Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #102 - Third Horry County Cop Caught on Video Helping Weldon Boyd at Shooting Scene + JP Miller Married Suzie Skinner

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Investigative journalists Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell encountered something new on the JP Miller beat over the past week and it might just be his villain origin story. Myrtle Beach churchy-busine...ss bro “Pastor” John-Paul Miller — who stands accused of stalking and harassing his estranged wife Mica Francis and allegedly contributing to her death in April 2024 — got married this past weekend to his rumored longtime paramour Suzie Skinner — the widow of a quadriplegic man who was found dead at the bottom of his community pool in September 2021 (two weeks after he allegedly told JP to stay away from his wife and kids). The beach wedding appeared to be hastily pulled together and none of their combined seven children were seen at the wedding, according to sources. The big question everyone has on their minds after Sunday’s nuptials: What are these two up to? Also on the show Mandy and Liz share more recordings in the Scott Spivey case (aka the Horry County Police Department corruption case). Turns out North Myrtle Beach businessman Weldon Boyd got even more help from police officers after he and his friend Bradley Williams shot and killed Scott on Sept. 9, 2023. LUNASHARK reporter and researcher Beth Braden discovered that about an hour after Scott was killed, HCPD Officer Kerry Higgs advised Weldon to stop talking because he might have to walk his story back later. Higgs told Weldon to wait for detectives to get to the scene because they would give him the timeline and chronology of events (presumably so Weldon could shape his narrative around it).  Meanwhile a detective with HCPD — the one who interviewed the only witness to see what Scott did (didn’t do) in the very last moments of his life — filed a report mixing up the order of events in a way that only served to help corroborate Weldon’s account … directly contradicting the witness’ 911 call and his video interview.  Plus, we'll give an update on surprising news out of Houston, TX connected to the (2:32) Christa Bauer Gilley case. Let’s dive in! 🥽🦈 Episode References Share your 🥂Happiest Birthday Wishes🎉 with Mandy on LUNASHARK’s Insta! Mandy’s FB Post about the Miller/Skinner Wedding 🌐 Murdaugh Series Wrap Party Posts from Mandy and ELC 🌐 Sunlight on Scott Spivey Spotify Playlist 🎧 The Colucci Case Spotify Playlist 🎧 Premium Resources Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Members ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠also get access to ad-free listening, searchable case files, written articles with documents, case photos, episode videos and exclusive live experiences with our hosts on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunasharkmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ all in one place. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out our LUNASHARK Merch 👕⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ What We're Buying... Chewy - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠chewy.com/mandy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Chewy has everything you need to keep your pet happy and healthy. Save $20 on your first order and get free shipping at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠chewy.com/mandy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit our storefront here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.shop.anchor.store/chewy/@trusunlightpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Here's a link to some of our favorite things: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠info@lunasharkmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** Thank you to Lori M. for an adjustment near 27:55 :) For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter.com/mandymatney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:10 Please visit TheErikBland.com to learn more about the book, Anything But Bland, as the manifesto for those seeking triumph over adversity and a guide for anyone aspiring to reach their full potential. I don't know if Horry County Police are ever going to realize this, but we aren't going away anytime soon, especially when it comes to the Scott Spivey case. Every single time we take a deeper look at this case, we find more stunning evidence of corruption and incompetence that just further prove how right Jennifer Spivey Folley was all along. No one really ever investigated this case. The question is, will they ever fix it?
Starting point is 00:02:11 My name is Mandi Matney. This is True Sunlight, a podcast exposing crime and corruption previously known as the Murdoch Murders Podcast. True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production written with journalist Liz Farrell. Today, I want to start by making something super clear. We have Jennifer Follies back. Every week, we continue to be in awe of her bravery and her relentless pursuit of justice in her brother's case. This week, attorneys working on behalf of Weldon Boyd and Bradley Williams, the two men who admittedly shot Scott Spivey to death,
Starting point is 00:02:52 have launched an attempt to intimidate Jennifer into silence. At least, that's what it looks like to us. They subpoenaed for Jennifer's personal phone records and her teaching records at the school that she no longer works at. I was upset to hear this, so I want to say this for the record, those good ol' boy tactics will not survive the sunlight. No matter which way Team Weldon spins this one, they look like bullies who are trying to silence a grieving sister from
Starting point is 00:03:26 getting to the truth of what happened to her brother. The good ol' boys always look for skeletons in everyone's closets because they assume everyone else has them like they do and they assume that everyone else is just as bad as them. Shame on them for assuming anything about Jennifer Spivey Foley. They can subpoena around and find out all they want, but I hope a judge stops this intimidation in its tracks
Starting point is 00:03:55 because the whole world is watching here. People are looking at Jennifer Foley as the person fighting the system. They shouldn't have to consider whether or not their text messages would survive public scrutiny when considering putting up a similar fight. Victims should never be subjected to such a disgusting invasion of privacy when they are merely seeking the truth and trying to get justice for their loved one. Shame on the system and shame on those attorneys who tried this.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Newsflash, they won't win. And we will talk more about the Spivey case in a minute. Today, for starters, we have an update about Lee Gillie, another husband who was arrested for murder for telling police that his wife, Christa Bauer Gilley, had killed herself. On Wednesday afternoon, the Justice for Christa page on Instagram posted that things are moving along in the criminal case against Lee. Remember he was charged with capital murder in Texas because Christa was nine weeks pregnant at the time she was killed. According to sources, Lee is now allowed to move back into the home that he shared with
Starting point is 00:05:08 Krista and their two small children who were in the home the night that Krista was killed. Since his arrest a few days after Krista's death in October 2024, Lee was ordered to stay away from his home, his children, their daycare center, and Christa's family. Since then, Christa's parents have had to live in Texas to take care of Christa's two children who were barred from leaving the state. A little while ago, Christa's parents got the okay to temporarily move their grandkids to South Carolina, which was a huge relief. So while Lee gets to move back to the house where he allegedly killed Krista, he is still ordered to stay away from and have no contact with his children or Krista's family.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Also, according to the Justice for Krista Instagram page, there are subpoenas out for Reddit and Instagram. It is not clear what those subpoenas might be looking for. The most surprising update is that the court also approved a subpoena to collect Lee's DNA. What's weird about that is that he was arrested for capital murder and that's one of two dozen serious crimes in Texas that calls for DNA collection upon arrest. So what happened there? In the next few days, we're going to dig deeper there and we will let you know what we find out next week. In the meantime, we are happy that Krista's two kids
Starting point is 00:06:37 get to be surrounded with the love of Krista's large family in South Carolina. And we are glad that the court agrees that Lee should have nothing to do with them before his trial. So the other day as we were finishing up last week's episode on the Chris Skinner investigation, I started thinking to myself, hmm, JP Miller hasn't done anything weird in a minute. That's odd for him. Maybe he finally learned to lay low while the literal FBI is investigating him. But no,
Starting point is 00:07:13 JP Miller never lays low. He just can't help himself. Because just a few days after our explosive episode aired with those stunning interviews that left me thinking, wow, Susie Skinner and J.P. Miller really deserve each other, we got word from several sources that the widower and widow, whose scorned spouses both died under similarly strange and tragic circumstances, were tying the knot beachside in front of the Holiday Inn in Surfside, South Carolina, on Sunday, June 1st. Just to give y'all a glimpse into the weird world that is my life, I was in the middle of having a ball at the Murdoch Hulu Show Rap Party in Atlanta, where I got a fangirl, Patricia Arquette, Kathleen Wilhoyt, Erin Lee Carr,
Starting point is 00:08:06 Michael D. Fuller, and so many other amazing people who helped make this show come to life." And that's when the text and messages started coming in about JP and Suzy. Of course they got married on Sunday, and of course the wedding was very reflective of both of them. First, they got married in what looked like a sloppy beachside ceremony that was, I'm just gonna say it, trashy. This is not a statement about wealth or class, it's a statement about J.P. Miller and Susie Skinner Miller. Ugh. This ceremony literally gave off the same chaotic vibe that JP brings with him everywhere he goes and it even came through in still photos.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And of course, they would do this right when suspicions about both of them and both of their roles in their spouses' completely separate deaths have never been higher. Of course they decided to get married right as a major FBI investigation swirling around JPMiller should be wrapping up any day now. Of course, Suzy wore an ill-fitting circa-2002 wedding dress with a loose and oddly asymmetrical sweetheart neckline that looked like it had been hastily yanked off a life-size doll at Goodwill minutes before the event. And of course, JP wore a rumpled, knock-off Tommy Bahama linen suit that didn't fit him
Starting point is 00:09:37 in the slightest, accessorized with the ugliest slides on the planet that highlighted the ugliest, most monstrous looking toes I have ever seen. Honestly, he could have gone barefoot and I don't know if we would have noticed the toes as much. But homeboy put those tentacles on display." Guys, I promise I'm not going to spend too much time talking about JP Miller's toes, and I also promise I'm not being petty here.
