Murdaugh Murders Podcast - MMP Remastered #19 - Alex Murdaugh Charged With 27 New Felonies And Why That Is A Big Deal

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

When this episode first aired in November 2021, it marked a defining moment in the Murdaugh investigation — and in the evolution of The Murdaugh Murders Podcast. For the first time, journalist Liz... Farrell joined Mandy Matney, transforming what had begun as a one-woman pursuit of truth into a powerhouse partnership built on trust, tenacity, and shared purpose. On Friday, November 19th, 2021 we learned that prosecutors issued 27 additional felony charges against Alex Murdaugh bringing the total possible jail time to over a hundreds years and our sources believe that could be just the beginning. In this special edition we'll review the 27 new counts and expand on the implications as we introduce our new partner in true crime. Liz was there when Mandy first discovered inconsistencies in the only document recorded in the Satterfield settlement which blew the lid off a saga like no other.You'll also hear a moment between Mandy and Eric Bland in which he explains all the dominos that had to fall in order for Murdaugh's litany of crimes to come to light. Listen now to the episode that changed everything — the moment The Murdaugh Murders Podcast became a movement for truth and justice. Lots to cover, so let's dive in... 🥽🦈 🔗 Watch ⁠Murdaugh: Death in the Family⁠ — now streaming on Hulu and Disney+ 🔗 Watch the ⁠MDITF Official Companion Podcast⁠ featuring interviews with the cast, crew, and creators behind the series on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+ or listen to extended audio episodes wherever you get your podcasts. ⁠hulumurdaughpod.com⁠. LUNASHARK Premium Members are also getting access to a wealth of additional content matched to each Hulu series episode… We’re calling it LUNA VISION! Soak up The Sun Members get to explore the case documents, new case videos, ad-free video episodes, invitations to live events and so much more.  Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more.  Premium Members also get bonus episodes like our Premium Dives, Corruption Watchlist, Girl Talk, and Soundbites that help you Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Here's a link to some of our favorite things: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠info@lunasharkmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/mandy_matney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   |   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 When I look back at my younger self, I remember the feeling of being bullied and disrespected. I remember hating that feeling, and I remember the day that I resolved that it would never happen again. When I founded Blan Richter with my partner, Ronnie Richter, we committed to build a firm that demanded respect that would fight for the powerful on behalf of the clients who felt powerless. Since forming Blan Richter, we've stood tall against the largest law firms in the state in the country, and in the world, and we've remained true to the commitment not to be pushed around to give tenacious representation with proven results. Tenacious representation, proven results, Bland Richter. Learn more about what we do and who we are by visiting blandrictor.com. That's B-L-A-N-D-R-I-C-H-E-R dot com.
Starting point is 00:01:00 When this episode first aired on November 19, 2021, everything started to shift for both the story and me. Up to that point, I had been chasing the Murdoch investigation, mostly on my own, publicly at least, but bringing Liz Farrell on as my co-host changed everything. I had been carrying the weight of this story with Liz for years, but privately. It was something between us that we took care to nurture. Liz and I began investigating long before there was a podcast. She is my mentor and the person who taught me what real investigative journalism looks like. Liz wasn't just my best friend.
