Murdaugh Murders Podcast - MMP Remastered #15 - Was Alex Mudaugh Actually Shot? Part Two

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

This remastered 15th episode of the Murdaugh Murders Podcast features journalists Liz Farrell and Mandy Matney unpacking the contradictions, chaos, and cover stories surrounding Alex Murdaugh’s now-infamous roadside shooting.Recorded as the truth about Alex’s insurance fraud scheme began to unravel, this episode reveals how the incident became a desperate attempt to shift public sympathy while investigators closed in.Mandy and Liz Farrell dissect conflicting 911 calls, bizarre timelines, and law enforcement’s inconsistent response — exposing how power, privilege, and deception collide in South Carolina’s Lowcountry.With insights from attorney Johnny McCoy, they explore how “Cousin Eddie” Smith became the fall guy for a tangled web of lies.Episode References“Accused of misappropriation of funds, Alex Murdaugh resigns from law firm and enters rehab” - Hampton County Guardian, Updated Sept 7, 2021“Attorney says Alex Murdaugh ‘decided to end his life’ after murders of his wife and son” - The Today Show, Sept 15, 2021🔗 Watch Murdaugh: Death in the Family — now streaming on Hulu and Disney+🔗 Watch the MDITF Official Companion Podcast featuring interviews with the cast, crew, and creators behind the series on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+ or listen to extended audio episodes wherever you get your podcasts. hulumurdaughpod.com. LUNASHARK Premium Members are also getting access to a wealth of additional content matched to each Hulu series episode… We’re calling it LUNA VISION! Soak up The Sun Members get to explore the case documents, new case videos, ad-free video episodes, invitations to live events and so much more.  Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more.  Premium Members also get bonus episodes like our Premium Dives, Corruption Watchlist, Girl Talk, and Soundbites that help you Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Here's a link to some of our favorite things: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** * All statements reflect the hosts’ analysis and opinions based on publicly available information and official public records.  For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/mandy_matney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   |   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia * All statements reflect the hosts’ analysis and opinions based on publicly available information and official public records.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Terms apply. Was Elyke actually shot? Oh, yeah, yay. Remember calling the helicopter place this, Mandy? Yes. I forgot about all of the weird details during this time because it was just so insane. Again, within a couple weeks,

it went from a double homicide investigation to like 17 investigations, like, Gloria Satterfield's death was reopened around that same time. Eric was uncovering everything within the Satterfield settlement, and that was another criminal investigation. And then we found out all this money was suddenly missing from PMPED, and that was another investigation. It was so insane. But then the craziest part was all of this was coming out because of this roadside shooting debacle, which was just so crazy. but I remember a couple things that were so weird about the day that he was shot and putting the pieces together of what went down.

First of all, we heard, remember that we heard that he was shot in the leg? There was leg and head. Yeah, leg and head, and then there was a knife. I think we found that out pretty quickly, right? Yes. I don't remember how. But do you remember during the trial, and I think we've probably said this in an episode too, but Creighton, I believe it was, brought up that like when,

ELEC goes to solve problems, they have a pattern and they end up making things worse for them. Yeah. So like, it's like when. Yeah, right. When things are going bad in Eleg's life, he resorts to an act of violence. Yeah. And like it had the same like and then trying to like the knife was thrown while Maggie's phone was thrown. Like there were just these like parallels between the two incidents at that time that were just like, yeah, that is his, that is sort of his problem solving go to. And I forgot about this. Both times he was confronted by somebody about him stealing money right before he made this decision. So like the double homicide, he was confronted by G.D. Secondger, like, where's all the money in this case? And then I believe the second time it was Chris Wilson,

right? Didn't Chris Wilson go to his... They actually, it was the same case in both instances, but in the second one, they found proof that he was lying about the first. So basically, like, They found out he was lying because his paralegal found or his secretary found the check, the canceled check, the $750,000. And then that caused, because they saw it was made out to forge. And they were like, wait a minute. So they called the real forge. And they were like, I have no idea.