Starting point is 00:10:05 They were that alarming to me. And honestly, I think they may be the origin of his villain story." We have spent over a year telling y'all how horrible this man is and how horribly he treated his wife Micah up until the day she died. But we never had the opportunity to expose the truth about what led him to this horrible behavior. And I think, I think we have to consider it might be his toes. Let me just say wow.
Starting point is 00:10:32 His toes take up half of his feet, and it looks like he could scale a building with them. Wait, is that why JP has been weirdly obsessed with Spider-Man all this time? I never believed in the Mark of the Beast until I saw JP Miller's feet. Huh. Okay, zooming out from the toes, the wedding looked strange, small, and cult-like. JP Miller's number one wingwoman, Trisha Ross, was there along with other members of Solid Rock or whatever they're calling their strip mall church these days that apparently is getting smaller by the day.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And guess who was not in attendance at the trashy churchy business wedding of the century? Their children! Between Suzy and JP Miller, the couple has seven children, and not one of them attended the wedding, according to sources. That says a whole lot. Now Susie Skinner is JP Miller's third wife. His five children have two different mothers. We all know that history repeats itself, but I'm sure Susie will tell herself that this
Starting point is 00:11:40 marriage of JP's will be different. That she somehow brings out a different, better side to this man. Now, I have to remind y'all quickly about some of the absolutely vile facts on JP's marriage history. Let me read you just one paragraph from a legal document signed by JP's first wife, Allison, about what led
Starting point is 00:12:06 to their divorce. Quote, We separated after I learned JP was having an adulterous affair with our former nanny, Micah Miller, who joined our church at the age of 15 and who was married to JP's best friend who was also on our church staff and serving as our church worship leader at the time of their affair. JP told me that in addition to his affair with Micah, he had employed prostitutes and
Starting point is 00:12:31 had been sexually inappropriate with several underage female members of our church. He blamed his immoral sexual behaviors on the sexual abuse he experienced for years by his father father Wayne Miller. Now that alone is a whole lot to unpack and don't worry, I'll get to old creepy Wayne in a minute. But first, Micah told police that JP started grooming her when she was 15 years old and when Micah was 18, she married a member of their church who was also JP's best friend. JP was the officiant at their wedding.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Then in 2015, the congregation discovered that Micah, who worked at the church and worked as a babysitter for JP's children, and JP were having an affair. Now, back in 2015, when Allison learned about JP's quote unquote inappropriate behavior with minor female members at the church, Allison says that she went to the girls and asked them to come forward and then she realized how much power JP had with the police when she said they would not listen to her.
Starting point is 00:13:39 The worst part is that we never saw any evidence of church elders stepping up and reporting the alleged abuse that took place at Solid Rock way back then. Rereading Alison's affidavit is like a warning letter to all women. Stay away from this man. She not only described in great detail what JP Miller had been accused of, but she described exactly why JP is dangerous
Starting point is 00:14:06 to the women that he is married to because of his circle of enablers. She wrote, quote, I began to realize the power JP seemed to have over leaders and officials in our community. And based upon having limited power, there was no way for me to ensure JP was held accountable and prevented from continuing to victimize innocent people." Now, she wrote this before Jane Doe I and Jane Doe II filed their massive lawsuits against JP, his father, and their churchy businesses, accusing JP of sexual abuse and their churches of enabling it. Allison also mentioned in that affidavit that one of her children played soccer with Susie
Starting point is 00:14:49 Skinner's children and in 2021, she found out that JP and Susie were having an affair. She wrote, quote, When I learned JP was exposing our children to yet another adulterous affair, I confronted JP and Susie and told them to not let it happen again. JP called me the day Susie's husband died in an alleged drowning accident, extremely upset and asking me to pray, which was incredibly bizarre."
Starting point is 00:15:19 Based on information and belief, just two weeks prior to this incident, Susie's husband had confronted JP and asked him to leave his wife and children alone. It is chilling," Allison wrote, to know that the spouses of both Susie and JP are now dead from tragic events. Yeah, the spouses of Susie and JP are dead from tragic events that are now being investigated. We need to add that part because it's important. Look, I don't know if Susie married JP so that they could both be protected by spousal privilege. I don't know if Susie married JP thinking now.