Starting point is 00:01:44 She was the person who really taught me what real accountability looks like too. Together, we started connecting the dots no one dared to see, and that partnership propelled our reporting to a new level. But Liz left news for a bit to pursue a related career in the public sector of government, specifically in a role called public information officer, or PIO. A PIO is usually our first stop on our investigative processes when police departments or bad governance leads to crime and corruption. If you've listened to True Sunlight Podcasts, then you know that we've engaged with PIOs at the AG's office, at county councils, at sheriff's office, and a number of other places, funded with public money. They are supposed to deliver unfraid of Information Act requests,
Starting point is 00:02:33 provide a conduit to information whether good, bad, or in a number of ORI County cases, very, very ugly. The timing for Liz and I to reunite had to be perfect, as Liz had been working as P.I.O for Buford County and P.I.O. for the Buford County Sheriff's Office. And by the way, she was so good at that. Too good, almost, because she wanted to be an advocate for transparency versus running cover for her agencies. She wanted them to actually be better for the taxpayers. But as we started to drown in the murky waters of South Carolina corruption, Liz was inspired to leave public service and join the ranks of our team to expose the truth wherever it leads, give voice to victims, and get the story straight. Bringing her on was not
Starting point is 00:03:22 a strategy, it was survival. I knew if we were going to keep exposing the truth about the Murdoch Empire we needed both of our voices, because accountability journalism does not have to be a solo act. And while David's voice pops up from time to time, we wanted two female journalists leading this charge, and charge we did. The 19th episode is where the investigation stopped being a whisper and started echoing across the globe. Also, Anne's spectacularly, the 19th Amendment, which granted women the right to vote nationally, just happens to coincide numerically with this episode. Looking back now, I see how the addition of Liz marked the beginning of something bigger.
Starting point is 00:04:08 The moment when our podcast became a true force for justice, something that we now call active journalism. That Satterfield Settlement document changed everything, not just for the Satterfield family, for me as a journalist. Finding it reminded me that the truth often hides in plain sight, buried in systems that count on people not looking closely. It became my North Star, proof that even one person, with persistence in a laptop, can crack open an empire by being pesky. There were nights when I cried out of frustration, seeing the same good old boy patterns repeating, but I learned to turn that anger into fuel. Journalism at its best,
Starting point is 00:04:50 gives power back to the people who have been ignored and silenced. Every episode was a way for us to take back that power. Eric Bland's words hit hard in this episode. You never think of your work as world-changing. You just chase the truth. But when he said that Gloria's death wasn't in vain, I realized the ripple effect of this work. It wasn't just a story.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It was justice in motion. Here is Liz Farrell's debut on the Murdoch-Murdock murders podcast, number 19. ELEC Murdoch charged with 27 new felonies and why that is a big deal. I don't know how many crimes Elyke Murdoch will be charged in, but this week the disgraced South Carolina attorney was hit with 27 felony charges. And that is a very big deal. My name is Mandy Matney, and I've been investigating the Murdoch family for the last two and a half years. This is the Murdoch Murder's podcast.
Starting point is 00:06:04 So this is a week of Thanksgiving, and I have a lot of people to thank this year, starting out with our supporters for the Murdoch Murdoers podcast. You all have helped lead us to this incredibly exciting moment that is honestly a dream come true for me. Today, live from the kitchen table studio, I want to introduce you to our new Murdoch Murders podcast co-host, Liz Beryl. Liz is my best friend, role model, former workwife, and forever partner in true crime. Liz taught me everything I know about investigative journalism. She was there with me at the beginning of the story on day one, which was February 24, 2019, the day that Mallory Beach died. Together, we started polling at strings as we investigated
Starting point is 00:06:51 the tangled web of the Murdoch family in Hampton County. Liz was sitting across from me on the day that we now know was so important, the day that I found the one public document connected with the Satterfield Settlement. We had heard a lot about the Murdoch family and their influence. We were told by our law enforcement sources. Yes, there are good cops in the low country, that it was already looking like the fix was in on the boat crash investigation. When Mandy first found that filing, the words wrongful death obviously rang alarm bells. And it was exciting from a journalist's perspective that our team had discovered a new angle. But more than that, it was another example of why Mandy is such a good journalist and stands
Starting point is 00:07:34 apart for most. She will go the distance and look under every rock to make sure she is getting to the truth of a situation. Mandy's immediate instinct was that something wasn't right with the filing. As we learned more about Ellick, there was a clear conflict of interest in who was representing the Satterfield family, Ehrlich's friend, Corey Fleming. But we had no idea at that time just how much this one document would end up changing the entire course of Ehrlich Murdoch's story. Without that moment of Mandy discovering that filing and writing about it, this past Friday never would have happened.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Friday was a pivotal moment in the Murdoch Murder Saga, and a day that many of us weren't sure would ever come. We ended the last episode that came out just a few days ago on a cliffhanger about how the South Carolina grand jury was convening in Columbia, South Carolina to discuss matters related to the Murdoch murders. And then Friday came, and Alec Murdoch was indicted on more than two dozen counts. He stands accused of stealing a total of nearly $5 million from the family of Gloria Satterfield and three clients, including a South Carolina Highway Patrolman, who was injured in the line of duty, according to indictments released on Friday.
