Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #107 - The Wheels of Injustice: When Public Agencies Protect Alleged Predators...

Starting point is 00:00:00 There's regular cold. And then there's the mountains are blue cold. Mountain cold refreshment. Coors light. The chill choice. Celebrate responsibly. Must be legal drinking age. I don't know why the wheels of justice turn so slowly when it comes to good old boys like RJ May, the South Carolina

Starting point is 00:00:27 state representative who was finally charged with child sex crimes over a year after authorities initially flagged his online activity and sent a report to the AG's office. But I am furious that he was allowed to get re-elected after taking a closer look at the timeline. And I am disgusted by the people who made this mess that taxpayers and victims continue to pay the price for. My name is Mandy Matney. This is True Sunlight, a podcast exposing crime and corruption previously known as the Murdoch Murders podcast.

Starting point is 00:01:12 True Sunlight is a Lunashtark production written with journalist Liz Farrell. This week marks the tragic 10th anniversary of Stephen Smith's death. Liz and I have been working on this case for six years now. And trust me when I say it eats at both of us every single day that we still don't have answers. My heart breaks for Stephen's mother Sandy and his twin sister Stephanie, who have led a courageous pursuit of justice in the past decade. A pursuit that has inspired murder victims' families around the world. Stephanie, who have led a courageous pursuit of justice in the past decade. A pursuit that has inspired murder victims' families around the world.

Starting point is 00:01:50 In this week's Cup of Justice, our team looked back on the twists and turns of reporting on Stephen's story in the last six years. This episode is an incredible compilation of everything we know and don't about Stephen's death, and I hope y'all listen to it, knowing that any detail, big or small, snapping into place now could bust this case wide open. To make sure that Sandy feels supported and continues to have hope for justice in Stephen's case, we will be walking in Hampton, South Carolina, where Steven once walked, at 8 a.m. on Saturday, starting at the Gooding Cemetery.

Starting point is 00:02:30 Go to walkingwithsteven.com to sign up today and please be pesky and politely ask your local news station to come cover the event. Can't wait to see y'all on Saturday. For starters, we have got to talk about South Carolina State Representative R.J. May, the Republican lawmaker who was recently charged with 10 federal counts of distributing child sex abuse material. The story has been reported on by pretty much every major news outlet in the country. Not just because of the horrendous nature of the videos he was allegedly sending to hundreds of other people, but because R.J.

Starting point is 00:03:13 May was a leader in our state's Freedom Caucus, a group of ultra-conservative lawmakers who, in part, purport to protect children by demonizing progressives in their values of inclusion. Until R.J. May was indicted, he was a major political player in South Carolina, known for splitting the Republican Party and using his consulting business to recruit ultra-right-wing candidates against regular Republicans. This man, along with the backing of the Freedom Caucus, turned our statehouse from a circus to a dumpster fire.

Starting point is 00:03:52 And he made a living doing this. And before some of y'all start yelling at me on social media for talking about politics, I just need to say, this story involves crime, corruption, and government failure in my own state. Hundreds of y'all have asked us to report on this story and it would be a shame to ignore it, just because some people don't want to hear the full truth about the people that they align themselves with. Despite all of this national news coverage on RJ May's story though,

Starting point is 00:04:22 I'm not seeing any of the reporters really asking the right questions here. Like, why was he allowed to run for office last year amid all of this, when a bunch of powerful people, including Alan Wilson's office and the Lexington County Sheriff's Office, knew or should have known what he was accused of and the evidence stacked against him. Why wasn't there more transparency or even anonymous tips given to credible media to warn the public of the person that they were voting for? Why wasn't there any expediency in this case when RJ May was living with his two small children who are in his alleged sexual demographic. How many people knew what kind of horrific messages this man allegedly sent and yet did

Starting point is 00:05:14 nothing to stop him from getting elected? And why are taxpayers now on the hook for providing not one, but two public defenders for this man's defense, especially after he boasted so much about his consulting firm's ability to get other South Carolina politicians elected, including some of the very same politicians who knew or should have known about the allegations against him. And the bigger question, why does the state of South Carolina have to pay more money for an investigation into May in order to expel him from the house? How is it this hard to stop an alleged monster?

Starting point is 00:06:00 Those are my questions, and they just aren't getting talked about enough in the press coverage of RJ May. So it's time for RJ May and his accomplices to get a little true sunlight treatment. Now for starters, who is RJ May and why should this case matter to all of us? RJ May, who thankfully is currently in jail after a federal judge denied his bond in June, is a South Carolina political consultant and politician who was born in Newport News, Virginia in 1986.

Starting point is 00:06:36 And guess where his political career began? Well, according to his LinkedIn, RJ May's first-ever political job in South Carolina was working for Joe Wilson's congressional campaign starting in January 2010. Joe Wilson is attorney Alan Wilson's father, who has been a congressman for a long time. Also in 2010, RJ May started working on Alan Wilson's first-ever Attorney General campaign. So according to R.J. May's LinkedIn account, R.J. May's South Carolina political career began working for Alan Wilson and his father. Which is interesting, right?

Starting point is 00:07:18 Stick a pen in that. For the next few years, R.J. May worked on several local political campaigns, according to his LinkedIn page that is, shockingly, still up. He was deputy campaign manager on Andy Patrick's congressional campaign in 2013, senior consultant and campaign spokesperson for Dwayne Lewis for Berkeley County Sheriff in 2015, and he was campaign manager for Jay Koon, Lexington County Sheriff, from 2014 to 2015, according to his LinkedIn. I need you to stick another pin in that last part I told you, that R.J.

