Murdaugh Murders Podcast - MMP #49 - Incoming Call From Alex Murdaugh - Part Two

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

After officials released Alex Murdaugh’s jailhouse phone call recordings, we now have a much clearer understanding of the former attorney and volunteer solicitor’s relationships, plots, and life behind bars.  The Murdaugh Murders Podcast has been working tirelessly listening to more than 100 phone calls between Alex and his family members.  This episode will be one of at least two covering these public records.  During this episode, you’ll hear Alex speak with his family about moving around assets before the receivership was in place.  You’ll hear calls between Alex and his sister-and-law Liz Murdaugh — who is apparently one of his biggest supporters.  You’ll hear more about Alex’s life behind bars and his family apparently supporting him no matter what was revealed about him.  Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ Please consider donating to the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Justice For Stephen Go Fund Me⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Members ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠also get access to ad-free listening, searchable case files, written articles with documents, case photos, episode videos and exclusive live experiences with our hosts on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunasharkmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ all in one place. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out our LUNASHARK Merch 👕⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ What We're Buying... ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Advertising is curated by the talented team at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AdLarge Media⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/mandy_matney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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But as a matter of public interests, the legal. system seems to have fallen on the side of transparency. And after officials released the jailhouse phone call recordings, we now have a much clearer understanding of the suspended attorneys and volunteer solicitors' relationships, plots, and life behind bars. My name is Mandy Matney. I have been investigating the Murdoch family for more than three years now. This is the Murdoch Murdoch podcast with David Moses and Liz Farrell. So to start out, I have some really good news. Last week, Richland County officials told the Murdoch Murdoch's Murdoch's jailhouse phone calls,

and that is a big deal. We would like to applaud Chris Ziegler, the Richland County Assistant Attorney, for doing the right thing. And we also want to thank our MMP supporters who are following us. on social media and wrote to public officials and applied the right amount of pressure in this case. This decision shows the world that sunlight and transparency can ultimately prevail. And now, at least some SE officials want to be on the right side of history. So after waiting all weekend and convincing ourselves that we were fooled and the tapes were never coming, the U.S. Postal Service brought us a whole lot of sunshine in the form of five,

Sparkling, rewritable CDs. Remember those? Yes, Richland County Government uses CD-ROMs delivered by mail. Technology that was available when I was in elementary school to fulfill their FOIA requests. But I will complain about that another day. The MMP teams have been working tirelessly listening to hours and hours of phone calls between ELEC and his family members.

Just as we anticipated, the phone calls were full of newsworthy information, and we will play some of those clips here in a minute. We have maintained from the beginning that these tapes are important to holding ELEC and the legal system accountable, and we believe it now, more than ever, because of the tricks Dick and Jim tried in keeping the tapes from being made public. Other podcasters and critics on social media seem to think we were never getting the tapes, and that we were out of line even asking for them in the first place. They even erroneously claimed that the lawsuit had the chance of making case law in federal court.

And mainstream media remained silent as Dick and Jim used the federal court system to prevent us from hearing Elyx calls. It's going to be really interesting to see whether those podcasters and other media outlets also requested the tapes. While we believe in the public's right to access public information, this one hits a little differently for us. Because while the Murdoch Murders podcast fought to get those tapes, the vast majority of South Carolina journalists covering this case did nothing. Not even a supportive tweet or even a behind the scenes were with you on this. In the South Carolina Press Association, who called themselves defenders of the Freedom of Information Act, nothing. And that's shameful, in my opinion, and honestly shows how deep the corruption goes in the state. And for me, it confirmed what I had been suspecting. The Essie Press Association

is probably a part of the good old boy system too. I say all of this, because I'm sure other podcasters and YouTubers and documentarians and other true crime hacks are going to play these tapes without acknowledging in the very least bit the work to keep this case in the sunlight. And now the rest of those hacks will likely profit off of the hard work of others, which is unfortunately the sad state of media today. So before we get into the calls, I would like to kindly suggest that those listening to this podcast subscribe and show your support for the media outlet in South Carolina fighting for the truth and transparency. So, the calls.