And so that's when they went and started going through his cases. And that's what happened before the shooting. It's never not funny and just terrible all the way around. But do you remember that I don't. I don't remember if it was the people that picked him up or they had something to do with it, but there was a reality show that had been filmed out of Yemisee years earlier called like when the women left town. And one of the people who either stopped for Ehrlich or helped Eleg, I don't remember if they were the ones that ended up driving him, but they were on that show.

Yeah, there was a lot of weird. And wasn't there a baby involved? Yes, they didn't want. I think that was maybe the first people that stopped and couldn't, Or they stopped and said, we'll only take you this far, right? Right. Do they have to, like, move their kids?

I can't remember. There's something because they didn't want him sitting in the back with his kid. Yeah, I don't want you sitting in the back with my baby. Did they make him get in the trunk? No. Was it the way back? I can't remember. I'm actually happy that we can't remember this

because it means that we have other things in our heads now. Yeah. There's no other word to describe. It was just insane. It was just the craziest, most absurd story. story from beginning to end because it's like his lawyers are saying he was on his way to Charleston. Well, where he was found is the opposite of way to Charleston. His lawyers are saying that he had a flat tire and was changing it.

And all of Hampton is telling me right now that he's never changed a flat tire in his life and that he has run flat tires. And I was working for the sheriff's office at the time and I kept getting flat like flat tires on my of infinity and I knew about run flat tires because I was so angry at how much they cost to replace them and they explained they had just explained to me why my tires cost more and they're called run flats and all luxury vehicles at that time came with them on so when I saw the Mercedes I was like they don't have regular tires right yeah and I didn't even know what a run flat tire was that was one of the many things that I've learned about life through this story

what front flat tires are. I don't know if anyone shot Elyke Murdoch, but law enforcement recently released three 911 calls in the alleged shooting, which frankly raise more questions than answers in this endless Southern saga. My name is Mandy Matney, and I've been investigating the Murdoch family

for more than two and a half years now, and this is the Murdoch Murdoch's podcast. Previously on the Mardock murders podcast, on September 4th, 2021, which was the Saturday of Labor Day weekend, Ehrlich Murdoch was allegedly shot. Almost immediately, sources close to the situation told me that ELEC's story was suspicious and not adding up. The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, which is the same agency that is investigating nearly all of the alleged crimes associated with the Murdoch family, released a statement the day after the shooting that said that Eleg's head wound was superficial. They never called him a victim. They never gave any suspect descriptions of the shooter.

And they kept their statement simple, which to me was a hint that the story that the Murdoch camp was feeding the media was false. Around the same time, Alec Murdoch's lawyers, Dick Harputtlian, and Jim Griffin started to embark on a week-long spin campaign in an attempt to control the narrative and make Ehrlich appear like the victim. They repeatedly fed the media a story that did not make sense, that Ehrlich was changing a tire on the side of a rural Hampton County road when a man drove up to him and shot him. And then things got weirder. On Labor Day, that would be two days after the alleged shooting incident, a family spokesperson released. a statement saying that Ehrlich Murdoch was going into rehab and resigning from the law firm built by his family, and that would be P-M-P-E-D. So keep in mind, the Murdoch camp was really pushing this opioid addict storyline hard right after the alleged shooting, which they'd never done

before. On that same day, P-M-P-E-D, the law firm started by Eleg's great-grandfather in 1910 released a statement to the media claiming that Ehrlich Murdoch misappropriated millions of dollars from their law firm. So on that same week, which would still be days after the Labor Day alleged shooting, the South Carolina Supreme Court suspended Ehrlich Murdoch from practicing law due to evidence of misconduct that is under investigation. The next day, which would be September 8th, 2021, a few days after the shooting, sources close to the situation told us that police recovered the knife that slashed Elyke Murdoch's tires from the alleged shooting scene, and that knife was connected to Ehrlich Murdoch.

