck, which was the, he understood to mean his work truck. And that work truck made Eddie believe that, well, he was coming to do some kind of odd job. And that's where he first encounters Mr. Murdoch in a suicidal, very agitated state. Ronald was requesting that Eddie, essentially a system in shooting and wanted Eddie to shoot at that time to which he refused.
Starting point is 00:06:03 and the state of Mr. Murdoch just continued to deteriorate and there was a struggle for the weapon that went off at some point that he left the scene and Mr. Murdoch was still there with no visible signs of injury. Now two days after Smith was charged, Ehrlich was also charged with three felonies in this alleged suicide rehire scheme. Less than two weeks after the alleged shooting, Alec Murdoch showed up at the bond hearing without a scratch on his head. raised all sorts of suspicions in the public eye. Was Elyke Murdoch ever even shot? While Elyke Murdoch's bond was set at $20,000, Smith, on the other hand, was set at $55,000 cash. In Hampton County Court that week, we watched two systems of justice play out in live action, one for people like Elyke Murdoch and one for people like Eddie Smith. On Friday, October 22nd, the Southwerex.
Starting point is 00:07:16 South Carolina law enforcement division, also known as SLED, released three 911 calls from the alleged Alec Murdoch shooting on September 4, 2021. We're going to walk you through all 13 minutes of these calls. The first call we will play is from two witnesses who passed by Elyke Murdoch by himself on the side of Salcahatchie Road in Hampton County, South Carolina, which is about 80 miles west of Charleston, South Carolina. just laying there fleets weaving his hands around. He looks fine, but it kind of looks like a setup, so we didn't stop.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Oh, I don't believe you. So here the woman is saying that she saw a man on the side of the road waving his hands with blood all over him, but she said that it looked like a setup. And the operator, in response, says, I don't blame you for not stopping. What area of Salka Hatchie Road are you on? What I could tell you? We're like half a nine. Saka Hatchee Road.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Okay, all right, and this was shortly after you turned off a, Walter up coming across Walserboro Highway or? Let me pull over so I can look at my GPS. Okay, can I'm trying. Yeah, I'm trying to pull up a location as well on your phone. I know that we bear to the left. There's what's called a Sylvester Road. Yes, Sylvester Road.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Okay, when you bear to the left there, he's probably two miles down. Okay, about two miles from the Sylvester Road. Okay. Roughly, yeah. Roughly. Okay, all right. Well, let me get my deputies in that area to see what's going on with. Can you give me a description of that mail? So what's weird about this?
Starting point is 00:09:17 The Hampton 911 operator says that she is dispatching Hampton County deputies here. While we don't know what time this call was placed, it was likely around the same time or slightly after Ellick Murdoch called 911, which was at 134 p.m. The Hampton County Sheriff's Office wasn't even dispatched to the scene until 12 minutes after Ellick placed that 911 call, which is very odd considering that they labeled the call an attempted murder in the police report.
Starting point is 00:09:46 It took Hampton County deputies more than an hour to arrive on scene at Salcahatchie Road. I'm going to say he's probably in his 40s. Okay. He's not very large, but he's kind of heavy set. A white hair and it's a black. Some kind of SUV, like a smaller Kia head. SUV or something.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Uh-huh. To stop where he's at? You said that SUV is stopped where he's at? I couldn't understand what you said. The SUV is right where he's at as well? He's pulled over on the side of the road. There's no damage to the SUV. He's got the caution lights on.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Okay. The trunk of it was open. Okay. All right. Well, let me get my deputies headed that area. What's your name and a good contact number for you? Bill, I have my adolph over. Deputies headed out that way, okay?
Starting point is 00:10:40 All right. So thank you. But again, it took Hampton County deputies more than an hour to arrive on scene, which raises several questions. What took them so long to dispatch deputies to the scene and what took them so long to get there? Hampton is not that big. Alec Murdoch first called Hampton County 911 at 134 p.m. September 4th. Here is the beginning of that call. Hampton County 911 was your emergency?