Starting point is 00:16:02 She wouldn't have to testify against him if the FBI investigation turns into charges. I don't know if Suzy is telling herself that JP is a changed man in the lie that this time will be different. But I do know if that's the plan, it's a bad one. Because getting married will only cover testimonies about the events while they were married, not when they were married to other people. You know, the other people who are now dead. I don't have an ounce of empathy for Suzy right now, especially after hearing her wretched
Starting point is 00:16:37 performance during her police interview. Suzy is well aware of her odds with JP, that history shows that she is more likely to end up dead or heartbroken than she is with a happily ever after with JP. I cannot scrape up any empathy for people who actively choose to not believe women and actively choose to enable abusers." But this marriage, one year after Micah's death, and just about one year to the date that Micah's list was published, is a tragedy. Two kids who lost their father in 2021 now have to call JP Miller their stepfather and
Starting point is 00:17:19 Wayne Miller their grandfather. Five kids who lost their stepmom a year ago now have to call Susie Skinner, the woman who was completely cool with neglecting her wheelchair-bound husband until the day he died, their new stepmom. Women have been the primary force in exposing J.P. Miller. Women make up a majority of Micah's army, who have protested outside of J.P.'s churchy businesses for over 50 Sundays. Women have made up the majority of TikTokers, podcasters, and YouTubers who have exposed JPMiller's dirty little secrets to the world. JPMiller should not feel comfortable in the presence of any woman for the rest of his life.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And yet, there he was on Sunday wearing his ugly linen, getting married to a woman for the sake of his own protection. That is the truly disgusting part about Sunday's wedding, and the fact that the smallest man who ever lived felt entitled to celebrate his disgraceful third marriage in public at the beach for God and all of the world to see. But we see you, JP. And hopefully, the FBI sees you too. And we'll be right back. And we'll be right back. of my book, Anything But Bland, but I'm excited to tell you that I'm launching my very own podcast called Good Skill, betting on yourself. I delve into the idea that success isn't merely about luck, but is instead achieved through honing skills and strategic efforts and planning.
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Starting point is 00:20:06 case. And what went down on September 9th, 2023 on Camp Swamp Road in Loras, South Carolina with Scott's killers, North Myrtle Beach businessman Weldon Boyd and Weldon's childhood friend and co-shooter Bradley Williams. I'm not going to go into any background here. So if this is your first time listening and you wanna catch up, check out our Scott Spivey playlist in the episode description first.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Let's start with this witness account. No, what was that, just emergency? Yeah, something doesn't look right over on Camp Swamp Road off of Highway 9 north Did somebody call that in already yes, we do have a call in for that location was there anything that you saw that you'd like to share to add to the call I didn't but The person in the truck in the front don't look alive Which truck are you talking about? Is it a
Starting point is 00:21:05 white truck or a black truck? Black truck. Black truck in front. She had a green shirt. I think it was a girl. Back truck was a white Dodge Rebel, I want to say, with a trailer on it. And it looks like they exchanged fire. Okay. You weren't involved, correct? No, I was coming home and everybody kind of just stopped and went around and I did the same only because I'm not. Okay. All right. And you said that the person in the black truck does not look like air life when you bomb? The person in the white truck is behind the black truck. It looked like I saw a silhouette of somebody in the white truck, but I didn't really get out and stop and look. It looks like they exchanged fire, and the person in the front was kind of sloped over
Starting point is 00:22:06 sitting in the driver's seat into the passenger seat door open driver's side door open. Okay. All right. We're getting this in here. I'm just adding that information. Okay. Okay. And since you said it didn't look like they were alive, I'm also going to get EMS going that way. Yeah, the person in the white truck could be. I don't know. The person in the black truck does not look alive. I didn't see any blood or anything, but she's sitting in the driver's seat, the head in the passenger seat. There's nothing funny about the killing of Scott'sivey, but I do think it's interesting
Starting point is 00:22:48 that the 911 caller thought Scott was a woman because one, obviously it's a statement in terms of the reliability of some eyewitness accounts. While Scott is in fact a man, this is a true version of the pastor by his impression of what he saw, which is meaningful because two, remember when Weldon's buddy at Horry County Police Department, the now former deputy chief Brandon Strickland, told Weldon this early the next morning after Weldon and Bradley killed Scott? Well, I'll tell you what I was told or what I heard not from my people, but from somebody
Starting point is 00:23:24 else who knew who this guy was. He must have been a pretty big dude because he said he was on rowing drill bad. He might have been having some fucking rowing raid shit. Brandon says that he didn't learn this from his people, but it's quite the coincidence, isn't it, that Brandon was allegedly told this by outsiders overnight and about a case he said he stared clear of at the very same time that his people allegedly found a bag of blue pills in Scott's truck that they believed to be steroids. I say allegedly for three reasons. One, I don't trust a single word that comes from Horry County Police Department in this case. Not a single claim. Not a single assertion. Two,
Starting point is 00:24:10 cops who are caught lying and interfering with investigations to help friends might not be above planting evidence. And three, Weldon Boyd was seen at Scott's truck more than once before the police arrived. Not making any accusations here. I'm simply saying that that, plus those credibility issues, necessitates the asking of questions. Anyway, we all know that from the very beginning Brandon was concerned about the optics of his relationship with Weldon. So it's not far-fetched to think that this is information Brandon knew from his people, but was just covering his butt. At the point of this phone call,
Starting point is 00:24:47 the pills had not been tested, obviously. According to a lab report from Cory B. Easterby, who was a criminalist at Horry County Police Department at the time, the pills were identified as methandionone, an anabolic steroid that's used to enhance athletic performance and physique. Reminder, the toxicology test done on Scott did not conclude he was on steroids at the time of his death. Meaning, a man who has no steroids in his system could not have been roid raging. It was pure conjecture on Brandon's part.
Starting point is 00:25:20 But funny that Brandon was planting in Weldon's head that Scott must have been a big dude who was Roy raging. Hang on to that thought because there's a reason I'm bringing that up. Meanwhile, the brain of the eyewitness who saw Scott's body for a fleeting second defaulted to I'm seeing the physique of a woman. At the time of his death Scott was fit, but definitely not a man whose body indicated vigorous workouts, never mind enhanced vigorous workouts. Few things to note here. One, the report on the pill test was not provided to Jennifer Spivey Foley when Horry County Police Department reluctantly and finally gave her the case file.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Two, she was able to obtain a copy of the report through the discovery process. Weldon's attorney, Ked Moss, apparently had a copy of it and had given it to an expert to look at. So why is that? Why would Horry County Police not include this report? Is it the same thing that happened with the so called mislabeled videos? Which, let's be clear, amid those mislabeled videos that they turned over to Jennifer in May, 2025, were recordings that were damaging to Horry County police. I know, shocker. We'll talk more about those in a future episode
Starting point is 00:26:36 because it is yet another chapter in the big book of Horry County Police Department corruption. Another thing to note is what Weldon did with that steroid information from the now former deputy chief Brandon Strickland because duh, he took that information and he ran with it. Here's Weldon, a homicide suspect at the time, talking to his mother not an hour and a half after the deputy chief of the Horry County Police Department gave him that little tidbit to weave into his self-defense narrative.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Brandon says he's known to have a steroid problem and he's hoping that when they do the top screen today that they're gonna see steroids in his system and say that he was on steroid rage. And that's what it does too. Steroids can make you go, I mean, they can make you very angry. But everybody that I've talked to from North Carolina that knows the guy, like one girl I've talked to used to ride four wheelers with them. They all say the same thing.