Starting point is 00:07:56 May worked as a campaign manager for the Sheriff of the County, where he lives, in the Sheriff of the County where he allegedly distributed all of that child sex abuse material. At some point in the last decade, R.J. Mays started the Ivory Tusk Consulting Firm. But it's hard to say when, because it appears that it was never registered in South Carolina. We can't find any records of Ivory Tusk having a business license in South Carolina or in his home state of Virginia. If anyone has knowledge of this, please reach out to us." It appears like R.J. did a lot more of that behind-the-scenes consulting work until 2020,

Starting point is 00:08:38 when he and his company exponentially grew their footprint in the South Carolina political world. Not only did R.J. May successfully run his first campaign for the District 88 seat representing a part of Lexington County, his consulting firm boasted about winning several other legislative seats including Republican lawmakers like Vic Dabney, Jordan Pace, and J.D. Chaplin. According to a Post and Courier report, RJ May's company, that we can't find registered with a secretary of state anywhere, made more than $1 million from campaigns since 2020. That's just money on the books. An Ivory Tuck's Facebook page only shows three employees, RJ, his father-in-law,

Starting point is 00:09:28 and some other guy. Huh. So where did that money go if he's now claiming to not be able to afford attorneys? But now we get to the really frustrating part. How is it that no one stopped this man from getting re-elected even after federal and local authorities had been investigating him for child sex abuse material for more than five months when he secured his seat in the state house last November. Rewind to May 27th, 2024.

Starting point is 00:10:03 KICK, a social media chat company, alerted the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, NCMEC, of a cyber tip report about a user named Joe Biden, 69, sending child sex abuse material on March 31, 2024, according to a motion filed by the U.S. Attorney's Office in June. Specifically, NCMEC flagged 28 horrific child sex abuse videos sent from this Joe Biden 69 account in a short amount of time that was sent from an IP address in West Columbia, South Carolina. Guess what happened next?

Starting point is 00:10:41 The U.S. Attorney's Office said that NCMEC shared that report containing the IP address with the South Carolina Attorney General's Office. You know, the office of the guy who helped R.J. May essentially start his career, according to his own LinkedIn account. The South Carolina Attorney General's Office then decided to assign the case to Lexington County Sheriff's Department, led by the man who R.J. May helped get elected a decade ago. Interesting, right?

Starting point is 00:11:10 So at this point, in late May 2024, the case was being treated as a state case because of the Lexington County IP address. It's not clear in court documents whether or not authorities knew for sure that the IP address was coming from R.J. May's house at this point. But it's really hard to imagine a world in which this was not known to anybody given the fact that R.J. was allegedly using Joe Biden's name to distribute these videos and because R.J. May's name would have meant something even beyond the borders of South Carolina.

Starting point is 00:11:41 Unfortunately, it wasn't until June 27, 2024, after R.J. May won his Republican primary, essentially securing his seat since he didn't face any Democrat opposition, when Lexington County Sheriff's Department obtained a search warrant from AT&T identifying May's residential address. On that same day, June 27, 2024,

Starting point is 00:12:03 the Lexington County Sheriff's Department also got a search warrant for the Joe Biden 69 Kik account, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office. Anyway, Kik even provided a report of exactly where and what devices these Joe Biden 69 messages were coming from, and Homeland Security Investig investigations found that the majority of those messages were sent from either his residence in West Columbia or his cell phone. According to the state newspaper, at this point, when the investigation zeroed in on R.J. May, the Lexington County Sheriff's Department recused itself due to a conflict of interest.

Starting point is 00:12:43 Lexington County Sheriff's spokesperson Adam Myrick told the state newspaper that the conflict was that he was a lawmaker, and due to the agency's working relationship with lawmakers, they kicked the case to the feds. Weird that he didn't mention the most obvious conflict of interest, that R.J. May had previously worked

Starting point is 00:13:03 on Sheriff Coon's election campaign in 2014 and 2015. Hold on. Does that mean all South Carolina lawmakers just get their cases kicked to the feds? The slower, cushier justice system just because they're lawmakers? That seems weird and unfair, right? Just by doing a quick Google search, I found other recent cases in which South Carolina men were charged by Allen's office for similar crimes just less than four months after authorities were first alerted by officials. I get that the timing depends on the complication of the investigation and tipping off

Starting point is 00:13:46 other parties. But with children's lives and consequential elections on the line with this investigation, this is a case where expediency really matters. If R.J. May was charged less than four months after Alan Wilson first got the tip, then R.J. May would have never been re-elected and South Carolina wouldn't have to pay for an extra investigation just to remove him from office. And I will get to that in a minute. But back to the timeline. So in early July 2024, authorities appeared to have a lot of digital evidence giving them probable cause for RJ May's arrest. According to the U.S. Attorney's Office memo, on July 12th, Kik gave the Lexington County Sheriff's Office the horrifying contents of that account,

Starting point is 00:14:34 265 videos displaying unimaginably vile child sex abuse material. From March 30th, 2024 until April 4th, 2024, user name Jill Biden 69 sent or received approximately 1,147 messages with other Kik users. Those messages discussed trading disgusting child sex videos and I want to be really clear here. These are videos showing men engaging in violent and graphic sexual acts with babies, toddlers, and children. These are young humans whose lives will forever be affected by what was done to them, both mentally and physically, what was said to them, and what they were forced to say and do on camera. And people like Alan Wilson, who claims to care about protecting children, know exactly how extreme and dangerous these videos are, and how people who are accused of distributing

Starting point is 00:15:32 them are not only a danger to society because they are perpetuating the abuse and encouraging more videos and images to be made, they are a danger to their families. And it is beyond me why men who are being investigated for these types of crimes aren't immediately issued restraining orders until the investigation is over to keep them from being in the company of children. That would be protecting children and Alan Wilson would have the power to get a law like that passed in South Carolina. Anyway, Kik even provided a report of exactly where and what devices these

Starting point is 00:16:07 Joe Biden 69 messages were coming from. And the Department of Homeland Security, now in charge of the investigation after Lexington County said they had a conflict, found that the majority of those messages were allegedly sent from either R.J. May's residence in West Columbia or his cell phone. So yeah, that seems like a lot of evidence that should have been immediately considered probable cause, but it still took another month for them to get a search warrant to obtain electronic devices from R.J. May's home. During that August 5th search, May gave the feds authority to search through his cell

Starting point is 00:16:39 phone, which the feds happily pointed out in court documents was located right next to R.J.'s CPAP machine. I love the not so subtle shade there. which the feds happily pointed out in court documents, was located right next to RJ's CPAP machine. I love the not-so-subtle shade there. That search revealed that May was allegedly using the same email address associated with the Joe Biden 69 Kik account and, weird, the Kik app had been deleted from his phone. According to documents, several messaging apps that May used for his disgusting distribution allegedly, including Kick, Lowkey, Telegram, and Mega, were all deleted from his phone on April 4th, 2024. So what happened there? Did someone tip him off? Further, the feds found that RJ May allegedly used a fake Facebook account with the profile Eric Rentling to message