Murdoch's attorneys claimed that Ehrlich had an entry and exit wound and was temporarily blinded in the shooting. They also told reporters that he was released from the hospital two days after the alleged shooting, so which is it? Was it a serious injury, or was he released two days later? The injuries certainly were not the only holes poked in the stories coming from the Murdoch camp this month. They told reporters that Ehrlich was airlifted to MUSC in Charleston, but he was actually flown to a hospital in Savannah. They told reporters that Ehrlich was changing a tire on the side of the road, but the Mercedes-Benz SUV had run flat tires that he was driving

that day. They told reporters that Ehrlich was on his way to Charleston from Moselle, but the road what he was on was out of the way from that route. We appeared to be the only media outlet holding the lawyers to account and calling out their lies. Everybody else was just running around acting like it was a normal thing. However, the Murdoch spin campaign was abruptly thrown off course on September 10th when sled officials arrested 61-year-old Curtis Eddie Smith. Smith was hit with several serious charges, including assisted suicide, assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature, pointing and presenting a firearm, insurance fraud, and conspiracy to commit insurance fraud. In the arrest warrants, we learned that Ellick Murdoch

admitted to setting up a suicide scheme so his son Buster could collect a $10 million insurance policy. News of Eddie Smith's arrest broke late at night on September 10th, around 11 p.m. But just hours later, Dick Harputlian appeared on the Today Show the next morning, where he continued to push this opioid narrative. Harputin claimed that Murdoch was trying to get off opioids on the morning of September 4th and decided to end his life. He called this guy who met him on the side of the road, agreed to shoot him in the head, and this fake car breakdown. 30 minutes later, this guy's shooting him in the head.

However, Eddie Smith's attorney tells a totally different story about what happened on September 4th, 2021. He received a call from Alec Murdoch that asked if he could go to Mr. Murdoch's house and said to bring the truck, which was the, he understood to mean his work truck. And that work truck made Eddie believe that, well, he was coming to do some kind of odd job. And that's where he first encounters Mr. Murdoch in a suicidal, very agitated state. Ronald was requesting that Eddie has essentially assisted him in shooting. It wanted Eddie to shoot at that time, to which he refused. and the state of Mr. Murdoch

continued to deteriorate and there was a struggle for the weapon that went off at some point and he left the scene and Mr. Murdoch was still there with no visible signs of injury. Now two days after Smith was charged, Ehrlich was also charged with three felonies

in this alleged suicide for hire scheme. Less than two weeks after the alleged shooting, Alec Murdoch showed up at the bond hearing without a scratch on his head. This raised all sorts of suspicions in the public eye. Was Elyke Murdoch ever even shot? While Elyke Murdoch's bond was set at $20,000, Smith, on the other hand, was set at $55,000 cash.

In Hampton County Court that week, we watched two systems of justice play out in live action, one for people like Ehrlich Murdoch and one for people like Eddie Smith. On Friday, October 22nd, the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, also known as SLED, released three 911 calls from the alleged Alec Murdoch shooting on September 4th, 2021. We're going to walk you through all 13 minutes of these calls. The first call we will play is from two witnesses who passed by.

Ehrlich Murdoch by himself on the side of Salcahatchie Road in Hampton County, South Carolina, which is about 80 miles west of Charleston, South Carolina. Yes, we're on Sakaheachie Road, and there is a male on the side of road with him. So he's all over and he's waving his hands? He just laying there, fleeting his hands around? He looks fine, but it kind of looks like a setup, so we didn't stop. Oh, I don't blame you. So here, the woman is saying that she saw a man on the side of the road

waving his hands with blood all over him, but she said that it looked like a setup. And the operator, in response, says, I don't blame you for not stopping. What area of soccer hat you rode are you on? Where area? All working, kids. We're like halfway down. I don't know how Hatchie Road. Okay, all right.

And this was shortly after you turned off of Waterborough, coming across Waltonboro Highway, or? Let me pull over so I can look at my GPS. Okay, can I'm trying. Yeah, I'm trying to pull up a location as well on your phone. Um, I know that we, we bear to the left. There's what's called a Sylvester Road. Yes, Sylvester Road.

Okay, when you bear to the left there, Uh-huh. He's probably two miles down. Okay, about two miles from the Sylvester Road bear off? That's roughly, yeah. Roughly, okay, all right. Well, let me get my deputies in that area to see what's going on with. Can you give me a description of that mail?

