Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #100 - Murdaugh Clerk Charged With Four Felonies + Weldon Boyd Calls Reveal Changing Stories About What Happened to Scott Spivey

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

Investigative journalists Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell — and the whole LUNASHARK team — are celebrating 100 episodes of True Sunlight Podcast, the show that emerged from their relentless pursuit of justice in the highly acclaimed Murdaugh Murders Podcast (which, of course, is the basis for the star-studded Hulu scripted series currently filming in Atlanta).  What better way to celebrate two years of post-Murdaugh reporting than with an old throwback … breaking Murdaugh news on a Wednesday! Former Colleton County Clerk of Court Becky Hill was arrested and charged with four felony counts — two misconduct in office charges, an obstruction of justice charge and perjury.  Though three of the charges are related to Alex Murdaugh’s murder trial they are NOT related to Dick and Jim’s claims of jury-tampering. Two of the charges are specifically related to photos of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh’s dead bodies, which were allegedly leaked to a "news" agency during the trial and later distributed to random people following the Murdaugh case. Hmmm... But will these charges affect Alex’s chances at getting a new trial?  Also on the show, an update in the (18:49) Jane Doe lawsuits against Myrtle Beach “pastor” John-Paul Miller.  Plus, our continuing coverage of (34:17) the Weldon Boyd Calls. From the second North Myrtle Beach businessman opened his truck door after shooting 33-year-old Scott Spivey of Tabor City, North Carolina, to death in September 2023, Boyd began his search for the perfect narrative — one that would explain his presence on Camp Swamp Road and fit the definition of the Stand Your Ground law; that would explain why Scott was shot to death in the back and in his truck; one that integrated the emerging bits of information Weldon appeared to be getting from the shadows of the so-called investigation by Horry County Police Department.  Lots to cover, so let's dive in... 🥽🦈 Episode Resources Stay up-to-date and follow Mandy, Liz, and Beth on Facebook! 👀 Join LUNASHARK Premium today (use code TSP100) and check out our LUNASHARK Merch! ☀️👕🧢🛍️ “Walking with Stephen” Event 💚 Liz Farrell’s FB Post on Arrest & Charging of Becky Hill 🌐 Mica’s List & Mica’s Law ⚖️ Need a recap on a case? Check out these playlists 🎧 The Colucci Case Mica Francis Case & The 'Unrighteous' Millers Sunlight on Scott Spivey Referenced Episodes: TSP 43, 62 & 92 🎧 Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ ⁠⁠⁠Premium Members ⁠⁠⁠also get access to ad-free listening, searchable case files, written articles with documents, case photos, episode videos and exclusive live experiences with our hosts on ⁠⁠⁠lunasharkmedia.com⁠⁠⁠ all in one place. ⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠ to learn more: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠Check out our LUNASHARK Merch 👕⁠⁠⁠ What We're Buying... Chewy - ⁠⁠⁠chewy.com/mandy⁠⁠⁠ - Chewy has everything you need to keep your pet happy and healthy. Save $20 on your first order and get free shipping at ⁠⁠⁠chewy.com/mandy⁠⁠⁠ or visit our storefront here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.shop.anchor.store/chewy/@trusunlightpod⁠⁠⁠ Here's a link to some of our favorite things: ⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** Thank you to Lori M. for an adjustment near 27:55 :) For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Twitter.com/mandymatney⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Twitter.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I believe in certain life principles that have helped me and helped others achieve success, from the power of organization and a sense of urgency to the importance of truth leadership and resilience with vivid recollection from challenges and triumphs framing each chapter Success isn't about luck. It's earned through skill and hard work Please visit the Eric Bland comm to learn more about the book anything But Bland is the manifesto for those seeking triumph over adversity and a guide for anyone aspiring to reach their full potential. I don't know how we got so fortunate to get here,

but today we are celebrating 100 episodes of True Sunlight podcast that expose crime and corruption in cases across the country. We are celebrating a bright future here at Lunashark where we are dedicated to reminding the world that investigative journalism is alive and well. We are here celebrating 100 episodes that have helped change the world one case at a time, and that is a big deal. My name is Mandy Matney, and this is the 100th episode of True Sunlight,

a podcast exposing crime and corruption previously known as the number one global hit, Murdoch Murders Podcast, which is the basis for a Hulu original series coming this fall. True Sunlight is a Lunashark production written with journalist Liz Farrell. Y'all, this is the hundredth episode of True Sunlight Podcast, and again, that is a big deal. I told y'all when we started MMP, I had one goal and that was to get 10 episodes.

And there were so many times in the summer of 2021, when those 10 episodes felt literally impossible. And here we are now with over 300 episodes between MMP, True Sunlight and Cup of Justice. So let that be a reminder to you whenever something feels impossible that you can always do more than you think you are capable of, especially with the amount of support y'all have provided us. Again, shout out to the premium members, who have motivated us every week to expose the

truths, get the story straight, and give a voice to victims. We would not be here without y'all. That said, we are going to take next week off True Sunlight for some much-needed rest time, as I can feel our whole team is on the edge of burning out and we're preparing for a busy summer. However, all of us will still be around to update y'all on anything major breaking in Spivey, Murdoch, Gilley, Solomon, or the Miller case. Check the links in the description to follow us on social media for all of the tea in these cases, like this week when a state lawmaker's daughter attacked us on Facebook and our listeners absolutely dragged her into the sunlight.

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if you want to help the steering committee bring the event to life. Thank you all so much for your support as we brought these 100 True Sunlight Podcast episodes to life and we're looking forward to at least 100 more. life and we're looking forward to at least a hundred more. And it wouldn't be the 100th week of True Sunlight podcast without major news and the Murdoch case breaking on a Wednesday because of course. So former Colleton County Clerk of

Court, Becky Hill has finally been arrested and charged with four felonies, three of which are related to the Ellic Murdoch case. Now none of these charges are related to allegations that Becky tampered with the jury. And the only shocking thing about this is that it's actually happening. We thought for sure that law enforcement and the powers that be would sit on Becky's case like they're doing with cousin Eddie's. So let's talk about what went down.