Starting point is 00:17:25 sex workers in South America, which is odd, but also shows how deeply this investigation went. According to court records, R.J. May hired defense attorney Dane Phillips sometime around when his house was raided to represent him in the case. In late October, just weeks before the 2024 election, the federal government filed a motion confirming that the Department of Homeland Security was investigating R.J. May

Starting point is 00:17:53 and asked the government for an extension to search through the devices they had seized from May's home. That motion, which was granted, was again briefly and vaguely covered by the majority of press in South Carolina. Why didn't they just charge him then? For whatever reason, the feds took their sweet time with this investigation. And R.J. May

Starting point is 00:18:18 was re-elected as a state representative in November 2024. And get this, even after his home was raided by federal agents, he still kept making money through his consulting business. According to the Post and Courier who analyzed RJ May's firm's financial filings, Ivory Tusk made over $26,000 from political campaigns after his home was raided last August. And worse, RJ May was living with his wife and two children during the course of this investigation. Why was there never any urgency for the sake of protecting those children? Why was he allowed to work as a state lawmaker for another eight months and complete

Starting point is 00:19:08 another legislative session before he was finally freaking indicted on 10 federal counts of child pornography distribution? And yes, unfortunately, the feds still use that term. Next week, we will talk more about those people who continue to support and enable R.J. May between the time that his home was raided in August until just a few weeks ago. Specifically, I noticed that a lot of South Carolina politicians waited to comment on R.J. May until that day that the feds issued a damning 22-page report on June 12th. So many of them refused to believe it until the feds released that document showing the

Starting point is 00:19:53 mountain of evidence against R.J. May. Alan Wilson appeared to be one of those who waited several days to issue a comment, and what he said about the investigation was strange. We'll talk about that more next week. But the most frustrating part about all of this is what it says about our broken system. It's for lawyers, by lawyers, enriching lawyers. And it is built to protect predators more than the innocent.

Starting point is 00:20:26 In the RJ May case, the South Carolina taxpayers and the victims of this horrific abuse that is so often dismissed by politicians, they are the ones who suffer the most from the poor leadership that did not stop RJ May from getting re-elected. Not only did R.J. May manage to cry poverty in federal court when there seems to be a lot of proof to the contrary, but the court believed him and appointed him two public defense attorneys. Again, more to come on that. We are looking more into how exactly that works and how the government decides who gets

Starting point is 00:21:06 two defense attorneys paid by tax dollars. If you know anything about this, please email us or send us a message on social media. To make matters worse for South Carolina taxpayers in this situation, the South Carolina House Ethics Committee actually decided on July 2nd that they needed to hire an outside law firm to further investigate the claims against R.J. May before they vote to remove him next year. Apparently, they can't do it before session next year, and it requires a two-thirds vote of the chamber.

Starting point is 00:21:42 Which is absurd when you think about it. Representative Jay Jordan told the state newspaper last week that after House Speaker Davey Hyatt filed a complaint to expel May, the Ethics Committee decided that they needed more investigation into the allegations before they vote on it next year. RJ May is scheduled for pre-trial conference on August 10th, and his federal jury trial is slated for September 10th. So it is very likely that this man is going to get convicted faster than he gets removed from the state house. Specifically, Hyatt, the guy who filed the complaint, told the state newspaper that he

Starting point is 00:22:26 needed to know whether or not May sent child sex abuse videos from the statehouse grounds. And I don't understand why that matters. And I really don't understand why does this require an outside firm and more taxpayer dollars? If they really think that they need more proof that RJ May needs to be booted from the House of Representatives after the federal government served up one of the most damning and evidence-backed documents

Starting point is 00:22:59 outlining exactly what they found in their year-long investigation, what does that say about the South Carolina House Ethics Committee? And what does that say about the South Carolina Legislature? How much proof do these people require to believe that one of their own, one who looks like them, votes like them, and worships like them, was capable of such disturbing crimes against children. In the last four years, this man had voting power on issues focused on the crimes that

Starting point is 00:23:35 he is now accused of, and he was privy to conversations surrounding them, like the Sexually Violent Predators Act and like the obscene visual representations of child sexual abuse bill, for example. We know that the feds found evidence on RJ May's phone of RJ communicating with quote-unquote other like-minded pedophiles. So, did he ever use his insight as a lawmaker to help other creeps evade consequence? And again, why is the burden of proof so much greater when it comes to good ol' boys like R.J.

Starting point is 00:24:15 May? We have a lot more to talk about when it comes to R.J. May, and please reach out to us if you could help us put the puzzle pieces together in this story as we always protect our sources. We'll be right back after a short break. This episode is brought to you by Adidas. When the frustration grows and the doubts start to creep in, we all need someone who has our back.

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Starting point is 00:25:57 office heavily relied on when deciding not to prosecute North Myrtle Beach businessman Weldon Boyd and his friend Bradley Williams for killing Scott on September 9, 2023, after chasing him for nearly 10 miles. If you're just joining our pesky group of listeners today for the first time, I want to catch up on our real-time reporting on the Spy v. Slash police corruption case. Please go to our episode description and click on the link for our playlist. Okay, so let's dive back into witness number one. Again, days after Scott's killing, Weldon repeatedly told people he had five witnesses, five who had seen everything that

Starting point is 00:26:38 happened and who backed his story of killing Scott in self-defense, as we've shown you over the past several episodes and no they didn't. Anyway, this whole time we have been doing our very best to shield the witnesses in this case from unnecessary attention on social media by referring to them only by generic descriptors and a number. We started by telling you about two sets of couples, witnesses number two and three and witnesses number four and five, and what they saw, what they didn't see, and what they said they saw that evening. Last week, we began telling you about witness number one. We gave her the top spot in Weldon's list of

Starting point is 00:27:17 witnesses because of the importance of her statements, or rather the importance that Weldon, the Horry County Police, SLED, and the Attorney General's Office placed on her version of what happened. Again, we didn't use a name, just a generic descriptor and a number. Over the past week though, we have discovered that we didn't actually need to do that for her because witness number one, who is a North Carolina woman who goes by Blaze Adrien on Facebook, seems to want people to know about her. Since 2023, she has been making herself known to the public when she first began posting on social media about her connection to the case. So there you go.