So what's weird about this? The Hampton 911 operator says that she is dispatching Hampton County deputies here. While we don't know what time Ms. Call was placed, it was likely around the same time or slightly after Ellick Murdoch called 911, which was at 134 p.m. The Hampton County Sheriff's Office wasn't even dispatched to the scene until 12 minutes after Ellick placed that 9-1-1 call, which is very odd considering that they labeled the call an attempted murder in the police report. It took Hampton County deputies more than an hour to arrive on scene at Salcahatchie Road. I'm going to say he's probably in his 40s.

Okay. He's not very large, but he's kind of heavy-set. A white hair and it's a black, some kind of SUV, like a smaller Kia SUV or something. Uh-huh. Kia. And it stopped where he's at? Say what? You said that SUV is stopped where he's at?

I couldn't understand what you said. The SUV is right where he's at as well? He's pulled over on the side of the road. There's no damage to the SUV. He's got the housing lights on. Okay. The truck of it was outside. Okay, all right.

Well, let me get my deputies headed that area. What's your name and a good contact number for you? Bill, I have my adolph deputies headed out that way, okay? All right. So thank you. No problem. Bye-bye. But again, it took Hampton County deputies more than an hour to arrive on scene,

which raises several questions. What took them so long to dispatch deputies to the scene and what took them so long to get there? Hampton is not that big. I like Murdoch first called Hampton County 911 at 134 p.m. September 4th. Here is the beginning of that call. Salkahatchie Road. Okay.

What's the address on Salkahatchy Road? I'm by the church. What church here? What church are you talking about? I don't know the name of it with the red roof. Okay. What end of Salka Hatchel Road? Because I don't know what you're talking about.

At the Hantley County side. Okay. What's going on? I got a flat tire, and I stopped, and somebody stopped to help me, and when I turned my back, they tried to shoot me. Oh, okay, will you shot? Yes, but I mean, I'm okay. You shot, where were you shot at?

As early as 49 seconds into Alex's first call, we realized that a second 911 operator is speaking with the bystanders. The 911 calls are happening simultaneously. you said. Huh? Did they actually shoot you or they tried to shoot you? They shot me. But, okay, wait, you need EMS?

Well, I mean, yes, I can't drive. Okay. And I'm bleeding a lot. A couple things here. Alex Chana Voice sounds more like he's ordering pizza than reporting to 911 that he was shot in the head by an unknown assailant. Second, he tells the 911 operator, that his tire was flat before he says that he was shot in the head.

Third, Elyke does not in any way appear to be afraid of the alleged shooter. And finally, he doesn't sound like he's in any pain whatsoever. Where part of your body? I'm not sure. Somewhere on my head. Your head? Somebody just stopped from me, ma'am. For 911.

Okay. Still? Hey. Okay, let me speak to him see if he can tell me. exactly where you are. Where are you talking about? Right here by this church. I don't open that church.

Okay. Red roof. Yeah, hurry, please. Uh-huh. Okay, and what's your name? Okay, and what's your name? Okay, and what's your name? I'm still here.

I'm still here. I'm still on the line with you. What's your name? Alex Murdoch. Alex Murdoch? Yes, ma'am. And you see you. were driving you got a flat tire somebody stopped to help you and they shot you well they pull over

yes man like they were going to help me okay still in the line with me we're going to get some i'm bleeding pretty bad okay still john's missionary church spent john missionary church yes ma'am okay and can you give me a description of the person that shot you or shot at you yes ma'am I It was a white fellow, I'd say, a white male, a fair amount younger than me, a fair amount younger than me, a really, really short hair. I have an ambulance coming in there. Yes, sir, yes, sir. Stay on the line, I got them on the way. Here, Ehrlich Murdoch is describing the man who allegedly shot him.