To give you an idea of what we're working with here, we had 11 phone calls for the last episode that we did on the jailhouse tapes back in February. Those calls were chosen because they were either mentioned in the prosecution's memo for Alex Bond reconsideration hearing or they occurred on a date that held significance. After we received those calls several months ago, we filed an additional Freedom of Information Act

for the rest of the calls between October, in February. In total, we listened to more than 100 jailhouse phone calls in the last few days. We have also filed FOIAs for recent phone calls, but we anticipate it'll be a while before we received those. As expected, the phone calls were dense, and it was really hard to get through one without stopping and saying, what did he just say? Not only, were they difficult to hear, they were packed with information. And I'll be honest here, the calls were very emotional. at times. For the first time in all of my reporting, I started to understand why Elek was loved and believed by so many around him. Human beings are complicated, and with Elek, it's hard to understand

a man accused of such horrific crimes could also be this guy who appears to show genuine concern and love for his family members. All right, my man, I love you. All right, love it, too. I'm proud of you. I'm sorry you haven't to do all this stuff. It's okay. You can always say that. But anyway, I love you. All right, let me say. I'm very proud of you.

Thanks. Bye. Bye. Bye. So for a few short moments, I was almost fooled myself. Could I be wrong about this guy? His family? But don't worry.

That didn't last long. Ehrlich Murdoch is still hustling. Hey. Hey. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you doing? Good, good.

Hey, um, Lizzie, what information do you have to have to put money on candy? Um, I don't have to put any, I got the website. Um, so I couldn't read up it. No, no, no. Here's what I'm really asking. You remember me telling you about the, the, uh, the, uh, the guy, Clarence, he's called a runaround. He's got to dogg all the stuff and he's got to help him get books and all that.

Yeah, that one might get me of them. That's right. That's right. And he sturdies around the wheelchair. I mean, he does so much for me. I'd like to give him a little Christmas present. The only thing I can give him is some money on his canteen. And I'm trying to figure out, like, what you would have to have to put a little bit of money on his account.

what information you would have to have. Oh. I would need to know, like, his number. Okay, that's a six-digit number. Yeah, that six-digit number. That's it? Well, what is his full name? Like first and last full name?

Probably just first and last. The name is Clarence Hare, like H-A-I-R, but I'll get his number. Let me, um, if you want, If you can hang on more second, I can go down to my computer and see if I can just type it in. Got nothing but time. He's still gambling. What are you doing? I just finished playing a little poker.

I told you my canteen got screwed up this week, right? Yeah, you did. So I didn't play anything. So I've been having to play chess and cards and tunk and poker for canteen items. I'm about stocked back up. He's still enjoying his jail snack. You know, the food's so bad, but Jim put some money on this canteen, so hopefully I ordered it today. They say, hopefully it'll come Thursday.

I mean, Monday. And what are? Little food like pop tarts and some potatoes and stuff, you eat. I mean, you know, this food, you can't eat it. You need to jail. He still loves explaining canteens to his family members and those beef sticks. All right, the canteen is you go to this kiosk, you know what the kiosk is, right? Yeah, it's like the little computer machine out of it.

I know what a kiosk is. All right, so you go to the kiosk and you place your order, all right? And you can order any array of things like hygiene products, just that and the other. Then they got, you know, all these foods, potato chips, a bunch of varieties of potato chips. summer sausage, beef sticks, crackers, and you can order, but you can only order $60 worth. And you order, like, you have to order by Wednesday, and the canteen delivers on Monday. So, like, on Monday, they bring you a big bag or whatever you ordered. So you got $60 per transaction or, like, $60 a week or a week, $60 a week.

He's still working out and talking about it. A lot. Like every phone call practically. When you exercise, do you do it with a buddy or like that's in your pod or you just do it by yourself? You always kill me with your questions. Do I exercise with my buddy? No. I usually try to do it in my room.