Starting point is 00:27:58 Last week, we told you how Blaze's 911 call when compared to Weldon's 911 call at the very same time, and the metadata from photos that Bradley was taking of Scott at that very same time, raised serious questions about the reliability of Blaze's statements. She not only seemed to misinterpret what she was seeing at times, she repeatedly filled in the blanks with guesses and suppositions, especially as they related to Scott's motivations and his state of mind at the time. And again, Blaze was reporting what she was seeing in the moment. And typically that's the best kind of witness, right? She was just narrating

Starting point is 00:28:35 what was in front of her, with no motivation to vilify Scott or exonerate Walden, whom she only knew by their truck colors at that time. So to be clear, we're not saying Blaise did anything underhanded there. She was scared and she did the right thing by calling 911. She did her best in trying to relay information to the police. What we are saying is this. South Carolina Attorney General's Office Prosecutor Heather Weiss, the woman whose fingers were covered in metaphorical paper cuts after all the metaphorical page flipping she must have Attorney General's office prosecutor, Heather Weiss, the woman whose fingers were covered in metaphorical paper cuts

Starting point is 00:29:07 after all the metaphorical page flipping she must have done on Weldon and Bradley's behalf to find a citizen's arrest law to absolve them is either a naturally born dumb dumb, or she is numbed by the good old boy system, or maybe she's just simply a part of it. Because what Heather has that Blaze didn't have is all the information with all the perspectives.

Starting point is 00:29:29 Blaze didn't know that Weldon was agitated because the mother of his unborn son, the woman he was already suing for custody despite not knowing if the baby was for sure his, had dropped off the Toyota 4Runner and the $20,000 engagement ring he had given to her at his aunt's house earlier that day. Blaze didn't know that Weldon believed the mother of his unborn son had disrespected him and his family by allegedly bringing a man with her to do so. Something that actually did not happen, by the way. There was no man in the car with her.

Starting point is 00:30:03 But Weldon thought there was based on what his aunt was telling him and the photo that was sent to him by her. So that's the narrative he went with, and it really seemed to get under his skin. Here he is talking with his mama about three hours before he shot and killed Scott Spivey. His mother isn't sure that there was a man in the car with Weldon's ex-fiance, who was very newly divorced when she and Weldon had their very brief encounter in early 2023. The baby was born about two months after the shooting. At the end of the call, Weldon's mother mentions the ex-fiance's former husband.

Starting point is 00:30:38 We've bleeped out two names in this. The first is the name of Weldon's ex-fiance's mother, and the second is Weldon's ex-fiance's mother and the second is Weldon's ex-fiance. Have a listen. Hello? Why do you think she would be bold enough to pull up with a guy? I don't see how you told what that was. Because of the sun, it's men's sunglasses and he's a lot taller than her sitting next to her. It's's just a it's just kind of like a guy figure that could it be her uncle no he wouldn't have gone and gotten involved in that drama I don't know who that was. I mean, it could have been somebody

Starting point is 00:31:26 that got right with her, who knows. That just, that crazy woman. So I don't understand. And it's just like, she does not care. It's like nothing fazes her. No empathy, what they tell no entity. It's all about her. Well, and even that cousin yesterday, basically,

Starting point is 00:32:02 said that she's always in love with somebody. So I sat down, played that little game. I'm gonna tell you, I don't know what that husband knew, but he figured it out. I wish I could talk to him. Yeah. Well, she figured something out. Queen. Did you ever find out if he was back in Charleston or not? No.

Starting point is 00:32:38 See if you can find out. Just call his office Monday and say, can I schedule an appointment with this doctor? And they'll say, say oh he's not here anymore or yeah and then if he's in Charleston I may go try to talk to him. Um, maybe this lawyer was going to look into that because you know we gave those addresses. Yeah. So I mean that's something she needs to figure out. Alright. So yeah, three hours before Weldon shot and killed Scott, he was scheming with his mother to get dirt on his ex-fiance, who he was convinced had brought a man to drop off

Starting point is 00:33:26 the ring in the car. Blaze couldn't have known this, but prosecutor Heather Weiss could have. Blaze couldn't have known that an hour and 45 minutes before Weldon and Bradley killed Scott, Weldon had listed a Toyota 4Runner for sale on Facebook that his ex-fiance had just returned to him. And Blaze also couldn't have known that right before going to Tractor Supply at 5.25 p.m., less than 40 minutes before killing Scott, Weldon had posted pictures of the engagement ring on Facebook, listing it for sale.

Starting point is 00:34:02 And that five minutes later, Weldon received a text from a friend saying, "'Keep that ring, bud. The right one will come along one day.'" Blaze couldn't have known that 10 minutes after that, at 5.35 p.m., Weldon and Bradley had checked out a tractor supply and were securing his purchases in the bed of his truck. She couldn't have known that at 5.46 p.m. and 15 seconds, a friend had texted Weldon a screenshot of Weldon's engagement ring post with the message WTF with a series of laughing emojis. And that at 5.47 p.m. and 18 seconds, Weldon texted her back, sending her a screenshot of his listing

Starting point is 00:34:47 for the Toyota. This would be right before Weldon, Blaze, and Scott would have encountered each other on Highway 9. Scott's truck is seen on surveillance footage passing Bell & Bell, which is right across from Tractor Supply, where Weldon would have been pulling out from at 5.48 p.m. This is around where Blaze told police that Scott had come up behind her at the stoplight really fast. At 5.49 p.m. and six seconds, when Weldon was ostensibly on the road, Weldon texted

Starting point is 00:35:21 this same friend three screenshots of text exchanges between Welldon and his Aunt Lucy, who handled the property transfer with Welldon's ex-fiance that afternoon. Here are those texts, by the way. For clarity, we have replaced people's names with their connection to Welldon and his ex-fiance. Aunt Lucy, she just pulled up. Weldon, so she's just sitting across the street watching y'all? Aunt Lucy, yes, your granny just opened car and just found ring in cup holder. Weldon, $20,000 ring and she just throws in cup holder? Aunt Lucy, photo of a parked Nissan SUV.

