Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #109 - Did Weldon Boyd Record Video of Scott Spivey Shooting? + SC Attorney General Alan Wilson Has a Reason to Keep People Afraid…

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

Investigative journalists Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell share part three of their look into how the family of Scott Spivey was treated by the South Carolina Attorney General’s Office. In April 2024, Prosecutor Heather Weiss  tried to explain why she felt there was “insufficient evidence” to charge North Myrtle Beach man Weldon Boyd and his friend Bradley Williams in Scott’s shooting death.  Why would Heather Weiss’ boss, Attorney General Alan Wilson, want to open the door to all-out vigilantism in South Carolina? Why would he want it to be legal for people to chase each other with guns and just be able to say the dead man started it with no meaningful investigation into that claim? Oh right. His brother Julian Wilson co-owns the private equity firm JJE Capital Holdings which owns the state’s biggest weapons and ammunition retailer: Palmetto State Armory. How else can you explain why Alan’s office continues to sit on their hands and do NOTHING when it comes to taking another look into the appropriateness of criminal charges against Weldon and Bradley?  Also on the show, did Weldon Boyd … record a video of himself killing Scott Spivey? At that April 2024 meeting with prosecutor Heather Weiss, Scott’s family asked her if she was aware of this video. Surprise, surprise she wasn’t. And SLED Agent Nathan Poston assured the family that no such video existed … We are guessing he didn’t look at the evidence either.  Let’s dive in! 🥽🦈 Episode References “Man identified as Murdaugh drug dealer sentenced after guilty pleas”- Live5 News, July 28, 2025 📰 “AR rifle used in Trump shooting from company with winding history, campaign visit” - USA Today, July 16, 2024 📰 "Gunman Shane Tamura used Palmetto State Armory AR-15 in massacre at Midtown skyscraper" - New York Post, Updated July 29, 2025 📰 Alan Wilson for Governor Campaign Website 🌐 “North Myrtle Beach warns planner as St. Patrick’s Day pub crawl ‘escalated to a parade’” - The Myrtle Beach Sun News, February 24, 2021 📰 Referenced Episode: MMP 60 🎧 Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about Premium Membership at ⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠ to get more Premium bonus episodes like the Corruption Watchlist, Girl Talk, and Soundbites that help you Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight ⁠⁠Premium Members ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠also get access to ad-free listening, searchable case files, written articles with documents, case photos, episode videos and exclusive live experiences with our hosts on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunasharkmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ all in one place. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Here's a link to some of our favorite things: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/mandy_matney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   |   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I don't know if an actual video exists showing Weldon Boyd shooting Scott Spivey to death, but I know that the Spivey family has good reason to believe that one exists. And the fact that prosecutor Heather Weiss could not answer that simple question, combined with Alan Wilson's continued inaction to correct his mistakes on this case, leads me to believe that there is something so much bigger here. My name is Mandy Matney. This is True Sunlight, a podcast exposing crime and corruption, previously known as the Murdoch Murders podcast.

True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production, written with journalist Liz Pharrell. So, I had a terrifying thought this week. What if Attorney General Alan Wilson doesn't want us to feel safe here in South Carolina? I've known about Allen's ambitions to become the next governor of South Carolina since the Murdoch murders investigation. And throughout that investigation, I found myself questioning Allen's strategies during moments it was clear that he was going after the low-hanging fruit with the acceptance. of Ehrlich Murdoch, when he could have, very easily, burned the whole corrupt tree to the ground. It was confusing to me, because the Murdoch murders was a moment that South Carolina will never get back, a moment where the whole world was watching and begging to see a hero.

Sure, he sent his best prosecutor to secure Elyke Murdoch's murder conviction, and we are forever grateful for Crayton Waters for taking that mission seriously. But beyond that, Helen Wilson did a poor job in quashing the corruption that was brought to the surface during the Murdoch murder's investigation. Corruption that the entire world saw and were begging someone to do something about it. We all know that Ehrlich Murdoch didn't steal $10 million through the legal system on his own. We know that he had help from judges, lawyers, police, and prosecutors. And still, where did that money go? I was thinking about this again this week

as one of Ehrlich Murdoch's alleged drug dealers was sentenced to six years in prison for his involvement in Ehrlich's supposed drug ring that we still know very little about. According to reporting by Nick Reagan at Live 5 News, who, I have to point out, referred to Elyke Murdoch as the disgraced low-country attorney instead of calling him what he is, a convicted killer,

while he reported that Spencer Roberts entered a guilty plea on Monday to distributing drugs and money laundering. In court on Monday, prosecutor Creighton Waters said that Roberts didn't ever directly pay Elic Murdoch, but Curtis Eddie, aka Cousin Eddie, who hasn't been prosecuted, apparently served as the go-between. The prosecution claims that Roberts cashed over 150,000, $1,000 in checks from Murdoch in the years leading up to the murders. Now, this whole thing stinks of good old boy corruption, and we called that three years ago

on episode 60 of MMP when Spencer was indicted. Ehrlich Murdoch's attorneys have wanted us to believe from the get-go this narrative that Ehrlich had a $10 million drug problem, and they claimed that this was backed up by a paper trail of checks, and all of that money just went poof. which we all know is not a reality. In the famous words of Craig Melvin, that's a lot of oxy, Dick. And in the words of Justin Bamberg,

checks to a drug dealer? On top of that, we dug into Spencer's connections to Ehrlich. Remember, Spencer Roberts created four LLCs between 2020 and 2022, as he was supposedly receiving boatloads of money to buy drugs for Ehrlich Murdoch through Eddie Smith. Again, all of that is alleged. But a few months before he was indicted, Spencer Roberts created an LLC with a man named Emmanuel Buckner, who happened to be the only defendant Ehrlich Murdoch ever prosecuted

during his long fake tenure at the 14th Circuit Solicitor's Office, which allowed him to act on their behalf with his badges and police lights. And guess what that only case that he actually prosecuted involved, drug trafficking. And yes, Elek Murdoch was a supposed part-time solicitor for a decade with badges and lights and access to case files involving drug cases and no one of authority has ever questioned Solicitor Duffy Stone, the man who gave him that made-up position, as to how and why he gave Ehrlich all of that power,

And how many cases did he taint with his involvement? Again, Alan Wilson, we are looking at you. The whole tree is rotten. And Alan Wilson continues to only go after the low-hanging fruit. Oh, and speaking of low-hanging fruit? Why hasn't Eddie Smith gone to trial for not only the drug charges, but those sham roadside shooting charges that were all based on Ellick Murdoch's lies? Silly me, I thought the Attorney General's office couldn't ethically prosecute cases that

they didn't believe that they could prove beyond a reasonable doubt. That's what prosecutor Heather Weiss said, remember? She couldn't charge Weldon Boyd for killing Scott Spivey because there was quote-unquote insufficient evidence. And I can't wait to see the evidence that they used to justify Eddie's arrest in Elyke Mark Murdoch's fake little roadside shooting. We will talk more later in the episode about the Attorney General's office's vastly different standards when it came to charging Eddie Smith compared to not charging Weldon Boyd and Bradley Williams in the shooting death of Scott Spivey.