On Wednesday morning, we awoke to reports that Becky was going to be arrested and charged with perjury for testimony she had given in Elex's hearing for a new trial in January 2024. Turns out there was more to that story. By mid-morning, Becky had been booked into Colleton County Jail, where she was charged with two counts of misconduct in office and one count of obstruction of justice. She was given a personal recognizance bond and will have to pay $10,000 for each charge

if she doesn't show up to future court proceedings in this case. After that, Becky was brought to Richland County, where she was booked into Alvin S. Glenn Detention Center on a single charge of perjury. It's a real Elick Murdoch murder tour here of jails. Becky was given a personal recognizance bond for this charge as well. She'll have to pay $50,000 though if she fails to show up for future court proceedings

and she is not permitted to leave South Carolina unless it's for work. So what is all this about? Right. Let's start with the perjury charge and the obstruction of justice charge because they are connected. On February 28th, 2023, just days before the Murdoch trial ended, Becky is accused of either releasing or making sealed evidence photographs available to a third party in violation of Judge Newman's court

order. Those photos are believed to have been of Maggie Murdoch's and Paul Murdoch's bodies at Moselle. On January 29, 2024, Becky is accused of lying about this on the stand when Justice Gene Toll asked her whether she had done this. We'll talk more about all of this in next week's episode of Cup of Justice, but for now, here's what to know about it. Sometime during or after Ellic's trial, photos of Paul's and possibly Maggie's dead bodies began circulating in some sort of text chains or in social media messages. We didn't find out about this until almost a year later. The origin of that photo or photos is believed to have been a member of a South Carolina news agency. We've seen the metadata on one of the 10 or so photos believed to have been leaked. It's a photo of Paul, which was taken on top

of a Manila folder labeled Defense Exhibit 191. Metadata shows that it was taken at 749, February 28th, 2023 at Colleton County Courthouse, and it was taken on an iPhone 14 Pro Max. Like I said, we'll talk about all of that next week. As for the misconduct charges, Becky is accused of misusing her office on June 7, 2023, when she was allegedly promoting her book about the Murdoch trial during work hours. She is also accused of misusing federal Title IV-D incentive funds to pay out bonuses to herself

and others between September 1, 2021 and, and March 5th, 2024, which is a few weeks before Becky resigned from the clerk's office. Now, how much jail time is Becky facing? It's hard to say. The perjury charge carries a sentence of up to five years, but the other three charges have sentencing guidelines that leave it up to the judge. We've already been asked several times about whether we think these charges will affect Elec's appeal and his quest for a new trial. As for the appeal, no. That comes down to an interpretation of law and whether Justice Tolle was correct in not allowing there to be a full-scale evidentiary hearing to determine whether Becky had tampered with Elec's jury,

which we still maintain she did not. As for a new trial, if Elec wins his state appeal or loses his state appeal and then wins his expected appeal in federal court, then there's no doubt that Dick and Jim or whoever is representing Elec Murdoch at the time will use these charges to paint Becky as a liar, as an untrustworthy person who has no credibility. But none of that changes the fact that the egg lady juror was kicked off the jury for talking about the case with people outside of the courtroom. It has nothing to do with Becky. And none of that changes the fact that juror 630, the egg lady's friend, the juror who could barely remember her lines when she appeared on Julia Grant's show on court TV with egg

lady and attorney Joe McCullough to talk about why she allegedly felt pressured by Becky to vote guilty. Well, she's changed her story several times. She has at least three affidavits floating out there fine tuning and correcting her own dumb points as she goes along. Further, juror 630 testified in court that her decision to convict Ellic was based on only the evidence heard on the stand and that she had arrived at this decision on her own. At this point, the only assessment we can give you right now is expect chaos and expect to see the old circus come back to town. Speaking of chaos, Dick and Jim released a statement Wednesday saying, quote,

This arrest further underscores the need to protect the integrity of the judicial process. Every defendant is entitled to a fair and impartial trial, and we look forward to Elec Murdoch finally getting that fair treatment. So, they are hinting at a new trial, and we fully expect the majority of the media to run with this narrative that Becky's bad deeds automatically equals new trial for Ellic. But remember, once again, that Dick and Jim already raised their concerns about Becky in a hearing last January, and Judge Tolle ruled the team Murdoch did not provide any

evidence that showed that Becky's bad deeds had any influence on the jury's guilty verdict. Also notice what Dick and Jim aren't saying. They aren't saying that Ellic is innocent. They aren't saying that the jury got it wrong. What they are doing is reaching when they say that Becky's big blunders should grant Ellic a new trial. That said, let's all pause for a moment and ask ourselves this question.

Why is Becky Hill the only public official who has been charged in the Murdock mess? What about Solicitor Duffy Stone, who was reportedly running a shadow investigation, steering detectives away from looking at Elick Murdoch in June 2021, before he finally recused himself in the investigation. What about Duffy Stone giving Elick Murdoch a badge in the unlimited power of that Solicitor's Office badge, when Elick only prosecuted one case in a whole decade. And why did Duffy let Ellic keep that badge in that powerful made-up position for weeks while he was the prime suspect in a double homicide investigation? And what about Greg Alexander, the Yemisi police chief whose role in escorting John Marvin Murdoch to the scene on the night

of the murders still does not make sense to us? Why did Ellic Murdoch to the scene on the night of the murders still does not make sense to us. Why did Elick Murdoch pay Greg Alexander $5,000 shortly after the murders, when he was dead broke? Greg said it was because Elick was repaying a loan to his father, but Elick owed a lot of people money at that point. Why the urgency to pay Greg, a police officer, then? What about Carmen Mullen, the judge who cleared the way

for Elick Murdoch to steal millions of dollars from the Satterfield family despite all of the red flags that she somehow missed? She is still on the bench. Do we really think that Becky Hill is a bigger threat to the judicial system? What about all the lawyers who knew about Elick's multi-million dollar thievery and did nothing for all of those years to stop it? And going back to Becky, is she really the

only one who should be charged with obstruction of justice for sharing sealed evidence with the media? What about the reporters who obtained photos of that illegally distributed evidence? Why didn't they immediately tell Judge Newman that the clerk of court in the trial of the century had shown them sealed evidence? Who did they share this illegally distributed evidence with exactly? Could that be considered obstruction of justice

or contempt of court, especially considering the fact that these reporters, who we will reveal when the time is right, would directly benefit from this case being tried again as it famously put these reporters' news outlet on the map and there are lots of numbers to show how much their business grew around Murdoch. I'm glad that Becky Hill was charged, but I am disgusted by members of the media pretending like she is the only bad apple in Murdoch's world. She is a bad apple hanging from the lowest branch

of a rotten tree. Becky is only different from the rest of the bad apples because her arrest helps Ellic Murdock's narrative. So what goes around comes around and so much is coming around on the week of our 100th episode. We have two big updates in the Colucci and Micah Francis cases to share. And I want to talk about those updates and also talk about how we got here.

50 episodes ago, we started covering the Micah Francis case that led us to untangle an unbelievable web of corruption in Horry County that might actually be worse than the corruption that we saw in the Murdoch case. I am one of those everything happens for a reason people who chooses to see meaning behind every twist and turn in the cases we cover and I can't help but feel like every bump in the road led us here." A year ago, we were getting ready to cover the Michael Kaluci trial that was slated for May 2024, and it desperately needed sunlight.

In the spring of 2024, we started covering the Kaluci case out of Somerville, South Carolina, after hearing from dozens of listeners who were worried that the state attorney general's office was once again going to get steamrolled by Colucci's fancy defense team led by Andy Savage once again. This murder case was originally tried in 2018 and resulted in a mistrial, but as we laid out so clearly in episode 43,

the prosecution basically have tried this case and they missed a lot of opportunities to reach a guilty verdict. So what happened to Sarah Lynn Calucci and why is this murder case important to us? On May 20th, 2015, 38-year-old Sarah Lynn Moore-Kaluci was found dead outside of a jewelry warehouse in Somerville, South Carolina that she owned with her husband, whose stepfather was a well-known and well-respected jeweler.