Starting point is 00:36:06 Aunt Lucy, you think this is her watching us? She just pulled up across the street and not getting out. Weldon, LMAO, yes, how ridiculous. Aunt Lucy, it looks like a guy might be driving. They're still here. Weldon, see if you can find out. Aunt Lucy, they just drove off and her sister stuck her head out back window and waved and yelled bye. Weldon, okay, so it was her and her sister?

Starting point is 00:36:39 Aunt Lucy, two in front and her sister in back seat. We're talking to your mom now. Weldon, probably the guy I've heard she's been screwing. Aunt Lucy, emoji of a shocked face. Weldon, she's evil. Like we told you last week, Blaze called 911 to report that Scott had pointed a weapon at her at 5.55 PM and 53 seconds, which is less than four minutes

Starting point is 00:37:10 after Weldon sent those screenshots. 38 seconds after Blaze called 911, Bradley began taking a series of photos of Scott on Highway 9. None of those photos showed him pointing a gun. All of those photos showed him in front of Weldon. One minute and 25 seconds after Blaze called 911 to report Scott, Weldon did the same thing.

Starting point is 00:37:36 24 seconds later, at 5.54 p.m. and 42 seconds, Weldon was connected with a dispatcher. Again, Blaze would not have known what was happening in Weldon's truck at the time. The truck she repeatedly told police wasn't doing anything wrong. She wouldn't have known what was going through Weldon's head while this was happening.

Starting point is 00:37:59 Only Weldon would have known that, right? Good thing he shared those thoughts with his mother. Here's a call between Weldon and his mama just two days after he and Bradley had killed Scott. So there's no wrong- Thank you for following me. Oh, he knew I was following him. Me and you talking?

Starting point is 00:38:21 He knew he had fucked up at that point because all the other cars slammed on brakes and was trying to get away from them. And I was like, he just ran me off the road and aimed a gun at Radley's head. Fuck this guy. And I chased him. Oh, I was on his ass and his truck couldn't outrun my truck. And he knew it.

Starting point is 00:38:39 So yeah, he was terrified. From Blaise's point of view on Highway 9 that evening, she thought that Weldon and Bradley were being victimized by Scott. She didn't see it as a cat and mouse game being mutually played between two parties, but Weldon sure saw it that way. And honestly, we question whether Weldon

Starting point is 00:38:59 truly saw Scott as a threat. We definitely question whether Bradley did. Scott pointed his weapon at Bradley's head. Weldon said that to his mama in that call, and he said it to police at the scene. On the phone with dispatch, however, he first said that Scott had aimed the gun at him, and then he said him and Bradley, and then he said Bradley. At 5.55 p.m. and 19 seconds, Weldon again told 911, he's aiming guns at people, he racked it, he was about to shoot at us.

Starting point is 00:39:30 But, and this is very hard to explain, at 5.55pm and 22 seconds, Bradley himself was on the phone with AT&T, paying his $257.59 phone bill. At 5.56 p.m. and 12 seconds, Bradley got a text confirming this payment. Here's what was happening on the 911 call with Weldon at that very same time. We pulled our guns out. I don't know where this dude's gotten his.

Starting point is 00:39:59 I'm towing a fucking couch, and he just pulls up next to us and aims a gun at my fucking friend's head. Okay, what's your name? I'm Weldon Boyd. I'm staying with him. He's in a black Chevrolet. His license plate is RC 1538. It's a Michigan. What does that say? North Carolina weighted tag Chevrolet black pickup truck. We're passing. Yes, he's aiming guns. Listen, this dude shoots at me. We're going to put him down.

Starting point is 00:40:36 He's, I mean, this dude's insane. Are you following him or is he following you? He's been following us. Now we're behind him. Literally right there at that moment is when Bradley got his AT&T confirmation text. I do not know a single person right after having a gun pointed at his head who ostensibly feared for his life to the extent that the other man allegedly pointing the gun needed to be killed in quote self-defense, who would also be thinking in that same moment, did I pay her phone bill? I gotta do that. That's not a thing. Again, right before Welding called

Starting point is 00:41:18 911, Bradley was taking pictures of Scott on the highway. The photos that showed Scott with a gun showed Scott holding the gun just outside his own truck window with at most his hand, wrist, and part of his forearm visible, meaning it didn't appear as if Scott was weaving it around or trying to send a message to anyone but the car following him. And in all instances, Scott's finger was off the trigger and resting on the trigger guard, something that Weldon, who is an experienced gun owner, would understand. None of the photos showed Scott pointing the gun and all of them showed him in front of Weldon and Bradley, even appearing to try to create some distance between him and them. Again, this is all information Blaze would not have known, but

Starting point is 00:42:01 prosecutor Heather Weiss should have known it, if she had looked at the evidence during her so-called thorough examination of the case, which she clearly didn't. Over the weekend, the Wall Street Journal posted part three of its polite look into the Spivey case and the police corruption that it has revealed so far. The Journal reported that Heather Weiss admitted that before making her decision not to prosecute Weldon and Bradley, she had not listened to Weldon's recording of his call to 911, in which you can hear Bradley say, right after the last bullet was shot, God damn it, Weldon, why couldn't you fucking leave him alone?

Starting point is 00:42:38 After listening to the call when it came to light earlier this year, Heather Weiss was unswayed. She stood by her decision not to prosecute Weldon and Bradley. Why? Well, in part because of Blaze's witness statements. More on that after a quick break. So let's get back to Blaze's witness statements. We've established that Blaze tended to fill in the blanks with her assumptions, which

Starting point is 00:43:08 again, people do that. It's not unusual and it's not necessarily a dishonest thing. What is dishonest is adhering to those assumptions after you've been told that they were wrong. Remember the part of the 911 call in which Blaze said she was being shot at after pulling onto Camp Swamp Road? After turning around and going back onto Highway 9, Blaze pulled off at the next cut in the highway and parked her car in the median. And she sat there until 6 31 when Officer Dave Klasko drove over to her from the scene

Starting point is 00:43:41 and made her move her car so that it was more safely situated. He turned on his body camera to interview her as she was already talking. This is when, for the first time, Blaise says that Scott not only pointed his gun at her, he tapped the gun on his door when she was next to him on the highway. And right whenever I'm about to get by the colonial shorter apartments, he's coming up beside me and he's like this right here on this window and he's like, you know, going like this and he pointed at me and I'm like,

Starting point is 00:44:16 what did I do to you? You're talking about all the way down nine, like on the other side of the river. Yes, so that's how far like he's coming from. So, I mean, that's how far he buried out. Anyways, I'm like, what did I do to you? And I just stay back because I'm like, I'm not trying to risk this to shoot me, you know? Obviously. Yeah, like, what the hell is going on with you? Crazy, like. So there is a lot to unpack in that 22 seconds. First, Colonial Charter Apartments is nine miles

Starting point is 00:44:47 from Camp Swamp Road and about four miles before Blaze called 911 to say that a man had pointed a gun at her. Meaning, Blaze waited to call 911. She says that she stayed back from Scott because she didn't want to risk getting shot, which the risk of getting shot would be something you would want to stay away from, right?