But I want to go back to my original thought. What if Alan Wilson doesn't want anyone in South Carolina to feel safe because at the end of the day, his family profits from people feeling unsafe and needing to arm themselves. I know some people probably think that that's a cynical question, but I think it's a fair question at this point. Someone commented this exact thought on my Instagram this week, and it took my breath away after we started digging into this company, J.J.E. Capital Holdings, whose co-owner is Alan Wilson's brother, Julian Wilson. Alan Wilson's brother Julian Wilson owns Palmetta State Armory, a retailer selling weapons and ammunition, both in South Carolina stores and online. Alan and Julian are both sons of Congressman

Joe Wilson, who some of you might remember from 2009, he is the congressman who yelled, you lie at President Barack Obama during Obama's speech to a joint session of Congress. Now, it didn't click for Mandy and me until this week. How big of a footprint Palmetto State Armory has? Don't let the local name fool you. Julian Wilson, again, Allen's brother, is one of three owners of JJE Capital Holdings, Palmetto State Armory's umbrella company, which boasts more than a dozen brands under its flagship. And I hope this causes some people to shake in their boots a little when I say, we're told that there are silent investors in JJE Capital Holdings whose names are associated with some of the most powerful people in South Carolina's political and legal circles.

More on that much later. In 2020, the company run by Alan Wilson's brother purchased Remington Outdoors Ammunition Businesses for $65 million. The post-eastern. The post-eastern, Currier says that Palmetto State Armory is one of the country's largest gun stores, and yet in 2023, Julian Wilson told the newspaper that only 3% of the country's guns come from Palmetto State Armory. So it appears as though they want us to believe that Palmetto State Armory is a little guy in the gun business, but if that's true, this next part is going to be mind-blowing for you. The weapon used in this week's New York City mass shooting was manufactured by Palmetto State Army. The weapon Alec Murdoch used to kill Maggie Murdoch, his wife, was manufactured by Palmetto State

Armory. Oh, and the weapon used in the alleged assassination attempt of presidential candidate Donald Trump in Pennsylvania last summer, manufactured by DPMS, which is owned by JJE Capital Holdings, Palmetto State Armory's parent company, which is, again, co-owned by Alan Wilson's brother, according to USA Today. So let me get this straight. The weapons allegedly used in the Murdoch murders, the NYC mass shooting, and Trump's assassination attempt, three of the most historically significant and unique crimes in the last five years,

all have direct ties to the company owned by the brother of our attorney general and the son of our longtime congressmen. I don't want to get too far into the weeds here, and I'm trying my absolute best to not sound like a tinfoil hat girly right now. But this is strange, right? Or at least it's significant. If South Carolina was a place where people trusted the police and trusted the justice system to protect them, that would not be great for this gun manufacturer directly tied to Alan

Wilson's family. especially when one of the most consistent criticisms of Alan Wilson is how he is way too focused on amplifying nationally written talking points, all of which are based on this idea of us versus them when the us and them are the same. Americans, humans, people who care about this country. But that doesn't really sell guns, does it? It doesn't turn one and two gun household into a expensive arsenals. Having your attorney general telling you there's a whole lot to be scared of at all times is great advertising though. Anyway, I have been baffled by Allen's in action in the Scott Spivey case, particularly because he's running for the governor's seat in the next election,

and I would think he would want to send a strong message that South Carolina is not a place where citizens can chase other citizens for the majority of 10 miles before shooting them to death and not only get away with it, but to be actively protected by the police from prosecution. If there's a fine line to cross, it would be this one here. Because it doesn't matter what your personal philosophy on gun marketing and manufacturing is. No one is safe in a state where a person can kill you and claim self-defense just because they say so. So maybe safety was never a part of Alan Wilson's goal as a politician. What if his goal is to simply protect the status quo

that has made his family rich and powerful for decades? Since you can't rely on the ineffective and corrupt police, you have to protect yourself with multiple guns made by Alan's Brothers Company. Or, maybe, just maybe, Alan Wilson will prove me wrong and hold a press conference tomorrow to announce that a special prosecutor has been appointed in the spivey case. I can only hope. In the last two episodes, we dove into recordings of Assistant Attorney General Heather Weiss's mind-blowing explanation as to why she wasn't going to prosecute Weldon or Bradley.

Since airing those episodes, we have seen hundreds of messages and posts from other listeners, who were equally as blown away by Heather's absurd and legally incorrect explanation that could have cost her her job if she had a boss who actually cared about public safety. Keep all of that in mind about Alan Wilson's intentions as we play part three of this meeting today. Before we share the next part from the Spivey family's April 2024th meeting, with South Carolina Attorney General's Office prosecutor, Heather Weiss. Let's do a quick recap, a little reintroduction to the outrage we all felt two weeks ago. So this meeting was set up so that the prosecutor, again, Heather Weiss,

could explain to the Spivey family why it was that she had decided not to charge Weldon Boyd and Bradley Williams in the September 2023 shooting of 33-year-old Scott Spivey. And there were so many problems with this meeting and the things that Heather said during it. So we're going to do this in bullet points. Starting with bullet point number one, Heather opened the meeting this way. So first of all, I'll say I'm sorry for your loss. There's nothing that I can say that's going to make that go away. And what I'm talking about is something that happened in a very short period of time in somebody's life. And so I'm not, my explanation is not about, it's not speaking to Scott as the person that y'all knew.

My job is to review the case as far as the law and apply the law to Vax and see what there is, what we do that. So before I get started, I just don't want to say that, then, you know, I don't know Scott. I don't know Boy, Paul, and Boy, and I don't know Mr. William, I don't, I don't know anybody. in this. For me, this is a case that I'm reviewing the facts as they were investigated as the 911 one calls reveal pictures and statements. So that's what I'm looking at. David, will you play that last part again? This is a case that I'm reviewing the facts as they were investigated. Yep. The facts as they were investigated.