Sarah's husband, Michael Kaluci, a man who ran with highly connected circles in Charleston — which reportedly includes members of law enforcement, told police his wife hung herself with a garden hose. Like so many other men who are charged with killing their wives like Ellic Murdoch and Lee Gillie, the story that Michael Colucci told police about the circumstances surrounding his wife's death shifted several times and ultimately just didn't add up. Why would a 38 year old mother hang herself a few feet away from her husband who she was in the process

of divorcing? How could she even hang herself along a fence in an alley with a garden hose of all things? Like I said, a lot didn't add up here, so we covered this case from episodes 41 to 50 of True Sunlight Podcast, hoping to generate enough public interest so the Attorney General's office didn't once again blow Sarah Lynn's chance of getting justice. Remember, Sarah Lynn has a daughter who has waited almost 10 years to get justice in this case. That fact alone was enough for us to get involved. And guess what?

It worked. Kind of. The court that originally scheduled a measly five days for trial after our coverage said that the case would take longer than those five days and the case was then rescheduled for June 2nd, 2025. But then that was postponed again. So all of that said, we confirmed this week with the South Carolina Attorney General's office that the Colucci trial is now slated for June 16, 2025 in Berkeley County, South

Carolina, and it's scheduled to last two weeks. We hope that the Attorney General's office brings its A-game here, because Michael Colucci's defense team appears to be going hard this time around. They filed 31 motions in April, and we'll talk about those as we get closer to trial. We will be recapping the entire Calucci case in an upcoming episode, and we plan to cover the trial live for Lunashark Premium Soak Up the Sun members only. Be sure to sign up today in the link in the description. And we'll be right back. Hey there, listeners.

EB here and I want to tell you about a new weekly podcast that I'm hosting. I love being a lawyer, being a speaker. I absolutely am looking forward to being an author of my book, Anything But Bland, but I'm excited to tell you that I'm launching my very own podcast called Good Skill, betting on yourself. I delve into the idea that success isn't merely about luck, but is instead achieved through honing skills and strategic efforts and planning. Each episode of Good Skill offers listeners an insightful journey into the minds of individuals who are reshaping their respective industries and their careers.

Good Skill serves as a beacon of inspiration with a roster of interesting guests like independent journalist, media disruptor, and Cup of Justice co-host Mandy Matney. These conversations empower listeners seeking to make their mark in the world. Visit the ericbland.com website to learn more It has been a while since we talked about JP Miller. And for the sake of this being our 100th episode and considering the fact that the latest update about him is not good for him, let's give you a little reminder of who this man is and why we have been covering him for over 40 episodes. 30-year-old Micah Frances Miller of Myrtle Beach was found dead on April 27, 2024 in Lumberton, South Carolina.

Two days before her death, Micah's husband J.P. Miller, a sketchy preacher with a violent past, was served divorce papers. In the months leading up to her death, Micah warned anyone who would listen to her that she was afraid of her husband. Her sister said before her death, Micah specifically said, if I end up with a bullet in my head, it was not by me, it was JP. And yet Micah's death was quickly rolled a suicide by Robeson County Sheriff's Office, whose main evidence for this conclusion was that Micah had called 911 beforehand saying

that she was going to kill herself. But in our reporting, we found so many anomalies with her death investigation, such as the fact that there were multiple shell casings found near her body. Thankfully, the FBI apparently also saw some anomalies related to Micah's death, because shortly after her death, they opened up an investigation looking into J.P. Miller. And let's be clear here.

We still don't know whether or not Micah pulled the trigger, but when we investigated this case, we found a whole trail of evidence that would lead a lot of people to consider death as their best option, given what Micah was dealing with, and that evidence all pointed to J.P. Miller. From the moment Micah was dealing with, and that evidence all pointed to JP Miller. From the moment Micah died, every move JP made felt off to us, especially for a husband who was just served divorce papers. Micah and JP were not together on the day she died. They were separated. And yet he happened

to email Micah 26 minutes after her time of death to tell her not to repeat bad behaviors from before and don't let Satan win. JP texted Micah's family, good job, Francis' family. This is what happens when you encourage someone to divorce the person they love and tell them they don't need medicine. This was JP's argument from the moment Micah was found dead, that she had killed herself because she had stopped taking her medication lithium for an alleged diagnosis of bipolar, which was a weird thing to say before authorities had even ruled her death a suicide. When we investigated Micah Miller, who insisted in court documents that she be called Micah Francis again, and we have respected that wish, we uncovered a dark world that killed Micah slowly. Micah's divorce attorney, Regina Ward, documented

the alleged abuse Micah suffered since she married JP in 2017. In a five-page document of unbelievably painful allegations, Micah made about JP that were discovered through her writings and journals. That document is called Micah's List JP that were discovered through her writings and journals. That document is called Micah's List and Regina is using it to advocate for coercive control legislation in South Carolina. Micah's List detailed a lot of medical abuse Micah allegedly endured during her marriage.

It says JP declared Micah bipolar, forcing her to take lithium, a drug that he too was prescribed, that he monitored whether she complied with taking the pills and would forcefully give her steroid testosterone shots in her arms, thighs, and buttocks, that JP would make her swallow pills, and if he thought she hadn't taken them,

he would cut them up and put them into her food. Those are all allegations, and JP Miller has denied all allegations of abuse against Micah. We got our hands on dozens of medical records of Micah's and those records collectively backed up the allegations that JP allegedly used Micah's breast enhancement surgery as an opportunity to convince her that she was bipolar. It was stunning to see how it appeared to be easy for this man to convince doctors and medical professionals

that his wife was diagnosed with bipolar and schizophrenia and that sham diagnosis of dependent personality disorder that we never found any legitimate proof from legitimate doctors declaring to be true. The assertion from JP that Micah was suffering for long-term and severe mental illness is what made Micah look not credible in the eyes of the police that she had sought help from. They all had opportunities to see through JP's malarkey. Micah started her process of leaving JP Miller in early 2023. But South Carolina divorce laws made that incredibly difficult. And our investigation revealed that Micah

reached out to Horry County and Myrtle Beach police dozens of times to beg for their help in protecting her while she was in the divorce process. And time and time again, Myrtle Beach and Horry County police failed to help Micah, and they chose to believe JP the Pastor. Police didn't arrest him when he put trackers on her car multiple times. They didn't arrest him when he falsely accused Micah of stealing from the charity that she

loved. They didn't arrest him when he threatened Micah and her family on multiple occasions. I believe that Micah would be alive today if just one of those officers had listened to her. If just one of those officers let JP Miller know that they had Micah's back. If just one of those officers stepped up and said something isn't right here. During our investigation, we battled with Horry County Police and Myrtle Beach Police

for every piece of information in a way that we had not had to fight for information before. Our FOIAs in this case cost us thousands of dollars. And we discovered on multiple occasions that Horry County Police illegally withheld several 911 calls related to Micah that made them look really, really bad. Like the call weeks before Micah's death, when Micah told police her friends and family were worried that her husband would kill her and bury her somewhere. Time and time again, when Micah begged for their help and they treated her like a second-class

citizen, in my opinion, they hid those phone calls from us. But the truth came out, as it always does. And by the way, we're gonna circle back on our possible lawsuit against Horry County Police soon because we've seen a pattern of illegal and deceptive behavior in their police department before the Spivey investigation. Definitely check out Episode 62 to hear a summary of our previous beef with the police department. During the Micah Francis investigation last year, we also witnessed the kind of abuse

that Micah accused JP of doing in real time from JP himself. We watched him gaslight, manipulate, and lie in multiple interviews. We watched him use his sway with Horry County Police to receive essentially free security detail outside of his church where Justice for Micah protesters all legally protested every Sunday until he sold that building to another church. We watched him and his cronies call the police for exaggerated claims dozens of times in the months after Micah's death. And we watched Horry County give him grace time and time again.