Starting point is 00:45:07 But that's not what Blaze actually did. What she actually did is stayed paced with Scott for four miles after he allegedly drove up fast on her a mile earlier at Bell and Bell and then tapped his window with his gun before pointing it at her. We know this because one, well, she and the police and prosecutor Heather Weiss consider her to be the witness who saw everything and I'm quoting one of the officers on his body camera here, from soup to nuts. You can't see everything if you hung back to avoid Scott and you can't make statements like the white truck did nothing

Starting point is 00:45:42 wrong unless you had Scott and Weldon in your view the whole time. But also, four miles? She waited four miles to call the police after a strange man in a giant pickup truck allegedly tapped his window and pointed his gun at her? Now Scott's window. In the photos Bradley took, his driver's side window is obviously down at some points, right? Because we can see him holding the gun pointed upward in some of them. But here, Blaze is saying the window was up.

Starting point is 00:46:10 Scott's driver's side window and all windows, except for the windshield, were tinted, a dark tint. According to photos the police took of Scott's truck at the impound lot the day after his killing, the driver's side window is so dark you can't see inside, you can only see the reflection of what's outside of the truck. Blaze's windows were presumably down to some extent because Blaze's air conditioning wasn't working at the time. But if they were up, well, Blaze also has tinted windows. So why did Blaze wait to call 911 and why did she continue to

Starting point is 00:46:47 follow the man who she said had pointed a gun at her? Here's what she said to Officer Clasco after he took her name and contact information. This is just 50 seconds after she said Scott had tapped his window with his gun and pointed it at her. All right, so started at? Right past Bell and Bell. Bell and Bell? Uh, what's the charter? Colonial Charter. Colonial Charter.

Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah. That's where he waved the gun out the window and like smacked it on this side right here. Okay, so Blaze is now saying that at Colonial Charter, Scott waved the gun outside of his window and smacked it on his door. It's a slight change to her story, but this is significant. Within less than a minute, she has changed the details of what happened and changed them for the worse.

Starting point is 00:47:45 Meaning, at first, the window is up, which, that would still be a threat and still be a scary thing to see, feels a lot different than the window being open. Him waving the gun around and tapping his door with it, so presumably Blaze would see it. That is called embellishment. Okay. Okay.

Starting point is 00:48:08 He's zooming through to the camera. Yeah, everyone's having a go at this. Can't fall off. And say how these cars are being, how they're jam packed kinda together. Yep. That's how we are in a little group right now on the highway and he's doing that at everybody.

Starting point is 00:48:21 Well, is that the white Dodge or the black Chevy? The black Chevy. He's pointing that at everybody. Was that the white Dodge or the black Chevy? Black Chevy. He's pointing it at everybody, and yet she doesn't call 911 then either? Like I said, it's another four miles before she does that. But also, she said she hung back so that she wouldn't get shot by him. So how is she seeing him pointing this gun at everybody?

Starting point is 00:48:44 And what's more, why doesn't anybody else call 911? Blaise and Weldon are the only two people who called 911 to report Scott for pointing a gun on Highway 9 and driving recklessly. The black, and I have his on license plate number two I gave to the lady, but I have it in my notes. Anyways, waving it at it. The white truck wasn't doing anything to him.

Starting point is 00:49:09 He was literally following behind. The guy has a trailer on the back of his truck, white truck. This is a real tomato tomato situation, huh? Blaze says Weldon wasn't doing anything to Scott, but Weldon says, well, again again Weldon said this about it. So there's no wrong. Thank you for following him. Oh he knew I was following him. Me and you talking, he knew he had fucked up at that point because all the other cars slammed on brakes and was

Starting point is 00:49:41 trying to get away from them and I was like he just ran me off the road and aimed a gun at Raleigh's head. Fuck this guy. And I chased him. Oh, I was on his ass. And his truck couldn't outrun my truck. And he knew it. So yeah, he was terrified.

Starting point is 00:49:57 Blaze continues to tell Officer Klatzko what she saw. Whenever we're coming up, what is that place? Right before you get to Minuteman and um, Little Caesars. Anyways, right before you get that, right by the food line, he ran off the road. Like, dude in a black truck ran him off the road and then he swerved back on the road. So basically he's causing destruction and traffic and same thing's going on the whole way until we get to right here. They're both the road. So basically he's causing destruction and traffic and same things going on the whole way until we get right here. They're both turning down. The black truck slams on brakes. I make sure I'm not going too fast. He slams on

Starting point is 00:50:34 brakes in front of all of us. Like I said it's him, the white truck, a little red car, then me. The red car is already like what's going on trying to turn around. The guy, I know he's a white male with dark hair in the black truck. I'm assuming he stepped out because the way that we were all set up, I couldn't see him visually get out the truck. But all I see is, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, On the white truck right there. Yes right here exactly. I don't know if they're still there How did you see it there because where I was turning?

Starting point is 00:51:09 Okay, this is him. This is the white truck. Here's the red. Here's me I'm right where that Tahoe is almost so I can see you turn on the camp. Yes How did you see it there such a a great question, Officer Clasco. But let's start with this. Not only did Blaze tell Officer Clasco that she hung back from Scott because she didn't want to risk getting shot, when she got on the phone with 911 after four miles of following the man who allegedly pointed a gun at her, Blaze also told her that she was hanging back from Scott because she was scared. And she repeatedly told the dispatcher that she did not want to speed. According to surveillance footage from Minuteman, Blaze did not hang back.