Starting point is 00:27:38 He's got a horrible temper. Not that I have to keep pointing this out to y'all, but I do hope you noted Weldon saying that Brandon was hoping that when they do the talk screen for Scott today, that they're hoping to see steroids in a system. Also Weldon saying, everybody that I talked to from North Carolina, how many people could that possibly be Weldon? It is literally still the morning after the shooting and you were at the police station until after 2 a.m.
Starting point is 00:28:09 by your own account. But that's not all. Here's Weldon about 15 minutes after that call talking to a friend the morning after he killed Scott. Weldon and Bradley were on their way to Palmetto State Armory, which is owned in part by the brother of South Carolina Attorney General Allen Wilson. Weldon and Bradley were on their way to buy new pistols because that's apparently
Starting point is 00:28:31 what you do in South Carolina after killing a man and having the police seize your weapons as evidence. Some people I know do know him and they all say he had a bad anger problem and the police believe he has a steroid problem, but they're going to do the investigation. It is legit comical that Brandon took the care and effort to say that the steroid information did not come from his people and Weldon just turned around and made some phone calls and was like, so anyway, the police are saying Scott had a steroid problem. Here's a friend talking to Weldon less than two hours after that call.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Hopefully the top screen will show alcohol or steroids or something. Why does the steroid thing matter? Well, one reason is that according to phone calls, team Weldon believe they needed a narrative that would counter any thought of Scott would never do what you're saying he did. About 24 hours after killing Scott, Weldon learned of a fight Scott had gotten into in college more than 10 years earlier. He decided to add that to his narrative and changed it to eight years ago. Here's a call with a friend on September 11th, 2023, just two days after Scott's death. What's his motive? Was he just crazy?
Starting point is 00:30:04 The dude has a steroid problem and a history of battery and anger. So that's what we're working on now. Like eight years ago in college, he beat a guy into the hospital with a maglite. So that's what we're working on now. Scott got angry once. By the way, sources I've spoken with who knew both Scott and the other guy said that there was a fight back in the day, but it's not how Weldon described it. And also, Scott remained friends with the other guy afterward. Here's Weldon on September 12, 2023, talking with
Starting point is 00:30:40 a friend. Ken's hoping that something's gonna come back in his system because of the way he was acting. Yeah. And apparently there's, I mean, there's people that are saying he's got bad steroid problems. Here's Weldon a little bit later that same day talking to Taylor Mossman, the estranged wife of Benji Spivey. Other than that, this dude's got a history of steroid problems.
Starting point is 00:31:10 They're doing the autopsy today in a top screen. We're hoping that something was in his system because he was acting like a maniac. So a refresher on who Benji Spivey is. He is the man that Weldon thought was having an affair with his baby mama. Benji's father is named Scott Spivey, by the way, and hence why the Horry County grapevine believed that the Scott Spivey that Weldon killed was somehow entangled with Weldon's baby mama drama. Weldon wanted Benji's cell phone so that Detective Alan Jones could call him and be
Starting point is 00:31:47 told that the Scott's 5E Weldon shot was not connected to Benji. Here is Weldon and Benji's wife talking about the coincidence of it all. You don't want me to send you his number or you do? Yeah, send it to me and then I'll text it to the detective and then I'll just tell the detective don't tell Benji where you got his number because they're just trying that's a rumor that this guy's family has started that I mean he is kind of crazy oh it's it's such a damn coincidence and I hate that it is but I can't help that, you know Hang on what's up? Okay, thanks
Starting point is 00:32:36 So but what are people saying I'm harsh about all this shit No one's really said anything honestly except for I mean Bobby and Diane came over The other night and like that that very next night And they were like have you heard from him and I said well he texts me really quickly, but I haven't really heard from him otherwise And then they were just worried about you, but no one said anything good Myself so I don't really know that's what I've been trying to keep it to myself, so I don't really know. That's what I've been told to do, stay off social media just until this thing blows over. They've already told us it's self-defense, we're good. They're just trying not to close the case out too quick
Starting point is 00:33:17 because they don't want the family to say that it was rushed or not done right. But I mean, there's five witnesses that watch this guy get out of his car, rack his firearm, aim at me and try to gun me down. So crazy world we live in. I'm glad you're okay. But I've kind of gotten the go ahead that I can start socializing with people again this morning. So I'll be able to start responding to you more now. But.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Okay, stick a pin in the part about the witnesses. Now we gave you the answer to the question about who is Benji Spivey, but not this question. Why was Weldon talking to Taylor Mossman, the wife of the guy who allegedly was in a romantic situationship at one point with Weldon's baby mama? I don't have the answer to that, but what I can do is read these texts that were sent to Weldon from Taylor's phone in the aftermath of the shooting. Actually, I'll have David read them because that's more fun for all of us. September 10, 2023, 5 15 p.m. I know you can't respond, but single-tier emoji. I wish I could hug
Starting point is 00:34:36 you. My stomach is in knots for you. I hope you are okay. Let me know if you need anything, I hope you are okay. Let me know if you need anything. Anything at all. Double pink hearts emoji. September 10, 2023, 520 PM. I was just texting your mom cause I didn't think I was gonna hear from you. God, I'm so happy you're okay. September 10, 2023, 642 PM.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I just wanna snuggle the shit out of you. I'm so happy you're okay. I'm sorry I keep bugging, but I can't stop thinking about you. So that's, um, messy and confusing. It leads to this bizarre summary. On the day Weldon Boyd shot and killed a man named Scott Spivey, his ex-fiancee, who was also the mother of his unborn child, who he was already suing for custody of, even though he was at that point
Starting point is 00:35:36 uncertain that the baby was his, had just returned the $19,000 engagement ring and $60,000 dream car he bought for her for Mother's Day when she was already not talking to him anymore And wanted him out of her life completely He had previously accused his now ex-fiance of having an affair with a married man named Benji Spivey whose father is named Scott Spivey minutes before getting into some sort of road rage Altercation with a Scott Spivey Minutes before getting into some sort of road rage altercation with a Scott Spivey, Weldon was complaining to friends and family that his ex-fiance had shown up that afternoon at his aunt's house per their arrangement to drop off the ring and the car.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And the person who drove his ex-fiance away from his aunt's house appeared to be a man. And a few minutes before that road altercation with a Scott Spivey, Weldon had posted the ring and the car for sale on Facebook Marketplace from the parking lot of Tractor Supply. Then Weldon chased a man named Scott Spivey for almost 10 miles and continued to follow him on a road he didn't need to take before shooting and killing a man named Scott Spivey. But not the Scott Spivey related to Benji Spivey, which he confirmed with his alleged cuddle buddy, Benji Spivey's then estranged wife, Taylor. I know we say this a lot, but if this were the plot of a TV show, it would be too on
Starting point is 00:36:59 the nose for the audience. Okay, I know I've made my point about Weldon talking about the steroid tidbit he had gotten from the Horry County Police Department the morning after killing Scott. There were a few more times when Weldon brought up the need for Scott to have been on steroids, but this is the one I want you to hear because it explains why Brandon Strickland had told Weldon about the possibility of steroid use immediately that next morning. And it explains why Weldon was making sure that this was being put out in his rumor ecosystem. Here he's talking with his parents on the evening of September 12th, 2023. Ken said in this kind of situation alcohol is not gonna help our argument.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Ken said alcohol won't really... I forgot how he worded it, but in this situation the alcohol isn't going to be hard hitting. He said we need narcotics or we need steroids. Yeah, and I don't think alcohol can make you crazy. That's why Ken said that alcohol isn't going to be something that helps you. But it doesn't matter at this point. The evidence shows he initiated the fight, he was committed to the fight, and he tried to stay in the fight.