Interesting phrasing of that, right? Not the facts of the case, but the facts as they were investigated, which sounds a little like saying the facts that were curated by law enforcement to protect Weldon and his friend from criminal consequence. We now know how heavy Orie County police had their finger on the scale in this investigation, and this is something that was knowable at that time too, not only because Heather had the same case file that we've been sharing with you for the past few months, she is also the prosecutor in Alan Wilson's office who handles law enforcement

issues. She was also the prosecutor back in 2020 in one of the most disturbing corruption scandals involving ORI County police officers. We'll talk about that scandal and others later. The most important point here is this. Heather was asked to review the Spivey shooting investigation solely because both the district attorney in Ori County, 15th Circuit Solicitor Jimmy Richardson, and the Ori County Police Department acknowledged their own potential biases. They needed the AG's office to help them preserve public trust in them because Weldon Boyd, the Big Dum Dum, went on Facebook and broadcasted his deep gratitude to both Jimmy and the police for their good work and assistance in this incident that

he was involved in. More on this after a quick break. Hurry! What is the rush? They're only open until September. What? LaGuans. You said why we're in Coburg Beach?

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It's the best chicken sandwich in the world. All right, yeah, that does sound pretty good. You're damn right! This is a true story. It happened right here in my town. One night, 17 kids woke up, got out of bed, walked into the dark, and they never came back. I'm the director of Barbarian.

A lot of people die in a lot of weird ways. We're not going to find it in the news, because the police covered everything all up. On August days. This is where the story really starts. Weapons. See, the thing is with Heather Weiss. She didn't just rely on the facts as they were investigated.

She did her own work on the case. As evidenced in this letter, she wrote to Sled Agent Nathan Poston on April 3rd, 24, 15 days before she met with the Spivey family. David. Dear Special Agent Nathan Poston, after careful review of your investigation regarding the above-referenced matter, we have concluded that there is insufficient evidence to merit criminal prosecution. I am therefore closing our file and will not maintain. any record of investigatory activity associated with this case.

Yes, such a careful review. As we showed y'all in the last episode, Heather appeared to not only be barely and vaguely aware of the facts of Scott's shooting, and especially who saw what and when, she also didn't appear to be all that up to date on the facts as they were investigated, because she was still citing Witness No. 1's account of Scott shooting. her car as part of her reasoning for not charging Weldon and Bradley. As we told you all a month ago, even the Ory County Police Department had told that witness, a young woman who goes by Blaze Adrian on Facebook, that this didn't happen. She insisted, though, that she was a casualty of Scott's, that one of his bullets from Scott shooting out Weldon's truck window, which also never happened,

had hit her. But as multiple police determined, with her right there, her car was never hit by a bullet, and it defies reasoning, once you look at the positioning of where she said she was at that time, that anything would hit her at all. Blaise knew all this, but it wasn't interesting or dramatic enough, so she continued to tell the I almost died story after the shooting, despite knowing the truth. That's not all. Heather Weiss continued to refer to there being multiple Highway 9 witnesses who had seen Scott allegedly point his gun, when sure, there were technically multiple witnesses who called police on Scott. But the beginning and end of that list are the two shooters and Blaze. The girl who not only waited four miles to call 911 after Scott

allegedly pointed his gun at her, but also appears to have made an effort to stay pace with Scott, the alleged gun pointer during that time. When Scott's mother asked Heather to cite what other witnesses called 911 to report Scott, other than Blaze, Heather, said this. I can get the report or anybody else who's done to speak in that. And I don't have transcripts at them because I listen to them. You know, I listen to them and then I read statements. So that's that's the, that's the only one that we recall. And they're all the witness statements.

Right. In other words, at this meeting, to explain to this Bivey family while she had chosen to not prosecute Weldon and Bradley based on insufficient evidence, Heather didn't know. And she didn't know because she didn't carefully review the case. And not for nothing, it's hard to know something that doesn't exist. It's hard to know there were more callers than just Weldon and Blaze Adrian because there weren't. It was just them. But let's talk about the more curious phrase in Heather Weiss's letter. I am therefore closing our file and will not maintain any record of investigatory activity associated with this case, which is weird.

Because that sounds like I'm destroying the evidence and, hey, maybe Sled told her they didn't want the case file back, which would be odd. Or maybe that's a signal to them that they're the record custodian and therefore will have to answer any Freedom of Information Act requests that come in. But that is a really messed up way to write that, especially for a lawyer who one would think value specificity. And like, why not keep the record of the investigatory activity? I can think of only one reason. Because from day one of Scott's shooting, the Ori County Police Department wasn't just working to help keep Weldon and Bradley from getting charged, but also working to derail any civil claims from Scott's family. You can hear it in the phone calls. In case they sue, in case they file a lawsuit,

we don't want them to think we did you any favors. What's something that would be helpful in a civil case. Records of investigatory activity associated with a case, especially the records connected to prosecutor Heather Weiss's quote, careful and allegedly independent review of the facts as they were investigated before she decided there was insufficient evidence to charge Weldon and Bradley, which brings me to recap bullet point number two. Heather Weiss said it would be unethical for her to charge Weldon and Bradley because she didn't think she had evidence that would show that this wasn't self-defense, which is wild because we've had a whole lot of episodes talking about that very same evidence with thousands of listeners expressing their disbelief

over how law enforcement and prosecution handled this case and how Weldon and Bradley weren't charged. Then there was the Wall Street Journal, which published a three-part series with thousands of people commenting how messed up this case is. And then there's Ori County Police, public information officer Michaela Moscoff, who can't post a single piece of her puffery about the so-called daily heroics of this very corrupt police department without a litany of extremely hilarious comments from the public, many of whom are likely in the Ori County jury pool, roasting them for not charging Weldon and Bradley that night. That's a pretty good indication that a skilled and determined prosecutor could have used the same evidence we've all been looking at to get

a conviction. Recap bullet point number three. Heather Weiss did the dirty work for Weldon and Bradley's defense teams, by finding a way to apply the antiquated and very problematic citizens' arrest law to their case and using that as an excuse not to charge them, which is gross because at no point whatsoever did Weldon or Bradley, or their attorney at the time, claim that they did this with the intent of detaining Scott. In our opinions, the evidence shows pretty freaking clearly that Weldon wanted a fight that evening. He was having a very bad day because of his fragile emotions and his apparent addiction to manufacturing drama when it comes to the mother of his then-unborn son. And again, in our opinions, Weldon had been begging the universe

to give him a situation like this where someone would give him an opening one day by being the proverbial bad guy with a gun so that Weldon could finally use his arsenal of toys to take him down and be declared the number one good boy with a gun. Look at me, Mama. Look, I killed him. Wait, sorry. I'm really terrible at oppressions. Let's just hear it from the man himself. Hey, Mama, I decided to shoot. I just killed somebody. Mama, I killed him. Okay. Bye. Okay. Last recap bullet point. Number four, Heather maintained that Weldon and Bradley were justified in killing Scott on Camp Swamp Road because Scott had walked to the back of his truck