Starting point is 00:51:54 And according to surveillance footage from near Camp Swamp Road, she was about 10 seconds behind Weldon and Scott. And yet, she still turned onto Camp Swamp. And from there, she told the dispatcher that Scott had jumped out from his truck, which she did not see. She assumed it correctly, but she did not see that. What's more, there was another car between her and Weldon's truck, but she was sure that her car had been shot by Scott. What truck pulled over first? The black truck. had been shot by Scott. What truck pulled over first?

Starting point is 00:52:25 The black truck. The black, he stopped in front of the white truck. I'm talking like in the road, not off the road and dead in front of him. Stopped and in front of the white truck. Yes.

Starting point is 00:52:41 And how many times do you think he shot? Oh God, it had to be more than seven. Shot? I don't want to be exaggerated enough like that so I ain't gonna say too much. Seven into the windshield? Yes, basically front of the truck. But the reason why I say windshield is because I've seen that glass popping. Because I I could like on your side of the cop car on the passenger side that's where I seen it coming from that's how I could see you know he's shooting but like I said I didn't wear how we're all angled I did see him get out the truck so I don't know if he's like hanging out

Starting point is 00:53:16 the window shooting at him or if he physically I don't know but I told the lady when he was shooting I was like oh my god he's shooting in his car and I don't know if the red car got shot and then I heard a pop on mine and I'm like oh my god I don't know if he was shooting, I was like, oh my God, he's shooting in his car. And I don't know if the red car got shot. And then I heard a pop on mine. And I'm like, oh my God, I don't know if he shot in my car or not. And she was like, get out of there, get out of there. And so I was just trying to hurry up, get out, all that. Officer Klaxko begins examining Blaze's Nissan sedan. I don't see. Maybe it was just like a ricochet off the, you know, the shell or something.

Starting point is 00:54:11 It could. I think right here. Maybe I don't know. Nope, that's inside. Okay. That's inside. Okay. I ain't trying to.

Starting point is 00:54:21 So it could have bounced off the pavement. Yeah. Because I don't. You were facing directly towards them, correct? Yes Was your air working before no, okay All right, so I don't see anything. So, Blaze, Weldon's star witness, was 100% certain that she had been hit by one of Scott's bullets. Then Officer Kleksko begins looking at her car, which has no bullet damage. So then she changes it to maybe she was hit by a shell,

Starting point is 00:55:07 which, listen, I'm not anywhere close to an expert on guns here, but there are a few things. Blaze told the officer that Scott had stopped dead in front of Weldon. He was actually quite a distance ahead, about 75 feet and seven inches, according to the crime scene's technicians' measurements. The only shell casing found outside of Scott's truck was under the front driver's seat wheel

Starting point is 00:55:36 of the truck and either fell out of his truck or was placed there, because from the position Weldon says Scott was shooting at him, the shell would have been further to the right of where Scott and his gun would have been facing Weldon. From inside the truck, Scott would have been shooting with his body twisted to the right and back toward Weldon, which would mean his shell casings would be in the back and front seats of the truck, which they were. That means that if Scott shot at Weldon outside the truck, it would have only been once, right?

Starting point is 00:56:11 But the evidence also might not indicate that he shot at Weldon from outside of the truck. That said, in no world would any of Scott's shell casings from his gun. If he was shooting at Weldon's window, as Blaze believed in this moment, fly 75 feet and 7 inches to Weldon's truck. With the bullets that she believed were hitting Weldon's window, skip over Weldon's truck, skip over his 16-foot trailer, and skip over the little red car that Blaze, for some reason, knew was thinking, what is going on, then to hit Blaze's car. Nor would it bounce off the pavement and do that. Nor would any glass from Weldon's window, which Weldon and Bradley were shooting through,

Starting point is 00:56:57 likely go backward, past the 16-foot trailer and past the little red car to hit Blaze's car. Now again, this is all in the moment. It is totally understandable that Blaze would misread the situation on getting hit by a bullet, casing, glass, or whatever she changed it to. But Officer Kleksko examined her car in front of her and found nothing. So at that moment, a reasonable person would know that she was mistaken about getting hit. And yet, the day after the shooting, here is what Blaze said in a Facebook voice message

Starting point is 00:57:35 to a friend of Weldon's, who then sent it to Weldon, after which Weldon began positioning himself as a hero to Blaze and using her witness information to bolster his own version of what happened. And I told him, I was like, ma'am, I said, I told her where I was at, of course, my location all day. I told her, I said, this man, he's driving crazy all over the road. I said, he is, he's holding a gun out the window pointed at every corner he goes by and at this time I'm like he's running a man off the road now with a big trailer on the back

Starting point is 00:58:12 of his truck. I said he's getting back on the highway now. Boom. Still happening. Still happening. Walking her through the whole way because she was literally on the phone with me like I said from the time he done it to me all the way till the incident happened.

Starting point is 00:58:28 We're both, we're all turning down Camp Swamp. I'm going that way because I live back that way and Black truck stops right in front of the truck with the trailer and all I see is glass going everywhere from the truck with the trailer and I'm trying to get out of there one of the bullets popped my windshield and It didn't make an indention, but it looks like my arm tense bubbled up, but I'm thankful That's the only thing that happened. I'm trying to get out of there. I'm trying to get out of there and I just think If it wasn't for the guy in the trailer, I mean the truck with the trailer, that would have been my car directly behind them and I have no weapon on me. Oh my god,

Starting point is 00:59:11 I'm gonna get emotional but um I have nothing in the car with me so I would have died yesterday but oh I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry but I have been worried sick about him because I didn't know if that guy had killed him or not. I didn't have time to find out. it was a total um it was vice versa so I felt I know I sound like shit saying this but I felt much better knowing that he was okay but I was so worried about him. All I could think was oh my god like this man hasn't done anything to anybody like it's the one that's been reckless all over the road like that's all I could think was he's just killed this man right now but I'm sorry for getting

Starting point is 00:59:58 emotional oh my goodness this is horrible but my nerves are just shook. But um, thank you for reaching out to me. Thank you for messaging me, Holly. I do appreciate that because that's just another thing to add to the trauma bond bucket. But um, I'm very glad everybody else is okay in this situation because it's scary whenever you come close to losing your life, you know? Like, and all of us in the situation, I'm just, we're all blessed. We're very, very, very blessed.