Except, in a lot of ways, our investigation gave us a glimpse into Micah's world in Horry County where women aren't believed and abuse is not taken seriously. We could see exactly why she felt hopeless and who was responsible for that, which brings us to now. First of all, gosh, we hope that the FBI is still investigating JP Miller. It's been unusually quiet on that front,

which could mean that authorities are getting closer to charges and we really hope that's the case. We still don't know what exactly the FBI was looking for when they raided JP Miller's Myrtle Beach home with a whopping two dozen agents on November 1st, 2024, but we still hope to find that out soon. But while we wait on the FBI, JPMiller is still in deep, deep legal trouble. And we have an update on that front. While Micah Francis' death led us to a paper trail of evidence to expose police corruption in Horry County, we cannot forget at the center of that story there are still victims who

need our support in their fight for justice. Jane Doe number one and Jane Doe number two. In February and March, two women filed separate lawsuits against Myrtle Beach preacher JP Miller, his father, who is also a wacky preacher, Wayne Miller, and their churchy businesses for alleged sexual abuse targeting minors. Earlier this year, Jane Doe, number one, filed her lawsuit saying that she was 15 years old in 1998 when JP Miller raped her outside the church building

at 803 Howard Avenue while Wayne Miller was the preacher. She also alleges that JP Miller sexually assaulted her again when she encountered him in Myrtle Beach in 2023. Weeks later, Jane Doe, number two, filed her lawsuit saying that she was 14 years old in 1999 when she was allegedly sexually assaulted by JP Miller. And when she told a teacher she was allegedly punished by Wayne Miller

who purportedly made her write, "'I will not lie about John Paul Miller' 5,000 times." In episode 92, back in March, we told you all about how JP, with the help of his attorney, Russell P. Long, filed a counterclaim against Jane Doe number one for, get this, slander and libel. It's hilarious because you cannot defame someone

who has already defamed himself, as we have stated 100,000 times on this podcast as it relates to JP Miller, who apparently does not listen and neither does this attorney because, wow, what a waste of time and money. Have I mentioned that Mark the Tiger Tinsley, the lawyer who is currently lighting the Horry County Police Department on fire in the same way that he lit up Ellic Murdoch in the Mallory Beach case, is representing Jane Doe number one and number two, along with powerhouse attorney, Randy Hood. Russell B. Wrong and JP Miller don't stand a chance

with these absurd counterclaims, which are equally as absurd as JP and his team's. 34 lawsuits filed earlier this year against justice for Micah supporters and content creators. That plan blew up in JP Miller's face in a way that was spectacular. Only a few of the lawsuits he filed remain open and he is now facing several counterclaims for abuse of process on top of these massive Jane Doe lawsuits.

But all JP never learns, does he? Which is why we have over 40 episodes on Micah's case. Because JP never knows when to take an L and just be thankful that the FBI isn't knocking on his door. Again. Instead, in our opinion, he continues to abuse the legal system with the help of his attorney, who I kind of hope JP is paying a lot of money for because, man, his association with JP in this case has not been good for his reputation.

In his response to Jane Doe No. one's lawsuit, JP denied pretty much every accusation made against him by Jane Doe number one and stated for the record that he turned 18 in 1997, which is a year before the alleged sexual assault during which he was 19 years old. No matter what age someone is, not having consent is not having consent. Anyway, on April 29th, J.P. Miller filed another absurd counterclaim against Jane Doe number two. Honestly, it's an insult to the legal profession. Russell B. Long, Russell B. Wrong, appears to have copy and pasted his Jane Doe number one counter suit almost word for word. In his legal answers to both lawsuits, J., JP and Russell appear to

have copy and pasted the same vague sentence more than 500 times that says, defendant lacks information sufficient to form a belief as to the allegations contained in paragraph whatever and therefore denies the same and demands strict proof thereof. I'm not kidding. If I didn't know any better, it would almost seem like they were taunting Jane Doe number two for her allegation that Wayne Miller made her right that she wouldn't lie about JP 5,000 times. In JP's counterclaim to Jane Doe No. 2, JP and Russell say that JP has been put in harm's way by Jane Doe No. 2's public accusations, and they have caused a barrage of libelous and slanderous conduct by many others and

relentless cyberbullying, to which I cannot roll my eyes hard enough. JP has been on a journey since the start looking for someone to blame and sue for what people were saying about him online, completely ignoring the fact that media uses sources to cite their information, and people are allowed to have opinions about even JP Miller. On May 12th, Jane Doe, number two, filed her response to JP's counterclaim, which was similar to Jane Doe, number one's response,

which was basically, girl, no. And this is interesting because you would have thought that JP would have thought that JP would have learned from Jane Doe number one's responses. And you'll see why. Because in her response, Jane Doe number two argued that the court should dismiss JP's counterclaims for failure to state specifics, meaning he has to provide the specific

statements that he is claiming were defamatory, libelous or slanderous. Give the context and say who the third parties were that those alleged claiming were defamatory, libelous, or slanderous, give the context and say who the third parties were that those alleged statements were made to. All of that was in Jane Doe No. 1's response, and yet he made that counterclaim against Jane Doe No. 2 nonetheless. Jane Doe No. 2's response said, the counterclaim fails to identify the specific social media posts or appearances that allegedly caused harm to defendant JP Miller, nor does he provide any evidence of

actual malice from Jane Doe number two. I especially loved how Randy Hood and Mark Tinsley politely explained to JP and Russell in their latest filing, again, how defamation works, quote, to state a claim for defamation, libel or slander, the defendant must allege with specificity the false statements made the medium of publication and how these statements have caused him harm. The counterclaim lacks these in other words they didn't do it right. In the eyes of the law specifics matter, details matter, evidence matters. JP is learning over and over again that he can't just cry defamation and slander 500 times in 500 different ways and expect people to be scared into silence.