Starting point is 00:11:28 On Salkahatchie Road. Okay, what's the address on Salkahatchy Road? I'm by the church. What church here? What church are you talking about? I don't know the name of it with the red roof. And what end of Sarkahatchee Road, because I don't know what you're talking about. At the Hantley County side.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Okay, what's going on? I've got a flat tire. Mm-hmm. and somebody stopped to help me and when I turned my back they tried to shoot me oh okay will you shot yes but I mean I'm okay you shot where where were you shot at as early as as 49 seconds into Alex's first call we realized that a second 911 operator is speaking with the bystanders the 911 calls are happening simultaneously huh did they actually shoot you, they tried to shoot you. They shot me. But, okay, wait, you need EMS? Well, I mean, yes, I can't drive.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Okay. I'm bleeding a lot. A couple things here. Alex's ton of voice sounds more like he's ordering pizza than reporting to 911 that he was shot in the head by an unknown assailant. Second, he tells the 911 operator that his tire was flat before he says that he was shot in the head. Third, Elyke does not in any way appear to be afraid of the alleged shooter. And finally, he doesn't sound like he's in any pain whatsoever. Where part of your body? I'm not sure. Somewhere on my head.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Your head? Somebody just stopped from me, ma'am. For 911. Okay. Still? Hey. Okay, let me speak to him, see if he can tell me exactly where you are. You're good?
Starting point is 00:13:32 All right here, my concern. I don't open that church. Okay. Red roof. Yeah, hurry, please. About two miles from a pedestrian barrel. Okay, and what's your name? I'm still here.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I'm still on the line with you. What's your name? Alex Murdoch. Alex Murdoch? Yes, ma'am. And you see you were driving you got a flat tire and somebody stopped to help you and they shot you? Well, they pulled over, yes, ma'am,
Starting point is 00:14:05 like they were going to help me. Okay, still on the line with me. We're going to get some. I'm bleeding pretty bad. Okay. John's missionary church. St. John missionary church? Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Okay. The SUV is right way. And can you give me a description of the person that shot you or shot at you? Yes, ma'am. I mean, it was a white fellow. I'd say a white male, a fair amount younger than me. Really, really short hair. You have an ambulance coming in?
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Stay on the line. I got them on the way. Here, Elyke Murdoch is describing the man who allegedly shot him. But here's the thing. This man Ehrlich is describing is completely different from the man who sled arrested for shooting Elyke Murdoch, who is Curtis Eddie Smith.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Eddie Smith looks much older than Ehrlich. He is 61 years old. while Ehrlich is 53. He does not have short hair. He has long, curly hair. And we're going to talk to Curtis's attorneys about this later in this episode, but it's something to take note of. And something else,
Starting point is 00:15:30 he quickly changes the subject. He really seems to not want to answer questions about who allegedly shot him. He appears to want to get off the phone. You think one of y'all can talk me to the hospital? Yes, sir. You want to get the trunk, though, because I got a baby.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I need to get in this car and drive. me? Oh, yes, I'm going to drive me to the hospital. Ehrlich Murdoch is apparently flagging down two people who were on Old Saucahatchi Road that afternoon. He asked them if they can drive him to the hospital. One of them says that they have a baby in the backseat and he would have to ride in the trunk, but without mentioning that he's bloody or anything like that. Apparently, the call drops and that's the end of the call.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Then Ehrlich placed a second 911 call. This is four minutes after he first placed a call. a 911. At the beginning of that call, you can hear him instructing another person on how to start his car. 9-1-1. Where's your emergency? Yes, ma'am. I lost you. This young lady is driving me to the hospital. She's carrying you to the hospital? Yes, me. Okay. And who is this? This is Alec Murdoch. I was on the phone a minute ago. Okay. All right. He said this, somebody's taking him to the hospital. Okay. Oh, you know what? We got a flat tie.
Starting point is 00:17:10 We got two, ten-twile. Ma'am, I need the ambulance. You need the ambulance? Okay. Are you still in the same location? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Which way are y'all heading? Are y'all driving down the road? No, ma'am. I got a flat tie. Okay. All right. Sit tight right there, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Okay. Okay. Yes, sir. We're still here. We're still here. Hold on. We're dispatching now, giving them information. Where are you at?
Starting point is 00:17:49 I want to get this all over your talk. All right, now they're taking me to the hospital. Okay, so which way are y'all traveling? We're coming down South Hatchie Road to the Hatton Hospital. Y'all coming down, Salkahatchee? M. Ma'am? Y'all coming down Salkaheachie Road to your, to the hospital?
Starting point is 00:18:18 Yes, ma'am. Okay. They sit. They're coming down. They're coming down. They're coming down. They're coming down. Sokahatchie road heading towards the hospital.