Starting point is 00:08:48 So when I first heard the news on Friday, of course, one of the first people I spoke to was Eric Bland, the attorney who has represented Satterfield's family since September and uncovered a paper trail that blew the story wide open. Lady Justice has been busy the past month for him. Since 2015, he's been practicing steel and not practicing law, and he has. Because you've got to work to do that. That takes some thought. That takes some work.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And you can't be a lawyer and their thief like that and do it both well. So he chose to do thievery well. Ehrlich Murdoch faces 27 new charges in five indictments that were handed down by the South Carolina grand jury this week. Those new indictments include seven counts of money laundering, seven counts of obtaining a signature or property by false pretences, Eight counts of computer crimes, one count of forgery, and four counts of breach of trust with fraudulent intent. The 27 counts are a result of a multi-agency state-level investigation involving the South Carolina State Grand Jury, the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, the FVII, and the South Carolina Attorney General's Office. But these are all state charges, which is interesting because the financial crimes are usually investigated by the feds.
Starting point is 00:10:12 and prosecuted by the feds. I asked Eric Blaine about this. He gave such a black guy to this state. I think it's a combination of his, you know, prosecutorial background. It's a little bit of a payback, you know, probably against, you know, in a way, his law firm and how they have, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:35 created this, what's called the judicial hellhole there. whether there's payback or I think it's just the state saying we don't want a lawyer stealing like this and certainly not a prosecutor who comes from a long line of prosecutors we're going to establish law and order the way it should be
Starting point is 00:10:59 and it's happening I mean it is you know like we said in our statement this morning you know when the dam of justice breaks it starts to come like a mighty river. In a lot of ways, the charges were shocking, and they made me and Eric Bland really sit back and realize that this is much deeper than anyone could have ever imagined, and that this
Starting point is 00:11:23 is just the beginning. I can tell you that the charges are not the end. There are so many more victims, victims that I've seen, I've seen the checks. So there are more victims there. there are more charges coming. And, you know, it's a strong statement that should really cause Parpooleon and Griffin to really stop because the state is not expending all of these resources and all this time just to turn it over to the feds at the end of all of this. The state of South Carolina is making a statement here.
Starting point is 00:12:13 This is Alec Murdoch. I need police and an ambulance immediately. Murdoch, Death in the Family Official Podcast, is here. I'm joining Patricia Arquette, Jason Clark, and the cast to uncover all things Murdoch. Family first. To unravel the story piece by piece was really surprising because you don't want to believe it. Murdoch, Death in the Family Official Podcast, Wednesdays. and stream Murdoch, Death in the Family on Hulu,
Starting point is 00:12:39 and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers. Terms apply. So we'll go over the five indictments and Liz will explain the meaning behind them. One of the alleged games took place in Bamber County, South Carolina, between March and July 2021. We will go over why those dates are significant.