Starting point is 00:38:20 So we never left our vehicle. We only defended ourselves and unfortunately he got killed. Well, that's Sam Bradley eating Joel's dinner. I had a damn blast, but... Well, that never gets less shocking. Again, is there any more appropriate punctuation to the sick and twisted statement that someone had a blast killing someone else for apparently no reason? Then belching? It comes in second only to when Weldon said this very same thing to his co-shooter,
Starting point is 00:39:02 Bradley Williams, and then giggled right after he said it. Anyway, so this is likely why the now former deputy chief of the Horry County Police Department dropped that little tidbit about the possibility of steroid use the morning after Scott's killing because he knew alcohol wasn't going to be enough for Weldon to justify the killing as self-defense, according to Weldon. Which sorry to skip around so much, but Luna Shark reporter and researcher Beth Braden discovered that yet another Horry County Police Department officer, Officer Kerry Higgs, who was at the scene of the shooting on September 9, 2023,
Starting point is 00:39:39 did something to help Weldon Boyd escape consequence. This is just as bad as the other thing Beth discovered about Officer Damon Vescovy and his note to Weldon advising Weldon to act like a victim and warning Weldon about the body camera. This is just as despicable and should be a fireable offense in our opinion. Horry County Police swears it has a team of investigators combing through the evidence to see if there was any wrongdoing by its officers. Chief Chris Leonhart lied publicly when he claimed that his team had discovered the Viscovi note at the same time Sled did.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Because he apparently wasn't aware then that Luna Shark found the footage of the note and alerted attorney Mark Tinsley who told Sled. And he apparently didn't know that we were holding off on reporting it until Sled could question Vescovy. According to Leonhart, three officers have been disciplined in connection with the case so far. Other than Brandon Strickland and Damian Vescovy, we don't know the names of the others. Maybe it's Kerry Higgs. Maybe the Horry County Police team already found what Beth found.
Starting point is 00:40:44 But Beth confirmed Tuesday that Higgs is still employed there, which would be a strong indicator to us anyway that Higgs either doesn't know about this and is finding out today, or they decided not to fire the guy despite how egregious this is. Here is the advice that Higgs gave to Weldon at the scene of Scott Spivey's killing. The more you don't talk to anybody, it sucks more and more that can get misconstrued. All right. You're fine.
Starting point is 00:41:27 You know what I mean? But you don't want to sit back and start stutter stepping and going back and forth because this person said something. You're like, oh yeah, well this person, you don't want to do any of that. All right. Hory County police officer, Kerry Higgs, or should I call him attorney at law Kerry Higgs, gave this advice to Weldon at 7.06 p.m. after Weldon had already been told by Deputy Chief Brandon Strickland that he
Starting point is 00:41:51 had the right people coming to take care of him. And after Weldon had already been told via note by Officer Damon Vescovi to act like a victim, Higgs warned Weldon to not talk to anyone. Higgs said it sucks to focus on whatever. And presumably whatever is the fact that Weldon followed Scott onto Camp Swamp Road and maybe shot first. By the way, time and audio analysis of Weldon's 911 call will be the judge of that. Because the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, etc. shots are caught on audio, remember, it would seem logical that someone would want to test that recording to see which shots were Weldon's,
Starting point is 00:42:30 which shots were Bradley's, and which shots, if any, were Scott's. Higgs also told Weldon that once the detectives got there, that Weldon would have a better timeline and chronological list of what happened. Why? Because the detectives would have the whole picture of the 911 calls by then and what the witnesses were saying. Why would Weldon need them to give him a timeline of something he lived himself?
Starting point is 00:42:57 If everything that Weldon said happened to him happened the way he said it did, then it should not matter what anyone else says, right? Higgs appears to be telling Weldon to not talk to the police department and not talk to the witnesses until the facts are known. Because once those facts were known, then Weldon could shape his story and not have to backtrack or change anything
Starting point is 00:43:21 he was saying right then on that camera. By the way, I have spoken with a lot of police officers in my career. If there's one thing they love, it is suspects talking on their own free will. Their jobs are so much easier and so much more fun when there's someone who might have just committed a crime who doesn't exercise their right to remain silent.
Starting point is 00:43:40 But of course, no one seems to have read Weldon and Bradley their Miranda rights at the scene. Nevertheless, Officer Higgs clearly wasn't working for the police department when he advised Weldon to stop talking. At least not the police department that is funded by the public and is supposed to serve the public. He seemed to be working for the police department that punishes officers for not falling in line with the personal favors being done by the deputy chief. At any rate, Chief Leonhart owes the public an explanation for that because all we can see
Starting point is 00:44:11 from where we're sitting and all the public can now see from where they're sitting is yet another Horry County police officer protecting Weldon Boyd from doing or saying anything that might point to Wellden shooting Scott first because Wellden was ready for a fight that evening because he was gearing up for a good guy with a gun storyline and Unfortunately Scott gave Welden an opportunity to make that happen and not because Welden was acting in self-defense Honestly, if we lived in Horry County these days and the Horry County police responded to a scene where we were the potential subjects, we'd be making it a point to ask for the Weldon Boyd special,
Starting point is 00:44:51 the one that comes with helpful notes, concierge service by the deputy chief, and free legal advice from road officers. We will be right back. We will be right back. $2.50 a month. Learn more at pcexpress.ca. Like we keep saying, Weldon was very concerned about there only being one narrative out there that he and Bradley had killed Scott
Starting point is 00:45:37 because Scott had shot at them first. Weldon took offense at Scott's family posting photos of Scott the day after his death as if it were a personal slight against him and his narrative. More importantly, Weldon instinctively seemed to understand that establishing a narrative that would vindicate him was something he needed to work on from the second he dialed 911. In four separate recorded phone calls, Weldon admitted to people that he knew he had to
Starting point is 00:46:04 have 911 on the line to protect them so that they could hear what was happening. And as you know, what they heard happening was 100% from Weldon's point of view. He narrated what was happening, except for the gunshots, obviously. Recorded gunshots have their own stories to tell sometimes.
Starting point is 00:46:21 According to Weldon, after the shooting stopped on Scott's end, he went over to Scott's truck and confirmed that he was dead. He said he didn't touch the body or do anything. But again, was that the only time he went over to Scott's truck? He took pictures of Scott's body. When were those taken? And what else did Weldon observe and determine about the scene?