and, quote, stood in front of Weldon's truck and aimed the gun at Wellden. Weldon and Bradley. So, in that isolated moment, they had a right to shoot back. What did she base this scenario on? Why, the facts as they were investigated, the slanted reports that were put together by law enforcement officers, sled agent Nathan Poston, and Ory County Police Detective Alan Jones, aka one of the right people, Weldon's friend, Deputy Chief Brandon Strickland, sent to the scene that night. And the reason I know Heather relied on those reports is because if she had taken a

single afternoon to look through the evidence herself, she would have seen how that account is Weldon's account and does not match the account of the eyewitnesses who saw Scott on Camp Swamp Road that day. He did not go to the back of his truck. There is no evidence of him pointing the gun at Weldon until Weldon started shooting, and there is no evidence that Scott shot at Weldon and Bradley first. In fact, Heather could have taken the recording of the 911 calls, both the police department's version and Weldon's recording, which she had at that time, and asked an expert to take a listen and determine where the first shot came from. Heather didn't do that at all. Now let's talk about what happened during the rest of this joke of a meeting led by Heather Wise in April 2024.

Let's start with when a member of the Spivey family, who has experience in law enforcement, asked Heather Wise to clarify why she didn't consider Scott to have been standing his ground on Camp Swamp Road when Scott had disengaged, assuming he was the initial aggressor because no one but Scott well did, and Bradley knew who started this and why. If Scott would have stopped on Highway 9 and brought him in, I'm with you 3,000%. I understand that. But when he disengages and attempts to flee, and then I chase him for 10 miles. They engaged him again.

And I chased him for 10 miles. Stay on your ground. It's hard to be applicable. And I had to break the law to arrive at that point in time. I broke the law to get there. under self-defense and everything. That's almost like saying I go to a drug deal and I'm doing something illegal when you pull a gun.

I've got the right to kill it. Well, hear me out. I know it's a little exaggerated. But ultimately, under the citizen's arrest law, I'm supposed to advise you about what I'm doing. I can't, because it's like me with a cop. If I, you know this, if I pull my gun, I am a cop, and I'm going to arrest her,

and she sees me with a gun, but she doesn't know who I am. She doesn't know my tent. I'm not marked. And she shoots and kills me. Touchdown. She's good. because she doesn't know what I am based off that last witness now and I'm assuming at least what I heard from the witness on the 911 one that last witness sits there and says he got

out of his truck said why are you following me stop following me holding the gun I want I don't know if he said down at his side his hands and specifically stated the slide was locked back now that makes sense to me given that he never carried around in the chamber just didn't do it so if I wanted to be ready to do business I would have locked the slide back so all I to do his hit his side religion. That being said, that man specifically said they were pointing guns at him before he was pointing guns at them. So the threats there doesn't know what their intention is.

They're not making their attention known. And I agree with what you're saying to an extent, but I just don't see, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the standing ground aspect of it as far as with the checks. The checks, that's not my understanding or what, because if that's, that's not my understanding or what, Because if that's the case, man, we got problems because literally, I know a bunch of people literally, one of these gentlemen comes by and they get mad. We have a temper tantrum something going on. They showed me a gun. You've just given me the license to chase them down and kill them.

I mean, even if they're trying to get away, they're trying to save their own life. And I don't think that that's exactly what's staying in your ground. Because if you, with the statute, it's the same thing the court ruled, no fault. Same thing to self-defense. No fault, reasonable person of prudent, you know, courage, all that good stuff. It has to be a position where you felt like your life was in danger, great bodily injury. And then the fourth thing, for self-defense, there has to have been no way to avoid it to confrontation. The only thing is removed.

Exactly. They removed that for standing the ground. But it doesn't mean chase it down. I just don't, I don't, I'm not seeing, and there's even Supreme Court ruling in the case law where you have. a situation where two gentlemen got into an altercation similar to what this would have been where one gentleman showed him a gun the gentleman went and got his gun the gentleman proceeded to chase him the court ruled that after they got down the road once he made it known he didn't want any more part of the fight the fight was over and he continued to chase him and they ended up

charged with the murk that's kind of where I'm having some confusion but I'm really having a hard time latching on to it's you got two things either it's unlawful or law. So either you're saying that they had a right to kill him, but they didn't have right to kill him. And it's one or the other so it's either a lawful killing or it's a non-lawful killing. So are we saying it's a lawful killing? Yes. Okay. Let's be clear on what Heather was saying yes to here. She is saying that in the state of South Carolina, to claim a killing was done in self-defense, all you have to do is say that the dead man started a fight with you in one location, let's say a highway, and even though that man tried to drive away from you, you can decide to speed on the highway to catch up with him and intimidate him for at least six miles to the point that he's break-checking you several times to get you off his tail. And you continue to follow him when he exits the highway and it's okay for you to kill him so long as when the man tries to verbally resolve the situation by getting out of his truck and telling you to stop.

Stop following him with his gun in his hand for protection because who are these maniacs riding his tail for six miles? Maniacs who maybe showed their guns to the man first. Heather Weiss is saying that that's fine. Totally legal. Go ahead and escalate your road rage and follow it through. As long as you scare the heck out of someone that they feel they need to have their gun out while telling you to leave them alone, you're golden. Shoot away.

Who cares about the credibility of the shooters? who cares about the consistency of the statements, who cares about the context, so long as you say it happened this way and that five other witnesses who didn't see the whole thing agree with you. Heather Weiss is good with that. Here's what Scott's mother said to Heather next. Note the aggression coming from Heather's initial response to her. Do you know why he turned on counsel? No, ma'am to you? Yes, that's the way we go home.