Starting point is 00:13:00 In this scheme, Murdoch is accused of convincing an attorney from another law firm who was working on a case with him to write three checks totaling nearly $800,000 for his share of legal fees in the lawsuit. Murdoch told the attorney that he was going to structure the fees because of his civil liability in the Mallory Beach boat crash lawsuit, according to the indictment. He lied to the attorney according to the indictment and said that PMPED was aware of this. And ultimately Murdoch never structured the fees.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He just took the money himself. This indictment gives us a little more insight into ELEC's unraveling between March and July of 2021 and around the time of the murders of Maggie and Paul in June. Attorney's sources have told us that law firms like PMPED have tight controls over their accounting and that it would have been very difficult for Ehrlich to have stolen from the firm for a long time without getting caught. It appears PMPED had reason to know of ELEC's unorthodox financial practices in July at the very least. This indictment, however, only gives us a small view of what was happening while Alec's life was collapsing around him. We don't know the full scope of what the law firm knew and what they did with that information when they knew it.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And we don't know yet how many more cases there are like this. This brings us to indictment number two. Between January and May of this year, Murdoch is accused of convincing South Carolina Highway Patrol trooper Thomas Ead Moore, who was injured in the line of duty to sign over his settlement proceeds. to the Murdoch law firm, PMPED. He's also accused of falsely telling more that the money would not be available until the lawsuit was complete.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Murdoch is then accused of depositing $125,000 in settlement proceeds into the Forge account that he allegedly created to steal money from clients and others. Of all the indictments, perhaps this one speaks the most to Alex's character or lack thereof in the months leading up to the double homicide of Maggie and Paul this year.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Listen, like I said, I said it to you a couple weeks ago. There's no bottom to him. He's, you know, morally decrepit and proves it again today. He stole money from a policeman. He says solicitor, stealing money from a client that that's not bad enough. Let's just go a little deeper and steal it from a policeman. Who doesn't make a lot of money to begin with? He's going to go, you know, everybody talks about Larry Jean Bell and all these other people.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Pete Wee Gaskins and they're killers. There's no question about it. And there is a difference right now. But he's as morally bankrupt as they are. That Ellick got away with this for so long shows us just how impenetrable the Murdox position in the criminal justice system has been here. The South Carolina Highway Patrol is the same agency that was bizarrely tasked with investigating the homicide of Stephen Smith just a few years prior to this alleged theft from one of their
Starting point is 00:16:02 own. This should send an important message to the rumored Murdoch enablers in law enforcement, the ones who have allegedly received cash payments in exchange for their off-book services, the ones who are said to have assisted them in clouding up crime scenes and criminal investigations, the ones who gave them prosecutorial credentials to flash around the 14th Circuit, the ones behind the gavel who broke the rules for them or looked the other way, the ones who have allegedly bullied people from speaking their truth. This is what he thinks. Thanks of you. Now we are at the third indictment.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Between August and September 2016 in Colleton County, South Carolina, Murdoch allegedly used his prestige and reputation as a lawyer to defraud one of his clients, who was being compensated $70,000 for his injuries. According to the indictment, Murdoch convinced this man to make a $70,000 check out for, again, his structured settlement, to the infamous Forge account. And we all know what happened then. Ehrlich allegedly deposited the money into his own bank account. The fourth indictment is from the Gloria Satterfield Settlement, which we all know about.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Nine of the new charges are related to the botched Gloria Satterfield Settlement. That brings us to the fifth indictment, which is in Allendale County, between October 2015 and October 2016, Murdoch is accused of defrauding his client, a man. named Dion J. Martin out of almost $400,000 through again the forged scheme that was uncovered during the Satterfield settlement. There are a few big takeaways in these indictments. One is that the public is getting an even better view of the heads or tails reputation of the Murdoch dynasty, where on the head side the Murdochs are known for treating people with humanity and generosity. But on the tail side, they're known for seeing people as nothing more than disposable servants to their needs.