This mess is too big and the sunlight is too bright. The allegations are too heavy. And no one is quitting this fight before we see justice in these cases. In her response, Jane Doe number two is asking for the counterclaim against her to be dismissed and for the court to award her attorney's fees. She's also asking that JP be sanctioned for abuse of process. We cannot wait to see what happens next there because JP is so in over his head.

in over his head. All right, now let's talk about the Scott Spivey case and Horry County Police Department's cover-up to help protect Scott's killers. Wealthy North Myrtle Beach business owner Weldon Boyd and Weldon's friend Bradley Williams. Usually we like to give a quick recap before launching into the latest, but we have a lot of ground to cover today,

so we're just gonna dive in. If you haven't done so, listen to episodes 95 through 99, and you'll be up to speed on the Weldon Boyd case. From the start, Weldon Boyd and his cronies at Horry County Police called this a clear cut, black and white, cut and dry case of self-defense. No question about it, 100%. You hear Weldon use those phrases a lot in his phone calls. And yet, Weldon was very worried in the days after the shooting about

whether everything was going to shake out the right way for him. He had the best possible case scenario when it came to being the subject of a homicide investigation. So why would that be? Was it just run-of-the-mill, post-killing-a-human jitters? I mean, he was repeatedly told by the deputy chief of police and other officers, including the detective investigating him that everything was going to work out for him and he just needed to lay low.

The subtext being that he wouldn't face charges. They literally told him they were dotting their I's and crossing their T's to help clear his name. According to calls that he recorded on his own cell phone, Weldon was even being told that the 15th Circuit Solicitor was also working to keep Weldon from getting charged and that Representative William Bailey was even willing to help brand Weldon and Bradley as brave heroes to stymie any naysayers. Bailey denies this, by the way, and maintains that he doesn't know Weldon. But we have to say, Bailey's name is mentioned several times in the recorded phone calls

and he is Facebook friends with Weldon Boyd. Weldon had everything going for him in the days after the shooting. His lawyer was even representing Bradley at the time, so he even didn't really have to worry about Bradley turning on him. But that didn't matter. Weldon was on a mission. He wanted all of Horry County, South Carolina, and all of Tabor City, North Carolina to know that he was the victim here.

Not Scott. That this was self-defense. Not only did Weldon want the privilege of being able to shoot and kill a man with no questions asked and no judgment passed, he didn't want any uncertainty hanging over his head. He wanted the investigation over before it even started. In the meantime, he went on a behind the scenes phone and messaging campaign

to make sure the messaging was consistent. I am the victim. Remember, he was given that order from Horry County police officer, Damon Viscovi, at the scene of the shooting. Act like a victim, camera. Weldon owes that guy a free meal at Bowie's. Oh wait, I wonder if that deal continues for cops after they've been fired for helping

to fix a case. Anyway, maybe it wasn't the charges that had Wellden worried as much as the threat of a future civil case against him for wrongful death. Maybe he knew in his gut that while the Horry County Police Department had his back, the Spivey family's legal team would likely not be willing to take his word in the same way police did despite his inconsistencies. Luckily for Weldon, the Horry County Police Deputy Chief was also helping Weldon behind the scenes to mitigate any future case. Great job Brandon.

It's so funny listening to these conversations now because neither of those two men ever From the second Weldon called 911, he was, by his own admission, aware that this would be an important record for his future, and therefore made sure that his narrative was the one that would prevail. He kept dispatch on the line so they would hear that he wasn't at fault for the thing he warned them was about to happen before making that turn onto Camp Swamp Road. From the second he opened the door of his truck post shooting, he made sure everyone around him was equipped with his version of what just happened, that Scott had fired first. Weldon loudly and assertively yelled his version and begged people to stay and talk to police when they said that they too had seen Scott driving erratically

on Highway 9 or holding the gun out of his window. In the days after Scott was killed Weldon was on a mission to make sure his story, yes story that is the word he used for it, was being understood in the way he needed it to be understood. He was testing it against the evidence that was coming in and the witness statements that were taken and the information people were gathering about Scott for him. And he was fine tuning it where necessary. In our opinions, from listening to dozens of his calls and reading hundreds of his text messages,

Weldon seems very concerned that his actions wouldn't be seen as self-defense despite the reassurances he was getting from Horry County police. He seemed to obsess over affirming and reaffirming his narrative, repeating it like a mantra and changing details depending on who he was talking to or what new information he had learned from the investigation. More on that in a minute. We're going to play a bunch of clips today from Weldon's calls. Here's what we want you to keep in mind while listening. The attorney general's office, namely assistant attorney general, Heather Weiss, from Weldon's calls. Here's what we want you to keep in mind while listening. The Attorney General's office, namely Assistant Attorney General Heather Weiss, claimed to have carefully

reviewed the case and determined that there was insufficient evidence to charge Weldon Boyd. Immediately after that decision, in April 2024, the Spivey family was told the case was closed. But it would be another six or so days until the Attorney General's office cleared Bradley Williams of charges, according to documents. Now, why is that? I am unsure. But my educated guess is this, that the AG's office understood this case to be about Weldon Boyd,

because it was about Weldon Boyd and about making sure he didn't face charges, right? I believe that they simply forgot there were two shooters, because it was never Weldon Boyd and about making sure he didn't face charges, right? I believe that they simply forgot there were two shooters because it was never about the evidence and always about the desired outcome, in our opinions. Bage's office appears to still believe Heather Weiss made the right decision not to prosecute this case despite what the phone calls and other evidence seem to indicate about the shooting and the cover-up. To protect themselves from having to admit that they were idiotically wrong on their

conclusions in April 2024, the AHE's office seems to be relying on two things. One, that despite the appearance of improprieties in the investigation, they seem to believe it didn't affect the integrity of the investigation itself, meaning that the outcomes would have been the same either way. There are several calls where Weldon is told by police that they still have a thorough investigation to do. But A, it doesn't mean they actually did that thorough investigation, and we would certainly argue that they didn't.

And B, that particular assurance from the police was in response to Weldon wanting them to immediately declare him as justified in shooting Scott. And two, there's the eyewitness report from a 20-year-old North Carolina woman who had called 911 just before Weldon did that evening on September 9, 2023. The girl told police that Scott was driving aggressively, had pointed a gun at her, and had driven Weldon off the road. And the AG's office seems to believe that this is what granted Weldon and Bradley permission to be the judge and jury with Scott. We're going to talk more about the witness accounts in a future episode, but it's important to know for this episode that

there are discrepancies between what the witnesses said they saw and what Weldon was telling people the witnesses saw. As for the 20-year-old woman, surveillance footage shows her a good distance behind Scott and Weldon on Highway 9 before that turn onto Camp Swamp. But while on Highway 9, she had no context with which to understand what she was seeing. For instance, we know that Scott and Weldon were already engaged in the road rage incident at the time that this woman called 911. We know that Weldon was chasing Scott at this point. And we know that there might have been another white truck involved in this road rage incident

with Scott. And we know Scott had lifted his gun out of the window to allegedly show Weldon or maybe even that other truck. Despite Weldon telling people that there were photos of Scott pointing his weapon at people on the road, no such photos or video exist. All Weldon has is a photo of Scott holding the gun up and pointed toward the sky with his finger off the trigger. Is it possible that the young woman believed Scott was pointing the weapon at her, but he was really pointing it at Weldon or the other truck? Or is it possible that Scott wasn't pointing the gun at anyone, but rather that action of lifting his arm up with the gun in hand gave that appearance? Eyewitness accounts are important, but not always dependable because people tend to fill in the gap

of what they don't know with their own assumptions or with information they learn from others at the scene or later. And it's hard to get them to see things according to facts that don't line up with their original version of what they thought they saw because their belief in what they saw is so strong. For example, the 20 year old woman told 911 that she was watching Scott shoot Weldon and Bradley on Camp Swan Road, that she saw him do this with her own eyes. She was terrified that Scott had killed Weldon and Bradley because she had seen him shoot at them so many times.