Starting point is 00:18:33 All right, we're going to keep EMS and route to you, okay? Okay. It seems as though they're driving a white Nissan, which is not his vehicle. Are you coming off a Walter Bar Highway? We'll be at Waterbury Highway in 10 minutes. They said in about 10 minutes or said they'll be in Waterbury Highway. Mm-hmm. What kind of vehicle are you in? A white Nissan Road. It's a white Nissan Road. It's a white Nissan Road.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And y'all still heading down the road, Mr. Murdoch? Yes, ma'am. Okay, y'all still heading down the road? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Okay. And what's a good callback for you, Mr. Murdoch? We're at Leipsey Crossroads now.
Starting point is 00:19:30 You're at Leipzig Crossroads now? Tenford, be advised down one of our highway in a white Nissan rogue, white Nissan Rogue. Is the flasters on? Do you have the, this time this bill 1017 to the hospital? Ma'am. You're still on the, okay. You're still 17. Do you have your flashes on on the vehicle?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Is the flashes on? Is the flasers on? Yes. Yes. Hotel Lowe. To go into the hospital. Tim, they're on Walter Bar Highway. All right, we see the ambulance.
Starting point is 00:20:26 1012. Okay. Telling we in a white car. They're in a white Nissan road on Waterbury Highway. They are pulling over. They see the EMS. Okay, do you, y'all stopped? I see them.
Starting point is 00:20:44 You're at Waterbury Highway and where? They're here. Okay. Okay. I'm going to hang out now. Okay, then you... At this point, it's at least ten minutes. at least 10 minutes after Ehrlich Murdoch initially called 911 and he was getting into an ambulance,
Starting point is 00:21:05 and the plan was to take him to the Hampton Hospital. Care flight officials told me that the medical helicopter that transported Elyke Murdoch from a landing zone about seven miles from the alleged shooting scene was dispatched at 1.43 p.m. approximately nine minutes after Elyke Murdoch called 9-11. So who called a medical helicopter for Elyke Murdoch when he apparently had minor injuries? And was Elek intentionally trying to divert law enforcement away from the scene? An eyewitness at the scene of the helicopter landing showed me pictures that were timestamped and said that the helicopter landed at the scene along Charleston Highway and Varnville around 2.15 p.m. and the helicopter left around 2.25 p.m. The helicopter, which is based in Colleton County, transported Ellick Murdoch
Starting point is 00:21:58 to the hospital in Savannah, Georgia. This leads to so many questions. Again, who called the medical helicopter and why isn't that apparent on these 911 phone calls? And what was the point of all of this? Was he trying to end his life? Was he trying to get drugs at the hospital? Was he trying to do something to get the public to feel sorry for him? Or did he want people to believe that drugs dealers were after him and his family? Or was all of this just a big distraction from the double homicide investigation? The 911 calls unfortunately didn't answer any of those questions, and neither did the few pages of medical records released by Alec's defense team last week. I don't trust those records, and I'm not going to waste my time analyzing them. We can clearly hear that
Starting point is 00:22:45 Elek was not suffering after this alleged shooting, and he told the dispatcher that he is fine. So what does this mean for Eddie Smith? After the 911 calls were released, I took another look at the arrest warrants against Eddie Smith, the man charged in this alleged shooting, and I noticed something. The arrest warrants contain everything we know so far about SLED's case against Eddie Smith, and it's concerning to see that ELEC's statement appears to make up a lot of the backbone of those affidavits, at least from what we can see. ELEC has proven to be completely unreliable, so why was a statement,
Starting point is 00:23:41 even mentioned in those arrest warrants. And another thing, Elyke was supposed to be the mastermind behind this operation. Why is he facing significantly less time in prison than Eddie, who is charged five felonies and two drug counts related to the search warrant in this case? Eddie faces up to 65 years in prison for charges related to the assisted suicide scheme, while Elyke only faces 20. From what we know, the only thing Eddie has admitted to is being there on old Salcahatchie Road and disposing of the gun afterwards. Curtis has told his attorney and multiple media outlets that he wrestled the gun away from Ellick and the gun went off but did not hit him. So does SLED have any more evidence against Eddie Smith? In the last two weeks, I've had a lot
Starting point is 00:24:25 of long conversations with one of Eddie Smith's attorneys, Johnny McCoy. McCoy has spent most of his career fighting for the wrongfully accused, including himself. In 2009, when he was a young attorney, McCoy was wrongfully arrested himself by Columbia South Carolina police officers in Five Points, which is a popular bar district downtown. Video evidence shows McCoy asking Columbia police officers why they were arresting his friend and then officers shoving him multiple times before placing him under arrest. He was charged with resisting arrest and forced to spend a night in jail at the same detention Center where Ellick Murdoch is now. During that time he was in jail, he watched a man hang himself.