Two hours. It takes me an hour to do those up downs or burpees, as you call them, and the mountain climbers. takes me about an hour to do those 12 sets, and then I run in place, you know, and do stuff with my arms for about 20. He's still getting into some rather alarming mishaps. What was the Alabama final? Like 3010? That's what I thought, something like that.

He ain't going to believe what I did. I've finished doing my exercises, and I went to go get in the shower before the food comes. There's no officer here. And damn, I didn't lock myself out. I'm standing in with no clothes on. I got in pie. I mean, I got, like, stuff over my bottom, but you got no damn, what's y'all doing? Okay, I have to repeat that.

Elic Murdoch locked himself out of jail with no clothes on. And he wanted to chit-chat with Buster about the out. Alabama score before telling him about his predicament. And we will be right back. Alex Murdoch, I need police and an ambulance immediately. Murdoch, Death in the Family Official Podcast is here. I'm joining Patricia Arquette, Jason Clark, and the cast to uncover all things Murdoch. Family first.

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Do a three-way and get Jim on the phone. Why? I want to see if I'm crazy, or that's what he told us? And he's also still manipulating his family. Can you call, John? I got two minutes, and I'm not going to better make another call. I need $28 on the canteen because it's Thanksgiving, the deadline. It's 10 o'clock in the morning, so I need to order it tonight because I'm not going to get out in the morning.

Okay. $28. And tell them, I mean, my status changed, but they haven't implemented it yet, so I haven't had any time. Tell John that I'll be calling him tomorrow. I'll be calling you tomorrow. I'm sending you a letter. Where do you want me to send it to John's house? John's house.

All right. And, um, to make, favor, I usually text Randy and Lynn on the weekend. Will you text them and tell them I haven't been able to use the phone and I'll give them a call when I can? Um, yeah. All right, so text Randy and Lynn. John Marvin, $28 is the most important thing. That needs to be done right now. Okay.

And I'll call you in the morning. All right. So what am I texting Randy and Lynn? Just tell them, I normally call them on the weekends, but I haven't been able to call. And just tell them I haven't been able to call. I can only talk for a second, and I'll give them a call when I can. Okay. And John Marvin put $28 on my can't.

John Martin and Lynn, they both know how to do it on my canteen account. Okay. And I love you, tell Brooklyn, hey, I love her, and I'll call you tomorrow. Start tomorrow I should have a lot more time. Right. Remember I told the Thursday I was? Yep. But it hadn't come into fruition yet, but it should tomorrow.

Okay. All right. I love you. All right. Love you, too. Bye. Even aside from the double homicide and the mysterious death surrounding his family, Ehrlich is accused of some very ruthless behavior.

And you think about all of the victims who have been pulled into Elyk's mess and who have never been the same. You think of people like the Beach family and everything Ehrlich has put them through in refusing to admit fault in his son's boat crash and not settling in the lawsuit. Then you hear one of the very first phone calls Ehrlich placed while in jail, and you remember why this guy is where he is. We don't have the very first phone call Ehrlich made from jail because Richland County held back a number of calls citing various FOIA exemptions.

But we do have the second call, and it was rather unsettling. You know how you know something, but then you find out you didn't really know because you didn't hear it for yourself. We knew Elek was accused of going on a liquidation spree and turning his assets into cash to allegedly keep his money away from the Beach family and other victims and other potential creditors. We also know that he had been accused of prioritizing creditors, like friends and family and Palmetto State Bank. But hearing someone accuse Elek of doing this and then hearing Eleg do it are two different things. Let's set the scene for you. Sometime after Ehrlich was photographed at a Buckees somewhere near Orlando, he was arrested October 14th, 2021 and then extradited to South Carolina.