That's the way when we leave Highway 9, we take the Camp Swamp Road and we go through North Carolina to get home, which is about six and a half, seven miles from there. We own property, we own a farm on that road. And we own property. It's probably, what, a mile away? So when he left number nine, that was his way home. That's the reason he took that exit to leave. So, I guess Heather's careful review of the case before she decided there was insufficient evidence to prosecute Weldon and Bradley did not include knowing why Scott had pulled off onto Camp Swamp Road. Seems like something you would want to know when building your case

to prove that Scott was the aggressor, where he was going, what he was trying to do. Was he luring Weldon and Bradley to this spot? I'm obviously zero percent surprised that Heather didn't know that Scott was on his way home, that he not only had a right to be on Camp Swamp Road, he, unlike Weldon, had a legitimate reason to be there. And what was Weldon's reason again? Huh. If Heather were here, I'd ask her, because I'm sure she would have immediately know the answer,

an answer that depends on who Weldon is talking to at the time and what's story he wants to tell. To witnesses four and five and to police at the scene and to his granny and to his friends on the phone in the days after. Weldon's reason for following Scott wasn't that he was following Scott. It was that he had to stop and innocently make sure all furniture on his trailer was still securely strapped down after Scott quote-unquote ran him off the road. Also known as when Scott break-checked Weldon for following him too closely behind and Weldon was clearly driving too fast to safely stop without hitting Scott and therefore had to swerve. Weldon claimed that he was ambushed when he was pulled over and he said Scott looked

him dead in his eyes before pointing his gun at him. To the 911 dispatcher, Weldon said he was taking that turn so that he could follow Scott, meaning so he could further antagonize him, as evidenced by Weldon saying there was about to be a shootout and warning the dispatcher that he was going to have to put Scott down if he pointed the gun at him during the extended chase. We have her guns out, Weldon said to the dispatcher. Not only that, Weldon was already anticipating a scenario where police would need to know that he, the military veteran, was the good guy with a gun. He was already projecting to the dispatcher that this chase was going to end with police arriving at a chaotic scene.

He just swirved at me. I need a trooper fast. He may shoot at the cop too, man. Tell the cops, we're in a white ram pickup truck, and we are armed. I'm military, so it ain't us. Don't shoot us. I mean, listen to that engine speed up and roar. I know we keep pointing this out, but Weldon had to drive really fast.

to keep following the imminent threat to his life. By the way, every time I hear Weldon say, he just swerved at me. Wait, wait, okay. Play it again, David, so they can hear what I'm hearing. He just swerved at me. I don't know about you,

but I immediately picture Scott not swerving at Weldon. Do you hear that too? It just, I don't know if it's a tone of Weldon's voice or what, but it screams, I'm taking every little thing I can and trying to make it into something bigger and more dangerous. A few fun facts I want to remind you of here. The last

photo Bradley had taken of Scott was about two minutes before Weldon said, he just swerved at me. Scott was pictured way ahead of Weldon's truck at the time. A minute before Weldon said that, he was caught on surveillance video on Highway 9 following Scott in a small pack of

cars. And about 30 seconds before Weldon said, he just swerved at me, Bradley. So, deeply worried about this life and death situation that Weldon was depicting to the 911 dispatcher, had just finished paying his cell phone bill over the phone. Hold up. Okay, I know why this bothers me. This call Weldon had with a friend just afternoon the day after Weldon and Bradley killed Scott. Oh, and just a short time after Weldon and Bradley bought new pistols at Palmetto State Armory. You know, South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson's family business and the provider

of the guns used during the alleged assassination attempt against Donald Trump last summer, the mass shooting in New York City this past week, and the weapon Elyke Murdoch used to kill Maggie. The whole thing, the entire thing, is on, is recorded through 911 because I wanted it to be recorded. So I called, and I was telling him step by step, like, he's going here, he's doing this, he's doing that, and then he turned on that road, and I told him, said, look, I'm going to follow this guy because he's going to kill somebody and I was giving them updates where he was going. But when I turned on that road after him, he was parked in the road, door swung open, he got out and just started shooting.

Just tried to kill me. I mean, straight up. First, Weldon did not say to the dispatcher, look, I'm going to have to follow this guy because he's going to kill somebody. He said, I'm going to follow this guy and I'm going to have to put him down if he gets angry at me, i.e. points the gun. And Scott didn't, quote, just start shooting at Weldon, nor did he try to kill Weldon, at least not at first. At most, Scott shot one time when he was outside of his vehicle. The evidence seems

to point to Scott immediately jumping into the cab of his truck and getting shot to death there while maybe trying to return fire. Man, Heather Weiss, I really wish you had paid more attention to the evidence, girl. Or rather, you're going to wish you had. Because I do think we're all in a journey here to an ugly truth about how you and your sparkly boss, Alan Wilson, do business over there at the AG's office where public corruption cases seem to go to die. More on that in a future episode. Anyway, second, Weldon, by his own admission, clearly knew how important that recorded 911 call was going to be for him. And in my opinion, that's because he was, pardon the pun, gunning for a showdown, and already preparing his criminal accountability escape route. Which

brings us to this part of the meeting when the Spivey family asked Heather Weiss about Weldon's electronics. So, in addition to not reading Weldon and Bradley their Miranda rights immediately at the scene and not separating Weldon and Bradley from two of the witnesses for more than an hour and half, the Orange County Police also didn't seize Weldon's and Bradley's phones that night, nor did they seek a warrant to search them, nor did they seek a warrant to search the tablet that Weldon had curiously mounted to his dashboard. They also didn't do what I will respectfully and proudly call GirlMath to find out the answer to this equation. What does Weldon's 702 horsepower RAM TRX, $100,000 pickup truck?

Plus, the contents found in Weldon's Big Boy Bugout bag, which includes a camouflage helmet, camouflage binoculars, thermal imaging monocular, a gas mask, flash bangs, tear gas grenade, a fat stack of cash, US dollars, a tourniquet, the field medical kit for war wounds with quick clot and chest seal in it, all in case his fantasy of fighting off an insurgency of liberals? I'm not sure if that's his biggest fear, but maybe, for some reason. Divided by the square root of U.S. flag sticker on sunroof, plus his giant tattoo of an assault rifle on his forearm, plus his phone call recording app, an archive of recorded calls, minus Veterans License Play because thank you for your service,

multiplied by a Microsoft-based Samsung tablet mounted to Weldon's dashboard with Adele on the playlist, equals, this guy seems like the sort of fella who regularly uses that tablet as a dashboard camera. And we'll be right back. Now, back to the meeting with Heather Weiss. Here, Scott's family ask about the phones and the tablet. Again, the electronics were not collected as evidence. Remember this call between Weldon and Ory County Police Chief Brandon Strickland on September 13, 23, just four days after the shooting, and right after Weldon posted on Facebook,

his beautiful thank you, note to the police and his solicitor Jimmy Richardson for their help in this tragically heroic situation of his. Remember that post that led to Heather Weiss's involvement in this case? For context, Alan is the detective, aka one of the right people, that Brandon sent to the scene for Weldon. Ken is Weldon's attorney, Ken Moss. Hey, you got a second. So, I guess they're mad at Allen for not seeing our phones. So now Alan's telling Ken that his superiors want a data dump on both of our phones. I mean, because we're going to have to fight. I can't give them a data dump.