But that's not what happened. That's not what she saw. She didn't see Scott shoot at them. It's what she thought she saw because she didn't have the context. She didn't know that what she was actually seeing was Weldon and Bradley shooting at Scott through the front window of Weldon's truck. She saw the glass. She thought the bullets were going in the other direction because she had seen Scott

with the gun earlier and not Weldon and Bradley. And she saw that Scott's truck was in the middle of the road, that she had seen him with the gun minutes earlier and that his truck door was now open. Again, we'll explain more about why this witness's account is unreliable and incomplete in a future episode. But we know that the AG's office, as well as Weldon and his team, believe this witness's account exonerates Weldon and Boyd to some degree, even though her account of what happened on Camp Swamp Road is factually incorrect and wholly unsupported by the evidence. On September 9, 2023, immediately after Weldon got off the phone with 911 and checked to see if Scott was alive, he called his mother.

You can hear some of that interaction that Weldon was having with the witnesses who had stopped. Huh? You okay? Yeah, yeah. Did you see that? What happened on the road? No, yeah. Where did you see that? What happened on the road? Okay, do slow tried to run us off the road and when we turned here, he got there,

got out and the gun at us. Hey, mama, I just had to shoot. I just killed somebody. He tried to shoot me and Bradley. We're good. He's here. Did y'all see it happen? You saw him swarming at me? Did you see him holding the gun at me? You saw it again? He ran me off the road. Please, please talk to the police. I had to shoot him. Please. He shot at my truck. He got out of the car, aimed the gun at me and shot at us. Please talk to the cop and let him know what he was doing out there.

He shot, yes. He just pulled the gun right at me and my friend. On the road, he held the gun right at our face. Okay, please stay and talk to the cop. They've all saw him do that. You're good, please stay and talk to the cops. They've all saw him do that. You're good, man. Okay, where are you? I am on, I'm on Highway 9 at Camp Swamp Road.

You and dad, please get here ASAP. Mom, I killed him. Okay. Bye. Like we said, there are discrepancies in what Weldon says the witnesses said and what they actually said. Quote, they all saw him do that is an overstatement, even just based on what you can hear in that call. So, if Weldon does get charged in Scott's shooting in the future,

we are already predicting some discussion over whether Weldon said, Hey mama, I decided to shoot. I just killed somebody. Or I just had to shoot. I just killed somebody. In another recorded phone call from Weldon, made by Weldon from the scene that night, you can hear Weldon forcefully telling potential witnesses that what they were seeing here was absolutely self-defense. the Bonnie Bay. What's your name? Weldon Boyd. Weldon Boyd. Why'd I say Bonnie Bay Road? I just

bought that farm. I'm taking my couches to my darn farm and this guy does this. Bonnie Bay, the art- Ken. Okay, let's check in with Weldon and his mama on the evening of September 11th, 2023, two days after Scott's killing. Weldon sounded worried. There's two sides to this argument that can be argued in court. In that situation, that family could say, I knew that the guy had a gun, but yet I still pursued him

as if I was looking for a fight. And that Scott was scared and got out and thought he was defending himself against me. That's going to be their argument is that Scott knew I was chasing him and he was trying to get away from me and I continued to follow him and Scott defended himself but lost so they're gonna make me out to be a murderer but here's the thing this is what Brandon told me. Brandon told me and you need to write this down so that we remember this because I don't know if this thing gets to be ugly if Brandon can keep talking to me while it's going

on. Brandon said there's three things that have cleared your name legally. And he said, and it don't give a mad, it don't give a shit what attorneys want to say. These three things will protect you. He said one, wait, what were the three things? I forgot them earlier. I'm trying to remember them again. Um, I feel like I should pause here so you can have a full belly laugh at that one. Because first, I mean, yeah, Weldon, duh! Of course there's going to be the Spy V family's argument because it's plain logic. Second, the fact that Weldon had to point out that Scott lost the gunfight. Y'all, if we've heard that once from Weldon in these calls, we've heard it a million times. He rarely misses an opportunity to point out what a superior shooter and truck

purchaser and road driver he believes himself to be. But also third, the deputy police chief gave Weldon three points to remember in service of his self-defense narrative. And Weldon who claims his self-defense was clear-cut, black and white, cut and dried, 100%, no questions about it, can't seem to recall what those points were even though they should, I don't know, immediately connect to whatever righteous acts Weldon thinks he did in this clear-cut case of self-defense.

To be fair, Weldon did end up remembering the three points. Two of them were the same point. He said Brandon told him that the fact that they had stayed in their vehicle and the fact that they were legally allowed to be on Camp Swamp Road were the two saving graces in terms of the Castle doctrine and Stand Your Ground applying here. But what Brandon didn't mention is that for those to apply, Weldon can't have been the aggressor or breaking the law while this was going on. And in that call that we just shared, as well as the call we shared last week in which Weldon admitted to his mother

that he was on Scott's bumper and that he knew Scott was legitimately terrified of them, it sure does sound like Weldon knew that part of the narrative was going to be very tricky for him. We'll talk more about this in the future, but Scott's sister, Jennifer Spivey Foley, mentioned in Cup of Justice last week that photo evidence and video surveillance, once plotted out on a map according to their metadata, shows Weldon possibly going at speeds

up to 100 miles per hour to catch up with Scott. I also want to quickly mention this because we've gotten some questions about it. There is no legal duty to retreat in South Carolina, meaning generally people in a position where they feel they have no choice but to use deadly force because their lives are in imminent danger, don't have to first attempt to leave the situation before using said deadly force. That's what the Stand Your Ground Law is. So in this case, Team Weldon and Team Heather Weiss, which is party of one, would be of the belief that Weldon and Bradley weren't required by law to retreat. However, a stronger argument can be made that there is a distinct difference between being granted the legal

agency to defend yourself when presented with a legitimately imminent life or death situation where you don't later have to answer a question like, why didn't y'all try to talk it out first? And what happened on Highway 9 in Camp Swamp Road? Scott had retreated. He exited the highway on a road he took to get home.

Regardless of what is true and isn't true about who presented their firearms first on Highway 9, Scott was no longer an imminent threat to Weldon. It was over. Weldon chose to follow and finish it. At the scene of the shooting, Weldon was told by his family and his attorney to shut up, stop talking. Don't talk to police, don't talk to the witnesses.