On October 19th, he was denied Bond, much to his surprise. And he was awaiting the results of a psychiatric evaluation for the judge to reconsider his decision. Ehrlich's second call from jail was made two days after this. He's still in quarantine for COVID, and according to a form we received in March from a foia we sent to the jail, Ehrlich was in protective custody because the jail was concerned for his safety. But also, Ehrlich had signed an affidavit asking for them to drop protective custody, and he did this right away, even before the hearing. Now, John Marvin, Ehrlich's younger brother, is with his family in Sedona, Arizona.

John Marvin is married to a woman named Liz, and on this trip, they've brought three kids and a Buster. You guys remember the Las Vegas photo of Buster and John Marvin gambling? That was taken just before this. Okay, so again, this is a second call from jail. To us, it seems like, you know, kind of a pretty big deal that he's a Murdoch and now he's calling from jail, as if he's at a hotel and nothing's out of the ordinary. But he's just like, hey, what's happening? Also, he wastes absolutely no time in getting to the point.

Oh, and the point is to quickly liquidate his assets and keep them away from the victims and potential creditors who aren't his friends, family, or Palmetto State Bank. Hey, man, how you doing? I hope I'm not calling you too early out there. No, no, we've been up for a while. We just got three breakfast and... What time is it out there now? It's almost nine. Okay.

10-4. Yeah. How you doing? House Buster. He's good. Geez, good. Good. I'm glad he's out there.

Hey, John. Yep. In court the other day, they made a big deal about things. They're going to be moving to try to prevent us from selling stuff. Right. We need to get as much as we can completed and on that note. Did Mark Ball ever respond to you? Um, he did not.

I'll follow up with that this morning. with that this morning. Well, I just know that they're getting ready. I mean, I don't know if it's going to be a day or a week or, you know, two weeks. And, you know, I mean,

they would theoretically have to serve me or Buster, but you should have to accept service. Well, let me ask you a question, Alex. So the, I'll follow them up with Randy and Mark on that. But the, the,

don't truck an excavator. Yeah. You have an issue if I buy them and put the money towards it? No, no issue at all. This seems super generous, right? And maybe it even makes sense because John Marvin owns a heavy equipment

rental and sales center. But by buying the equipment, John Marvin is expediting the situation while keeping the assets and the family. Time is of the essence here because Mark Tinsley and the court are closing in. Now remember,

Ehrlich and John Marvin are very aware they are being recorded, or rather they're intermittently aware. And I say that because there's no other explanation for how they go in and out of saying something that would be dumb to say on the record, while also saying things that sound like they're playing to the audience. I also want to know, Ehrlich and Randolph took out a $600,000 line of credit from Palmetto State Bank. In September, a month before this phone call, the bank put a claim in against Randolph, estate. These guys were selling Alex assets to pay back that debt, so there would be no claim

against the estate, which these guys will be inheriting anyway. I mean, that'll be the easiest way to do a sale. I mean, if you need them, don't do it just to help me. Well, I'll, you know, I haven't communicated with anybody

since I left, but when I left, I didn't have any buyers on either, on those two. Like I say, don't do that. I mean, if you weren't... Well, it's all right. I said, I'll give them to you. No, no. Nope, I'm not going to do that.

But, okay, well, I know what to do, and I'll be working with me. I'm serious. Do you need them, John Marvin? No, I don't need them. I just... Or if you have a use for them, I promise you. I'll give them to you. Well, but I'm not going to do that.

So either way, so I'm going to follow up and see if I've got any real leads on them. And you might speak to Jim if you get a change. just to find out what kind of time frame he thinks before they get any kind of order preventing us from doing anything. Okay. And I mean, well, I'm just doing everything by the book. Yeah, and it's going on. It ain't like we're squirreling it away. It's going to pay bank stuff.