I mean, what I look at on the Internet, my banking information, my notes that have my cash that I don't report, a data dump's too severe, don't you think? Yeah, well, I'm trying to put myself, not put myself in a weird situation because of the position I'm in. I would talk to the attorney on that, making a decision based that way, you know what I mean? Okay, should I not have called you? Yeah, don't put me in that position to answer that question. Okay, all right, sorry. I'm just trying to... No, you're good.

I just want this shit over with. So, okay, all right, well... And I'm not there and plugged in, so I don't know what the any of it. I've tried to stay out of it just because of our friendship. So I haven't been asking or doing anything like that, so nobody can't come back and say nothing. No, I get it. I'll leave you alone. I'm sorry. No, you good. No, don't let me alone. I'm still here for you.

I just got to be careful. Yeah. It's just, I guess they, yeah, I got you. I understand. Sorry. All right. I appreciate it. Yeah, man. Bye. L-O-L. Don't put me in this position, but I'll still help you. I just have to be careful. The same day of his call is when Weldon told Bradley to delete their Facebook

conversations. Anyway, did Weldon and Bradley have to turn in their phones to the police? Nope, they sure didn't. They turned them into attorney Ken Moss who kept them for two months. It's not clear what happened with the tablet between when police had it at the impound lot and Weldon got his truck back from them and when Weldon handed it over to sled along with the phones in November 2023. But here's what we do know and what Heather would have seen during her careful review. The tablet appears to have been wiped clean. There's nothing on it. And there are records in the data dump of the phone, at least, which was not a thorough data dump despite what you're about to hear, that shows some activity on Weldon's phone, which includes the word

delete, while the phone was still allegedly in his lawyer's possession in November 2023. I'm not a phone data expert here, but I'm sure SLED will be happy to revisit that document for further insight if there's any to be gained. So I think the answer about why the phones would be important to have is contained in all the reporting we've been able to do over the past few months on this case. There was a question whether Weldon knew Scott Spivey. That had to be investigated. The phones show that Bradley was so not worried about Scott Spivey as a threat that he was paying a bill while Weldon was on the phone with 911. We could clearly hear Bradley scold Weldon after the shooting stopped about why couldn't Weldon have left Scott alone?

And the phones have GPS data on them that shows some important coordinates that contradict Blaz's eyewitness account and Weldon's version of the truth. But the biggest question out there remains unanswered. And that's did Weldon have a video of him shooting Scott? Here's the Spivey family trying to get that answer. And here's how Heather Weiss and Sled responded to them. We want to know, you know, why? was there a stipulation they got to keep their phones why did we have to

point out that there was a tablet that probably was supporting a video and we're curious did you ever see the idea from the table have any of the shooting or the whole proceed the whole proceed there was no those phones were collected based upon a consent to search I could look up the exact date Why were they not collected that nine and put into a secure thing? Because it was a killing, they should be, yes. Because there has to be probable cause to seize a knife. Okay.

You have to have, am I correct? You have to have a reason to take something from somebody because until you showed me that something that you all was used in a criminal act, I do not have a right to take that from your property. So phones were not seized. They were gathered by us pursuant to a consent to search. So they consented to have their phone and to have a search. Those things were consented or searched by the crowd's lab. And there was no video recover from any of those devices that were photographs.

which they had already provided to law enforcement right but here's where our sticking point is we know that he always videotaped almost everything we know that there was Weldon Boy we all called on let me finish him we've looked at pictures and it appears that one of the pictures might have been a frame from a video and we're wondering how was that investment And I think I asked you that about the metadata from the pictures where he was being interested. I spoke to the analyst that lab and he said there is no indication that those are screenshots from any sort of video and there is no video on any of those devices. Nothing was covered from any deleted files and they did the most extensive searches that they can.

Okay. So they did a physical, yeah, they did a physical orological act? a physical or a logical acquisition because there's a difference they're illogical they're not going to get the deleted stuff usually my understanding of it I asked him for the most but some of the phones want to allow for usually they do both well some of them allow for and that's possible and but then you end up having to do chip off where you have to send it to the FBI because I mean I spent time up in Quantico and with the Secret Service doing what I asked for was

the most extensive search that could be performed that obviously you can't do more than what you can do. Yeah, what you've got is for the most extensive that they could do and the results from that most extensive search that they could do was that there was no video recovered from any present files, deleted files, etc. But you got the, you got the report, right? Yeah, it's up to the case file. And it's got like the, you saw GPS board and you saw all that stuff in there, right?

There's a bunch of stuff there. Okay, and the only reason I'm asking is because there's the differences with the, and I know you don't know this but there's differences with the resolutions and things how you tell if somebody does screenshots from videos and things like that because the aspect ratio is different right also if you're looking at it if it's taken from your phone you should have metadata in there giving GPS coordinates the actual model of the phone all the all of that data should be there should also be embedded stuff into the actual not going in getting too big of a lesson but in the actual point to

verify the authenticity of the data and everything and if that stuff is there then it's the original day I'll interject a little bit since you left they have they have taken on photo and video analysis okay now and whichever it is and I get them backwards so I'll tell you during this whole process there's a search that you can do remotely that they can bring devices and there's a search that has to be done in the lab it could take up for my understanding for talking to the there it could take days yes so they hook it on the device and let it sit. It might take four hours. He said it might take two days depending on the

information in the device. That was the search that we did. Okay. And I'm going to ask a dub question because I don't know a lot about technology. So it was done from the physical device. Did it go to the cloud to me? They searched the cloud? I mean, he's saying they did an extensive if it was deleted. And if they did what, if they did a physical acquisition, they'd have got out of the files. If it was on that device unless they got an application and actually took the time to actually overwrite it, they should have been able to find it. But I mean, it's a technology. If I don't want you to find something, you won't find it. And another question I had is, is there absolute knowledge that those were actually

the phones that left and the tablet that left out of that truck since it was weeks before it actually came back. Did y'all take, were the serial numbers taken at the time that they left your offices? And I appreciate where you're going with it. I just want to say, we're here to discuss the criminal decision not to prosecute. I know y'all have an attorney because I've gotten, we've gotten FOIA requests at such. And so the information you're asking about would go towards your civil case. And I don't want to be commenting on that. I don't want to put any of them in a position and commenting on that because you're represented and that we're not supposed to be communicating

with representative parties. I'm here to explain my decision from the criminal and I'm not trying to be rude and cut you off. It's just you're represented and we could all get in ethical trouble for talking to you about something beyond. So when it comes down to it, you know, when you look at that, you asked about, you know,

how did he know, Not ethical trouble. So Heather derailed the conversation because she said the situation with the phones and the tablet were part of the civil cases and not part of the criminal investigation. And the law enforcement officer who piped up to explain that there wasn't probable cause to take the phones and the tablet that night is wrong. He is completely wrong. How do I know he's wrong beyond knowing the law?