But here's the thing. This man Ehrlich is describing is completely different from the man who sled arrested for shooting Elyke Murdoch, who is Curtis Eddie Smith. Eddie Smith looks much older than Ehrlich. He is 61 years old while Ehrlich is 53. He does not have short hair. He has long, curly hair. And we're going to talk to Curtis's attorneys about this later in this episode, but it's something to take note of. And something else, he quickly changes the subject. He really seems to not

want to answer questions about who allegedly shot him. He appears to want to get off the phone. You think one of y'all can drive me to the hospital? Yes, sir. You want to get the trunk, though, because I got a baby and need to get my back. Do you think one of y'all could get in this car and drive me? Oh, yes, uh, can't. They're going to drive me to the hospital. Ellick Murdoch is apparently flagging down two people who were on Old Saucahatchi Road that afternoon. He asked them if they can drive him to the hospital. One of them says that they have a baby in the backseat and he would have to ride in the trunk.

But without mentioning that he's bloody or anything like that. Apparently the call drops and that's the end of the call. Then Ehrlich placed a second 911 call. This is four minutes after he first placed a call. called a 911. At the beginning of that call, you can hear him instructing another person on how to start his car. Yeah, it should be cranked, isn't it? It should be cranked. Okay, now it is. 911, where's your emergency? Yes, me. My law is. This young lady is driving me to the hospital. She's carrying you to the hospital? Yes, me.

Okay. And who is this? This is Alec Murdoch. I was on the phone a minute ago. Okay. All right. He said this, somebody's taking him to the hospital. Okay. Oh, you know what?

We got a flat tie. Got two, ten-twile. Ma'am, I need the ambulance. You need the ambulance? Okay. Are you still in the same location? Yes, ma'am. Okay.

Which way are you heading? Are you all driving down the road? No, ma'am. I got a flat tie. Okay, all right, sit tight right there, okay? Ma'am. Okay, yes, sir, we're still here. We're still here.

Hold on, we're dispatching now, giving them information. Where are you at? I want to get this all over your talk. All right, now they're taking me to the hospital. Okay, so where are y'all traveling? We're coming down South Hatchie Road to the Hampton Hospital. Y'all coming down, Salkaheachie? Ma'am.

Y'all coming down Salkaheahe Road to the hospital? Yes, ma'am. Okay. They sit. They said that they're coming down. They're coming down. They're coming down. Stop to go ahead and towards the hospital.

All right. We're going to keep EMS and route to you, okay? Okay. It seems as though they're driving a white Nissan, which is not his vehicle. Are you coming off of Walterbury Highway? We'll be at Waterbury Highway in. highway in of 10 minutes or so. They said in about 10 minutes or said they'll be in Waterford Highway.

What kind of vehicle are you in? A white Nissan Road. It's a white Nissan Road. And y'all still heading down the road, Mr. Murdoch? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Y'all still heading down the road? Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Okay. And what's a good callback for you, Mr. Murdoch? We're at Leipzig Crossroads now. You're at Likesy Crossroads now? Good, Judge. Okay. Okay.

Okay. I'm going to be advised down one of our highway in a white Nissan rogue, white Nissan Rogue. Is the flasters on? Do you have the... This is still going to take you to the hospital? This time this is no, this is those 10-17 to the hospital. Mayor? You're still on the...

Okay. Y'all still 17? Do you have your flashers on, on the vehicle? Is the flasters on? Is the flasers on? Yes. Yes. Hotel 12.

Their location by the individual has been in the escort of the hospital. Tim, they're on Waterbury Highway. We see the ambulance, so we go pull over. Okay. Telling we in a white car. They're in a white Nissan rogue on Waterbury Highway. They are pulling over. They see the EMS.

Okay, do you, y'all stop? I see them. You're at Waterbury Highway and where? They're here. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna hang you up now. Okay, then you...