Starting point is 01:00:32 That is what I would call a lie. Blaze knew that nothing had happened to her car. The officer had inspected her car and found no damage. So she went from saying it was a bullet to a casing, to glass, back to a bullet hitting her vehicle. And yet she's telling Weldon's friend that the bullet didn't make an indentation, but did bubble up the tint on her window, even though she had pointed out this bubbled tint to Officer Classko the night before, and he looked at it and informed her that no, that was bubbled

Starting point is 01:01:05 up from the inside, not from a bullet. All I can say is this reminds me of the scene from My Cousin Vinny when a witness says he saw Ralph Macchio and his friend leaving a convenience store after robbing it and killing the clerk. And their lawyer, My Cousin Vinny, Joe Pesci, the namesake of Joe Pesci, Mandy and David's dog, starts laying out photos and asking the witness what each photo is of. There's a photo of a dirty window with a crud covered screen, trees, leaves, bushes, all things obstructing his view of the store and its parking lot.

Starting point is 01:01:45 He couldn't possibly have identified that it was the karate kid and his friend in that car. So why is a fictional lawyer named Vincent LaGuardia Gambini, who has never tried a case in his fictional life and has no fictional experience being a lawyer at that point, a way better thinker than Heather Weiss, the prosecutor at Attorney General Alan Wilson's office. Now, again, there was a lot Blaze could not have known that night. There are things she immediately changed details on, making worse with each retelling. There are things she made up, such as what Scott was thinking and what the red car was thinking. There are assumptions she made such as Weldon causing no trouble on Highway 9, and

Starting point is 01:02:28 there are things she knew but lied about after like her story about a bullet hitting her car. That's a willfully incorrect statement Blaze was making to this person on Facebook about what she already knew had not happened, which in addition to everything we shared with you last week, really hurts her credibility. Not only have we shown that things Blaze was seeing in the moment seemed to be demonstrably false, today we've seen where she supposedly had a gun pointed at her and yet waited to call 911, continued to follow the truck closely, and for some unknown reason followed the truck onto

Starting point is 01:03:03 Camp Swamp Road. Obviously her reason for turning, which she said again and again, was because that was the road she took. But girl, a man with a gun just drove down there and you're on the phone with 911 about it. Why are you not pulling over or driving past the road to put some distance between you and the man with the gun who you just saw take your turn? Why? between you and the man with the gun who you just saw take your turn. Why? Blaise, from where we sit right now, seems to relish the drama of it all, in our opinions. And she wants people to know that she was there. She saw it, and she almost died, if not for Weldon's heroics.

Starting point is 01:03:36 She seems to have embellished the facts at times, and she seems to have not looked at this from a greater height, one that accounts for all the parts she didn't know at the time but should know now. That said, you know who did have all of this, including Blaze's voice message? Heather Weiss at the Attorney General's office. To rely on Blaze's account as a reason for declining to press charges against Weldon and Bradley means you have to be intimately familiar with the account. A prosecutor needs to push and pull on that account

Starting point is 01:04:07 to see if it stays intact. If Heather did that back in 2024, we're not sure how she concluded what she concluded then, that Weldon and Bradley did the state of South Carolina a favor by dispatching Scott Spivey. Because if she had done any research at all into this at that time, had she just taken an afternoon or even a few hours to poke around in the case file, how did she decide to trust the word of someone who said she had seen Scott tapping his gun on his window,

Starting point is 01:04:38 which ended up being dark tinted. And then 50 seconds seconds later changed that to Scott was waving the gun out of the window and tapping the door of his truck with the gun. How did she trust the word of someone who then waited four miles to call 911 about the danger who then said she hung back and stayed away from Scott because she was afraid of getting shot but yet was right there keeping pace with him? How could Heather Weiss trust the word of someone who said Scott was pointing his gun around at every car he was passing, but there were no other calls to 911 other than Weldon's about that?

Starting point is 01:05:16 How could she trust the word of someone who said Scott was pointing the gun at Weldon at the very same time when Bradley Williams was taking pictures of Scott? And those pictures don't show him pointing a gun, but rather show Scott holding a gun straight up and barely out of his window with his finger on the trigger guard, photos that show Scott in front of them at increasing distances up to 100 yards ahead, according to Weldon's phone call. How could Heather Weiss trust the word of someone who said Weldon wasn't doing anything wrong, knowing that there are calls in which Weldon confesses to staying on Scott's ass and

Starting point is 01:05:50 knowing that Scott must have been terrified and how he had a blast doing this? How could Heather Weiss trust the word of someone who said she had seen Scott shooting out Weldon's window knowing that this simply did not happen. How could Heather Weiss trust the word of someone who said her own car had been hit by a bullet, who despite finding out soon after that, nope, nothing hit her car, and yet continued to tell people the next day that her car was hit by Scott's bullet and she almost died? We're not even done talking about Blaze, Heather Weiss's star witness

Starting point is 01:06:25 against prosecuting Weldon and Bradley, and this is how much we've found so far. And every bit of it was available to all of the investigators and all of the prosecution back in 2023 and 2024. Even without all of this work that everyone has been doing for them, it still doesn't answer the question about how is it considered self-defense when two men chase down a person who was no longer a threat to them, who four miles was trying to get away from them. The only answer here is because they were playing good old boy games and subverting justice by using that second system, the one that does not exist for everyone else. So at 930 a.m. Thursday in Lawrence County, South Carolina, Judge Bubba Griffith will

Starting point is 01:07:08 hear arguments in the wrongful death case against Weldon Boyd and Bradley Williams that was filed last year by Scott's sister, Jennifer Bolle-Spivey. Jennifer wrote about the hearing on Facebook and asked supporters of Scott to attend the hearing in Lawrence County if they can, or to simply join her in prayer at 9.30 a.m. Thursday. She wrote that this event will mark the first day that Scott's case will start its proceedings in a South Carolina courtroom. Judge Griffith will likely decide on a number of motions in the case, including the motion to stay, that could set the stage for a future Stand Your Ground hearing.

Starting point is 01:07:48 Like most hearings, it is impossible to determine if this one will last five minutes or five hours, but we will do our best to keep you posted. Stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. Beth Braden. Audio production support provided by Jamie Hoffman. Case file management provided by Kate Thomas. Learn more about our mission and membership at LunasharkMedia.com. Interruptions provided by Luna and Joe Pesky.

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