Well, it goes to the unsecured note. So everything else has something securing it, so it makes sense that unsecured items will go to an unsecured note. So basically, what these guys were doing, according to this call. This is exactly why Mark Tinsley filed a motion to freeze his assets and why he wanted to have a receivership appointed. What's annoying is this. Think about all the drama that has surrounded this receivership, about how Alex attorneys John Tiller and then Dick and Jim argued that it would set a dangerous precedent, how they tried to get it dismissed, how John Marvin did two interviews, allegedly trying to set the record straight on the whole thing. He actually lamented to

one newspaper that he was nothing but transparent in this apparent scheme to pay back the bank to keep creditors away from the family's trust. Clearly, Mark Tinsley's idea for a receivership was a smart one. It definitely rattled them. Also sending shockwaves through the Murdoch clan, Mr. Eric Bland. We'll be right back. If you remember by October of last year, Eric Bland had emerged as a central player of the Murdoch's opposing team. Nearly Every day in October, Eric Bland was making headlines in the press for his direct and fiery quotes about Elyke Murdoch. Like, there's no bottom to him, and he is a liar and a cheat.

In fact, Eric played an important role of applying pressure to sled to arrest Elyke Murdoch for the Gloria Satterfield case. To everyone's surprise, that arrest is what landed Ehrlich behind bars for the foreseeable future. In a call on October 23rd, Buster expressed concern over the upcoming receivership hearing, something Eric was very vocal about as he was advocating for all of the victims in this case, not just his clients. Yeah, man, doing good, just, you know, the new developments with the nations and everything,

trying to get us to quit selling stuff. I don't know really what that's going to have in store. Yeah, I told you all that was coming. Yeah, man, this is Eric. You know, I said that was coming? No, I just saw it on Twitter. No, I called Jim Marvin another day to tell him and needed to do it as quickly as possible because they were going to be doing it any day, making a question.

So, this Eric, this Eric Bland guy seems like a real charm. Well, you know, this is just five minutes in the sun, you know? Yeah. I can't believe John didn't tell you that I said that the other day. Whatever day I called, when I went to court, that afternoon when I called on Wednesday, I mean, I don't know if there's anything to be done, but told him we need to get in touch with Mark Ball, get that fun, get it on that thing. I didn't know how quickly it was going to be done.

I said it could be any day now. It could be three days. It could be a week, but it was coming. Well, it's done now. So no reason to threaten over it. No, he's filed a motion. He doesn't have an order yet. no I know

I understand it's not ruled apart so and I would think they gotta serve me to do it well they should have to

serve one of us if they're going to stop if they're going to stop me from doing something well they can only serve you

if you accept service they can't serve you I guess they can serve you individually to keep you from doing anything as power of attorney

but that don't keep John Marvin from selling the shit you know I mean the shit that ain't got

titles especially. The plan to sell off assets and move money quickly appears to have involved ELEC's former law partner Mark Ball in some way. Though, according to the calls, Ball had not been returning the family's phone calls during the conversation on October 23rd. Mark Ball's name should sound familiar. He was allegedly involved in the old jellyfish gambit. He was also Elex colleague at PMPED.

His name also came up in the first round of calls that we played in the last episode on the phone calls. It sounded like Mark Ball was cutting a very important check for Ehrlich Murdoch just days after a receivership was in place. Whatever Ball was doing, Ehrlich wanted it done fast. But I just told, John, they're going to move to try to stop us from selling stuff. We need to get that. If Mark and them are going to do that, they need to do it. We need to get that on that note ASAP. and to get boat money on that note asap. You know, I don't know if it's going to be a day or a week or two weeks,

but they're going to move to stop us from selling assets. Anyway, during this call, Elyke says something worth noting about John Marvin to his son. Yeah, well, you know, John Marvin's too scared to do anything that's teetering. I said John Marvin's too afraid to do anything that's teetering. You know what I mean? Did he follow up with Mark Law? Though, I mean, yeah, we've reached out in the mark, but he won't get back in touch with us.

Been that way for two weeks. I said, we've been reaching out in the mark, but he won't get back in touch with us. He's been that way for two weeks. He doesn't respond. He doesn't respond to our emails or our calls. Randy won't do anything with it? No, I mean, I think Randy's trying to help. I just, you know, I don't think he'll talk to Randy either.