Not a word. But Weldon being Weldon couldn't help himself. his attorney to shut up, stop talking, don't talk to police, don't talk to the witnesses, not a word. But Weldon being Weldon couldn't help himself. In this call with his mother about an hour after the shooting, Weldon tells her that all the cops at the scene said this was self-defense, that Scott shot first. Weldon defended himself, and that is that.

How could they possibly have come to that conclusion? That soon, based on the evidence available to them at the scene, is beyond us. But here is Weldon's mother's reaction. But you haven't talked to them. No, just normal stuff. I haven't, I haven't, no. I've done what Ken's told me to do before. Now before Ken called me, yes, I talked to him, but the story is the same story that the witnesses have told him and the same story Bradley. I haven't messed anything up with that. So the police are the ones that are saying it's cut and dry?

It's cut and dry. They keep saying it's cut and dry. Okay. They keep saying it's cut and dry. So, I it's, it's. He got out the truck. He ran me off the road. I almost flipped my truck. And then when we pulled over down this road to, to make sure nothing had fallen out the truck, we had just left tractor supplies,

buying fans and extension cords for you tomorrow so you wouldn't be hot. And he got out his truck. He was in front of us. He pulled a Glock, and he aimed it at me, and he shot, and he missed. And then I shot back, and I didn't miss. So a few things here. One, did you notice how he made sure to tell his mom that the reason he was in the wrong place at the wrong time was because of her? The backstory on

that is that he wanted his mama at the farm he was building, and she told him that it was going to be too hot outside for that. Also, did you note his use of the word story? Granted, the word story alone is not an indicator of something being made up or embellished, but, quote, I haven't messed anything up on that,

is a notable little phrase there. Again, there are no witnesses who saw Scott point his gun at Weldon and Bradley on Camp Swamp Road, and there are no witnesses who saw Scott shoot at Weldon and Bradley first, and there's one witness who saw Scott with his gun in his hand in the slide back as the shooting was beginning. One more thing, there's Weldon again with the I pulled over to fix my trailer version of why he turned down Camp Swamp Road. He wants that version

to be accepted as true because it erases the actual facts about why he turned down that road. As a reminder, here is what Weldon said to the dispatcher after making that turn. Now he's turning off the road. We're gonna keep trying to follow him, but if he starts shooting, dude, I don't know. So he's turning on to Camp Swamp Road. What road? Camp Swamp Road. What road?

Camp Swamp Road. He's stopping, he's stopping. Hey, we're about to have a fucking shootout, dude. This dude's got a gun. He's got a fucking gun. Now, you should all know that Weldon does not like the word chase. He maintains that he was merely following Scott on behalf of the police.

That is, when he's not saying he wasn't following him, but rather turning on to Camp Swamp to fix his trailer. Oh, here's a fun one. This is Weldon and his mama about an hour and a half after the shooting. Poor Bradley, he probably should have... I know, I feel bad for Bradley too. Oh, no. Even Bradley has, I need to write a book on y'all.

She says she's gonna write a book on us. Who? Mama. Uh, you talking to your mama? You wanna talk to her? Yeah. All right, let me go." "...I'd rather y'all be chasing Charlie Brown."

"...Alright, bye." "...Bye." Not sure if she said she'd rather them be chasing Charlie Brown or someone that's a real person, but it doesn't matter. She used the word chase in reference to what Weldon says he and Bradley didn't do to Scott before killing him. We'll be right back. Here is Weldon talking to police officer Ken Kovarski the day before the shooting.

Weldon gives him the fixing the trailer story and says that Scott ambushed them. The engagement was at about 30 yards, so. It's just like an iraq all over again, man. But I tell you what, man, it's just like shit. And that's what I told one of the guys, they were like, are you gonna be good? I'm like, I'm good. It's just a little bit different that's what I told one of the guys, they were like, are you gonna get good? I'm like, I'm good. It's just a little bit different than a state side. You know, it's like, you don't wanna,

I didn't wanna, I don't wanna go through that. And those days were 10 years behind me. It's just, why'd he put me? Well, so remember he kicked him out, so it's all good now. Well, I think we tagged him pretty good. I hate it for him, but stupid choices. Oh my God, I can't. Just like his Iraq days, it's different than a stateside.

Those years are behind him. What a baddie badass, right? And the days after the shooting, Weldon had many a juggle about his military days and his time in Iraq and how this wasn't his first rodeo, as he put it. He told his dad that he and Bradley had gunfire superiority over Scott. He told Bradley, remember, I said there ain't nothing to kill in a person. So it sounds like Weldon saw a lot of action when he was serving our country, right? But here's the thing. No, he didn't. Weldon, according to sources, served in the Army National Guard and though he did go to Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom, he didn't see any action.

He didn't come under fire. He had never so much as pointed a gun at another person before. Scott was his first kill. And boy, did he take that stateside kill seriously. Back to Heather Weiss from the attorney general's office and how they seemed to forget that Bradley was part of this case. I will give her a little grace, a tiny little drop of it.

Scott was shot once fatally, and it was through the upper right side of his back. He was grazed twice, once on the left cheek and once on his elbow. Weldon and Bradley were shooting with identical guns. They didn't know who had fired the fatal shot to Scott, and maybe that's why there was a delay in closing out Bradley's charges. In multiple phone calls, Weldon was taking credit for the kill, saying that he got Scott with a headshot. Now, why a headshot?

Weldon had seen Scott's body in the truck and had taken a picture of it and sent it to people, including friends on Facebook. And he didn't notice that Scott had been shot in the back. He couldn't see the blood coming from that area. But Scott had blood on his face and a big gash on his cheek. So perhaps Weldon jumped to conclusions. So in this next call, we have Weldon and Bradley talking about this on the

evening of September 12, 2023. Weldon tells Bradley that the autopsy results are not in yet and they will have to wait a month for the toxicology report. He tells him that his truck was never hit by any of Scott's alleged bullets, and he tells Bradley that Scott was shooting a Springfield XD.45. He tells Bradley that there were significant shell casings outside of Scott's truck, which is not true. There was one casing outside of Scott's truck. It was near his driver's side front tire, which possibly means nothing when trying to determine whether Scott shot at

Weldon from outside his truck or shot Weldon first. Because Weldon also had a casing in the same area near his truck. We know Weldon shot Scott from inside his vehicle, so Weldon's casing clearly fell out of the truck when he opened the door. So the same thing could have happened with Scott. It could have fallen out. Anyway, it's not always clear which information Eldon knew from his lawyer, from his friends in law enforcement, from his own memory, from photos that he had taken, or from other people.