At this point, it's at least 10 minutes after Elyke Murdoch initially called 911 and he was getting into an ambulance, and the plan was to take him to the Hampton Hospital. Care flight officials told me that the medical helicopter that transported Elyke Murdoch from a landing zone, about seven miles from the alleged shooting scene was dispatched at 143 p.m., approximately nine minutes after Ehrlich Murdoch called 911. So who called a medical helicopter for Ehrlich Murdoch when he apparently had minor injuries? And was Ehrlich intentionally trying to divert law enforcement away from the scene? An eyewitness at the scene of the helicopter landing showed me pictures that were timestamped and said that the helicopter landed at the scene along Charleston Highway and Varnville around 2.15 p.m. And the helicopter left around 2.25 p.m. The helicopter, which is based

in Colleton County, transported Ellic Murdoch to the hospital in Savannah, Georgia. This leads to so many questions. Again, who called the medical helicopter and why isn't that apparent on these 911 phone calls. And what was the point of all of this? Was he trying to end his life? Was he trying to get drugs at the hospital? Was he trying to do something to get the public to feel sorry for him? Or did he want people to believe that drug dealers were after him and his family? Or was all of this just a big distraction from the double homicide investigation? The 911 calls unfortunately didn't answer any of those questions. And neither did the few pages of medical records released by Alec's defense team last week.

I don't trust those records and am not going to waste my time analyzing them. We can clearly hear that Ehrlich was not suffering after this alleged shooting and he told the dispatcher that he is fine. So what does this mean for Eddie Smith? After the 911 calls were released, I took another look at the arrest warrants against Eddie Smith, the man charged in this alleged shooting, and I noticed something.

The arrest warrants contain everything we know so far about Sled's case against Eddie Smith, and it's concerning to see that Eleg's statement appears to make up a lot of the backbone of those affidavits, at least from what we can see. Ehrlich has proven to be completely unreliable, so why was his statement even mentioned in those arrest warrants? And another thing, Ehrlich was supposed to be the mastermind behind this operation. Why is he facing significantly less time in prison than Eddie, who is charges five felonies and two drug counts related to the search warrant in this case?

Eddie faces up to 65 years in prison for charges related to the assisted suicide scheme, while Ehrlich only faces 20. From what we know, the only thing Eddie has admitted to is being there on old Salcahatchi Road and disposing of the gun afterwards. Curtis has told his attorney and multiple media outlets that he wrestled the gun away from Ellick and the gun went off but did not hit him. So does Slead have any more evidence against Eddie Smith? In the last two weeks, I've had a lot of long conversations with one of Eddie Smith's attorneys,

Johnny McCoy. McCoy has spent most of his career fighting for the wrongfully accused, including himself. In 2009, when he was a young attorney, McCoy was wrongfully arrested himself by Columbia South Carolina police officers in Five Points, which is a popular bar district downtown. Video evidence shows McCoy asking Columbia police officers why they were arresting his friend and then officers shoving him multiple times before placing him under arrest. He was charged with resisting arrest and forced to spend a night in jail at the same detention center where Ellick Murdoch is now. During that time he was in jail, he watched a man hang himself. Those few hours in jail forever changed McCoy's life. While dealing with scars that just won't heal,

McCoy became determined to use his law degree for good and fight for those who had been wronged by the system. He eventually won a $300,000 settlement with the City of Columbia, which he then used to start his own law practice. In one of McCoy's cases, he won over $11 million in a civil rights lawsuit involving a Myrtle Beach man named Julian Benton. Beton was shot nine times by police officers while inside his home. I plan on getting into more details of that case in a later episode,

but y'all need to understand that McCoy comes from a different place than most defense attorneys. So I started this conversation by asking McCoy what he thought of the 911 call. I mean, Alex Murdoch said that the guy who shot him was quite a bit younger than him. We all know that Curtis is 61 years old, that he was, had very, very short hair, which we all know. Curtis has got those beautiful golden locks. And, I mean, at the end of the day, you're watching a mass manipulating liar con man lying. You're listening to him create a false narrative right in front of your eyes. And for Sleve to say, okay, okay.