Starting point is 00:18:02 who are not worth another thought after they've served their purpose to this family. Another is that four of the five indictments handed down November 18th involved money that was allegedly stolen from clients. Three of those clients had amounts taken from them that were far less than the million-dollar settlements Murdoch's law firm was famous for. The smaller amounts are actually much more typical of regular day-to-day insurance settlements, the kind of meaningful money you might get after a setback. Money that makes a difference in your life, provides some relief in the face of injury or loss, fills a need in the family budget and helps you get back on your feet so you can get back to work. That ELEC is accused of picking pennies from the pockets
Starting point is 00:18:39 of ordinary people, most of whom didn't have the opportunities or privileges or automatic access to power that were afforded to him, shows us just what kind of selfish, dismissive, and destructive person he is. So this is obviously a lot of new information, and it's really jaw-dropping, even from those of us who have thought of Ehrlich as a bottomless pit for a very long time. Now, just an hour before details of the indictment were announced by the South Carolina Attorney General's office on Friday, Ehrlich Murdoch's attorney Jim Griffin, told the island packet, quote, this doesn't appear to add anything new to the case other than additional charges. I'm sorry, what? The depth of the new charges filed against Ehrlich Murdoch clearly contradict
Starting point is 00:19:27 Griffin's assessment. And this is yet another confusing move on behalf of Ellick-Murdock's defense team, quote-unquote, the Bulldogs, Jim Griffin, and Dick Arputtland. On November 17th, Dick Harputtlian and Jim Griffin filed a shocking motion, asking the court to dismiss the Gloria Satterfield lawsuit. Haputland and Griffin, who are now representing the disgraced attorney in multiple criminal cases and lawsuits, argued in a motion to dismiss the lawsuit saying that Gloria Satterfield's sons have been fully compensated for their alleged losses. Therefore, Ehrlich Marduk, who was allegedly the ringleader in the scheme, should not have to pay any money back. Now, for a reminder, Satterfield Sons have settled with
Starting point is 00:20:15 five parties connected to the botched wrongful death settlement since their attorneys filed a lawsuit in September. Ehrlich Murdoch is the only remaining party in that case who has not paid them a dime. And their attorneys, since they filed the lawsuit, have recovered more than $6.5 million from five other parties allegedly connected to the scheme. And this week, Harputlian and Griffin, had the, as Eric Blan puts it, Boles, to file this motion claiming basically that Ehrlich Murdoch deserves to escape civil accountability in this case because he is entitled to a credit for more than the $6 million paid. by all the other alleged settling tortfeasers.
Starting point is 00:21:00 End quote. So it probably feels like we're rewining here, but this was such a big moment on Wednesday. People were furious after everything that's come out in the glorious Satterfield settlement in the last few months, and then Eleg still wants to escape fault and not admit that he's wrong and not be held accountable. And of course, one of those people who was extremely furious on Wednesday
Starting point is 00:21:23 was Eric Blant. As you can tell, I'm a little bit upset here. I'm pissed. Not surprising. Not surprising. I told you he was going to do it. But I didn't expect the first argument that I get to keep the money because I'm declaring that the Satterfields have been fully paid. I didn't think anybody had the set of balls to actually put that in a pleading.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yes, if I took the money, I get to keep it because somebody else repaid it for me. Bland was blown away by this motion and confused as to why Dick and Jim, two previously highly respected lawyers in South Carolina, would stick their necks out for someone like Elyke Murdoch. It's just another action that you're scratching, you're left scratching your head and saying, is there a master strategy here or are they just wing in it? the bail you know the habeas corpus before the supreme court or gone in the magistrate court and the deal was already cut for the bail all this stuff you're wondering you know is he that much smarter than everybody else he sees this battlefield differently or is it really they're just winging it i could see him laughing saying hey this is great i'm going to make a motion it says plaintiff doesn't have any damage just because they've been fully paid what he didn't really think about is what I'm really saying is my thief gets the cake the money. We were all puzzled coming up with theories as to why Dick and Jim would make such a brazen, ballsy move as the eyes of the world were on this case. Here's Liz. Okay, so there are a couple of theories here. The first would be the most obvious and perhaps most despicable, and that is
Starting point is 00:23:10 Alec actually believes he doesn't owe glorious sons any money. Another theory would would be that the charges are piling up now, and this is another sign they may be exploring ways to pin the missing Satterfield money on someone else, like Ehrlich's best friend, Corey Fleming. And they want to create some space for Ehrlich's innocence in the future. Yet another theory is one that is very puzzling to us. A researcher and several lawyers believe the filing could be a Trojan horse, in that state Senator Harpoolian and Mr. Griffin know that their arguments to dismiss Ehrlich have no legal standing, and their real objective here is to delay the case.