Eric Bland also came up during one of Ehrlich's many phone calls with his sister-in-law, Liz, who was John Marvin's wife. Now, Ehrlich talks to Liz Murdoch a lot. He has a close relationship with his sister-in-law. We mentioned Liz Murdoch in the last jailhouse phone call episode when Ehrlich was trying to get her to put money on his buddies' canteen, which is against the rules, by the way. So by November, Elyke Murdoch had been publicly accused of a lot of horrible things. He was accused of stealing millions of dollars from clients,

including his dead housekeeper's family and an injured state trooper. He was also charged in those crimes, and there was a paper trail of evidence supporting those charges. I say this because at this point, Liz Murdoch should have known that her brother-in-law has some serious issues and has done some inexcusable things. Yet on the phone, especially during this conversation Thanksgiving week, she appears to support him 100%. And she doesn't even seem to mind when Ehrlich asked her to do things for him. I got to get emails. Will you do me a favor? Yeah. Will you send me a letter with everybody's email address, you know, really yours and Busters and John Marvin. can send it to me first, but rather than having to do another one, just send me everybody's email.

And there's a machine that we can have video calls without having to come here to do a video call. Oh, okay. I've got to figure out how to work the machine and how to pay for it and all that. Okay, so what emails do you want me to send? I've got a pencil handy. Now, in November, attorneys Dick Harputlian, and Jim Griffin were busy fighting for Elyke Murdoch, both in the civil and criminal court. But Eric Bland was a big problem for them, at nearly every turn.

Remember, Dick and Jim filed a motion to dismiss the Satterfield lawsuit because basically other people paid for his thievery. In response, Bland called Ehrlich despicable and a coward, all over the media. Dick and Jim were also filing paperwork and attempt to get Ehrlich out of jail, which Blan called a desperate act by a desperate man. It was very clear that Bland was a huge problem for Team Murdoch in November. And Dick and Jim made a shocking move then to not only silence Eric Bland, but they filed a complaint with the bar to go after his law license, which is lower than low.

Anyways, this November 23rd call from Liz Murdoch shows just how loyal the family is to Ehrlich. I'm excited about that gag order. Oh, yeah, Jim and Dick told you about that? No, it's already online, but it's already online. Oh, it is? Yeah. All right. But it made me happy.

Well, I mean, you know, they tell me he said to run in his mouth. Yeah, just ruthlessly. Huh? ruthlessly it's kind of like venom like he's a snake spitting out venom every every other word

Ehrlich and Liz Murdoch talk a lot we'll get into more about their relationship in another episode but he tends to open up he tends to open up to her about stuff that he just really

doesn't talk about in detail with his other family members like for instance his little roadside shooting incident Okay, this is something else I've been wondering. He said that you went blind. Say again? When you got shot, he said that you went blind.

I don't know for how long. Oh, yeah. I mean, I couldn't see for, I don't know, I'd guess a minute, minute and a half, maybe. Two minutes, a minute. I mean, do you feel like you were near death and that you were seeing the right? No. Sometimes it's hard to remember that there are a handful of people out there who actually believe that Ehrlich got injured in a failed suicide for hire plot.

We can't say Liz Murdoch isn't devoted to her cause, but she's gone a little too far imagining any scenario in which Ehrlich Murdoch hits his head and angels start playing their welcoming harps. You and I both know heaven went into DefCon one shutdown mode the second he got a little woozy from the quote, entrance and exit ones. Now remember,

Eleg's attorneys claimed in the media that his injuries were much more serious than originally reported, and they said he was lucky to be alive. But Ehrlich describes it differently. No, it wasn't that bad.

I guess it was the impact. I mean, I wasn't seeing light. I was seeing dark. I mean, the first thing, you know, I mean, the first thing I thought was... You have one minute. it remaining. And then I'm like, I know I'm not dead because, you know, I mean, I just, I mean, I remember

touching my head and I remember, I mean, I remember thinking the back of my head's blowing off and I'm going to be blind. And then, you know, it slowly started coming back. I could stand up because it knocked me down. And then I could stand up. I knew I was standing up. And, you know, then I think I kind of. went to one knee and, you know, I couldn't see.