But what is clear is that he's using this information and sharing it with Bradley so that they can further work on their narrative together. There was a significant amount of shell casings outside of the vehicle and significant amount of shell casings inside of his vehicle which confirms our story that he engaged us from the outside of the truck got back in his truck and we quit shooting and then he started shooting again. So our story is solid. Now here's where it gets crazy. Remember when he put his head up and we both were starting to shoot again? That's when we killed him. You know why

you know why he put his head up? He was lifting himself off of the center console where he had another high capacity magazine that he was trying to get to reload and get back in the fight. Oh shit. Once, all right, so that whole weekend, it's like it's like it just keeps playing over and over and over. So once you said there was two graze wounds and that one headshot. We don't know that. That's a rumor. But that's what I'm going off of. Okay, so say there is two graze wounds and a head shot. I'm thinking, we obviously know the headshot was inside the vehicle. Yep.

I remember when he popped his head up and we heard that little pop, pop, pop, and we shot again. I'm not saying it's exactly how it happened, but that is a small target that I know I focused on. Not saying that I shot him in the head, I'm not saying that at all, but I'm saying that me and you both had a direct target.

I don't know, it's like we had that moment to like woof saw out and we broke, you know, we stopped shooting. And once I seen that head again, it was like, there's the target, hit it there. In case you're wondering what woo-saw means, it's from the Bad Boys movie franchise. It means taking a moment to calm down and collect yourself.

Bigger point, they shot and killed Scott from 108 feet away. That's roughly the length of a basketball court. Weldon and Bradley had shot holes in the windshield they were looking out of. Scott's back window was tinted. Assuming this account is true, the only way they would have seen Scott's head

is because they had already shot out his back window in the truck. This is important. Weldon says Scott opened fire on them from outside of his truck and that Scott only crawled back in after he was grazed. Then Scott allegedly started shooting again, and so they had to start shooting at him again,

which would explain how he was shot inside the truck. If the back of the window of Scott's truck was already blown out, which it most likely was, for Bradley to be able to see Scott's head, that means they were shooting at Scott in the truck before they wussed out and again returned fire. The detective told Ken that is when he was killed. Is when he lifted him, he said, or he said he was killed because Ken told him, Weldon told me that at one point he lifted himself up and then that's when they finally

knew where he was in the truck and they shot in that area. And the detective said that's when they killed him. Cool. The Horry County detective was telling Ken Moss critical details from the investigation. Details that meant an explanation was going to be needed for why it was okay for Weldon and Bradley to kill Scott after he was in his truck. And that explanation seemed to be handed to them. The narrative became Scott go back in the truck not to escape these two maniacs who were following him and now shooting at him but because he must have been trying to reload his weapon.

Again there was only one casing outside of Scott's truck, and the rest of the casings were found inside the truck, suggesting that he did his shooting from inside the truck. And again, the fatal wound was through the upper right part of Scott's back, and Scott was right-handed. His body was slumped over the center console, and his right arm was extended

and hanging over the console into the backseat area. His pistol was on the floor of the backseat or as Horry County and team Weldon like to say under Scott's hand but it wasn't under his hand it was to the right of it. I also want to mention that Scott's phone was on the floor of the front seat passenger side of his truck. Here is Weldon and Bradley again. Here's the problem they got. We both were shooting 124 grain bullets. They don't know whose bullets are whose. Unless they go through and they do the barrel twist test. Weldon tells Bradley that doing this, though,

would take three months and it would delay the clearing of their names. I don't know that we're really gonna know who hit what when and where. No, fuck no. I did it. We killed a dude. That's all that this was Ken just explaining to me because Ken felt like we wanted to know who won the prize Who won the prize?

the prize Listen closely to how Weldon phrases this next part. I knew when he lifted up That's what he was he was going for more ammo because when I read that they Moved his body and the slide was locked to the rear and the mag was empty, he was laying down for cover.

The only reason he would have exposed himself was to open that console and get that next magazine out. That makes sense. And that's when we fight, because you can hear us on the on the call Where is he I can't see him? But when he fired those three shots and he lifted up me and you both went right back at it Yeah, and you can hear a distinguished pause in the recording

Yeah, and you'll hear but the shots aren't as, if you listen to the recording, the shots aren't as spastic as when we first started shooting. We first started shooting. We was fucking throwing everything. We were gaining fire superiority. Once he got in the truck though, if you hear the shots that we actually did shoot, they were very slow. Pow, pow, pow, pow.

When we finally knew where he was. Yeah. So that's when we killed him. Brandon's the one who told me originally, y'all tagged his ass pretty good. Now he could have had five flesh wounds that ain't worth a shit, but I do know some rounds went through his head. But the good thing out of this is, now no one can argue that he was not outside of the vehicle trying to shoot us.

And no one can argue that he got in his vehicle with the intention to flee. Because he shot his weapon outside the vehicle, and then he got in the vehicle, he emptied his weapon from there, and he even made the effort to expose his body in a shootout to get the second magazine. This is significant for two reasons. One, it would explain why the fatal shot happened inside the truck according to Weldon and Bradley's version, which is this, that Scott was standing at the back of his truck aiming the gun at them. This is not where a witness saw him, by the way.

And that Scott did something Matrix-like with his hand before backing up Terminator-style, facing Weldon and Scott before crawling into the truck for cover. Two, if Scott was reaching for more ammo, then it paints him as fully engaged in the gunfight and not coming under fire. Again, according to Weldon and Bradley's thinking, never mind that Scott might have felt like the one who had gotten ambushed and never mind that he might have had a right to defend himself. Beyond all this, we think it's pretty significant that up until this point, Weldon and Bradley don't appear to be 100% certain that the evidence was going to line up with their story. So, no, we're going, this is going to be fine. I'm so glad to hear that there was casings outside of the vehicle and inside. Yeah, I just want that undeniable fact that yes, that's what exactly happened.

Even though we say it happened, we know it happened. I want other people to feel like it's undeniable. It happened that way. Well, we now know that there's no contest. We will be getting self-defense, justifiable homicide, and there's nothing that can be done. Again, there is one empty casing outside of Scott's truck and one outside of Weldon's. Presence of those casings did not give Weldon and Bradley a slam dunk piece of evidence that proved them right as they seem to believe here. That proved that Scott had shot at them from outside his truck or that he had shot at them

first. What we find super interesting here is the timing of this conversation. On September 12, 2023, Horry County Police Department's CSI unit had submitted their official inventories of everything found in and around both trucks. These reports are lengthy and anyone skimming through them and not familiar with evidence inventories would be forgiven for not fully understanding what they said about the scene and where certain casings were. You often need the photos to compare. So did Weldon or his legal team have those reports? Did someone give them a quick rundown

of what they saw on those reports? Or was Weldon guessing at that information? It sure does sound like they were given some sort of information about that, but we will continue sharing more from the Weldon tapes when we return. One thing I wanna leave you with today is this. The Horry County Police Department

administered gunshot residue tests on Weldon and Bradley, the admitted shooters. But there was no gunshot residue test that appears to have been done on Scott Spivey, the man who is not alive, to tell his side. Why would they not test Scott for gunshot residue? Do they not want confirmation that he did in fact shoot his gun that day? Or were they afraid of what the tests might have said? There is so much more to reveal in the Weldon Boyd case.

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