Starting point is 00:46:41 Those are questions to answer another day. So after going over to Scott's truck, Welen called his mother to tell her he killed someone and for her to come to the scene. And he immediately began working the crowd. Remember this? Yeah, yeah. Did you see that? What happened on the road?
Starting point is 00:46:58 No. Okay. The dude tried to run us out the road and when we turned here he got there, got out and aimed a gun at us. We're good. He's hit. Did y'all see it happen? You saw him swirming at me?
Starting point is 00:47:10 Did you see him holding a gun at me? You saw the gun? I think so. I've seen you go off the side. He ran me off the road. I've seen that. Please talk to the police. I had to shoot him.
Starting point is 00:47:18 He shot at my truck. He got out the car and I shot him. He shot at my truck. He shot at my truck. He shot at my truck. He shot at my truck. He shot at my truck. He shot at my truck. He shot at my truck. He shot at the road. He ran me off the road. Please talk to the police. I had to shoot him. He shot at my truck.
Starting point is 00:47:28 He got out of the car, aimed a gun at me, and shot at us. Please talk to the cop and let him know what he was doing out there. You shot him? He shot, yes. He just pulled the gun at our head right at me and my friend. On the road he held the gun right at our face. You saw, okay, please stay and talk to the cop. They've all saw him do that.
Starting point is 00:47:51 You're good, man. Weldon's like, did you see what happened before I shot him? No? Well, let me tell you what you didn't see happen. And let me connect it to the erratic driving you saw on Highway 9 with no context. That call to his mother was about two minutes after shooting and killing Scott, by the way. We all react in different ways to trauma,
Starting point is 00:48:10 but it's notable to us that Weldon was so quick on the trigger regarding the witnesses. I think you could have a thousand people experience what Weldon said he experienced with Scott, and as victims, their initial reactions would have been more like, I just saw my life flash before my eyes, and holy cow, I had to kill someone. But Weldon was immediately on the offense, building his case. Again, people react in different ways, but let's not forget that Weldon's way included a lie. He was also telling people,
Starting point is 00:48:37 including Deputy Chief Brandon Strickland, that he had pulled onto Camp Swamp Road from Highway 9 to check his trailer when he encountered Scott. He even, at a few points, described it as an ambush. But we all know what he said to 911. He said, I'm going to keep following him and there's about to be a shootout. So we've gone through all the witness calls, interviews
Starting point is 00:48:58 and statements and obviously Weldon's recorded calls with friends, family and Horry County police officers. Weldon repeatedly asserts that all, family, and Horry County police officers. Weldon repeatedly asserts that all the witnesses were backing up his story. He said there were five of them. He tells everyone that Scott was a menace and that he and Bradley shot and killed Scott in self-defense. That Scott shot first. But again, can anyone really take Weldon's word about that? Neither he nor Bradley nor their attorneys nor the Horry County Police Department have any credibility here with us. Today we want to start taking a look at what the witness is, such as the one who
Starting point is 00:49:30 called 911 to say he saw a woman's body dead in a black truck on Camp Swamp Road, say they saw. Before Mandy and I went on a break two weeks ago, we told you a little bit about a 20 year old witness who called 911 before Weldon to report Scott Spivey for driving erratically and allegedly pointing his pistol at her. This is Weldon's key witness, even though there are several holes in her story. Her testimony is allegedly
Starting point is 00:49:55 what the South Carolina Attorney General's Office relied on in their unfortunate decision not to file charges against Weldon and Bradley in 2024. We'll save her full account for another episode because there's a lot to talk about there and we want to give it context. We're going to call her witness number one though, but let's put her aside and let's talk about the other witnesses starting with a guy from Virginia who was driving down Camp Swamp Road with his wife at the time of the shooting.
Starting point is 00:50:20 We're going to call him witness number two. The only witness who actually saw Scott Spivey on Camp Swamp Road with a gun as this was happening. We believe witness number two's eyewitness account is not only important, but the most telling of all the accounts. So let's start with what he said on the 911 call. Okay, so a guy got out of his truck using a black truck, got out of the truck with a pistol drawn, the slide was open.
Starting point is 00:50:45 He told the guy, do not follow me anymore. The guy in the white truck had his gun drawn pointed at him. And um, the guy in the black truck kind of like moved his pistol and the guy in the white truck just unloaded a complete magazine at the guy. Saw through his back window and I think he might have hit him. Witness number two saw Scott alive, gun in hand. Witness number two saw Scott alive gun in hand. Notice witness number two did not say that Scott's gun was pointed at anyone. He says Scott kind of moved his hand with the pistol in it. Notice he did not say pointed the pistol or shot the pistol and then he says the guy in the white truck just unloaded a complete magazine on Scott. Moreover, witness number two says he saw Weldon pointing his gun at the time when Scott did
Starting point is 00:51:32 not appear to have his weapon pointed or aimed at anyone, right? Right off the bat, the only witness to the shooting is using words that do not portray Scott as the aggressor, but rather as the person who felt like he was being chased. And right off the bat, the only witness to the shooting is using words that portray Weldon as taking excessive action in the moment. Unloaded his magazine, he said, he did not say protected himself. He did not say shot back or return fire Unloaded his magazine when Scott moved his hand with the pistol in it The word unloaded could be construed to mean shot an excessive amount of times depending on the context
Starting point is 00:52:18 I think we can all agree that it's a good word to use when describing someone rapidly shooting without pause. The dispatcher asked again, which truck driver fired their weapon? Okay, and what color of the vehicle was the vehicle that the individual within that actually shot the weapon? It's a white Dodge Ram with a trailer on it. They're both sitting there.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I did not see the guy that did the. I did not get out of the car. The guy that did the shooting did not get out of the truck. I'm not going to. I'm... Holy shit. I mean, I was driving by and bullets were going by. I'm like, I'm about to cuss and I'm like... All right, you're okay.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And this was into the black truck. What kind of truck was the black truck? The black truck was in a Dodge Ram 2. He shot at the guy and completely blew out his back window. I don't know if there's kids in that car. I don't know who's in that car, but he just unloaded into the truck. Trucks were unloaded into the black Dodge. Scott was actually driving a black Chevy Silverado,
Starting point is 00:53:26 which witness number two corrects later in the call, but close enough. Notice the word again, unloaded. Witness number two also saw Scott's back window get blown out by Weldon and Bradley. They were quote, just unloading into this truck. Also, did you catch how witness number two made the best point of all?