Starting point is 00:23:48 The reason this seems so bizarre to the both of us is that it's akin to lighting your face on fire to get out of gym class when you could save everyone the drama and just say you have cramps. Is there a plan here? Because every move Dick and Jim have made in the last month has appeared to be self-inflicted.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I asked Eric Bland's question. Mike Tyson said, everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face they got punched in the face last month when that bail got denied they got punched in the face when judge hall granted the motion for a receivership they got punched in the face when judge newman denied bond for the second time they're getting punched in the face at every turn it's not their fault they didn't make up the facts now they chose to dive into this uh deep end They didn't have to. They could have just as easily have said, hey, we're representing Alex Murdoch on a limited basis on this criminal charge, dealing with the Labor Day shooting, or even the glorious out of field stuff. But they chose to dive into these civil cases, and now that they're in, it's going to be difficult for them to get out. I don't think there's a plan, by the way. I don't think there's this grand strategy that, you know, Dick sees this field.
Starting point is 00:25:12 at 30,000 feet and everybody else is down here at the 5,000 foot level. There are certainly cases that he does, and there's certainly cases that I've seen that he has pulled monkeys out of a hat and, you know, really gotten an amazing result. It just isn't going to happen here. It isn't going to happen because he can't do what he does best, which is leverage relationships and good deeds that he's done over the years and good work. You're not getting credit for that here.
Starting point is 00:25:52 There's too much sunlight. Mandy Matney is not going to let that happen. No judge is going to be the judge that signs off on stuff that happens in the darkness of a judge's chamber. It's not going to happen. He's not going to be able to plead to just one count of obtaining money by false pretenses and one count of, you know, money laundering and he's going to get three years. It's not going to happen, Mandy. The outrage, forget the rank and plow people. The bar is not going to let it happen.
Starting point is 00:26:28 We as lawyers are on trial right now, and I can't tell you how many lawyers, defense lawyers, that used to hate me and still. do because I sue lawyers, Mandy. I get phone calls and emails. Keep up the good work. Keep up the fight. They want to clean it up. They're not happy with what happens in Hampton County when their corporations and defense clients get sued. They're not happy with Alex Murdoch stealing money. I'm not. No lawyer is. It's a pollution of our profession. At Desjardin, we speak business. We speak startup funding and comprehensive game plans. We've mastered made-to-measure growth and expansion advice,
Starting point is 00:27:26 and we can talk your ear-off about transferring your business when the time comes. Because at Desjardin business, we speak the same language you do. Business. So join the more than 400,000 Canadian entrepreneurs who always already count on us and contact Desjardin today. We'd love to talk, business. The thing that doesn't get talked about enough in this case is the magnitude of state Senator Dick Harputtlian's influence. Not only legally and legislatively, not only locally and federally, but in the mainstream media too, they love them some Harpo. When you are paying
Starting point is 00:28:03 for Senator Harputlian to represent you as your attorney, you are paying for that power. He has influence over who becomes a judge, how much money sled gets in its budget, and most of all, he has access to information about ongoing investigations involving his clients that other attorneys, and public defenders especially, simply do not have. On the surface, it appears that Senator Harputtlian and Mr. Griffin were blindsided by these indictments. That now famous quote in a low-country newspaper just an hour or so before the details of the indictments were announced to the public, sure seems like they didn't know what was going on. They're audacious and desperate-seeming tacked. of late also seemed to point to an increasing inability to execute the same old tricks that have
Starting point is 00:28:43 brought them this far in their careers. If that is the case, if Alex's attorneys were truly not aware of what was happening, this is encouraging and could be another sign that the good old boy system might fall to its knees for good this time. So Eric and I had a moment on Friday as we looked back on all the dominos that had to fall in order to get to this moment, where Ehrlich is facing a lifetime of charges. Now, the stories of the Murdoch murder saga is going to be told over and over by Netflix people and documentary douchebags. I will talk about them later. And helicopter journalist from the Wall Street Journal, et cetera, et cetera. But none of them are going to include in their stories
Starting point is 00:29:30 what Eric said to me today, no matter how many times he tells them. And I don't want to to my own horn here, but I do one other small-town journalist to know that all of this started out with a couple local reporters at a dying newspaper who just shared a common instinct that something was wrong. But you did it. You. You uncovered the petition. You wrote the article. You were the spark that lit the fire. Ever carried saw your article and went to his sister Ginger, and started asking questions. And then the family asked questions, and then they
Starting point is 00:30:10 went to Mark Tinsley, and then Mark Tensley sent them to me. But Mandy Matney, you lit the spark. You took down Alex Murdoch. I couldn't have done it with him. I helped. I helped. You definitely helped. A whole lot.