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Those few hours in jail forever changed McCoy's life. While dealing with scars that just won't heal, McCoy became determined to use his law degree for good and fight for those who had been wronged by the system. He eventually won a $300,000 settlement with the city of Columbia, which he then used to start his own law practice. In one of McCoy's cases, he won over $11 million in a civil rights lawsuit involving a Myrtle Beach man named Julian Beton. Betten was shot nine times by police officers while inside his home. I plan on getting into more details of that case in a later episode, but you all need to understand that McCoy comes from a different place than most defense attorneys.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So I started this conversation by asking McCoy what he thought of the 911 call. I mean, Alex Murdoch said that the guy who shot him was quite a bit younger than him. We all know that Curtis is 61 years old, that he was, had very, very short hair, which we all know. Curtis has got those beautiful golden locks. And, I mean, at the end of the day, you're watching a mass-man manipulating liar con man lying. You're listening to him create a false narrative right in front of your eyes. And for Slev to say, okay, okay. right right but this time the second story he said it was a confession so you know the guy looks like you know
Starting point is 00:26:36 the guy looks like a a a godlike figure so if he's saying all right this is my confession it this then it must be true and that is the craziest thing i've ever heard of as a criminal defense lawyer to think that an individual in a position of power can literally say this guy did something to me somebody that they don't like. This guy did something to me. And that person would just be arrested based on their words and their words alone with nothing. I mean, there's evidence to the contrary. There's not even evidence obviously showing that anything Alex Murdoch said was the truth.
Starting point is 00:27:13 There's evidence to the contrary all the way through it. There are no text messages. There are no phone calls. There's no, you know, scheme drawn out on maps. There's no discussion about it. Alex Murdoch was making it up as he went along. including the calling Eddie to the scene. He was making it up as he goes along.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And the entire goal was to make himself a victim and to change the public's perception of him as, you know, this guy who's out killing and shooting and doing all these other things into somebody who is, you know, he is on the back end of violence. And when you think of it that way, you start to understand that this guy got his ultimate goal. What's the ultimate goal? The narrative changed and then what's the secondary ultimate goal? Opioids in his veins. And he did both. He did both on the side of the road.
Starting point is 00:28:14 After pursuing justice for his clients and himself in South Carolina for more than a decade, McCoy has earned a unique perspective on inequity in our court system. He gets frustrated that the sort of justice seems to be swinging, but the scale is as unbalanced as ever. This is business as usual in the state of South Carolina when it comes to powerful people versus quote-unquote nobody's. I was a nobody, Julianne Benton was a nobody, Curtis Smith was a nobody.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But not anymore. Not anymore. The only thing that's changed in the course of this case after the Today Show interview and all the other stuff that's been brought to light is these people in positions of power are starting to second guess who we can pick off. Who's our next victim?
Starting point is 00:29:03 Can we continue going after no names? And that's the message that we hope to have sense to the people in powerful positions who are ensuring that nobody's watching the watchers, that the watchers are finally going to be watched. And they're going to have to answer for what they've been doing around the state of South Carolina. And they're going to have to answer
Starting point is 00:29:24 for what they did to come. Curtis Smith and Julian Benton and me. They're going to have to answer for it, finally. And that, to them, is completely foreign because they have never, ever had to answer. Well, what happened with the Johnny McCoy investigation? What happened with the Julianne investigation? What's going on to Curtis Smith investigation? So for the first time ever, on a national scale, the country is seeing either gross incompetence
Starting point is 00:29:52 or in on it. and I don't think that they're going to be able to just get away with business as usual after this. We hope to learn more information about the Eddie Smith case in the next few weeks. Stay tuned to the Murdoch Murder's podcast for the latest updates. Follow me on Twitter at Mandy Matney, that's M-A-N-D-Y-M-A-T-N-E-Y, and follow me on Instagram at Mandy underscore N-U-Ullton-Hilton Head for more updates. Before we end this episode, I want to tell y'all, about a fabulous event coming up in Columbia, South Carolina this month.
Starting point is 00:30:29 On October 30th, a fundraiser will be held for the Stephen Smith family at the Capitol Club in Columbia. Proceeds will go to Sandy Smith's legal expenses and a scholarship fund in Stevens name. I will be there. Cody Alcorn of Fox Carolina News will be emceeing. Check for links in the description, and you can donate to the GoFundMe. There's so much to unpack in this case, and Mandy works tirelessly to expose the truth. But the truth is, she works hard and she does.
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