Starting point is 00:53:46 He didn't know who else was in the black truck. There could have been kids in the backseat for all anyone knew at this point. Children, think about that. And witness number two was clearly terrified. As he was saying this, thinking an active shooter could have been lurking and waiting for him too. What he just witnessed was terrifying and honestly props to him for sticking around.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And you said that you thought somebody was hit with the shots that went in there? I mean it looked like he was hit. I don't know. I don't see the guy. Okay, are you still in the area or are you? I'm right behind him now, yeah. Okay. The one that shot was a Dodge TRX white truck. The car that was shot into was a black Chevy Silverado. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Okay, well that seems clear as day, right? The only witness to the shooting. The only person other than Weldon and Bradley who saw Scott alive in the seconds before he was killed, did not say that Scott pointed his weapon or shot his weapon. Instead, he says that Weldon and Bradley unloaded their weapons into Scott's truck. And then, witness number two says this to the dispatcher. I'm back up out of any type of road across our car. OK.
Starting point is 00:55:26 All right, and are the vehicles pulled over at Highway 9 and Camp Swamp Road? Camp Swamp Road, when you pull in, there's a white truck. The driver's out talking to people, trying to tell people not to go up there. Um, he's in the middle of the road. You really can't even drive. No one's trying to pass cause that dude up there, they don't know what's going on. The guy got shot I think.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Okay. But they're not on nine anymore. They're off on Camp Swamp Road. Right when you turn in to Swamp, Camp Road. Yeah. Okay. All right. I just wanted to go ahead and put that in there for the responding officers.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Okay. I'm calm now, but I literally just driving by and shots are being fired by. I apologize for cutting. That's all right, I understand. Thank you for calling in and letting us know about it though. But I was just updating that information in there. Thank you ma'am. Okay, so the driver, which is Weldon, was out telling people not to go up to Scott's truck. And uh, witness number two was just talking to Weldon in the middle of this 911 call. We can't hear exactly what loudmouth Weldon said to him, but we know what he said to the
Starting point is 00:56:38 two other witnesses around that same time from the call to his mama that we shared a little bit ago. And that Scott had aimed the gun at them and shot at them, which again, is not what witness number two, the only person who witnessed the shooting, said he saw. But listen to how witness number two's language begins to change after talking to Weldon.
Starting point is 00:57:03 He starts to hedge a little when incorporating Weldon's version, which was being carried forward by other witnesses who Weldon had also spoken with. The account starts to change a little, and then it gets a little confusing, which makes us wonder, was Weldon standing nearby as witness number two continued to speak with the dispatcher?
Starting point is 00:57:46 Yeah, the guy in the black truck jumped out with a pistol. as witness number two continued to speak with the dispatcher. I just know that the guy in the white, you know, one... Oh, boy. I think he's hit. I can't even see him. I don't know if he's off in the woods, if he ran, if he's in a truck. I wanted to pull up to see if he's okay. I just don't want to get shot at. Okay. That's no problem. I want you to keep your... I want to keep you and your partner safe in there, okay? I think they both returned fire to each other.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Nobody knows who the gentleman in the black truck is. No one. Like, We can't see him. OK. So I just want the officer to be safe and naked here. And you said no one knows where the driver from the black truck is? No. OK.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Ma'am, so just so you know, there's somebody else that saw it. The guy in the black truck was trying to run the white truck off the road. Like literally drove the white truck off the road. Like, like literally drove the white truck off the road. He was like way down at Longs when it started, the guy in the black truck was chasing the white truck down, trying to drive them off the road, then jumped. That's, I guess, when he got out with the pistol. And that's when I saw him.
Starting point is 00:58:38 But there's other people here that said this guy's been chasing this guy in the white truck for a couple of miles now, trying to drop them off the road. Notice how witness number two is now piecing together what happened based on Jason's gone to White Trucks for a couple miles now, trying to drop him off the road. Notice how witness number two is now piecing together what happened based on what other people around him were saying while also trying to honor what he saw with his own two eyes. This is no shade to witness number two because a lot was going on and he was just trying to be helpful. But the story does start to change a little when Weldon and Weldon's witnesses,
Starting point is 00:59:05 meaning the people he had already spoken to, began to weigh in. Witness number two was now saying, I don't know who shot first. But notice how he still didn't mention Scott aiming, never mind shooting his pistol at all, until after talking to Weldon. And notice how he hedges. He says, I think they both returned fire at each other. That statement is not based on what he saw, but rather what he was being told in the moment. The use of I think is witness number two, again honoring what he knows he saw,
Starting point is 00:59:38 while also accounting for what he was being told. He's equivocating because he either consciously or subconsciously knows it does not match what he saw. Then you can hear Walden Boyd screaming his story to witnesses after realizing that Scott was in fact dead. I'm on the phone now with one. I told you.
Starting point is 00:59:57 He got out and then had a gun. He wrapped it and only stopped. And I mean, we can't do that. No, I can't. I'm going to call the police. It's a fucking business. It's a fucking business. Okay, okay, this is important. Weldon had said multiple times at this point that Scott shot first.
Starting point is 01:00:27 But to witness number two, who Weldon knows saw the whole thing happen, he changes his story. He did not say that Scott shot first. Instead, it sounds like he says he got out and he had a gun, racked his own shot, and I mean, you can't do that. Oh, Weldon, something tells me that this is not the first time your big old good ol' boy
Starting point is 01:00:49 mouth got you in trouble. Because first of all, Weldon, you already said that Scott racked his gun back on Highway 9. For those of you all like me who don't know much about guns, that means that he put the bullet in the chamber and prepared the pistol for firing. But if the pistol was already racked and the chamber was loaded way back when Weldon said it happened in his call to 911 before turning onto Camp Swamp Road, then it would have been loaded and ready to fire by the time Scott hopped out of the car on Camp Swamp Road.
Starting point is 01:01:23 He wouldn't have to rack it again. And if he did, a cartridge would have been ejected, which did not exist at the scene of the shooting, according to the case file photos. And yet that's his story to this witness who saw what happened, who saw that Scott only had the slide open and locked and wasn't pointing the gun.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Wilden is claiming that Scott racked his gun and that was the threatening action that triggered him to stand his ground and defend himself. Hence him saying, you can't do that. In other words, you can't do that and expect not to get hurt. You can't rack your gun and not expect someone to take that as a threat. You can't do that is yet another slip of the tongue from Weldon in our opinion. He needed witness number two to understand that Scott's actions, the one Weldon knows witness number two saw, appeared to be threatening to him.
Starting point is 01:02:14 He wouldn't need to tell that to witness number two if he knew witness number two would have seen Scott pointing the gun at Weldon or shooting at Weldon. He would only need to offer that up as explanation for why he shot Scott. You can't do that. On scene, Horry County police detective Trey Sean McQueen interviewed witness number two, who told him that it wasn't until he had passed Weldon's truck and saw Weldon pointing his pistol at Scott that he then saw Scott in his rearview mirror begin to raise his pistol. In the same
Starting point is 01:02:46 interview he also told Detective McQueen that he saw that Scott's gun had the slide locked back. And this is important. If Scott wanted to shoot Weldon and the gun was loaded, he'd first have to point the weapon, but he'd also have to release the slide. Again, neither Mandy nor I is super familiar with guns, but from what we've been told and shown, it would have been very visually obvious to anyone mildly familiar with pistols that Scott's gun was not immediately ready to shoot.