Right, right. But this time, the second story, he said it was a confession. So, you know, the guy looks like, you know, the guy looks like a godlike figure. So if he's saying, all right, this is my confession. If this, then it must be true. And that is the craziest thing I've ever heard of as a criminal defense lawyer to think that an individual in a position of power can literally say, this guy did something to me. that they don't like this guy did something to me and that person to just be be arrested based on their words and their words alone with nothing i mean there's evidence to the contrary there's not even evidence obviously showing that anything Alex Murdoch said was the truth there's evidence to the contrary all the way through it there are no text messages there are no phone calls there's no you know scheme drawn out on maps there's no discussion about it he was Alex Murdoch was making it up as he went along, including the calling Eddie to the sea. He was making it up as he goes along. And the entire goal was to make himself a victim and to change the public's perception of him as,

you know, this guy who's out killing and shooting and doing all these other things, uh, into somebody who is, you know, he is on the back into violence. And when you think of it that way, you start to understand that this guy got his ultimate goal. What's the ultimate goal? The narrative changed and then what's the secondary ultimate goal? Opioids in his veins. And he did both. He did both on the side of the road. After pursuing justice for his clients and himself in South Carolina for more than a decade, McCoy has earned a unique perspective on inequity in our court system. He gets frustrated that the sword of justice seems to be swinging, but the scale is as

unbalanced as ever. This is business as usual in the state of South Carolina when it comes to powerful people versus, quote-unquote, nobody's. I was a nobody, Julianne Benton was a nobody, Curtis Smith was a nobody.

But not anymore. Not anymore. The only thing that's changed in the course of this case after the Today Show interview and all the other stuff that's been brought to life is these people in positions of power

are starting to second guess who we can pick off. Who's our next victim? Can we continue going after no names? And that's the message that we hope to have sense to the people in powerful positions who are ensuring that nobody's watching the watchers, that the watchers are finally going to be watched. And they're going to have to answer

for what they've been doing around the state of South Carolina. And they're going to have to answer for what they did to come. Curtis Smith and Julian Benton and me. They're going to have to answer for it, finally. And that, to them, is completely foreign because they have never, ever had to answer. Well, what happened with the Johnny McCoy investigation? What happened with the Julian Bent investigation?

What's going on to Curtis Smith investigation? So for the first time ever, on a national scale, the country is seeing either gross incompetence or in on it. and I don't think that they're going to be able to just get away with business as usual after this. We hope to learn more information about the Eddie Smith case in the next few weeks. Stay tuned to the Murdoch Martyrs podcast for the latest updates. Follow me on Twitter at Mandy Matney, that's M-A-N-D-Y-M-A-T-N-E-Y, and follow me on Instagram at Mandy underscore Matney for more updates.

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awesome content every day. And don't forget to leave a five-star review unless you're going to be nasty and talk about my vocal fright. The Murdoch Murder's podcast is created by me, Mandy Vatney, and my Beyonce, David Moses. Produced by Luna Shark Productions. One question, though, do you think Cousin Eddie is telling the truth about what happened that day? I think so. I mean, I think I'll be blunt. Like, I think Cousin Eddie's version makes a heck of a lot more sense than Elex ever did. I do not think that there is a world where Ehrlich would have ever actually wanted to kill himself and in things. That's not a with his personality whatsoever.

He is a guy that makes lots of, again, trying to solve a problem. He makes the problems bigger. That's what he does. He does not think about, in some ways, like, the thought of killing yourself, I just don't think that it would have ever crossed his mind. But, yeah, I mean, I think that, what do you think happened? I think he was trying to set up, set it up to look like an attempted murder. And that was that.

So I don't know if Eddie is telling the child. truth, I accept that, you know, Eddie might be trying to protect himself because the charge might be worse, you know, I don't know. But do I think he was fixing to kill Ellick and, you know, a fake suicide? No, I do not. Not at all. Yeah, I mean, looking back, I, it makes the most sense that he was trying to set up Eddie to look like a suspect in the double homicide because, and also that was the initial reaction from most people when they heard that he was shot. Everybody except for us, was saying, oh, no, somebody must be out to get them.

Oh, no, oh, no. And then it was the Cowboys. And then the description of the guy was almost like Anthony Cook. So the nice guy, the nice fella. The nice fella. And also, we found out during trial that SLED was ramping up their investigation into Eleg Murdoch at this time. And they were refusing to say that he was not a suspect.

and they were refusing to say, like, he's cleared from this, and that was making, like, increasingly stress and probably using more drugs. But, yeah, what a dumb decision. And my fiance, David Moses. Produced by Luna Shark Productions.