Because when Slegg conducted their own investigation of the shooting, they seized phones and the tablet. And because of that conversation, Weldon had with Brandon Strickland on September 13th, 2023. They knew they should have done it, and they didn't do it because it was Weldon, and taking the phones and tablet weren't necessary. Because they already decided from the moment Weldon made that first phone call from the scene to Brandon Strickland that Weldon was justified and killing Scott. Cut and dried, remember? So, are the Spivey's right to believe that Weldon had video of the shooting and maybe even the pursuit on Highway 9? More on that, after a quick break, we'll be right back.

So let's look at what's known here. Bradley stopped taking pictures of Scott's truck around the same time Weldon got on the phone with 911. And really, Bradley didn't take that many photos when you can consider the severity of the situation Weldon was describing to 911. And it's sort of hard to believe that no video exists, that they didn't also take video at that time. I mean, in this day and age, really? Especially when you consider these things. One, Weldon was recording his personal phone calls for a long while. This indicates that he likes receipts.

Two, here's how I know he likes receipts. In 2021, the Myrtle Beach Sun News reported that Weldon secretly recorded North Myrtle Beach City employees and then used the recording to prove that they had given him permission to have a bootleg St. Patrick's Day parade in place of the city's canceled parade and festival, which they were canceled due to the pandemic, which don't get Walden Bowers started on the pandemic. Anyway, his recording did not prove that he had permission. to hold a parade, by the way. The recording did prove that he had permission to hold a pub crawl on Main Street, and it proved that he had a discussion with those employees about what golf carts were allowed to do on that road. See what he did there? His receipts are so shifty. Three, right before hugging up with Bradley the afternoon of the shooting, Weldon, while driving, saw a dead motorcyclist

in a person's yard right after the man crashed. Weldon took pictures of his dead body. That's right. On September 9th, 23, Weldon Boyd took pictures of two different dead bodies just hours apart. So he likes to document. Four, Weldon maintains he doesn't use Bluetooth, and that's why he has the tablet mounted to the dashboard to play music and audiobooks. On June 12, 2024, he posted a photo of his dashboard setup and the comment, Back in My Beast. On the screen of his tablet was a YouTube video about South Carolina secession from the union. This is important because what he's saying is that his phone isn't coming through the truck speakers, meaning the phone was not in hands-free mode because five. And this is the big one. In Ori County Police video of Weldon's

interview at the precinct, the night of Scott shooting, Weldon demonstrated how he was holding his cell phone between his shoulder and his ear while on the phone with 911 and while also trying to shift his truck into reverse. He actually used his phone posturing as the excuse for why he couldn't reverse when Bradley was telling him to back up. Now, as Weldon would later say to his family, this occurred when Scott looked him dead in his eyes before taking aim at Weldon from 30 yards away. Now, in our opinions, Weldon didn't try to shift that car in reverse, and we do not believe that he had his phone position like that either. We think it's more likely the phone was on speaker and either on the dashboard or the console or even tucked behind the steering wheel.

Because when witness number two passed Weldon right after passing Scott, who witnessed number two, said did not have his gun aimed at that point. Witness number two saw Weldon with his pistol aimed at Scott and using the dashboard to steady his shot and then Weldon unloaded his mag. So where was the phone? And we know from Weldon's own admission to the dispatcher before turning onto Camp Swamp Road that he and Bradley had already drawn their weapons, though Weldon would later tell police and maintain that he didn't pull his weapon until he saw Scott aim at them on Camp Swamp Road, which is a very hilarious lie when you consider the idea of Weldon turning down that road and telling the dispatcher that there was about to be a shootout and that they

had taken their weapons out. So I guess in that story, he would have put them back at reach. I don't know. So what was Weldon going to use in this imagined shootout? Finger guns? All of that was just to bring you here to this point that Weldon probably wouldn't have been able to video what was going on on his phone, right? He was on the phone with 911. But he could use his tablet. And the truth is, according to Weldon's frequent documenting of his life on Facebook, there's just so much evidence of him recording incidents that happen on the road, both through photo and video. And Weldon does not hesitate to take a video while driving, including videos of himself and his dog on the road. He is a documenter, and he is very aware of how he plans to use the things he documents. Now, all of that

is anecdotal evidence, but we don't have to rely on that because we have actual evidence that video existed from Scott's shooting. Here's Weldon on the phone with his mother about 48 hours after the shooting. In this part of the conversation, he is telling his mother that if there's any evidence that his ex-fiancee knew Scott Spivey in any way that he is in big trouble. Listen to how his mother responds to that. If there is a relationship of any level, even just Facebook messages or Instagram messages between these two, we got big problems.

Even though I had no idea about it, but we got big fucking problems. Because then it doesn't matter what, it doesn't matter anymore. Now that family can say this was over a girl. Oh my gosh. Well, but the video shows something different. I haven't seen the video.

And you're on the phone with 9-1-1-0-0-da. Yeah, but I haven't seen the video. And does the video show him aiming at us in firing? Or did it start too late? Does the video show him aiming at us and firing or did it start too late? Remember, Weldon doesn't have his tablet. It's at the Ory County Police Impound lot.

So it makes sense that he wouldn't have seen it. The video, though. The is a definite article. The refers to something specific. And whatever this video is, Weldon doesn't know whether it captured Scott aiming and firing at them. And this is Weldon. So in our opinions, when we hear him say, or did it start too late, we believe he's

already telling on himself. Because if the video doesn't corroborate his story, then maybe there's already a plan forming in his head to make it start too late to capture it. Or maybe there's a plan to delete it altogether. And all of that's allegedly, obviously. We don't know what was going through Weldon's mind. Again, this is a call that was available to Ori County Detective Alan Jones and his cracker team, sled agent Nathan Poston, and prosecutor Heather Weiss. But real quick, and we'll share more of these calls with you in the future, but even in the ones we've shared already, I think it's pretty clear how much Weldon is stressing in the days after the shooting, which is very natural.

But is it natural when you have an entire fleet of good old boys putting their bodies between yours and the cold hard grip of criminal consequence? Could that video sitting in his truck at a police impound lot have been causing him some extra anxiety? Now, before you say, okay, that's great, but maybe Weldon was wrong. Maybe the video actually didn't capture anything. David, can you read those texts between Weldon and the mother of his son from a few weeks before this meeting Heather Weiss had with the Spivey family? Weldon. I just am stressed over everything as a whole. The shooting included.