Starting point is 01:03:18 So when I was about, with the black truck is, I saw a black truck stop quick in the road. And I kind of slowed down his country road and when I like the car door flew open and I saw a guy get out of the black pistol screaming okay um at that point I yelled my wife gun and like kind of pushed her down and kind of you know so I started coming past and at that point the white truck kind of had come to a stop. And then when I looked over, sorry, you okay? When I looked over, I saw the guy in the white truck. I just saw a pistol like this, like kind of like pointing at the black truck.
Starting point is 01:03:59 And then that's when I looked in my rear view mirror and I saw the guy with the black gun, I mean the guy with the black gun's pistol was coming up. And then I just heard shots and I saw glass exploding from the windshield and I just punched it, took off. When I turned the corner, we called 911. I went up and took a U-turn and kind of came back here. Okay, so there again, witness number two
Starting point is 01:04:20 said what he saw and in what order. He said that he saw Scott getting out of the black truck, screaming at Weldon with his pistol in hand. He told his wife to get down. He saw Weldon pointing his gun at Scott's truck. And then he saw Scott moving his pistol upward. After he saw Weldon pointing his weapon at Scott, and then he heard gunfire,
Starting point is 01:04:45 which he told the 911 dispatcher came from the white truck with Weldon and Bradley. But this is not how McQueen characterized what witness number two said in his official report. Here is David reading what Horry County Detective McQueen wrote about his interview with Witness No. 2. Witness No. 2 and his wife were traveling on Camp Swamp Road, approaching the stop sign at Highway 9 intersection, when he observed the black truck come to a fast stop and subject
Starting point is 01:05:18 exited the truck with a black gun with the slide in a back position and was yelling. Mr. McMurrow advised he saw the driver of the black truck start to raise the gun up at which time he yelled to his wife and pushed her down in the vehicle. Mr. McMurrow further stated that he then seen the driver of the white truck come to a stop as the driver of the black truck was out of the vehicle and then observed the driver of the white truck with a gun pointed at the black truck. Mr. McMurrow advised as they passed by the gunshots erupted and he turned right on Highway 9 and called 911. Witness number 2's wife stated that she had been playing on her phone and her husband
Starting point is 01:06:07 yelled for her to get down. Weird, huh? He changed the order of what happened, because in his recorded interview, witness number two said that he saw Scott's pistol come up after he had seen Weldon pointing his gun at Scott, not vice versa. And that is not what the detective wrote in his report. And this is a perfect example of how everything in this investigation, including the quote unquote mistakes that were made either due to carelessness or corruption, they all bent
Starting point is 01:06:43 toward Weldon's favor. Witness number two was asked to make a written statement after his interview with Detective McQueen. In a short paragraph, he puts the information not in chronological order like he did in the recorded interview, but rather writes about everything that he saw Scott do and then he writes about everything that he saw Weldon doing. If an investigator were to go off of this written statement in the detective's report and not watch the interview or listen to the 911 call, the two first versions of history
Starting point is 01:07:16 that were closest to the event, they could sloppily conclude that witness number two appeared to see Scott aim his gun at Weldon first. And it's discrepancies like this one that prove, once again, that there was no real investigation by Sled or the Attorney General's office in this case. It was thumbed over. It looks like they relied totally upon Horry County Police's investigation, even though both Sled and the Attorney General's office maintained that they gave a thorough look at this case, a case that they knew was in
Starting point is 01:07:48 their hands because of a conflict of interest in both the police agency and solicitor's office. It was in their hands because Ory County Police and the 15th Circuit solicitor Jimmy Richardson both said that they were doing this in the best interest of the public to be transparent. Fledd likely read McQueen's report on witness number two and was like, well, that's a check for Weldon. He said Scott raised his pistol before Weldon. But that's not what witness number two said to the 911 dispatcher or in his interview with the police. In Weldon's interview with the police, he also mischaracterized what witness number two said.
Starting point is 01:08:25 And of course, it wasn't fact checked. It just went down as the record. Weldon told police in his interview that witness number two might have been the guy who told him that he had seen Scott driving erratically. And we know that would be impossible because witness number two was headed toward highway nine on Camp Swamp Road, coming from Virginia and headed toward Myrtle Beach. But again, no one applied critical thinking there. And why would they? That point, Deputy Chief Brandon Strickland had already been meddling around in the case. Officer Damon Viscovich had already taken the phone out of Weldon's hand to talk to
Starting point is 01:08:58 his little friend, Ken Moss, Weldon's attorney. And then Viscovich immediately turned around and wrote, act like a victim on a piece of paper to show Weldon while also warning him that there were body cameras. And officer Kerry Higgs had already advised Weldon to stop talking until the detectives could determine the timeline and chronology of events. A chronology that they misrepresented in their own report. Oh, remember how we mentioned the mislabeled videos earlier? We're going to end today's episode on the final 17 seconds of one of them. The very end of a video belonging to Horry County police officer
Starting point is 01:09:34 Mark Johnson. And that is when the dash cam cuts right off. Imagine that. A video that wasn't part of the case file that was given to Jennifer Spivey Foley that was only released after Beth Brayd had found the footage of Vescovich writing that note to Weldon. That was presented to the public, but Chief Chris Linehart as mislabeled evidence that was recently discovered by the Horry County Police Team investigating this case of corruption, has a cut-off phone call between an officer on the scene and Weldon's pal, the now former deputy chief, Brandon Strickland, who again, was immediately aware of the optics of what he was doing for Weldon,
Starting point is 01:10:29 and still denied having any influence over the case. Obviously, we don't know what old Brandon told this officer in the call that didn't get fully recorded, but we do know what Brandon told Weldon the next morning. I said, this is one of the hardest things I think I've ever dealt with, having a friend of mine involved in something like that. I can't be there for him." Which Brandon should we believe?
Starting point is 01:11:11 The one who acted annoyed about Weldon before getting cut off or the one that bent over backward for him? So hard to tell. Next week we'll talk more about this case and we'll also be giving y'all a refresher on the case that we have been covering since before Micah Francis was found dead, and that is the Sarah Lynn Colucci case out of Somerville, South Carolina, a case that finally goes to trial on June 16th. It's a case that deserves more attention because even though there are many twists and turns
Starting point is 01:11:43 and it has such a compelling backstory, the story of Sarah Lynn's death is not unique. Too many men claim that their wives died by suicide and too many investigators take that man at his word. It only ends when we make it end. And to do that, we need to be loud. So stay tuned, stay loud, stay pesky and stay in the sunlight.
Starting point is 01:12:13 ["The Star-Spangled Banner"] True Sunlight is a Lunashark production created by me, Mandy Matney. Co-hosted and reported by journalist Liz Farrell. Research support provided by Beth Brayden. Audio production support provided by Jamie Hoffman. Case file management provided by Kate Thomas. Learn more about our mission and membership at lunasharkmedia.com. Interruptions provided by Luna and Joe Pesky.

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