Starting point is 00:30:26 But yeah, it is crazy. But also, I mean, I do give the credit, a lot of credit. No, it's a heavy. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a lots. It's a heavy thought. It is. That in your life in your lifetime, you did something that will be transformative. It will be generational. It was the right thing to do. You changed the world because you're taking a guy off the street. It was not just harming one person. He was harming a lot of different people. This is a serial criminal. A serial. A serial. A serial.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Serial thief, a serial pen slinger. I call them a pen slinger. You could call them a gunslinger. I call them a serial pen slinger. You do not know that when people don't get money and they don't get treatment for their injuries and in short of injury cases that they're not, that they're not physically or.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Really? But now, you know, I was with them yesterday. And I will tell you this. money has away obviously making a thousand wounds but they're smiling because they do realize that their sister this quote housekeeper that everybody likes to just call a housekeeper didn't die in vain Mallory Beach didn't die in vain they were responsible their deaths for bringing down Alex Murdoch how many more people would he have continued to victimize yeah absolutely and again I'm not sharing this because I want praise.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I'm sharing this because oftentimes the good old boys make people like me feel like bringing down an entire system is so impossible and way too complicated. But at the heart of it, it isn't. And I say this because I know a lot of journalists are out there listening and I want them to know that they too can change the world. Every day, journalists have choices. They can take the easy route. The story spoon-fed by a defense attorney because you know you will need him for quotes in other spoon-fed stories later on. Or you can take on the story that makes you proud when you go to bed every night. The story that you can't shake until the truth is out.
Starting point is 00:32:46 The story that can change an entire justice system and make people's lives better. The story that can change the world if you don't give up. I hope you take the hard story. I hope that you too change the world. through the goodness of your heart and the power of your voice. There are so many questions that we have to answer in this never-ending Murdoch murder saga. Who killed Maggie and Paul? Who killed Stephen?
Starting point is 00:33:14 What happened to Gloria? How many victims are out there? He's loaded up to it, you know, over hundreds of years of time. This is even before you get to the end of the white-collar crimes. there's other victims Mandy I have seen the checks that have come from the murder law firm
Starting point is 00:33:36 to forge there's individual bank accounts that have not been publicly discussed so we haven't gotten to the end of the white collar stuff you haven't gotten to cousin Eddie you haven't gotten to
Starting point is 00:33:52 the point of okay why is he receiving all these payments what are they for are those crimes? Yeah. Are there laundering crimes going on there? Yeah. You haven't gotten to the Maggie and Paul killings.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Not that he had anything to do with it. But somebody's going to have to determine and make a final statement on how they occurred. It's just not going to sit out there that they got shot and killed and their crimes are going to go unsolved. Yeah. This is really serious stuff. And I believe, after talking with Creighton Waters, that it's a lot of information this grand jury was processing. And they're being given it to them in increment meals instead of just throwing it all at them at them at once. You know, it's a lot to process when you process, you know, obtaining the money by false pretenses.
Starting point is 00:34:56 a computer crime and a money laundering for this, you know, for each separate victim. It can all really be daunting when I stop and think that we're just scratching the service here, but because you all believed in us and because you invested in accountability journalism. We now have another truth seeker, which is Liz Farrell, working for us around the clock to find answers to these questions. and I'm more confident than ever that we will get answers in this, no matter how long it takes. Happy Thanksgiving to all of the Murdoch Murders Podcast fans out there. And again, subscribe and check out Murdochmurterspodcast.com
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