Just ready for all this to be behind me. former fiance. Did something else happen with it? Weldon. No, SLED is done and HCPD is done, both firmly support that it was self-defense. They will be talking to the Attorney General in the next two weeks for him to rule on it, then make a public statement. My concern is Scott's family. They refuse to accept the facts. Scott was piss drunk. Was he, though? The boardwalk Billy's footage doesn't seem to support that. And as Jennifer Spivey Folly, a biology teacher, has pointed out, Scott's body was left in the hot muggy summer weather for several hours,

and his body sat for days before a blood sample was actually taken. Meaning, whatever was in his system was perhaps further fermenting. Sorry, David. Keep going. Weldon, he had drugs in the car. Okay, stop. Debatable. The Spivey Family's attorney, Mark Tensley, has already indicated that there's evidence that could point to the drugs being planted by the police. But we'll get to that in another episode. I'm going to try to not interrupt again. David, go ahead. Weldon. He held multiple people at gunpoint. What? He did not. Are you kidding me with this? There is literally no evidence. that Scott held anyone at gunpoint.

Weldon is making up an entirely different story than what actually happened. Oh my gosh, this gets me so mad. And what? He is saying this because Blaze said that Scott pointed a gun at her on Highway 9. Blaze, who then waited four miles to call 911, who then kept pace with Scott.

I can't even. Ugh. Uh, Mandy, can I keep going? or... Sorry, David, yes. It's okay, sweet Pete. Take as much outrage time as you need. I got Luna and Joe here with me.

We're good. I never thought I would say this, but go back to being Weldon. I'm calm now. Weldon. He ran my vehicle off a highway, tried to wreck me, aimed his weapon at other cars after that,

that I have video of, then set up an ambush for me and tried to go. gun me down. But they say they are going to sue me because Scott didn't have to die. What? A joke. He started a gunfight against someone he was not capable of beating in a gunfight. And his family says, I'm the bad guy. It's a joke. Actually, the joke is that Alan Wilson and Heather Wise continue to stick their heads in the sand about this, because what was that? You have video?

Of what? Again, Weldon is telling on himself, where is that video that he speaks of? And did SLED actually check to see what might have been deleted from Weldon's phone and tablet? Also, I can't stress this enough. I think it's safe to say that this video existed, okay? I'm going to direct this at Heather Weiss, an H-CPD, and SLED, and Alan Wilson, and Governor Henry McMaster, who needs to get off his office.

sold rocking chair and appoint a special prosecutor to this case. If Weldon had a video showing that he killed Scott in self-defense, showing that Scott was, in fact, driving like a maniac in pointing the gun at people on Highway 9, then wouldn't he be playing that video on a loop at his restaurant and on his Facebook page? Wouldn't please have that video because it would not only exonerate their buddy Weldon, it would keep people from going through their dirty laundry. Like the Spivey's told Heather Weiss a year ago, it seems like a video did exist. And if it's gone, if it was deleted forever, erased from existence, then doesn't that say something to Heather? And to everyone? That there's only one reason a video like this wouldn't be in evidence,

because it shows the truth. And sorry, I can't let it. go. The ambush thing? Yes, David. Weldon was not ambushed. Scott was ambushed. And he tried to tell them to stop. And it's making me remember this part from Heather Weiss's meeting that I want to replay because it's really been bothering me. So the idea that the shooting car was in a public place where they had a right to be. There's no duty to retreat. You can't bring upon the harm yourself. You can't bring upon the harm yourself. In April 2024, Heather Weiss acted like her hands were tied,

and she couldn't possibly build a case that tore down any notion that Scott's killing was in self-defense. But Weldon brought the harm upon himself the second he decided to continue chasing Scott for at least six of those 10 miles. The initial adversarial moment had passed long ago way before Walden decided to turn down Camp Swamp Road. Your hands weren't tied, Heather, and you know it. But that's what Alan Wilson's office does best, right? Either your hands are tied or you're sitting on them. Alan Wilson's office sitting on their hands.

Now, what does that remind me of? Oh, right. Eddie Smith. Remember how quickly the Attorney General's office charged and indicted Curtis Eddie Smith and Elyke Murdoch's roadside shooting debacle back in 2021? Remember how they charged him with insurance fraud and conspiracy to commit insurance fraud when they had zero proof of Ehrlich Murdoch having such a policy? Nor was there any proof of any sort of deal between Eddie and Ehrlich about that alleged insurance policy. Remember how they charged Eddie with assault and battery for allegedly shooting Ehrlich Murdoch in the head when Elyke Murdoch himself showed up in court just a few days later, sporting a head full of hair that definitely did not look like it had just endured a bullet wound?

Remember how they charged Eddie with assisted suicide attempt for allegedly helping the king of all narcissists carry out a plan to kill himself so that his only remaining son Buster could collect a non-existent $10 million insurance policy. Remember how all of Eddie's affidavits were blanketed in statements made by Elyke Murdoch, essentially relying on the word of Elyke Murdoch the murderer and not much else. The Attorney General's office charged and indicted Eddie Smith four years ago for allegedly shooting Elyke Murdoch in the head based off of bad evidence. They have Ehrlich's word, which is worth less than nothing in the eyes of the law. They have evidence that a gun was fired when the two met on Old Salcahatchie Road that day,

and they have evidence that old Ehrlich got a scratch that he raised a fuss about and briefly went to the hospital for. But that's about it. Now tell me again. Was it ethical for Heather Weiss's office to charge Eddie Smith in 2021? Was it ethical for the AG's office to keep those charges pending as the value of Elyke Murdoch's word has tanked after multiple state and federal convictions that involved a serious pattern of him lying? Those charges against Eddie are still pending, by the way.

old Cousinetti is just stuck waiting. So I don't want to hear the Attorney General's office say another word about not having enough evidence to ethically charge someone in the case of Scott Spivey. There is a mountain of evidence to charge Bradley Williams and Weldon Boyd in the shooting death of Scott Spivey. There's a mountain of evidence that they can use to get a conviction. So, huh, let's think about that for a minute. How come the AG's offices standards for charging someone like Weldon Boyd seem exponentially higher than the standards are for charging someone like Eddie Smith or Spencer Roberts? Well, Eddie is not politically connected. He does not have friends in the State House to write proclamations announcing him as a hero. He does not

own a business where cops eat for free. He does not, to our knowledge, have cop buddies on speed dial for those times when he needs somewhat, quote-unquote, working in the shadows. Oh, also, we don't have phone calls from Eddie where he announced that he would be visiting Palmetto State Armory, co-owned by Attorney General Alan Wilson's brother, the day after Scott's killing to replace the gun that was used. There are two different. justice systems, even in the AG's own office. One for people like Eddie Smith and one for people like Weldon Boyd. And maybe, just maybe, wannabe Governor Alan Wilson wants to keep it that way. Stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight.

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