And I was trying to, it didn't take, it didn't take long at all before it started and proven. He claims he initially thought his injury was a lot worse than it actually was. I couldn't see. I mean, now for a second I thought to myself, you know, am I dead? It didn't take me long to realize I wasn't dead. Then the next thing that occurred is, oh, my God, I'm really going to be messed up. I'm going to be blind, you know, and then it started quickly coming back. But, I mean, I mean, I could reach back and feel my head, and I knew my head wasn't missing, you know?

I mean, I could tell it was bleeding, but I could tell like it wasn't like a big section of my head blown off. Alex then describes what sounds like an extremely miraculous bullet-to-head trajectory. You know, it never hit my brain. You know that, right? Well, actually, I guess I thought that it did hit your brain because... No, listen to it. All right, so you know how fast a bullet comes out of a gun, right? Yeah.

All right, so it hits my head. It goes into my skin. and puts a hole and kind of goes around my skull and comes out an inch and a half, two inches further away. So I had an entry and an exit wound, but it didn't go,

it didn't penetrate my skull. It cracked it a little bit and the force caused me to have two brain bleeds. But, you know, all the brain bleed is is a bruise on the brain. So, I mean, I don't think it was anything permanent. I don't feel dumb or hindered or anything like that.

But no, this wasn't like, okay, things go dark, and I see the light and I'm going to the light. It went dark, and I couldn't see shit. And then it started lightening up, and I could see things around me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, no, but... I think it was just the impact from the force of the bullet that knocked me down and probably, I don't know, I guess site is somewhere back there and it interrupted it for a little while. I take all the details when I see you.

That's another thing about these calls that we realize. Ehrlich believed he was getting out of jail. He kept saying, I don't want to get my hopes up, but at the same time, he kept saying things, like when I get out of here. A lot of times, followed up with phrases like, I'll tell you about the things I can't say over the phone. And just so his lawyers know, because they tried to argue the opposite, Ehrlich was very much aware that he was being recorded and his phone calls were being listened to. I mean, you know, every one of these phone calls recorded and you know that they're listening to them. Yeah. Well, I knew that they were recorded.

I didn't know if they really care to listen to. I'll talk about... I promise you they're listening to mine. As you can see, there is so much more to unpack in these calls, and that's what we're going to keep doing. So much reporting has gone into this story. the phone calls are yet another layer of this unfolding saga. There are a lot of connections to make and a lot of questions to ask, and that's what we will continue doing. There's a lot going on with things like Buster getting back into law school, and we will talk about everything that was said

and not said about Maggie and Paul. We have a lot more calls to share with you. Stay tuned. It is not often I get a share really great news in this saga, but I have some for you today. The Satterfield family, with the help of their amazing attorneys Eric Bland and Ronnie Richter, are starting a foundation in honor of Gloria Satterfield. Not to forget their community. The Satterfield family is creating a charitable foundation known as Gloria's Gift Foundation, and it will aid struggling Hampton County families at Christmas. In a recent release, Blanton Richter announced a foundation that will be formed in Gloria's honor

that will initially be funded by some of the settlement proceeds received by Gloria's sons and her surviving siblings. The foundation will be for the exclusive benefit of underprivileged Hampton County families, the good, God-fearing, law-abiding, and hard-working people who struggle, like Gloria did to make ends meet. I am honored that the Satterfields invited me to speak at the ceremony this Thursday at the Stanley Arts Center in Hampton, South Carolina. I am so grateful to be a part of this event symbolizing changing tides and better days ahead for Hampton County. Stay tuned for updates and video

of this event. The Murdoch Murders podcast is created by me, Mandy Matney, and my fiance, David Moses. Our executive editor is Liz Farrell. Produced by Luna Shark Productions.